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Thursday, 25.04.2019.

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Unlike others, China doesn't pressure Serbia, says Vucic

It's important for Serbia to cooperate with China as it's a great power, which, unlike others, doesn't exert pressure on our country, says Aleksandar Vucic.

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Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are. (VIEW FROM UK, 29 April 2019 20:03)

You're having a problem with strength and tense. The US did not make them "what they are." This is more acccurate: the US "helped" make them what they "were." They did not teach them Islamist view of any type; and they only helped them be proficient resistance fighters back then.

With these adjustments, your entire line of reasoning should be changed.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! (Chi, 29 April 2019 15:23)

They are, dear, it's call USAID. The generous citizens fund relief efforts to the tune of $27 billion per year. I appreciate the sacrifice that American citizens make for the good of others.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.
(Logging in Kandahar Province, 28 April 2019 21:30)

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! I'll tell you why, because if there's isn't anything to gain financially or some type of military advantage or objective, then they stay away. With respect to Afghanisatan, if you aren't aware, they have tremendously high oil reserves still buried in that country, and this isn't including any of the other major natural resources. This is untapped and they're anticipated to start drilling soon if they can get a time out from the conflicts - of course, the US won't allow if they can help it.

So, in a nutshell, if there is oil or natural resources, the US is there... if friend, they buy it, or if foe, they try to take it!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you??? (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:17)

They were armed by the Yanks but they weren't created by them. They were an already-existing insurgency against Soviet occupation. If you think the insurgency was created out of nothing by the States, you are completely beyond help, completely clueless about how life functions.

Hezbollah is a complex political movement. "Squeezed" is relative to how much land they have right to. And there competing claims.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace. (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:00)

But we aren't talking about Russia as they are today but at the time of their evil invasion of a sovereign country. A godless corrupt egotistical state.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you???

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

The US government helped arm local Afghans to fight off the Soviets who wanted to crush and subject every nation around them. The Soviets...you know....the country that was at one time ruled by Stalin...the lovely man who killed millions of people!

Please do know something about history before making yourself the laughingstock of b92/eng.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time. (VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

But tell us this... what was the quality of life before the Americans arrived?

Taliban or American governance. Which is better?

If you say "the Taliban" then you only prove to us that you are a radical Islamist. If you admit that it was better with the Americans, then you disproved yourself. Good luck with those options!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Leonard....were you at the talks in China?? You seem to know the terms of what was agreed, every detail about every deal..... Oh how Croatia would love China to invest in that country...!!!
Amazing how you have negative views on everything Serbian. But you cant explain or justify Croat nazis murdering countless in the 1940s or operation storm....I've asked you many times but its silence from you...
And how big is Croatias debt these days...? Start worrying about the educated youth leaving Croatia, etc. instead of bad mouthing Serbia.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...

Lenard

pre 5 godina

He's found his tie.
(Andy UK, 25 April 2019 10:29) Well sure we Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cravat have every one by the neck. At least he looks semi presentable and that is hard for a Serb to be. China has Serbia in its pocket. Lends the money, charges interest. uses its own manufactured materials, hires Chinese to do the work etc. Serbia gets poor quality workmanship and decades of paying debts when it is finished paying the crumbling projects time to tear up the poor extravaganza.

Avni

pre 5 godina

Hojt Ji opet oštro o Srbiji: Nema i Rusija i EU, nerealne priče o ulasku u EU, foliranje https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=25&nav_category=11&nav_id=1534690

P.S. Serbia wants to join EU by praising communist China. Hmmm...

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. (VIEW FROM UK, 25 April 2019 16:50)

Thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot about the value of lumber even though a private US firm is subcontracting the logging industry. Now it all makes sense. The American government invaded Afghanistan for the timber. It really had nothing to do with freedom and justice! Those evil people!!!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Laughing all the way......dear me, you have no idea of how the world works. China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. Answer this; who has China invaded to "give them some democracy"...?? The American model of foreign policy is known as "The Death Economy". Read up and educate yourself.
And didnt Serbia allow tens of thousands of Chinese citizens to settle in Serbia not too long ago? Aint it nice when these people respect the country they are in and dont start a terrorist group for independence...?? Ring a bell Albos...???
As for your comment @blue, I can tell you with confidence that the people of Serbia do not want to join the EU. I have heard and read many opinion polls in Serbia and a big majority wants no part of being in the EU. Research it yourself if you dont believe me. Knowing that @blue, what is your point...!??

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

When Serbia can’t meet the repayments the CHINESE will be doing more than just pressuring Mr. Vucic....💣
(Laughing all the way to the bank, 25 April 2019 12:04)

@ laughingallthewaytothebankaj - Stupidest statement of the week! This would be true with ANY country that doesn't repay their loan...unless you're "kosovaaaaa", living of welfare! Welfare means "here's some money so you can eat because no one else will"!

