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PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood"

Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader)
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:22)

Mate, just because you are a Serb-hater, does not mean that everybody who debates with you is a Serb hater like you!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal?
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Is that question directed to me?!

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

WRONG AGAIN!
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Then why did you change your writing from not guilty of "any charge" (njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08) to not guilty of "any war crime charge" (njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14) after I pointed out to you that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison?! If I'm wrong, than why do you change your writing based on my "wrong" statement?! :)

poor njegos... you've been reduced to the point of providing yourself the arguments about why your writings are ridiculous lol

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

This is exactly the point I was making to icj. If he/she and many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader) use previous Hague convictions of Serbs to be accurate and just, then you all must also agree that Seselj is not a war criminal. Right? Thanks for the help. And if you followed the trial, you must agree that the Hague did everything possible to try and convict Seselj, by detaining him for 12 years of his life only to come up empty in the end. And icj has the nerve to compare this trial to Gotovina's, who WAS convicted of war crimes, but the verdict was overturned by the slimmest of margins in only a year. Certainly not an accurate comparison, but then again what would you expect from a renowned Serb-hater like icj?

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "...after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison."

WRONG AGAIN! You never provided any indisputable evidence of anything other than your hateful anti-Serb writings that reveal your indisputable hatred of everything and anything Serb. Yet another lie from icj. I see a pattern here.

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal? Still waiting icj. Come on, spit it out. As I said before, the truth is good for your soul. HAHAHA!!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

---
icj1, the CB of B92, should indeed learn the facts before icj1, our resident bigot, posts more daily lies. A UN vetted and apprvoved Judge by the name of F. Harhoff provided a first- hand direct written account of corruption at the ICTY. Fact: convictions or acquittals at the ICTY are not based on evidence. Fact: convictions or acquittals were subject to the biased political influence of Meron.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.

I'm happy though that I contributed to make you a more knowledgeable person and that you finally took the correct step to address the lie in your original post after learning the facts. Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.

Reader

pre 7 godina

"the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge."
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree. Really curious, there may be hope after all. I haven't seen a single of our Serb friends here come out and say it. If you agree with those conclusions, then this Gotovina story should not be a problem.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"!"

So you are admitting that Seselj is not a war criminal, right? Come on icj, say it, it will be good for your soul. Try to bring your Serb-hating mind to accept the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge. Even though the media and the highly-paid Croat PR firms depicted him as guilty from day one. Show some character icj, admit it. HAHA!! I know it hurts. I'm sure you'll avoid the subject now as per usual and run away to another thread like the coward that you are.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".
(icj1, 22 November 2016 00:53)

Because you made a false claim again
(njegos, 22 November 2016 13:51)

I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"! You perhaps saw that in your dreams and are now confusing reality with your dreams hahaha

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

Mr. Junior

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

One of these days when some Cetnic has had enough of your Croat Nazi and Hitler worshiping bull sh*t, my advice to you would be that you run and don't look back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecoA_v0RC8

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty."

icj - Do you ever get tired of being wrong? The Hague took custody of Seselj after he voluntarily turned himself in in 2003. His court proceedings didn't start until late 2007. More than 4 years after being taken into custody. Conversely, Gotovina, who was arrested and didn't turn himself in, had his appeal heard within one year of his conviction. Very different indeed. And please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of. Please icj tell us what he was found guilty of after nearly 12 years in custody.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol
(icj1, 21 November 2016 14:55)

No you didn't. You wrote that Seselj was "included" in the Serbian parliament, implying his presence is there other than being elected. You tried to equate him being in parliament to Gotovina being appointed to a advisor position. You tried to equate two incompatible things and when I pointed out your flaw, you admitted it. I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand but you seem to have problems comprehending things.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Lenny the Loser: "I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along."

Hey Lenny Boy, I don't think your Ustasha family has anything to sing about these days, do they? Are they still roaming Zagreb's streets picking food out of garbage cans to survive? Too bad their former home is now Republica Srpska. Just think, they're not welcome in Croatia nor are they welcome in RS. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Keep singing Lenny!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!"

