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Thursday, 15.12.2016.

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Djuric arrives in northern Kosovo despite Pristina's ban

Serbian Government's Office for Kosovo and Metohija Director Marko Djuric on Thursday arrived in Kosovo, where he attended the opening of a gas station.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 23:32)

No dear, what you wrote is NOT true all around the world!

In the country where I live, the real estate registry shows me as being the owner of my land, not the country.

And the same is the case in Serbia. For example, the real estate registry in Serbia shows that a certain Slobodan is the owner of this 2122 M2 of land in Jagodina http://katastar.rgz.gov.rs/KnWebPublic/NepokretnostProperties.aspx?nepID=dfbJfSVBHxQMQGIpe4ad2A== not Serbia.

So you are dead wrong, dear and you have no clue at all what you're talking about.

rote

pre 7 godina

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
(Please, No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:19)

At least I don't hide myself and I am open to respond any wuestion. Write it on your nose that Ahmed III was the first Sultan burried according to Sharia in 1703 i.e. in 18 century ! All previous were Orthodox Christians including Mehmet II (Prophet Mohammad) whose Quran and Bible means the same - READING and was known here as ВТОРОЕ ПИСАНИЕ. So was Soliman Selimovic (Suleiman Qanuni). Also the only language you could use in the High Court of Constantinople was SLOVENSKI (Church Serbian) = the official language of the Great Horde.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_III

rote

pre 7 godina

The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.
(Please No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:13)

Sooner or later someone else will be telling you similar things. Then you may ask yoursel which of us were idiots. I already know the answer so my task is only to make you doubt the comfortable stories you have been supplied with. When i receive 12 poor comments against 2 likes i am happy because it meants that 2 of you already began to think.

Sooner or later you will wonder how come that pyramids are all over the world and there are Cathar/Bulgar/Bogomil crosses (with a ring) inside. How come that on old icons of Jesus cannons were painted while the Savior looks rather Slavic than Jewish and Jordan River is hundreds meters wide. How come that hundreds of Slavic and Turkic toponymals and ethnonimals can be found all over the world. How come that about 35 countries of today were once called India ... or how come that the famous Mahabharata and Chinese sources describes episodes of the European history including Mediterranean ect. ect. How come that Thailand was called New Judea before 18 century or why many peoples do not accept the names they had been sticked to ... How come that parents gave their first son name like PROPHET CRUSSIFIED (JESUS CHRIST) ect.

Please, No B.S.

pre 7 godina

Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.
(rote, 16 December 2016 22:02)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.

Please No B.S.

pre 7 godina

In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.
(rote, 16 December 2016 20:52)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ icj1 - unless you're also bigKar, the point I was making foes not apply to u! Bigkar stated this great grandfather, or to that effect, owned property and the family has been there to date... My point is even though his family has been there a very, very long time, it doesn't make it Albanian land! At end od day, it is Serb land and country! This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?
(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 23:27)

I've not heard the Albanian government demanding any "greater Albania" because of the existence of some Albanian kingdom in the past all those territories once belonged to.

But if the Albanian government demands that, I agree with you that that would be as idiotic as the Serbian government claiming Kosovo or the Italian government claiming most of Europe because of what the territories of some defunct kingdom were in the past.

icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

Try not paying your taxes, friend!
See how your "ownership" thing works out for you...
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 01:28)

If you don't pay your taxes or debt, you become delinquent on your debt or taxes and the creditor (the bank, another person, the government) can try to garnish your wages, find your bank accounts or your other assets and can seize them after having secured a court judgement. But until that happens, you are the onwer of those assets. So what's your point?

According to your logic, Serbia's creditors own Serbia because there is a chance that Serbia may not pay its debt! You have a very weird concept of ownership, dear!

You still did not answer my question whether you are sure that there are no individual land owners in Serbia. Does the cadastral registry of Serbia shows Serbia as being the owner of all lots on land in Serbia?!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries?

BigKar

if you think Serbia shoul stop its demands to regain control of Kosovo for the reasons you mentioned why don't albanians stop demanding territory in neighbouring countries for the sake of "recreating natural Albania". Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni

Before mid-16 century the Catholics were part of the Orthodox like all other churches that existed at the time. Serbs were a sort of Rus people. And in the times of the caste society they were warriors of the Great Horde called Cossacks or Horde. They could only fight and train but were forbidden to work. Monasteries were built all over the world for only two reasons. To accommodate the retired Cossacks who for many reasons could not return to their homes and to control the colonies of the Horde. Of course churches were built inside the monasteries because before 17 century all the Cossacks were Orthodox Christians. Serbs must dominated on the Balkans called The Great Princedom of Bulgaria at the time. All peoples here were called Bulgars i.e. people from Volga (Belga = White). So there’s nothing strange that Serbian defensive monasteries were built in every place. Besides there were no nations at the time. Ethnical groups were receiving names after their military commanders or geographic places. Not all who were called Serbs were of the same origin and so were the Albanians. They just had joint commander. Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.

rote

pre 7 godina

BigKar

Your problem is that people always prepare for the already passed war and you behave as if you enjoyed a military victory. We all remember how fast the Whites evacuated from our lands and we've never seen you in a survival war to justify the proud Rus name of the Albanians. At least for the last 200-300 years. Make peace with the Serbs or get ready to fight the Russians ad hoq. Europe won't move a finger you know. Ask Allah that Putin sends no Chechens there because they will kill all males including children. Just the way they did in war 080808.

From Russia with love!

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigkar- ok, I hear you!
However, you must understand, their are battle hardened twisted idiots in Serbia that are pissing in their pants with anticipation to engage battle hardened twisted idiots in your Kosova!
you teach your kids to pull triggers, I will teach mine to use computers and read charts! Good luck to you, Sir and I'll pray for the kids!

rote

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

BigKar : Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East?

I don’t know who exactly built this or that site but everything you mention or mean has been built under the Great Horde and was property of theirs. In history of J.Scaliger that we use today the Horde was divided into the Roman and the Mongol Empires. But all 3 were one empire that appeared in early 14 and ended in the fall of 16 century. It was the empire of the Early Christioans aka the Pagans in 14 century and the empire of the Apostolic Christians in 15-16 centuries. In both cases it was empire of the Rurikovici Dynasty to which most likely the Nemanici also belonged. So it’s always strange to hear whom did the monasteries or Vatican or America or Arctic or Japan belong. Everything was property of the Rurikovici. No matter who exactly has constructed or melt or harvested something. Besides there were no nations before 17 century so our disputes are close to nonsense. In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Watcher, I have no time for silly arguments. Nobody ever said that Vojvodina is Albanian.

I will teach my kids what my parents taught me: No man deserves to have a country unless he's willing to die and kill for it. I left Kosova as a 5 year old and returned when it was time to fight and don't regret any of the wounds I have on my body. When their time is to defend their land, they too will stand up and give their lives for their country. If you don't your kids to die, don't send them to enslave my kids.

Kosova is no Putin's backyard, it has never been. The 90s are over, if the Serbian army thinks it will stroll in, they will be gravely mistaken. You have no idea of the arsenal amassed here in these 17 years. We'll be waiting for you.

