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Tuesday, 16.01.2018.

09:33

Oliver Ivanovic shot six times, dies of his wounds

The leder of the Civic Initiative (GI) SDP, Oliver Ivanovic, died of his injuries on Tuesday, after he was shot in front of his office in Kosovska Mitrovica.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...
(ChiTown, 22 January 2018 22:01)

Why should I look it up?! :)

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...

icj1

pre 6 godina

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical my Little Einstein! And, if you really felt the need to answer it, it was a "yes or no" question - it didn't require you weak acumen....

icj1

pre 6 godina

In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

Ok, and according to your definition above, Serbia's police is a complete disaster, indeed.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09)

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)

icj1

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"

That statement doesn't fly a bit.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

"No, no, no" what dear?! That is exactly what I wrote lol. However, you still have not explained why that statement doesn't fly a bit. Aren't you aware that the Serbian police did indeed fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?! It appears news takes almost 15 years to reach you, dear!!!

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"
That statement doesn't fly a bit. Just follow comments below for an explanation why doesn't fly. Also by the way you compared event from like 15 years ago with an just recent event which doesn't fly as well.
In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09

Hey my love! By the way, it was a statement, not a question....

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:45)

EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 23:21)

Sure, I'm glad you realised that, too :) But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46

Based on this comment icj, I now understand why you restate comments with your own twist - if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged. Did you learn this in your Troll 101 class? I hope your second original thought is better, I give you a F+ for the first one. And see me after class so I can put you over my knee.....

sj

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)


A land registry is a valid data base in a place where there is rule of law and you can take matters to a real court to obtain satisfaction. Kosovo does not have rule of law. An Albo neighbor can accuse a Serb that they are a war criminal, pay some someone working in the land registry and in one swift move the original landholder no longer exists. That is how Kosova works.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police. You used to compare EULEX, KFOR and KSF with Serbian police and that doesn't fly.

ian

pre 6 godina

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)

It makes more sense than anything you have ever said dear. Albanians want to provoke another war because they feel they will get the same protection from nato again, use your brain for a second. make no mistake, they are terrified of a one on one war with Serbia, but they feel that they will be protected again. they want nato to come and do their bidding for them to slow Serbia down. nato may or may not protect you again, but I can tell you it will be a totally different battle this time.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:50)

icj: More nonsense? Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'? Hmmm, kind of ironic when you put it this way, no?!?!?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!
(icj1, 17 January 2018 19:17)

The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 19:46)

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, JFK tells us that quantity of the police officers is completely irrelevant. Besides EULEX, KFOR was able to outnumber Serbian police officers at any time. Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.
(sarma, 17 January 2018 16:25)

Well, the Serbian police has also more police officers than EULEX, KFOR and KSF have. So, which part of my statement does not fly?! Didn't the Serbian police fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

ivan

pre 6 godina

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

It is wrong whoever did this whether Serb or Albo. The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours. I'm rooting for the latter.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

yeah, that’s what it means...
(Watcher, 17 January 2018 01:10)

Great! That means that we are in agreement that Ari Gold's suggestion was total nonsense...

ivan

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29)

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Watcher
You are correct that there are also criminals in Kosovo that are protected and used by local politicians and these politicians are protected by USA etc.
But this case does not seem to have anything to do with Albanians (so far) so I am not sure what your comment means.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Avni, UDBA was Yugoslavian. We the Serbs didn't like much Yugoslavia. We the Serbs were very oppressed in Yugoslavia. Our ancestors private properties were stolen from Yugoslavia which affected lives of us Serbs in very negative ways. We spoke Serbian language which unfortunately officially didn't existed during the Yugoslavia.

Darko

pre 6 godina

Serbia is playing dirty games... if u think u can destabile kosovo. U r wrong. Cuz nato and kfor is in kosovo.. what you are doing. Is just stoping serbia's way to EU... nice

Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

Let's calm down and let the investigation figure out who did it. Of course, each ethnic group doesn't trust the other, so it will be hard to do an unbiased investigation. Nevertheless, don't rush to judgment. That's why the Balkans are always in chaos. Chaos results from not thinking carefully before acting. Let's all be calm and patient.

Kosovar

pre 6 godina

Regardless, all lives matter, and this one too. However, its not that difficult to connect the dots and see the picture. The late Ivanovic said, "Šta je u septembru govorio ubijeni Oliver Ivanović: Ne bojim se Albanaca, nego Srba" (I am not afraid of Albanins I am afraid of Serbs, it seems he was executed by the same people who killed the EULEX Police officers sometime back, who killed the Kosovo Police Officer and who are planting bombs on other police officials in the northern part.
And serbian secret police are well known for these actions.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Ari Ari nuc nuc nuc

#1 on This site you have said 100 times Albanians cannot ever go North Kosovo its defacto Serbia.

#2 On this site you glorify person Killing Police officer in 2011 who was doing his job.

#3 Police in the north are Serbs so why you do not trust Kosovo Serbs now?

Do some search online and you see he was in open conflict with Vucic and Serbian list defacto Vucices party in Kosovo.

I feel bad for his wife and son, may he meet his maker in peace and hope he has clean soull and hands.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)
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Stop assuming.
Did I say that Albanians are scared of Serbs?
Think, what else is happening there now?

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia
(adrian_bucharest, 16 January 2018 18:57)



Adrian,
Your political analysis is as bogus and twisted as your economic analysis. Do yourself a favor by reverting back to your former pastime of collecting scrap metal in order to help feed your 12 brothers an sisters.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
[link]
(Dwight, 16 January 2018 22:33)

@ Dwight- you are correct, mafia is everywhere!
However very sad when mafia is PUT into power by bigger mafia...and legalized!!
How do you fight THAT?
Pristina “authorities” mafia will remain until western mafia decides they are no longer in their interest...and not a moment longer!

Mark

pre 6 godina

Six teenager were killed in 1998 in Peja. Millosevic blamed the Albanians. In 2014 Vucic admitted that those murders were committed by the serbian secret services. Looks like the same story here. Rinse and repeat.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

@ icj1 prosta - yeah, that’s what it means... brate moj, al si prosta!!!

ALB-Canada

pre 6 godina

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)

If he was kept in prison by the Albanians he'd still be alive today!.

Navi

pre 6 godina

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 16 January 2018 19:31)

They didn't have anything to gain when they tried to kill Azem Vlassi last year either. But it seems being a moderate in Kosovo makes one a target.

https://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2017&mm=03&dd=14&nav_id=100748

How soon Albanians forget that one.

Navi

pre 6 godina

It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain!
(Moderate Serb, 16 January 2018 19:41)

And yet he was charged and convicted on the paltry testimonies of a few Albanians who claim they saw him on the bridge in Mitrovica. EULEX did the arrest. Albanians issued the warrant. Why is this hard for you to understand?

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/world/europe/in-balkans-smuggling-forges-a-rare-unity.html

Mir

pre 6 godina

Reply Adrian.Bucharest

Croat hater....You think the Serbs are innocent? Vukovar, Srebrenica, Kosovo...

If the Serbs are so good, why did Europe not side with them. They bombed Serbia!

Croatia is part of the EU for a reason and Serbia is not! Wake up and stop reading your own history books!

I welcome you to Split where we can have a beer and a conversation about your thoughts...

There will never be peace in the region when ignorant people like you make stupid comments.

Killing anyone is evil....period!

Don’t paint everyone with the same paint brush!

Not all Serbs are evil!!!Not all Croats are evil!!

Peace be with you.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Sure malo sutra!!!

Eric

pre 6 godina

Albanians have no interest in killing Ivanovic. Albanians and Kosovo institutions have strong democratic system. Albanians have no history of killing politicians, Serbs and especially Russians kill their own politicians. Anyways, who ever did it, did to stop Serbia’s EU progress and normilizing relations with Kosovo as well as the relationship between Albanians and Serbs. And guess who don’t want Serbia in the EU? Russia ofcourse and Serbian extremist that live happily in their own sh!t hole country. This is nothing new.

Rip

UnikKatil

pre 6 godina

Lol. Like that will ever happen. Keep dreaming!
———-—————————————

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link

MarKo

pre 6 godina

Here's my wild speculation. This is not in the Serbian governments interest. Today a delegation of Japanese business leaders arrived to assess possible investment. Instead of stability, they find a violent crisis. This also doesn't help Serbia negotiate or join the EU

This also does not help pristina because it makes them look bad. It doesn't help eulux or NATO, it hurts and frightens Kosovo Serbs.

So whoever did this wasn't sent by a government. The big question is what they are going to do about it?

