factman
pre 6 godina
To the dude who listed a fairly un-impressive list of advancements i say this:
There is no momentum toward what you desire.
Wednesday, 27.09.2017.
09:52
Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic has said that "a difficult compromise" when it comes to Kosovo does not mean that only one side is satisfied.
Izvor: B92
pre 6 godina
To the dude who listed a fairly un-impressive list of advancements i say this:
There is no momentum toward what you desire.
pre 6 godina
Vucic has recognized Kosovo. He met with thaci and shook his hand. The question is why doesn't he say that? Because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia's constitution. It's not enough for Europe. Europe doesn't want recognition of Kosovo just as government policy but state policy. What would happen if Serbs turned against Kosovo independence? 63% of Serbs have said Kosovo is independent nation so Vucic can have his pro independence policy and have no consequence for violating constitution. But what if Serbs stopped being pro Kosovo independence?
pre 6 godina
Zoran
"Another war" and the western powers will wipe your pathetic existence away. We will not give you gypsies a inch of land. We will erase everything serbian in the region and the last remaining 1% of your kind will be expelled to serbia. That is what is waiting for you. That will be your future. You will not get anything and we will make sure that it will stay like that
pre 6 godina
we're not giving up Kosovo
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Of course you're not since it's impossible to give up something that you don't have lol
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so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Who is going to get into this war and to defend exactly what in Kosovo?
pre 6 godina
@Guest.
You're full of it and what you're describing here is not exclusive to Serbs or Albanians.
Actually, by painting this untrue and extremely biased picture of both ethnic groups you have just qualified yourself as exactly that what you have tried to describe them to be, only you didn't choose the right word(s); you BIGOT.
pre 6 godina
Albanians are a homogeneous people, who are very racist and elitist. Serbs are a blend of Slavs and native Balkan people’s who too are very racist and elitist a match made in heaven to be honest. In the whole Balkans the two groups that think and act more alike to each other than any other group are Serbs and Albanians, both groups are despised and loved by the wider world at the same time for different reasons. They have historically produced the most elite soldiers, mercenaries and gangsters in the region and have constantly tried to exterminate the each other one way or another. If you put a mirror up to a Serb, on the other side he’ll see an Albanian and vice versa. If both of you were to disappear tomorrow, the Balkans would be a haven of peace and prosperity. You’ve done nothing but bring misery, war and conflict and that’s only in the last century. The Turk should have dealt with you a long time ago and put an end to arguably the most heartless ethnic groups in the white race. why is you two always find a way to destroy something rather than build it?
pre 6 godina
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 September 2017 18:07)
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Who do you think? Albanians will give up control of about 30-35% of Kosovo, those areas where Serbs live, the churches, monasteries and culturally important sites, freedom of movement and the list goes on. Essentially, what's Serbian stays Serbian. A UN seat will cost a lot and my idea is only speculation but it is only Serbia who can give that while EU membership is not the price. We would rather stay out thank you as polls have shown time and time again. No recognition means we're not giving up Kosovo so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
pre 6 godina
Serbia 🇷🇸 will pay 💰 for war reparations
Serbia will pay stolen pensions .
Serbia will pay stolen bank savings .
Serbia will pay for all their crimes.
All indigenous territories must BAN all Serb products.
If you buy Serb.....
You support Slavic Terrorism....
You therefore become an enemy of my people!
Outlaw Serb contamination of our historic homelands.
Support the Liberation of all Occupied people of Serbia...,
pre 6 godina
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
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Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
(Zoran, 27 September 2017 18:28)
So, what you are saying is Serbia will not recognize Kosova but, Kosova will become a UN member and what here will be a high cost to be paid.
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
pre 6 godina
Same article as 17 years ago? LOL
17 years ago Milosevic was still in power and "resolving Kosovo problem one for all" still meant "Albanian-free Kosovo". The only options Slobo offered to K-Albanians were "Die or leave". 17 years ago even K-Albanian politicians never mentioned UN seat. Now even Vucic accepts that`s inevitable.
