Russia "won't sink to 'kitchen diplomacy' level"

Let the cold war II begin, and bring Russia back to their knees again
(Tony Pocesta, 30 December 2016 15:11)

With Putin in Moscow and Trump in Washington? With a EU on the verge of unraveling? With Turkey in Russia's back pocket? With Assad secure in Syria? Yeah whatever you say, bucko :)

Really?! Russia just wants to "play" Trump and get sanctions removed. Sanctions have cause huge damage to Russia. Russian GDP has fallen sharply since sanctions have come into effect. Dictator Putin isn't going to invade anybody soon, because he knows new sanctions will cripple Russia.

Putin it's kissing ass to the future president because he knows he's got a lot to lose, but too late the damage is done . Let the cold war II begin, and bring Russia back to their knees again

President Putin is offering President-elect Trump the opportunity to consign Obama and his Jewish Neocon masters to the dustbin of history. It'll be interesting to see how President Trump responds.

@ Tony Pacesta - Not much of a thinker, are you? WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right! What then, Idiot? These people have NUKES!!! Between them and USA, enough to destoy mankind MANY times over! And you think he will drop to his knees? This is the reason that not many people take your comments seriously...If you have a brain, USE IT, MAN!!! THAT is why people MUST TALK & NEGOTIATE!!! The alternative is unthinkable!!!

Very often Putin acts as a black-belt Judo wrestler. One of the principles is to use oppenet's force against him. If you are attacked you just step away to let him pass and attack him from behind. Think that is was the favorit trick of the light weight fighter like Putin.

WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right!
(Watcher, 30 December 2016 19:32)

Russia's economy dear (which resembles a big petrol station) lol The same thing that caused the Soviet Union to drop to its knees (the Americans did not have to fire a shot).

Unfortunately for Putin, the economy does not follow orders, even if they come from the almighty Vlad. Also, pushing buttons or everybody else going down to their knees, does not help either!

When it comes to economy, this is where things are.

After imposed sanctions Russia's economy started shrinking, but this trend was slowing down , and this year it's only 0.6%.
Both World Bank and IMF predict return of GROWTH at beginning of 2017 that will accelerate later in a year. Overall prediction for 2017 is 1.5% growth. That was calculated with oil prices at $50 per barrel. It's already higher, and it's not likely that will go bellow $50.
But, oil isn't so important in Putin's Russia - during his rule, oil and gas exports went from being 90% of Russia's export to 49% today.
Currency?
Last day of 2015 ruble was at 73.59 per dollar and at 80.43 per euro.
Today is (last day of trading this year) at 61.27 per dollar and at 64.52 per euro.

That's a rise of 20.1 percent against the dollar and by 24.7 percent against the euro this year.

I wouldn't be much concerned if I was Putin...

@ icj1 - come on, dear! Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"! He'll take down the world in flames before he submits Russia to the west , get real! He is not a moral person or a good loser, but as we can see, he's a LOT more brilliant strategist than any western leader! Now if u had said Serbia, I would understand . Even though they took a beating, they had nothing more potent than a good defense to minimize damage during NATO aggression! If they had nukes, bet you no one would have touched them. Regardless, careful what you wish for, Russia cornered or with no way out is capable of taking everyone out with them! For those of u who don't think they would do it , best to find something else to gamble with !

I didn't go to Secret Agent University but if I were Putin, I would also have hacked Trump's information and hold it over his head as blackmail if Trump refused to reverse Obama's decision. Then just continue to blackmail him for the next four years. I would bet my last dollar that is the true situation going on. Putin is an ex-KGB fox.