LogicAlbanian

pre 6 godina

The people are not afraid of Albanians, but Serbs, the local bullies and gangster riding SUVs with no license plates," he told the magazine. "There are drug dealers on every corner, parents are concerned - Oliver Ivanovic

It’s a shame that Serbian politics even in 2018 still use the same dirty tactics they have used in the past century. Provoking and committing murder

the truth

pre 6 godina

To :Ari Gold and Chi town;
http://www.sandzacke.rs/vijesti/regija/sta-je-u-septembru-govorio-ubijeni-oliver-ivanovic-ne-bojim-se-albanaca-nego-srba/

Check link, please , if you dare answer!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

....I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29) # Comment link....

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.

Serbs on the other hand,helped EULEX to put him i jail and never liked him.
He was considered from serbs as a sellout or some kind of traitor.

Sure Albanians never liked him,but he was living among serbs.
I think sebian mafia in North Mitrovica killed him,but let’s wait the results of the investigation.

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)


Navi,
False!!! It is really frustrating to hear idiots make statements like yours. It makes the rest of us normal Serbs look bad. It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain! On the contrary, it is the Serb thugs in the North connected with the Serb List and Serb gov't that have the most to gain by Ivanocic's death.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

That's not surprising and completely understandable when looking at a news portal in the native language. Comments on B92's Serbian language site is almost entirely comprised of Serbs who routinely criticize their government and its leaders. What few Albanian posts are there are largely meant to offer condolences.

This is normal for any news portal where its main audience is its own people. Juxtapose that to any English language mirror and it's replete with diaspora from the region engaged in a never-ending pissing contest of nationalism. Go to Balkan Insight and the 1990s are alive and well.

The same holds true for Kosovo Albanian news portals where what comments are visible constantly blame their leaders in Pristina for the rampant corruption, political lies, and grievances. No one there gives a damn about Albanian history and comments certainly don't blame Serbs or Serbia for current problems.

Croatian sites have Serbs commiserating with their Croat neighbors offering similar stories of problems and frustrations. And vice versa on Serb sites.

The occasional nationalist is either voted down or skewered in replies.

The only thing still surprising is that people still don't see the predictable pattern all these sites have.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia

Navi

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

Of course, why would they blame Albanians when Serbs live mostly in the north? That doesn't mean Albanian extremists don't want him dead. If he lived among Albanians, he would have been dead already. Remember, Albanians accused him of "war crimes".

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Dont think we should jump to conclusions and blame the albanians. Ivanovic was not liked even by some of its own. Unfortunately lots of Serbian criminals in the north who wouldnt mind seeing him dead.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.

Bob

pre 6 godina

Come on how hard is to figure out who is behind this killing. Ivanovic never was serbs favorite guy. So you serbs own this killing. And this person who killed him most likely never will be arrested because he is o ready in Serbia watching on TV this killing and is protected by Serbian government.

Navi

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.

Free

pre 6 godina

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!
(ChiTown, 16 January 2018 16:27) # Comment link


Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

cry me a river

pre 6 godina

The fact that some of you are blaming the Albanians doesn't surprise me at all. If the Albanians wanted him dead they could've killed him by now. Afterall, he was on trial for war crimes. He could've fled to Serbia but didn't. Maybe he wasn't welcome there. Albanians have nothing to gain out of this. This may delay Brussels talks. I can see how that benefits Vucic and his administration.

Nevertheless, this crime will not be solved.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.

George

pre 6 godina

"This something that we haven’t seen before, and now Serbs are fearing other Serbs more than they feared Albanians in 1999, 2004 and 2008”, Ivanovic declared"

Roger7

pre 6 godina

"Those who launched a witch hunt on Ivanovic; those who were complicit in his unjustifiably long stay in prison; those who have understanding for everyone and everything except for the troubles of Serbian population in Kosovo; those who believe that, even today, the best way to solve a problem is to gun down your political opponent — those people survived, and they are continuing their criminal quest," he said in a statement." Aleksandar KaradjordjevicAn intelligent voice with integrity.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Absolutely devastating. Oliver Ivanovic was one of the last decent political figures remaining in Kosovo, and one of the only who truly believed in reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. His death seriously undermines that and I can't say whether the murderers were Serb, Albanian, or even both since there's evidence on all sides to suggest hardliners wanted him dead. Until more information comes to light all sane heads need to wait before judgement is passed. Of course all the internet crazies have already started the finger pointing based on their own prejudices.

Rest in Peace.

Free

pre 6 godina

Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 15:12) # Comment link
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No, Serbs weren`t blaming Austrians but Austria wanted Austrian Police to do the investigation. And the real intention was for Austria to occupy Serbia.

And YOU are doing the same!

About "Albanians blaming Serbs", Ivanovic was declared Traitor by Belgrade. And now Serb Delegation in Brussels abandoned talks.

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.
(Free, 16 January 2018 14:55)
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Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Speaking about politicians yesterday our prime minister Mihai Tudose was humilated and forced to resign

Our Marshall Liviu Dragnea said the most important is the government program and that the prime minister not passed the 6 months congress evaluation

If German will not accept the new prime minister proposal and will create chaos will start the procedure of suspension of German , the German will not risk after see what happened yesterday

Charaiman Liviu Dragnea make no concesion , first bad prime minister left with fight , this one left humilated

link in English from West http://www.dw.com/en/romanian-prime-minister-mihai-tudose-resigns/a-42158583

Prime Minister Mihai Tudose has been forced out by the PSD as he lost a power struggle with the party boss. Liviu Dragnea rules over the party but is barred from political office because of a criminal conviction.

Romanian Prime Minister Mihai Tudose resigned on Monday after his own party abandoned him in an internal power struggle with the party's all-powerful chairman who, himself, is barred from political office because of a vote-rigging conviction.

Djelli.Art

pre 6 godina

Albanians people have no reason to kill Oliver.
Albanian people have enough problems with our corrupt government,...and Oliver wasn’t Albanian problem ,..and it’s not in our culture to kill people just because his a Serbian.
Yes we are ,..very weary of the Serbian government and there intentions.
Serbian train provocation
Serbian government it’s thinking Kosovo haven’t got any support from USA....with President Trump .
Serbian government all ways have announced we will take back Kosovo
Serbian are watching very closely visa rejection of US ,.for Prime minister Ramush Haradinaj .
Serbian government bought a lot of weapons from Russia ,..for what ,.and against how ????
Serbian president Vucic had meting with Putin recently.
So if you see all the events this murder v’got one name Serbian Government....... this why Albanian never trust Serbian.

Free

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link


This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

"Who's so firm that cannot be seduced"? - Shakespeare. A thug is a thug, is a thug! These thugs were paid by somebody - my guess is Thaci and Haradinaj!!! They've been running their mouths recently and losing support from US/West/EU - they need a crisis so they can play the victim card, AGAIN....

Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.

Namaste Ghandi from India

pre 6 godina

#albanian

Let me state that this does not surprise me at all. Who did this? I don’t know which etnicity pulled the trigger,but i know that it was organized. Personaly i think the serb leaders in belgrade ordered this assasination. What will happen next? I don’t know but i can guarantee you that it will be ugly in the north in the near future.

The winners of all this?

The corruot assholes who are in power in belgrade and prishtina. To me,as an albanian, the current politicians in serbia and kosova are both criminal idiots who are corrupt as hell and who use fear and intimidation to achieve their goals.

Will it be better?
Not in the near future. It will be better when the current politicial generation starves due to hunger or any illness. I really hope vucic dacic thaci and haradinaj will be burried cq burned in the same cemetary as they are all assholes who think only for their own financial interest instead of making lives better for it’s citizens

Free

pre 6 godina

We need no investigation to know who did it. We already knew the murderers even before the guy was found dead.

Albanians inflicted that bottle up to that Martinovic's guy rectum.
Albanian police beat those "peaceful" protesters (without any Provokacija of course) just when Slobo was visiting Kosovo.
Albanians did the Pand Bar Massacre, Racak Massacre and slaughtered all the children and women of Jashari family.
Albanians killed Curavija, Arkan, Stambolic, Ukshin Hoti, Fehmi Agani and of course Djindjic.

Albanians burned the Saint Sava Church in NY.

And not to mention that Albanians have been committing "organ harvesting genocide" against Serbs since XV century. And they are so good at it that no victims have been ever found.

Or you can simply ask: Who benefits from Kosovo destabilisation and then calling Kosovo "a failed state" and shouting "Genocide in Kosovo"?

Who is trying to delay Brussels talks and who is abandoning Brussels talks?

Who has been blackmailing, threatening and terrorizing every Serb who doesn't comply with Belgrade?

Who has threatened and neutralised every Serb opposing the Serb List in Nothern Kosovo during the last elections?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

Criminals dishonour Serbia.

