Do we need this kind of EU, asks Serbian minister

Here is my advice for the confused Serbs:

1. Withdraw your application to join the EU.

2. Revert all the changes to pre-EU- application situation in Serbia

3. Apply for the membership in the Russian Federation and wait for 5 minutes for Putin's NIET.

4. Send your toothless army to take Kosova back.

5. Count to 10.

6. Establish your new border with Albanians in Kruševac.

7. Wait for 10 years.

8. Establish new border between the Albanians and Hungarians on the Danube.

The correct question would be: Does EU need this serbia?

😂 LOL, WHAT GIBBERISH FROM THE MAN IN BLACK!

Vulinovic, It is not Greater Albania yet the Albanian Nation Is indeed Great!
It is called NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years, it has surly existed way before your ancestors made there way here originated from the Caucasus, we have been here way before the arrival of the Turkish hordes who we fought off for decades, we even predate The Romans which our dear queen TEUTA fought defiantly and stamped out their names into the pages of history,, why my historical writings put the Albanian nation here on this very land predating the ancient Greeks by at least 1000 years!!!!
Natural Albanian can be compared to something’s like the Himalayas, The Alps, Mt Figi, Mt Everest, The Sahara, maybe even compared to a continent! Something that has been here since the earliest days of human evolution itself!
This is the true meaning of Natural Albanian something you like to refer to as Greater 🇦🇱 Albania 🇦🇱!!!

From Rocky: " NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years,..."

HAHAHA!!! Says who Rocky?? You?? Who are you?? Some bone head anonymously pounding away at his computer. Please give us your credentials as a Balkan historian please. Where did you go to school? What are your degrees? What have you had published? Until you answer these questions Rocky, you're just another loudmouth Albanian with too much time on his hands....probably unemployed and sponging off of the gov't. like most of your countrymen.

than withdraw application for EU integration and join dictatorship russia. Europe doesnt give a **** about serb idiocracy

Vulinovic, It is not Greater Albania yet the Albanian Nation Is indeed Great!
It is called NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years, it has surly existed way before your ancestors made there way here originated from the Caucasus, we have been here way before the arrival of the Turkish hordes who we fought off for decades, we even predate The Romans which our dear queen TEUTA fought defiantly and stamped out their names into the pages of history,, why my historical writings put the Albanian nation here on this very land predating the ancient Greeks by at least 1000 years!!!!
Natural Albanian can be compared to something’s like the Himalayas, The Alps, Mt Figi, Mt Everest, The Sahara, maybe even compared to a continent! Something that has been here since the earliest days of human evolution itself!
This is the true meaning of Natural Albanian something you like to refer to as Greater 🇦🇱 Albania 🇦🇱!!!
(PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, 3 January 2019 15:05

The only NATURAL-ALBANIAN is a TURK! Your DNA, your appearance, your religion, ALL TURKISH. Back to ANATOLIA with you people - then, and only then, will there be peace in the BALKANS. Leave it to US indigenous people to figure out our own problems. You can go back to ALBANIA or ANATOLIA and no one would miss you. SERBS=Illyrians, got it....

Another day, another wave of complaints by insecure serbia. Get used Serbia, Kosova CAN do whatever they want and them joining Albania is none of your damn business.

Europe doesnt give a **** about serb idiocracy
(bert, 3 January 2019 16:19)

no one cares about a troll.

Where else are you going to go? Join African Union. Funny how you never said no to all that free money coming from EU, all these years.

Another one needs sending in the frontline to claim "its Kosovo territory"...Serbia should send these type of 'hardliners' as they are tired of life.

Chi, how can you be indigenous people, you came to the Balkans in the 7th century AD.

Search for Albanopolis - the city of the Albanians - that has existed at least since 7th century BC. That's 14 centuries before your barbaric hordes descended into the Balkans.

Mary, don't mind njegos, it's a reflex for him that whenever he loses a debate, he retorts to personal insults.
The debate is over his head, he can't come up with any other arguments, and like clockwork, personal attacks come out.
I call this the njegos indicator. He knows it himself that he has lost whenever the indicator turns on.
Watch when he will start attacking me and asking about my relatives during WWII. It won't make sense, but it's njegos in his full glory.

Vulin,
The EU has spoken, but you were too dense to understand. The EU generally responds to Serbia by expelling noxious gas from its collective rectum.

@ peter rocky mountain troll

Serbs are indigenous to this region these are our lands. albanians on the other hand originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey). This is the truth stop spreading lies every day here go get a real job.

Njegos @ 16:05 3 Jan.

That’s what I like about you, njegos, always objective and unassuming. I’m sure you feel yourself too important to present your credentials, as you demand of others.

From Mary: "That’s what I like about you, njegos, always objective and unassuming. I’m sure you feel yourself too important to present your credentials, as you demand of others."

Wrong Mary. If you were paying attention to my comments over time, you'd realize that I do not make unsubstantiated claims that are without substance and unverifiable like the Albanian contingent on this forum does ad nauseam. Anyone can make wild claims that they're descendants of this or that and that they were the first to inhabit an area, so on and so forth. But to have any believability one must back their statements up with reasearchable and verifiable evidence from credible sources. Otherwise, it doesn't mean anything. And if the claims that Rocky and his pals are making were true, why wouldn't there be any credible historians out there that support this. Since you seem to be Rocky's defender Mary, perhaps you'll come back with evidence to support his claims. Until then, consider yourself another wannabe revisionist who is long on brash statements but short on facts. Bye, bye Mary.

Chi: "Now, as far as Serbs go, we CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY in the 5-6th century.... I would venture to say that we were a pagan people, like most of the region at this time, and thus indigenous. I really can't explain this better, or anymore"

You mean, you can't polish that turd any more, because it will always be a turd.
It's a well known, recorded historical fact that the Slavs came into the Balkans during the barbaric invasions, in the 6th and 7th centuries. There were no Slavs in the Balkans before that. Serbs were introduced to Christianity in the mid 7th century, but not fully Christianized until the time of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) as attested by Constantine Porphyrogenitus.
By contrast, Christianity was introduced in the Balkans in the 1st century by St Paul who established a church in Durres ("From Jerusalem all the way to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ" (Romans 15:19)) St Asti, was bishop of Durres, and killed in 98 AD. Martyrs St Flori and Lauri, were killed for building a Christian church in Ulpiana, today's Lipjan in the 2nd century. Bishops from Dardania, Macedonia, Pannonia were part of the first Ecumenical Council in Nicea in 325 AD and Council of Sardica, 343 AD.
The Balkans, as part of the Byzantine Empire, were fully Christianized by the 5-6 century AD. The fact that the Serbs were pagans, means that they came from outside the Empire, i.e outside of Balkans.

EU hangs the option of Serbia joining the EU just to have them behave like normal people as they know Serbia can go back to their criminal true self. Serbia will never be accepted in EU because of their corrupt government and the lack of human rights that exists in the country.

Chi: "that the Albanians came into existence in Europe around the 15th century."

Wrong, Albanoi are mentioned by Ptolemy in 150 AD and also Albanoi are mentioned by the Byzantine historian Attaliates in 1043, in the same geographic area.

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
1000 years and no physical gene exchange? Nationalists you could be really the products of 1000s and 1000s of years of incest. :D
And even better you guys live in USA, Australia, New Zealand anywhere than in the balkan. Take care of you children so far away they could mix up fast with 'others' and your grandchildren will not care about balkan problems at all nor will they speak the language.

Serbia may find itself left behind if it doesn't strive join the EU.

Serbia stay with the EU rather than a dictator. Cheers!
(WestSwan, 4 January 2019 08:16)
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Who are you trying to trick?
EU is run by unelected dictators. Serbia has democratic elections.
Go and try to sell that swamp to your brethren Albanians.

@Peggy... Serbia has fair elections !

Why are there tens of thousands of Serbs protesting each day about the corruption and Vucic’s dictatorship.

I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan? You and your albanian brothers in mind from god knows where think so much about the region but would not dare to live here.
(Tito reloaded, 4 January 2019 12:21)
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So you don't care about your ancestors but you want to tell me who my are.
Also, why do you change the subject? Who was talking about where I live or should live?
Again, it's none of your business just like who my ancestors are.

So you don't care about your ancestors but you want to tell me who my are.
Also, why do you change the subject? Who was talking about where I live or should live?
Again, it's none of your business just like who my ancestors are.
(Peggy)
oh Peggy, why you get so emotional? You live your lovely life in a western society, enjoy it and do not bodder with issues from a place you do not live.
I would be worried about your children as they could get married to none serbs, maybe even with albanians or a person from a NATO state.
You and several other people here look like classical 2nd or 3rd generation, that are foreigners in their residence country and foreigners in the country of their parents/grandparent. And sometimes this people try to compensate this with exaggerated nationalism.

Chi, how can you be indigenous people, you came to the Balkans in the 7th century AD.

Search for Albanopolis - the city of the Albanians - that has existed at least since 7th century BC. That's 14 centuries before your barbaric hordes descended into the Balkans.
(Albanopolis, 3 January 2019 21:06)

Albo buddy. let me set the record straight for you people for the 100th time. For arguments sake, I'll give you the 7th century, but as we all know, deep down inside, that the Albanians came into existence in Europe around the 15th century. If you examine this closely, it fits in with the history of the Balkans. Now, as far as Serbs go, we CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY in the 5-6th century. This doesn't mean that Christ came back and just dropped us off from heaven (however, very possible in that area during this time, it means that we were there from the beginning. I would venture to say that we were a pagan people, like most of the region at this time, and thus indigenous. I really can't explain this better, or anymore. If you need to copy and paste this into a folder for future reference, please do, I give you permission. We good now?!?!

From Albanopolis: "Mary, don't mind njegos, it's a reflex for him that whenever he loses a debate, he retorts to personal insults."

HAHA! Albanopolis, please tell me how I can lose a debate when I've answered every one of your questions, with verifiable sources to back up my statements, yet you run away from my questions? Is this some kind of Albanian logic? It must be, because your leaders sign agreements, ie, Brussels, CEFTA, etc. with no intention of ever living up to their commitments. Do you see a similar pattern?

You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site. So let's see. we can sum up Albanopolis like this: Runs away from question he doesn't like, never provides sources to back up his wild claims, resorts to using profanity when his buttons are pushed and I almost forgot, gets mad when I mention that his relatives fought for the Balli Kombater during WWII. Did I miss anything Albanopolis?

