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Wednesday, 07.12.2016.

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"Syrian civil war is over; U.S. should reach out to Russia"

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, the civil war in Syria is "over" - and it is now time "to stop the fighting."

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icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1, 12 December 2016 15:36)

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot
(Leonidas, 13 December 2016 13:27)

What's clear to me is that you learned a lot of basic math by reading my comments lol As far as how you name people, that is your business, not mine!

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.

JS

pre 7 godina

"Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians."

Rather than recognizing the range of possibilities, my critique of angry Serb nationalism was automatically spun into moral support for Albanians. You often make extreme claims, and these type of statements are usually motivated by anger. Anger does not help you or I. None of us can come free of anger until we make peace with God, by confessing our sins and trusting in Jesus Christ.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1,

One of the most nonsensical postings that I have come across on this site.It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.Since your analogy implies to income and debt of the US one can obviously see that you haven't got a clue of what those percentages are.Let me enlighten you.The US treasury collects only 56 cents in revenue for every $ it spends and the balance is through borrowing.Currently with the public debt now topping $20 trillion, the implicit (and fraudulent)debt service relief from current ultra-low interest rates amounts to upwards of$500 billion per year.
Let's not forget unfunded liabilities of at least $130 trillion ($1,260,000 per taxpayer) and growing at $7 trillion a year ($70,000 per taxpayer per year).Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff has unfunded liabilities at $244 trillion today.Do you get the picture? I am sure you don't and if i were you i would stick to my colouring books and leave the above to people that understand.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not?

Of you're not Albanian.Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians.

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

In my posts below I outlined facts relating to the article which you've failed to acknowledge and comment upon and instead you chose to proceed with personal characterizations ie being hateful of Americans and Albanians.There is a clear distinction between the actions of the US government and ordinary American folk.In fact i know Americans that despise their own government.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not? Or was 'Albanian' codeword for several expletives?

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

(JS,
You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Your response shows that it's you and your fellow Albanians on this site that are brainwashed and never consider the actual facts on the ground.What i posted below are facts not thoughts.


Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

The people i am condemning which your kind support are killers with rivers of blood on their hands.I have never supported the idea of invading a foreign country to change its government.If you do not support such actions then you should come out publicly and condemn your fellow Albanians for going to Syria and Iraq as religious mercenaries to participate in the slaughter of the people of those countries.

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

"I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is...[expletive expletive expletive ad infinitum]"

You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
When the United States military succeeds in an operation,

Can you name an invasion or an “operation” as you call it the US completed successfully?

As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece

I don’t get your point but if you imply the Russian operations in Syria the big difference that even idiots can understand is Russia didn’t invade Syria but was invited by the elected government of the country to help against the Turkish, Saudi, Qatari ,Arab and Albanian insurgents.

Your prophecy the imminent collapse of the United States economy,

Let me mention to you few facts. In 1975 the US was the world's largest creditor and accounted for something like 60% of world GDP. Today, even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt, while appetite for the dollar is clearly dropping-even your friend Erdogan has decided to contact Turkey’s export dealings with other countries into local currencies thus abandoning the $.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil,

I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is a bloated shit-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their money overloards. That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chiefs "Wednesday" panties.

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote [link] that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1
So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39)

Both
(sj, 8 December 2016 23:08)

But the CE of B92 forums sj does not agree with you because he/she wrote that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1. So feel free to discuss it with the CE of B92 forums sj and sort it out lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39) #

Both, as they still declare icj1 an idiot LOL.

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas, Joe A, rote, Paul, Amnesty Yugoslavia & sj

Your posts are but several different ways of saying the same thing: 'I hate America!' And the tone implies that you do not believe you suffer from similar moral deficiencies.