Long may they all rot.
(Bob, 16 January 2018 10:54)



Unfortunately, there are criminals in Serbia. Many are from an ethnic minority of apartheid separatists who reside in Serbia’s southern province of KiM and who lead criminal enterprises in the lawless, dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 11:12)
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You have to give time for answers. Posts don't appear on this site in real time you know.
Albanians are trying to provoke Serbs into retaliation and another war. You think that the US is going to come to your aid again and this time Serbia will lose more than it lost last time.
Obviously this court being set up to round up criminal Albanians is proving too dangerous so the only way to abandon it is to start something very ugly.

Hope this answer is to your liking.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Poor Peggy. She'll never understand Serbian politics.

Of course it was Serbs that killed him.
(Danilo, 16 January 2018 11:04)
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Poor Danilo, just can't accept that Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.

Albanian Boy

pre 6 godina

Hahahahahaha

His own creation caused his death. This is the irony of someone wanting to create criminal safe-havens, they eventually become consumed by their own creation, just like Thaci is scared as fck now.

Rest in piss to this human garbage, let the Serbs shed as many crocodile tears as they can even though they were torching his cars only some short time ago.

Illyria

pre 6 godina

I can't seem to have your reply in my answer from the phone peggy.

But to answer your question, i said i THINK. I don't know, how would I?

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?

Azir

pre 6 godina

Serbs Mafia Politics doesn’t have a pension plan!

When you fall out of favor with the regime they conviently eliminate you and blame someone else....

Most people are smarter than that but then again we are dealing with serbs here people!

We they “ fire you” they actually FIRE AT YOU💀

Zoran

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb..
(Realist, 16 January 2018 10:43)
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Really, who are we? It seems no-one knows who did this except those who organised it. However, this is a significant event and those Albanians trying to point the finger at Serbs, shame on you!

RIP Oliver. I don't feel he was a bad person.

Realist

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb.. and that it was likely planned by the Serbian government to cause tension and another crisis in Kosovo.
When will this ever stop. All the politicians are useless in the Balkans and promoting nationalistic ideas to stay in parliament and rob their people. Shame on you. You are the only ones to blame for the poor economy, high unemployment rate and people living with less than 1 Euro a day.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Well, I'm really sorry for this man and his family.

Anyway, as I remember he was once shoot before 1 year, by his Serbian 'friends'.

Is what happened when you are against Belgrade!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 09:52)
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So if not Albanians who do you think did it?
Surely you must have some idea who and why since you already know that it wans't Albanians.

This is a serious event most likely designed to bring on a desired outcome. That outcome is to provoke Serbia into reacting hastily.
Geez, I wonder who would benefit from this.

The Truth

pre 6 godina

This is what Kosovo authorities and USA warned that anyone that is working with Kosovo Authorities will get Killed by Serbia crime Organization that are illegally in North of kosovo And funded direct from Serbia government,Vucic thinks Kosovo And Usa are daft and he is the cleaver one. Organizations such as this one in North are not just Killing Serbs opostions party’s Leders but lately have thron Hand granades shooting the homes of kosovo Serbs that have join Kosovo Army And anyone that want to integrate into Kosovo government. 1 year a go Oliver ivanovic on media has declared that lista serpska with Vucic wants him Dead he knew something wasn’t right and now dead “WHO KILLED HIM”.It is the time now for kosovo guverment to take full control of North and teach these criminals a lesson or let them leave Kosovo.Truth is coming out and price are paying local Serbs by allowing Serbs criminals from Serbia to hide in kosovo.Just few months a go serbs organise crimes gangs had a fall out and start shootings between them selfs and 2 died and many injured and the 2 dead ones where most wanted criminals in Serbia for murders drug dealers.Look who Serbia is sending in north.
Time to wake you guys serbia government is only Organization of Criminals and mercenaries.

Illyria

pre 6 godina

Noone deserves death, good or bad. We do not have the right to take a life unless protecting our own.

With that said, i wish this serb a speedy recovery although albanian news already speak of him having passed away. I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.

Realist

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb.. and that it was likely planned by the Serbian government to cause tension and another crisis in Kosovo.
When will this ever stop. All the politicians are useless in the Balkans and promoting nationalistic ideas to stay in parliament and rob their people. Shame on you. You are the only ones to blame for the poor economy, high unemployment rate and people living with less than 1 Euro a day.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Well, I'm really sorry for this man and his family.

Anyway, as I remember he was once shoot before 1 year, by his Serbian 'friends'.

Is what happened when you are against Belgrade!

Illyria

pre 6 godina

Noone deserves death, good or bad. We do not have the right to take a life unless protecting our own.

With that said, i wish this serb a speedy recovery although albanian news already speak of him having passed away. I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.

The Truth

pre 6 godina

This is what Kosovo authorities and USA warned that anyone that is working with Kosovo Authorities will get Killed by Serbia crime Organization that are illegally in North of kosovo And funded direct from Serbia government,Vucic thinks Kosovo And Usa are daft and he is the cleaver one. Organizations such as this one in North are not just Killing Serbs opostions party’s Leders but lately have thron Hand granades shooting the homes of kosovo Serbs that have join Kosovo Army And anyone that want to integrate into Kosovo government. 1 year a go Oliver ivanovic on media has declared that lista serpska with Vucic wants him Dead he knew something wasn’t right and now dead “WHO KILLED HIM”.It is the time now for kosovo guverment to take full control of North and teach these criminals a lesson or let them leave Kosovo.Truth is coming out and price are paying local Serbs by allowing Serbs criminals from Serbia to hide in kosovo.Just few months a go serbs organise crimes gangs had a fall out and start shootings between them selfs and 2 died and many injured and the 2 dead ones where most wanted criminals in Serbia for murders drug dealers.Look who Serbia is sending in north.
Time to wake you guys serbia government is only Organization of Criminals and mercenaries.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb..
(Realist, 16 January 2018 10:43)
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Really, who are we? It seems no-one knows who did this except those who organised it. However, this is a significant event and those Albanians trying to point the finger at Serbs, shame on you!

RIP Oliver. I don't feel he was a bad person.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Poor Peggy. She'll never understand Serbian politics.

Of course it was Serbs that killed him.
(Danilo, 16 January 2018 11:04)
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Poor Danilo, just can't accept that Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.

Illyria

pre 6 godina

I can't seem to have your reply in my answer from the phone peggy.

But to answer your question, i said i THINK. I don't know, how would I?

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?

Azir

pre 6 godina

Serbs Mafia Politics doesn’t have a pension plan!

When you fall out of favor with the regime they conviently eliminate you and blame someone else....

Most people are smarter than that but then again we are dealing with serbs here people!

We they “ fire you” they actually FIRE AT YOU💀

Namaste Ghandi from India

pre 6 godina

#albanian

Let me state that this does not surprise me at all. Who did this? I don’t know which etnicity pulled the trigger,but i know that it was organized. Personaly i think the serb leaders in belgrade ordered this assasination. What will happen next? I don’t know but i can guarantee you that it will be ugly in the north in the near future.

The winners of all this?

The corruot assholes who are in power in belgrade and prishtina. To me,as an albanian, the current politicians in serbia and kosova are both criminal idiots who are corrupt as hell and who use fear and intimidation to achieve their goals.

Will it be better?
Not in the near future. It will be better when the current politicial generation starves due to hunger or any illness. I really hope vucic dacic thaci and haradinaj will be burried cq burned in the same cemetary as they are all assholes who think only for their own financial interest instead of making lives better for it’s citizens

Djelli.Art

pre 6 godina

Albanians people have no reason to kill Oliver.
Albanian people have enough problems with our corrupt government,...and Oliver wasn’t Albanian problem ,..and it’s not in our culture to kill people just because his a Serbian.
Yes we are ,..very weary of the Serbian government and there intentions.
Serbian train provocation
Serbian government it’s thinking Kosovo haven’t got any support from USA....with President Trump .
Serbian government all ways have announced we will take back Kosovo
Serbian are watching very closely visa rejection of US ,.for Prime minister Ramush Haradinaj .
Serbian government bought a lot of weapons from Russia ,..for what ,.and against how ????
Serbian president Vucic had meting with Putin recently.
So if you see all the events this murder v’got one name Serbian Government....... this why Albanian never trust Serbian.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 09:52)
==========================
So if not Albanians who do you think did it?
Surely you must have some idea who and why since you already know that it wans't Albanians.

This is a serious event most likely designed to bring on a desired outcome. That outcome is to provoke Serbia into reacting hastily.
Geez, I wonder who would benefit from this.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Absolutely devastating. Oliver Ivanovic was one of the last decent political figures remaining in Kosovo, and one of the only who truly believed in reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. His death seriously undermines that and I can't say whether the murderers were Serb, Albanian, or even both since there's evidence on all sides to suggest hardliners wanted him dead. Until more information comes to light all sane heads need to wait before judgement is passed. Of course all the internet crazies have already started the finger pointing based on their own prejudices.