Very often Putin acts as a black-belt Judo wrestler. One of the principles is to use oppenet's force against him. If you are attacked you just step away to let him pass and attack him from behind. Think that is was the favorit trick of the light weight fighter like Putin.
(rote, 30 December 2016 17:54)


rote,
What are you talking about, have you taken a good look at 60 year old Putin lately, he has grown fat and is sprouting breasts. Albanian female Olympic Judo Champion from Kosova, Majlinda Kelmendi, could whip him twice a day and three times on Sunday.

icj

Avni

Andrew


why are you so worried ? putin has massacred nobody yet. he only puts on them on their knees before he negotiates. so was in georgia, syria and ukraine. just keep smiling and praying hard coz looks like he is merciful enough.

Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

I have no idea what you mean by Putin bowing down to west and what "win" you're talking about!
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He'll take down the world in flames before he submits Russia to the west , get real!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Yes, get real dear! The west has no desire to get a failed state like Russia, regardless of whether Putin submits it or not.
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he's a LOT more brilliant strategist than any western leader!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Well, not sure where the brilliance or the strategy is in running a petrol station, having a GDP per capita lower than most of the west, presiding over a shrinking Russian population, etc etc Very brilliant indeed!
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Regardless, careful what you wish for, Russia cornered or with no way out is capable of taking everyone out with them.
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Well dear, Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station. So not sure who is this "everyone" that is responsible for that, other than Russia itself!

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
Total US debt, includes government, private and business, is $67 trillion. Government owes $23 trillion, $20 trillion (already started on the $21st trillion as of 1 January) is Federal and $3 trillion state and local.
The US has an economy of about $17 trillion which means the overall debt is 400% of GDP. Note, the size of this economy is not due to increased productivity, as it’s inflated for several reasons, and one being all that printing of money – quantitative easing. The actual percentage of Government debt to GDP now is 121% and this is being conservative where some claim it’s as high as 135%, depending what other debt they take into account.
102 million live on or below the poverty line while 95 million are no longer in the labour force. About 47% of all working adults in the US hold down fulltime jobs. In fact 15 million are classified as unemployed, but the Federal Government only claims 7.5 million are unemployed LOL.
Yep, the US is living high on the old hog. Perhaps electing Trump was on a whim, eh?
Oh I await the usual five-year old drivel from our resident Albanian Idiot about sj and CE of B92 forum LOL.

(JS, 2 January 2017 10:54)

The figures I have quoted are correct, yes they are shocking and most have never seen the real information on US debt, but they are correct. I was getting tired of reading about how badly the Russian economy was performing so I thought it was time to level the playing field a little.
So I have to have genuine concern about American people. Perhaps you could tell me did they have genuine concern when their government imposed sanctions on Iraq which killed 500,000 children? (the UN only counted children up to the age of 5 not beyond that died so the 500,000 figure is much higher). Did the American people have concerns when the US dropped depleted uranium over Iraq where today that country has one of the highest cancer rates in the world? **I forgot the depleted uranium that was dropped over Kosovo has no effect on Albanians otherwise I’ll get all these requests for proof.
Iraq and Libya had first class facilities for their people. During Hussein’s rule and prior to sanctions Saudi Arabia used to send their citizens to Bagdad for medical treatment now both counties basket cases.
Yep, you got me it’s all about moral superiority.

WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right!
(Watcher, 30 December 2016 19:32)

Russia's economy dear (which resembles a big petrol station) lol The same thing that caused the Soviet Union to drop to its knees (the Americans did not have to fire a shot).

Unfortunately for Putin, the economy does not follow orders, even if they come from the almighty Vlad. Also, pushing buttons or everybody else going down to their knees, does not help either!
(icj1, 30 December 2016 21:20)

come on, dear! Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

The west could not care less whether Putin bows down or not; the west neither wins nor looses from Putin's bow or lack thereof. But, yes, that's correct, Putin will bow down to Russia's economy, the same way the soviet leaders did. Ultimately, the Russian populace needs to eat and the stomach always, always wins - it's a law of nature that even almighty Vlad cannot change regardless of how much he tries :)

Majlinda Kelmendi, could whip him twice a day ...