So much for "the frozen conflict".
pre 6 godina
In Serbia 17 years ago people talking about "more than Autonomy less than Independence" were considered traitors and West`s lapdogs. People even talking about "Albanians rights in Kosovo" were considered heretics who should be burned in stake. Now we`re talking about "the rights of Serbian people in Kosovo".
pre 6 godina
Kosovo recognition by Serbia and problem is solved once and for all. Cheers
pre 6 godina
Kosovo always had a high level of autonomy and this right of self-government should now finally be extended to full independance.
I am not Serb, nor Albanian. I am not pro nor against but I can see clearly that the current status quo is not getting anyone, anything, anywhere soon.
Something has got to give and I have an inkling that Vucic is leaning towards solving an issue that has kept Kosovo and Serbia from moving on for far toooooo long.
pre 6 godina
Yes, of course. But how to do that?
I read this story on this same website 17 years ago.
pre 6 godina
From "more than Autonomy (which means BS) less than Independence (which Kosovo already has)" now it is "UN seat in exchange of North".
I think some people need to be reminded about Brussels Agreement which make North not just "part of Kosovo" but practically and legaly North being subject of Kosovo Government and Kosovo Constitution. Serbia has already agreed on that.
Serbia will will try to profit as much as it can from economic deals but UN seat is a matter of time now.
It`s The Final Countdown!
pre 6 godina
O Aqif
and everyone cheering
when will you all get you are all losers
blaming, hating and nobody giving up anything
that is why you all will never be free
Never
pre 6 godina
Outstanding issues will be permanently resolved between Slavs and Greaks when authentic,Indigenous Original ,Natural, native Shqiptares homelands are unoccupied and liberated.
When war Restitution and compensation is paid.
When there is an official APOLOGY for a Century of Genocide
War Crimes and
Crimes against Humanity
Serbia ,evil Capital of Europe ,need not exist!
pre 6 godina
Kostunica, Tadic, Dacic, and Vucic, chronology of what would need to happen for an agreement. Kostunica and Tadic wanted 20 years to settle the question of Kosovo/a. Dacic went along with the same, and now Vucic has run out of time because the 20 years are almost up. These were all Serb proposals to the world powers on how to resolve the issue of Kosovo/a.
The proposals were referendums, agreements, mutual understandings, etc. at a later date but within the 20 year period so that Serb citizens could be conditioned by the politicians to either except a reality that Serbs in 1999 could not accept.
I've said this repeatedly the Serb politicians should shoot straight with the people and tell them the truth. They've masked this issue for years and have repeatedly said this would never happen but then it did. I think the Serb population is mature enough to handle the truth but politicans only think about keeping their seat of power. Come clean with the people so we can all move forward. If not, do it for the sake of the children.
pre 6 godina
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
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Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
pre 6 godina
"I want to tell Serbs that we have a reality, that we do not live in a mythical past, but that we also have not lost everything. The reality stands far from these two positions," the president stressed.
I was wondering, has any one out there ever seen Vucic in a church ?
Vucic is always bringing up the phrase " Mythical ", is he referring that we the Serbian people have no culture, history or heritage ?
What kind of Serbian is Vucic, like some from the Krajina who are Croatian Orthodox ? Vucic educated by Tito, Srbija will not exist by 2050 !!!
pre 6 godina
I appreciate Vucic's talk of finding a lasting solution in Serb-Albanian relations, but you can't ask for a deal until you present your position: What does Vucic/Serbia want? It's always the same vague, generic words, that don't actually mean anything. And no actual, concrete proposal put forward. It's been the same for what, 18 years, now?
Vucic, Dacic, Tadic, Kostunica, they all said the same vague meaningless things, but no actual proposals: "One side gets all, the other side doesn't get anything", whatever. And no, Albanians didn't get all we wanted, we had to make painful sacrifices in each negotiation round: No reunification with Albania, disproportionate and guaranteed seats for Serbs in Parliament and Govt (which is actually undemocratic), creation of multiple new communes for Serbs (which usually have about 200 times less people than the avg comune in Kosova). Etc, etc, etc.
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
pre 6 godina
Dragoljub Djurkovic, 27 September 2017 14:10)
Why are you so paranoid ?
Because you ask for it ?
Or because you deserve it ?
pre 6 godina
Aluja Phase Two !!!
All remaining Serbian people to be ethnically cleansed from the new Greater Albania !!!