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Serbia will never be part of the EU they decide who get to join that Union for example Croatia become part of the EU before Serbia and that country did not meet 50% of the EU Conditions Serbia should forget all of this EU membership nonsense and take it's seat with the EAEU which is on curse later this year. Also NATO is not a possible membership for Serbia that means Collective Security Treaty Organization

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Let's keep our ties with China strong as we all know, China is the future. It's not out there destroying country after country like we know who, it is in fact building and building. Smart move having China as a strong partner.

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

Vucic saying that the West are aggressive and Chinese diplomacy is respectful.
As long as we have China and Russia standing by our side, then Pristina can continue to cry.
See the difference is we stand side by side and not stand like Albos with U.S behind them. That is called cowardice.

Staff

pre 5 godina

If we like it or not. As long as China (and many others) says no to your province as a new country, people can scream as much as they like. Kosovo will belong to Serbia forever. Good work Vucic!

Staff

pre 5 godina

If we like it or not. As long as China (and many others) says no to your province as a new country, people can scream as much as they like. Kosovo will belong to Serbia forever. Good work Vucic!

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

Vucic saying that the West are aggressive and Chinese diplomacy is respectful.
As long as we have China and Russia standing by our side, then Pristina can continue to cry.
See the difference is we stand side by side and not stand like Albos with U.S behind them. That is called cowardice.

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Let's keep our ties with China strong as we all know, China is the future. It's not out there destroying country after country like we know who, it is in fact building and building. Smart move having China as a strong partner.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Laughing all the way......dear me, you have no idea of how the world works. China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. Answer this; who has China invaded to "give them some democracy"...?? The American model of foreign policy is known as "The Death Economy". Read up and educate yourself.
And didnt Serbia allow tens of thousands of Chinese citizens to settle in Serbia not too long ago? Aint it nice when these people respect the country they are in and dont start a terrorist group for independence...?? Ring a bell Albos...???
As for your comment @blue, I can tell you with confidence that the people of Serbia do not want to join the EU. I have heard and read many opinion polls in Serbia and a big majority wants no part of being in the EU. Research it yourself if you dont believe me. Knowing that @blue, what is your point...!??

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

When Serbia can’t meet the repayments the CHINESE will be doing more than just pressuring Mr. Vucic....💣
(Laughing all the way to the bank, 25 April 2019 12:04)

@ laughingallthewaytothebankaj - Stupidest statement of the week! This would be true with ANY country that doesn't repay their loan...unless you're "kosovaaaaa", living of welfare! Welfare means "here's some money so you can eat because no one else will"!

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Serbia will never be part of the EU they decide who get to join that Union for example Croatia become part of the EU before Serbia and that country did not meet 50% of the EU Conditions Serbia should forget all of this EU membership nonsense and take it's seat with the EAEU which is on curse later this year. Also NATO is not a possible membership for Serbia that means Collective Security Treaty Organization

Lenard

pre 5 godina

He's found his tie.
(Andy UK, 25 April 2019 10:29) Well sure we Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cravat have every one by the neck. At least he looks semi presentable and that is hard for a Serb to be. China has Serbia in its pocket. Lends the money, charges interest. uses its own manufactured materials, hires Chinese to do the work etc. Serbia gets poor quality workmanship and decades of paying debts when it is finished paying the crumbling projects time to tear up the poor extravaganza.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Leonard....were you at the talks in China?? You seem to know the terms of what was agreed, every detail about every deal..... Oh how Croatia would love China to invest in that country...!!!
Amazing how you have negative views on everything Serbian. But you cant explain or justify Croat nazis murdering countless in the 1940s or operation storm....I've asked you many times but its silence from you...
And how big is Croatias debt these days...? Start worrying about the educated youth leaving Croatia, etc. instead of bad mouthing Serbia.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. (VIEW FROM UK, 25 April 2019 16:50)

Thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot about the value of lumber even though a private US firm is subcontracting the logging industry. Now it all makes sense. The American government invaded Afghanistan for the timber. It really had nothing to do with freedom and justice! Those evil people!!!

Avni

pre 5 godina

Hojt Ji opet oštro o Srbiji: Nema i Rusija i EU, nerealne priče o ulasku u EU, foliranje https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=25&nav_category=11&nav_id=1534690

P.S. Serbia wants to join EU by praising communist China. Hmmm...

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time. (VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

But tell us this... what was the quality of life before the Americans arrived?

Taliban or American governance. Which is better?

If you say "the Taliban" then you only prove to us that you are a radical Islamist. If you admit that it was better with the Americans, then you disproved yourself. Good luck with those options!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

The US government helped arm local Afghans to fight off the Soviets who wanted to crush and subject every nation around them. The Soviets...you know....the country that was at one time ruled by Stalin...the lovely man who killed millions of people!