Slavic Serbian,..your origin drives from mother Russia

Nothing insulting,..just be proud

No wonder your language and relationship between Serbia and Russia it’s so close 🤔

You stupid propaganda against ancient Illyrians today Albanians doesn’t work anymore

DNA test proves Albanians are Ancient Greeks which mean ( Illyrian)
Every single Albanian is testifying there roots all over YouTube ,..and results are astonishing more Ancient Greeks than now days Greeks living in Greece

Serbia game over,...just seat back and relax

Illyria will raise back a again

It's disgusting to read some of the comments made by people. Serbia stay with the EU rather than a dictator. Cheers!

one again serbia displaying anti European values and threatening to use force on his neighbors. its time for europe to suspend all EU integration process for serbia

Njegos @. 19:41

But of course, Njegos, your credentials speak for themself, as do those of sj... wink, wink. It certainly makes sense to believe in the word of those whose ancestors came from the big island’s penal colony.

Where else are you going to go? Join African Union. Funny how you never said no to all that free money coming from EU, all these years.
(Avni, 3 January 2019 18:43)
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EU is consistently showing itself to be Serbia's enemy. It's not European people, but the unelected band of tyrants who are the enemy.
Why should Serbia join such an organisation? So that they can control Serbia even more?
As far as receiving money, well if the wish to give, Serbia will take.
Simple. Who says no to free money, your mob certainly doesn't.

Most of Serbs are against joining EU so the government should listen.

You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.
(Peggy)
I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan? You and your albanian brothers in mind from god knows where think so much about the region but would not dare to live here.

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
1000 years and no physical gene exchange? Nationalists you could be really the products of 1000s and 1000s of years of incest. :D
And even better you guys live in USA, Australia, New Zealand anywhere than in the balkan. Take care of you children so far away they could mix up fast with 'others' and your grandchildren will not care about balkan problems at all nor will they speak the language. (Tito reloaded, 3 January 2019 16:29)

Yes, it's interesting how the nationalists children are almost inevitably mixing with those godless Americans, Brits, and Australians while they forever try to teach us about the evils of those terrible people. Hilarious!

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
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Tito reloaded,
You better quit telling me who my ancestors are.
You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.

@Ratko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanoi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serboi

.... DNA test proves Albanians are Ancient Greeks which mean ( Illyrian)
Every single Albanian is testifying there roots all over YouTube ,..and results are astonishing more Ancient Greeks than now days Greeks living in Greece....

(DielliArt, 4 January 2019 04:43)

Wait, wut?

DNA tests can in fact show whether you have Illyrian blood running through your veins, however that will require LOTS of DNA sampling, in other words ALL the Albs worldwide. Right?

Companies that sell DNA tests take some DNA from persons of particular descent and analyse their genetics which are usually closely related. That way companies create an e.g “Anglo-Saxon” classification or a “Greek” or perhaps even a certain African tribe classification. However, doing this costs loads of money.

You do know that is costs between $200,- and $250,- for 1 single serious test. Right?

And in order to find the genetics of the Illyrians, you will need the DNA of Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs as we are 100% sure that the Hrvat and Sorb Slavic tribes mixed with the indigenous Illyrians after their arrival to the Balkan peninsula. Contemporary companies do not want to spend a lot of money and just call their pre-Slavic Balkan classification “Balkan” or even “Greek” or “Italy/Greece.”

So tell me, Every single Alb has paid serious money for such a test?

@Ratko
[link]

[link]
(Dardania'Alb, 4 January 2019 07:12)

@Alb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

You and several other people here look like classical 2nd or 3rd generation, that are foreigners in their residence country and foreigners in the country of their parents/grandparent. And sometimes this people try to compensate this with exaggerated nationalism.
(Tito reloaded, 4 January 2019 15:37)

I think that deep down inside they know it is inconsistent to live in the West and absorb western culture while continually trash talking the West. As a result they wax worse and worse. It is a compulsion.

I don't find any of the locals here in southern Serbia suffering from the same condition. Instead, they complain about corruption in the political regime.

It is so obvious that our resident ultranationalists are actually not faithful nationalists at all but foreigners suffering from a personal compulsion.

It is so obvious that our resident ultranationalists are actually not faithful nationalists at all but foreigners suffering from a personal compulsion.
(JS, 4 January 2019 17:03)

There is no greater example of “a foreigner(s) suffering from a personal compulsion” than JS himself.
JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency.

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.
(JS, 7 January 2019 16:35)

JS, you are a liar.
Check that-
JS, you are a bad liar who has access to the internet and can look up a web site for a private medical clinic in Belgrade.
You’ve never been to MediGroup and you don’t know anything about medical facilities in Serbia.
If you had been to MediGroup, you would have been treated by health care professionals who were trained and accredited in a Serbian Medical Faculty and state teaching hospital. Yes JS, the MediGroup staff were trained in the same teaching hospitals that you write are in 1700s.
I have been to Serbia. I do know about Serbian medical science.
You, on the other hand, have stupidly surfed a MediGroup web site and you don’t know what you are talking about.

oh Peggy, why you get so emotional? You live your lovely life in a western society, enjoy it and do not bodder with issues from a place you do not live.
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There you go again thinking you can lecture me. I don't need advice from the likes of you.
I wans't getting emotional. I was only exposing your meddling and thinking that you know about people you have no idea about. Then you go and change the subject and want to discuss where I live.
That wasn't emotion. That was a GOTCHA. You can't stick to the subject because you aren't intelligent enough so you then have to divert and ask questions abut something not even associated with what we discussing.

You have no right to dismiss our opinions let alone for the reasons of where we live or question our loyalty to our brothers and sisters all over the world.
Now if you wish to discuss the topic at hand go ahead but don't try to play a smartarse and devalue our opinions by devaluing us for any reason.
Again, not emotion, just a note that your ability to discuss without you showing emotion and smartarse tactics is lacking.

njegos: "It must be, because your leaders sign agreements, ie, Brussels, CEFTA, etc. with no intention of ever living up to their commitments"

Njegos, CEFTA was signed by UNMIK, and probably they didn't give a crap of what they were signing because they were on a 6-month contract. As for the Brussels agreements, Serbia also has not fulfilled several signed agreements: the energy agreement, the recognition of diplomas and cadastre registers. As for the ZSO, the agreement contained a clause that it had to be within Kosova's constitution, and the Constitutional Court rejected the agreement.

njegos: "You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site."
Really, you're talking about profanity on this site? How about outright bigotry from the Serb side, is that OK by you? And I'm sure you're not a white lily either.

"Runs away from question he doesn't like" - Which one? My family is not a topic of public discussion, so what other questions do you have njegos?
"Never provides sources to back up his wild claims" - When?
"gets mad when I mention that his relatives fought for the Balli Kombater during WWII" - Wrong, my family did not fight for Balli Kombetar and you know you're making up crap because you have nothing else to say. So stick to the topics, not to my family, or is the njegos indicator going off again?

The Balkans, as part of the Byzantine Empire, were fully Christianized by the 5-6 century AD. The fact that the Serbs were pagans, means that they came from outside the Empire, i.e outside of Balkans.
(Albanopolis, 4 January 2019 19:54

Albo, please reread this and tell me what's wrong. I'm trying to help you so you don't sound stupid - this statement, at best, ridiculous. Thanks,

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.
(JS, 7 January 2019 16:35
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Isn't Belgrade in Serbia?

Peggy, Peggy,Peggy. You can be very rude at times. I read your comments here & there and well, geeez girl...do you slap everyone in the face. Common sense should prevail. Cheers & have a xxxx on me.

Peggy, Peggy,Peggy. You can be very rude at times. I read your comments here & there and well, geeez girl...do you slap everyone in the face. Common sense should prevail. Cheers & have a xxxx on me.
(WestSwan, 5 January 2019 01:52)
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Some people need a good slap in the face for common sense to prevail.
I wouldn't call what I say rude but truth being told in the only way that some people can understand. Polite speech goes over the head of some here.

But it is nice that you defend your albanian and serbian brothers that like to think in nationalities even if they live anywhere else than here and some might even not have an albanian or serbian citizenship.
(Tito reloaded, 6 January 2019 08:46
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Let me sum it up nicely for you.
Just because I live outside Serbia or any Serbian lands doesn't mean that Serbs are not in my heart wherever I am.
Maybe it works differently for you but not for me.
My choice where I was going to be brought up and live was not up to me and I have build a life for myself and my children elsewhere but the blood that runs through my veins is Serbian as it is in my children and they know it.
Also, I have helped Serbs during the war of the 90s in a few different ways including financially.
Would you tell me that I shouldn't've done that because I "choose" to live outside Serbia? Will you expect me to uproot and force my children to come with me to Serbia when none of us have lived there?
Many Serb men from Australia have gone to the former Yugoslavia and fought side by side with their brethren even though many were not born there.
Should they have not?
Don't eve tell me that I or anyone else should stop loving and caring for Serbia because I "choose" to live elsewhere. How dare you.

From Albanopolis: "Serbia was fully aware of the Kosova's complaints on the discriminatory practices that Serbia has in place against Kosovar exports. Free trade presupposes fair trade; you want to play dirty games, then pay 100% tariffs."

Come on, everyone knows that the reason for the tariffs and thus, Kosovo's breaking the CEFTA agreement, is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo. For you to portray it any other way is simply a lie, but what else is new?

Regarding the forming of the ZSO, you said that the Brussels agreement isn't in line with the Kosovo constitution. When I asked to show me this, you simply reposted the Brussels agreement. Again, I ask, where is the conflict? After all, your leadership signed it more than 6 years ago. Should be easy to point out, don't you think? stopping you. Here are your words "But the competencies that you want for the ZSO are not in line with Kosova's constitution..." What's not in line with the constitution? You still haven't shown me a thing, but again, what else is new?

Regarding WWII and your family, I never bragged about my family's role, but I am proud of their participation and when you attack the Chetniks like you did, I will respond. You opened the can of worms that you obviously no longer wish to pursue. I'll take that as capitulation. If, and when you want to reopen the discussion about WWII, start by telling me what role in the Balli Kombater your family had. Cheers!

From Albanopolis: "Njegos, CEFTA was signed by UNMIK,"

Correct Albanopolis, UNMIK signed the agreement on behalf of Kosovo. If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time? You're really reaching here.

More from Albanolopis: "...the agreement contained a clause that it had to be within Kosova's constitution..."

Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist. It was only well after Kosovo's leaders signed the agreement that they came up with the excuse that it conflicts with Kosovo's constitution. If that were true, they should have know that when they signed the agreement. I'll wait for your posting of the clause you're referring to. I say you're a LIAR!


More in my next post

From Albanopolis: "njegos: "You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site."
"Really, you're talking about profanity on this site? How about outright bigotry from the Serb side, is that OK by you? And I'm sure you're not a white lily either."

I am not responsible for what others say on this site, only myself. Following your convoluted logic, I should then hold you responsible for what degenerates like Azir says on behalf of the Albanians. This is a guy who celebrates the Jasenovac concentration camp and the annihilation of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies there. Do you want to go down that road Albanopolis?

"Runs away from question he doesn't like" - Which one?

Let's start with your comment about the clause stating that the Brussels agreement must comply with the Kosovo constitution. You're a LIAR!

"My family is not a topic of public discussion"

Why? Aren't you a proud Albanian?

I guess if my relatives fought with the Nazis, I would be ashamed too.

Albanololis - Try to follow this, as hard as that may be for you. UNMIK signed the CEFTA agreement on behalf of Kosovo. As of 2013 Kosovo has been a part of the CEFTA agreement and therefore, are expected to abide by its guidelines. If Kosovo has an issue with CEFTA, why did it take nearly 6 years for them to say so? More slippery logic from you Albanopolis. They broke the agreement that they had been conforming to for over 6 years. Bottom line - they broke their agreement.

Here is the full clause that you conveniently failed to post re: the ZSO: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities e.g. President, vice President, Assembly, Council."

Now, tell me where does the Brussels agreement conflict with the Kosovo constitution? You have shown me nothing thus far.

And regarding your comment about not wanting to discuss your family's past: why was it OK for you to refer to me derogatorily as a Chetnik several posts ago, yet when I question you about your family's WWII affiliation, you claim I'm out of bounds. You won't even discuss the subjects you bring up, yet you say I'm losing the debate. More Albanian logic. My advice for you is that if you're ashamed of your family's involvement in WWII, don't bring up WWII as a discussion point. Run along now and cry on your Balli Kombater grandfather's shoulder.

It is below me to prove that I did something that I have done several times. So, if you think I'm a liar that's your own problem.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

Exposing the lies of JS is not a problem. It’s actually quite fun. I’m having a grand time.
The only thing you do several times, is look for references to places/objects in Serbia over the internet, to lie about your Serbian residency.


PS - The last time I was treated at MediGroup, the doctor was Macedonian, not Serbian, and he is a university professor.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

All the doctors in MediGroup must be licensed in Serbia to practice in Serbia.
According to the MediGroup website, even Prof Dr. Boris Kitanoski completed his specialty examination in a Serbian state facility.... the same facilities you lie are in the 1700s.

PS: have you managed to locate an elementary school atlas to learn of the size of Siberia?

More from Albanopolis: "Regarding ZSO, it seems we both agree that it has to be in line with the existing Kosova's law on associations of municipalities, as stated in the Brussels agreement."

You still haven't provided any evidence that the ZSO doesn't comply with the constitution of Kosovo. After all, your president signed the agreement. How could he have made such an oversight? All you have done is repost the Brussels agreement. Where is the conflict? Where is the non conformity? Since I see you're short on problem solving skills, allow me to give you a hint: Go to the Kosovo constitution and repost the specific area where the formation of the ZSO does not conform to it. My bet is that you have never even read the Kosovo constitution. It would also appear that your president didn't either!! Too funny. And you guys want people to take you seriously?

And regarding WWII. You, my friend attacked the Chetniks. That is an attack on my family. If want to enter into a debate and bring certain subjects up, you should know your audience or be prepared for the backlash. You made derogatory comments about Chetniks and I responded. I merely asked you about your family's involvement in WWII and you ran away. My advice to you is to stay away from WWII as a discussion topic. Your comments to me were personal as I've described above. And if you are that ashamed about your family's past, you should refrain from making derogatory comments about others' families. Got it?

Peggy I really try to figure out the subject change.
You wrote 'Tito reloaded,
You better quit telling me who my ancestors are.
You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.'
I answered you on that 'I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.' Actually you quit immediatly on that topic by telling me I shall quit talking about you ancesters. ;)
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan?' I gave you a clear answer that as often you do not understand. And I opened the chapter, why 'serbs' and 'albanians' that are living anywhere than in the balkan think so much about it.
You really got me not understanding your mind as I do not understand albanians and serbs that prefer to live abroad but still do like it is so important for them to be a good albanian or serbian.
You stopped the discussion about ancesters, after my answer. Let us go further with it. Do you think you are 100% without any ancesters that an albanian, croatian, bosnian has? I do believe that I have for sure if I go far enough back.
Further I would also not blame Vucic or Thacis children for their fathers doings, as the define themself as every individual does.
But it is nice that you defend your albanian and serbian brothers that like to think in nationalities even if they live anywhere else than here and some might even not have an albanian or serbian citizenship.

@ Ataman --- Lenard's 'brother', JS, quotes scripture, too. Must run in the family. One's true self eventually appears regardless of the monikers. I think I'll try drinking while trolling.

I need to give you credit for getting the point that I travelled the entire way from southern Serbia to Belgrade to be treated in a normal health facility because the state health facilities are in terrible condition. This is a no-brainer for anyone from Serbia but being a foreigner I applaud you for realizing this.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

JS, your credit and words are worthless.
The only point conveyed was that you virtually traveled to visit the MediaGroup website and read the name of a Macedonian doctor.
This doctor, as all staff doctors at MediGroup, were trained and accredited in Serbia....in state medical facilities that you lie are in the 1700s.
JS, your “personal compulsions” and virtual website travels from your “three (fake) Serbian farms” can not hide your lies and hatred.

You seem to be the only one around here who doesn't understand hyperbole
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

You’ve demonstrated hyperbole perfectly: It’s non-truth posted by a JS. Examples of JS’ hyperbole include Serbian medical facilities that resemble the 1700s but exaggerated by hundreds of years; or living in Serbia exaggerated by thousands of kilometers.

And I am going to tell you the thing that gets you madder than anything else but is true: I am a bigger Serb than you!
(JS, 9 January 2019 16:51)

JS, your self-diagnosed hyperboles have you living in an up-is-down, down-is-up world. Your “tells” are laughable comedy. I’m having a great time exposing your lies.
Just as your hyperbolized Serbian residency has you actually living within thousands of kilometers of Serbia, I won’t argue with your hyperbolized “bigger” assertion.
Yes, I’ll concede that you most probably exceed the weight of the average Serb or Russian by hundreds of kilograms. Your sedentary lifestyle plowing away at your three keyboards has obviously ballooned your body-mass-index.

When Pristina introduce taxes of 100 percent, the EU says that Albanians will reduce them a little to continue the dialogue with Belgrade, and "put us into the same basket."

This part of the translation makes no sense.



Sincerely,

There is no greater example of “a foreigner(s) suffering from a personal compulsion” than JS himself.

JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency. (Zhukov, 5 January 2019 12:53)

My response? To kick my feet up on a chair, lean against a warm radiator, and drink a cold cup of Cockta. Greetings from Serbia!

PS - What's the temperature today in Siberia?

These ultranationalists are always talking about war. They have no understanding of God's instructions. For example, Isaiah 30:15:

“In returning and rest you shall be saved; In quietness and confidence shall be your strength.”

Ultranationalists don't understand the strength of quietness and confidence in the face of an advancing army. Contrary to God's instructions, the Israelites fled to Egypt:

But you would not, And you said, “No, for we will flee on horses”— Therefore you shall flee! And, “We will ride on swift horses”— Therefore those who pursue you shall be swift! (v. 16)

Because they disobeyed the Almighty, he caused the Assyrian horses to pursue them with speed and strength.

They, like our resident ultranationalists, "are a rebellious people" (Isaiah 30:9) and "scoffers" (29:20) who do not understand meekness but turn everything upside down (29:16) and have no understanding of Isaiah's visions (29:9-12).

JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency. (Zhukov, 5 January 2019 12:53)

My response? To kick my feet up on a chair, lean against a warm radiator, and drink a cold cup of Cockta. Greetings from Serbia!
(JS, 5 January 2019 20:53)

JS’ “personal compulsions” can’t cloak his ultranationalism. Thank you for reiterating your sham Serbian residency.

PS: Meteorologically, there is no one homogenous temperature in a region as vast as Siberia. Your delusion about owning (fake) farms in Serbia has obviously deteriorated your grasp of elementary world geography.

njegos: "If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time?"

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?


njegos: "Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist."

- There it is njegos: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities". The ZSO that you want falls outside of the existing statue of the Association of Kosova municipalities, that's why the Constitutional Court stroke it down.


"My family is not a topic of public discussion"; njegos: "Why?"

- Because I'm not going to make them a topic of public discussion, dummy. I'm not interested in your family history either, btw.

njegos: "If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time?"

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?


njegos: "Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist."

- There it is njegos: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities". The ZSO that you want falls outside of the existing statue of the Association of Kosova municipalities, that's why the Constitutional Court stroke it down.


"My family is not a topic of public discussion"; njegos: "Why?"

- Because I'm not going to make them a topic of public discussion, dummy. I'm not interested in your family history either, btw.

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?

Alboapolis, you didn't sign shit because you're a puppet state. Your so called allies signed it for you. You're NOT a real country, nor will you be anytime soon....

Please humor me and explain how I could possibly be an ultra-nationalist. I am really looking forward to your explanation!
(JS, 7 January 2019 11:00)

Your hatred for Serbs and Serbia is obvious in comments such as your proposterous rant that the current state of Serbian medicine resembles the 1700s. Or is your ultranationalist delusional mind so polluted with your own lies that you now deny your own rants?
JS,: your lies, fake farms and repeated reference to sham Serbian residency don’t hide your hate.

JS, you are a liar.
Check that-
JS, you are a bad liar who has access to the internet and can look up a web site for a private medical clinic in Belgrade.
You’ve never been to MediGroup and you don’t know anything about medical facilities in Serbia.
If you had been to MediGroup, you would have been treated by health care professionals who were trained and accredited in a Serbian Medical Faculty and state teaching hospital. Yes JS, the MediGroup staff were trained in the same teaching hospitals that you write are in 1700s.
I have been to Serbia. I do know about Serbian medical science.
You, on the other hand, have stupidly surfed a MediGroup web site and you don’t know what you are talking about. (Zhukov, 8 January 2019 13:49)

I need to give you credit for getting the point that I travelled the entire way from southern Serbia to Belgrade to be treated in a normal health facility because the state health facilities are in terrible condition. This is a no-brainer for anyone from Serbia but being a foreigner I applaud you for realizing this.