For now that will be OK but remember Srbija Albania and Croatia will not stop and neither will Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria when they see it's a free for all, any body who want's a part of Srbija just grab it and the USA will support with U-235's !!!
pre 6 godina
The guy is speaking clearly. Serbia formally not recognising Kosovo but will sign a couple of economic and administrative agreements which "no one wins them all" and Kosovo in a couple of years will gain UN full membership and Serbia will close the most difficult chapters of EU membership negotiations.
And let`s hope that 50 years from now this warmonger mentality will be forgotten.
pre 6 godina
More evidence of Vucic and Serbia moving slowly towards recognition of an independent Kosovo.
He knows what is expected of him by the EU and is changing direction from extreme natioalist to European diplomat. He will say one thing to the Serbian people but watch what he does, that will be the real indicator.
Kosovo will be recognized a few days before Serbia is accepted into the EU, just wait and see.
pre 6 godina
I Quote -
"He added that he was "sure that not everyone can be satisfied, but Serbia insists that the agreement cannot be such where one side is satisfied, and the other not."
End of Quote.
An Agreement is now to late,
it should have been made Before.
Now only one side will be satisfied by War Action.
Arn.Sweden.
pre 6 godina
Aqif
Please dont tell your theories to your children. Let them die with you. Otherwise the nightmare on balkans will never end. Many shqiptarrs here are much smarter.
pre 6 godina
Will never happen. You are the enemy of Albanians worldwide and will always be treated as such. That will never change. We dont like you or want anything to do with you and all your babbling is beyond pathetic. Republic of Kosovo is a sovereign state and we will continue to fight for it, even if it takes a 1000 years. You lost the war and you lost Kosovo. No one feels sorry for you or cares about your pathetic existence. Getting rid of all the serbs in the balkans would be a great start to begin with in solving the serbian problem. There is no other way. We will make sure not only that you will never get Kosovo back, but also that you will never join EU either. Gypsies never learn i am afraid. Bye bye
pre 6 godina
Yes this relations will be settled only when you go back to Sanjak of Smederevo and freed the Albanian-Kosovo lands that you have occupied illegally since 1878 and Apologise for all Crimes you have done, Find all 5 thousands of Missing Albanian people. pay for all Damages you caused during the war hundreds of thousands of burning Albanians homes then we can talk for settings thinks for good.
But again just thinking for ones We got lands taken of us we got thousands of people killed by serbia we got millions of people inside Serbia still today are scared and get prosecuted just because they are Albanians and they president thinks That for all this what Albanians have been through it is ok as they will forgive us I hope to god and hope people will pry to the Churches and mosks that if Albania-Kosovo forgives serbia hope God will never Forgive serbia and if Serbs don’t get punished for all this crimes in this world hope the get punished in the another world.
✌🏼
pre 6 godina
Yes this relations will be settled only when you go back to Sanjak of Smederevo and freed the Albanian-Kosovo lands that you have occupied illegally since 1878 and Apologise for all Crimes you have done, Find all 5 thousands of Missing Albanian people. pay for all Damages you caused during the war hundreds of thousands of burning Albanians homes then we can talk for settings thinks for good.
But again just thinking for ones We got lands taken of us we got thousands of people killed by serbia we got millions of people inside Serbia still today are scared and get prosecuted just because they are Albanians and they president thinks That for all this what Albanians have been through it is ok as they will forgive us I hope to god and hope people will pry to the Churches and mosks that if Albania-Kosovo forgives serbia hope God will never Forgive serbia and if Serbs don’t get punished for all this crimes in this world hope the get punished in the another world.
✌🏼
pre 6 godina
Will never happen. You are the enemy of Albanians worldwide and will always be treated as such. That will never change. We dont like you or want anything to do with you and all your babbling is beyond pathetic. Republic of Kosovo is a sovereign state and we will continue to fight for it, even if it takes a 1000 years. You lost the war and you lost Kosovo. No one feels sorry for you or cares about your pathetic existence. Getting rid of all the serbs in the balkans would be a great start to begin with in solving the serbian problem. There is no other way. We will make sure not only that you will never get Kosovo back, but also that you will never join EU either. Gypsies never learn i am afraid. Bye bye
pre 6 godina
I appreciate Vucic's talk of finding a lasting solution in Serb-Albanian relations, but you can't ask for a deal until you present your position: What does Vucic/Serbia want? It's always the same vague, generic words, that don't actually mean anything. And no actual, concrete proposal put forward. It's been the same for what, 18 years, now?