When the United States military succeeds in an operation, you rail against their overwhelming (ie. evil) military power. As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece that rivals the equipment the US military is employing, you prophecy the imminent collapse of the US military and the United States economy, and expect Russia to replace the US as the world superpower.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil, then Russia will become that 'evil beast' when they (supposedly) achieve supremacy. But if Russia would achieve world dominance, I'm sure you would all be clapping your hands and celebrating. So you don't believe what you're saying. You don't really care what is right and wrong, you just happen to be on the losing end of the stick and your posts mostly consist of shouting and cursing at those who are more powerful than you. So, at the end of the day, the thing you fault America for, is the very god you worship.

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=99803#k470817 that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 00:38)

W@hat do we say to our resident halfwit?

What has icj1 been saying ad nauseam? “Since sj is the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct we must adhere to his/her teachings. Therefore, when he commands all should obey………. “Only a brilliant economist like the CE of B92 forums …
Therefore, as icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant then sj declares icj1 to be an albanian idiot. We now have irrefutable proof of icj1 confirming that whatever sj writes is the truth, the conclusive evidence is that even icj1 agrees with sj’s statement that he/she is an idiot. Sj now commands that icj1 should wear a human billboard stating that its an idiot.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
----------

Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
----------

Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

icj1

pre 7 godina

The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
(sj, 7 December 2016 22:28)

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

I seriously doubt that the US will give up now. It will fight to the last man, not theirs of course, becasue the loss will be great and far reaching. Yes the US has lost and lost in a big way. The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
It means that Russia is the dominant partner of a group that can control the flow of oil in the Middle East and with Russia providing oil and gas to Europe their current grip will get even tighter on the EU and there is nothing the US can do about it.
Dont underestimate the reason Moscow joined in the war in Syria. It was not so much over a naval base, but to control the energy resources of that region. It has now won. Erdogan is now with Russia, but I still cant believe the level of US incompetence over the mishandling of that coup. Erdogan is a nasty piece of work but in one sweep he moved over to Moscow. Amazing.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Stability and peace in Syria are not in America's interest. Chaos and perpetual war were the objectives achieved, and are to be maintained in Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Yemen et al. Galbraith and the caliphate supporting war mongers in the imperial capital DC know it all too well. Peace in Syria... unlikely and unfortunate for the millions of innocent victims of American crimes.

Paul

pre 7 godina

Over twenty years of bad, misguided foreign policy in the US is rapidly unraveling. Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria. And thanks for helping to clean up the mess. Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.

rote

pre 7 godina

it's not a civil war but an invasion of some 90 states or citizens from 90 states and the war is very very far from an end. the us can only destroy states leaving peoples in disaster and poverty. they deploy 101 and 82 airborne divisions in mosul where their clintonial campaign has failed. they do everything to halt trump from establishing peace in the region. so the ambassador is either lying or he knows nothing about the situation. russia has lost another officer in aleppo yesterday. looks like the city is ours soon but the war is to last ...

William UK

pre 7 godina

Looks like the former YU is high on Putin's agenda but getting lower elsewhere so it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. Also interesting to note that Melania Trump, the soon to be first lady, has listed Serbian as one of the many languages she knows. Not Serbo-Croatian or Croatian, but Serbian.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 7 December 2016 14:08

That is why I used quotes around the word success
Cause it is questionable if it was a success. They consider it so but it got them high and then thought they could replicate it in MENA. That is a common mistake that has led to the fall of Empires.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

NATO's regime change machine (that Galbraith once was part of) ran into a brick wall in Syria. After their 'success' in Yugoslavia they thought they could replicate it everywhere. After initial success in Iraq, that situation completely backfired on them with a now installed Shia regime there and the rise of ISIS (because they did not include former Hoessein party people in the new regime). Afghanistan is a mess, Iraq more or less in the Shia camp, Libya a catastrophy, Egypt now siding with Syria, etc. Hundreds of thousands are dead, millions displaced, Europe flooded with migrants and ISIS terrorists, the West hated more than ever.
It is only a success for merchants of death, not for anybody else.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, the civil war in Syria is "over" - and it is now time "to stop the fighting."

