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Croatia described as "land of hatred and intimidation"

Germany's Deutschlandfunk public radio recently published "a big feature program about the situation in Croatia" - Croatian media are reporting.

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Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol

Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol

Ataman

pre 6 godina

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!
(icj1, 30 January 2018 01:35)

#1. Instead of bogus TSA take a look at the security situation what Israelis do.
One is staffed with ex-Walmart employees. The other is staffed with determined professionals.

#2. The bags and belongings do not pose a danger. People do.
Instead of "political correctness" and targeting bags, cameras, bottles filled with baby milk - target people. That's what Israelis do.


I can testify, even at Domodedovo in Moscow the security does a better job than, say, the same in Houston.

I flew the DME-IAH-DME a few times with Singapore. Houston was just pathetic and primitive.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

Drazen, where are you getting this information? First of all, it wasn't a Serbo-Yugoslav Army, the Army at that time was composed of people from all parts of Yugoslavia - when shit broke out, there were Croatian Generals in Belgrade you idiot. And second of all, you did have any heroic victory, the Croatians are too cowardly to win any fight let alone a war. As you always do, you hide behind somebody, WW2 with the Nazis, early 90's NATO. If it wasn't for NATO, you would have been wiped out - the local Serbs in Krajina easily controlled the region without the help of the Yugoslavian Army. Hey, but you got the last laugh, you had the US Ambassador riding on the back of a NATO tank chasing out the Serbian elderly and children from their home - I bet you feel pretty good about this victory.

icj1

pre 6 godina

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.
(Ataman, 29 January 2018 07:21)

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)

Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.
(Peggy, 29 January 2018 13:52)

According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Croatia became a country in 1992, whereas Serbia became a country in 2000.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)
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Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

A very personal thing.

I was with my oldest kid in the train, we were going to France via Venice.

That time there was the BP - ZG - LJ - Venice train, we used the Hungarian sleeper.

In the compartment next to us was an Indian-American guy.

I had a little discussion with my kid, we decided to produce Croatians the U.S. passports.

It was a hilarious moment.

They came to our compartment. I commented to my kid: "Lijepa nasha is here".

He nodded. We produced the passports, I joked in Russian with the police, the case was over.

Not so in the next compartment!

They nearly strip-searched the unfortunate traveler and talked really bad about him.

The difference was that "lijepa nasha" and the color of the skin.

The color of the passport was exactly the same.

But of course, the same thing does happen in other places, too.

We have to admit: they aren't politically and racially correct... maybe, thank God.

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.

Srpska Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Of croats are hateful people. They have a complex and theyve always been jealous of serbs. While they were slaves under austro-hungarians, krajina serbs had much more rights because they were regarded as more capable fighters.

Watch this documentary and youll see how sick their nation is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJX6mBShN8

icj1

pre 6 godina

When does 1991 come before 1804?
(Navi, 27 January 2018 17:00)

On Earth, 1991 never comes before 1804... But, I'm not sure what happens in the world where you live since you are asking such a question lol

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

Even though Croatia is Europa's Thailand, Croatian women are more respectable. They work as waitresses, bartenders...provide all sorts of services to foreign tourists but never any service inappropriate.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...

LOL

pre 6 godina

I hope the millions of other tourist [link] can make up what sj didn't leave us.
(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Sorry Lenny, all you've got is tourism. And the worst part about it is that vacationers don't want to be bombarded with Croat waiters regaling them on a long glorious history of a country that never existed in real life. They just want their drink and if you're nice, they'll throw a few kuna on the floor for you to fight over. If you work hard enough, you can go from cleaning public toilets in Austria to serving them drinks in Dubrovnik. Just lay off the fascism. Germans don't like to be reminded you were their ass-kissing, boot-licking allies in the 1940s.

Thanks once again for another "incite full" post. Now be a good Herzegovinian hillbilly and mop that floor :)))

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Jealous of what? I’ve seen Croatia. Peak tourist period lasts 3 months. Except for a handful of hotels everything else is closed between October and April.

Its true the Croat government does count all vehicles entering Croatia as potential tourists even though lots of vehicles only travel through to other destinations.

In 2017, 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last 3 years it’s a total of 260,000 – the clear majority are well educated young people and not from Slavonia.

According to Croatian authorities Croatia’s minimum annual salary is KN131,500 - Є17,424 or US$20,587.

But in 2016, 40,000 Croatians lost their jobs, and in 2017 its 65,000. Great minimum wages just a lack of jobs.

See how BS works?

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

When people are poisoned with hatred, they surely lose basic common sense.
I can speak from my personal experiences in Zagreb and Beograd.
In Zagreb, people came out street for only a couple of coffee; when dinner time came, all of them just disappeared. I once naively asked a restaurant owner how many local guests she got for her business hoping I was served with authentic Croatian meal. She was embarrassed with my question first, but eventually words came out which also explained the street scene.
In Beograd, restaurants we went to were filled with local people and price wise there was not a lot of difference between the two cities.
As for life is better or not after 90's, I hope honest people have their answer.

Navi

pre 6 godina

and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

You mean Germany? The country that recognized Croatia before anyone else in the 1990s? These are German words, not Serbian. Neo-nazi is neo-nazi no matter how you explain it.

Bojan jocic

pre 6 godina

Wow the cowards i mean croations cant even admit tonthe crimes of ww2. What do the nintees have to do with ustisha scum from the 40s?

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.
(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06) A little sj foaming at the mouth again spitting bile. This uncontrollable jealousy of yours of anything Croatian is eating you up Sj not good friend. Those people leaving are from Slavonia region of Croatia. Where criminal fascist Serbs and Serbia destroyed worse then Stalingrad in WW 2. Most of them are Serbs no place was found for them after what criminal Serbia did to them. At least they have Croatia passports can go any where. Ya buses sj went thru Croatia on a bus didn't even yous the toilet couldn't afford a dime. So don't count sj he not a tourist but sadly a Croatian hater. I hope the millions of other tourist https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 can make up what sj didn't leave us.