What message did Serbia send icj? Please explain. Seselj was never appointed to a governmental position in Serbia. And while you're comparing the two, Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference icj. Keep trying though, I'm sure there are a lot of similarities between the two in your simple little mind.

icj1

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold.
(LOL, 18 November 2016 19:28)

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol

Englishman

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia"

I'm glad he got the message: Gotovina is an innocent man who only defended his country. What other message can there be? Does Vucic think he is going to dictate who gets appointed to a position in Croatia? Him and his government need a reality check because they're heading for disaster with the games they keep trying to play.
Poor little serbia.

P.S. Now you can listen to Ari Gold ignore the facts and whine about me not really being an englishman because I said his name sounds Libyan.

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian government is full of those who stood with Sloba and his wars. That's why we don't trust Serbs. It's funny how they pretend to be holier than thou.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

No, we're not interested in listening to that stupid Nazi wannabe. He's all yours. However, it's a known fact Croats love to play Serbian music at their weddings because their own music sucks. It's also because you're secretly jealous of what you hate and know that your culture is little more than a bastardization of Serbian, Italian and Hungarian along with that Aryan Persian blood you think you have. Serbs don't even give Croats a moment's notice beyond what they deserve, and if they didn't act like a bunch of retarded Nazis, they'd get no attention at all. Thanks for the laugh mate. You're always good for a chuckle, what with that semi-literate semi-civilized mentality of yours, along with your incomprehensible English, which I'm certain is about as good as your Croatian, coming from that vukojebina Hercegovinian village of yours :)

Lenard

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKN67Upj7BU love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.

LOL

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold. The only way for this to be similar is if Vucic appointed Seselj a Ministry position, but since the SRS is not part of the governing coalition, he has no power.

Look at you trying to sound smart :)

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

To icy1,
Vucic or Serbia did not make him (Seselj) a minister in their cabinet or party )))
5% of the votes of population got Seselj into Parliament,not a " Minister of the Country",)))
You are a uneducated person )))
You a difficult person with special needs ,Lol

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

To icy1,
Vucic or Serbia did not make him (Seselj) a minister in their cabinet or party )))
5% of the votes of population got Seselj into Parliament,not a " Minister of the Country",)))
You are a uneducated person )))
You a difficult person with special needs ,Lol

LOL

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold. The only way for this to be similar is if Vucic appointed Seselj a Ministry position, but since the SRS is not part of the governing coalition, he has no power.

Look at you trying to sound smart :)

LOL

pre 7 godina

I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

No, we're not interested in listening to that stupid Nazi wannabe. He's all yours. However, it's a known fact Croats love to play Serbian music at their weddings because their own music sucks. It's also because you're secretly jealous of what you hate and know that your culture is little more than a bastardization of Serbian, Italian and Hungarian along with that Aryan Persian blood you think you have. Serbs don't even give Croats a moment's notice beyond what they deserve, and if they didn't act like a bunch of retarded Nazis, they'd get no attention at all. Thanks for the laugh mate. You're always good for a chuckle, what with that semi-literate semi-civilized mentality of yours, along with your incomprehensible English, which I'm certain is about as good as your Croatian, coming from that vukojebina Hercegovinian village of yours :)

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian government is full of those who stood with Sloba and his wars. That's why we don't trust Serbs. It's funny how they pretend to be holier than thou.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!

Lenard

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKN67Upj7BU love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.

Englishman

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia"

I'm glad he got the message: Gotovina is an innocent man who only defended his country. What other message can there be? Does Vucic think he is going to dictate who gets appointed to a position in Croatia? Him and his government need a reality check because they're heading for disaster with the games they keep trying to play.
Poor little serbia.

P.S. Now you can listen to Ari Gold ignore the facts and whine about me not really being an englishman because I said his name sounds Libyan.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Lenny the Loser: "I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along."

Hey Lenny Boy, I don't think your Ustasha family has anything to sing about these days, do they? Are they still roaming Zagreb's streets picking food out of garbage cans to survive? Too bad their former home is now Republica Srpska. Just think, they're not welcome in Croatia nor are they welcome in RS. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Keep singing Lenny!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.

icj1

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold.
(LOL, 18 November 2016 19:28)

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!"

