Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something"
Aleksandar Vucic said on Tuesday after his meeting with Angela Merkel that he had "understood all messages" and would work to solve the Kosovo problem.
Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
(Moderate Serb, 1 March 2018 06:00)
I respect my opponents but what I hate the most is when the opposition comes disguised as one of my own. Get a little backbone and use you Albanian name and dont try and pass yourself off as a Serb.
Young Serbs have no stigmas and they are well aware of what went on in the 1990s mate. So go and preach your BS to your Taliban friends not to us.
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
(Victor Hugo, 28 February 2018 03:23)
@ Victor -He hasn't said he wasn't going to have a referendum!
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police.
(Lenard, 28 February 2018 19:39)
Tito of course supported Rankovic in his mass crimes. hungarian Nazi Collaborator Admiral Horthy killed thousands of Serbs who came floating down the Sava river from Vojvodina, just circle of violence that continues. The Croats showed their true colors fighting old men and women in Krajina, next time, they won't be so lucky.
The rule of law is that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Albanians from Kosovo unlawfully have taken it only for themselves and with the law of force used by those who helped them. When that happened no western democracies mentioned the rule of law.
Wow, you "lose" a questionable "10k-15k" people and you get your own country! Everybody should try it!
(Watcher, 27 February 2018 23:36)
Watcher,
Listen to yourself, do you really believe the nonsense that a certain type of Serb thrives on. Why did so many Serbs end up in the Hague, was it a conspiracy or could there be some kernel of truth to it. As long as there are Serbs like you, our children will never be free of guilt since your denial of what happened during the 1990's is overwhelmingly refuted by hundreds of eyewitnesses. All of it is documented, Serb war crimes will never be forgotten. Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police. That Serbs excel at. Just look at the 1990's do I have to say anymore. Any ways look how yore elites https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=237&v=QfkjNI5dkiM just love Croatia Hvar Island where Marko Polo home town can even visit his home. To know us is to love us.
The last two paragraphs of this B92 article are apparently contradictory. The penultimate one quotes Merkel as "the one that will prescribe what has to happen and what is the desirable thing to do."
Whereas the last paragraph quotes her:
"The initiative starts from Serbia, the president of Serbia is the main actor. We talk about it and we support things when our support is sought. But I will not be dispensing advice, especially not in the public," Merkel said.
B92 should either clarify this confusion or consult with their “Open Society” collaborators on the next steps of publishing illogic.
Sam- completely agree. They ask us to come to terms with the legacy of our past! Well, that recent legacy is serbs being genocided in Croatia and now Kosovo with no justice or even acknowledgement of the real victims of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Yes, that is difficult to come to terms with!
Their ignorance and open refusal to tell the truth of what really happened, and is happening, shames only them.
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 16:36)
Well I never!!!! I had no idea that people like Abraham Lincoln, the Kennedy brothers or James Garfield were Serbs. You learn something every day.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. But hundreds of thousands?! The only side to kill hundreds of thousands were your demented grandfathers.
have to say this and say it again
there was no genocide of the Albanians in Kosovo that is a lie and myth a narrative to blame the Serbs
i ant a serb but know it is BS and I am sick and tired of hearing it
100 freaking %
the numbers dont add up
from the greatest crime since WW2 to 500,000 then 100,000 to finally 3,000
victims all the doing of the KLA and NATO as their accomplice
the Serbs suffered the most ethically cleansed from their homeland
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
In the 2 world war many people from me family were deported or killed in Germany nazi labour camps
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Adrian, whether you are a gypsy, Serb or Jew the fate we endured was the same.
Germany is new and shiny now and in charge of Europe so we can't expect any sympathy from them, let along compensation. We can expect demands and bombs in case we don't meet the demands.
The fact that Vucic is giving this creature any time at all is a waste of time. She is willing to sell her own country out so Serbia doesn't even register for her.
If Vucic gives away any part of Kosovo in order to join a club which is on it's last legs he should be tried for treason.
Only a traitor would do this. Not even a fool would agree to such a demand.
What is he going to do when EU is no longer? Ask for Kosovo back?