(The C**nt of Kosovo, 31 December 2016 17:57)


You mean the girl whom he let raise the coat of arms of the Komnins ? I remember how happy you all were that days and how you trolled Serbs about it. Meanwhile Putin only let the justice happen. Because she deserved it and nothing else mattered.

The way you put the question shows does not make you look descent. Each time you menstruate you discredit yourself and the idea of the independent kosovo. Pussy you deserve some other words but tonight I forgive you and let you go without a slap.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8

@sj

If your comment reflected a genuine concern for the American people, it would be better received by sensible people. But since it smells so much like a heartless attack, it probably won't get the attention that it deserves.

US debt is an enormous issue that deserves serious attention. But as proof of the moral ineptitude of 350 million people it isn't as convincing. And it falls extremely short of what I suspect your ultimate goal is...To prove your moral superiority.

Well, not sure where the brilliance or the strategy is in running a petrol station, having a GDP per capita lower than most of the west

(icj1, 1 January 2017 08:11)

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Recently, icj1 showcased his/her stupidity by failing to comprehend the simple meaning and use of the term "GDP".

If icj1, the CB of B92, understood the meaning of GDP, then perhaps we could explain that a significant part of US GDP is based on dubious transactions, such as the buying and selling of derivatives, CDO, tranches and other intangible, unsecured (and worthless) paper. In contrast, most of Russia's GDP is actually based on tangible products such as oil, gas, minerals, fertilizers, and manufactured high tech material such as rocket engines (which the US is still buying).

I leave it to you, B92 members, to decide who is delusional: the owner of gas/oil/ petrol stations or the con-artist/swindler of fraudulent worthless paper. Hint: the south stream, north stream and any other stream that US has tried to block does not pump worthless paper. Moreover, the US rape of Iraq, Libya, Syria was for a product other than worthless CDOs, tranches and derivatives.

icj: Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station.

Happy New Year and don't be prisoner of your imagination.

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
(sj, 2 January 2017 07:41)

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.

I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Iraq and Libya had first class facilities for their people.
(sj, 2 January 2017 12:32)

Absolutely, the CE of B92 forums sj is correct, as always. Sadam and Gheddafi had developed first class extermination facilities for their own subjects in Iraq and Libya, respectively, which is why their subjects loved them so much!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.

I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 January 2017 17:00)

You capacity for making stupid comments never ceases to amaze me. When ever I think you have reached the bottom you find new lows. I think even you fellow Albanians must be cringing at you posts. But do tell me how the Chinese government think that the US is doing fine?

Well dear, Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station. So not sure who is this "everyone" that is responsible for that, other than Russia itself!
(icj1, 1 January 2017 08:11)

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In contrast to having "cornered" a tangible asset like oil or a corner petrol station, icj1 should realize that the US has fallen into a bottomless pit with nothing more than a fake economy based on CDO's, default swaps, tranches and derivatives.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

Few people in any country know more than a few headlines they might read each day. For the most part, lack of concern about the ill effects of foreign policy is the result of lack of awareness.

Lack of awareness is common. It isn't just an American phenomenon. So I don't see any sense in grouping people together according to ethnicity or citizenship, and then picking fights with those from other groups.

To put my point a different way, the differences between groups are much less than within these groups. That is where the discussion should happen.

This point applies as much to Albanians who come on this site to bash all Serbs en masse.

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
(sj, 2 January 2017 07:41)

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.
I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 January 2017 17:00)

do tell me how the Chinese government think that the US is doing fine?
(sj, 2 January 2017 22:54)

By lending it more than 1 trillion dollars. So either the Chinese are not aware of the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that the US has collapsed and run out of cash or they are aware and they are idiots for continuing to lend more than 1 trillion dollars to a country which is broke!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Putin it's kissing ass to the future president because he knows he's got a lot to lose, but too late the damage is done . Let the cold war II begin, and bring Russia back to their knees again

WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right!
(Watcher, 30 December 2016 19:32)

Russia's economy dear (which resembles a big petrol station) lol The same thing that caused the Soviet Union to drop to its knees (the Americans did not have to fire a shot).