Vucic, Dacic, Tadic, Kostunica, they all said the same vague meaningless things, but no actual proposals: "One side gets all, the other side doesn't get anything", whatever. And no, Albanians didn't get all we wanted, we had to make painful sacrifices in each negotiation round: No reunification with Albania, disproportionate and guaranteed seats for Serbs in Parliament and Govt (which is actually undemocratic), creation of multiple new communes for Serbs (which usually have about 200 times less people than the avg comune in Kosova). Etc, etc, etc.
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
pre 6 godina
Same article as 17 years ago? LOL
17 years ago Milosevic was still in power and "resolving Kosovo problem one for all" still meant "Albanian-free Kosovo". The only options Slobo offered to K-Albanians were "Die or leave". 17 years ago even K-Albanian politicians never mentioned UN seat. Now even Vucic accepts that`s inevitable.
So much for "the frozen conflict".
pre 6 godina
Dragoljub Djurkovic, 27 September 2017 14:10)
Why are you so paranoid ?
Because you ask for it ?
Or because you deserve it ?
pre 6 godina
More evidence of Vucic and Serbia moving slowly towards recognition of an independent Kosovo.
He knows what is expected of him by the EU and is changing direction from extreme natioalist to European diplomat. He will say one thing to the Serbian people but watch what he does, that will be the real indicator.
Kosovo will be recognized a few days before Serbia is accepted into the EU, just wait and see.
pre 6 godina
Kosovo recognition by Serbia and problem is solved once and for all. Cheers
pre 6 godina
Outstanding issues will be permanently resolved between Slavs and Greaks when authentic,Indigenous Original ,Natural, native Shqiptares homelands are unoccupied and liberated.
When war Restitution and compensation is paid.
When there is an official APOLOGY for a Century of Genocide
War Crimes and
Crimes against Humanity
Serbia ,evil Capital of Europe ,need not exist!
pre 6 godina
From "more than Autonomy (which means BS) less than Independence (which Kosovo already has)" now it is "UN seat in exchange of North".
I think some people need to be reminded about Brussels Agreement which make North not just "part of Kosovo" but practically and legaly North being subject of Kosovo Government and Kosovo Constitution. Serbia has already agreed on that.
Serbia will will try to profit as much as it can from economic deals but UN seat is a matter of time now.
It`s The Final Countdown!
pre 6 godina
The guy is speaking clearly. Serbia formally not recognising Kosovo but will sign a couple of economic and administrative agreements which "no one wins them all" and Kosovo in a couple of years will gain UN full membership and Serbia will close the most difficult chapters of EU membership negotiations.
And let`s hope that 50 years from now this warmonger mentality will be forgotten.
pre 6 godina
In Serbia 17 years ago people talking about "more than Autonomy less than Independence" were considered traitors and West`s lapdogs. People even talking about "Albanians rights in Kosovo" were considered heretics who should be burned in stake. Now we`re talking about "the rights of Serbian people in Kosovo".
pre 6 godina
Kosovo always had a high level of autonomy and this right of self-government should now finally be extended to full independance.
I am not Serb, nor Albanian. I am not pro nor against but I can see clearly that the current status quo is not getting anyone, anything, anywhere soon.
Something has got to give and I have an inkling that Vucic is leaning towards solving an issue that has kept Kosovo and Serbia from moving on for far toooooo long.
pre 6 godina
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
--
Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
(Zoran, 27 September 2017 18:28)
So, what you are saying is Serbia will not recognize Kosova but, Kosova will become a UN member and what here will be a high cost to be paid.
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
pre 6 godina
Serbia 🇷🇸 will pay 💰 for war reparations
Serbia will pay stolen pensions .
Serbia will pay stolen bank savings .
Serbia will pay for all their crimes.
All indigenous territories must BAN all Serb products.
If you buy Serb.....
You support Slavic Terrorism....