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
(Albanian American, 27 February 2018 21:48)
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Yeah, we killed six million people of the same ethnic background. We had concentration camps all over Europe and we put the whole world in turmoil.
Yeah, we did exactly as Hitler did.
Are you insane or just so filled with hate that you are projecting what you want to have happened not what actually happened.
Serbia must guarantee to never attack its neighbors or risk expulsion from The Balkans.
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Azir, I've read all the other demands you have but this one is a mystery.
How do you expect Serbia to be expelled from the Balkans?
Someone going to dig up the whole country and relocate it somewhere else?
Are all the Serbs going to be run out of Serbia, is this how you expect to expel the Serbs?
Please do explain this one. I'm truly intrigued.
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
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Hey Pete, even if that were true how about you tell the Yanks the same thing. How about Australians.
Do you think it would go down like a led balloon?
When you can offer some evidence, any evidence of what you claim then do tell us that again.
You have absolutely zero evidence of your Albanian nation claims and you know it.
Put up or shut up.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
@ retard - Nope, that never came up in conversation! Try again!
According to comments Serbia was more Nazi and genocidal state than Great Britain, Germany and America all together.
Lenard, seriously, Serbia is not just willing to compromise Kosovo and Serbs from Croatia, too. We are all willing to dye. Just making camps for us again or bomb us. "Serbien muss sterben!" That was Austro-Hungarian political propaganda before the First World War when Vojvodina and Bosnia and Herzegovina was still colonised. We like poor Germans to come here to maintain "proper" European influence.
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
Entry in the EU is a carrot on a long stick. They don't want a solution either while they are exploiting natural resources and have secure military base on Kosovo and Metohija. Don't worry Germany, we'll stop wearing jogging hose!
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
When they talk about Kosovo being special, they mean its recognition is justified because it endured genocide from its previous rulers. And yes, it was ethnic cleansing, otherwise the adjoining countries wouldn’t have had an inflow of refugees, and the West couldn’t have invaded Serbia if the peace and security of its neighbors wasn’t threatened by the refugee situation that was created. On the other hand, there’s nothing special about territorial changes. If Kosovo and Serbia exchange territories, ramifications would soon be felt Bosnia and Macedonia. Claimants would use the exchange model as a precedent. Namely Serbia could claim RS, Hungary could claim Voivodina, Albania or Kosovo could claim Western Macedonia.
LOL Merkel is finished in Germany. Vucic will do anything it takes to get in her good graces, but there are literally protests everyday across Germany calling for her resignation. It's sad to see Belgrade grovel just to be pictured with world leaders. Merkel's foreign minister was just in Serbia making very disgusting demands and no one said anything. If Serbia had a responsible government, they would have told said to that rat "it's no longer 1941, go home". Serbia needs to behave more like Hungary does today.
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors".
- this must have been a doh! Vucic moment - what exactly will be left if there is no principle (as is a Presidential prerequisite) to protect first and foremost what is Serbia and its heartland and its UN sovereignty ?
Not even Tadic would have said such a preposterous statement, all first world war veterans and ancestors must be turning in their grave to know a President to say such words publicly and in presence of German chancellor! I noticed the difference of late from Dacic and its clear this gulf just widened by Vucic's strange choice of words! Dumfounded!
Balkan Brother Adrian first I am profoundly sorry to hear regarding the suffering and deaths in your past family members at the hands of Hitler ! For me I never use the tern Gypsy nor Roma, in Srbija we are all mixed in one way or another and if you could see my face then you would look into the face of the Middle East, Asia, India and Dear Mother Russia ! So I hope in Romania more humanity like me that we see the big branch's dragging behind us and not worry about the twigs other people carry on their shoulders !!!
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
(Locked Game, 27 February 2018 15:40)
I disagree. Kosovo is "special case," as the West says.
This is a repeat instead of Vulin now its Dacic, Vucic talks of tough decision and to keep nationalist in check they have one of the clowns beat the nationalist drum.
As April approaches things will get hot, new platform ....maybe Vulin is busy went to Canada to ask his Aunt for 200K$ more
Have the poor average Serbian people of the Balkans not lost enough all ready in Bosna - Herzegovin, Srpska Krajina and Srpsko Sveto Veliko Kosovo ??? What else is there to loose for the Serbian people, does Hitler want all our Christian Eastern Orthodox heads on a silver platter ??? So what about Hitler, what will USA, England and Germany loose ???
