Macedonia ready for name compromise in order to join NATO

This move would definitely benefit Macedonia. Greeks are willing to talk about it, that is milestone achievement for both sides.

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha

F%CK you Zaev!!!!!

Nobody living or dead can change their nationality and who they were and are. I am a Macedonian but I am not so sure who the F&ck you are.

More bad news for Serbs.

Georgi Sugarev, 8 June 2017 20:09

The reason you have problems with your name is , you have no name . How about "Vardaria" sound?😁

Zaev is not wasting time to please certain players. Perhaps that it is why it is rumoured that the Trump administration wants to send Priebus as US ambassador to Greece? In order to massage the Greek over in the name dispute? Plus for the hydrocarbon extraction in Greek seas.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.

Zaev is like a breath of fresh air for Macedonia. The Albanians should be thanked for helping elect Zaev. NATO membership is just one of many benefits Macedonia will receive for having dumped Gruevski and his gang of thugs. Joining NATO will open the door for EU membership. Will Serbia read the writing on the wall: Recognize the Republic of Kosova and join NATO, then perhaps, Serbia will be allowed to join the EU.

It has started. Zaev has sold Macedonia to Albanins. First, name change, then two oficial languages (Macedonian and Albanian) and two oficial religions (Christian and muslim)and then two official states, Macedonia divided betwin Macedonian side and Albanian side and then America and NATO will simply give the Albanian side to the Albania creating a greater Albania. That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.
(Racko, 9 June 2017 13:05)

If Serbia did this in 1990 you would still have Kosovo but you did not so you lost it.

Why not have two official languages, why should people who make 30% of population not have this right, if we were civilized like west we would be better.

Belgium, Swiss etc have multi languages.

Why they must bend to one or the other coexist man, just like Serbs in Kosovo they speak Serbian no big deal - people want jobs enough nationalisam.

That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.
(Racko, 9 June 2017 13:05)

Sound familiar Racko? Tito created a "Muslim" nationality in Bosnia-Herzegovina, "Macedonian" republic and language. Not only Tito, but Djilas and the rest of the Partisans who seized power in Yugoslavia after WW-II. Pretty soon you will have a an Albanian republic called Tetovo. Thank your near sighted leader Gligorov.

Macedonia and Montenegro sell your soul to the devil and you will be cleaning his toilet forever.

UN General Assembly, when Republic of Macedonia was admitted as 181st full-fledged member in the world organisation under the provisional reference Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.[1]

So why not join NATO and EU like this who F cares about the name, really you can change it once you get in and thats all. This will end any fear of federalization leading to break up so then Albanians can have the rights they seek.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)

It bombed Serbia when we needed them to. That's a pretty big thing they did; and we weren't even a NATO member. Pretty good if you're Albanian. Russia watched as NATO bombed you. That was not so mighty of them.

It has started. Zaev has sold Macedonia to Albanins. First, name change, then two oficial languages (Macedonian and Albanian) and two oficial religions (Christian and muslim)and then two official states, Macedonia divided betwin Macedonian side and Albanian side and then America and NATO will simply give the Albanian side to the Albania creating a greater Albania. That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.

WE ARE MACEDONIA No other name.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)

That's not what the countries which are NATO members think. And that's what matters, not what a certain "vratnica" thinks! :)

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha
(Azir, 8 June 2017 20:47)

Are you hallucinating? Macedonia and Bosnia and Herzegovina are not NOW members of NATO.

Serbia has no real Anti NATO feelings! If Serbia didn't like NATO why does it have an ipap? Why did Serbia vote for NATO to have total immunity from all Serbia laws! Ipap means Serbia will be in NATO!! Serbia has no problems with NATO because if it did radicals would be governing the country.

Tito created a "Muslim" nationality in Bosnia-Herzegovina, "Macedonian" republic and language.
(Jugoslavija, 9 June 2017 17:11)

Tito created a language?! lol

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.
(Contractor, 8 June 2017 16:47)

It depends on what they have in their minds and on the developments in the fast changing world. Will Trump stand against the witch hunting and will EU be united as it used to be ect ect

Let's see ...