If you want to pretend to talk, we'll pretend to talk, but it will be as useless as any pretend talk up until now. Unless Serbs accept these two facts: 1. Albanians are not Serbs, and 2. As such, they have no place in a country of Serbs and for Serbs; there's nothing really of substance to talk about.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- well, u had brought up your grandfather and his history , not me! I agree with u, the land belongs to that country, not the owner! Try not paying taxes, see who comes to beat you over the head with threats of taking the land back... That is true pretty much everywhere. Anyways, nice talking to you and my wish most sincere is that the politicians can come to an agreement that works for all! My final point is that if both side feel slighted, but agree to a settlement, there is an opportunity for stability... If only one side feels slighted, that's a festering wound waiting for some ambitious politician to exploit! My opinion ! Take care!

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries? Who build that mosque in Belgrade? Does that mean that Turkey should be taking over Serbia again?


@LOL: "As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo."

Than why is not the Serbian army in N Kosovo? Why does this Serbian minister have to sneak in through the woods to go there? Even without having control on the ground, Kosova doesn't have to move a finger to keep the border where it is, much to the chagrin of Serbia. You can play all the theater you want - it won't matter. Who doesn't understands why that is, has no idea of the forces at play.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Albanians can claim holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century.
(RighteousBilly, 16 December 2016 07:40)

So Serbs were settled in Kosovo, as well, like the Albanians. So, yes, you are right, Serbs, like the Albanians, can claim their holy land somewhere else, but not in Kosovo and Metohija.

Joni

pre 7 godina

(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 13:29)

The same question: what was doing Hilandar monastery in middle of Greeks? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilandar

Question: What was doing these monasteries and Churches in middle of Albanians?

Question: Why Turks did not destroyed the Orthodox churches in none of the Orthodox countries?
Why none of the Orthodox countries, even Armenia, which share borders with Turks, were not forced to change the religion?

Question: Why there did not survive a single old Catholic Church in Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece? There lived a lot of Catholic population?

There are just the Orthodox Churches there because were the only one which Turks did not destroyed, is simple! In Bosnia you will find one old Mosque next to the Orthodox church!
All you know well why those Orthodox Churches survived, and why are in middle of Albanians, because once upon a time there lived even Albanian Orthodox.

icj1

pre 7 godina

there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it?
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 05:57)

No, it does not mean that. That's idiotic because a lot of land does not have ethnicity. That lot of land is neither Serbian nor Albanian - the owner of the lot may be Serbian or Albanian.

That lot of land is simply owned by the person that the cadastral registry shows as the owner of that lot of land. Is that simple...

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

zxcvbnm

If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there? I doubt it was the albanians because they tried to burn them all down

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

Rightoubilly don't speak out of your ass . In less you're lecturing young serbs, because that's what you do in Serbia ... we don't buy that BS , we speak facts and history . Kosova was always Albanians "Dardans" majority of the churches and monasteries were also ours ,so enough with the false propaganda

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo."

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from
(Ilyrian,"

You Albanians can claim your holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century. From medieval churches, cities to modern everything was built by Serbs. Albanians came to KosMet in greater numbers only in 1690 during Ottoman reighn. Albanians also settled themdelves in central Serbia and in Bulgaria. They were expelled from Serbia and Bulagria in 20th century as Germans were after ww2 from Czechoslovakia.
As far being law abiding citizen, you are the last to speak. You were not respecting law and you were attacking police. Same thing for you now, hypocrits.

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian.

zxcvbnm

If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo. If you go back even further serbs were in majority. A hight birthrate doesen't doesn't give you the right to claim a territory. Why don't you look to Kosovos history? Serbs have their monasteries and churches from the 13th centrury. What do you have?

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it? U would teach your kids to fight? Teach them to talk and be fair so they won't have to fight! I don't believe that u believe what happened in Kosovo would happen again... There is no political appetite from the west to take on Putin in his backyard! Those days are long gone..time to talk! I agree, You sould not be under Serbia, but neither should there be independence! Time to hammer out a deal that will satisfy neither, yet the children will live.. From both sides!
Thanks for the response!

LOL

pre 7 godina

You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 23:19)

As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo. But feel free to spill your childrens' blood for your pride. I just hope you get their permission before you throw them to the wolves. Such savages you are to consider your children cannon fodder. A shame you think so little of your own, but life must be cheap where you were born. Keep flexing them nuts of yours

Navi

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

"Europe's Youngest Democrats".

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, who took your land? My grandfather has owned the land where I live, and before him his grandfather, and his grandfather before him, as far as anyone can remember in the family. And so on with every other kosovar family. Enough with propaganda and slogans. If you want to go back spinning propaganda, please do, I won't follow you there.

We won't go anywhere, independence is a done deal, whether you can accept it or not. I'm not afraid to spill my blood, neither to teach my kids to spill their blood when their time comes to defend their country. We fought you when we had no chance in hell, what makes you think we won't do it again.

If you want to talk seriously and come to an amicable neighborly arrangement, sure, why not. What is that you want again? Going back under Serbia is not an option. You can off course go back and wait for better geopolitical situation, and we'll be ready for you whenever you want to attack.

The only deal I see, is exchange Presheva Valley for N Kosova. You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.

And if you dont want that, then let's go back and watch the entertainment provided for free by clown Djuric.

LOL

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

No you can't. You have to get a real country to support you on everything. Even a regional calling code. Don't flex nuts you know you never had, kid. You only look like an impotent nationalist.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- actually it's the Albanians that need to make up their minds on what they want to be. I would safely bet you are a minority in the way you're looking to deal with this issue! You cannot just tell Beograd" our friends beat you up, took your land and gave it to us and now it is ours". Obviously you will default to saying it was always yours and so on, but whichever way you look at it, that's not how it works! That is why Kosovo will always be a question mark in world politics and receptive to change of hands! I believe you know how foolish it would be to think Kosovo will alwAys be a powder keg. The "friends of Kosovo" will not always be available or around! That is why I keep talking about the winds of change are here and it won't be pretty for Srbs or Albanians!
More than autonomy, less than independence is the only solution! Jaw-jaw until it's figured out! Our children's blood depends on it!
* also, please stop with the foul language.. No one is cussing at you.
Thanks for hearing me out.

Avni

pre 7 godina

Question is "how did he arrive in Kosovo"? Arriving in Kosovo like a Syrian refugee is not good for Djuric. I guess now that Kosovo got +383 he can't afford to make phone calls from Belgrade.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Juric crossed Kosoves border in the Ambulance maske him self with a bandates thats how he when to kosvo elegaly.
(Bahri, 15 December 2016 19:01)

Did that really happen? That's kind of funny if its true, but even funnier is Isa Mustafa. The supposed "prime minister of kosovo" was hiding under a blanket in the trunk of a car escorted by KFOR to northern Kosovo-Metohija. Some country, some independence.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, you guys have to make up your minds whether we are "terrorists" or "young europeans"? Because in our free country, we don't much care of what the old butchers think.

You want to talk seriously? We've been talking seriously all the way back to Rambouillet, all we've heard from you are silly slogans. Tell us what the eff is that you want from Albanians?


@ari, yeah, we're going to continue making fools of ourselves, if you don't mind. We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.