What bloody genocide? There was none. Genocide of Serbs yes, and still ongoing.
Where are all these bodies? Nowhere. They don't exist. NATO used every satellite and technology it has to find Albrights missing 100000's. They gave up a long time ago. Never found anything. The forensic teams quit in disgust at being pressured to falsify and exaggerate evidence.
Its a joke. Everyone knows the Kalbs suffered very small losses. and those were by and large terrorists and human traffickers.
A lie needs to keep moving. if it stops it dies. They have to keep parroting these blatant lies to maintain some support. Its disgusting really that the real victims are ignored in favour of a bunch of organ harvesters.
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
The compromise is about both sides gaining something. And that something is the everlasting peace. This guy keeps parroting that both sides should loose something. Ok let's get even then. We Albanians lost ten thousand people killed by you serbs and our houses and livelihood destroyed. Lets start with ten thousands serbs getting killed. The lack of shame in serbs is unbelievable.
Speaking in Berlin, Vucic said that a "difficult" road to the EU lies ahead of Serbia, that much has to be done when it comes to (accession negotiations) chapters dealing with the rule of law, but also when it comes to relations with Pristina.
Does he know how to say anything else? Ever since he was installed in government he has been repeating this over and over, how the road ahead is "difficult." NO you are the one thats "difficult.'
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
Yes we know you told her that because you are a traitor. What kind of a president says this about their country, that they want to give away their country's territory away to terrorists.
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
According to him, "it may be better if nobody is satisfied" - because there are "many difficult solutions, while for Serbia the only difficult one is that where Serbia is the only loser."
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
Secondly, we the 97% majority which inhabit The Republic Of Kosova have already paid our compromise & losses it was with the millions & millions of Euros & dollars of destruction Serbia inflicted upon Kosova during the 1990's! It was with the displacement and forced expulsions of 800.000 Albanians in the dead of winter by Serbian state sponsored policies!!!
The barbaric and systematic murders of over 10,000 innocent Albanians in a attempt to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority populous!!!
We already compromise on are end Vucic, now it's your turn to swallow that butter pill!!!
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
What bloody genocide? There was none. Genocide of Serbs yes, and still ongoing.
Where are all these bodies? Nowhere. They don't exist. NATO used every satellite and technology it has to find Albrights missing 100000's. They gave up a long time ago. Never found anything. The forensic teams quit in disgust at being pressured to falsify and exaggerate evidence.
Its a joke. Everyone knows the Kalbs suffered very small losses. and those were by and large terrorists and human traffickers.
A lie needs to keep moving. if it stops it dies. They have to keep parroting these blatant lies to maintain some support. Its disgusting really that the real victims are ignored in favour of a bunch of organ harvesters.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
Speaking in Berlin, Vucic said that a "difficult" road to the EU lies ahead of Serbia, that much has to be done when it comes to (accession negotiations) chapters dealing with the rule of law, but also when it comes to relations with Pristina.
Does he know how to say anything else? Ever since he was installed in government he has been repeating this over and over, how the road ahead is "difficult." NO you are the one thats "difficult.'
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
Yes we know you told her that because you are a traitor. What kind of a president says this about their country, that they want to give away their country's territory away to terrorists.
The compromise is about both sides gaining something. And that something is the everlasting peace. This guy keeps parroting that both sides should loose something. Ok let's get even then. We Albanians lost ten thousand people killed by you serbs and our houses and livelihood destroyed. Lets start with ten thousands serbs getting killed. The lack of shame in serbs is unbelievable.
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
According to him, "it may be better if nobody is satisfied" - because there are "many difficult solutions, while for Serbia the only difficult one is that where Serbia is the only loser."
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
Secondly, we the 97% majority which inhabit The Republic Of Kosova have already paid our compromise & losses it was with the millions & millions of Euros & dollars of destruction Serbia inflicted upon Kosova during the 1990's! It was with the displacement and forced expulsions of 800.000 Albanians in the dead of winter by Serbian state sponsored policies!!!