Dražen Postružnik

pre 6 godina

Before publishing such an article about Croatia, country that has (and still is) suffered a century of occupation, please inform yourself correctly.
Croatians are indeed frustrated and desperate, because UDBA (former Yugoslav KGB-like organisation) succeeded to survive and is infiltrated in all important structures, especialy the Parliament, police and embassies worldwide.
After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...

Croatian ultra-nationalist

pre 6 godina

(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06)

Unfortunately, you're right. Croatia is a puppet to the EU. We're expected to do what they tell us to do, and if we don't, they get pissed off.

A recent example is the Pelješac bridge. The EU is angry with Croatia because we invited a Chinese company to build the bridge. Plenković was told to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, which he didn't.

Therefore, nobody will talk to him during the meeting in Davos. Only Netanyahu, Rama, Rutte and Tsipras held meetings with him.

And the same thing happened when Croatia signed a deal with Russia and Republika Srpska about Slavonski Brod. The EU didn't like it, and we're told to SIT DOWN. Which we didn't. In return, all diplomatic contacts with Croatia were suspended in 30 days.

You have a much better position. You're independent. You can do whatever you want, and there'll be no consequences. At least not in the short run.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Aussie, 26 January 2018 10:36)

It’s always delightful when you come across ignorance of this calibre. It thinks that Croatia is a European powerhouse LOL. Love the part about will not end up like Germany or France. What backwater of Australia do you live in?

I hate to break it to you, but If it was not for the EU fund Croatia would be falling apart. Hospitals would be in ruins, schools falling apart etc. Croatia lives off the EU mate. Who do you think is paying for the Pelješac Bridge? Croatia? Try EU funds.

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Here is the link to the full report. It is in German but you can use google translate to translate that into Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian because these are very different languages of course, lol.
http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/jugoslawienkrieg-kroatiens-unbewaeltigte-vergangenheit.724.de.html?dram:article_id=408914

Good luck with your soul searching, Croats.

Aussie

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east. As for the E.U just because Croatia is a member that doesn’t mean it has to give up everything it has fought for. We have given up enough. We will not end up like Germany or France swamped by millions of uneducated Afghans unwilling to work and refusing to assimilate. We will never give in to the left wing ratbags. We had 50 years of that crap and it almost ruined us. 18 million tourists entered Croatia in 2017, I’m sure we’ll survive.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east.
=================================
Not all Serbs come from Serbia and are immigrants to other regions.
Serbs in what is now called Croatia have been there for hundreds of years and more. It is their home. Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country so stop your go back home crap.
They are at home.

bob

pre 6 godina

Among the controversial appointments to the new government was that of Zlatko Hasanbegović, a historian and Ustasha sympathiser, as culture minister.A new documentary about the Jasenovac death camp, slammed by Jews as an attempt to revise Croatia’s dark past, was praised by Hasanbegović as “the best way to finally shed light on many controversial parts of Croatia’s history”."Hasenegovic became a member of the extremist Croatia Liberation Movement, which had been founded by Croatian Nazis in Argentina after World War II. He contributed to the journal Independent State of Croatia, where he wrote about Ustashe as the “true heroes, martyrs and shaheeds who gave their lives for our Homeland,” describing their defeat by partisans led by Tito in 1945 as “the greatest national tragedy.”

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Why the surprise? It's nothing new. Brussels, Berlin, Paris & London have let quite a few countries join the EU despite them failing to fulfill basic EU rules for membership. EU 'Rule of Law' gold standard is bs propaganda consumption.

Nazis joining the EU is fine as long as they are from small countries and RAH! RAH! RAH! NATO. Only Idiots and liars say otherwise.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Well I’m not surprised to be honest. They can’t let go of the past, it’s seen here in Australia with Croatians they way they speak about Serbs and Bosnians. They forget how much evil they did with the Nazis and they committed crimes in the 90’s war, all sides did. i think they need some young fresh new leaders who can move forward and get along with everyone. Serbia has done that well with Vucic

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 25 January 2018 22:51)

To see Croatian fascism, you have to open your eyes, but since you are a Croat you walk around blindfolded and wonder why you keep bumping into walls, then it’s not surprising you can't see what others do.

The reports relating to your Croatia have come from various media outlets in Europe. The Germans kept quiet for a very long time since they sponsored Croatia's entry into the EU, but it’s now so glaring that if Berlin kept on being silent they could be easily be called supporting fascism themselves. They are so desperate to distance themselves from Zagreb that the Germans have been investing heavily in Serbia and zero in Croatia, but then again no one invests in Croatia.
Amongst your EU peers Croatia is seen as a land of hatred. Now try and not blame the Serbs because this is all your own doing, but if you do we will understand since if does not rain in Croatia it’s the Serbs fault.

Zig Zag

pre 6 godina

Mark, good use of facts and logic. The elections should be a baseline of what the people (voters) in Croatia reflect.

Meanwhile, Serbia's far-right radical party is the official opposition party, and their leader (Vojislav Seselj) regularly burns Croatian flags in Belgrade's town squares.

Even the governing coalition is lead by pupils of the former dictator and War Criminal Slobodan Milosevic. Ivica Dacic leads the SPS, which is a nationalist party founded by Milosevic..and Aleksandar Vucic leads the SNS, which has been re-branded as a progressive nationalist (wtf?) party after originally being spawned from the Serbian Radical Party (SRS).

Literally the top three parties in Serbia are right-wing radical parties, with two of them governing in a coalition and one of them in opposition.

Yet somehow Croatia is the country that is apparently shifting to the far right, LOL.