What message did Serbia send icj? Please explain. Seselj was never appointed to a governmental position in Serbia. And while you're comparing the two, Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference icj. Keep trying though, I'm sure there are a lot of similarities between the two in your simple little mind.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty."

icj - Do you ever get tired of being wrong? The Hague took custody of Seselj after he voluntarily turned himself in in 2003. His court proceedings didn't start until late 2007. More than 4 years after being taken into custody. Conversely, Gotovina, who was arrested and didn't turn himself in, had his appeal heard within one year of his conviction. Very different indeed. And please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of. Please icj tell us what he was found guilty of after nearly 12 years in custody.

Mr. Junior

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

One of these days when some Cetnic has had enough of your Croat Nazi and Hitler worshiping bull sh*t, my advice to you would be that you run and don't look back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecoA_v0RC8

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

---
icj1, the CB of B92, should indeed learn the facts before icj1, our resident bigot, posts more daily lies. A UN vetted and apprvoved Judge by the name of F. Harhoff provided a first- hand direct written account of corruption at the ICTY. Fact: convictions or acquittals at the ICTY are not based on evidence. Fact: convictions or acquittals were subject to the biased political influence of Meron.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

LOL

pre 7 godina

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol
(icj1, 21 November 2016 14:55)

No you didn't. You wrote that Seselj was "included" in the Serbian parliament, implying his presence is there other than being elected. You tried to equate him being in parliament to Gotovina being appointed to a advisor position. You tried to equate two incompatible things and when I pointed out your flaw, you admitted it. I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand but you seem to have problems comprehending things.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"!"

So you are admitting that Seselj is not a war criminal, right? Come on icj, say it, it will be good for your soul. Try to bring your Serb-hating mind to accept the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge. Even though the media and the highly-paid Croat PR firms depicted him as guilty from day one. Show some character icj, admit it. HAHA!! I know it hurts. I'm sure you'll avoid the subject now as per usual and run away to another thread like the coward that you are.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "...after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison."

WRONG AGAIN! You never provided any indisputable evidence of anything other than your hateful anti-Serb writings that reveal your indisputable hatred of everything and anything Serb. Yet another lie from icj. I see a pattern here.

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal? Still waiting icj. Come on, spit it out. As I said before, the truth is good for your soul. HAHAHA!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

This is exactly the point I was making to icj. If he/she and many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader) use previous Hague convictions of Serbs to be accurate and just, then you all must also agree that Seselj is not a war criminal. Right? Thanks for the help. And if you followed the trial, you must agree that the Hague did everything possible to try and convict Seselj, by detaining him for 12 years of his life only to come up empty in the end. And icj has the nerve to compare this trial to Gotovina's, who WAS convicted of war crimes, but the verdict was overturned by the slimmest of margins in only a year. Certainly not an accurate comparison, but then again what would you expect from a renowned Serb-hater like icj?

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".
(icj1, 22 November 2016 00:53)

Because you made a false claim again
(njegos, 22 November 2016 13:51)

I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"! You perhaps saw that in your dreams and are now confusing reality with your dreams hahaha

Reader

pre 7 godina

"the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge."
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree. Really curious, there may be hope after all. I haven't seen a single of our Serb friends here come out and say it. If you agree with those conclusions, then this Gotovina story should not be a problem.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.

I'm happy though that I contributed to make you a more knowledgeable person and that you finally took the correct step to address the lie in your original post after learning the facts. Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

WRONG AGAIN!
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Then why did you change your writing from not guilty of "any charge" (njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08) to not guilty of "any war crime charge" (njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14) after I pointed out to you that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison?! If I'm wrong, than why do you change your writing based on my "wrong" statement?! :)

poor njegos... you've been reduced to the point of providing yourself the arguments about why your writings are ridiculous lol

icj1

pre 7 godina

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal?
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Is that question directed to me?!

icj1

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader)
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:22)

Mate, just because you are a Serb-hater, does not mean that everybody who debates with you is a Serb hater like you!

Lenard

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKN67Upj7BU love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian government is full of those who stood with Sloba and his wars. That's why we don't trust Serbs. It's funny how they pretend to be holier than thou.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

No, we're not interested in listening to that stupid Nazi wannabe. He's all yours. However, it's a known fact Croats love to play Serbian music at their weddings because their own music sucks. It's also because you're secretly jealous of what you hate and know that your culture is little more than a bastardization of Serbian, Italian and Hungarian along with that Aryan Persian blood you think you have. Serbs don't even give Croats a moment's notice beyond what they deserve, and if they didn't act like a bunch of retarded Nazis, they'd get no attention at all. Thanks for the laugh mate. You're always good for a chuckle, what with that semi-literate semi-civilized mentality of yours, along with your incomprehensible English, which I'm certain is about as good as your Croatian, coming from that vukojebina Hercegovinian village of yours :)

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia, when it appointed former Hague defendant Ante Gotovina as a government adviser."

Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

To icy1,
Vucic or Serbia did not make him (Seselj) a minister in their cabinet or party )))
5% of the votes of population got Seselj into Parliament,not a " Minister of the Country",)))
You are a uneducated person )))
You a difficult person with special needs ,Lol

LOL

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold. The only way for this to be similar is if Vucic appointed Seselj a Ministry position, but since the SRS is not part of the governing coalition, he has no power.

Look at you trying to sound smart :)

Englishman

pre 7 godina

"Aleksandar Vucic says he has "understood the message" sent by Croatia"

I'm glad he got the message: Gotovina is an innocent man who only defended his country. What other message can there be? Does Vucic think he is going to dictate who gets appointed to a position in Croatia? Him and his government need a reality check because they're heading for disaster with the games they keep trying to play.
Poor little serbia.

P.S. Now you can listen to Ari Gold ignore the facts and whine about me not really being an englishman because I said his name sounds Libyan.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Lenny the Loser: "I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along."

Hey Lenny Boy, I don't think your Ustasha family has anything to sing about these days, do they? Are they still roaming Zagreb's streets picking food out of garbage cans to survive? Too bad their former home is now Republica Srpska. Just think, they're not welcome in Croatia nor are they welcome in RS. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Keep singing Lenny!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!
(icj1, 18 November 2016 15:39)

LOL "included"? It's called "he was voted in" you dimwit. Gotovina was appointed to his position, as leader of the SRS, Seselj enters parliament if his party passes the 5% threshold.
(LOL, 18 November 2016 19:28)

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Of course, it should not be that difficult for Vucic to understand since it's the same message as the message sent by Serbia when it included Hague defendant Seselj in Serbia's parliament!"

What message did Serbia send icj? Please explain. Seselj was never appointed to a governmental position in Serbia. And while you're comparing the two, Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference icj. Keep trying though, I'm sure there are a lot of similarities between the two in your simple little mind.

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty."

icj - Do you ever get tired of being wrong? The Hague took custody of Seselj after he voluntarily turned himself in in 2003. His court proceedings didn't start until late 2007. More than 4 years after being taken into custody. Conversely, Gotovina, who was arrested and didn't turn himself in, had his appeal heard within one year of his conviction. Very different indeed. And please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of. Please icj tell us what he was found guilty of after nearly 12 years in custody.

LOL

pre 7 godina

I did not write anywhere that Seselj was not voted in or that SRS did not pass the 5% threshold. So, congratulations for convincing yourself that Seselj was voted in and that the SRS passed the 5% threshold lol
(icj1, 21 November 2016 14:55)

No you didn't. You wrote that Seselj was "included" in the Serbian parliament, implying his presence is there other than being elected. You tried to equate him being in parliament to Gotovina being appointed to a advisor position. You tried to equate two incompatible things and when I pointed out your flaw, you admitted it. I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand but you seem to have problems comprehending things.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".

Mr. Junior

pre 7 godina

PM reacts to Gotovina's appointment: "Message understood" Sure loud and clear warmongering criminal Serbs/Serbia big time losers. Hague nonsense indicting winner Gotovina if a artillery shell falls in 100 or 150 meters of civilian structures. Thrown out for Hague nonsensical stupidity. When war criminal Serbs bombed millions of times indiscriminately civilian targets and civilians hospitals, schools, residential areas etc. I know you Serbs secretly [link] love Thomson's music don't be shy sing along.
(Lenard, 18 November 2016 20:02)

One of these days when some Cetnic has had enough of your Croat Nazi and Hitler worshiping bull sh*t, my advice to you would be that you run and don't look back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecoA_v0RC8

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!!"