Rest in Peace.

George

pre 6 godina

"This something that we haven’t seen before, and now Serbs are fearing other Serbs more than they feared Albanians in 1999, 2004 and 2008”, Ivanovic declared"

Albanian Boy

pre 6 godina

Hahahahahaha

His own creation caused his death. This is the irony of someone wanting to create criminal safe-havens, they eventually become consumed by their own creation, just like Thaci is scared as fck now.

Rest in piss to this human garbage, let the Serbs shed as many crocodile tears as they can even though they were torching his cars only some short time ago.

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Dont think we should jump to conclusions and blame the albanians. Ivanovic was not liked even by some of its own. Unfortunately lots of Serbian criminals in the north who wouldnt mind seeing him dead.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.

Free

pre 6 godina

We need no investigation to know who did it. We already knew the murderers even before the guy was found dead.

Albanians inflicted that bottle up to that Martinovic's guy rectum.
Albanian police beat those "peaceful" protesters (without any Provokacija of course) just when Slobo was visiting Kosovo.
Albanians did the Pand Bar Massacre, Racak Massacre and slaughtered all the children and women of Jashari family.
Albanians killed Curavija, Arkan, Stambolic, Ukshin Hoti, Fehmi Agani and of course Djindjic.

Albanians burned the Saint Sava Church in NY.

And not to mention that Albanians have been committing "organ harvesting genocide" against Serbs since XV century. And they are so good at it that no victims have been ever found.

Or you can simply ask: Who benefits from Kosovo destabilisation and then calling Kosovo "a failed state" and shouting "Genocide in Kosovo"?

Who is trying to delay Brussels talks and who is abandoning Brussels talks?

Who has been blackmailing, threatening and terrorizing every Serb who doesn't comply with Belgrade?

Who has threatened and neutralised every Serb opposing the Serb List in Nothern Kosovo during the last elections?

Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.

Free

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link


This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.

cry me a river

pre 6 godina

The fact that some of you are blaming the Albanians doesn't surprise me at all. If the Albanians wanted him dead they could've killed him by now. Afterall, he was on trial for war crimes. He could've fled to Serbia but didn't. Maybe he wasn't welcome there. Albanians have nothing to gain out of this. This may delay Brussels talks. I can see how that benefits Vucic and his administration.

Nevertheless, this crime will not be solved.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 11:12)
==========================
You have to give time for answers. Posts don't appear on this site in real time you know.
Albanians are trying to provoke Serbs into retaliation and another war. You think that the US is going to come to your aid again and this time Serbia will lose more than it lost last time.
Obviously this court being set up to round up criminal Albanians is proving too dangerous so the only way to abandon it is to start something very ugly.

Hope this answer is to your liking.

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)


Navi,
False!!! It is really frustrating to hear idiots make statements like yours. It makes the rest of us normal Serbs look bad. It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain! On the contrary, it is the Serb thugs in the North connected with the Serb List and Serb gov't that have the most to gain by Ivanocic's death.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

Criminals dishonour Serbia.

Long may they all rot.
(Bob, 16 January 2018 10:54)



Unfortunately, there are criminals in Serbia. Many are from an ethnic minority of apartheid separatists who reside in Serbia’s southern province of KiM and who lead criminal enterprises in the lawless, dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

Eric

pre 6 godina

Albanians have no interest in killing Ivanovic. Albanians and Kosovo institutions have strong democratic system. Albanians have no history of killing politicians, Serbs and especially Russians kill their own politicians. Anyways, who ever did it, did to stop Serbia’s EU progress and normilizing relations with Kosovo as well as the relationship between Albanians and Serbs. And guess who don’t want Serbia in the EU? Russia ofcourse and Serbian extremist that live happily in their own sh!t hole country. This is nothing new.

Rip

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

"Who's so firm that cannot be seduced"? - Shakespeare. A thug is a thug, is a thug! These thugs were paid by somebody - my guess is Thaci and Haradinaj!!! They've been running their mouths recently and losing support from US/West/EU - they need a crisis so they can play the victim card, AGAIN....

Free

pre 6 godina

Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 15:12) # Comment link
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No, Serbs weren`t blaming Austrians but Austria wanted Austrian Police to do the investigation. And the real intention was for Austria to occupy Serbia.

And YOU are doing the same!

About "Albanians blaming Serbs", Ivanovic was declared Traitor by Belgrade. And now Serb Delegation in Brussels abandoned talks.

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.

ivan

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29)

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/world/europe/in-balkans-smuggling-forges-a-rare-unity.html

Roger7

pre 6 godina

"Those who launched a witch hunt on Ivanovic; those who were complicit in his unjustifiably long stay in prison; those who have understanding for everyone and everything except for the troubles of Serbian population in Kosovo; those who believe that, even today, the best way to solve a problem is to gun down your political opponent — those people survived, and they are continuing their criminal quest," he said in a statement." Aleksandar KaradjordjevicAn intelligent voice with integrity.

Navi

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.

Free

pre 6 godina

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!
(ChiTown, 16 January 2018 16:27) # Comment link


Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

That's not surprising and completely understandable when looking at a news portal in the native language. Comments on B92's Serbian language site is almost entirely comprised of Serbs who routinely criticize their government and its leaders. What few Albanian posts are there are largely meant to offer condolences.

This is normal for any news portal where its main audience is its own people. Juxtapose that to any English language mirror and it's replete with diaspora from the region engaged in a never-ending pissing contest of nationalism. Go to Balkan Insight and the 1990s are alive and well.

The same holds true for Kosovo Albanian news portals where what comments are visible constantly blame their leaders in Pristina for the rampant corruption, political lies, and grievances. No one there gives a damn about Albanian history and comments certainly don't blame Serbs or Serbia for current problems.

Croatian sites have Serbs commiserating with their Croat neighbors offering similar stories of problems and frustrations. And vice versa on Serb sites.

The occasional nationalist is either voted down or skewered in replies.

The only thing still surprising is that people still don't see the predictable pattern all these sites have.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

....I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29) # Comment link....

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.

Serbs on the other hand,helped EULEX to put him i jail and never liked him.
He was considered from serbs as a sellout or some kind of traitor.

Sure Albanians never liked him,but he was living among serbs.
I think sebian mafia in North Mitrovica killed him,but let’s wait the results of the investigation.

ALB-Canada

pre 6 godina

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)

If he was kept in prison by the Albanians he'd still be alive today!.

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia
(adrian_bucharest, 16 January 2018 18:57)



Adrian,
Your political analysis is as bogus and twisted as your economic analysis. Do yourself a favor by reverting back to your former pastime of collecting scrap metal in order to help feed your 12 brothers an sisters.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Ari Ari nuc nuc nuc

#1 on This site you have said 100 times Albanians cannot ever go North Kosovo its defacto Serbia.

#2 On this site you glorify person Killing Police officer in 2011 who was doing his job.

#3 Police in the north are Serbs so why you do not trust Kosovo Serbs now?

Do some search online and you see he was in open conflict with Vucic and Serbian list defacto Vucices party in Kosovo.

I feel bad for his wife and son, may he meet his maker in peace and hope he has clean soull and hands.

Kosovar

pre 6 godina

Regardless, all lives matter, and this one too. However, its not that difficult to connect the dots and see the picture. The late Ivanovic said, "Šta je u septembru govorio ubijeni Oliver Ivanović: Ne bojim se Albanaca, nego Srba" (I am not afraid of Albanins I am afraid of Serbs, it seems he was executed by the same people who killed the EULEX Police officers sometime back, who killed the Kosovo Police Officer and who are planting bombs on other police officials in the northern part.
And serbian secret police are well known for these actions.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.
(Free, 16 January 2018 14:55)
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Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

Bob

pre 6 godina

Come on how hard is to figure out who is behind this killing. Ivanovic never was serbs favorite guy. So you serbs own this killing. And this person who killed him most likely never will be arrested because he is o ready in Serbia watching on TV this killing and is protected by Serbian government.

LogicAlbanian

pre 6 godina

The people are not afraid of Albanians, but Serbs, the local bullies and gangster riding SUVs with no license plates," he told the magazine. "There are drug dealers on every corner, parents are concerned - Oliver Ivanovic

It’s a shame that Serbian politics even in 2018 still use the same dirty tactics they have used in the past century. Provoking and committing murder

the truth

pre 6 godina

To :Ari Gold and Chi town;
http://www.sandzacke.rs/vijesti/regija/sta-je-u-septembru-govorio-ubijeni-oliver-ivanovic-ne-bojim-se-albanaca-nego-srba/

Check link, please , if you dare answer!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)
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Stop assuming.
Did I say that Albanians are scared of Serbs?
Think, what else is happening there now?