Bahri

pre 7 godina

Djuric cross the Kosovo border hide in the Ambulance he maske him self with a bandates hahahaha what a joke serbs politics are. Whole world are going to leaugufe with him.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 16:16)

If that were the case, not only would the Kosovo government not try to ban him every time he did something that pissed them off, but you wouldn't feel the need to rant and rave about it on the Internet. But Albanians are people who love to go ballistic whenever their over hyped sense of pride is challenged. Thanks for disproving your own point :)

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

The provincial institutions in Pristina have two choices: 1.) continue making fools out of themselves or 2.) work with their country Serbia on improving living standards for Albanians and Serbs of the province. Serbs aren't going anywhere. A resettlement project on the model Israeli projects in the West Bank are already underway in Northern Kosovo. Serbs south of the Ibar have a higher birth rate than Serbs anywhere else. Geopolitical changes in the world are not favoring the separatists. Serbia's economy is growing, might be top 5 this year and top 2 next year in all of Europe. Serbia's position will continue to strengthen and you will not be able to avoid Serbia. Grow up and start negotiating peaceful reintegration and high autonomy so that your people can stop leaving Kosovo-Metohija on the mass scale that we've seen since 2015.

rote

pre 7 godina

ILLIRIAN The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo.

It once was Russian land but now it's Serbian.
You cannot legalize it unless Serbs say so.
We'll be back when time comes to restore the soveregnity.
I personally believe there must a chare for the Whites too.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigKar - sadly, this is probably true, it would be burned down with him tied to it. My mind is just boggled that that would happen in a society that claims to be "young Europeans" and the most "tolerent" of it's minorities...I understand the wounds of war are still open, but you don't see or hear about "Americans" or "westeners" being intimidated or "burned" in Beograd even with the city being bombed by them? Time to talk seriously, people, time to talk!!!! Winds of change are here...

BigKar

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has. Do you even realize how childish his little adventures are? He asks for permission to enter, Kosova govt denies it, then he sneaks in through the forest, snaps a few pics at some mafioso gas station, and declares victory as if has done something extraordinarily heroic. Here you have an entire ministry of the Serbian govt, whose only purpose in life is to stage clownish games, yet they don't even manage to piss off the other side; have you ever heard of anyone in the Kosova govt. losing their job because Djuric sneaked in without permission?
Now, if Serbia wants their moneys worth from this ministry, he should try for example to go and open that gas station in Gjakova. But he knows that it will be burned down immediately with Djuric tied to the pump.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I suppose "banning" Djuric is the only thing these Albanians can do since they couldn't ban three petrol stations from being opened in northern Kosovo. So they open without his presence and. Typical action from a people with starved egos.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Dear B92, any chance of some hard facts for this story? Has he indeed been banned, when, by whom, what reason has been officially given by the Kosovo Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Comments from Djuric perhaps, official response of the Serbian Government? Simply citing another media outlet as having said one thing or another is very poor journalism. Establish some facts of your own and then let us have them. My fellow posters on this site are currently arguing over nothing.

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???"


Its called Kosova and its not a part of serbia(serbia occupied it in 1912).
its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian. Its albanian territory and albanian land. We have the right to ban serbs from Kosova if we want to. Kosova has its own government, own laws and own rules. And it has been albanian majority in a long time. Saying "kosovo is serbia" will not change the fact that serbia has zero control over Kosova and its inhabitants.

sj

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.
(Revolution, 15 December 2016 12:34)


The point is that your Albos have big mouths, but regularly get told to shut them LOL. How many times has this same scenario occurred?????? I have lost count

sj

pre 7 godina

ZZZZZZZZ are these dumb Albos ever going to wake up????? LOL. How many times have we read this before???? and what has happened? Dumb, Dumbs have done absolutely NOTHING about it and backed won over and over again LOL. Is there any wonder the west thinks these bozos are only worthy as cannon fodder???? That's why the west has never cleaned up the depleted uranium.

Revolution

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???

sj

pre 7 godina

ZZZZZZZZ are these dumb Albos ever going to wake up????? LOL. How many times have we read this before???? and what has happened? Dumb, Dumbs have done absolutely NOTHING about it and backed won over and over again LOL. Is there any wonder the west thinks these bozos are only worthy as cannon fodder???? That's why the west has never cleaned up the depleted uranium.

sj

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.
(Revolution, 15 December 2016 12:34)


The point is that your Albos have big mouths, but regularly get told to shut them LOL. How many times has this same scenario occurred?????? I have lost count

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

The provincial institutions in Pristina have two choices: 1.) continue making fools out of themselves or 2.) work with their country Serbia on improving living standards for Albanians and Serbs of the province. Serbs aren't going anywhere. A resettlement project on the model Israeli projects in the West Bank are already underway in Northern Kosovo. Serbs south of the Ibar have a higher birth rate than Serbs anywhere else. Geopolitical changes in the world are not favoring the separatists. Serbia's economy is growing, might be top 5 this year and top 2 next year in all of Europe. Serbia's position will continue to strengthen and you will not be able to avoid Serbia. Grow up and start negotiating peaceful reintegration and high autonomy so that your people can stop leaving Kosovo-Metohija on the mass scale that we've seen since 2015.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Dear B92, any chance of some hard facts for this story? Has he indeed been banned, when, by whom, what reason has been officially given by the Kosovo Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Comments from Djuric perhaps, official response of the Serbian Government? Simply citing another media outlet as having said one thing or another is very poor journalism. Establish some facts of your own and then let us have them. My fellow posters on this site are currently arguing over nothing.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I suppose "banning" Djuric is the only thing these Albanians can do since they couldn't ban three petrol stations from being opened in northern Kosovo. So they open without his presence and. Typical action from a people with starved egos.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Juric crossed Kosoves border in the Ambulance maske him self with a bandates thats how he when to kosvo elegaly.
(Bahri, 15 December 2016 19:01)

Did that really happen? That's kind of funny if its true, but even funnier is Isa Mustafa. The supposed "prime minister of kosovo" was hiding under a blanket in the trunk of a car escorted by KFOR to northern Kosovo-Metohija. Some country, some independence.

Revolution

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.

rote

pre 7 godina

ILLIRIAN The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo.

It once was Russian land but now it's Serbian.
You cannot legalize it unless Serbs say so.
We'll be back when time comes to restore the soveregnity.
I personally believe there must a chare for the Whites too.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 16:16)

If that were the case, not only would the Kosovo government not try to ban him every time he did something that pissed them off, but you wouldn't feel the need to rant and rave about it on the Internet. But Albanians are people who love to go ballistic whenever their over hyped sense of pride is challenged. Thanks for disproving your own point :)

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from

LOL

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

No you can't. You have to get a real country to support you on everything. Even a regional calling code. Don't flex nuts you know you never had, kid. You only look like an impotent nationalist.

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???"


Its called Kosova and its not a part of serbia(serbia occupied it in 1912).
its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian. Its albanian territory and albanian land. We have the right to ban serbs from Kosova if we want to. Kosova has its own government, own laws and own rules. And it has been albanian majority in a long time. Saying "kosovo is serbia" will not change the fact that serbia has zero control over Kosova and its inhabitants.

Avni

pre 7 godina

Question is "how did he arrive in Kosovo"? Arriving in Kosovo like a Syrian refugee is not good for Djuric. I guess now that Kosovo got +383 he can't afford to make phone calls from Belgrade.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigKar - sadly, this is probably true, it would be burned down with him tied to it. My mind is just boggled that that would happen in a society that claims to be "young Europeans" and the most "tolerent" of it's minorities...I understand the wounds of war are still open, but you don't see or hear about "Americans" or "westeners" being intimidated or "burned" in Beograd even with the city being bombed by them? Time to talk seriously, people, time to talk!!!! Winds of change are here...