You therefore become an enemy of my people!
Outlaw Serb contamination of our historic homelands.
Support the Liberation of all Occupied people of Serbia...,
pre 6 godina
we're not giving up Kosovo
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Of course you're not since it's impossible to give up something that you don't have lol
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so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Who is going to get into this war and to defend exactly what in Kosovo?
pre 6 godina
Aqif
Please dont tell your theories to your children. Let them die with you. Otherwise the nightmare on balkans will never end. Many shqiptarrs here are much smarter.
pre 6 godina
Yes, of course. But how to do that?
I read this story on this same website 17 years ago.
pre 6 godina
Zoran
"Another war" and the western powers will wipe your pathetic existence away. We will not give you gypsies a inch of land. We will erase everything serbian in the region and the last remaining 1% of your kind will be expelled to serbia. That is what is waiting for you. That will be your future. You will not get anything and we will make sure that it will stay like that
pre 6 godina
Aluja Phase Two !!!
All remaining Serbian people to be ethnically cleansed from the new Greater Albania !!!
For now that will be OK but remember Srbija Albania and Croatia will not stop and neither will Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria when they see it's a free for all, any body who want's a part of Srbija just grab it and the USA will support with U-235's !!!
pre 6 godina
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
--
Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
pre 6 godina
Kostunica, Tadic, Dacic, and Vucic, chronology of what would need to happen for an agreement. Kostunica and Tadic wanted 20 years to settle the question of Kosovo/a. Dacic went along with the same, and now Vucic has run out of time because the 20 years are almost up. These were all Serb proposals to the world powers on how to resolve the issue of Kosovo/a.
The proposals were referendums, agreements, mutual understandings, etc. at a later date but within the 20 year period so that Serb citizens could be conditioned by the politicians to either except a reality that Serbs in 1999 could not accept.
I've said this repeatedly the Serb politicians should shoot straight with the people and tell them the truth. They've masked this issue for years and have repeatedly said this would never happen but then it did. I think the Serb population is mature enough to handle the truth but politicans only think about keeping their seat of power. Come clean with the people so we can all move forward. If not, do it for the sake of the children.
pre 6 godina
@Guest.
You're full of it and what you're describing here is not exclusive to Serbs or Albanians.
Actually, by painting this untrue and extremely biased picture of both ethnic groups you have just qualified yourself as exactly that what you have tried to describe them to be, only you didn't choose the right word(s); you BIGOT.
pre 6 godina
I Quote -
"He added that he was "sure that not everyone can be satisfied, but Serbia insists that the agreement cannot be such where one side is satisfied, and the other not."
End of Quote.
An Agreement is now to late,
it should have been made Before.
Now only one side will be satisfied by War Action.
Arn.Sweden.
pre 6 godina
Albanians are a homogeneous people, who are very racist and elitist. Serbs are a blend of Slavs and native Balkan people’s who too are very racist and elitist a match made in heaven to be honest. In the whole Balkans the two groups that think and act more alike to each other than any other group are Serbs and Albanians, both groups are despised and loved by the wider world at the same time for different reasons. They have historically produced the most elite soldiers, mercenaries and gangsters in the region and have constantly tried to exterminate the each other one way or another. If you put a mirror up to a Serb, on the other side he’ll see an Albanian and vice versa. If both of you were to disappear tomorrow, the Balkans would be a haven of peace and prosperity. You’ve done nothing but bring misery, war and conflict and that’s only in the last century. The Turk should have dealt with you a long time ago and put an end to arguably the most heartless ethnic groups in the white race. why is you two always find a way to destroy something rather than build it?
pre 6 godina
"I want to tell Serbs that we have a reality, that we do not live in a mythical past, but that we also have not lost everything. The reality stands far from these two positions," the president stressed.
I was wondering, has any one out there ever seen Vucic in a church ?
Vucic is always bringing up the phrase " Mythical ", is he referring that we the Serbian people have no culture, history or heritage ?