GermanFail

pre 6 godina

Croatia's far right parties received a combined total of 0.59% of the vote in parliamentary elections last year.

Germany's main far right party (AfD) received a total of 12.6% of the vote in their federal elections last year!

Sorry, but numbers don't lie.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

Having spent time in Croatia recently I didn’t detect a right shift in the population as described by the German media. As for the comments from Index you have to take that with a grain of salt being close to the SDP ( former communists ).

What can be seen is that the HDZ and their coalition partner only received 36.2% of the vote in the last election while the SDP on the left received 33.8% and the MOST party (center) received 9%. The far right HSP whose supporters ( fascist )are usually seen wearing black didn’t even get enough votes to pass the threshold to get any seats in the parliament. As a matter of fact they declined in popularity and lost their only seat in the last election. Populist parties on the left increased their position. When you compare the 2015 election to the 2016 elections there was a shift to the center and left which is confirmed by the HDZ dropping the far right parties in their coalition and going with the centralist parties.

Opinions on the shift in population is better seen with numbers in an election rather then observations make by reporters who are drawn to sensationalism exhibited by the far right who are trying to make themselves relevant after losing support.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, by the way, say good bye to the border (water rights) dispute with Slovenia Buh, buh, byyyyye, ain't noooo lie...... LMAOffffff, na na na an na ain't no lie!!!! I'm in such a musical mood today!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And to think that I thought I read the best news, eeeever, yesterday - the announced Jasanovac exhibition at the UN, then this happens!!! I can't get the smile off my face, and I'll go grab a couple bourbons after work this evening to celebrate. Who would have ever thought that the Germans would throw the Croat/Nazi/Ustase under the table like this - not in a million years. People, the tides of change are upon us, Albos losing support from EU and US-West, Croats getting a butt-hurt from their longest standing ally - the world is finally waking up and realizing where the pure evil of Europe resides - Croatia and Albania...

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

I have vacationed in Croatia twice in recent years. It's sad that other than beautiful coasts, historical heritage and good-looking people, hatred is well known among its population. Hatred is like a poison, one takes it and hopes others die.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

If Croatia is described as such what do they have to say about Serbia?
(Avni, 25 January 2018 19:12

Ohhhh my Little, Minute and Insignificant Avni... if there was something to say about Serbia, I guarantee you that the Germans would be more than happy and willing to share it - unfortunately, there is nothing to say, we manned up to the world unlike you Gutter Snipes trying to hide behind NATO/EU/US-West. But, your time has come, and I can wait for the festivities at your KiM Court. I would call you a gypsy, but I don't want to insult them. You're a major Imbecile like ic- no tomorrow-j, vicky, and goat loving azir.

PEN

pre 6 godina

Hardly a surprise this report. Croatian society has a deep seam of clerico-fascism bubbling not too far beneath the surface. They have never come to terms with, never mind recognised, their horrific role in World War two. It's high time the EU and decent people everywhere recognised this and did something about it. A prime example was Eurosport the other night. During Cilic's game against Nadal, the camera swept across the crowd only to focus on a 'person' waving a Croat flag with the Ustasha 'U' plainly emblazoned above the chequerboard shield! The equivalent would be a German flag with a swastika in the middle. There are some very sick people in the Croat diaspora, never mind their benighted country.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

Bunch of inferiority complexed haters. Always have been, always will be.
When will you give your citizens their property back? We demand it now. We have waited long enough.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

Bunch of inferiority complexed haters. Always have been, always will be.
When will you give your citizens their property back? We demand it now. We have waited long enough.

PEN

pre 6 godina

Hardly a surprise this report. Croatian society has a deep seam of clerico-fascism bubbling not too far beneath the surface. They have never come to terms with, never mind recognised, their horrific role in World War two. It's high time the EU and decent people everywhere recognised this and did something about it. A prime example was Eurosport the other night. During Cilic's game against Nadal, the camera swept across the crowd only to focus on a 'person' waving a Croat flag with the Ustasha 'U' plainly emblazoned above the chequerboard shield! The equivalent would be a German flag with a swastika in the middle. There are some very sick people in the Croat diaspora, never mind their benighted country.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

If Croatia is described as such what do they have to say about Serbia?
(Avni, 25 January 2018 19:12

Ohhhh my Little, Minute and Insignificant Avni... if there was something to say about Serbia, I guarantee you that the Germans would be more than happy and willing to share it - unfortunately, there is nothing to say, we manned up to the world unlike you Gutter Snipes trying to hide behind NATO/EU/US-West. But, your time has come, and I can wait for the festivities at your KiM Court. I would call you a gypsy, but I don't want to insult them. You're a major Imbecile like ic- no tomorrow-j, vicky, and goat loving azir.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And to think that I thought I read the best news, eeeever, yesterday - the announced Jasanovac exhibition at the UN, then this happens!!! I can't get the smile off my face, and I'll go grab a couple bourbons after work this evening to celebrate. Who would have ever thought that the Germans would throw the Croat/Nazi/Ustase under the table like this - not in a million years. People, the tides of change are upon us, Albos losing support from EU and US-West, Croats getting a butt-hurt from their longest standing ally - the world is finally waking up and realizing where the pure evil of Europe resides - Croatia and Albania...

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

I have vacationed in Croatia twice in recent years. It's sad that other than beautiful coasts, historical heritage and good-looking people, hatred is well known among its population. Hatred is like a poison, one takes it and hopes others die.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 25 January 2018 22:51)

To see Croatian fascism, you have to open your eyes, but since you are a Croat you walk around blindfolded and wonder why you keep bumping into walls, then it’s not surprising you can't see what others do.