The barbaric and systematic murders of over 10,000 innocent Albanians in a attempt to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority populous!!!
We already compromise on are end Vucic, now it's your turn to swallow that butter pill!!!
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
have to say this and say it again
there was no genocide of the Albanians in Kosovo that is a lie and myth a narrative to blame the Serbs
i ant a serb but know it is BS and I am sick and tired of hearing it
100 freaking %
the numbers dont add up
from the greatest crime since WW2 to 500,000 then 100,000 to finally 3,000
victims all the doing of the KLA and NATO as their accomplice
the Serbs suffered the most ethically cleansed from their homeland
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. But hundreds of thousands?! The only side to kill hundreds of thousands were your demented grandfathers.
The last two paragraphs of this B92 article are apparently contradictory. The penultimate one quotes Merkel as "the one that will prescribe what has to happen and what is the desirable thing to do."
Whereas the last paragraph quotes her:
"The initiative starts from Serbia, the president of Serbia is the main actor. We talk about it and we support things when our support is sought. But I will not be dispensing advice, especially not in the public," Merkel said.
B92 should either clarify this confusion or consult with their “Open Society” collaborators on the next steps of publishing illogic.
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
(Locked Game, 27 February 2018 15:40)
I disagree. Kosovo is "special case," as the West says.
Have the poor average Serbian people of the Balkans not lost enough all ready in Bosna - Herzegovin, Srpska Krajina and Srpsko Sveto Veliko Kosovo ??? What else is there to loose for the Serbian people, does Hitler want all our Christian Eastern Orthodox heads on a silver platter ??? So what about Hitler, what will USA, England and Germany loose ???
LOL Merkel is finished in Germany. Vucic will do anything it takes to get in her good graces, but there are literally protests everyday across Germany calling for her resignation. It's sad to see Belgrade grovel just to be pictured with world leaders. Merkel's foreign minister was just in Serbia making very disgusting demands and no one said anything. If Serbia had a responsible government, they would have told said to that rat "it's no longer 1941, go home". Serbia needs to behave more like Hungary does today.
Serbia must guarantee to never attack its neighbors or risk expulsion from The Balkans.
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Azir, I've read all the other demands you have but this one is a mystery.
How do you expect Serbia to be expelled from the Balkans?
Someone going to dig up the whole country and relocate it somewhere else?
Are all the Serbs going to be run out of Serbia, is this how you expect to expel the Serbs?
Please do explain this one. I'm truly intrigued.
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 16:36)
Well I never!!!! I had no idea that people like Abraham Lincoln, the Kennedy brothers or James Garfield were Serbs. You learn something every day.
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors".
- this must have been a doh! Vucic moment - what exactly will be left if there is no principle (as is a Presidential prerequisite) to protect first and foremost what is Serbia and its heartland and its UN sovereignty ?
Not even Tadic would have said such a preposterous statement, all first world war veterans and ancestors must be turning in their grave to know a President to say such words publicly and in presence of German chancellor! I noticed the difference of late from Dacic and its clear this gulf just widened by Vucic's strange choice of words! Dumfounded!
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
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Hey Pete, even if that were true how about you tell the Yanks the same thing. How about Australians.
Do you think it would go down like a led balloon?
When you can offer some evidence, any evidence of what you claim then do tell us that again.
You have absolutely zero evidence of your Albanian nation claims and you know it.
Put up or shut up.
Sam- completely agree. They ask us to come to terms with the legacy of our past! Well, that recent legacy is serbs being genocided in Croatia and now Kosovo with no justice or even acknowledgement of the real victims of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Yes, that is difficult to come to terms with!
Their ignorance and open refusal to tell the truth of what really happened, and is happening, shames only them.
Wow, you "lose" a questionable "10k-15k" people and you get your own country! Everybody should try it!
(Watcher, 27 February 2018 23:36)
Watcher,
Listen to yourself, do you really believe the nonsense that a certain type of Serb thrives on. Why did so many Serbs end up in the Hague, was it a conspiracy or could there be some kernel of truth to it. As long as there are Serbs like you, our children will never be free of guilt since your denial of what happened during the 1990's is overwhelmingly refuted by hundreds of eyewitnesses. All of it is documented, Serb war crimes will never be forgotten. Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
This is a repeat instead of Vulin now its Dacic, Vucic talks of tough decision and to keep nationalist in check they have one of the clowns beat the nationalist drum.