The fun will soon begin - place your bets... NATO soldiers from FYROM/Montenegro/Albania vs. ISIS terrorists from "Kosova"/BiH... venue: Afghanistan

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha
(Azir, 8 June 2017 20:47)
===================
So?
None of you pissy little pawns have any power and can order an attack.
Serbia has no intention of attacking Montenegro or FYRM. Albania too hasn't been on our radar so what is your happiness all about?
Bosnia doesn't have a chance of joining NATO and is kept in place by RS.

Perfect for Serbia.

Now there is REALLY no compelling reason to join NATO.

Of course, the feeble minds below can't understand that. Such is the case with feeble minds.

Serbia has been encircled her entire existence. There is nothing new in that statement.

What is new, is that Serbia now has no compelling reason to join.

It reaps the benefits of security without devoting any notable part of its GDP to security. It need not send it's sons off to fight foreign wars. all it needs to do is excel at anti-terrorism activities.

Greece should keep up the pressure until they give up on the "Macedonian" fabrication.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)
---------------------------
Instead of mending bridges with their Orthodox brothers they burn them instead.
Do these fools really think that west is their friend? Who do they expect help from in case of attack? Yes, they think that because they are in NATO they are safe and NATO will protect them.
Albania is in NATO as well so who is going to stop rabid Albanians from taking over?
The only people the could have counted on are their Orthodox brothers. Very, very short sighted of them.
Oh, yes, they have Montenegro to call on for help which is also going to be under attack.

(Zoran, 9 June 2017 12:29)

You got it wrong, it will be NATO soldiers from Macedonia/Montenegro/Albania vs. Serbs, supported by their Russian masters. It will be quite a sight when NATO soldiers from our ancient Doclea enter Serbia.

make i easy for everybody just call Macedonia by the new name of Serbia.

NATO are willing to fast track any nation in order to have more influence in Europe.
Macedonia is an embarrassment to Slavs.

NATO are willing to fast track any nation in order to have more influence in Europe.
Macedonia is an embarrassment to Slavs.
(Smart Serb, 11 June 2017 15:55)

Russia is willing to dismember any country (including a Slavic brother country) in order to have more influence.
Russia is an embarrassment to Slavs.

Macedonia means almost same as Albabia, Alpes, Albion, Laba, Elba, Bela Dona, Aksu ect. = WHITE RIVER. So they have a big choice to chose another Slavic name. If I were them I would chose Republika of the Bali Kani or Balkan Republic.

Because the Macedonians definitely belonged to the White Khans long before Greek Pariarch Bessarion II wrote his fairy tales about Mehmet II Fatih aka Alexander the Great ... in 16 century. Read "Orationes et epistolae ad Christianos princes contra Turcos" by Bessarion - the mortal enemy of the Macedonians.

If I were them I would open a wide discussion who Alexander was indeed and if he were Greek then why has he granted all the lands in the White World to the Slavs declaring the rest as slave to the Slavs ?

http://chronologia.org/cgi-bin/ks/ksearch.cgi?terms=Alexander+of+Macedon
http://chronologia.org/en/seven5/empire20_05.html

If we stop to be zombies and return to the question who was Alexander and why his famous GRAMOTA TO THE SLAVS published in 9 European countries in the Middle Ages WAS WRITTEN IN SLOVENSKI (= Church Serbian) ONLY ???? Here's it oryginal text :

https://via-midgard.com/news/in_russia/gramota-afmakedonskogo-o-vladeniyax-slavyan.htm

Automatically many other questions will arise. Did word Greek have ethnical or religional context ? How come that Athens dissapeared for centuries when the Greeks stopped to make coins and even to die in 3-10 centuries ect.

The pressure is all on Athens actually since the Macedonians dont care about the acronyms FYROM as much as some like using it as an insult it will win them a ticket into NATO

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.