Civil war is defined as a war between citizens of the same country and such a definition doesn't apply to Syria since the majority of those so called rebels were Turks,Chechnyans,Bosnians,Albanians,Arabs etc. who came to displace Syrians in Aleppo and are now running for the Turkish border with their tails between their legs.Assad with help from Russia and Iran is back and doing a good job in Syria. The US needs to understand it cannot decide who rules what in this world. The US will soon find out Yemen is too hard to conquer and need to prepare themselves for yet another failure which may in turn prepare the next war that will engulf Saudi Arabia.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

NATO's regime change machine (that Galbraith once was part of) ran into a brick wall in Syria. After their 'success' in Yugoslavia they thought they could replicate it everywhere. After initial success in Iraq, that situation completely backfired on them with a now installed Shia regime there and the rise of ISIS (because they did not include former Hoessein party people in the new regime). Afghanistan is a mess, Iraq more or less in the Shia camp, Libya a catastrophy, Egypt now siding with Syria, etc. Hundreds of thousands are dead, millions displaced, Europe flooded with migrants and ISIS terrorists, the West hated more than ever.
It is only a success for merchants of death, not for anybody else.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, the civil war in Syria is "over" - and it is now time "to stop the fighting."

Civil war is defined as a war between citizens of the same country and such a definition doesn't apply to Syria since the majority of those so called rebels were Turks,Chechnyans,Bosnians,Albanians,Arabs etc. who came to displace Syrians in Aleppo and are now running for the Turkish border with their tails between their legs.Assad with help from Russia and Iran is back and doing a good job in Syria. The US needs to understand it cannot decide who rules what in this world. The US will soon find out Yemen is too hard to conquer and need to prepare themselves for yet another failure which may in turn prepare the next war that will engulf Saudi Arabia.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Looks like the former YU is high on Putin's agenda but getting lower elsewhere so it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. Also interesting to note that Melania Trump, the soon to be first lady, has listed Serbian as one of the many languages she knows. Not Serbo-Croatian or Croatian, but Serbian.

Paul

pre 7 godina

Over twenty years of bad, misguided foreign policy in the US is rapidly unraveling. Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria. And thanks for helping to clean up the mess. Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.

sj

pre 7 godina

I seriously doubt that the US will give up now. It will fight to the last man, not theirs of course, becasue the loss will be great and far reaching. Yes the US has lost and lost in a big way. The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
It means that Russia is the dominant partner of a group that can control the flow of oil in the Middle East and with Russia providing oil and gas to Europe their current grip will get even tighter on the EU and there is nothing the US can do about it.
Dont underestimate the reason Moscow joined in the war in Syria. It was not so much over a naval base, but to control the energy resources of that region. It has now won. Erdogan is now with Russia, but I still cant believe the level of US incompetence over the mishandling of that coup. Erdogan is a nasty piece of work but in one sweep he moved over to Moscow. Amazing.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 7 December 2016 14:08

That is why I used quotes around the word success
Cause it is questionable if it was a success. They consider it so but it got them high and then thought they could replicate it in MENA. That is a common mistake that has led to the fall of Empires.

rote

pre 7 godina

it's not a civil war but an invasion of some 90 states or citizens from 90 states and the war is very very far from an end. the us can only destroy states leaving peoples in disaster and poverty. they deploy 101 and 82 airborne divisions in mosul where their clintonial campaign has failed. they do everything to halt trump from establishing peace in the region. so the ambassador is either lying or he knows nothing about the situation. russia has lost another officer in aleppo yesterday. looks like the city is ours soon but the war is to last ...

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Stability and peace in Syria are not in America's interest. Chaos and perpetual war were the objectives achieved, and are to be maintained in Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Yemen et al. Galbraith and the caliphate supporting war mongers in the imperial capital DC know it all too well. Peace in Syria... unlikely and unfortunate for the millions of innocent victims of American crimes.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
----------

Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

sj

pre 7 godina

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 00:38)

W@hat do we say to our resident halfwit?