As April approaches things will get hot, new platform ....maybe Vulin is busy went to Canada to ask his Aunt for 200K$ more
Balkan Brother Adrian first I am profoundly sorry to hear regarding the suffering and deaths in your past family members at the hands of Hitler ! For me I never use the tern Gypsy nor Roma, in Srbija we are all mixed in one way or another and if you could see my face then you would look into the face of the Middle East, Asia, India and Dear Mother Russia ! So I hope in Romania more humanity like me that we see the big branch's dragging behind us and not worry about the twigs other people carry on their shoulders !!!
Entry in the EU is a carrot on a long stick. They don't want a solution either while they are exploiting natural resources and have secure military base on Kosovo and Metohija. Don't worry Germany, we'll stop wearing jogging hose!
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police. That Serbs excel at. Just look at the 1990's do I have to say anymore. Any ways look how yore elites https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=237&v=QfkjNI5dkiM just love Croatia Hvar Island where Marko Polo home town can even visit his home. To know us is to love us.
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
(Albanian American, 27 February 2018 21:48)
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Yeah, we killed six million people of the same ethnic background. We had concentration camps all over Europe and we put the whole world in turmoil.
Yeah, we did exactly as Hitler did.
Are you insane or just so filled with hate that you are projecting what you want to have happened not what actually happened.
In the 2 world war many people from me family were deported or killed in Germany nazi labour camps
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Adrian, whether you are a gypsy, Serb or Jew the fate we endured was the same.
Germany is new and shiny now and in charge of Europe so we can't expect any sympathy from them, let along compensation. We can expect demands and bombs in case we don't meet the demands.
The fact that Vucic is giving this creature any time at all is a waste of time. She is willing to sell her own country out so Serbia doesn't even register for her.
If Vucic gives away any part of Kosovo in order to join a club which is on it's last legs he should be tried for treason.
Only a traitor would do this. Not even a fool would agree to such a demand.
What is he going to do when EU is no longer? Ask for Kosovo back?
When they talk about Kosovo being special, they mean its recognition is justified because it endured genocide from its previous rulers. And yes, it was ethnic cleansing, otherwise the adjoining countries wouldn’t have had an inflow of refugees, and the West couldn’t have invaded Serbia if the peace and security of its neighbors wasn’t threatened by the refugee situation that was created. On the other hand, there’s nothing special about territorial changes. If Kosovo and Serbia exchange territories, ramifications would soon be felt Bosnia and Macedonia. Claimants would use the exchange model as a precedent. Namely Serbia could claim RS, Hungary could claim Voivodina, Albania or Kosovo could claim Western Macedonia.
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police.
(Lenard, 28 February 2018 19:39)
Tito of course supported Rankovic in his mass crimes. hungarian Nazi Collaborator Admiral Horthy killed thousands of Serbs who came floating down the Sava river from Vojvodina, just circle of violence that continues. The Croats showed their true colors fighting old men and women in Krajina, next time, they won't be so lucky.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
@ retard - Nope, that never came up in conversation! Try again!
The rule of law is that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Albanians from Kosovo unlawfully have taken it only for themselves and with the law of force used by those who helped them. When that happened no western democracies mentioned the rule of law.
Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
(Moderate Serb, 1 March 2018 06:00)
I respect my opponents but what I hate the most is when the opposition comes disguised as one of my own. Get a little backbone and use you Albanian name and dont try and pass yourself off as a Serb.
Young Serbs have no stigmas and they are well aware of what went on in the 1990s mate. So go and preach your BS to your Taliban friends not to us.
According to comments Serbia was more Nazi and genocidal state than Great Britain, Germany and America all together.
Lenard, seriously, Serbia is not just willing to compromise Kosovo and Serbs from Croatia, too. We are all willing to dye. Just making camps for us again or bomb us. "Serbien muss sterben!" That was Austro-Hungarian political propaganda before the First World War when Vojvodina and Bosnia and Herzegovina was still colonised. We like poor Germans to come here to maintain "proper" European influence.