How so Macedonia has contributed far more
Professional Army of 7,000
5 highly trained Special Forces Units
Lots of experience domestic and Foreign Mission
Best Helicopter Flight training and Pilots in the Region
there outdated Soviet Heavy arms really dont matter
because they focus on being highly trained and the US and NATO actually in private acknowledge that

vratnica you are right
but it is all about club and Interests
Russia hasn't done anything, nutter, zip for the Balkans
so you pick your sides do as told and win favors it takes a hit on your ego that is what the Serbs dont do well and forever remain alone

The Count of Kosova

Zaev wasnt elected there isnt anything democratic about the Majority not supporting him
it was a coupes and colored revolutions but that is quickly forgotten
were as VMRO-DPMNE and DUI just had to go they were useful to the West once a model and loved
see the pattern
same pattern in Albania
what the Maks are doing is picking the best path they have now

If Zaev wanted to mend relations with Greece he would have announced the demolition of the grotesque Italian made Hellenic reproduction statues that litter the FYROM landscape, the renaming of the airport in Skopje, the renaming of the highway, the renaming of the football stadium, the removal of the repulsive Baroque Hellenic style facades, the correcting of school carriculum, the removal of the Hellenic symbol on the national flag, the removal of all greater Macedonia maps from government institutions and a heartfelt apolgy to the nation of Greece for his nation being vile for the last two and a half decades. Cultural theft cannot be forgiven easily. Actions speak louder than words. Greeks do not want to hear politicians trying new age diplomacy that they learnt in their political science classes. Dimitrov, Šekerinska, Zaevand all the Slavic Fyromians currently running FYROM are just as dogmatic about an exclusivity of the name as the Gruevski ultra nationalists. There is no scope for negotiation with these antiques. Greece is the victim here. Our history has been hijacked by Fyromian Slavs. If FYROM wants exclusivity to the name Macedonia they will have to change their official language to Greek for this corresponds with the Ancient Macedonian language. We Greeks embrace everyone as a Hellene as long as they speak Greek. These Slavs are like a dog with a bone but in their case the bone is plastic and has zero marrow.

F%CK you Zaev!!!!!

Nobody living or dead can change their nationality and who they were and are. I am a Macedonian but I am not so sure who the F&ck you are.

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.

More bad news for Serbs.

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.

Georgi Sugarev, 8 June 2017 20:09

The reason you have problems with your name is , you have no name . How about "Vardaria" sound?😁

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.
(Contractor, 8 June 2017 16:47)

It depends on what they have in their minds and on the developments in the fast changing world. Will Trump stand against the witch hunting and will EU be united as it used to be ect ect

Let's see ...

WE ARE MACEDONIA No other name.

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha
(Azir, 8 June 2017 20:47)
===================
So?
None of you pissy little pawns have any power and can order an attack.
Serbia has no intention of attacking Montenegro or FYRM. Albania too hasn't been on our radar so what is your happiness all about?
Bosnia doesn't have a chance of joining NATO and is kept in place by RS.

This move would definitely benefit Macedonia. Greeks are willing to talk about it, that is milestone achievement for both sides.

The fun will soon begin - place your bets... NATO soldiers from FYROM/Montenegro/Albania vs. ISIS terrorists from "Kosova"/BiH... venue: Afghanistan

It has started. Zaev has sold Macedonia to Albanins. First, name change, then two oficial languages (Macedonian and Albanian) and two oficial religions (Christian and muslim)and then two official states, Macedonia divided betwin Macedonian side and Albanian side and then America and NATO will simply give the Albanian side to the Albania creating a greater Albania. That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.

Zaev is like a breath of fresh air for Macedonia. The Albanians should be thanked for helping elect Zaev. NATO membership is just one of many benefits Macedonia will receive for having dumped Gruevski and his gang of thugs. Joining NATO will open the door for EU membership. Will Serbia read the writing on the wall: Recognize the Republic of Kosova and join NATO, then perhaps, Serbia will be allowed to join the EU.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)
---------------------------
Instead of mending bridges with their Orthodox brothers they burn them instead.
Do these fools really think that west is their friend? Who do they expect help from in case of attack? Yes, they think that because they are in NATO they are safe and NATO will protect them.
Albania is in NATO as well so who is going to stop rabid Albanians from taking over?
The only people the could have counted on are their Orthodox brothers. Very, very short sighted of them.
Oh, yes, they have Montenegro to call on for help which is also going to be under attack.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)

It bombed Serbia when we needed them to. That's a pretty big thing they did; and we weren't even a NATO member. Pretty good if you're Albanian. Russia watched as NATO bombed you. That was not so mighty of them.