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian.

zxcvbnm

If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo. If you go back even further serbs were in majority. A hight birthrate doesen't doesn't give you the right to claim a territory. Why don't you look to Kosovos history? Serbs have their monasteries and churches from the 13th centrury. What do you have?

BigKar

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has. Do you even realize how childish his little adventures are? He asks for permission to enter, Kosova govt denies it, then he sneaks in through the forest, snaps a few pics at some mafioso gas station, and declares victory as if has done something extraordinarily heroic. Here you have an entire ministry of the Serbian govt, whose only purpose in life is to stage clownish games, yet they don't even manage to piss off the other side; have you ever heard of anyone in the Kosova govt. losing their job because Djuric sneaked in without permission?
Now, if Serbia wants their moneys worth from this ministry, he should try for example to go and open that gas station in Gjakova. But he knows that it will be burned down immediately with Djuric tied to the pump.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, who took your land? My grandfather has owned the land where I live, and before him his grandfather, and his grandfather before him, as far as anyone can remember in the family. And so on with every other kosovar family. Enough with propaganda and slogans. If you want to go back spinning propaganda, please do, I won't follow you there.

We won't go anywhere, independence is a done deal, whether you can accept it or not. I'm not afraid to spill my blood, neither to teach my kids to spill their blood when their time comes to defend their country. We fought you when we had no chance in hell, what makes you think we won't do it again.

If you want to talk seriously and come to an amicable neighborly arrangement, sure, why not. What is that you want again? Going back under Serbia is not an option. You can off course go back and wait for better geopolitical situation, and we'll be ready for you whenever you want to attack.

The only deal I see, is exchange Presheva Valley for N Kosova. You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.

And if you dont want that, then let's go back and watch the entertainment provided for free by clown Djuric.

Bahri

pre 7 godina

Djuric cross the Kosovo border hide in the Ambulance he maske him self with a bandates hahahaha what a joke serbs politics are. Whole world are going to leaugufe with him.

LOL

pre 7 godina

You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 23:19)

As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo. But feel free to spill your childrens' blood for your pride. I just hope you get their permission before you throw them to the wolves. Such savages you are to consider your children cannon fodder. A shame you think so little of your own, but life must be cheap where you were born. Keep flexing them nuts of yours

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from
(Ilyrian,"

You Albanians can claim your holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century. From medieval churches, cities to modern everything was built by Serbs. Albanians came to KosMet in greater numbers only in 1690 during Ottoman reighn. Albanians also settled themdelves in central Serbia and in Bulgaria. They were expelled from Serbia and Bulagria in 20th century as Germans were after ww2 from Czechoslovakia.
As far being law abiding citizen, you are the last to speak. You were not respecting law and you were attacking police. Same thing for you now, hypocrits.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, you guys have to make up your minds whether we are "terrorists" or "young europeans"? Because in our free country, we don't much care of what the old butchers think.

You want to talk seriously? We've been talking seriously all the way back to Rambouillet, all we've heard from you are silly slogans. Tell us what the eff is that you want from Albanians?


@ari, yeah, we're going to continue making fools of ourselves, if you don't mind. We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- actually it's the Albanians that need to make up their minds on what they want to be. I would safely bet you are a minority in the way you're looking to deal with this issue! You cannot just tell Beograd" our friends beat you up, took your land and gave it to us and now it is ours". Obviously you will default to saying it was always yours and so on, but whichever way you look at it, that's not how it works! That is why Kosovo will always be a question mark in world politics and receptive to change of hands! I believe you know how foolish it would be to think Kosovo will alwAys be a powder keg. The "friends of Kosovo" will not always be available or around! That is why I keep talking about the winds of change are here and it won't be pretty for Srbs or Albanians!
More than autonomy, less than independence is the only solution! Jaw-jaw until it's figured out! Our children's blood depends on it!
* also, please stop with the foul language.. No one is cussing at you.
Thanks for hearing me out.

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

zxcvbnm

If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there? I doubt it was the albanians because they tried to burn them all down

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo."

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

Rightoubilly don't speak out of your ass . In less you're lecturing young serbs, because that's what you do in Serbia ... we don't buy that BS , we speak facts and history . Kosova was always Albanians "Dardans" majority of the churches and monasteries were also ours ,so enough with the false propaganda

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries?

BigKar

if you think Serbia shoul stop its demands to regain control of Kosovo for the reasons you mentioned why don't albanians stop demanding territory in neighbouring countries for the sake of "recreating natural Albania". Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?

Navi

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

"Europe's Youngest Democrats".

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it? U would teach your kids to fight? Teach them to talk and be fair so they won't have to fight! I don't believe that u believe what happened in Kosovo would happen again... There is no political appetite from the west to take on Putin in his backyard! Those days are long gone..time to talk! I agree, You sould not be under Serbia, but neither should there be independence! Time to hammer out a deal that will satisfy neither, yet the children will live.. From both sides!
Thanks for the response!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Albanians can claim holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century.
(RighteousBilly, 16 December 2016 07:40)

So Serbs were settled in Kosovo, as well, like the Albanians. So, yes, you are right, Serbs, like the Albanians, can claim their holy land somewhere else, but not in Kosovo and Metohija.

Please No B.S.

pre 7 godina

In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.
(rote, 16 December 2016 20:52)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.

Please, No B.S.

pre 7 godina

Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.
(rote, 16 December 2016 22:02)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.

icj1

pre 7 godina

there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it?
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 05:57)

No, it does not mean that. That's idiotic because a lot of land does not have ethnicity. That lot of land is neither Serbian nor Albanian - the owner of the lot may be Serbian or Albanian.

That lot of land is simply owned by the person that the cadastral registry shows as the owner of that lot of land. Is that simple...

Joni

pre 7 godina

(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 13:29)

The same question: what was doing Hilandar monastery in middle of Greeks? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilandar

Question: What was doing these monasteries and Churches in middle of Albanians?

Question: Why Turks did not destroyed the Orthodox churches in none of the Orthodox countries?
Why none of the Orthodox countries, even Armenia, which share borders with Turks, were not forced to change the religion?

Question: Why there did not survive a single old Catholic Church in Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece? There lived a lot of Catholic population?

There are just the Orthodox Churches there because were the only one which Turks did not destroyed, is simple! In Bosnia you will find one old Mosque next to the Orthodox church!
All you know well why those Orthodox Churches survived, and why are in middle of Albanians, because once upon a time there lived even Albanian Orthodox.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Watcher, I have no time for silly arguments. Nobody ever said that Vojvodina is Albanian.

I will teach my kids what my parents taught me: No man deserves to have a country unless he's willing to die and kill for it. I left Kosova as a 5 year old and returned when it was time to fight and don't regret any of the wounds I have on my body. When their time is to defend their land, they too will stand up and give their lives for their country. If you don't your kids to die, don't send them to enslave my kids.

Kosova is no Putin's backyard, it has never been. The 90s are over, if the Serbian army thinks it will stroll in, they will be gravely mistaken. You have no idea of the arsenal amassed here in these 17 years. We'll be waiting for you.