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
(Victor Hugo, 28 February 2018 03:23)
@ Victor -He hasn't said he wasn't going to have a referendum!
The compromise is about both sides gaining something. And that something is the everlasting peace. This guy keeps parroting that both sides should loose something. Ok let's get even then. We Albanians lost ten thousand people killed by you serbs and our houses and livelihood destroyed. Lets start with ten thousands serbs getting killed. The lack of shame in serbs is unbelievable.
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
According to him, "it may be better if nobody is satisfied" - because there are "many difficult solutions, while for Serbia the only difficult one is that where Serbia is the only loser."
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
Secondly, we the 97% majority which inhabit The Republic Of Kosova have already paid our compromise & losses it was with the millions & millions of Euros & dollars of destruction Serbia inflicted upon Kosova during the 1990's! It was with the displacement and forced expulsions of 800.000 Albanians in the dead of winter by Serbian state sponsored policies!!!
The barbaric and systematic murders of over 10,000 innocent Albanians in a attempt to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority populous!!!
We already compromise on are end Vucic, now it's your turn to swallow that butter pill!!!
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. But hundreds of thousands?! The only side to kill hundreds of thousands were your demented grandfathers.
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
LOL Merkel is finished in Germany. Vucic will do anything it takes to get in her good graces, but there are literally protests everyday across Germany calling for her resignation. It's sad to see Belgrade grovel just to be pictured with world leaders. Merkel's foreign minister was just in Serbia making very disgusting demands and no one said anything. If Serbia had a responsible government, they would have told said to that rat "it's no longer 1941, go home". Serbia needs to behave more like Hungary does today.
Speaking in Berlin, Vucic said that a "difficult" road to the EU lies ahead of Serbia, that much has to be done when it comes to (accession negotiations) chapters dealing with the rule of law, but also when it comes to relations with Pristina.
Does he know how to say anything else? Ever since he was installed in government he has been repeating this over and over, how the road ahead is "difficult." NO you are the one thats "difficult.'
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something," he said.
Yes we know you told her that because you are a traitor. What kind of a president says this about their country, that they want to give away their country's territory away to terrorists.
What bloody genocide? There was none. Genocide of Serbs yes, and still ongoing.
Where are all these bodies? Nowhere. They don't exist. NATO used every satellite and technology it has to find Albrights missing 100000's. They gave up a long time ago. Never found anything. The forensic teams quit in disgust at being pressured to falsify and exaggerate evidence.
Its a joke. Everyone knows the Kalbs suffered very small losses. and those were by and large terrorists and human traffickers.
A lie needs to keep moving. if it stops it dies. They have to keep parroting these blatant lies to maintain some support. Its disgusting really that the real victims are ignored in favour of a bunch of organ harvesters.
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
First of all Vucic, Kosova is ancestral land of The Illyrian/Albanian nation.. Your serbias ancestral lands lye further north situated closer to Russia and Iran!!!
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Hey Pete, even if that were true how about you tell the Yanks the same thing. How about Australians.
Do you think it would go down like a led balloon?
When you can offer some evidence, any evidence of what you claim then do tell us that again.
You have absolutely zero evidence of your Albanian nation claims and you know it.
Put up or shut up.
Have the poor average Serbian people of the Balkans not lost enough all ready in Bosna - Herzegovin, Srpska Krajina and Srpsko Sveto Veliko Kosovo ??? What else is there to loose for the Serbian people, does Hitler want all our Christian Eastern Orthodox heads on a silver platter ??? So what about Hitler, what will USA, England and Germany loose ???
When they talk about Kosovo being special, they mean its recognition is justified because it endured genocide from its previous rulers. And yes, it was ethnic cleansing, otherwise the adjoining countries wouldn’t have had an inflow of refugees, and the West couldn’t have invaded Serbia if the peace and security of its neighbors wasn’t threatened by the refugee situation that was created. On the other hand, there’s nothing special about territorial changes. If Kosovo and Serbia exchange territories, ramifications would soon be felt Bosnia and Macedonia. Claimants would use the exchange model as a precedent. Namely Serbia could claim RS, Hungary could claim Voivodina, Albania or Kosovo could claim Western Macedonia.