The reports relating to your Croatia have come from various media outlets in Europe. The Germans kept quiet for a very long time since they sponsored Croatia's entry into the EU, but it’s now so glaring that if Berlin kept on being silent they could be easily be called supporting fascism themselves. They are so desperate to distance themselves from Zagreb that the Germans have been investing heavily in Serbia and zero in Croatia, but then again no one invests in Croatia.
Amongst your EU peers Croatia is seen as a land of hatred. Now try and not blame the Serbs because this is all your own doing, but if you do we will understand since if does not rain in Croatia it’s the Serbs fault.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east.
=================================
Not all Serbs come from Serbia and are immigrants to other regions.
Serbs in what is now called Croatia have been there for hundreds of years and more. It is their home. Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country so stop your go back home crap.
They are at home.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Well I’m not surprised to be honest. They can’t let go of the past, it’s seen here in Australia with Croatians they way they speak about Serbs and Bosnians. They forget how much evil they did with the Nazis and they committed crimes in the 90’s war, all sides did. i think they need some young fresh new leaders who can move forward and get along with everyone. Serbia has done that well with Vucic

sj

pre 6 godina

(Aussie, 26 January 2018 10:36)

It’s always delightful when you come across ignorance of this calibre. It thinks that Croatia is a European powerhouse LOL. Love the part about will not end up like Germany or France. What backwater of Australia do you live in?

I hate to break it to you, but If it was not for the EU fund Croatia would be falling apart. Hospitals would be in ruins, schools falling apart etc. Croatia lives off the EU mate. Who do you think is paying for the Pelješac Bridge? Croatia? Try EU funds.

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Here is the link to the full report. It is in German but you can use google translate to translate that into Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian because these are very different languages of course, lol.
http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/jugoslawienkrieg-kroatiens-unbewaeltigte-vergangenheit.724.de.html?dram:article_id=408914

Good luck with your soul searching, Croats.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

Having spent time in Croatia recently I didn’t detect a right shift in the population as described by the German media. As for the comments from Index you have to take that with a grain of salt being close to the SDP ( former communists ).

What can be seen is that the HDZ and their coalition partner only received 36.2% of the vote in the last election while the SDP on the left received 33.8% and the MOST party (center) received 9%. The far right HSP whose supporters ( fascist )are usually seen wearing black didn’t even get enough votes to pass the threshold to get any seats in the parliament. As a matter of fact they declined in popularity and lost their only seat in the last election. Populist parties on the left increased their position. When you compare the 2015 election to the 2016 elections there was a shift to the center and left which is confirmed by the HDZ dropping the far right parties in their coalition and going with the centralist parties.

Opinions on the shift in population is better seen with numbers in an election rather then observations make by reporters who are drawn to sensationalism exhibited by the far right who are trying to make themselves relevant after losing support.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, by the way, say good bye to the border (water rights) dispute with Slovenia Buh, buh, byyyyye, ain't noooo lie...... LMAOffffff, na na na an na ain't no lie!!!! I'm in such a musical mood today!

LOL

pre 6 godina

I hope the millions of other tourist [link] can make up what sj didn't leave us.
(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Sorry Lenny, all you've got is tourism. And the worst part about it is that vacationers don't want to be bombarded with Croat waiters regaling them on a long glorious history of a country that never existed in real life. They just want their drink and if you're nice, they'll throw a few kuna on the floor for you to fight over. If you work hard enough, you can go from cleaning public toilets in Austria to serving them drinks in Dubrovnik. Just lay off the fascism. Germans don't like to be reminded you were their ass-kissing, boot-licking allies in the 1940s.

Thanks once again for another "incite full" post. Now be a good Herzegovinian hillbilly and mop that floor :)))

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Why the surprise? It's nothing new. Brussels, Berlin, Paris & London have let quite a few countries join the EU despite them failing to fulfill basic EU rules for membership. EU 'Rule of Law' gold standard is bs propaganda consumption.

Nazis joining the EU is fine as long as they are from small countries and RAH! RAH! RAH! NATO. Only Idiots and liars say otherwise.

Croatian ultra-nationalist

pre 6 godina

(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06)

Unfortunately, you're right. Croatia is a puppet to the EU. We're expected to do what they tell us to do, and if we don't, they get pissed off.

A recent example is the Pelješac bridge. The EU is angry with Croatia because we invited a Chinese company to build the bridge. Plenković was told to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, which he didn't.

Therefore, nobody will talk to him during the meeting in Davos. Only Netanyahu, Rama, Rutte and Tsipras held meetings with him.

And the same thing happened when Croatia signed a deal with Russia and Republika Srpska about Slavonski Brod. The EU didn't like it, and we're told to SIT DOWN. Which we didn't. In return, all diplomatic contacts with Croatia were suspended in 30 days.

You have a much better position. You're independent. You can do whatever you want, and there'll be no consequences. At least not in the short run.

Navi

pre 6 godina

and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

You mean Germany? The country that recognized Croatia before anyone else in the 1990s? These are German words, not Serbian. Neo-nazi is neo-nazi no matter how you explain it.

Zig Zag

pre 6 godina

Mark, good use of facts and logic. The elections should be a baseline of what the people (voters) in Croatia reflect.

Meanwhile, Serbia's far-right radical party is the official opposition party, and their leader (Vojislav Seselj) regularly burns Croatian flags in Belgrade's town squares.

Even the governing coalition is lead by pupils of the former dictator and War Criminal Slobodan Milosevic. Ivica Dacic leads the SPS, which is a nationalist party founded by Milosevic..and Aleksandar Vucic leads the SNS, which has been re-branded as a progressive nationalist (wtf?) party after originally being spawned from the Serbian Radical Party (SRS).

Literally the top three parties in Serbia are right-wing radical parties, with two of them governing in a coalition and one of them in opposition.