I am not only a liar but a "bad liar"....wow! oh wow! :)

It is below me to prove that I did something that I have done several times. So, if you think I'm a liar that's your own problem.

PS - The last time I was treated at MediGroup, the doctor was Macedonian, not Serbian, and he is a university professor.

"to lie about your Serbian residency."

I'm loving it here in Serbia. You sound a little jealous...

"According to the MediGroup website, even Prof Dr. Boris Kitanoski completed his specialty examination in a Serbian state facility.... the same facilities you lie are in the 1700s." (Zhukov, 8 January 2019 17:57)

There is a difference between a faculty and a facility. Try looking it up in the English dictionary!

By the way, I applaud you for being able to look up a doctor on MediGroup's website. Your intelligence is on full display! It is knocking me over! :)

Virtual travel is pure speculation. You can't properly assess that from your desk in Siberia!
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

No speculation, from Siberia or anywhere else, is required.
JS, your repetitive “personal compulsions” to a sham Serbian residency sufficiently reveals your lies. Serbian residents who post on B92, do not have the excessive compensatory urge to qualify their comments with the three (fake) Serbian farms they own, or the Cockta they (virtually) drink.


Everyone who actually lives in Serbia knows the state of our state medical facilities.
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

Yes they do. Which is more proof you do not live in Serbia. The facilities are underfunded, but they are not in the 1700s as blatantly lied by JS.
In the 1700s there wasn’t equipment sterilization or aseptic techniques. JS blatantly lies that such are the facilities which exist in Serbia today.
JS, you are a liar and everyone who lives, works and visits medical facilities in Serbia knows the true deficiencies and not the lies propagated by JS’ hatred.

And my three fake farms. I guess they were also fake plowed this fall!
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

Your prolific posting and commenting on B92 this past fall excluded the possibility that you plowed anything but your keyboard.

"JS, your repetitive “personal compulsions” to a sham Serbian residency sufficiently reveals your lies. Serbian residents who post on B92, do not have the excessive compensatory urge to qualify their comments with the three (fake) Serbian farms they own, or the Cockta they (virtually) drink."

Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.

"Yes they do. Which is more proof you do not live in Serbia. The facilities are underfunded, but they are not in the 1700s as blatantly lied by JS.
In the 1700s there wasn’t equipment sterilization or aseptic techniques. JS blatantly lies that such are the facilities which exist in Serbia today.
JS, you are a liar and everyone who lives, works and visits medical facilities in Serbia knows the true deficiencies and not the lies propagated by JS’ hatred."

You seem to be the only one around here who doesn't understand hyperbole.

"Your prolific posting and commenting on B92 this past fall excluded the possibility that you plowed anything but your keyboard." (Zhukov, 9 January 2019 11:09)

As noted elsewhere, I hire locals to work for me.

From Albanopolis: "And the trigger for it was Serbia's aggressive campaign at the Interpol and giving weapons to island states to withdraw recognitions of Kosova."

You're telling fairytales again Albanopolis and you know it. The reason for the tariffs is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo. Haradinaj said so! He also said that the tariffs would be lifted once Serbia granted recognition. It has nothing to do with all of the other hogwash you've spewed.

And giving weapons to island states! Again, more wild claims with no factual evidence behind them. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. In fact, judging by your previous comments, it makes them more likely to be untrue since you can't substantiate a single thing you ever say. You act like Serbia is this wealthy country that can buy favors from others for political votes. Well, where are your credible sources to support this? Nowhere as usual!!

Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

Most of the commentators on B92 are Serbian residents.
The English language section, has a very small fraction of the total comments.
On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few hateful and lying (or hyperbolizing) Albanian ultranationalist.
JS, your posts, your “hyperboles”, and your “personal compulsions” expose you.

"Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

Most of the commentators on B92 are Serbian residents.
The English language section, has a very small fraction of the total comments."

As you are well aware, we are only talking about b92/eng. But folks like you don't mind deception, changing the context to try to make themselves look right. To set the context correctly once again, I am one of the very few on this site that actually lives in the Balkans. That's why I can regularly talk about life here, unlike the hateful ultranationalist fake Serbs who live abroad and have big mouths and ugly souls.

"On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few hateful and lying (or hyperbolizing) Albanian ultranationalist."

Let me help you fix that: 'On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few handfuls of hateful and lying ultranationalists. Some are Serbs, some are Albanians, and at least one is Croatian.'

And I am going to tell you the thing that gets you madder than anything else but is true: I am a bigger Serb than you!

"JS, your posts, your “hyperboles”, and your “personal compulsions” expose you. (Zhukov, 9 January 2019 15:31)

Says the person who always has a comeback!

Some people need a good slap in the face for common sense to prevail.
I wouldn't call what I say rude but truth being told in the only way that some people can understand. Polite speech goes over the head of some here. (Peggy, 6 January 2019 00:55)

"The Lord within her is righteous; he does no wrong. Morning by morning he dispenses his justice, and every new day he does not fail, yet the unrighteous know no shame." (Zephaniah 3:5)

JS’ “personal compulsions” can’t cloak his ultranationalism. Thank you for reiterating your sham Serbian residency.

PS: Meteorologically, there is no one homogenous temperature in a region as vast as Siberia. Your delusion about owning (fake) farms in Serbia has obviously deteriorated your grasp of elementary world geography.
(Zhukov, 6 January 2019 16:39)

Your tactic is to repeat back at the messenger the thing for which you are guilty.

Please humor me and explain how I could possibly be an ultra-nationalist. I am really looking forward to your explanation!

Your hatred for Serbs and Serbia is obvious in comments such as your proposterous rant that the current state of Serbian medicine resembles the 1700s. Or is your ultranationalist delusional mind so polluted with your own lies that you now deny your own rants?
JS,: your lies, fake farms and repeated reference to sham Serbian residency don’t hide your hate.
(Zhukov, 7 January 2019 15:51)

Can't do any better than that?

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.

njegos: "If Kosovo has an issue with CEFTA, why did it take nearly 6 years for them to say so?"

Ugh, genius, US was a part of NAFTA for 25 years, before Trump came along and put tariffs on Mexico and Canada. Any day is a good day to fix UNMIK's mistakes. And Serbia was fully aware of the Kosova's complaints on the discriminatory practices that Serbia has in place against Kosovar exports. Free trade presupposes fair trade; you want to play dirty games, then pay 100% tariffs.


njegos: "Now, tell me where does the Brussels agreement conflict with the Kosovo constitution?"

Are you on medication man? Who's on third? You asked me where does the Brussels agreement say that the ZSO has to be in line with Kosova's constitution, and I told you where. If you want to create an Association that is in line with the existing statute of the Assoc of Kosova municipalities, go ahead, who's stopping you. But the competencies that you want for the ZSO are not in line with Kosova's constitution like the Brussels agreement had a provision for. Get it now? Should I draw a picture?


njegos: "And regarding your comment about not wanting to discuss your family's past: why was it OK for you to refer to me derogatorily as a Chetnik several posts ago"

Because you yourself started bragging that your family had fought with the Chetniks. I never volunteered to share with you anything about my family, despite all your pestering.

njegos: "Come on, everyone knows that the reason for the tariffs and thus, Kosovo's breaking the CEFTA agreement, is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo."

Sure! And the trigger for it was Serbia's aggressive campaign at the Interpol and giving weapons to island states to withdraw recognitions of Kosova. Trade implies at least a minimum of amicability. If Serbia is going to be aggressively hostile towards Kosova, it affects other things one of which is trade. CEFTA has not worked out so well for Kosova, and that's why it was an easy target for govt of Kosova to slap tariffs. If Serbia is going to block Kosova's products because they don't say "Made in UNMIK", then go sell your products to UNMIK, what's the problem here? Kosova tolerated Serbia's behavior up until this toleration made no sense anymore.

Regarding ZSO, it seems we both agree that it has to be in line with the existing Kosova's law on associations of municipalities, as stated in the Brussels agreement. Cool? Fantastic! Now go and create it based on that law. Enough running around in circles about it.

njegos: "If, and when you want to reopen the discussion about WWII, start by telling me what role in the Balli Kombater your family had. "

Look, man, this is simple: You want to defend the Chetniks because your family fought with them, go ahead; I never said anything about your family. And I never defended Balli, what's your reason for dragging my family into this? Desperation? Lack of any other arguments? The njegos indicator?
And I can not possibly capitulate in a battle I never engaged in. I told you, my family is not a topic of public discussion. You want to discuss Chetniks or Balli, or whatever, go ahead, but don't bring in your grandfather, aunts, uncles, cats, and dogs because no one cares. And don't demand that others bring theirs too.

JS, your credit and words are worthless.
The only point conveyed was that you virtually traveled to visit the MediaGroup website and read the name of a Macedonian doctor.
This doctor, as all staff doctors at MediGroup, were trained and accredited in Serbia....in state medical facilities that you lie are in the 1700s.
JS, your “personal compulsions” and virtual website travels from your “three (fake) Serbian farms” can not hide your lies and hatred.
(Zhukov, 8 January 2019 22:28)

Virtual travel is pure speculation. You can't properly assess that from your desk in Siberia!

Everyone who actually lives in Serbia knows the state of our state medical facilities.

And my three fake farms. I guess they were also fake plowed this fall!

Lies, from the Siberian speculator....

And, finally, hatred. Yep, uh huh. Any more empty accusations you would like to toss my way while you are at it? Please, share. You, like the other ultranationalists, keep showing us your personal compulsions. Please, keep embarrassing yourself in public. We are enjoying every moment of it!