Please do know something about history before making yourself the laughingstock of b92/eng.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you??? (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:17)

They were armed by the Yanks but they weren't created by them. They were an already-existing insurgency against Soviet occupation. If you think the insurgency was created out of nothing by the States, you are completely beyond help, completely clueless about how life functions.

Hezbollah is a complex political movement. "Squeezed" is relative to how much land they have right to. And there competing claims.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace. (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:00)

But we aren't talking about Russia as they are today but at the time of their evil invasion of a sovereign country. A godless corrupt egotistical state.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.
(Logging in Kandahar Province, 28 April 2019 21:30)

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! I'll tell you why, because if there's isn't anything to gain financially or some type of military advantage or objective, then they stay away. With respect to Afghanisatan, if you aren't aware, they have tremendously high oil reserves still buried in that country, and this isn't including any of the other major natural resources. This is untapped and they're anticipated to start drilling soon if they can get a time out from the conflicts - of course, the US won't allow if they can help it.

So, in a nutshell, if there is oil or natural resources, the US is there... if friend, they buy it, or if foe, they try to take it!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! (Chi, 29 April 2019 15:23)

They are, dear, it's call USAID. The generous citizens fund relief efforts to the tune of $27 billion per year. I appreciate the sacrifice that American citizens make for the good of others.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you???

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are. (VIEW FROM UK, 29 April 2019 20:03)

You're having a problem with strength and tense. The US did not make them "what they are." This is more acccurate: the US "helped" make them what they "were." They did not teach them Islamist view of any type; and they only helped them be proficient resistance fighters back then.

With these adjustments, your entire line of reasoning should be changed.

Staff

pre 5 godina

If we like it or not. As long as China (and many others) says no to your province as a new country, people can scream as much as they like. Kosovo will belong to Serbia forever. Good work Vucic!

Zoran

pre 5 godina

Let's keep our ties with China strong as we all know, China is the future. It's not out there destroying country after country like we know who, it is in fact building and building. Smart move having China as a strong partner.

Smart Serb

pre 5 godina

Vucic saying that the West are aggressive and Chinese diplomacy is respectful.
As long as we have China and Russia standing by our side, then Pristina can continue to cry.
See the difference is we stand side by side and not stand like Albos with U.S behind them. That is called cowardice.

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Serbia will never be part of the EU they decide who get to join that Union for example Croatia become part of the EU before Serbia and that country did not meet 50% of the EU Conditions Serbia should forget all of this EU membership nonsense and take it's seat with the EAEU which is on curse later this year. Also NATO is not a possible membership for Serbia that means Collective Security Treaty Organization

Lenard

pre 5 godina

He's found his tie.
(Andy UK, 25 April 2019 10:29) Well sure we Croatians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cravat have every one by the neck. At least he looks semi presentable and that is hard for a Serb to be. China has Serbia in its pocket. Lends the money, charges interest. uses its own manufactured materials, hires Chinese to do the work etc. Serbia gets poor quality workmanship and decades of paying debts when it is finished paying the crumbling projects time to tear up the poor extravaganza.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

When Serbia can’t meet the repayments the CHINESE will be doing more than just pressuring Mr. Vucic....💣
(Laughing all the way to the bank, 25 April 2019 12:04)

@ laughingallthewaytothebankaj - Stupidest statement of the week! This would be true with ANY country that doesn't repay their loan...unless you're "kosovaaaaa", living of welfare! Welfare means "here's some money so you can eat because no one else will"!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Laughing all the way......dear me, you have no idea of how the world works. China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. Answer this; who has China invaded to "give them some democracy"...?? The American model of foreign policy is known as "The Death Economy". Read up and educate yourself.
And didnt Serbia allow tens of thousands of Chinese citizens to settle in Serbia not too long ago? Aint it nice when these people respect the country they are in and dont start a terrorist group for independence...?? Ring a bell Albos...???
As for your comment @blue, I can tell you with confidence that the people of Serbia do not want to join the EU. I have heard and read many opinion polls in Serbia and a big majority wants no part of being in the EU. Research it yourself if you dont believe me. Knowing that @blue, what is your point...!??

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

China is investing in other countries, not sending an army to topple governments and replace them with a puppet who allows the US to steal the assets such as oil, gas, timber, metals, etc. (VIEW FROM UK, 25 April 2019 16:50)

Thanks for reminding me. I totally forgot about the value of lumber even though a private US firm is subcontracting the logging industry. Now it all makes sense. The American government invaded Afghanistan for the timber. It really had nothing to do with freedom and justice! Those evil people!!!