Yet somehow Croatia is the country that is apparently shifting to the far right, LOL.

bob

pre 6 godina

Among the controversial appointments to the new government was that of Zlatko Hasanbegović, a historian and Ustasha sympathiser, as culture minister.A new documentary about the Jasenovac death camp, slammed by Jews as an attempt to revise Croatia’s dark past, was praised by Hasanbegović as “the best way to finally shed light on many controversial parts of Croatia’s history”."Hasenegovic became a member of the extremist Croatia Liberation Movement, which had been founded by Croatian Nazis in Argentina after World War II. He contributed to the journal Independent State of Croatia, where he wrote about Ustashe as the “true heroes, martyrs and shaheeds who gave their lives for our Homeland,” describing their defeat by partisans led by Tito in 1945 as “the greatest national tragedy.”

Srpska Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Of croats are hateful people. They have a complex and theyve always been jealous of serbs. While they were slaves under austro-hungarians, krajina serbs had much more rights because they were regarded as more capable fighters.

Watch this documentary and youll see how sick their nation is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJX6mBShN8

Bojan jocic

pre 6 godina

Wow the cowards i mean croations cant even admit tonthe crimes of ww2. What do the nintees have to do with ustisha scum from the 40s?

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Jealous of what? I’ve seen Croatia. Peak tourist period lasts 3 months. Except for a handful of hotels everything else is closed between October and April.

Its true the Croat government does count all vehicles entering Croatia as potential tourists even though lots of vehicles only travel through to other destinations.

In 2017, 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last 3 years it’s a total of 260,000 – the clear majority are well educated young people and not from Slavonia.

According to Croatian authorities Croatia’s minimum annual salary is KN131,500 - Є17,424 or US$20,587.

But in 2016, 40,000 Croatians lost their jobs, and in 2017 its 65,000. Great minimum wages just a lack of jobs.

See how BS works?

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

Drazen, where are you getting this information? First of all, it wasn't a Serbo-Yugoslav Army, the Army at that time was composed of people from all parts of Yugoslavia - when shit broke out, there were Croatian Generals in Belgrade you idiot. And second of all, you did have any heroic victory, the Croatians are too cowardly to win any fight let alone a war. As you always do, you hide behind somebody, WW2 with the Nazis, early 90's NATO. If it wasn't for NATO, you would have been wiped out - the local Serbs in Krajina easily controlled the region without the help of the Yugoslavian Army. Hey, but you got the last laugh, you had the US Ambassador riding on the back of a NATO tank chasing out the Serbian elderly and children from their home - I bet you feel pretty good about this victory.

GermanFail

pre 6 godina

Croatia's far right parties received a combined total of 0.59% of the vote in parliamentary elections last year.

Germany's main far right party (AfD) received a total of 12.6% of the vote in their federal elections last year!

Sorry, but numbers don't lie.

Aussie

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east. As for the E.U just because Croatia is a member that doesn’t mean it has to give up everything it has fought for. We have given up enough. We will not end up like Germany or France swamped by millions of uneducated Afghans unwilling to work and refusing to assimilate. We will never give in to the left wing ratbags. We had 50 years of that crap and it almost ruined us. 18 million tourists entered Croatia in 2017, I’m sure we’ll survive.

Dražen Postružnik

pre 6 godina

Before publishing such an article about Croatia, country that has (and still is) suffered a century of occupation, please inform yourself correctly.
Croatians are indeed frustrated and desperate, because UDBA (former Yugoslav KGB-like organisation) succeeded to survive and is infiltrated in all important structures, especialy the Parliament, police and embassies worldwide.
After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.
(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06) A little sj foaming at the mouth again spitting bile. This uncontrollable jealousy of yours of anything Croatian is eating you up Sj not good friend. Those people leaving are from Slavonia region of Croatia. Where criminal fascist Serbs and Serbia destroyed worse then Stalingrad in WW 2. Most of them are Serbs no place was found for them after what criminal Serbia did to them. At least they have Croatia passports can go any where. Ya buses sj went thru Croatia on a bus didn't even yous the toilet couldn't afford a dime. So don't count sj he not a tourist but sadly a Croatian hater. I hope the millions of other tourist https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 can make up what sj didn't leave us.

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

When people are poisoned with hatred, they surely lose basic common sense.
I can speak from my personal experiences in Zagreb and Beograd.
In Zagreb, people came out street for only a couple of coffee; when dinner time came, all of them just disappeared. I once naively asked a restaurant owner how many local guests she got for her business hoping I was served with authentic Croatian meal. She was embarrassed with my question first, but eventually words came out which also explained the street scene.
In Beograd, restaurants we went to were filled with local people and price wise there was not a lot of difference between the two cities.
As for life is better or not after 90's, I hope honest people have their answer.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)
===========================
Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)

Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.
(Peggy, 29 January 2018 13:52)

According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Croatia became a country in 1992, whereas Serbia became a country in 2000.

icj1

pre 6 godina

When does 1991 come before 1804?
(Navi, 27 January 2018 17:00)

On Earth, 1991 never comes before 1804... But, I'm not sure what happens in the world where you live since you are asking such a question lol

Ataman

pre 6 godina

A very personal thing.

I was with my oldest kid in the train, we were going to France via Venice.

That time there was the BP - ZG - LJ - Venice train, we used the Hungarian sleeper.

In the compartment next to us was an Indian-American guy.

I had a little discussion with my kid, we decided to produce Croatians the U.S. passports.

It was a hilarious moment.

They came to our compartment. I commented to my kid: "Lijepa nasha is here".

He nodded. We produced the passports, I joked in Russian with the police, the case was over.

Not so in the next compartment!

They nearly strip-searched the unfortunate traveler and talked really bad about him.

The difference was that "lijepa nasha" and the color of the skin.

The color of the passport was exactly the same.

But of course, the same thing does happen in other places, too.

We have to admit: they aren't politically and racially correct... maybe, thank God.