What kind of Serbian is Vucic, like some from the Krajina who are Croatian Orthodox ? Vucic educated by Tito, Srbija will not exist by 2050 !!!
pre 6 godina
O Aqif
and everyone cheering
when will you all get you are all losers
blaming, hating and nobody giving up anything
that is why you all will never be free
Never
pre 6 godina
Vucic has recognized Kosovo. He met with thaci and shook his hand. The question is why doesn't he say that? Because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia's constitution. It's not enough for Europe. Europe doesn't want recognition of Kosovo just as government policy but state policy. What would happen if Serbs turned against Kosovo independence? 63% of Serbs have said Kosovo is independent nation so Vucic can have his pro independence policy and have no consequence for violating constitution. But what if Serbs stopped being pro Kosovo independence?
pre 6 godina
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 September 2017 18:07)
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Who do you think? Albanians will give up control of about 30-35% of Kosovo, those areas where Serbs live, the churches, monasteries and culturally important sites, freedom of movement and the list goes on. Essentially, what's Serbian stays Serbian. A UN seat will cost a lot and my idea is only speculation but it is only Serbia who can give that while EU membership is not the price. We would rather stay out thank you as polls have shown time and time again. No recognition means we're not giving up Kosovo so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
pre 6 godina
To the dude who listed a fairly un-impressive list of advancements i say this:
There is no momentum toward what you desire.
pre 6 godina
Will never happen. You are the enemy of Albanians worldwide and will always be treated as such. That will never change. We dont like you or want anything to do with you and all your babbling is beyond pathetic. Republic of Kosovo is a sovereign state and we will continue to fight for it, even if it takes a 1000 years. You lost the war and you lost Kosovo. No one feels sorry for you or cares about your pathetic existence. Getting rid of all the serbs in the balkans would be a great start to begin with in solving the serbian problem. There is no other way. We will make sure not only that you will never get Kosovo back, but also that you will never join EU either. Gypsies never learn i am afraid. Bye bye
pre 6 godina
Yes this relations will be settled only when you go back to Sanjak of Smederevo and freed the Albanian-Kosovo lands that you have occupied illegally since 1878 and Apologise for all Crimes you have done, Find all 5 thousands of Missing Albanian people. pay for all Damages you caused during the war hundreds of thousands of burning Albanians homes then we can talk for settings thinks for good.
But again just thinking for ones We got lands taken of us we got thousands of people killed by serbia we got millions of people inside Serbia still today are scared and get prosecuted just because they are Albanians and they president thinks That for all this what Albanians have been through it is ok as they will forgive us I hope to god and hope people will pry to the Churches and mosks that if Albania-Kosovo forgives serbia hope God will never Forgive serbia and if Serbs don’t get punished for all this crimes in this world hope the get punished in the another world.
✌🏼
pre 6 godina
Aqif
Please dont tell your theories to your children. Let them die with you. Otherwise the nightmare on balkans will never end. Many shqiptarrs here are much smarter.
pre 6 godina
The guy is speaking clearly. Serbia formally not recognising Kosovo but will sign a couple of economic and administrative agreements which "no one wins them all" and Kosovo in a couple of years will gain UN full membership and Serbia will close the most difficult chapters of EU membership negotiations.
And let`s hope that 50 years from now this warmonger mentality will be forgotten.
pre 6 godina
Aluja Phase Two !!!
All remaining Serbian people to be ethnically cleansed from the new Greater Albania !!!
For now that will be OK but remember Srbija Albania and Croatia will not stop and neither will Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria when they see it's a free for all, any body who want's a part of Srbija just grab it and the USA will support with U-235's !!!
pre 6 godina
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
--
Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
pre 6 godina
Outstanding issues will be permanently resolved between Slavs and Greaks when authentic,Indigenous Original ,Natural, native Shqiptares homelands are unoccupied and liberated.
When war Restitution and compensation is paid.
When there is an official APOLOGY for a Century of Genocide
War Crimes and
Crimes against Humanity
Serbia ,evil Capital of Europe ,need not exist!
pre 6 godina
More evidence of Vucic and Serbia moving slowly towards recognition of an independent Kosovo.
He knows what is expected of him by the EU and is changing direction from extreme natioalist to European diplomat. He will say one thing to the Serbian people but watch what he does, that will be the real indicator.