Here is my advice for the confused Serbs:

1. Withdraw your application to join the EU.

2. Revert all the changes to pre-EU- application situation in Serbia

3. Apply for the membership in the Russian Federation and wait for 5 minutes for Putin's NIET.

4. Send your toothless army to take Kosova back.

5. Count to 10.

6. Establish your new border with Albanians in Kruševac.

7. Wait for 10 years.

8. Establish new border between the Albanians and Hungarians on the Danube.

Vulinovic, It is not Greater Albania yet the Albanian Nation Is indeed Great!
It is called NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years, it has surly existed way before your ancestors made there way here originated from the Caucasus, we have been here way before the arrival of the Turkish hordes who we fought off for decades, we even predate The Romans which our dear queen TEUTA fought defiantly and stamped out their names into the pages of history,, why my historical writings put the Albanian nation here on this very land predating the ancient Greeks by at least 1000 years!!!!
Natural Albanian can be compared to something’s like the Himalayas, The Alps, Mt Figi, Mt Everest, The Sahara, maybe even compared to a continent! Something that has been here since the earliest days of human evolution itself!
This is the true meaning of Natural Albanian something you like to refer to as Greater 🇦🇱 Albania 🇦🇱!!!
(PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS, 3 January 2019 15:05

The only NATURAL-ALBANIAN is a TURK! Your DNA, your appearance, your religion, ALL TURKISH. Back to ANATOLIA with you people - then, and only then, will there be peace in the BALKANS. Leave it to US indigenous people to figure out our own problems. You can go back to ALBANIA or ANATOLIA and no one would miss you. SERBS=Illyrians, got it....

😂 LOL, WHAT GIBBERISH FROM THE MAN IN BLACK!

Vulinovic, It is not Greater Albania yet the Albanian Nation Is indeed Great!
It is called NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years, it has surly existed way before your ancestors made there way here originated from the Caucasus, we have been here way before the arrival of the Turkish hordes who we fought off for decades, we even predate The Romans which our dear queen TEUTA fought defiantly and stamped out their names into the pages of history,, why my historical writings put the Albanian nation here on this very land predating the ancient Greeks by at least 1000 years!!!!
Natural Albanian can be compared to something’s like the Himalayas, The Alps, Mt Figi, Mt Everest, The Sahara, maybe even compared to a continent! Something that has been here since the earliest days of human evolution itself!
This is the true meaning of Natural Albanian something you like to refer to as Greater 🇦🇱 Albania 🇦🇱!!!

Another day, another wave of complaints by insecure serbia. Get used Serbia, Kosova CAN do whatever they want and them joining Albania is none of your damn business.

Another one needs sending in the frontline to claim "its Kosovo territory"...Serbia should send these type of 'hardliners' as they are tired of life.

than withdraw application for EU integration and join dictatorship russia. Europe doesnt give a **** about serb idiocracy

The correct question would be: Does EU need this serbia?

Chi, how can you be indigenous people, you came to the Balkans in the 7th century AD.

Search for Albanopolis - the city of the Albanians - that has existed at least since 7th century BC. That's 14 centuries before your barbaric hordes descended into the Balkans.

From Rocky: " NATURAL-ALBANIA a entity which has existed in this part of Europe for 1000s & 1000s Of Years,..."

HAHAHA!!! Says who Rocky?? You?? Who are you?? Some bone head anonymously pounding away at his computer. Please give us your credentials as a Balkan historian please. Where did you go to school? What are your degrees? What have you had published? Until you answer these questions Rocky, you're just another loudmouth Albanian with too much time on his hands....probably unemployed and sponging off of the gov't. like most of your countrymen.

Vulin,
The EU has spoken, but you were too dense to understand. The EU generally responds to Serbia by expelling noxious gas from its collective rectum.

EU hangs the option of Serbia joining the EU just to have them behave like normal people as they know Serbia can go back to their criminal true self. Serbia will never be accepted in EU because of their corrupt government and the lack of human rights that exists in the country.

@ peter rocky mountain troll

Serbs are indigenous to this region these are our lands. albanians on the other hand originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey). This is the truth stop spreading lies every day here go get a real job.

Mary, don't mind njegos, it's a reflex for him that whenever he loses a debate, he retorts to personal insults.
The debate is over his head, he can't come up with any other arguments, and like clockwork, personal attacks come out.
I call this the njegos indicator. He knows it himself that he has lost whenever the indicator turns on.
Watch when he will start attacking me and asking about my relatives during WWII. It won't make sense, but it's njegos in his full glory.

Where else are you going to go? Join African Union. Funny how you never said no to all that free money coming from EU, all these years.

From Mary: "That’s what I like about you, njegos, always objective and unassuming. I’m sure you feel yourself too important to present your credentials, as you demand of others."

Wrong Mary. If you were paying attention to my comments over time, you'd realize that I do not make unsubstantiated claims that are without substance and unverifiable like the Albanian contingent on this forum does ad nauseam. Anyone can make wild claims that they're descendants of this or that and that they were the first to inhabit an area, so on and so forth. But to have any believability one must back their statements up with reasearchable and verifiable evidence from credible sources. Otherwise, it doesn't mean anything. And if the claims that Rocky and his pals are making were true, why wouldn't there be any credible historians out there that support this. Since you seem to be Rocky's defender Mary, perhaps you'll come back with evidence to support his claims. Until then, consider yourself another wannabe revisionist who is long on brash statements but short on facts. Bye, bye Mary.

Njegos @ 16:05 3 Jan.

That’s what I like about you, njegos, always objective and unassuming. I’m sure you feel yourself too important to present your credentials, as you demand of others.

Slavic Serbian,..your origin drives from mother Russia

Nothing insulting,..just be proud

No wonder your language and relationship between Serbia and Russia it’s so close 🤔

You stupid propaganda against ancient Illyrians today Albanians doesn’t work anymore

DNA test proves Albanians are Ancient Greeks which mean ( Illyrian)
Every single Albanian is testifying there roots all over YouTube ,..and results are astonishing more Ancient Greeks than now days Greeks living in Greece

Serbia game over,...just seat back and relax

Illyria will raise back a again

Serbia stay with the EU rather than a dictator. Cheers!
(WestSwan, 4 January 2019 08:16)
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Who are you trying to trick?
EU is run by unelected dictators. Serbia has democratic elections.
Go and try to sell that swamp to your brethren Albanians.

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
1000 years and no physical gene exchange? Nationalists you could be really the products of 1000s and 1000s of years of incest. :D
And even better you guys live in USA, Australia, New Zealand anywhere than in the balkan. Take care of you children so far away they could mix up fast with 'others' and your grandchildren will not care about balkan problems at all nor will they speak the language.

Europe doesnt give a **** about serb idiocracy
(bert, 3 January 2019 16:19)

no one cares about a troll.

I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan? You and your albanian brothers in mind from god knows where think so much about the region but would not dare to live here.
(Tito reloaded, 4 January 2019 12:21)
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So you don't care about your ancestors but you want to tell me who my are.
Also, why do you change the subject? Who was talking about where I live or should live?
Again, it's none of your business just like who my ancestors are.

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
1000 years and no physical gene exchange? Nationalists you could be really the products of 1000s and 1000s of years of incest. :D
And even better you guys live in USA, Australia, New Zealand anywhere than in the balkan. Take care of you children so far away they could mix up fast with 'others' and your grandchildren will not care about balkan problems at all nor will they speak the language. (Tito reloaded, 3 January 2019 16:29)

Yes, it's interesting how the nationalists children are almost inevitably mixing with those godless Americans, Brits, and Australians while they forever try to teach us about the evils of those terrible people. Hilarious!

@Peggy... Serbia has fair elections !

Why are there tens of thousands of Serbs protesting each day about the corruption and Vucic’s dictatorship.

So you don't care about your ancestors but you want to tell me who my are.
Also, why do you change the subject? Who was talking about where I live or should live?
Again, it's none of your business just like who my ancestors are.
(Peggy)
oh Peggy, why you get so emotional? You live your lovely life in a western society, enjoy it and do not bodder with issues from a place you do not live.
I would be worried about your children as they could get married to none serbs, maybe even with albanians or a person from a NATO state.
You and several other people here look like classical 2nd or 3rd generation, that are foreigners in their residence country and foreigners in the country of their parents/grandparent. And sometimes this people try to compensate this with exaggerated nationalism.

You and several other people here look like classical 2nd or 3rd generation, that are foreigners in their residence country and foreigners in the country of their parents/grandparent. And sometimes this people try to compensate this with exaggerated nationalism.
(Tito reloaded, 4 January 2019 15:37)

I think that deep down inside they know it is inconsistent to live in the West and absorb western culture while continually trash talking the West. As a result they wax worse and worse. It is a compulsion.

I don't find any of the locals here in southern Serbia suffering from the same condition. Instead, they complain about corruption in the political regime.

It is so obvious that our resident ultranationalists are actually not faithful nationalists at all but foreigners suffering from a personal compulsion.

Chi: "Now, as far as Serbs go, we CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY in the 5-6th century.... I would venture to say that we were a pagan people, like most of the region at this time, and thus indigenous. I really can't explain this better, or anymore"

You mean, you can't polish that turd any more, because it will always be a turd.
It's a well known, recorded historical fact that the Slavs came into the Balkans during the barbaric invasions, in the 6th and 7th centuries. There were no Slavs in the Balkans before that. Serbs were introduced to Christianity in the mid 7th century, but not fully Christianized until the time of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) as attested by Constantine Porphyrogenitus.
By contrast, Christianity was introduced in the Balkans in the 1st century by St Paul who established a church in Durres ("From Jerusalem all the way to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ" (Romans 15:19)) St Asti, was bishop of Durres, and killed in 98 AD. Martyrs St Flori and Lauri, were killed for building a Christian church in Ulpiana, today's Lipjan in the 2nd century. Bishops from Dardania, Macedonia, Pannonia were part of the first Ecumenical Council in Nicea in 325 AD and Council of Sardica, 343 AD.
The Balkans, as part of the Byzantine Empire, were fully Christianized by the 5-6 century AD. The fact that the Serbs were pagans, means that they came from outside the Empire, i.e outside of Balkans.

Chi: "that the Albanians came into existence in Europe around the 15th century."

Wrong, Albanoi are mentioned by Ptolemy in 150 AD and also Albanoi are mentioned by the Byzantine historian Attaliates in 1043, in the same geographic area.

Where else are you going to go? Join African Union. Funny how you never said no to all that free money coming from EU, all these years.
(Avni, 3 January 2019 18:43)
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EU is consistently showing itself to be Serbia's enemy. It's not European people, but the unelected band of tyrants who are the enemy.
Why should Serbia join such an organisation? So that they can control Serbia even more?
As far as receiving money, well if the wish to give, Serbia will take.
Simple. Who says no to free money, your mob certainly doesn't.

Most of Serbs are against joining EU so the government should listen.

From Albanopolis: "Mary, don't mind njegos, it's a reflex for him that whenever he loses a debate, he retorts to personal insults."