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

Even though Croatia is Europa's Thailand, Croatian women are more respectable. They work as waitresses, bartenders...provide all sorts of services to foreign tourists but never any service inappropriate.

icj1

pre 6 godina

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.
(Ataman, 29 January 2018 07:21)

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!

Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol

Ataman

pre 6 godina

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!
(icj1, 30 January 2018 01:35)

#1. Instead of bogus TSA take a look at the security situation what Israelis do.
One is staffed with ex-Walmart employees. The other is staffed with determined professionals.

#2. The bags and belongings do not pose a danger. People do.
Instead of "political correctness" and targeting bags, cameras, bottles filled with baby milk - target people. That's what Israelis do.


I can testify, even at Domodedovo in Moscow the security does a better job than, say, the same in Houston.

I flew the DME-IAH-DME a few times with Singapore. Houston was just pathetic and primitive.

Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol

Aussie

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east. As for the E.U just because Croatia is a member that doesn’t mean it has to give up everything it has fought for. We have given up enough. We will not end up like Germany or France swamped by millions of uneducated Afghans unwilling to work and refusing to assimilate. We will never give in to the left wing ratbags. We had 50 years of that crap and it almost ruined us. 18 million tourists entered Croatia in 2017, I’m sure we’ll survive.

Zig Zag

pre 6 godina

Mark, good use of facts and logic. The elections should be a baseline of what the people (voters) in Croatia reflect.

Meanwhile, Serbia's far-right radical party is the official opposition party, and their leader (Vojislav Seselj) regularly burns Croatian flags in Belgrade's town squares.

Even the governing coalition is lead by pupils of the former dictator and War Criminal Slobodan Milosevic. Ivica Dacic leads the SPS, which is a nationalist party founded by Milosevic..and Aleksandar Vucic leads the SNS, which has been re-branded as a progressive nationalist (wtf?) party after originally being spawned from the Serbian Radical Party (SRS).

Literally the top three parties in Serbia are right-wing radical parties, with two of them governing in a coalition and one of them in opposition.

Yet somehow Croatia is the country that is apparently shifting to the far right, LOL.

Dražen Postružnik

pre 6 godina

Before publishing such an article about Croatia, country that has (and still is) suffered a century of occupation, please inform yourself correctly.
Croatians are indeed frustrated and desperate, because UDBA (former Yugoslav KGB-like organisation) succeeded to survive and is infiltrated in all important structures, especialy the Parliament, police and embassies worldwide.
After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

If Croatia is described as such what do they have to say about Serbia?
(Avni, 25 January 2018 19:12

Ohhhh my Little, Minute and Insignificant Avni... if there was something to say about Serbia, I guarantee you that the Germans would be more than happy and willing to share it - unfortunately, there is nothing to say, we manned up to the world unlike you Gutter Snipes trying to hide behind NATO/EU/US-West. But, your time has come, and I can wait for the festivities at your KiM Court. I would call you a gypsy, but I don't want to insult them. You're a major Imbecile like ic- no tomorrow-j, vicky, and goat loving azir.

Jeff

pre 6 godina

Bunch of inferiority complexed haters. Always have been, always will be.
When will you give your citizens their property back? We demand it now. We have waited long enough.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And to think that I thought I read the best news, eeeever, yesterday - the announced Jasanovac exhibition at the UN, then this happens!!! I can't get the smile off my face, and I'll go grab a couple bourbons after work this evening to celebrate. Who would have ever thought that the Germans would throw the Croat/Nazi/Ustase under the table like this - not in a million years. People, the tides of change are upon us, Albos losing support from EU and US-West, Croats getting a butt-hurt from their longest standing ally - the world is finally waking up and realizing where the pure evil of Europe resides - Croatia and Albania...

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

I have vacationed in Croatia twice in recent years. It's sad that other than beautiful coasts, historical heritage and good-looking people, hatred is well known among its population. Hatred is like a poison, one takes it and hopes others die.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

The hatred will continue until Serbs are no more. For Serbs in Croatia, if you don’t like the way you are treated then pack your bags and head east.
=================================
Not all Serbs come from Serbia and are immigrants to other regions.
Serbs in what is now called Croatia have been there for hundreds of years and more. It is their home. Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country so stop your go back home crap.
They are at home.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.
(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06) A little sj foaming at the mouth again spitting bile. This uncontrollable jealousy of yours of anything Croatian is eating you up Sj not good friend. Those people leaving are from Slavonia region of Croatia. Where criminal fascist Serbs and Serbia destroyed worse then Stalingrad in WW 2. Most of them are Serbs no place was found for them after what criminal Serbia did to them. At least they have Croatia passports can go any where. Ya buses sj went thru Croatia on a bus didn't even yous the toilet couldn't afford a dime. So don't count sj he not a tourist but sadly a Croatian hater. I hope the millions of other tourist https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 can make up what sj didn't leave us.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...

sj

pre 6 godina

(Mark.W, 25 January 2018 22:51)

To see Croatian fascism, you have to open your eyes, but since you are a Croat you walk around blindfolded and wonder why you keep bumping into walls, then it’s not surprising you can't see what others do.

The reports relating to your Croatia have come from various media outlets in Europe. The Germans kept quiet for a very long time since they sponsored Croatia's entry into the EU, but it’s now so glaring that if Berlin kept on being silent they could be easily be called supporting fascism themselves. They are so desperate to distance themselves from Zagreb that the Germans have been investing heavily in Serbia and zero in Croatia, but then again no one invests in Croatia.
Amongst your EU peers Croatia is seen as a land of hatred. Now try and not blame the Serbs because this is all your own doing, but if you do we will understand since if does not rain in Croatia it’s the Serbs fault.