Unfortunately for Putin, the economy does not follow orders, even if they come from the almighty Vlad. Also, pushing buttons or everybody else going down to their knees, does not help either!

Very often Putin acts as a black-belt Judo wrestler. One of the principles is to use oppenet's force against him. If you are attacked you just step away to let him pass and attack him from behind. Think that is was the favorit trick of the light weight fighter like Putin.

@ Tony Pacesta - Not much of a thinker, are you? WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right! What then, Idiot? These people have NUKES!!! Between them and USA, enough to destoy mankind MANY times over! And you think he will drop to his knees? This is the reason that not many people take your comments seriously...If you have a brain, USE IT, MAN!!! THAT is why people MUST TALK & NEGOTIATE!!! The alternative is unthinkable!!!

Really?! Russia just wants to "play" Trump and get sanctions removed. Sanctions have cause huge damage to Russia. Russian GDP has fallen sharply since sanctions have come into effect. Dictator Putin isn't going to invade anybody soon, because he knows new sanctions will cripple Russia.

President Putin is offering President-elect Trump the opportunity to consign Obama and his Jewish Neocon masters to the dustbin of history. It'll be interesting to see how President Trump responds.

Let the cold war II begin, and bring Russia back to their knees again
(Tony Pocesta, 30 December 2016 15:11)

With Putin in Moscow and Trump in Washington? With a EU on the verge of unraveling? With Turkey in Russia's back pocket? With Assad secure in Syria? Yeah whatever you say, bucko :)

icj

Avni

Andrew


why are you so worried ? putin has massacred nobody yet. he only puts on them on their knees before he negotiates. so was in georgia, syria and ukraine. just keep smiling and praying hard coz looks like he is merciful enough.

When it comes to economy, this is where things are.

After imposed sanctions Russia's economy started shrinking, but this trend was slowing down , and this year it's only 0.6%.
Both World Bank and IMF predict return of GROWTH at beginning of 2017 that will accelerate later in a year. Overall prediction for 2017 is 1.5% growth. That was calculated with oil prices at $50 per barrel. It's already higher, and it's not likely that will go bellow $50.
But, oil isn't so important in Putin's Russia - during his rule, oil and gas exports went from being 90% of Russia's export to 49% today.
Currency?
Last day of 2015 ruble was at 73.59 per dollar and at 80.43 per euro.
Today is (last day of trading this year) at 61.27 per dollar and at 64.52 per euro.

That's a rise of 20.1 percent against the dollar and by 24.7 percent against the euro this year.

I wouldn't be much concerned if I was Putin...

I didn't go to Secret Agent University but if I were Putin, I would also have hacked Trump's information and hold it over his head as blackmail if Trump refused to reverse Obama's decision. Then just continue to blackmail him for the next four years. I would bet my last dollar that is the true situation going on. Putin is an ex-KGB fox.

@ icj1 - come on, dear! Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"! He'll take down the world in flames before he submits Russia to the west , get real! He is not a moral person or a good loser, but as we can see, he's a LOT more brilliant strategist than any western leader! Now if u had said Serbia, I would understand . Even though they took a beating, they had nothing more potent than a good defense to minimize damage during NATO aggression! If they had nukes, bet you no one would have touched them. Regardless, careful what you wish for, Russia cornered or with no way out is capable of taking everyone out with them! For those of u who don't think they would do it , best to find something else to gamble with !

icj: Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station.

Happy New Year and don't be prisoner of your imagination.

Very often Putin acts as a black-belt Judo wrestler. One of the principles is to use oppenet's force against him. If you are attacked you just step away to let him pass and attack him from behind. Think that is was the favorit trick of the light weight fighter like Putin.
(rote, 30 December 2016 17:54)


rote,
What are you talking about, have you taken a good look at 60 year old Putin lately, he has grown fat and is sprouting breasts. Albanian female Olympic Judo Champion from Kosova, Majlinda Kelmendi, could whip him twice a day and three times on Sunday.