Navi

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

Of course, why would they blame Albanians when Serbs live mostly in the north? That doesn't mean Albanian extremists don't want him dead. If he lived among Albanians, he would have been dead already. Remember, Albanians accused him of "war crimes".

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia

MarKo

pre 6 godina

Here's my wild speculation. This is not in the Serbian governments interest. Today a delegation of Japanese business leaders arrived to assess possible investment. Instead of stability, they find a violent crisis. This also doesn't help Serbia negotiate or join the EU

This also does not help pristina because it makes them look bad. It doesn't help eulux or NATO, it hurts and frightens Kosovo Serbs.

So whoever did this wasn't sent by a government. The big question is what they are going to do about it?

Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

Let's calm down and let the investigation figure out who did it. Of course, each ethnic group doesn't trust the other, so it will be hard to do an unbiased investigation. Nevertheless, don't rush to judgment. That's why the Balkans are always in chaos. Chaos results from not thinking carefully before acting. Let's all be calm and patient.

Mark

pre 6 godina

Six teenager were killed in 1998 in Peja. Millosevic blamed the Albanians. In 2014 Vucic admitted that those murders were committed by the serbian secret services. Looks like the same story here. Rinse and repeat.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.
(sarma, 17 January 2018 16:25)

Well, the Serbian police has also more police officers than EULEX, KFOR and KSF have. So, which part of my statement does not fly?! Didn't the Serbian police fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?

ivan

pre 6 godina

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

It is wrong whoever did this whether Serb or Albo. The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours. I'm rooting for the latter.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Speaking about politicians yesterday our prime minister Mihai Tudose was humilated and forced to resign

Our Marshall Liviu Dragnea said the most important is the government program and that the prime minister not passed the 6 months congress evaluation

If German will not accept the new prime minister proposal and will create chaos will start the procedure of suspension of German , the German will not risk after see what happened yesterday

Charaiman Liviu Dragnea make no concesion , first bad prime minister left with fight , this one left humilated

link in English from West http://www.dw.com/en/romanian-prime-minister-mihai-tudose-resigns/a-42158583

Prime Minister Mihai Tudose has been forced out by the PSD as he lost a power struggle with the party boss. Liviu Dragnea rules over the party but is barred from political office because of a criminal conviction.

Romanian Prime Minister Mihai Tudose resigned on Monday after his own party abandoned him in an internal power struggle with the party's all-powerful chairman who, himself, is barred from political office because of a vote-rigging conviction.

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Sure malo sutra!!!

Darko

pre 6 godina

Serbia is playing dirty games... if u think u can destabile kosovo. U r wrong. Cuz nato and kfor is in kosovo.. what you are doing. Is just stoping serbia's way to EU... nice

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Avni, UDBA was Yugoslavian. We the Serbs didn't like much Yugoslavia. We the Serbs were very oppressed in Yugoslavia. Our ancestors private properties were stolen from Yugoslavia which affected lives of us Serbs in very negative ways. We spoke Serbian language which unfortunately officially didn't existed during the Yugoslavia.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

yeah, that’s what it means...
(Watcher, 17 January 2018 01:10)

Great! That means that we are in agreement that Ari Gold's suggestion was total nonsense...

UnikKatil

pre 6 godina

Lol. Like that will ever happen. Keep dreaming!
———-—————————————

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Watcher
You are correct that there are also criminals in Kosovo that are protected and used by local politicians and these politicians are protected by USA etc.
But this case does not seem to have anything to do with Albanians (so far) so I am not sure what your comment means.

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

sj

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)


A land registry is a valid data base in a place where there is rule of law and you can take matters to a real court to obtain satisfaction. Kosovo does not have rule of law. An Albo neighbor can accuse a Serb that they are a war criminal, pay some someone working in the land registry and in one swift move the original landholder no longer exists. That is how Kosova works.

Mir

pre 6 godina

Reply Adrian.Bucharest

Croat hater....You think the Serbs are innocent? Vukovar, Srebrenica, Kosovo...

If the Serbs are so good, why did Europe not side with them. They bombed Serbia!

Croatia is part of the EU for a reason and Serbia is not! Wake up and stop reading your own history books!

I welcome you to Split where we can have a beer and a conversation about your thoughts...

There will never be peace in the region when ignorant people like you make stupid comments.

Killing anyone is evil....period!

Don’t paint everyone with the same paint brush!

Not all Serbs are evil!!!Not all Croats are evil!!

Peace be with you.

Navi

pre 6 godina

It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain!
(Moderate Serb, 16 January 2018 19:41)

And yet he was charged and convicted on the paltry testimonies of a few Albanians who claim they saw him on the bridge in Mitrovica. EULEX did the arrest. Albanians issued the warrant. Why is this hard for you to understand?

ian

pre 6 godina

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)

It makes more sense than anything you have ever said dear. Albanians want to provoke another war because they feel they will get the same protection from nato again, use your brain for a second. make no mistake, they are terrified of a one on one war with Serbia, but they feel that they will be protected again. they want nato to come and do their bidding for them to slow Serbia down. nato may or may not protect you again, but I can tell you it will be a totally different battle this time.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46

Based on this comment icj, I now understand why you restate comments with your own twist - if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged. Did you learn this in your Troll 101 class? I hope your second original thought is better, I give you a F+ for the first one. And see me after class so I can put you over my knee.....

icj1

pre 6 godina

In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

Ok, and according to your definition above, Serbia's police is a complete disaster, indeed.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09)

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)

Navi

pre 6 godina

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 16 January 2018 19:31)

They didn't have anything to gain when they tried to kill Azem Vlassi last year either. But it seems being a moderate in Kosovo makes one a target.

https://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2017&mm=03&dd=14&nav_id=100748

How soon Albanians forget that one.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
[link]
(Dwight, 16 January 2018 22:33)

@ Dwight- you are correct, mafia is everywhere!
However very sad when mafia is PUT into power by bigger mafia...and legalized!!
How do you fight THAT?
Pristina “authorities” mafia will remain until western mafia decides they are no longer in their interest...and not a moment longer!

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!
(icj1, 17 January 2018 19:17)

The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 19:46)

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:45)

EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 23:21)

Sure, I'm glad you realised that, too :) But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09

Hey my love! By the way, it was a statement, not a question....

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"
That statement doesn't fly a bit. Just follow comments below for an explanation why doesn't fly. Also by the way you compared event from like 15 years ago with an just recent event which doesn't fly as well.
In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

@ icj1 prosta - yeah, that’s what it means... brate moj, al si prosta!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:50)

icj: More nonsense? Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'? Hmmm, kind of ironic when you put it this way, no?!?!?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.

icj1

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"

That statement doesn't fly a bit.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

"No, no, no" what dear?! That is exactly what I wrote lol. However, you still have not explained why that statement doesn't fly a bit. Aren't you aware that the Serbian police did indeed fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?! It appears news takes almost 15 years to reach you, dear!!!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical my Little Einstein! And, if you really felt the need to answer it, it was a "yes or no" question - it didn't require you weak acumen....

icj1

pre 6 godina

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, JFK tells us that quantity of the police officers is completely irrelevant. Besides EULEX, KFOR was able to outnumber Serbian police officers at any time. Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police. You used to compare EULEX, KFOR and KSF with Serbian police and that doesn't fly.

icj1

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...
(ChiTown, 22 January 2018 22:01)

Why should I look it up?! :)

The Truth

pre 6 godina

This is what Kosovo authorities and USA warned that anyone that is working with Kosovo Authorities will get Killed by Serbia crime Organization that are illegally in North of kosovo And funded direct from Serbia government,Vucic thinks Kosovo And Usa are daft and he is the cleaver one. Organizations such as this one in North are not just Killing Serbs opostions party’s Leders but lately have thron Hand granades shooting the homes of kosovo Serbs that have join Kosovo Army And anyone that want to integrate into Kosovo government. 1 year a go Oliver ivanovic on media has declared that lista serpska with Vucic wants him Dead he knew something wasn’t right and now dead “WHO KILLED HIM”.It is the time now for kosovo guverment to take full control of North and teach these criminals a lesson or let them leave Kosovo.Truth is coming out and price are paying local Serbs by allowing Serbs criminals from Serbia to hide in kosovo.Just few months a go serbs organise crimes gangs had a fall out and start shootings between them selfs and 2 died and many injured and the 2 dead ones where most wanted criminals in Serbia for murders drug dealers.Look who Serbia is sending in north.
Time to wake you guys serbia government is only Organization of Criminals and mercenaries.