If you want to pretend to talk, we'll pretend to talk, but it will be as useless as any pretend talk up until now. Unless Serbs accept these two facts: 1. Albanians are not Serbs, and 2. As such, they have no place in a country of Serbs and for Serbs; there's nothing really of substance to talk about.

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni

Before mid-16 century the Catholics were part of the Orthodox like all other churches that existed at the time. Serbs were a sort of Rus people. And in the times of the caste society they were warriors of the Great Horde called Cossacks or Horde. They could only fight and train but were forbidden to work. Monasteries were built all over the world for only two reasons. To accommodate the retired Cossacks who for many reasons could not return to their homes and to control the colonies of the Horde. Of course churches were built inside the monasteries because before 17 century all the Cossacks were Orthodox Christians. Serbs must dominated on the Balkans called The Great Princedom of Bulgaria at the time. All peoples here were called Bulgars i.e. people from Volga (Belga = White). So there’s nothing strange that Serbian defensive monasteries were built in every place. Besides there were no nations at the time. Ethnical groups were receiving names after their military commanders or geographic places. Not all who were called Serbs were of the same origin and so were the Albanians. They just had joint commander. Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

Try not paying your taxes, friend!
See how your "ownership" thing works out for you...
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 01:28)

If you don't pay your taxes or debt, you become delinquent on your debt or taxes and the creditor (the bank, another person, the government) can try to garnish your wages, find your bank accounts or your other assets and can seize them after having secured a court judgement. But until that happens, you are the onwer of those assets. So what's your point?

According to your logic, Serbia's creditors own Serbia because there is a chance that Serbia may not pay its debt! You have a very weird concept of ownership, dear!

You still did not answer my question whether you are sure that there are no individual land owners in Serbia. Does the cadastral registry of Serbia shows Serbia as being the owner of all lots on land in Serbia?!

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries? Who build that mosque in Belgrade? Does that mean that Turkey should be taking over Serbia again?


@LOL: "As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo."

Than why is not the Serbian army in N Kosovo? Why does this Serbian minister have to sneak in through the woods to go there? Even without having control on the ground, Kosova doesn't have to move a finger to keep the border where it is, much to the chagrin of Serbia. You can play all the theater you want - it won't matter. Who doesn't understands why that is, has no idea of the forces at play.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- well, u had brought up your grandfather and his history , not me! I agree with u, the land belongs to that country, not the owner! Try not paying taxes, see who comes to beat you over the head with threats of taking the land back... That is true pretty much everywhere. Anyways, nice talking to you and my wish most sincere is that the politicians can come to an agreement that works for all! My final point is that if both side feel slighted, but agree to a settlement, there is an opportunity for stability... If only one side feels slighted, that's a festering wound waiting for some ambitious politician to exploit! My opinion ! Take care!

rote

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

BigKar : Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East?

I don’t know who exactly built this or that site but everything you mention or mean has been built under the Great Horde and was property of theirs. In history of J.Scaliger that we use today the Horde was divided into the Roman and the Mongol Empires. But all 3 were one empire that appeared in early 14 and ended in the fall of 16 century. It was the empire of the Early Christioans aka the Pagans in 14 century and the empire of the Apostolic Christians in 15-16 centuries. In both cases it was empire of the Rurikovici Dynasty to which most likely the Nemanici also belonged. So it’s always strange to hear whom did the monasteries or Vatican or America or Arctic or Japan belong. Everything was property of the Rurikovici. No matter who exactly has constructed or melt or harvested something. Besides there were no nations before 17 century so our disputes are close to nonsense. In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigkar- ok, I hear you!
However, you must understand, their are battle hardened twisted idiots in Serbia that are pissing in their pants with anticipation to engage battle hardened twisted idiots in your Kosova!
you teach your kids to pull triggers, I will teach mine to use computers and read charts! Good luck to you, Sir and I'll pray for the kids!

rote

pre 7 godina

BigKar

Your problem is that people always prepare for the already passed war and you behave as if you enjoyed a military victory. We all remember how fast the Whites evacuated from our lands and we've never seen you in a survival war to justify the proud Rus name of the Albanians. At least for the last 200-300 years. Make peace with the Serbs or get ready to fight the Russians ad hoq. Europe won't move a finger you know. Ask Allah that Putin sends no Chechens there because they will kill all males including children. Just the way they did in war 080808.

From Russia with love!

icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?
(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 23:27)

I've not heard the Albanian government demanding any "greater Albania" because of the existence of some Albanian kingdom in the past all those territories once belonged to.

But if the Albanian government demands that, I agree with you that that would be as idiotic as the Serbian government claiming Kosovo or the Italian government claiming most of Europe because of what the territories of some defunct kingdom were in the past.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ icj1 - unless you're also bigKar, the point I was making foes not apply to u! Bigkar stated this great grandfather, or to that effect, owned property and the family has been there to date... My point is even though his family has been there a very, very long time, it doesn't make it Albanian land! At end od day, it is Serb land and country! This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!

rote

pre 7 godina

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
(Please, No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:19)

At least I don't hide myself and I am open to respond any wuestion. Write it on your nose that Ahmed III was the first Sultan burried according to Sharia in 1703 i.e. in 18 century ! All previous were Orthodox Christians including Mehmet II (Prophet Mohammad) whose Quran and Bible means the same - READING and was known here as ВТОРОЕ ПИСАНИЕ. So was Soliman Selimovic (Suleiman Qanuni). Also the only language you could use in the High Court of Constantinople was SLOVENSKI (Church Serbian) = the official language of the Great Horde.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_III

rote

pre 7 godina

The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.
(Please No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:13)

Sooner or later someone else will be telling you similar things. Then you may ask yoursel which of us were idiots. I already know the answer so my task is only to make you doubt the comfortable stories you have been supplied with. When i receive 12 poor comments against 2 likes i am happy because it meants that 2 of you already began to think.

Sooner or later you will wonder how come that pyramids are all over the world and there are Cathar/Bulgar/Bogomil crosses (with a ring) inside. How come that on old icons of Jesus cannons were painted while the Savior looks rather Slavic than Jewish and Jordan River is hundreds meters wide. How come that hundreds of Slavic and Turkic toponymals and ethnonimals can be found all over the world. How come that about 35 countries of today were once called India ... or how come that the famous Mahabharata and Chinese sources describes episodes of the European history including Mediterranean ect. ect. How come that Thailand was called New Judea before 18 century or why many peoples do not accept the names they had been sticked to ... How come that parents gave their first son name like PROPHET CRUSSIFIED (JESUS CHRIST) ect.

icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 23:32)

No dear, what you wrote is NOT true all around the world!

In the country where I live, the real estate registry shows me as being the owner of my land, not the country.

And the same is the case in Serbia. For example, the real estate registry in Serbia shows that a certain Slobodan is the owner of this 2122 M2 of land in Jagodina http://katastar.rgz.gov.rs/KnWebPublic/NepokretnostProperties.aspx?nepID=dfbJfSVBHxQMQGIpe4ad2A== not Serbia.

So you are dead wrong, dear and you have no clue at all what you're talking about.

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???"


