"Russia could give up on Kosovo if West recognizes Crimea"
Ukraine's Ambassador Oleksandr Aleksandrovych has told the Belgrade-based daily Blic that his country's position not to recognize Kosovo remains unchanged.
LOLOL!!!! PETER THE ROCKY... albanians are illyrian? You are totally dillusional. You are completely brainwashed and know no real history. You just bbelieve your own lies.
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population (icj1, 18 November 2016 01:53)
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Yes, we all agree the assessment is inaccurate. The overwhelming evidence is consistent with a more accurate assessment for KiM of: "fencing-in a dysfunctional ghetto".
Apartheid bigots, such as icj1, the CB of B92, are vocal cheerleaders for ethnic segregation and ghettoization. icj1 has gone to extremes of labeling an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Commentary and postings from icj1 and their ilk belong in the graves with Mengele and icj1's other evil mentors.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic military base.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
two other key points are :
1/ Andronicus I Komnin later called by the Greeks as Cruisified (Christ) Prophet (Jesus) was born in a cave in Fiolent now known as Sevastopol.
2/ Maria Galitskaya aka The Virgyn was burried here in Chufut Kale.
appropriate churches are built in both places and Putin visits them.
Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
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Russia only uses Serbia for its benefit. I think the smart, open-minded people in Serbia see that, but not the nationalists, no one has ever accused them of being smart. They're just meatheads who would kill themselves if their cult leader Putin told them to do it. We can only hope.
Sounds like a bit of a cry for help. Ok, I am sure Serbia will oblige. I will watch out for Ukraine a little more from now on, whatever that's worth.
Yet Ukraine needs to reinstate pensions and social services to the east. They do little or nothing to satisfy eastern Ukrainians. I am sure they want peace as much as anyone.
Perhaps it is time for Ukrainians to bury the hatchet, give the east some elements of self government, and get on with life.
Oh, we won't forget you didn't recognise Kosovo.
But not looking kind no to Russia is not reasonable. They are the only ones, however you want to put it, who defended serbias interests. Can you imagine the Americans wanted to make Serbs more guilty than the Germans for the holocaust, or the Turks for the genocide of the Armenians. Only the Russians stood up for justice. I won't forget that either.
@sj
As you say sj, things are changing and your politicians and political are very disoriented, in which way choose. Not a good thing for Serbia!
Don’t talk to us about relationship or brotherhood, after all what happened in Jugoslavia, and Soviet Union look something strange!
We don’t need to go to far to understand the brotherhood relationship between Russia and Ukraine ( more close than Serbs one )
Or Serbia – Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia, when it came to the personal interest you will step in every brotherhood moral.
Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation. Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
(Joni, 16 November 2016 14:38)
LOL I bet Russia is dying to have the great Edi Rama visit who wore platform shoes standing next to Vucic because he has an inferiority complex but he's just far too busy for them. There are riots all throughout Moscow demanding Edi Rama visit. So far, Russia hasn't done enough to convince him :'(
And there are 10% of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and double that when the conditions are right for the return of those who were ethnically cleansed. Added to the fact that Albanians are leaving in droves, you really dont have as many people there as you say you do.
@sj
So, is just to see what will happen! But, as much as Russia justify the intervention in Crimea based on Kosovo case, I think that Albania should “play” a little or at least try to compare these cases. Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation.
Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
The only scenario that will be there ( and if it will be ) is that Russia at least help Serbia in RS case, justifying it with Kosovo and even with Crimea. But even that with the agreement of EU and US. That is the max you can profit, nothing more!
Hey Kosova dardana was never Serbian!!!
Occupied by Serbia yes, however always a bleeding and fatal wound to Serbia as the inhabitants of Kosova a whopping 97% Albanian majority have always resisted the illegal Serbian occupation!!! These are Illyrian-Albanian lands!!!
And another thing Einstein, if you haven't forgotten it was officially tooken away from Serbian occupation in 1999 & made a independent country in 2008!!!
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd landed on their heads
(Peter the Rock, 16 November 2016 12:44)
Nah, this is Ukraine's ambassador to Serbia. Obviously he has a biased viewpoint. Why would this one guys opinions affect anything? And I'm not dumb. Only naive people think Russia does anything for Serbia out of "friendship". There was none of that when Russia didn't intervene for Serbia during the war or pulled back from Kosovo-Metohija after the war. There is only interest. And so all I see is Serbia's interest in anything.