HAHA! Albanopolis, please tell me how I can lose a debate when I've answered every one of your questions, with verifiable sources to back up my statements, yet you run away from my questions? Is this some kind of Albanian logic? It must be, because your leaders sign agreements, ie, Brussels, CEFTA, etc. with no intention of ever living up to their commitments. Do you see a similar pattern?

You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site. So let's see. we can sum up Albanopolis like this: Runs away from question he doesn't like, never provides sources to back up his wild claims, resorts to using profanity when his buttons are pushed and I almost forgot, gets mad when I mention that his relatives fought for the Balli Kombater during WWII. Did I miss anything Albanopolis?

It's disgusting to read some of the comments made by people. Serbia stay with the EU rather than a dictator. Cheers!

It is so obvious that our resident ultranationalists are actually not faithful nationalists at all but foreigners suffering from a personal compulsion.
(JS, 4 January 2019 17:03)

There is no greater example of “a foreigner(s) suffering from a personal compulsion” than JS himself.
JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency.

Serbia may find itself left behind if it doesn't strive join the EU.

You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.
(Peggy)
I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan? You and your albanian brothers in mind from god knows where think so much about the region but would not dare to live here.

one again serbia displaying anti European values and threatening to use force on his neighbors. its time for europe to suspend all EU integration process for serbia

Njegos @. 19:41

But of course, Njegos, your credentials speak for themself, as do those of sj... wink, wink. It certainly makes sense to believe in the word of those whose ancestors came from the big island’s penal colony.

Chi, how can you be indigenous people, you came to the Balkans in the 7th century AD.

Search for Albanopolis - the city of the Albanians - that has existed at least since 7th century BC. That's 14 centuries before your barbaric hordes descended into the Balkans.
(Albanopolis, 3 January 2019 21:06)

Albo buddy. let me set the record straight for you people for the 100th time. For arguments sake, I'll give you the 7th century, but as we all know, deep down inside, that the Albanians came into existence in Europe around the 15th century. If you examine this closely, it fits in with the history of the Balkans. Now, as far as Serbs go, we CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY in the 5-6th century. This doesn't mean that Christ came back and just dropped us off from heaven (however, very possible in that area during this time, it means that we were there from the beginning. I would venture to say that we were a pagan people, like most of the region at this time, and thus indigenous. I really can't explain this better, or anymore. If you need to copy and paste this into a folder for future reference, please do, I give you permission. We good now?!?!

@PETER THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS: and still you can be sure that you, ari,... have slavic ancesters too, like peggy, sj,... have for sure albanian ancesters too.
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Tito reloaded,
You better quit telling me who my ancestors are.
You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.

.... DNA test proves Albanians are Ancient Greeks which mean ( Illyrian)
Every single Albanian is testifying there roots all over YouTube ,..and results are astonishing more Ancient Greeks than now days Greeks living in Greece....

(DielliArt, 4 January 2019 04:43)

Wait, wut?

DNA tests can in fact show whether you have Illyrian blood running through your veins, however that will require LOTS of DNA sampling, in other words ALL the Albs worldwide. Right?

Companies that sell DNA tests take some DNA from persons of particular descent and analyse their genetics which are usually closely related. That way companies create an e.g “Anglo-Saxon” classification or a “Greek” or perhaps even a certain African tribe classification. However, doing this costs loads of money.

You do know that is costs between $200,- and $250,- for 1 single serious test. Right?

And in order to find the genetics of the Illyrians, you will need the DNA of Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs as we are 100% sure that the Hrvat and Sorb Slavic tribes mixed with the indigenous Illyrians after their arrival to the Balkan peninsula. Contemporary companies do not want to spend a lot of money and just call their pre-Slavic Balkan classification “Balkan” or even “Greek” or “Italy/Greece.”

So tell me, Every single Alb has paid serious money for such a test?

oh Peggy, why you get so emotional? You live your lovely life in a western society, enjoy it and do not bodder with issues from a place you do not live.
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There you go again thinking you can lecture me. I don't need advice from the likes of you.
I wans't getting emotional. I was only exposing your meddling and thinking that you know about people you have no idea about. Then you go and change the subject and want to discuss where I live.
That wasn't emotion. That was a GOTCHA. You can't stick to the subject because you aren't intelligent enough so you then have to divert and ask questions abut something not even associated with what we discussing.

You have no right to dismiss our opinions let alone for the reasons of where we live or question our loyalty to our brothers and sisters all over the world.
Now if you wish to discuss the topic at hand go ahead but don't try to play a smartarse and devalue our opinions by devaluing us for any reason.
Again, not emotion, just a note that your ability to discuss without you showing emotion and smartarse tactics is lacking.

njegos: "It must be, because your leaders sign agreements, ie, Brussels, CEFTA, etc. with no intention of ever living up to their commitments"

Njegos, CEFTA was signed by UNMIK, and probably they didn't give a crap of what they were signing because they were on a 6-month contract. As for the Brussels agreements, Serbia also has not fulfilled several signed agreements: the energy agreement, the recognition of diplomas and cadastre registers. As for the ZSO, the agreement contained a clause that it had to be within Kosova's constitution, and the Constitutional Court rejected the agreement.

njegos: "You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site."
Really, you're talking about profanity on this site? How about outright bigotry from the Serb side, is that OK by you? And I'm sure you're not a white lily either.

"Runs away from question he doesn't like" - Which one? My family is not a topic of public discussion, so what other questions do you have njegos?
"Never provides sources to back up his wild claims" - When?
"gets mad when I mention that his relatives fought for the Balli Kombater during WWII" - Wrong, my family did not fight for Balli Kombetar and you know you're making up crap because you have nothing else to say. So stick to the topics, not to my family, or is the njegos indicator going off again?

Peggy I really try to figure out the subject change.
You wrote 'Tito reloaded,
You better quit telling me who my ancestors are.
You don't even know who your ancestor are let alone mine.'
I answered you on that 'I know my parents and grandparents and in general I do not care. I am not defined by my ancesters.' Actually you quit immediatly on that topic by telling me I shall quit talking about you ancesters. ;)
Why do you not come back and live with us at the balkan?' I gave you a clear answer that as often you do not understand. And I opened the chapter, why 'serbs' and 'albanians' that are living anywhere than in the balkan think so much about it.
You really got me not understanding your mind as I do not understand albanians and serbs that prefer to live abroad but still do like it is so important for them to be a good albanian or serbian.
You stopped the discussion about ancesters, after my answer. Let us go further with it. Do you think you are 100% without any ancesters that an albanian, croatian, bosnian has? I do believe that I have for sure if I go far enough back.
Further I would also not blame Vucic or Thacis children for their fathers doings, as the define themself as every individual does.
But it is nice that you defend your albanian and serbian brothers that like to think in nationalities even if they live anywhere else than here and some might even not have an albanian or serbian citizenship.

These ultranationalists are always talking about war. They have no understanding of God's instructions. For example, Isaiah 30:15:

“In returning and rest you shall be saved; In quietness and confidence shall be your strength.”

Ultranationalists don't understand the strength of quietness and confidence in the face of an advancing army. Contrary to God's instructions, the Israelites fled to Egypt:

But you would not, And you said, “No, for we will flee on horses”— Therefore you shall flee! And, “We will ride on swift horses”— Therefore those who pursue you shall be swift! (v. 16)

Because they disobeyed the Almighty, he caused the Assyrian horses to pursue them with speed and strength.

They, like our resident ultranationalists, "are a rebellious people" (Isaiah 30:9) and "scoffers" (29:20) who do not understand meekness but turn everything upside down (29:16) and have no understanding of Isaiah's visions (29:9-12).

@Ratko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanoi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serboi

Peggy, Peggy,Peggy. You can be very rude at times. I read your comments here & there and well, geeez girl...do you slap everyone in the face. Common sense should prevail. Cheers & have a xxxx on me.

There is no greater example of “a foreigner(s) suffering from a personal compulsion” than JS himself.

JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency. (Zhukov, 5 January 2019 12:53)

My response? To kick my feet up on a chair, lean against a warm radiator, and drink a cold cup of Cockta. Greetings from Serbia!

PS - What's the temperature today in Siberia?

Peggy, Peggy,Peggy. You can be very rude at times. I read your comments here & there and well, geeez girl...do you slap everyone in the face. Common sense should prevail. Cheers & have a xxxx on me.
(WestSwan, 5 January 2019 01:52)
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Some people need a good slap in the face for common sense to prevail.
I wouldn't call what I say rude but truth being told in the only way that some people can understand. Polite speech goes over the head of some here.

When Pristina introduce taxes of 100 percent, the EU says that Albanians will reduce them a little to continue the dialogue with Belgrade, and "put us into the same basket."

This part of the translation makes no sense.



Sincerely,

From Albanopolis: "Njegos, CEFTA was signed by UNMIK,"

Correct Albanopolis, UNMIK signed the agreement on behalf of Kosovo. If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time? You're really reaching here.

More from Albanolopis: "...the agreement contained a clause that it had to be within Kosova's constitution..."

Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist. It was only well after Kosovo's leaders signed the agreement that they came up with the excuse that it conflicts with Kosovo's constitution. If that were true, they should have know that when they signed the agreement. I'll wait for your posting of the clause you're referring to. I say you're a LIAR!


More in my next post

From Albanopolis: "njegos: "You've even resorted to using profanity toward me on this site."
"Really, you're talking about profanity on this site? How about outright bigotry from the Serb side, is that OK by you? And I'm sure you're not a white lily either."

I am not responsible for what others say on this site, only myself. Following your convoluted logic, I should then hold you responsible for what degenerates like Azir says on behalf of the Albanians. This is a guy who celebrates the Jasenovac concentration camp and the annihilation of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies there. Do you want to go down that road Albanopolis?

"Runs away from question he doesn't like" - Which one?

Let's start with your comment about the clause stating that the Brussels agreement must comply with the Kosovo constitution. You're a LIAR!

"My family is not a topic of public discussion"

Why? Aren't you a proud Albanian?

I guess if my relatives fought with the Nazis, I would be ashamed too.

The Balkans, as part of the Byzantine Empire, were fully Christianized by the 5-6 century AD. The fact that the Serbs were pagans, means that they came from outside the Empire, i.e outside of Balkans.
(Albanopolis, 4 January 2019 19:54

Albo, please reread this and tell me what's wrong. I'm trying to help you so you don't sound stupid - this statement, at best, ridiculous. Thanks,

Some people need a good slap in the face for common sense to prevail.
I wouldn't call what I say rude but truth being told in the only way that some people can understand. Polite speech goes over the head of some here. (Peggy, 6 January 2019 00:55)

"The Lord within her is righteous; he does no wrong. Morning by morning he dispenses his justice, and every new day he does not fail, yet the unrighteous know no shame." (Zephaniah 3:5)

njegos: "If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time?"