PEN

pre 6 godina

Hardly a surprise this report. Croatian society has a deep seam of clerico-fascism bubbling not too far beneath the surface. They have never come to terms with, never mind recognised, their horrific role in World War two. It's high time the EU and decent people everywhere recognised this and did something about it. A prime example was Eurosport the other night. During Cilic's game against Nadal, the camera swept across the crowd only to focus on a 'person' waving a Croat flag with the Ustasha 'U' plainly emblazoned above the chequerboard shield! The equivalent would be a German flag with a swastika in the middle. There are some very sick people in the Croat diaspora, never mind their benighted country.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Well I’m not surprised to be honest. They can’t let go of the past, it’s seen here in Australia with Croatians they way they speak about Serbs and Bosnians. They forget how much evil they did with the Nazis and they committed crimes in the 90’s war, all sides did. i think they need some young fresh new leaders who can move forward and get along with everyone. Serbia has done that well with Vucic

sj

pre 6 godina

(Aussie, 26 January 2018 10:36)

It’s always delightful when you come across ignorance of this calibre. It thinks that Croatia is a European powerhouse LOL. Love the part about will not end up like Germany or France. What backwater of Australia do you live in?

I hate to break it to you, but If it was not for the EU fund Croatia would be falling apart. Hospitals would be in ruins, schools falling apart etc. Croatia lives off the EU mate. Who do you think is paying for the Pelješac Bridge? Croatia? Try EU funds.

Do you believe that Croatia survives off tourism alone? If that is so why have 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last couple of years a total of 260,000?

Yeah, I heard the BS about 18 million on HRTV in Sydney LOL. Tourists are those that arrive in Croatia and spend time there, but I strongly suggest Croatia should stop counting semitrailers, buses and other vehicles which only passing through Croatia as tourists.

Mark.W

pre 6 godina

Having spent time in Croatia recently I didn’t detect a right shift in the population as described by the German media. As for the comments from Index you have to take that with a grain of salt being close to the SDP ( former communists ).

What can be seen is that the HDZ and their coalition partner only received 36.2% of the vote in the last election while the SDP on the left received 33.8% and the MOST party (center) received 9%. The far right HSP whose supporters ( fascist )are usually seen wearing black didn’t even get enough votes to pass the threshold to get any seats in the parliament. As a matter of fact they declined in popularity and lost their only seat in the last election. Populist parties on the left increased their position. When you compare the 2015 election to the 2016 elections there was a shift to the center and left which is confirmed by the HDZ dropping the far right parties in their coalition and going with the centralist parties.

Opinions on the shift in population is better seen with numbers in an election rather then observations make by reporters who are drawn to sensationalism exhibited by the far right who are trying to make themselves relevant after losing support.

Bojan jocic

pre 6 godina

Wow the cowards i mean croations cant even admit tonthe crimes of ww2. What do the nintees have to do with ustisha scum from the 40s?

LOL

pre 6 godina

I hope the millions of other tourist [link] can make up what sj didn't leave us.
(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Sorry Lenny, all you've got is tourism. And the worst part about it is that vacationers don't want to be bombarded with Croat waiters regaling them on a long glorious history of a country that never existed in real life. They just want their drink and if you're nice, they'll throw a few kuna on the floor for you to fight over. If you work hard enough, you can go from cleaning public toilets in Austria to serving them drinks in Dubrovnik. Just lay off the fascism. Germans don't like to be reminded you were their ass-kissing, boot-licking allies in the 1940s.

Thanks once again for another "incite full" post. Now be a good Herzegovinian hillbilly and mop that floor :)))

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Oh, by the way, say good bye to the border (water rights) dispute with Slovenia Buh, buh, byyyyye, ain't noooo lie...... LMAOffffff, na na na an na ain't no lie!!!! I'm in such a musical mood today!

GermanFail

pre 6 godina

Croatia's far right parties received a combined total of 0.59% of the vote in parliamentary elections last year.

Germany's main far right party (AfD) received a total of 12.6% of the vote in their federal elections last year!

Sorry, but numbers don't lie.

Joe A

pre 6 godina

Here is the link to the full report. It is in German but you can use google translate to translate that into Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian because these are very different languages of course, lol.
http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/jugoslawienkrieg-kroatiens-unbewaeltigte-vergangenheit.724.de.html?dram:article_id=408914

Good luck with your soul searching, Croats.

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

When people are poisoned with hatred, they surely lose basic common sense.
I can speak from my personal experiences in Zagreb and Beograd.
In Zagreb, people came out street for only a couple of coffee; when dinner time came, all of them just disappeared. I once naively asked a restaurant owner how many local guests she got for her business hoping I was served with authentic Croatian meal. She was embarrassed with my question first, but eventually words came out which also explained the street scene.
In Beograd, restaurants we went to were filled with local people and price wise there was not a lot of difference between the two cities.
As for life is better or not after 90's, I hope honest people have their answer.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 26 January 2018 19:03)

Jealous of what? I’ve seen Croatia. Peak tourist period lasts 3 months. Except for a handful of hotels everything else is closed between October and April.

Its true the Croat government does count all vehicles entering Croatia as potential tourists even though lots of vehicles only travel through to other destinations.

In 2017, 60,000 Croats left permanently and in the last 3 years it’s a total of 260,000 – the clear majority are well educated young people and not from Slavonia.

According to Croatian authorities Croatia’s minimum annual salary is KN131,500 - Є17,424 or US$20,587.

But in 2016, 40,000 Croatians lost their jobs, and in 2017 its 65,000. Great minimum wages just a lack of jobs.

See how BS works?

Srpska Vratnica

pre 6 godina

Of croats are hateful people. They have a complex and theyve always been jealous of serbs. While they were slaves under austro-hungarians, krajina serbs had much more rights because they were regarded as more capable fighters.

Watch this documentary and youll see how sick their nation is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJX6mBShN8

icj1

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)

Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.
(Peggy, 29 January 2018 13:52)

According to the most patriotic of Serbs, Croatia became a country in 1992, whereas Serbia became a country in 2000.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Why the surprise? It's nothing new. Brussels, Berlin, Paris & London have let quite a few countries join the EU despite them failing to fulfill basic EU rules for membership. EU 'Rule of Law' gold standard is bs propaganda consumption.