What has icj1 been saying ad nauseam? “Since sj is the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct we must adhere to his/her teachings. Therefore, when he commands all should obey………. “Only a brilliant economist like the CE of B92 forums …
Therefore, as icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant then sj declares icj1 to be an albanian idiot. We now have irrefutable proof of icj1 confirming that whatever sj writes is the truth, the conclusive evidence is that even icj1 agrees with sj’s statement that he/she is an idiot. Sj now commands that icj1 should wear a human billboard stating that its an idiot.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
When the United States military succeeds in an operation,

Can you name an invasion or an “operation” as you call it the US completed successfully?

As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece

I don’t get your point but if you imply the Russian operations in Syria the big difference that even idiots can understand is Russia didn’t invade Syria but was invited by the elected government of the country to help against the Turkish, Saudi, Qatari ,Arab and Albanian insurgents.

Your prophecy the imminent collapse of the United States economy,

Let me mention to you few facts. In 1975 the US was the world's largest creditor and accounted for something like 60% of world GDP. Today, even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt, while appetite for the dollar is clearly dropping-even your friend Erdogan has decided to contact Turkey’s export dealings with other countries into local currencies thus abandoning the $.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil,

I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is a bloated shit-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their money overloards. That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chiefs "Wednesday" panties.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
(sj, 7 December 2016 22:28)

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
----------

Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=99803#k470817 that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39) #

Both, as they still declare icj1 an idiot LOL.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1,

One of the most nonsensical postings that I have come across on this site.It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.Since your analogy implies to income and debt of the US one can obviously see that you haven't got a clue of what those percentages are.Let me enlighten you.The US treasury collects only 56 cents in revenue for every $ it spends and the balance is through borrowing.Currently with the public debt now topping $20 trillion, the implicit (and fraudulent)debt service relief from current ultra-low interest rates amounts to upwards of$500 billion per year.
Let's not forget unfunded liabilities of at least $130 trillion ($1,260,000 per taxpayer) and growing at $7 trillion a year ($70,000 per taxpayer per year).Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff has unfunded liabilities at $244 trillion today.Do you get the picture? I am sure you don't and if i were you i would stick to my colouring books and leave the above to people that understand.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not?

Of you're not Albanian.Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians.

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

In my posts below I outlined facts relating to the article which you've failed to acknowledge and comment upon and instead you chose to proceed with personal characterizations ie being hateful of Americans and Albanians.There is a clear distinction between the actions of the US government and ordinary American folk.In fact i know Americans that despise their own government.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas, Joe A, rote, Paul, Amnesty Yugoslavia & sj

Your posts are but several different ways of saying the same thing: 'I hate America!' And the tone implies that you do not believe you suffer from similar moral deficiencies.

When the United States military succeeds in an operation, you rail against their overwhelming (ie. evil) military power. As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece that rivals the equipment the US military is employing, you prophecy the imminent collapse of the US military and the United States economy, and expect Russia to replace the US as the world superpower.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil, then Russia will become that 'evil beast' when they (supposedly) achieve supremacy. But if Russia would achieve world dominance, I'm sure you would all be clapping your hands and celebrating. So you don't believe what you're saying. You don't really care what is right and wrong, you just happen to be on the losing end of the stick and your posts mostly consist of shouting and cursing at those who are more powerful than you. So, at the end of the day, the thing you fault America for, is the very god you worship.

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote [link] that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1
So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39)

Both
(sj, 8 December 2016 23:08)

But the CE of B92 forums sj does not agree with you because he/she wrote that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1. So feel free to discuss it with the CE of B92 forums sj and sort it out lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

"I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is...[expletive expletive expletive ad infinitum]"

You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

(JS,
You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Your response shows that it's you and your fellow Albanians on this site that are brainwashed and never consider the actual facts on the ground.What i posted below are facts not thoughts.


Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

The people i am condemning which your kind support are killers with rivers of blood on their hands.I have never supported the idea of invading a foreign country to change its government.If you do not support such actions then you should come out publicly and condemn your fellow Albanians for going to Syria and Iraq as religious mercenaries to participate in the slaughter of the people of those countries.