Avni

pre 5 godina

Hojt Ji opet oštro o Srbiji: Nema i Rusija i EU, nerealne priče o ulasku u EU, foliranje https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=25&nav_category=11&nav_id=1534690

P.S. Serbia wants to join EU by praising communist China. Hmmm...

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Leonard....were you at the talks in China?? You seem to know the terms of what was agreed, every detail about every deal..... Oh how Croatia would love China to invest in that country...!!!
Amazing how you have negative views on everything Serbian. But you cant explain or justify Croat nazis murdering countless in the 1940s or operation storm....I've asked you many times but its silence from you...
And how big is Croatias debt these days...? Start worrying about the educated youth leaving Croatia, etc. instead of bad mouthing Serbia.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

The US government helped arm local Afghans to fight off the Soviets who wanted to crush and subject every nation around them. The Soviets...you know....the country that was at one time ruled by Stalin...the lovely man who killed millions of people!

Please do know something about history before making yourself the laughingstock of b92/eng.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time. (VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

But tell us this... what was the quality of life before the Americans arrived?

Taliban or American governance. Which is better?

If you say "the Taliban" then you only prove to us that you are a radical Islamist. If you admit that it was better with the Americans, then you disproved yourself. Good luck with those options!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging in ..whatever....oh yes, such a clever reply from you.
So the Americans went to Afghanistan to give them freedom and democracy..??? That surely must take the prize of the most stupid comments in a long time.
Tell us just how good is life in Afghanistan these days? Or in Iraq, Libya? Or in any country wher America has gone in to "give democracy"..??
Lets look at Venezuela...a country the US had had sanctions on for years. Now the Americans want to send aid to the same people they have sanctioned...???
Didnt the US arm the Islamists in places like Afghanistan in the '80s?? Now they are terrorists?? And how is the supply of heroin in the US (provided by Afghanistan and delivered by Albanians)?
I have a suggestion, do read and research a bit on world affairs, US foreign policy before maing daft statements on here and becoming a laughing stock...
(VIEW FROM UK, 26 April 2019 01:27)

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you???

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....oh I know very well about history. I was a huge critic of communism. But Russia is today is not communist. Believe me, the US is the most aggressive nation on the planet and biggest threat to world peace. (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:00)

But we aren't talking about Russia as they are today but at the time of their evil invasion of a sovereign country. A godless corrupt egotistical state.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Loggin....cant believe that you are so simple. The taliban was created by the Yanks. They were armed by America to fight the Soviets. After that they resist American rule. If America never invaded then there would be no taliban. Same as there would be no hezbollah in Israel/Palestine if Israel didnt squeeze Palestinians. How simple are you??? (VIEW FROM UK, 28 April 2019 23:17)

They were armed by the Yanks but they weren't created by them. They were an already-existing insurgency against Soviet occupation. If you think the insurgency was created out of nothing by the States, you are completely beyond help, completely clueless about how life functions.

Hezbollah is a complex political movement. "Squeezed" is relative to how much land they have right to. And there competing claims.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Your argument was that US military invasion is for financial gain. Lacking any possibile significant economic gain by invading Afghanistan, your argument is necessarily false. And I would suggest that your insistence on condemning the supposedly "evil" intentions of the US government suggests that you likely dramatically overplay this claim elsewhere.
(Logging in Kandahar Province, 28 April 2019 21:30)

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! I'll tell you why, because if there's isn't anything to gain financially or some type of military advantage or objective, then they stay away. With respect to Afghanisatan, if you aren't aware, they have tremendously high oil reserves still buried in that country, and this isn't including any of the other major natural resources. This is untapped and they're anticipated to start drilling soon if they can get a time out from the conflicts - of course, the US won't allow if they can help it.

So, in a nutshell, if there is oil or natural resources, the US is there... if friend, they buy it, or if foe, they try to take it!

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 5 godina

Logging, here's a question for you. Why aren't the Americans trying to spread their peaceful Democracy in the third world African countries? You know, world police, we want to cut out hunger, we want to help evryone!!! (Chi, 29 April 2019 15:23)

They are, dear, it's call USAID. The generous citizens fund relief efforts to the tune of $27 billion per year. I appreciate the sacrifice that American citizens make for the good of others.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are.

Logging in Kandahar Province

pre 4 godine

Loggin.....now you playing with words. Without America the taliban would have been nothing more than a band armed with stones and bows & arrows. The US trained this group and armed them. Ye, there was resistance there to the soviets but the US organised them and made them what they are. (VIEW FROM UK, 29 April 2019 20:03)

You're having a problem with strength and tense. The US did not make them "what they are." This is more acccurate: the US "helped" make them what they "were." They did not teach them Islamist view of any type; and they only helped them be proficient resistance fighters back then.

With these adjustments, your entire line of reasoning should be changed.