Nazis joining the EU is fine as long as they are from small countries and RAH! RAH! RAH! NATO. Only Idiots and liars say otherwise.

rivernextdoor

pre 6 godina

Even though Croatia is Europa's Thailand, Croatian women are more respectable. They work as waitresses, bartenders...provide all sorts of services to foreign tourists but never any service inappropriate.

icj1

pre 6 godina

When does 1991 come before 1804?
(Navi, 27 January 2018 17:00)

On Earth, 1991 never comes before 1804... But, I'm not sure what happens in the world where you live since you are asking such a question lol

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Croatia in it's current borders is a relatively new country
(Peggy, 26 January 2018 10:56)

It's still a country older than Serbia...
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:32)
===========================
Ok then, tell us when Croatia became a country.
Then tell us when Serbia became a country.

Croatian ultra-nationalist

pre 6 godina

(sj, 26 January 2018 11:06)

Unfortunately, you're right. Croatia is a puppet to the EU. We're expected to do what they tell us to do, and if we don't, they get pissed off.

A recent example is the Pelješac bridge. The EU is angry with Croatia because we invited a Chinese company to build the bridge. Plenković was told to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP, which he didn't.

Therefore, nobody will talk to him during the meeting in Davos. Only Netanyahu, Rama, Rutte and Tsipras held meetings with him.

And the same thing happened when Croatia signed a deal with Russia and Republika Srpska about Slavonski Brod. The EU didn't like it, and we're told to SIT DOWN. Which we didn't. In return, all diplomatic contacts with Croatia were suspended in 30 days.

You have a much better position. You're independent. You can do whatever you want, and there'll be no consequences. At least not in the short run.

bob

pre 6 godina

Among the controversial appointments to the new government was that of Zlatko Hasanbegović, a historian and Ustasha sympathiser, as culture minister.A new documentary about the Jasenovac death camp, slammed by Jews as an attempt to revise Croatia’s dark past, was praised by Hasanbegović as “the best way to finally shed light on many controversial parts of Croatia’s history”."Hasenegovic became a member of the extremist Croatia Liberation Movement, which had been founded by Croatian Nazis in Argentina after World War II. He contributed to the journal Independent State of Croatia, where he wrote about Ustashe as the “true heroes, martyrs and shaheeds who gave their lives for our Homeland,” describing their defeat by partisans led by Tito in 1945 as “the greatest national tragedy.”

Navi

pre 6 godina

and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

You mean Germany? The country that recognized Croatia before anyone else in the 1990s? These are German words, not Serbian. Neo-nazi is neo-nazi no matter how you explain it.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

A very personal thing.

I was with my oldest kid in the train, we were going to France via Venice.

That time there was the BP - ZG - LJ - Venice train, we used the Hungarian sleeper.

In the compartment next to us was an Indian-American guy.

I had a little discussion with my kid, we decided to produce Croatians the U.S. passports.

It was a hilarious moment.

They came to our compartment. I commented to my kid: "Lijepa nasha is here".

He nodded. We produced the passports, I joked in Russian with the police, the case was over.

Not so in the next compartment!

They nearly strip-searched the unfortunate traveler and talked really bad about him.

The difference was that "lijepa nasha" and the color of the skin.

The color of the passport was exactly the same.

But of course, the same thing does happen in other places, too.

We have to admit: they aren't politically and racially correct... maybe, thank God.

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.

icj1

pre 6 godina

I am fed up with political and racial correctness. It's completely dishonest. And very expensive.

See that bogus TSA which costs us billions... without a single terrorist ever caught.
(Ataman, 29 January 2018 07:21)

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

After the communists have lost the war in the nineties, after a miraculous heroic victory of unarmed Croatian people against Serbo-Yugoslav army, the cold-war continued. Well known communist (Soviet!) methods, based on insinuations and incredible lies, are resulting in degradation of situation - and in articles like yours...
(Dražen Postružnik, 26 January 2018 17:29)

Drazen, where are you getting this information? First of all, it wasn't a Serbo-Yugoslav Army, the Army at that time was composed of people from all parts of Yugoslavia - when shit broke out, there were Croatian Generals in Belgrade you idiot. And second of all, you did have any heroic victory, the Croatians are too cowardly to win any fight let alone a war. As you always do, you hide behind somebody, WW2 with the Nazis, early 90's NATO. If it wasn't for NATO, you would have been wiped out - the local Serbs in Krajina easily controlled the region without the help of the Yugoslavian Army. Hey, but you got the last laugh, you had the US Ambassador riding on the back of a NATO tank chasing out the Serbian elderly and children from their home - I bet you feel pretty good about this victory.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

So, what would you suggest as a concrete action step to improve the situation based on your analysis above? Just ranting against something solves nothing!
(icj1, 30 January 2018 01:35)

#1. Instead of bogus TSA take a look at the security situation what Israelis do.
One is staffed with ex-Walmart employees. The other is staffed with determined professionals.

#2. The bags and belongings do not pose a danger. People do.
Instead of "political correctness" and targeting bags, cameras, bottles filled with baby milk - target people. That's what Israelis do.


I can testify, even at Domodedovo in Moscow the security does a better job than, say, the same in Houston.

I flew the DME-IAH-DME a few times with Singapore. Houston was just pathetic and primitive.

Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol

Mike

pre 2 godine

The Croatians started the ethnically cleansing in 1991 with Tudjman sacking all those in the public sectors who were ethnic Serbs even if they lived in Croatia for centuries, just like the Nazis started. Then when the Serbs hot back e.g. Vukovar they cry and say they are victims. Can give it but not take it lol