Kosovo will be recognized a few days before Serbia is accepted into the EU, just wait and see.
pre 6 godina
I Quote -
"He added that he was "sure that not everyone can be satisfied, but Serbia insists that the agreement cannot be such where one side is satisfied, and the other not."
End of Quote.
An Agreement is now to late,
it should have been made Before.
Now only one side will be satisfied by War Action.
Arn.Sweden.
pre 6 godina
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 September 2017 18:07)
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Who do you think? Albanians will give up control of about 30-35% of Kosovo, those areas where Serbs live, the churches, monasteries and culturally important sites, freedom of movement and the list goes on. Essentially, what's Serbian stays Serbian. A UN seat will cost a lot and my idea is only speculation but it is only Serbia who can give that while EU membership is not the price. We would rather stay out thank you as polls have shown time and time again. No recognition means we're not giving up Kosovo so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
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I appreciate Vucic's talk of finding a lasting solution in Serb-Albanian relations, but you can't ask for a deal until you present your position: What does Vucic/Serbia want? It's always the same vague, generic words, that don't actually mean anything. And no actual, concrete proposal put forward. It's been the same for what, 18 years, now?
Vucic, Dacic, Tadic, Kostunica, they all said the same vague meaningless things, but no actual proposals: "One side gets all, the other side doesn't get anything", whatever. And no, Albanians didn't get all we wanted, we had to make painful sacrifices in each negotiation round: No reunification with Albania, disproportionate and guaranteed seats for Serbs in Parliament and Govt (which is actually undemocratic), creation of multiple new communes for Serbs (which usually have about 200 times less people than the avg comune in Kosova). Etc, etc, etc.
And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
pre 6 godina
"I want to tell Serbs that we have a reality, that we do not live in a mythical past, but that we also have not lost everything. The reality stands far from these two positions," the president stressed.
I was wondering, has any one out there ever seen Vucic in a church ?
Vucic is always bringing up the phrase " Mythical ", is he referring that we the Serbian people have no culture, history or heritage ?
What kind of Serbian is Vucic, like some from the Krajina who are Croatian Orthodox ? Vucic educated by Tito, Srbija will not exist by 2050 !!!
pre 6 godina
Dragoljub Djurkovic, 27 September 2017 14:10)
Why are you so paranoid ?
Because you ask for it ?
Or because you deserve it ?
pre 6 godina
O Aqif
and everyone cheering
when will you all get you are all losers
blaming, hating and nobody giving up anything
that is why you all will never be free
Never
pre 6 godina
Albanians are a homogeneous people, who are very racist and elitist. Serbs are a blend of Slavs and native Balkan people’s who too are very racist and elitist a match made in heaven to be honest. In the whole Balkans the two groups that think and act more alike to each other than any other group are Serbs and Albanians, both groups are despised and loved by the wider world at the same time for different reasons. They have historically produced the most elite soldiers, mercenaries and gangsters in the region and have constantly tried to exterminate the each other one way or another. If you put a mirror up to a Serb, on the other side he’ll see an Albanian and vice versa. If both of you were to disappear tomorrow, the Balkans would be a haven of peace and prosperity. You’ve done nothing but bring misery, war and conflict and that’s only in the last century. The Turk should have dealt with you a long time ago and put an end to arguably the most heartless ethnic groups in the white race. why is you two always find a way to destroy something rather than build it?
pre 6 godina
Kostunica, Tadic, Dacic, and Vucic, chronology of what would need to happen for an agreement. Kostunica and Tadic wanted 20 years to settle the question of Kosovo/a. Dacic went along with the same, and now Vucic has run out of time because the 20 years are almost up. These were all Serb proposals to the world powers on how to resolve the issue of Kosovo/a.
The proposals were referendums, agreements, mutual understandings, etc. at a later date but within the 20 year period so that Serb citizens could be conditioned by the politicians to either except a reality that Serbs in 1999 could not accept.
I've said this repeatedly the Serb politicians should shoot straight with the people and tell them the truth. They've masked this issue for years and have repeatedly said this would never happen but then it did. I think the Serb population is mature enough to handle the truth but politicans only think about keeping their seat of power. Come clean with the people so we can all move forward. If not, do it for the sake of the children.
pre 6 godina
Kosovo always had a high level of autonomy and this right of self-government should now finally be extended to full independance.