Majlinda Kelmendi, could whip him twice a day ...

(The C**nt of Kosovo, 31 December 2016 17:57)


You mean the girl whom he let raise the coat of arms of the Komnins ? I remember how happy you all were that days and how you trolled Serbs about it. Meanwhile Putin only let the justice happen. Because she deserved it and nothing else mattered.

The way you put the question shows does not make you look descent. Each time you menstruate you discredit yourself and the idea of the independent kosovo. Pussy you deserve some other words but tonight I forgive you and let you go without a slap.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD+%D0%BD%D0%B0+%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8

Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

I have no idea what you mean by Putin bowing down to west and what "win" you're talking about!
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He'll take down the world in flames before he submits Russia to the west , get real!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Yes, get real dear! The west has no desire to get a failed state like Russia, regardless of whether Putin submits it or not.
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he's a LOT more brilliant strategist than any western leader!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Well, not sure where the brilliance or the strategy is in running a petrol station, having a GDP per capita lower than most of the west, presiding over a shrinking Russian population, etc etc Very brilliant indeed!
----------

Regardless, careful what you wish for, Russia cornered or with no way out is capable of taking everyone out with them.
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

Well dear, Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station. So not sure who is this "everyone" that is responsible for that, other than Russia itself!

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
Total US debt, includes government, private and business, is $67 trillion. Government owes $23 trillion, $20 trillion (already started on the $21st trillion as of 1 January) is Federal and $3 trillion state and local.
The US has an economy of about $17 trillion which means the overall debt is 400% of GDP. Note, the size of this economy is not due to increased productivity, as it’s inflated for several reasons, and one being all that printing of money – quantitative easing. The actual percentage of Government debt to GDP now is 121% and this is being conservative where some claim it’s as high as 135%, depending what other debt they take into account.
102 million live on or below the poverty line while 95 million are no longer in the labour force. About 47% of all working adults in the US hold down fulltime jobs. In fact 15 million are classified as unemployed, but the Federal Government only claims 7.5 million are unemployed LOL.
Yep, the US is living high on the old hog. Perhaps electing Trump was on a whim, eh?
Oh I await the usual five-year old drivel from our resident Albanian Idiot about sj and CE of B92 forum LOL.

@sj

If your comment reflected a genuine concern for the American people, it would be better received by sensible people. But since it smells so much like a heartless attack, it probably won't get the attention that it deserves.

US debt is an enormous issue that deserves serious attention. But as proof of the moral ineptitude of 350 million people it isn't as convincing. And it falls extremely short of what I suspect your ultimate goal is...To prove your moral superiority.

(JS, 2 January 2017 10:54)

The figures I have quoted are correct, yes they are shocking and most have never seen the real information on US debt, but they are correct. I was getting tired of reading about how badly the Russian economy was performing so I thought it was time to level the playing field a little.
So I have to have genuine concern about American people. Perhaps you could tell me did they have genuine concern when their government imposed sanctions on Iraq which killed 500,000 children? (the UN only counted children up to the age of 5 not beyond that died so the 500,000 figure is much higher). Did the American people have concerns when the US dropped depleted uranium over Iraq where today that country has one of the highest cancer rates in the world? **I forgot the depleted uranium that was dropped over Kosovo has no effect on Albanians otherwise I’ll get all these requests for proof.
Iraq and Libya had first class facilities for their people. During Hussein’s rule and prior to sanctions Saudi Arabia used to send their citizens to Bagdad for medical treatment now both counties basket cases.
Yep, you got me it’s all about moral superiority.

WHat makes you think Putin will drop to his knees? What if he says " Russia goes down on knees, EVERYBODY goes down on knees" and proceeds to say " Let loose the dogs of war", then starts pushing buttons, left and right!
(Watcher, 30 December 2016 19:32)

Russia's economy dear (which resembles a big petrol station) lol The same thing that caused the Soviet Union to drop to its knees (the Americans did not have to fire a shot).