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not? Or was 'Albanian' codeword for several expletives?

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol

JS

pre 7 godina

"Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians."

Rather than recognizing the range of possibilities, my critique of angry Serb nationalism was automatically spun into moral support for Albanians. You often make extreme claims, and these type of statements are usually motivated by anger. Anger does not help you or I. None of us can come free of anger until we make peace with God, by confessing our sins and trusting in Jesus Christ.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1, 12 December 2016 15:36)

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot
(Leonidas, 13 December 2016 13:27)

What's clear to me is that you learned a lot of basic math by reading my comments lol As far as how you name people, that is your business, not mine!

Joe A

pre 7 godina

NATO's regime change machine (that Galbraith once was part of) ran into a brick wall in Syria. After their 'success' in Yugoslavia they thought they could replicate it everywhere. After initial success in Iraq, that situation completely backfired on them with a now installed Shia regime there and the rise of ISIS (because they did not include former Hoessein party people in the new regime). Afghanistan is a mess, Iraq more or less in the Shia camp, Libya a catastrophy, Egypt now siding with Syria, etc. Hundreds of thousands are dead, millions displaced, Europe flooded with migrants and ISIS terrorists, the West hated more than ever.
It is only a success for merchants of death, not for anybody else.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, the civil war in Syria is "over" - and it is now time "to stop the fighting."

Civil war is defined as a war between citizens of the same country and such a definition doesn't apply to Syria since the majority of those so called rebels were Turks,Chechnyans,Bosnians,Albanians,Arabs etc. who came to displace Syrians in Aleppo and are now running for the Turkish border with their tails between their legs.Assad with help from Russia and Iran is back and doing a good job in Syria. The US needs to understand it cannot decide who rules what in this world. The US will soon find out Yemen is too hard to conquer and need to prepare themselves for yet another failure which may in turn prepare the next war that will engulf Saudi Arabia.

rote

pre 7 godina

it's not a civil war but an invasion of some 90 states or citizens from 90 states and the war is very very far from an end. the us can only destroy states leaving peoples in disaster and poverty. they deploy 101 and 82 airborne divisions in mosul where their clintonial campaign has failed. they do everything to halt trump from establishing peace in the region. so the ambassador is either lying or he knows nothing about the situation. russia has lost another officer in aleppo yesterday. looks like the city is ours soon but the war is to last ...

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
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Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

William UK

pre 7 godina

Looks like the former YU is high on Putin's agenda but getting lower elsewhere so it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years. Also interesting to note that Melania Trump, the soon to be first lady, has listed Serbian as one of the many languages she knows. Not Serbo-Croatian or Croatian, but Serbian.

Paul

pre 7 godina

Over twenty years of bad, misguided foreign policy in the US is rapidly unraveling. Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria. And thanks for helping to clean up the mess. Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
(sj, 7 December 2016 22:28)

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Stability and peace in Syria are not in America's interest. Chaos and perpetual war were the objectives achieved, and are to be maintained in Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Yemen et al. Galbraith and the caliphate supporting war mongers in the imperial capital DC know it all too well. Peace in Syria... unlikely and unfortunate for the millions of innocent victims of American crimes.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Congratulations to the Russian Federation and Putin's leadership for what looks to be a success in Syria.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Yup, great success in the form of wasted Russian blood and money! Or perhaps you meant great success for Assad?!
----------

Looking forward to further assistance in the Balkans.
(Paul, 7 December 2016 20:39)

Why, are there any other Russia's slavic brothers in the Balkans that are looking forward to assistance to be dismembered like Russia's Ukrainian brothers?

Joe A

pre 7 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic, 7 December 2016 14:08

That is why I used quotes around the word success
Cause it is questionable if it was a success. They consider it so but it got them high and then thought they could replicate it in MENA. That is a common mistake that has led to the fall of Empires.