Vucic tells Merkel he wants "both sides to lose something" Germans lost good part of Vojvodina when 100's thousands were ethnically cleansed and murdered by the Serbs. Now Germany is willing for Serbia to lose Kosovo as a compromise.
(Lenard, 27 February 2018 19:18)
@ retard - Nope, that never came up in conversation! Try again!
Balkan Brother Adrian first I am profoundly sorry to hear regarding the suffering and deaths in your past family members at the hands of Hitler ! For me I never use the tern Gypsy nor Roma, in Srbija we are all mixed in one way or another and if you could see my face then you would look into the face of the Middle East, Asia, India and Dear Mother Russia ! So I hope in Romania more humanity like me that we see the big branch's dragging behind us and not worry about the twigs other people carry on their shoulders !!!
What hitler did in WWII , you did to Bosnia and Kosova. You not any better , so who you bs-ing?
Every time you mention Hitler you remind people about serbia ( yourselves ) ok...
(Albanian American, 27 February 2018 21:48)
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Yeah, we killed six million people of the same ethnic background. We had concentration camps all over Europe and we put the whole world in turmoil.
Yeah, we did exactly as Hitler did.
Are you insane or just so filled with hate that you are projecting what you want to have happened not what actually happened.
In the 2 world war many people from me family were deported or killed in Germany nazi labour camps
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Adrian, whether you are a gypsy, Serb or Jew the fate we endured was the same.
Germany is new and shiny now and in charge of Europe so we can't expect any sympathy from them, let along compensation. We can expect demands and bombs in case we don't meet the demands.
The fact that Vucic is giving this creature any time at all is a waste of time. She is willing to sell her own country out so Serbia doesn't even register for her.
If Vucic gives away any part of Kosovo in order to join a club which is on it's last legs he should be tried for treason.
Only a traitor would do this. Not even a fool would agree to such a demand.
What is he going to do when EU is no longer? Ask for Kosovo back?
Serbia must guarantee to never attack its neighbors or risk expulsion from The Balkans.
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Azir, I've read all the other demands you have but this one is a mystery.
How do you expect Serbia to be expelled from the Balkans?
Someone going to dig up the whole country and relocate it somewhere else?
Are all the Serbs going to be run out of Serbia, is this how you expect to expel the Serbs?
Please do explain this one. I'm truly intrigued.
have to say this and say it again
there was no genocide of the Albanians in Kosovo that is a lie and myth a narrative to blame the Serbs
i ant a serb but know it is BS and I am sick and tired of hearing it
100 freaking %
the numbers dont add up
from the greatest crime since WW2 to 500,000 then 100,000 to finally 3,000
victims all the doing of the KLA and NATO as their accomplice
the Serbs suffered the most ethically cleansed from their homeland
Vucic is a muppet under constant Russian supervision by Dacic & Vulin. He's nowhere near as powerful in Serbia as many people think. Serbia has a history of political killings and he's shit-scared for the same reason. His life is safe until he does what the Russians and Dacic tell him. Otherwise he is dispensable.
(Contractor, 27 February 2018 16:36)
Well I never!!!! I had no idea that people like Abraham Lincoln, the Kennedy brothers or James Garfield were Serbs. You learn something every day.
The last two paragraphs of this B92 article are apparently contradictory. The penultimate one quotes Merkel as "the one that will prescribe what has to happen and what is the desirable thing to do."
Whereas the last paragraph quotes her:
"The initiative starts from Serbia, the president of Serbia is the main actor. We talk about it and we support things when our support is sought. But I will not be dispensing advice, especially not in the public," Merkel said.
B92 should either clarify this confusion or consult with their “Open Society” collaborators on the next steps of publishing illogic.
Entry in the EU is a carrot on a long stick. They don't want a solution either while they are exploiting natural resources and have secure military base on Kosovo and Metohija. Don't worry Germany, we'll stop wearing jogging hose!