Unfortunately for Putin, the economy does not follow orders, even if they come from the almighty Vlad. Also, pushing buttons or everybody else going down to their knees, does not help either!
(icj1, 30 December 2016 21:20)

come on, dear! Are u serious? U really think Putin would bow down to west and say " you win"!
(Watcher, 31 December 2016 07:14)

The west could not care less whether Putin bows down or not; the west neither wins nor looses from Putin's bow or lack thereof. But, yes, that's correct, Putin will bow down to Russia's economy, the same way the soviet leaders did. Ultimately, the Russian populace needs to eat and the stomach always, always wins - it's a law of nature that even almighty Vlad cannot change regardless of how much he tries :)

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.

I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 January 2017 17:00)

You capacity for making stupid comments never ceases to amaze me. When ever I think you have reached the bottom you find new lows. I think even you fellow Albanians must be cringing at you posts. But do tell me how the Chinese government think that the US is doing fine?

Few people in any country know more than a few headlines they might read each day. For the most part, lack of concern about the ill effects of foreign policy is the result of lack of awareness.

Lack of awareness is common. It isn't just an American phenomenon. So I don't see any sense in grouping people together according to ethnicity or citizenship, and then picking fights with those from other groups.

To put my point a different way, the differences between groups are much less than within these groups. That is where the discussion should happen.

This point applies as much to Albanians who come on this site to bash all Serbs en masse.

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
(sj, 2 January 2017 07:41)

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.

I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Iraq and Libya had first class facilities for their people.
(sj, 2 January 2017 12:32)

Absolutely, the CE of B92 forums sj is correct, as always. Sadam and Gheddafi had developed first class extermination facilities for their own subjects in Iraq and Libya, respectively, which is why their subjects loved them so much!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

For those who think the US is doing fine here are some of the current statistics.
(sj, 2 January 2017 07:41)

Is the above directed to China's government since they are the people who think that the US is doing fine.
I'm sure though that now that the CE of B92 forums sj has decided to get China's government acquainted with his/her teachings, things will change :)
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 January 2017 17:00)

do tell me how the Chinese government think that the US is doing fine?
(sj, 2 January 2017 22:54)

By lending it more than 1 trillion dollars. So either the Chinese are not aware of the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that the US has collapsed and run out of cash or they are aware and they are idiots for continuing to lend more than 1 trillion dollars to a country which is broke!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Well dear, Russia has cornered itself into becoming nothing more than a petrol station. So not sure who is this "everyone" that is responsible for that, other than Russia itself!
(icj1, 1 January 2017 08:11)

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In contrast to having "cornered" a tangible asset like oil or a corner petrol station, icj1 should realize that the US has fallen into a bottomless pit with nothing more than a fake economy based on CDO's, default swaps, tranches and derivatives.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

Well, not sure where the brilliance or the strategy is in running a petrol station, having a GDP per capita lower than most of the west

(icj1, 1 January 2017 08:11)

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Recently, icj1 showcased his/her stupidity by failing to comprehend the simple meaning and use of the term "GDP".

If icj1, the CB of B92, understood the meaning of GDP, then perhaps we could explain that a significant part of US GDP is based on dubious transactions, such as the buying and selling of derivatives, CDO, tranches and other intangible, unsecured (and worthless) paper. In contrast, most of Russia's GDP is actually based on tangible products such as oil, gas, minerals, fertilizers, and manufactured high tech material such as rocket engines (which the US is still buying).

I leave it to you, B92 members, to decide who is delusional: the owner of gas/oil/ petrol stations or the con-artist/swindler of fraudulent worthless paper. Hint: the south stream, north stream and any other stream that US has tried to block does not pump worthless paper. Moreover, the US rape of Iraq, Libya, Syria was for a product other than worthless CDOs, tranches and derivatives.