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?


njegos: "Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist."

- There it is njegos: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities". The ZSO that you want falls outside of the existing statue of the Association of Kosova municipalities, that's why the Constitutional Court stroke it down.


"My family is not a topic of public discussion"; njegos: "Why?"

- Because I'm not going to make them a topic of public discussion, dummy. I'm not interested in your family history either, btw.

njegos: "If Kosovo has an issue with CEFTA, why did it take nearly 6 years for them to say so?"

Ugh, genius, US was a part of NAFTA for 25 years, before Trump came along and put tariffs on Mexico and Canada. Any day is a good day to fix UNMIK's mistakes. And Serbia was fully aware of the Kosova's complaints on the discriminatory practices that Serbia has in place against Kosovar exports. Free trade presupposes fair trade; you want to play dirty games, then pay 100% tariffs.


njegos: "Now, tell me where does the Brussels agreement conflict with the Kosovo constitution?"

Are you on medication man? Who's on third? You asked me where does the Brussels agreement say that the ZSO has to be in line with Kosova's constitution, and I told you where. If you want to create an Association that is in line with the existing statute of the Assoc of Kosova municipalities, go ahead, who's stopping you. But the competencies that you want for the ZSO are not in line with Kosova's constitution like the Brussels agreement had a provision for. Get it now? Should I draw a picture?


njegos: "And regarding your comment about not wanting to discuss your family's past: why was it OK for you to refer to me derogatorily as a Chetnik several posts ago"

Because you yourself started bragging that your family had fought with the Chetniks. I never volunteered to share with you anything about my family, despite all your pestering.

JS, you are a liar.
Check that-
JS, you are a bad liar who has access to the internet and can look up a web site for a private medical clinic in Belgrade.
You’ve never been to MediGroup and you don’t know anything about medical facilities in Serbia.
If you had been to MediGroup, you would have been treated by health care professionals who were trained and accredited in a Serbian Medical Faculty and state teaching hospital. Yes JS, the MediGroup staff were trained in the same teaching hospitals that you write are in 1700s.
I have been to Serbia. I do know about Serbian medical science.
You, on the other hand, have stupidly surfed a MediGroup web site and you don’t know what you are talking about. (Zhukov, 8 January 2019 13:49)

I need to give you credit for getting the point that I travelled the entire way from southern Serbia to Belgrade to be treated in a normal health facility because the state health facilities are in terrible condition. This is a no-brainer for anyone from Serbia but being a foreigner I applaud you for realizing this.

I am not only a liar but a "bad liar"....wow! oh wow! :)

It is below me to prove that I did something that I have done several times. So, if you think I'm a liar that's your own problem.

PS - The last time I was treated at MediGroup, the doctor was Macedonian, not Serbian, and he is a university professor.

@Ratko
[link]

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(Dardania'Alb, 4 January 2019 07:12)

@Alb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

But it is nice that you defend your albanian and serbian brothers that like to think in nationalities even if they live anywhere else than here and some might even not have an albanian or serbian citizenship.
(Tito reloaded, 6 January 2019 08:46
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Let me sum it up nicely for you.
Just because I live outside Serbia or any Serbian lands doesn't mean that Serbs are not in my heart wherever I am.
Maybe it works differently for you but not for me.
My choice where I was going to be brought up and live was not up to me and I have build a life for myself and my children elsewhere but the blood that runs through my veins is Serbian as it is in my children and they know it.
Also, I have helped Serbs during the war of the 90s in a few different ways including financially.
Would you tell me that I shouldn't've done that because I "choose" to live outside Serbia? Will you expect me to uproot and force my children to come with me to Serbia when none of us have lived there?
Many Serb men from Australia have gone to the former Yugoslavia and fought side by side with their brethren even though many were not born there.
Should they have not?
Don't eve tell me that I or anyone else should stop loving and caring for Serbia because I "choose" to live elsewhere. How dare you.

njegos: "If Kosovo authorities had an issue with UNMIK signing on their behalf, why didn't they express their dissatisfaction at that time?"

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?


njegos: "Please post that clause Albvanoloplis. You can't because it doesn't exist."

- There it is njegos: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities". The ZSO that you want falls outside of the existing statue of the Association of Kosova municipalities, that's why the Constitutional Court stroke it down.


"My family is not a topic of public discussion"; njegos: "Why?"

- Because I'm not going to make them a topic of public discussion, dummy. I'm not interested in your family history either, btw.

JS’ “personal compulsions” can’t cloak his ultranationalism. Thank you for reiterating your sham Serbian residency.

PS: Meteorologically, there is no one homogenous temperature in a region as vast as Siberia. Your delusion about owning (fake) farms in Serbia has obviously deteriorated your grasp of elementary world geography.
(Zhukov, 6 January 2019 16:39)

Your tactic is to repeat back at the messenger the thing for which you are guilty.

Please humor me and explain how I could possibly be an ultra-nationalist. I am really looking forward to your explanation!

Your hatred for Serbs and Serbia is obvious in comments such as your proposterous rant that the current state of Serbian medicine resembles the 1700s. Or is your ultranationalist delusional mind so polluted with your own lies that you now deny your own rants?
JS,: your lies, fake farms and repeated reference to sham Serbian residency don’t hide your hate.
(Zhukov, 7 January 2019 15:51)

Can't do any better than that?

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.

njegos: "Come on, everyone knows that the reason for the tariffs and thus, Kosovo's breaking the CEFTA agreement, is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo."

Sure! And the trigger for it was Serbia's aggressive campaign at the Interpol and giving weapons to island states to withdraw recognitions of Kosova. Trade implies at least a minimum of amicability. If Serbia is going to be aggressively hostile towards Kosova, it affects other things one of which is trade. CEFTA has not worked out so well for Kosova, and that's why it was an easy target for govt of Kosova to slap tariffs. If Serbia is going to block Kosova's products because they don't say "Made in UNMIK", then go sell your products to UNMIK, what's the problem here? Kosova tolerated Serbia's behavior up until this toleration made no sense anymore.

Regarding ZSO, it seems we both agree that it has to be in line with the existing Kosova's law on associations of municipalities, as stated in the Brussels agreement. Cool? Fantastic! Now go and create it based on that law. Enough running around in circles about it.

njegos: "If, and when you want to reopen the discussion about WWII, start by telling me what role in the Balli Kombater your family had. "

Look, man, this is simple: You want to defend the Chetniks because your family fought with them, go ahead; I never said anything about your family. And I never defended Balli, what's your reason for dragging my family into this? Desperation? Lack of any other arguments? The njegos indicator?
And I can not possibly capitulate in a battle I never engaged in. I told you, my family is not a topic of public discussion. You want to discuss Chetniks or Balli, or whatever, go ahead, but don't bring in your grandfather, aunts, uncles, cats, and dogs because no one cares. And don't demand that others bring theirs too.

JS, your credit and words are worthless.
The only point conveyed was that you virtually traveled to visit the MediaGroup website and read the name of a Macedonian doctor.
This doctor, as all staff doctors at MediGroup, were trained and accredited in Serbia....in state medical facilities that you lie are in the 1700s.
JS, your “personal compulsions” and virtual website travels from your “three (fake) Serbian farms” can not hide your lies and hatred.
(Zhukov, 8 January 2019 22:28)

Virtual travel is pure speculation. You can't properly assess that from your desk in Siberia!

Everyone who actually lives in Serbia knows the state of our state medical facilities.

And my three fake farms. I guess they were also fake plowed this fall!

Lies, from the Siberian speculator....

And, finally, hatred. Yep, uh huh. Any more empty accusations you would like to toss my way while you are at it? Please, share. You, like the other ultranationalists, keep showing us your personal compulsions. Please, keep embarrassing yourself in public. We are enjoying every moment of it!

- Do you even know what you are talking about? CEFTA was signed in 2007, Kosova became independent in 2008. You said that "your leaders signed CEFTA with no intention of living up to the commitments". Who of our leaders signed CEFTA, njegos?

Alboapolis, you didn't sign shit because you're a puppet state. Your so called allies signed it for you. You're NOT a real country, nor will you be anytime soon....

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.
(JS, 7 January 2019 16:35
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Isn't Belgrade in Serbia?

It isn't my fault that you haven't been to Serbia to see the state of the medical facilities. It's so bad that I go to MediGroup in Belgrade when I need to see a doctor.

If you ever come to Serbia, you will see.
(JS, 7 January 2019 16:35)

JS, you are a liar.
Check that-
JS, you are a bad liar who has access to the internet and can look up a web site for a private medical clinic in Belgrade.
You’ve never been to MediGroup and you don’t know anything about medical facilities in Serbia.
If you had been to MediGroup, you would have been treated by health care professionals who were trained and accredited in a Serbian Medical Faculty and state teaching hospital. Yes JS, the MediGroup staff were trained in the same teaching hospitals that you write are in 1700s.
I have been to Serbia. I do know about Serbian medical science.
You, on the other hand, have stupidly surfed a MediGroup web site and you don’t know what you are talking about.

It is below me to prove that I did something that I have done several times. So, if you think I'm a liar that's your own problem.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

Exposing the lies of JS is not a problem. It’s actually quite fun. I’m having a grand time.
The only thing you do several times, is look for references to places/objects in Serbia over the internet, to lie about your Serbian residency.


PS - The last time I was treated at MediGroup, the doctor was Macedonian, not Serbian, and he is a university professor.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

All the doctors in MediGroup must be licensed in Serbia to practice in Serbia.
According to the MediGroup website, even Prof Dr. Boris Kitanoski completed his specialty examination in a Serbian state facility.... the same facilities you lie are in the 1700s.

PS: have you managed to locate an elementary school atlas to learn of the size of Siberia?

"to lie about your Serbian residency."

I'm loving it here in Serbia. You sound a little jealous...

"According to the MediGroup website, even Prof Dr. Boris Kitanoski completed his specialty examination in a Serbian state facility.... the same facilities you lie are in the 1700s." (Zhukov, 8 January 2019 17:57)

There is a difference between a faculty and a facility. Try looking it up in the English dictionary!