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Sam- completely agree. They ask us to come to terms with the legacy of our past! Well, that recent legacy is serbs being genocided in Croatia and now Kosovo with no justice or even acknowledgement of the real victims of the breakup of Yugoslavia. Yes, that is difficult to come to terms with!
Their ignorance and open refusal to tell the truth of what really happened, and is happening, shames only them.
Merkel was probably like: This guy has lost it! As if she doesn’t know that if you were to split up Kosovo or exchange Northern Kosovo with Sourthern Serbia, the same precedent could be used in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
(Locked Game, 27 February 2018 15:40)
I disagree. Kosovo is "special case," as the West says.
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police. That Serbs excel at. Just look at the 1990's do I have to say anymore. Any ways look how yore elites https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=237&v=QfkjNI5dkiM just love Croatia Hvar Island where Marko Polo home town can even visit his home. To know us is to love us.
Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
(Moderate Serb, 1 March 2018 06:00)
I respect my opponents but what I hate the most is when the opposition comes disguised as one of my own. Get a little backbone and use you Albanian name and dont try and pass yourself off as a Serb.
Young Serbs have no stigmas and they are well aware of what went on in the 1990s mate. So go and preach your BS to your Taliban friends not to us.
The rule of law is that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Albanians from Kosovo unlawfully have taken it only for themselves and with the law of force used by those who helped them. When that happened no western democracies mentioned the rule of law.
It's true, Germans were expelled from Vojvodina and some were killed by the communists after WWII, killed by ethnic Croat Tito btw. They were expelled by vile communist Serb Ranko and his Serb goons of the secret police.
(Lenard, 28 February 2018 19:39)
Tito of course supported Rankovic in his mass crimes. hungarian Nazi Collaborator Admiral Horthy killed thousands of Serbs who came floating down the Sava river from Vojvodina, just circle of violence that continues. The Croats showed their true colors fighting old men and women in Krajina, next time, they won't be so lucky.
This is a repeat instead of Vulin now its Dacic, Vucic talks of tough decision and to keep nationalist in check they have one of the clowns beat the nationalist drum.
As April approaches things will get hot, new platform ....maybe Vulin is busy went to Canada to ask his Aunt for 200K$ more
"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors".
- this must have been a doh! Vucic moment - what exactly will be left if there is no principle (as is a Presidential prerequisite) to protect first and foremost what is Serbia and its heartland and its UN sovereignty ?
Not even Tadic would have said such a preposterous statement, all first world war veterans and ancestors must be turning in their grave to know a President to say such words publicly and in presence of German chancellor! I noticed the difference of late from Dacic and its clear this gulf just widened by Vucic's strange choice of words! Dumfounded!
According to comments Serbia was more Nazi and genocidal state than Great Britain, Germany and America all together.
Lenard, seriously, Serbia is not just willing to compromise Kosovo and Serbs from Croatia, too. We are all willing to dye. Just making camps for us again or bomb us. "Serbien muss sterben!" That was Austro-Hungarian political propaganda before the First World War when Vojvodina and Bosnia and Herzegovina was still colonised. We like poor Germans to come here to maintain "proper" European influence.
Wow, you "lose" a questionable "10k-15k" people and you get your own country! Everybody should try it!
(Watcher, 27 February 2018 23:36)
Watcher,
Listen to yourself, do you really believe the nonsense that a certain type of Serb thrives on. Why did so many Serbs end up in the Hague, was it a conspiracy or could there be some kernel of truth to it. As long as there are Serbs like you, our children will never be free of guilt since your denial of what happened during the 1990's is overwhelmingly refuted by hundreds of eyewitnesses. All of it is documented, Serb war crimes will never be forgotten. Why can't Serbs learn something from the Germans about letting go of the past. Their youth do not have the stigma young Serbs have.
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
M. Vucic said:"I told her that it is more important to love the land of one's children than of one's ancestors. Serbia is ready for a solution, but the solution is in both sides losing something,"
Well, M. Vucic, you have to organize a referendum in Serbia about your so-called "solution". The Serbian people has the right to express his opinion about Kosovo, M. Vucic, Serbia is a democracy!
(Victor Hugo, 28 February 2018 03:23)
@ Victor -He hasn't said he wasn't going to have a referendum!
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