That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.
(Racko, 9 June 2017 13:05)

Sound familiar Racko? Tito created a "Muslim" nationality in Bosnia-Herzegovina, "Macedonian" republic and language. Not only Tito, but Djilas and the rest of the Partisans who seized power in Yugoslavia after WW-II. Pretty soon you will have a an Albanian republic called Tetovo. Thank your near sighted leader Gligorov.

Zaev is not wasting time to please certain players. Perhaps that it is why it is rumoured that the Trump administration wants to send Priebus as US ambassador to Greece? In order to massage the Greek over in the name dispute? Plus for the hydrocarbon extraction in Greek seas.

Serbia is now surrounded by NATO.

Ha ha
(Azir, 8 June 2017 20:47)

Are you hallucinating? Macedonia and Bosnia and Herzegovina are not NOW members of NATO.

Perfect for Serbia.

Now there is REALLY no compelling reason to join NATO.

Of course, the feeble minds below can't understand that. Such is the case with feeble minds.

Serbia has been encircled her entire existence. There is nothing new in that statement.

What is new, is that Serbia now has no compelling reason to join.

It reaps the benefits of security without devoting any notable part of its GDP to security. It need not send it's sons off to fight foreign wars. all it needs to do is excel at anti-terrorism activities.

make i easy for everybody just call Macedonia by the new name of Serbia.

Macedonia and Montenegro sell your soul to the devil and you will be cleaning his toilet forever.

Join NATO become a USA puppet, get used and abused what has NATO done for any country? Anybody? Figured,,,,Nothing! A USA chess game with mighty Russia.
(vratnica, 8 June 2017 21:10)

That's not what the countries which are NATO members think. And that's what matters, not what a certain "vratnica" thinks! :)

Macedonia means almost same as Albabia, Alpes, Albion, Laba, Elba, Bela Dona, Aksu ect. = WHITE RIVER. So they have a big choice to chose another Slavic name. If I were them I would chose Republika of the Bali Kani or Balkan Republic.

Because the Macedonians definitely belonged to the White Khans long before Greek Pariarch Bessarion II wrote his fairy tales about Mehmet II Fatih aka Alexander the Great ... in 16 century. Read "Orationes et epistolae ad Christianos princes contra Turcos" by Bessarion - the mortal enemy of the Macedonians.

If I were them I would open a wide discussion who Alexander was indeed and if he were Greek then why has he granted all the lands in the White World to the Slavs declaring the rest as slave to the Slavs ?

http://chronologia.org/cgi-bin/ks/ksearch.cgi?terms=Alexander+of+Macedon
http://chronologia.org/en/seven5/empire20_05.html

If we stop to be zombies and return to the question who was Alexander and why his famous GRAMOTA TO THE SLAVS published in 9 European countries in the Middle Ages WAS WRITTEN IN SLOVENSKI (= Church Serbian) ONLY ???? Here's it oryginal text :

https://via-midgard.com/news/in_russia/gramota-afmakedonskogo-o-vladeniyax-slavyan.htm

Automatically many other questions will arise. Did word Greek have ethnical or religional context ? How come that Athens dissapeared for centuries when the Greeks stopped to make coins and even to die in 3-10 centuries ect.

Serbia has no real Anti NATO feelings! If Serbia didn't like NATO why does it have an ipap? Why did Serbia vote for NATO to have total immunity from all Serbia laws! Ipap means Serbia will be in NATO!! Serbia has no problems with NATO because if it did radicals would be governing the country.