Its called Kosova and its not a part of serbia(serbia occupied it in 1912).
its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian. Its albanian territory and albanian land. We have the right to ban serbs from Kosova if we want to. Kosova has its own government, own laws and own rules. And it has been albanian majority in a long time. Saying "kosovo is serbia" will not change the fact that serbia has zero control over Kosova and its inhabitants.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Serbian people banned from entering Serbia???

Kosovo was and will always be Serbia! The USA, England and Germany wanting to create a new Islamic state in the heart of the Balkans and all traces of Eastern Orthodox Christianity being erased in Srpsko Kosovo! Now Serbian people need permission from Albanian Islamic terrorist to enter Serbian Kosovo! How much longer will this illegal occupation of Serbian Holy land Kosovo by the USA, England and Germany continue???

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from

BigKar

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has. Do you even realize how childish his little adventures are? He asks for permission to enter, Kosova govt denies it, then he sneaks in through the forest, snaps a few pics at some mafioso gas station, and declares victory as if has done something extraordinarily heroic. Here you have an entire ministry of the Serbian govt, whose only purpose in life is to stage clownish games, yet they don't even manage to piss off the other side; have you ever heard of anyone in the Kosova govt. losing their job because Djuric sneaked in without permission?
Now, if Serbia wants their moneys worth from this ministry, he should try for example to go and open that gas station in Gjakova. But he knows that it will be burned down immediately with Djuric tied to the pump.

sj

pre 7 godina

ZZZZZZZZ are these dumb Albos ever going to wake up????? LOL. How many times have we read this before???? and what has happened? Dumb, Dumbs have done absolutely NOTHING about it and backed won over and over again LOL. Is there any wonder the west thinks these bozos are only worthy as cannon fodder???? That's why the west has never cleaned up the depleted uranium.

Bahri

pre 7 godina

Djuric cross the Kosovo border hide in the Ambulance he maske him self with a bandates hahahaha what a joke serbs politics are. Whole world are going to leaugufe with him.

Revolution

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, you guys have to make up your minds whether we are "terrorists" or "young europeans"? Because in our free country, we don't much care of what the old butchers think.

You want to talk seriously? We've been talking seriously all the way back to Rambouillet, all we've heard from you are silly slogans. Tell us what the eff is that you want from Albanians?


@ari, yeah, we're going to continue making fools of ourselves, if you don't mind. We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.

sj

pre 7 godina

sj, blla blla blla
he needs a permition to enter Republic of Kosovo, or use ilegal ways, and thats it.
so not sure whats your point is.
(Revolution, 15 December 2016 12:34)


The point is that your Albos have big mouths, but regularly get told to shut them LOL. How many times has this same scenario occurred?????? I have lost count

LOL

pre 7 godina

I suppose "banning" Djuric is the only thing these Albanians can do since they couldn't ban three petrol stations from being opened in northern Kosovo. So they open without his presence and. Typical action from a people with starved egos.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@watcher, who took your land? My grandfather has owned the land where I live, and before him his grandfather, and his grandfather before him, as far as anyone can remember in the family. And so on with every other kosovar family. Enough with propaganda and slogans. If you want to go back spinning propaganda, please do, I won't follow you there.

We won't go anywhere, independence is a done deal, whether you can accept it or not. I'm not afraid to spill my blood, neither to teach my kids to spill their blood when their time comes to defend their country. We fought you when we had no chance in hell, what makes you think we won't do it again.

If you want to talk seriously and come to an amicable neighborly arrangement, sure, why not. What is that you want again? Going back under Serbia is not an option. You can off course go back and wait for better geopolitical situation, and we'll be ready for you whenever you want to attack.

The only deal I see, is exchange Presheva Valley for N Kosova. You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.

And if you dont want that, then let's go back and watch the entertainment provided for free by clown Djuric.

rote

pre 7 godina

ILLIRIAN The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo.

It once was Russian land but now it's Serbian.
You cannot legalize it unless Serbs say so.
We'll be back when time comes to restore the soveregnity.
I personally believe there must a chare for the Whites too.

Avni

pre 7 godina

Question is "how did he arrive in Kosovo"? Arriving in Kosovo like a Syrian refugee is not good for Djuric. I guess now that Kosovo got +383 he can't afford to make phone calls from Belgrade.

zxcvbnm

pre 7 godina

"If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo."

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

The provincial institutions in Pristina have two choices: 1.) continue making fools out of themselves or 2.) work with their country Serbia on improving living standards for Albanians and Serbs of the province. Serbs aren't going anywhere. A resettlement project on the model Israeli projects in the West Bank are already underway in Northern Kosovo. Serbs south of the Ibar have a higher birth rate than Serbs anywhere else. Geopolitical changes in the world are not favoring the separatists. Serbia's economy is growing, might be top 5 this year and top 2 next year in all of Europe. Serbia's position will continue to strengthen and you will not be able to avoid Serbia. Grow up and start negotiating peaceful reintegration and high autonomy so that your people can stop leaving Kosovo-Metohija on the mass scale that we've seen since 2015.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

Juric crossed Kosoves border in the Ambulance maske him self with a bandates thats how he when to kosvo elegaly.
(Bahri, 15 December 2016 19:01)

Did that really happen? That's kind of funny if its true, but even funnier is Isa Mustafa. The supposed "prime minister of kosovo" was hiding under a blanket in the trunk of a car escorted by KFOR to northern Kosovo-Metohija. Some country, some independence.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Nobody in Kosova gives a sh!t, sj, for the little games that Djuric plays; nobody ever has.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 16:16)

If that were the case, not only would the Kosovo government not try to ban him every time he did something that pissed them off, but you wouldn't feel the need to rant and rave about it on the Internet. But Albanians are people who love to go ballistic whenever their over hyped sense of pride is challenged. Thanks for disproving your own point :)

LOL

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

No you can't. You have to get a real country to support you on everything. Even a regional calling code. Don't flex nuts you know you never had, kid. You only look like an impotent nationalist.

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

its 93% Albanian and only 1% serbian.

zxcvbnm

If you go back 50-60 years in history there were as many serbs as there were albaninas in Kosovo. If you go back even further serbs were in majority. A hight birthrate doesen't doesn't give you the right to claim a territory. Why don't you look to Kosovos history? Serbs have their monasteries and churches from the 13th centrury. What do you have?

Ilyrian

pre 7 godina

Rightoubilly don't speak out of your ass . In less you're lecturing young serbs, because that's what you do in Serbia ... we don't buy that BS , we speak facts and history . Kosova was always Albanians "Dardans" majority of the churches and monasteries were also ours ,so enough with the false propaganda

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Dear B92, any chance of some hard facts for this story? Has he indeed been banned, when, by whom, what reason has been officially given by the Kosovo Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Comments from Djuric perhaps, official response of the Serbian Government? Simply citing another media outlet as having said one thing or another is very poor journalism. Establish some facts of your own and then let us have them. My fellow posters on this site are currently arguing over nothing.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- actually it's the Albanians that need to make up their minds on what they want to be. I would safely bet you are a minority in the way you're looking to deal with this issue! You cannot just tell Beograd" our friends beat you up, took your land and gave it to us and now it is ours". Obviously you will default to saying it was always yours and so on, but whichever way you look at it, that's not how it works! That is why Kosovo will always be a question mark in world politics and receptive to change of hands! I believe you know how foolish it would be to think Kosovo will alwAys be a powder keg. The "friends of Kosovo" will not always be available or around! That is why I keep talking about the winds of change are here and it won't be pretty for Srbs or Albanians!
More than autonomy, less than independence is the only solution! Jaw-jaw until it's figured out! Our children's blood depends on it!
* also, please stop with the foul language.. No one is cussing at you.
Thanks for hearing me out.