Realist

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb.. and that it was likely planned by the Serbian government to cause tension and another crisis in Kosovo.
When will this ever stop. All the politicians are useless in the Balkans and promoting nationalistic ideas to stay in parliament and rob their people. Shame on you. You are the only ones to blame for the poor economy, high unemployment rate and people living with less than 1 Euro a day.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 09:52)
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So if not Albanians who do you think did it?
Surely you must have some idea who and why since you already know that it wans't Albanians.

This is a serious event most likely designed to bring on a desired outcome. That outcome is to provoke Serbia into reacting hastily.
Geez, I wonder who would benefit from this.

Albanian Boy

pre 6 godina

Hahahahahaha

His own creation caused his death. This is the irony of someone wanting to create criminal safe-havens, they eventually become consumed by their own creation, just like Thaci is scared as fck now.

Rest in piss to this human garbage, let the Serbs shed as many crocodile tears as they can even though they were torching his cars only some short time ago.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Poor Peggy. She'll never understand Serbian politics.

Of course it was Serbs that killed him.
(Danilo, 16 January 2018 11:04)
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Poor Danilo, just can't accept that Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Well, I'm really sorry for this man and his family.

Anyway, as I remember he was once shoot before 1 year, by his Serbian 'friends'.

Is what happened when you are against Belgrade!

Azir

pre 6 godina

Serbs Mafia Politics doesn’t have a pension plan!

When you fall out of favor with the regime they conviently eliminate you and blame someone else....

Most people are smarter than that but then again we are dealing with serbs here people!

We they “ fire you” they actually FIRE AT YOU💀

Illyria

pre 6 godina

Noone deserves death, good or bad. We do not have the right to take a life unless protecting our own.

With that said, i wish this serb a speedy recovery although albanian news already speak of him having passed away. I do not believe it was albanians. This have to do with the technical talks that were to be resumed today.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

We all know that this murder was committed by an ethnical serb..
(Realist, 16 January 2018 10:43)
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Really, who are we? It seems no-one knows who did this except those who organised it. However, this is a significant event and those Albanians trying to point the finger at Serbs, shame on you!

RIP Oliver. I don't feel he was a bad person.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?
(Illyria, 16 January 2018 11:12)
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You have to give time for answers. Posts don't appear on this site in real time you know.
Albanians are trying to provoke Serbs into retaliation and another war. You think that the US is going to come to your aid again and this time Serbia will lose more than it lost last time.
Obviously this court being set up to round up criminal Albanians is proving too dangerous so the only way to abandon it is to start something very ugly.

Hope this answer is to your liking.

Free

pre 6 godina

We need no investigation to know who did it. We already knew the murderers even before the guy was found dead.

Albanians inflicted that bottle up to that Martinovic's guy rectum.
Albanian police beat those "peaceful" protesters (without any Provokacija of course) just when Slobo was visiting Kosovo.
Albanians did the Pand Bar Massacre, Racak Massacre and slaughtered all the children and women of Jashari family.
Albanians killed Curavija, Arkan, Stambolic, Ukshin Hoti, Fehmi Agani and of course Djindjic.

Albanians burned the Saint Sava Church in NY.

And not to mention that Albanians have been committing "organ harvesting genocide" against Serbs since XV century. And they are so good at it that no victims have been ever found.

Or you can simply ask: Who benefits from Kosovo destabilisation and then calling Kosovo "a failed state" and shouting "Genocide in Kosovo"?

Who is trying to delay Brussels talks and who is abandoning Brussels talks?

Who has been blackmailing, threatening and terrorizing every Serb who doesn't comply with Belgrade?

Who has threatened and neutralised every Serb opposing the Serb List in Nothern Kosovo during the last elections?

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia

Illyria

pre 6 godina

I can't seem to have your reply in my answer from the phone peggy.

But to answer your question, i said i THINK. I don't know, how would I?

And also, Serbia wins. How do albanians win considering the north listens to Serbia. It is for Belgrade only to replace Oliver. How can Albanians win by murdering him?

Djelli.Art

pre 6 godina

Albanians people have no reason to kill Oliver.
Albanian people have enough problems with our corrupt government,...and Oliver wasn’t Albanian problem ,..and it’s not in our culture to kill people just because his a Serbian.
Yes we are ,..very weary of the Serbian government and there intentions.
Serbian train provocation
Serbian government it’s thinking Kosovo haven’t got any support from USA....with President Trump .
Serbian government all ways have announced we will take back Kosovo
Serbian are watching very closely visa rejection of US ,.for Prime minister Ramush Haradinaj .
Serbian government bought a lot of weapons from Russia ,..for what ,.and against how ????
Serbian president Vucic had meting with Putin recently.
So if you see all the events this murder v’got one name Serbian Government....... this why Albanian never trust Serbian.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

....I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29) # Comment link....

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.

Serbs on the other hand,helped EULEX to put him i jail and never liked him.
He was considered from serbs as a sellout or some kind of traitor.

Sure Albanians never liked him,but he was living among serbs.
I think sebian mafia in North Mitrovica killed him,but let’s wait the results of the investigation.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

Bob

pre 6 godina

Come on how hard is to figure out who is behind this killing. Ivanovic never was serbs favorite guy. So you serbs own this killing. And this person who killed him most likely never will be arrested because he is o ready in Serbia watching on TV this killing and is protected by Serbian government.

LogicAlbanian

pre 6 godina

The people are not afraid of Albanians, but Serbs, the local bullies and gangster riding SUVs with no license plates," he told the magazine. "There are drug dealers on every corner, parents are concerned - Oliver Ivanovic

It’s a shame that Serbian politics even in 2018 still use the same dirty tactics they have used in the past century. Provoking and committing murder

Eric

pre 6 godina

Albanians have no interest in killing Ivanovic. Albanians and Kosovo institutions have strong democratic system. Albanians have no history of killing politicians, Serbs and especially Russians kill their own politicians. Anyways, who ever did it, did to stop Serbia’s EU progress and normilizing relations with Kosovo as well as the relationship between Albanians and Serbs. And guess who don’t want Serbia in the EU? Russia ofcourse and Serbian extremist that live happily in their own sh!t hole country. This is nothing new.

Rip

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 6 godina

Criminals dishonour Serbia.

Long may they all rot.
(Bob, 16 January 2018 10:54)



Unfortunately, there are criminals in Serbia. Many are from an ethnic minority of apartheid separatists who reside in Serbia’s southern province of KiM and who lead criminal enterprises in the lawless, dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

"Who's so firm that cannot be seduced"? - Shakespeare. A thug is a thug, is a thug! These thugs were paid by somebody - my guess is Thaci and Haradinaj!!! They've been running their mouths recently and losing support from US/West/EU - they need a crisis so they can play the victim card, AGAIN....

Navi

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.

Bilbao

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Sure malo sutra!!!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albanians are running scared and the only way out is to provoke Serbs into another war.
(Peggy, 16 January 2018 12:02)

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)
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Stop assuming.
Did I say that Albanians are scared of Serbs?
Think, what else is happening there now?

Free

pre 6 godina

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link


This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

This is EXACTLY what Austro-Hungary said when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot.
(Free, 16 January 2018 14:55)
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Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.
(Free, 16 January 2018 15:54)

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)


Navi,
False!!! It is really frustrating to hear idiots make statements like yours. It makes the rest of us normal Serbs look bad. It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain! On the contrary, it is the Serb thugs in the North connected with the Serb List and Serb gov't that have the most to gain by Ivanocic's death.

UnikKatil

pre 6 godina

Lol. Like that will ever happen. Keep dreaming!
———-—————————————

It's time to get Serbian police back in KiM. As we can see from the many posts here, without a shred of evidence, Albanians are blaming Serbs. Therefore, we can only have a proper investigation by the Serbian police. The time has come.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 14:43) # Comment link

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...

Kosovar

pre 6 godina

Regardless, all lives matter, and this one too. However, its not that difficult to connect the dots and see the picture. The late Ivanovic said, "Šta je u septembru govorio ubijeni Oliver Ivanović: Ne bojim se Albanaca, nego Srba" (I am not afraid of Albanins I am afraid of Serbs, it seems he was executed by the same people who killed the EULEX Police officers sometime back, who killed the Kosovo Police Officer and who are planting bombs on other police officials in the northern part.
And serbian secret police are well known for these actions.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Absolutely devastating. Oliver Ivanovic was one of the last decent political figures remaining in Kosovo, and one of the only who truly believed in reconciliation between Serbs and Albanians. His death seriously undermines that and I can't say whether the murderers were Serb, Albanian, or even both since there's evidence on all sides to suggest hardliners wanted him dead. Until more information comes to light all sane heads need to wait before judgement is passed. Of course all the internet crazies have already started the finger pointing based on their own prejudices.