It has started. Zaev has sold Macedonia to Albanins. First, name change, then two oficial languages (Macedonian and Albanian) and two oficial religions (Christian and muslim)and then two official states, Macedonia divided betwin Macedonian side and Albanian side and then America and NATO will simply give the Albanian side to the Albania creating a greater Albania. That was the aim of the Americans from the begining.
(Racko, 9 June 2017 13:05)

If Serbia did this in 1990 you would still have Kosovo but you did not so you lost it.

Why not have two official languages, why should people who make 30% of population not have this right, if we were civilized like west we would be better.

Belgium, Swiss etc have multi languages.

Why they must bend to one or the other coexist man, just like Serbs in Kosovo they speak Serbian no big deal - people want jobs enough nationalisam.

NATO are willing to fast track any nation in order to have more influence in Europe.
Macedonia is an embarrassment to Slavs.

(Zoran, 9 June 2017 12:29)

You got it wrong, it will be NATO soldiers from Macedonia/Montenegro/Albania vs. Serbs, supported by their Russian masters. It will be quite a sight when NATO soldiers from our ancient Doclea enter Serbia.

Tito created a "Muslim" nationality in Bosnia-Herzegovina, "Macedonian" republic and language.
(Jugoslavija, 9 June 2017 17:11)

Tito created a language?! lol

Greece should keep up the pressure until they give up on the "Macedonian" fabrication.

UN General Assembly, when Republic of Macedonia was admitted as 181st full-fledged member in the world organisation under the provisional reference Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.[1]

So why not join NATO and EU like this who F cares about the name, really you can change it once you get in and thats all. This will end any fear of federalization leading to break up so then Albanians can have the rights they seek.

NATO are willing to fast track any nation in order to have more influence in Europe.
Macedonia is an embarrassment to Slavs.
(Smart Serb, 11 June 2017 15:55)

Russia is willing to dismember any country (including a Slavic brother country) in order to have more influence.
Russia is an embarrassment to Slavs.

The pressure is all on Athens actually since the Macedonians dont care about the acronyms FYROM as much as some like using it as an insult it will win them a ticket into NATO

Macedonia is totally useless for NATO unlike Montenegro.

How so Macedonia has contributed far more
Professional Army of 7,000
5 highly trained Special Forces Units
Lots of experience domestic and Foreign Mission
Best Helicopter Flight training and Pilots in the Region
there outdated Soviet Heavy arms really dont matter
because they focus on being highly trained and the US and NATO actually in private acknowledge that

vratnica you are right
but it is all about club and Interests
Russia hasn't done anything, nutter, zip for the Balkans
so you pick your sides do as told and win favors it takes a hit on your ego that is what the Serbs dont do well and forever remain alone

The Count of Kosova

Zaev wasnt elected there isnt anything democratic about the Majority not supporting him
it was a coupes and colored revolutions but that is quickly forgotten
were as VMRO-DPMNE and DUI just had to go they were useful to the West once a model and loved
see the pattern
same pattern in Albania
what the Maks are doing is picking the best path they have now

If Zaev wanted to mend relations with Greece he would have announced the demolition of the grotesque Italian made Hellenic reproduction statues that litter the FYROM landscape, the renaming of the airport in Skopje, the renaming of the highway, the renaming of the football stadium, the removal of the repulsive Baroque Hellenic style facades, the correcting of school carriculum, the removal of the Hellenic symbol on the national flag, the removal of all greater Macedonia maps from government institutions and a heartfelt apolgy to the nation of Greece for his nation being vile for the last two and a half decades. Cultural theft cannot be forgiven easily. Actions speak louder than words. Greeks do not want to hear politicians trying new age diplomacy that they learnt in their political science classes. Dimitrov, Šekerinska, Zaevand all the Slavic Fyromians currently running FYROM are just as dogmatic about an exclusivity of the name as the Gruevski ultra nationalists. There is no scope for negotiation with these antiques. Greece is the victim here. Our history has been hijacked by Fyromian Slavs. If FYROM wants exclusivity to the name Macedonia they will have to change their official language to Greek for this corresponds with the Ancient Macedonian language. We Greeks embrace everyone as a Hellene as long as they speak Greek. These Slavs are like a dog with a bone but in their case the bone is plastic and has zero marrow.