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=99803#k470817 that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas, Joe A, rote, Paul, Amnesty Yugoslavia & sj

Your posts are but several different ways of saying the same thing: 'I hate America!' And the tone implies that you do not believe you suffer from similar moral deficiencies.

When the United States military succeeds in an operation, you rail against their overwhelming (ie. evil) military power. As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece that rivals the equipment the US military is employing, you prophecy the imminent collapse of the US military and the United States economy, and expect Russia to replace the US as the world superpower.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil, then Russia will become that 'evil beast' when they (supposedly) achieve supremacy. But if Russia would achieve world dominance, I'm sure you would all be clapping your hands and celebrating. So you don't believe what you're saying. You don't really care what is right and wrong, you just happen to be on the losing end of the stick and your posts mostly consist of shouting and cursing at those who are more powerful than you. So, at the end of the day, the thing you fault America for, is the very god you worship.

sj

pre 7 godina

I seriously doubt that the US will give up now. It will fight to the last man, not theirs of course, becasue the loss will be great and far reaching. Yes the US has lost and lost in a big way. The fall of Aleppo now means that there will be no pipeline from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. You have to understand that this pipeline has been in the planning by the US since the 1950s.
It means that Russia is the dominant partner of a group that can control the flow of oil in the Middle East and with Russia providing oil and gas to Europe their current grip will get even tighter on the EU and there is nothing the US can do about it.
Dont underestimate the reason Moscow joined in the war in Syria. It was not so much over a naval base, but to control the energy resources of that region. It has now won. Erdogan is now with Russia, but I still cant believe the level of US incompetence over the mishandling of that coup. Erdogan is a nasty piece of work but in one sweep he moved over to Moscow. Amazing.

icj1

pre 7 godina

icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant
(sj, 8 December 2016 12:46)

But the CE of B92 forums sj wrote [link] that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1
So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39)

Both
(sj, 8 December 2016 23:08)

But the CE of B92 forums sj does not agree with you because he/she wrote that "icj has declared sj to be brilliant", not icj1. So feel free to discuss it with the CE of B92 forums sj and sort it out lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.

sj

pre 7 godina

Of course, a time machine must immediately be invented for the US to go back to the 1950s and start the planning for the above mentioned pipeline, as comanded by the CE of B92 forums sj. The reality must always change (including retroactively) to match the commands of the CE of B92 forums sj!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 00:38)

W@hat do we say to our resident halfwit?

What has icj1 been saying ad nauseam? “Since sj is the CE of B92 forums sj is always correct we must adhere to his/her teachings. Therefore, when he commands all should obey………. “Only a brilliant economist like the CE of B92 forums …
Therefore, as icj1 has declared sj to be brilliant then sj declares icj1 to be an albanian idiot. We now have irrefutable proof of icj1 confirming that whatever sj writes is the truth, the conclusive evidence is that even icj1 agrees with sj’s statement that he/she is an idiot. Sj now commands that icj1 should wear a human billboard stating that its an idiot.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol

JS

pre 7 godina

"Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians."

Rather than recognizing the range of possibilities, my critique of angry Serb nationalism was automatically spun into moral support for Albanians. You often make extreme claims, and these type of statements are usually motivated by anger. Anger does not help you or I. None of us can come free of anger until we make peace with God, by confessing our sins and trusting in Jesus Christ.

icj1

pre 7 godina

even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt
(Leonidas, 9 December 2016 13:33)

And than what?! It is also the world largest economy...

Let me put it in simple terms that even you should be able to understand.

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1, 10 December 2016 01:18)

It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.
(Leonidas, 11 December 2016 11:15)

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1, 12 December 2016 15:36)

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot
(Leonidas, 13 December 2016 13:27)

What's clear to me is that you learned a lot of basic math by reading my comments lol As far as how you name people, that is your business, not mine!

sj

pre 7 godina

So, whom should we believe, you or the CE of B92 forums sj?! lol

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 December 2016 15:39) #

Both, as they still declare icj1 an idiot LOL.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
When the United States military succeeds in an operation,

Can you name an invasion or an “operation” as you call it the US completed successfully?