Rest in Peace.

cry me a river

pre 6 godina

The fact that some of you are blaming the Albanians doesn't surprise me at all. If the Albanians wanted him dead they could've killed him by now. Afterall, he was on trial for war crimes. He could've fled to Serbia but didn't. Maybe he wasn't welcome there. Albanians have nothing to gain out of this. This may delay Brussels talks. I can see how that benefits Vucic and his administration.

Nevertheless, this crime will not be solved.

Navi

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

Of course, why would they blame Albanians when Serbs live mostly in the north? That doesn't mean Albanian extremists don't want him dead. If he lived among Albanians, he would have been dead already. Remember, Albanians accused him of "war crimes".

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/24/world/europe/in-balkans-smuggling-forges-a-rare-unity.html

Watcher

pre 6 godina

adrian_bucharest

Mafia is everywhere but as far as I can see, the mafia in Serb areas of Kosovo is untouchable because it does dirty work for the Serbian government. In exchange it is protected.
One such person allegedly is Zvonko Veselinovic. I wonder will his name crop up. Any major violence or "protest" he is involved in seems to have him in the background and he has been mentioned often as the organiser of the savamala demolition crew
[link]
(Dwight, 16 January 2018 22:33)

@ Dwight- you are correct, mafia is everywhere!
However very sad when mafia is PUT into power by bigger mafia...and legalized!!
How do you fight THAT?
Pristina “authorities” mafia will remain until western mafia decides they are no longer in their interest...and not a moment longer!

Moderate Serb

pre 6 godina

Albanian are not criminals , Serbs are not criminals , Gipsy are not criminals

things like this can happen anywhere , mafia is everywhere

the most big criminals are the Croats with Ustasha killed so many Serbs that you even can count if you start 1 ,2 , 3 ,4 ,5 ,6 in 24 hours

That is how are the things

German people accepted in a way the past more than Croats

I like Croats for be superior to Serbs in everything but the Croats are criminals . Serbs always blame someting and complain but Serbs are from far away more humans than Croats

This crime from Kosovo => Mafia
(adrian_bucharest, 16 January 2018 18:57)



Adrian,
Your political analysis is as bogus and twisted as your economic analysis. Do yourself a favor by reverting back to your former pastime of collecting scrap metal in order to help feed your 12 brothers an sisters.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.
(sarma, 17 January 2018 16:25)

Well, the Serbian police has also more police officers than EULEX, KFOR and KSF have. So, which part of my statement does not fly?! Didn't the Serbian police fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Speaking about politicians yesterday our prime minister Mihai Tudose was humilated and forced to resign

Our Marshall Liviu Dragnea said the most important is the government program and that the prime minister not passed the 6 months congress evaluation

If German will not accept the new prime minister proposal and will create chaos will start the procedure of suspension of German , the German will not risk after see what happened yesterday

Charaiman Liviu Dragnea make no concesion , first bad prime minister left with fight , this one left humilated

link in English from West http://www.dw.com/en/romanian-prime-minister-mihai-tudose-resigns/a-42158583

Prime Minister Mihai Tudose has been forced out by the PSD as he lost a power struggle with the party boss. Liviu Dragnea rules over the party but is barred from political office because of a criminal conviction.

Romanian Prime Minister Mihai Tudose resigned on Monday after his own party abandoned him in an internal power struggle with the party's all-powerful chairman who, himself, is barred from political office because of a vote-rigging conviction.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

"Those who launched a witch hunt on Ivanovic; those who were complicit in his unjustifiably long stay in prison; those who have understanding for everyone and everything except for the troubles of Serbian population in Kosovo; those who believe that, even today, the best way to solve a problem is to gun down your political opponent — those people survived, and they are continuing their criminal quest," he said in a statement." Aleksandar KaradjordjevicAn intelligent voice with integrity.

George

pre 6 godina

"This something that we haven’t seen before, and now Serbs are fearing other Serbs more than they feared Albanians in 1999, 2004 and 2008”, Ivanovic declared"

Free

pre 6 godina

Free: And wouldn't this "so called" statement provide a perfect excuse for Haradinaj and his thugs to carry out the murder? Think about it.... I know it's tough for you, but try!!!
(ChiTown, 16 January 2018 16:27) # Comment link


Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

@ icj1 prosta - yeah, that’s what it means... brate moj, al si prosta!!!

the truth

pre 6 godina

To :Ari Gold and Chi town;
http://www.sandzacke.rs/vijesti/regija/sta-je-u-septembru-govorio-ubijeni-oliver-ivanovic-ne-bojim-se-albanaca-nego-srba/

Check link, please , if you dare answer!

ivan

pre 6 godina

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

It is wrong whoever did this whether Serb or Albo. The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours. I'm rooting for the latter.

Namaste Ghandi from India

pre 6 godina

#albanian

Let me state that this does not surprise me at all. Who did this? I don’t know which etnicity pulled the trigger,but i know that it was organized. Personaly i think the serb leaders in belgrade ordered this assasination. What will happen next? I don’t know but i can guarantee you that it will be ugly in the north in the near future.

The winners of all this?

The corruot assholes who are in power in belgrade and prishtina. To me,as an albanian, the current politicians in serbia and kosova are both criminal idiots who are corrupt as hell and who use fear and intimidation to achieve their goals.

Will it be better?
Not in the near future. It will be better when the current politicial generation starves due to hunger or any illness. I really hope vucic dacic thaci and haradinaj will be burried cq burned in the same cemetary as they are all assholes who think only for their own financial interest instead of making lives better for it’s citizens

Free

pre 6 godina

Seriously, what does that have to do with the price of fish? Serbs weren't blaming Austrians for his death.
(Zoran, 16 January 2018 15:12) # Comment link
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No, Serbs weren`t blaming Austrians but Austria wanted Austrian Police to do the investigation. And the real intention was for Austria to occupy Serbia.

And YOU are doing the same!

About "Albanians blaming Serbs", Ivanovic was declared Traitor by Belgrade. And now Serb Delegation in Brussels abandoned talks.

And he himself declared his life to be in danger by Serbs rather than Albanians. This is old news for everyone in Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 6 godina

Tell that to Serbian media, to tens Serbian comments who blame Serb criminals in N.Kosovo and to thousands of "recommends" on those comments.
All of them "Albanian trolls" of course.
(Free, 16 January 2018 16:53)

That's not surprising and completely understandable when looking at a news portal in the native language. Comments on B92's Serbian language site is almost entirely comprised of Serbs who routinely criticize their government and its leaders. What few Albanian posts are there are largely meant to offer condolences.

This is normal for any news portal where its main audience is its own people. Juxtapose that to any English language mirror and it's replete with diaspora from the region engaged in a never-ending pissing contest of nationalism. Go to Balkan Insight and the 1990s are alive and well.

The same holds true for Kosovo Albanian news portals where what comments are visible constantly blame their leaders in Pristina for the rampant corruption, political lies, and grievances. No one there gives a damn about Albanian history and comments certainly don't blame Serbs or Serbia for current problems.

Croatian sites have Serbs commiserating with their Croat neighbors offering similar stories of problems and frustrations. And vice versa on Serb sites.

The occasional nationalist is either voted down or skewered in replies.

The only thing still surprising is that people still don't see the predictable pattern all these sites have.

Navi

pre 6 godina

It is well documented that EULEX ordered the arrest of O.I.on request of people connected with the Serb list. What could Albanians have to gain!
(Moderate Serb, 16 January 2018 19:41)

And yet he was charged and convicted on the paltry testimonies of a few Albanians who claim they saw him on the bridge in Mitrovica. EULEX did the arrest. Albanians issued the warrant. Why is this hard for you to understand?

Darko

pre 6 godina

Serbia is playing dirty games... if u think u can destabile kosovo. U r wrong. Cuz nato and kfor is in kosovo.. what you are doing. Is just stoping serbia's way to EU... nice

sarma

pre 6 godina

@Avni, UDBA was Yugoslavian. We the Serbs didn't like much Yugoslavia. We the Serbs were very oppressed in Yugoslavia. Our ancestors private properties were stolen from Yugoslavia which affected lives of us Serbs in very negative ways. We spoke Serbian language which unfortunately officially didn't existed during the Yugoslavia.

Dwight

pre 6 godina

@Watcher
You are correct that there are also criminals in Kosovo that are protected and used by local politicians and these politicians are protected by USA etc.
But this case does not seem to have anything to do with Albanians (so far) so I am not sure what your comment means.

icj1

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)

yeah, that’s what it means...
(Watcher, 17 January 2018 01:10)

Great! That means that we are in agreement that Ari Gold's suggestion was total nonsense...

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:45)

EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 23:21)

Sure, I'm glad you realised that, too :) But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09)

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical my Little Einstein! And, if you really felt the need to answer it, it was a "yes or no" question - it didn't require you weak acumen....