Navi

pre 7 godina

We've got our country, we can do whatever we want, you can go eat sh!t if you don't like it.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 20:24)

"Europe's Youngest Democrats".

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"The holly land for serbia is Russia , not Kosovo. Kosova belongs to Kosovar Albanians , given to them by God . The west only help them because they know exactly how it's supposed to be . If you want to live there you have to respect the law of the land like everybody else , if not go back to where you came from
(Ilyrian,"

You Albanians can claim your holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century. From medieval churches, cities to modern everything was built by Serbs. Albanians came to KosMet in greater numbers only in 1690 during Ottoman reighn. Albanians also settled themdelves in central Serbia and in Bulgaria. They were expelled from Serbia and Bulagria in 20th century as Germans were after ww2 from Czechoslovakia.
As far being law abiding citizen, you are the last to speak. You were not respecting law and you were attacking police. Same thing for you now, hypocrits.

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Albanians were a majority 50-60 years ago as well. When serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 the majority of the inhabitants were Albanians back then.

zxcvbnm

If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there? I doubt it was the albanians because they tried to burn them all down

icj1

pre 7 godina

Albanians can claim holy land in Caucasus. Kosovo and Metohija was settled by Serbs in 7th century.
(RighteousBilly, 16 December 2016 07:40)

So Serbs were settled in Kosovo, as well, like the Albanians. So, yes, you are right, Serbs, like the Albanians, can claim their holy land somewhere else, but not in Kosovo and Metohija.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigKar - sadly, this is probably true, it would be burned down with him tied to it. My mind is just boggled that that would happen in a society that claims to be "young Europeans" and the most "tolerent" of it's minorities...I understand the wounds of war are still open, but you don't see or hear about "Americans" or "westeners" being intimidated or "burned" in Beograd even with the city being bombed by them? Time to talk seriously, people, time to talk!!!! Winds of change are here...

LOL

pre 7 godina

You wont be able to get N Kosova alone, if you haven't figured that out already.
(BigKar, 15 December 2016 23:19)

As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo. But feel free to spill your childrens' blood for your pride. I just hope you get their permission before you throw them to the wolves. Such savages you are to consider your children cannon fodder. A shame you think so little of your own, but life must be cheap where you were born. Keep flexing them nuts of yours

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it? U would teach your kids to fight? Teach them to talk and be fair so they won't have to fight! I don't believe that u believe what happened in Kosovo would happen again... There is no political appetite from the west to take on Putin in his backyard! Those days are long gone..time to talk! I agree, You sould not be under Serbia, but neither should there be independence! Time to hammer out a deal that will satisfy neither, yet the children will live.. From both sides!
Thanks for the response!

Joni

pre 7 godina

(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 13:29)

The same question: what was doing Hilandar monastery in middle of Greeks? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilandar

Question: What was doing these monasteries and Churches in middle of Albanians?

Question: Why Turks did not destroyed the Orthodox churches in none of the Orthodox countries?
Why none of the Orthodox countries, even Armenia, which share borders with Turks, were not forced to change the religion?

Question: Why there did not survive a single old Catholic Church in Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Macedonia, Greece? There lived a lot of Catholic population?

There are just the Orthodox Churches there because were the only one which Turks did not destroyed, is simple! In Bosnia you will find one old Mosque next to the Orthodox church!
All you know well why those Orthodox Churches survived, and why are in middle of Albanians, because once upon a time there lived even Albanian Orthodox.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries? Who build that mosque in Belgrade? Does that mean that Turkey should be taking over Serbia again?


@LOL: "As you can see from the article and by your wounded ego, they already have northern Kosovo."

Than why is not the Serbian army in N Kosovo? Why does this Serbian minister have to sneak in through the woods to go there? Even without having control on the ground, Kosova doesn't have to move a finger to keep the border where it is, much to the chagrin of Serbia. You can play all the theater you want - it won't matter. Who doesn't understands why that is, has no idea of the forces at play.

rote

pre 7 godina

BigKar

Your problem is that people always prepare for the already passed war and you behave as if you enjoyed a military victory. We all remember how fast the Whites evacuated from our lands and we've never seen you in a survival war to justify the proud Rus name of the Albanians. At least for the last 200-300 years. Make peace with the Serbs or get ready to fight the Russians ad hoq. Europe won't move a finger you know. Ask Allah that Putin sends no Chechens there because they will kill all males including children. Just the way they did in war 080808.

From Russia with love!

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni

Before mid-16 century the Catholics were part of the Orthodox like all other churches that existed at the time. Serbs were a sort of Rus people. And in the times of the caste society they were warriors of the Great Horde called Cossacks or Horde. They could only fight and train but were forbidden to work. Monasteries were built all over the world for only two reasons. To accommodate the retired Cossacks who for many reasons could not return to their homes and to control the colonies of the Horde. Of course churches were built inside the monasteries because before 17 century all the Cossacks were Orthodox Christians. Serbs must dominated on the Balkans called The Great Princedom of Bulgaria at the time. All peoples here were called Bulgars i.e. people from Volga (Belga = White). So there’s nothing strange that Serbian defensive monasteries were built in every place. Besides there were no nations at the time. Ethnical groups were receiving names after their military commanders or geographic places. Not all who were called Serbs were of the same origin and so were the Albanians. They just had joint commander. Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.

icj1

pre 7 godina

there is an Alb family in my Vojvodina village , they own a pekara and a lot of land. Does this mean that land is not Srbian because an Alb owns it?
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 05:57)

No, it does not mean that. That's idiotic because a lot of land does not have ethnicity. That lot of land is neither Serbian nor Albanian - the owner of the lot may be Serbian or Albanian.

That lot of land is simply owned by the person that the cadastral registry shows as the owner of that lot of land. Is that simple...

rote

pre 7 godina

@Hank: "If Serbia occupied Kosovo in 1912 who built all the othodox monasteries from the middle ages there?"

BigKar : Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East?

I don’t know who exactly built this or that site but everything you mention or mean has been built under the Great Horde and was property of theirs. In history of J.Scaliger that we use today the Horde was divided into the Roman and the Mongol Empires. But all 3 were one empire that appeared in early 14 and ended in the fall of 16 century. It was the empire of the Early Christioans aka the Pagans in 14 century and the empire of the Apostolic Christians in 15-16 centuries. In both cases it was empire of the Rurikovici Dynasty to which most likely the Nemanici also belonged. So it’s always strange to hear whom did the monasteries or Vatican or America or Arctic or Japan belong. Everything was property of the Rurikovici. No matter who exactly has constructed or melt or harvested something. Besides there were no nations before 17 century so our disputes are close to nonsense. In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.

icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




icj1

pre 7 godina

Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?
(Hank the Tank, 16 December 2016 23:27)

I've not heard the Albanian government demanding any "greater Albania" because of the existence of some Albanian kingdom in the past all those territories once belonged to.