I am not Serb, nor Albanian. I am not pro nor against but I can see clearly that the current status quo is not getting anyone, anything, anywhere soon.
Something has got to give and I have an inkling that Vucic is leaning towards solving an issue that has kept Kosovo and Serbia from moving on for far toooooo long.
pre 6 godina
Kosovo recognition by Serbia and problem is solved once and for all. Cheers
pre 6 godina
Yes, of course. But how to do that?
I read this story on this same website 17 years ago.
pre 6 godina
In Serbia 17 years ago people talking about "more than Autonomy less than Independence" were considered traitors and West`s lapdogs. People even talking about "Albanians rights in Kosovo" were considered heretics who should be burned in stake. Now we`re talking about "the rights of Serbian people in Kosovo".
pre 6 godina
Serbia 🇷🇸 will pay 💰 for war reparations
Serbia will pay stolen pensions .
Serbia will pay stolen bank savings .
Serbia will pay for all their crimes.
All indigenous territories must BAN all Serb products.
If you buy Serb.....
You support Slavic Terrorism....
You therefore become an enemy of my people!
Outlaw Serb contamination of our historic homelands.
Support the Liberation of all Occupied people of Serbia...,
pre 6 godina
To the dude who listed a fairly un-impressive list of advancements i say this:
There is no momentum toward what you desire.
pre 6 godina
Same article as 17 years ago? LOL
17 years ago Milosevic was still in power and "resolving Kosovo problem one for all" still meant "Albanian-free Kosovo". The only options Slobo offered to K-Albanians were "Die or leave". 17 years ago even K-Albanian politicians never mentioned UN seat. Now even Vucic accepts that`s inevitable.
So much for "the frozen conflict".
pre 6 godina
@Guest.
You're full of it and what you're describing here is not exclusive to Serbs or Albanians.
Actually, by painting this untrue and extremely biased picture of both ethnic groups you have just qualified yourself as exactly that what you have tried to describe them to be, only you didn't choose the right word(s); you BIGOT.
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Zoran
"Another war" and the western powers will wipe your pathetic existence away. We will not give you gypsies a inch of land. We will erase everything serbian in the region and the last remaining 1% of your kind will be expelled to serbia. That is what is waiting for you. That will be your future. You will not get anything and we will make sure that it will stay like that
pre 6 godina
From "more than Autonomy (which means BS) less than Independence (which Kosovo already has)" now it is "UN seat in exchange of North".
I think some people need to be reminded about Brussels Agreement which make North not just "part of Kosovo" but practically and legaly North being subject of Kosovo Government and Kosovo Constitution. Serbia has already agreed on that.
Serbia will will try to profit as much as it can from economic deals but UN seat is a matter of time now.
It`s The Final Countdown!
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And there's no point of negotiating unless Serbia is willing to recognize at the end. What lasting solution can there possibly be, if there's continued ambiguity and two-facedness?
(Therret Prizreni, 27 September 2017 17:43)
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Let's get this straight. Serbia is not going to recognise, we are talking about the possibility of a UN seat, which is going to cost a lot. Probably the North remains integrated into Serbia and highly autonomous cantons in the South, where Serbs live.
(Zoran, 27 September 2017 18:28)
So, what you are saying is Serbia will not recognize Kosova but, Kosova will become a UN member and what here will be a high cost to be paid.
Question: Who will pay this high cost and who will determine this cost.
pre 6 godina
we're not giving up Kosovo
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Of course you're not since it's impossible to give up something that you don't have lol
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so if we ever get into another war situation, we can legitimately defend Kosovo.
(Zoran, 29 September 2017 01:01)
Who is going to get into this war and to defend exactly what in Kosovo?
pre 6 godina
Vucic has recognized Kosovo. He met with thaci and shook his hand. The question is why doesn't he say that? Because Kosovo is still a part of Serbia's constitution. It's not enough for Europe. Europe doesn't want recognition of Kosovo just as government policy but state policy. What would happen if Serbs turned against Kosovo independence? 63% of Serbs have said Kosovo is independent nation so Vucic can have his pro independence policy and have no consequence for violating constitution. But what if Serbs stopped being pro Kosovo independence?
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