Mir

pre 6 godina

Reply Adrian.Bucharest

Croat hater....You think the Serbs are innocent? Vukovar, Srebrenica, Kosovo...

If the Serbs are so good, why did Europe not side with them. They bombed Serbia!

Croatia is part of the EU for a reason and Serbia is not! Wake up and stop reading your own history books!

I welcome you to Split where we can have a beer and a conversation about your thoughts...

There will never be peace in the region when ignorant people like you make stupid comments.

Killing anyone is evil....period!

Don’t paint everyone with the same paint brush!

Not all Serbs are evil!!!Not all Croats are evil!!

Peace be with you.

Navi

pre 6 godina

Can you tell me one reason why Albanians wanted to kill Ivanovic?
Albanians have nothing to gain by his death.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 16 January 2018 19:31)

They didn't have anything to gain when they tried to kill Azem Vlassi last year either. But it seems being a moderate in Kosovo makes one a target.

https://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2017&mm=03&dd=14&nav_id=100748

How soon Albanians forget that one.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

We dont know yet who did this so I wont make assumptions. One thing is certain though, EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures. Serbian police needs to come back to Northern Kosovo.
(Ari Gold, 16 January 2018 16:44)

Ari Ari nuc nuc nuc

#1 on This site you have said 100 times Albanians cannot ever go North Kosovo its defacto Serbia.

#2 On this site you glorify person Killing Police officer in 2011 who was doing his job.

#3 Police in the north are Serbs so why you do not trust Kosovo Serbs now?

Do some search online and you see he was in open conflict with Vucic and Serbian list defacto Vucices party in Kosovo.

I feel bad for his wife and son, may he meet his maker in peace and hope he has clean soull and hands.

ivan

pre 6 godina

I predict,once it is proven that Albos are behind the murder, it will lead to WAR. SERBIA will retake total control of KOSOVO & METOHIJA. The international community will rally behind BEOGRAD. NO MIRE ALBOS.
(Mike Sujdovic, 16 January 2018 17:29)

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.

icj1

pre 6 godina

It only takes a solid justified reason to trigger a war. At the very least, let us not allow Ivanovic's life to go in vain. If Albo's are behind this, then let it be an all out war. If the Serbs are behind this, then hang the bastards.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 17:34)

Sorry, but what's the logic for the difference?! Somebody killed Ivanovic and, I agree with you, that somebody should be punished. But why if that somebody is a Serb, you'd only punish that somebody, but if that somebody is an Albo, than you'd start a war, instead of only punishing that somebody?!!!
(icj1, 17 January 2018 19:17)

The difference, in my logic, is that if it is an Albo it justifies us going into war and reclaiming what is rightfully ours.
(ivan, 17 January 2018 19:46)

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

That's even more nonsense! What if the only thing that Albo owns is a parcel of land in, say, Belgrade, will you go into war against Belgrade to reclaim "what is rightfully" yours?!!!
(icj1, 18 January 2018 15:50)

icj: More nonsense? Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'? Hmmm, kind of ironic when you put it this way, no?!?!?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

Ok, and according to your definition above, Serbia's police is a complete disaster, indeed.

MarKo

pre 6 godina

Here's my wild speculation. This is not in the Serbian governments interest. Today a delegation of Japanese business leaders arrived to assess possible investment. Instead of stability, they find a violent crisis. This also doesn't help Serbia negotiate or join the EU

This also does not help pristina because it makes them look bad. It doesn't help eulux or NATO, it hurts and frightens Kosovo Serbs.

So whoever did this wasn't sent by a government. The big question is what they are going to do about it?

Mark

pre 6 godina

Six teenager were killed in 1998 in Peja. Millosevic blamed the Albanians. In 2014 Vucic admitted that those murders were committed by the serbian secret services. Looks like the same story here. Rinse and repeat.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.
(sarma, 18 January 2018 00:16)

Sure... But, you still did not clarify which part of my writing that "The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!!" does not fly!

ian

pre 6 godina

That makes no sense, dear! If you are afraid of X, why would you provoke a fight with X?!!! You might want to put your brain to work a bit next time (hopefully it won't overheat)...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:19)

It makes more sense than anything you have ever said dear. Albanians want to provoke another war because they feel they will get the same protection from nato again, use your brain for a second. make no mistake, they are terrified of a one on one war with Serbia, but they feel that they will be protected again. they want nato to come and do their bidding for them to slow Serbia down. nato may or may not protect you again, but I can tell you it will be a totally different battle this time.

sj

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)


A land registry is a valid data base in a place where there is rule of law and you can take matters to a real court to obtain satisfaction. Kosovo does not have rule of law. An Albo neighbor can accuse a Serb that they are a war criminal, pay some someone working in the land registry and in one swift move the original landholder no longer exists. That is how Kosova works.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46)

if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged.
(ChiTown, 19 January 2018 13:31)

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, I just replied to your question. Your question is indeed intellectually challenged for confusing criminal accusations with changes in land ownership...
(icj1, 19 January 2018 16:09

Hey my love! By the way, it was a statement, not a question....

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"
That statement doesn't fly a bit. Just follow comments below for an explanation why doesn't fly. Also by the way you compared event from like 15 years ago with an just recent event which doesn't fly as well.
In order to call in one country police as an "a complete disaster.." that country have to have lesser and lesser population count on year by year basis. Just one man opinion.

icj1

pre 6 godina

@icj1, Oh no, no, no! Someone under icj1 wrote precisely like this:
"huh?! The Serbian police was not able to even protect the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade!!! So, if EULEX, KFOR and KSF are all complete failures according to you because this murder happened, that means that the Serbian police is a complete disaster...
(icj1, 16 January 2018 22:12)"

That statement doesn't fly a bit.
(sarma, 20 January 2018 21:51)

"No, no, no" what dear?! That is exactly what I wrote lol. However, you still have not explained why that statement doesn't fly a bit. Aren't you aware that the Serbian police did indeed fail to prevent the murder of the Serbian prime minister in the middle of Belgrade?! It appears news takes almost 15 years to reach you, dear!!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

By the way, it was a statement, not a question....
(ChiTown, 20 January 2018 16:51)

Feel free to sort that out with the "ChiTown" who wrote the original post above, ending it with a question mark (in case you are not aware, the punctuation mark "?" indicates a question in English) :)
(icj1, 21 January 2018 03:10)

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...
(ChiTown, 22 January 2018 22:01)

Why should I look it up?! :)

ALB-Canada

pre 6 godina

But he was accused of "war crimes" by Albanians and released.
(Navi, 16 January 2018 16:18)

If he was kept in prison by the Albanians he'd still be alive today!.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, not necessarily since Serbian police is in charge of the security and safety of far more people than EULEX, KFOR and KSF are. Therefore your statement doesn't fly a bit since it is quite the opposite. EULEX, KFOR and KSF are complete disaster. PS: That doesn't mean that I support many laws enforceable by the Serbian police.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, JFK tells us that quantity of the police officers is completely irrelevant. Besides EULEX, KFOR was able to outnumber Serbian police officers at any time. Prevention matters are relevant such as helmets, bulletproof vest and movement as close as possible near the firearmed people.

sarma

pre 6 godina

@icj1, EULEX, KFOR and KSF aren't comparable with Serbian police. You used to compare EULEX, KFOR and KSF with Serbian police and that doesn't fly.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Let's say a Serbian 74 year old man has a parcel of land in Kosovo, and his Albanian neighbor accuses him of war crime so he can get his land - "is it rightfully his'?
(ChiTown, 18 January 2018 21:44)

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

War crimes accusations by person X against person Y don't change the ownership of any parcel of land, dear. To get an answer to your question about the ownership of a parcel of land, you need to check the land registry, not criminal accusations records.
(icj1, 19 January 2018 02:46

Based on this comment icj, I now understand why you restate comments with your own twist - if this is the one single original thought that I asked from you, you truly are intellectually challenged. Did you learn this in your Troll 101 class? I hope your second original thought is better, I give you a F+ for the first one. And see me after class so I can put you over my knee.....

Hank the Tank

pre 6 godina

Dont think we should jump to conclusions and blame the albanians. Ivanovic was not liked even by some of its own. Unfortunately lots of Serbian criminals in the north who wouldnt mind seeing him dead.

Raisin Scone

pre 6 godina

Let's calm down and let the investigation figure out who did it. Of course, each ethnic group doesn't trust the other, so it will be hard to do an unbiased investigation. Nevertheless, don't rush to judgment. That's why the Balkans are always in chaos. Chaos results from not thinking carefully before acting. Let's all be calm and patient.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

The question was rhetorical
(ChiTown, 21 January 2018 17:54)

So it was a question and not a statement lol
(icj1, 22 January 2018 14:31)

Look up rhetorical...