But if the Albanian government demands that, I agree with you that that would be as idiotic as the Serbian government claiming Kosovo or the Italian government claiming most of Europe because of what the territories of some defunct kingdom were in the past.

BigKar

pre 7 godina

@Watcher, I have no time for silly arguments. Nobody ever said that Vojvodina is Albanian.

I will teach my kids what my parents taught me: No man deserves to have a country unless he's willing to die and kill for it. I left Kosova as a 5 year old and returned when it was time to fight and don't regret any of the wounds I have on my body. When their time is to defend their land, they too will stand up and give their lives for their country. If you don't your kids to die, don't send them to enslave my kids.

Kosova is no Putin's backyard, it has never been. The 90s are over, if the Serbian army thinks it will stroll in, they will be gravely mistaken. You have no idea of the arsenal amassed here in these 17 years. We'll be waiting for you.

If you want to pretend to talk, we'll pretend to talk, but it will be as useless as any pretend talk up until now. Unless Serbs accept these two facts: 1. Albanians are not Serbs, and 2. As such, they have no place in a country of Serbs and for Serbs; there's nothing really of substance to talk about.

Hank the Tank

pre 7 godina

Who built all the Roman amphitheaters and monuments all over Europe and Middle East? Does that mean that Italy can now claim the whole of Europe and Mediterranean countries?

BigKar

if you think Serbia shoul stop its demands to regain control of Kosovo for the reasons you mentioned why don't albanians stop demanding territory in neighbouring countries for the sake of "recreating natural Albania". Lets say for arguments sake that all these territoriets once belongef to the albanian kingdom. That was then! If romans can't claim most of Europe and serbs can't claim Kosovo why do you continue to demand greater Albania?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

icj1, the CB of B92, considers many things "weird". Even though most economists recognize that the term "GDP" may be associated with a numeric value, icj1 idiotically labels such convention as "weird". Our resident bigot, icj1, is truly "weird" since icj1 has diagnosed themselves as a nihilist. "Weird" is applicable to all of icj1's comments, since icj1 is the only weird person to associate an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Yes dear readers, idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define our "weird" icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot




icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

Try not paying your taxes, friend!
See how your "ownership" thing works out for you...
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 01:28)

If you don't pay your taxes or debt, you become delinquent on your debt or taxes and the creditor (the bank, another person, the government) can try to garnish your wages, find your bank accounts or your other assets and can seize them after having secured a court judgement. But until that happens, you are the onwer of those assets. So what's your point?

According to your logic, Serbia's creditors own Serbia because there is a chance that Serbia may not pay its debt! You have a very weird concept of ownership, dear!

You still did not answer my question whether you are sure that there are no individual land owners in Serbia. Does the cadastral registry of Serbia shows Serbia as being the owner of all lots on land in Serbia?!

rote

pre 7 godina

The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.
(Please No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:13)

Sooner or later someone else will be telling you similar things. Then you may ask yoursel which of us were idiots. I already know the answer so my task is only to make you doubt the comfortable stories you have been supplied with. When i receive 12 poor comments against 2 likes i am happy because it meants that 2 of you already began to think.

Sooner or later you will wonder how come that pyramids are all over the world and there are Cathar/Bulgar/Bogomil crosses (with a ring) inside. How come that on old icons of Jesus cannons were painted while the Savior looks rather Slavic than Jewish and Jordan River is hundreds meters wide. How come that hundreds of Slavic and Turkic toponymals and ethnonimals can be found all over the world. How come that about 35 countries of today were once called India ... or how come that the famous Mahabharata and Chinese sources describes episodes of the European history including Mediterranean ect. ect. How come that Thailand was called New Judea before 18 century or why many peoples do not accept the names they had been sticked to ... How come that parents gave their first son name like PROPHET CRUSSIFIED (JESUS CHRIST) ect.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@bigkar- well, u had brought up your grandfather and his history , not me! I agree with u, the land belongs to that country, not the owner! Try not paying taxes, see who comes to beat you over the head with threats of taking the land back... That is true pretty much everywhere. Anyways, nice talking to you and my wish most sincere is that the politicians can come to an agreement that works for all! My final point is that if both side feel slighted, but agree to a settlement, there is an opportunity for stability... If only one side feels slighted, that's a festering wound waiting for some ambitious politician to exploit! My opinion ! Take care!

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ bigkar- ok, I hear you!
However, you must understand, their are battle hardened twisted idiots in Serbia that are pissing in their pants with anticipation to engage battle hardened twisted idiots in your Kosova!
you teach your kids to pull triggers, I will teach mine to use computers and read charts! Good luck to you, Sir and I'll pray for the kids!

Please, No B.S.

pre 7 godina

Turks were Orthodox before 17 century. The Sultans were Rus Princes Tverskie and their descendants still have pure Russian happlogroups. But even in 18 century the kept praying in the St. Sophia Church in their Topkapi temple. That’s why most Christian treasuries has survived during the Ottomans.
(rote, 16 December 2016 22:02)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.

rote

pre 7 godina

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
(Please, No B.S., 17 December 2016 23:19)

At least I don't hide myself and I am open to respond any wuestion. Write it on your nose that Ahmed III was the first Sultan burried according to Sharia in 1703 i.e. in 18 century ! All previous were Orthodox Christians including Mehmet II (Prophet Mohammad) whose Quran and Bible means the same - READING and was known here as ВТОРОЕ ПИСАНИЕ. So was Soliman Selimovic (Suleiman Qanuni). Also the only language you could use in the High Court of Constantinople was SLOVENSKI (Church Serbian) = the official language of the Great Horde.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_III

icj1

pre 7 godina

the land belongs to that country, not the owner!
(Watcher, 16 December 2016 17:43)

Woow, Serbia must be a weird country based on your comment above. First time I hear that no person in Serbia is an owner of any lot of land! Are you sure there are no individual land owners in Serbia?!
(icj1, 17 December 2016 00:19)

This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!
(Watcher, 17 December 2016 23:32)

No dear, what you wrote is NOT true all around the world!

In the country where I live, the real estate registry shows me as being the owner of my land, not the country.

And the same is the case in Serbia. For example, the real estate registry in Serbia shows that a certain Slobodan is the owner of this 2122 M2 of land in Jagodina http://katastar.rgz.gov.rs/KnWebPublic/NepokretnostProperties.aspx?nepID=dfbJfSVBHxQMQGIpe4ad2A== not Serbia.

So you are dead wrong, dear and you have no clue at all what you're talking about.

Please No B.S.

pre 7 godina

In 1380 Great Khan/Kniaz Dmitry Ivanovic (White Horde) of the ruling dynasty won the Kulikovo battle against the pagans (Golden Horde) of the same dynasty and returned the capitol back to Tsar Grad calling it Constantinople in his own honor. But after 9 years he was killed on Kosovo Polje as Murad I … So next time you divide Kosovo monasteries and churches please add Russia to the list.
(rote, 16 December 2016 20:52)

Fake History like Fake News only dupes idiots, you know who you are.
The rest of us are laughing at you, rote.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@ icj1 - unless you're also bigKar, the point I was making foes not apply to u! Bigkar stated this great grandfather, or to that effect, owned property and the family has been there to date... My point is even though his family has been there a very, very long time, it doesn't make it Albanian land! At end od day, it is Serb land and country! This is true all around the world, not only Serbia!