By the way, I applaud you for being able to look up a doctor on MediGroup's website. Your intelligence is on full display! It is knocking me over! :)

I need to give you credit for getting the point that I travelled the entire way from southern Serbia to Belgrade to be treated in a normal health facility because the state health facilities are in terrible condition. This is a no-brainer for anyone from Serbia but being a foreigner I applaud you for realizing this.
(JS, 8 January 2019 17:02)

JS, your credit and words are worthless.
The only point conveyed was that you virtually traveled to visit the MediaGroup website and read the name of a Macedonian doctor.
This doctor, as all staff doctors at MediGroup, were trained and accredited in Serbia....in state medical facilities that you lie are in the 1700s.
JS, your “personal compulsions” and virtual website travels from your “three (fake) Serbian farms” can not hide your lies and hatred.

Virtual travel is pure speculation. You can't properly assess that from your desk in Siberia!
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

No speculation, from Siberia or anywhere else, is required.
JS, your repetitive “personal compulsions” to a sham Serbian residency sufficiently reveals your lies. Serbian residents who post on B92, do not have the excessive compensatory urge to qualify their comments with the three (fake) Serbian farms they own, or the Cockta they (virtually) drink.


Everyone who actually lives in Serbia knows the state of our state medical facilities.
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

Yes they do. Which is more proof you do not live in Serbia. The facilities are underfunded, but they are not in the 1700s as blatantly lied by JS.
In the 1700s there wasn’t equipment sterilization or aseptic techniques. JS blatantly lies that such are the facilities which exist in Serbia today.
JS, you are a liar and everyone who lives, works and visits medical facilities in Serbia knows the true deficiencies and not the lies propagated by JS’ hatred.

And my three fake farms. I guess they were also fake plowed this fall!
(JS, 9 January 2019 09:54)

Your prolific posting and commenting on B92 this past fall excluded the possibility that you plowed anything but your keyboard.

You seem to be the only one around here who doesn't understand hyperbole
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

You’ve demonstrated hyperbole perfectly: It’s non-truth posted by a JS. Examples of JS’ hyperbole include Serbian medical facilities that resemble the 1700s but exaggerated by hundreds of years; or living in Serbia exaggerated by thousands of kilometers.

Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

Most of the commentators on B92 are Serbian residents.
The English language section, has a very small fraction of the total comments.
On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few hateful and lying (or hyperbolizing) Albanian ultranationalist.
JS, your posts, your “hyperboles”, and your “personal compulsions” expose you.

And I am going to tell you the thing that gets you madder than anything else but is true: I am a bigger Serb than you!
(JS, 9 January 2019 16:51)

JS, your self-diagnosed hyperboles have you living in an up-is-down, down-is-up world. Your “tells” are laughable comedy. I’m having a great time exposing your lies.
Just as your hyperbolized Serbian residency has you actually living within thousands of kilometers of Serbia, I won’t argue with your hyperbolized “bigger” assertion.
Yes, I’ll concede that you most probably exceed the weight of the average Serb or Russian by hundreds of kilograms. Your sedentary lifestyle plowing away at your three keyboards has obviously ballooned your body-mass-index.

@ Ataman --- Lenard's 'brother', JS, quotes scripture, too. Must run in the family. One's true self eventually appears regardless of the monikers. I think I'll try drinking while trolling.

JS’ self-description laughably exposes our resident KLA accomplice and ultranationalist with no less than “three (fake) farms in Serbia”, who compulsively, and excessively, refers to some sham Serbian residency. (Zhukov, 5 January 2019 12:53)

My response? To kick my feet up on a chair, lean against a warm radiator, and drink a cold cup of Cockta. Greetings from Serbia!
(JS, 5 January 2019 20:53)

JS’ “personal compulsions” can’t cloak his ultranationalism. Thank you for reiterating your sham Serbian residency.

PS: Meteorologically, there is no one homogenous temperature in a region as vast as Siberia. Your delusion about owning (fake) farms in Serbia has obviously deteriorated your grasp of elementary world geography.

Please humor me and explain how I could possibly be an ultra-nationalist. I am really looking forward to your explanation!
(JS, 7 January 2019 11:00)

Your hatred for Serbs and Serbia is obvious in comments such as your proposterous rant that the current state of Serbian medicine resembles the 1700s. Or is your ultranationalist delusional mind so polluted with your own lies that you now deny your own rants?
JS,: your lies, fake farms and repeated reference to sham Serbian residency don’t hide your hate.

Albanololis - Try to follow this, as hard as that may be for you. UNMIK signed the CEFTA agreement on behalf of Kosovo. As of 2013 Kosovo has been a part of the CEFTA agreement and therefore, are expected to abide by its guidelines. If Kosovo has an issue with CEFTA, why did it take nearly 6 years for them to say so? More slippery logic from you Albanopolis. They broke the agreement that they had been conforming to for over 6 years. Bottom line - they broke their agreement.

Here is the full clause that you conveniently failed to post re: the ZSO: "The structures of the Association/Community will be established on the same basis as the existing statute of the Association of Kosovo municipalities e.g. President, vice President, Assembly, Council."

Now, tell me where does the Brussels agreement conflict with the Kosovo constitution? You have shown me nothing thus far.

And regarding your comment about not wanting to discuss your family's past: why was it OK for you to refer to me derogatorily as a Chetnik several posts ago, yet when I question you about your family's WWII affiliation, you claim I'm out of bounds. You won't even discuss the subjects you bring up, yet you say I'm losing the debate. More Albanian logic. My advice for you is that if you're ashamed of your family's involvement in WWII, don't bring up WWII as a discussion point. Run along now and cry on your Balli Kombater grandfather's shoulder.

From Albanopolis: "Serbia was fully aware of the Kosova's complaints on the discriminatory practices that Serbia has in place against Kosovar exports. Free trade presupposes fair trade; you want to play dirty games, then pay 100% tariffs."

Come on, everyone knows that the reason for the tariffs and thus, Kosovo's breaking the CEFTA agreement, is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo. For you to portray it any other way is simply a lie, but what else is new?

Regarding the forming of the ZSO, you said that the Brussels agreement isn't in line with the Kosovo constitution. When I asked to show me this, you simply reposted the Brussels agreement. Again, I ask, where is the conflict? After all, your leadership signed it more than 6 years ago. Should be easy to point out, don't you think? stopping you. Here are your words "But the competencies that you want for the ZSO are not in line with Kosova's constitution..." What's not in line with the constitution? You still haven't shown me a thing, but again, what else is new?

Regarding WWII and your family, I never bragged about my family's role, but I am proud of their participation and when you attack the Chetniks like you did, I will respond. You opened the can of worms that you obviously no longer wish to pursue. I'll take that as capitulation. If, and when you want to reopen the discussion about WWII, start by telling me what role in the Balli Kombater your family had. Cheers!

"JS, your repetitive “personal compulsions” to a sham Serbian residency sufficiently reveals your lies. Serbian residents who post on B92, do not have the excessive compensatory urge to qualify their comments with the three (fake) Serbian farms they own, or the Cockta they (virtually) drink."

Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.

"Yes they do. Which is more proof you do not live in Serbia. The facilities are underfunded, but they are not in the 1700s as blatantly lied by JS.
In the 1700s there wasn’t equipment sterilization or aseptic techniques. JS blatantly lies that such are the facilities which exist in Serbia today.
JS, you are a liar and everyone who lives, works and visits medical facilities in Serbia knows the true deficiencies and not the lies propagated by JS’ hatred."

You seem to be the only one around here who doesn't understand hyperbole.

"Your prolific posting and commenting on B92 this past fall excluded the possibility that you plowed anything but your keyboard." (Zhukov, 9 January 2019 11:09)

As noted elsewhere, I hire locals to work for me.

From Albanopolis: "And the trigger for it was Serbia's aggressive campaign at the Interpol and giving weapons to island states to withdraw recognitions of Kosova."

You're telling fairytales again Albanopolis and you know it. The reason for the tariffs is Serbia's refusal to recognize Kosovo. Haradinaj said so! He also said that the tariffs would be lifted once Serbia granted recognition. It has nothing to do with all of the other hogwash you've spewed.

And giving weapons to island states! Again, more wild claims with no factual evidence behind them. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. In fact, judging by your previous comments, it makes them more likely to be untrue since you can't substantiate a single thing you ever say. You act like Serbia is this wealthy country that can buy favors from others for political votes. Well, where are your credible sources to support this? Nowhere as usual!!

More from Albanopolis: "Regarding ZSO, it seems we both agree that it has to be in line with the existing Kosova's law on associations of municipalities, as stated in the Brussels agreement."

You still haven't provided any evidence that the ZSO doesn't comply with the constitution of Kosovo. After all, your president signed the agreement. How could he have made such an oversight? All you have done is repost the Brussels agreement. Where is the conflict? Where is the non conformity? Since I see you're short on problem solving skills, allow me to give you a hint: Go to the Kosovo constitution and repost the specific area where the formation of the ZSO does not conform to it. My bet is that you have never even read the Kosovo constitution. It would also appear that your president didn't either!! Too funny. And you guys want people to take you seriously?

And regarding WWII. You, my friend attacked the Chetniks. That is an attack on my family. If want to enter into a debate and bring certain subjects up, you should know your audience or be prepared for the backlash. You made derogatory comments about Chetniks and I responded. I merely asked you about your family's involvement in WWII and you ran away. My advice to you is to stay away from WWII as a discussion topic. Your comments to me were personal as I've described above. And if you are that ashamed about your family's past, you should refrain from making derogatory comments about others' families. Got it?

"Most people who post on here don't live in Serbia, so they wouldn't have anything to post about.
(JS, 9 January 2019 11:57)

Most of the commentators on B92 are Serbian residents.
The English language section, has a very small fraction of the total comments."

As you are well aware, we are only talking about b92/eng. But folks like you don't mind deception, changing the context to try to make themselves look right. To set the context correctly once again, I am one of the very few on this site that actually lives in the Balkans. That's why I can regularly talk about life here, unlike the hateful ultranationalist fake Serbs who live abroad and have big mouths and ugly souls.

"On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few hateful and lying (or hyperbolizing) Albanian ultranationalist."

Let me help you fix that: 'On the English language section, the most prolific monikers and commentators are a few handfuls of hateful and lying ultranationalists. Some are Serbs, some are Albanians, and at least one is Croatian.'

And I am going to tell you the thing that gets you madder than anything else but is true: I am a bigger Serb than you!

"JS, your posts, your “hyperboles”, and your “personal compulsions” expose you. (Zhukov, 9 January 2019 15:31)

Says the person who always has a comeback!