As soon as Russia acquires a single military piece

I don’t get your point but if you imply the Russian operations in Syria the big difference that even idiots can understand is Russia didn’t invade Syria but was invited by the elected government of the country to help against the Turkish, Saudi, Qatari ,Arab and Albanian insurgents.

Your prophecy the imminent collapse of the United States economy,

Let me mention to you few facts. In 1975 the US was the world's largest creditor and accounted for something like 60% of world GDP. Today, even with US creative GDP accounting that proportion is 20% and it is the world's largest debtor, accounting for something like 25% of the world's debt, while appetite for the dollar is clearly dropping-even your friend Erdogan has decided to contact Turkey’s export dealings with other countries into local currencies thus abandoning the $.

But if being the world superpower makes the United States evil,

I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is a bloated shit-hole of moral decay,with semi-functional morons holding positions of high power,catering to the whims of their money overloards. That stench you smell isn't the raw sewage being pumped into fracking holes,it's the smell of crap in your Commander and Chiefs "Wednesday" panties.

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

"I think the majority of people worldwide know the US is...[expletive expletive expletive ad infinitum]"

You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

(JS,
You illustrated my points more fully than I could have expected. It's disappointing that you cultivate such thoughts in your mind.

Your response shows that it's you and your fellow Albanians on this site that are brainwashed and never consider the actual facts on the ground.What i posted below are facts not thoughts.


Though I doubt you realize it, you're not much different than the people you are condemning. That's the point.

The people i am condemning which your kind support are killers with rivers of blood on their hands.I have never supported the idea of invading a foreign country to change its government.If you do not support such actions then you should come out publicly and condemn your fellow Albanians for going to Syria and Iraq as religious mercenaries to participate in the slaughter of the people of those countries.

JS

pre 7 godina

@ Leonidas

Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not? Or was 'Albanian' codeword for several expletives?

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Say I have a debt of 20 Euros and income of 10 Euros, whereas you have a debt of 40 Euros and income of 100 Euros.

Yes, your debt is twice as much as my debt, but still you are in a much better position than me because your debt is only 40% of your income, whereas my debt is 200% of my income.

Hopefully you get it now lol
(icj1,

One of the most nonsensical postings that I have come across on this site.It's pretty obvious if one's income is more than twice his debt his position will be much better than the one's the debt is double his income.Since your analogy implies to income and debt of the US one can obviously see that you haven't got a clue of what those percentages are.Let me enlighten you.The US treasury collects only 56 cents in revenue for every $ it spends and the balance is through borrowing.Currently with the public debt now topping $20 trillion, the implicit (and fraudulent)debt service relief from current ultra-low interest rates amounts to upwards of$500 billion per year.
Let's not forget unfunded liabilities of at least $130 trillion ($1,260,000 per taxpayer) and growing at $7 trillion a year ($70,000 per taxpayer per year).Professor Lawrence Kotlikoff has unfunded liabilities at $244 trillion today.Do you get the picture? I am sure you don't and if i were you i would stick to my colouring books and leave the above to people that understand.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

JS
Did you even consider asking if I am Albanian before accusing me of being something that I'm not?

Of you're not Albanian.Your only purpose in visiting a Serbian site is for moral support to Albanians.

Your rant can be summarized in three words: 'I hate Albanians!' In this thread, you have informed us that you hate Americans and Albanians. I would suggest a more thoughtful approach.

In my posts below I outlined facts relating to the article which you've failed to acknowledge and comment upon and instead you chose to proceed with personal characterizations ie being hateful of Americans and Albanians.There is a clear distinction between the actions of the US government and ordinary American folk.In fact i know Americans that despise their own government.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

Great, you got it! I'm so happy that I was finally able to contribute to your learning of basic math.
(icj1

It must be clear to you by know why you're named as the CI of this forum.

CI= Chief Idiot