Because you made a false claim again icj!! Once again when icj is asked to prove his allegations with researchable and verifiable facts, he/she runs away, obfuscates and deflects. Exposed for the fraud that you are again and again again. Too easy!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Gotovina was convicted at the Hague of war crimes and the verdict was reversed on appeal. Seselj, on the other hand, spent 12 years at the Hague defending himself and was not found guilty of any charge. Quite a difference
(njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08)

Since it appears the news has not reached you yet, the Hague has already found Seselj guilty of three charges and convicted him for a total of almost 5 years in prison. So, yes, quite a difference with Gotovina whom the Hague found not guilty.
(icj1, 21 November 2016 20:40)

please enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of
(njegos, 21 November 2016 21:37)

Why should I enumerate on the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty of?!!! It looks like you just want to digress since you were caught lying, again, when you wrote that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge".
(icj1, 22 November 2016 00:53)

Because you made a false claim again
(njegos, 22 November 2016 13:51)

I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"! You perhaps saw that in your dreams and are now confusing reality with your dreams hahaha

Reader

pre 7 godina

"the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge."
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree. Really curious, there may be hope after all. I haven't seen a single of our Serb friends here come out and say it. If you agree with those conclusions, then this Gotovina story should not be a problem.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.

I'm happy though that I contributed to make you a more knowledgeable person and that you finally took the correct step to address the lie in your original post after learning the facts. Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge"
(njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14)

Great, so it looks like you are in agreement with me that your prior writing that Seselj "was not found guilty of any charge" was a pure lie and you now changed it to not guilty "of a single war crime charge" after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

WRONG AGAIN!
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Then why did you change your writing from not guilty of "any charge" (njegos, 21 November 2016 16:08) to not guilty of "any war crime charge" (njegos, 23 November 2016 16:14) after I pointed out to you that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison?! If I'm wrong, than why do you change your writing based on my "wrong" statement?! :)

poor njegos... you've been reduced to the point of providing yourself the arguments about why your writings are ridiculous lol

icj1

pre 7 godina

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal?
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:13)

Is that question directed to me?!

icj1

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader)
(njegos, 24 November 2016 15:22)

Mate, just because you are a Serb-hater, does not mean that everybody who debates with you is a Serb hater like you!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "I did not make any claim about "the war crimes charges that Seselj was found guilty off"!"

So you are admitting that Seselj is not a war criminal, right? Come on icj, say it, it will be good for your soul. Try to bring your Serb-hating mind to accept the fact that after being held for 12 years with no professional legal representation, the Hague could not find this man guilty of a single war crimes charge. Even though the media and the highly-paid Croat PR firms depicted him as guilty from day one. Show some character icj, admit it. HAHA!! I know it hurts. I'm sure you'll avoid the subject now as per usual and run away to another thread like the coward that you are.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, next time you learn the facts before you post lies.
(icj1, 23 November 2016 21:58)

---
icj1, the CB of B92, should indeed learn the facts before icj1, our resident bigot, posts more daily lies. A UN vetted and apprvoved Judge by the name of F. Harhoff provided a first- hand direct written account of corruption at the ICTY. Fact: convictions or acquittals at the ICTY are not based on evidence. Fact: convictions or acquittals were subject to the biased political influence of Meron.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

njegos

pre 7 godina

From icj: "...after I presented you with the indisputable fact that Seselj has already been found guilty of at least 3 charges and convicted to almost 5 years in prison."

WRONG AGAIN! You never provided any indisputable evidence of anything other than your hateful anti-Serb writings that reveal your indisputable hatred of everything and anything Serb. Yet another lie from icj. I see a pattern here.

Now please answer my question: would you agree that Seselj, based on the 12 years of Hague court findings, is not a war criminal? Still waiting icj. Come on, spit it out. As I said before, the truth is good for your soul. HAHAHA!!

njegos

pre 7 godina

From Reader: "Sorry to interfere but are you saying that you agree with the conclusions of the Hague tribunal? If you use them as arguments, it would seem that you agree..."

This is exactly the point I was making to icj. If he/she and many other Serb-haters on this site (you included Reader) use previous Hague convictions of Serbs to be accurate and just, then you all must also agree that Seselj is not a war criminal. Right? Thanks for the help. And if you followed the trial, you must agree that the Hague did everything possible to try and convict Seselj, by detaining him for 12 years of his life only to come up empty in the end. And icj has the nerve to compare this trial to Gotovina's, who WAS convicted of war crimes, but the verdict was overturned by the slimmest of margins in only a year. Certainly not an accurate comparison, but then again what would you expect from a renowned Serb-hater like icj?