But I don't see any big trade off between Russia and the U.S. over recognition. That is rarely how its done in international politics. It's in Serbia's interest to have good ties to Russia and to not join NATO. Likewise, it's also not in Serbia's interest to recognize Crimea as part of Russia because Ukraine doesn't recognize fake state of 'kosovo*'.
don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
Do you mean the Russian land grabbed in Ukraine ?
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions
(William UK, 16 November 2016 11:57)
Exactly ! The only time when Russia had to trade lands was when the Russians and the Yankees met in Oregon in 19 century. We had to sell Oregon and Alaska and California as we had little chance to defend them.
Sj : Yes Russia could do that, but it will not.
I would say that Russia will not.
Because it could not do it to the Serbs.
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd just landed dead smack on their heads!
Silly immature kids trick are made for kids!!!
Greetings From The Sovereign Republic of Kosovo!!!
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
It’s rather strange to hear something reasonable from a Ukrainian official so I place the full text. Everybody is aware that Ukraine is a finished pseudo state and that the rats already eat one another. But after the Trampocalipses when Ukraine stroke him from behind disclosing USD 13 bln granted by a local oligarch during Yanukovic they all expect the catastrophe. In the Russian media and blogosphere Ukraine is a matter of anecdotes and sarcasm. Ukraine supplies us with patterns of their fast increasing idiotism on a daily basis. Everybody understands that they have no other way out but to surrender to Russia. But in this case several thousands of the Soros type sellouts will have nowhere to run. This ambassador must has no blood on his hands so he’ll say that he knew nothing and he could do nothing. Just the way the Germans behaved in 1945 … But we are one Russian people and we'll have to save them and to forgive them anyways.
What does recognise Crimea mean? As far as Russia is concerned, Crimea is part of Russia and Russia is already recognised. The main problem Russia has is sanctions imposed by the EU and US, which hurts both sides.
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions or that the West would agree to it. China still has a veto. But regardless, the world is changing and I expect Trump will have a new foreign policy. He certainly has the mandate for change.
Yes Russia could do that, but it will not. You have to remember that the relationship between Serbs and Russians is very deep unlike the relationship with the US and Albanians or anyone else for that matter. America’s motto is you died for us yesterday, but what are you doing for us today?
Russia does not care if the west does not recognise Crimea as part of Russia. They don’t recognise Ossetia and Abkhazia, formerly Georgia, as part of Russia and life goes on.
What does recognise Crimea mean? As far as Russia is concerned, Crimea is part of Russia and Russia is already recognised. The main problem Russia has is sanctions imposed by the EU and US, which hurts both sides.
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions or that the West would agree to it. China still has a veto. But regardless, the world is changing and I expect Trump will have a new foreign policy. He certainly has the mandate for change.
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd landed on their heads
(Peter the Rock, 16 November 2016 12:44)
Nah, this is Ukraine's ambassador to Serbia. Obviously he has a biased viewpoint. Why would this one guys opinions affect anything? And I'm not dumb. Only naive people think Russia does anything for Serbia out of "friendship". There was none of that when Russia didn't intervene for Serbia during the war or pulled back from Kosovo-Metohija after the war. There is only interest. And so all I see is Serbia's interest in anything.
But I don't see any big trade off between Russia and the U.S. over recognition. That is rarely how its done in international politics. It's in Serbia's interest to have good ties to Russia and to not join NATO. Likewise, it's also not in Serbia's interest to recognize Crimea as part of Russia because Ukraine doesn't recognize fake state of 'kosovo*'.
Yes Russia could do that, but it will not. You have to remember that the relationship between Serbs and Russians is very deep unlike the relationship with the US and Albanians or anyone else for that matter. America’s motto is you died for us yesterday, but what are you doing for us today?
Russia does not care if the west does not recognise Crimea as part of Russia. They don’t recognise Ossetia and Abkhazia, formerly Georgia, as part of Russia and life goes on.
Sounds like a bit of a cry for help. Ok, I am sure Serbia will oblige. I will watch out for Ukraine a little more from now on, whatever that's worth.
Yet Ukraine needs to reinstate pensions and social services to the east. They do little or nothing to satisfy eastern Ukrainians. I am sure they want peace as much as anyone.
Perhaps it is time for Ukrainians to bury the hatchet, give the east some elements of self government, and get on with life.
Oh, we won't forget you didn't recognise Kosovo.
But not looking kind no to Russia is not reasonable. They are the only ones, however you want to put it, who defended serbias interests. Can you imagine the Americans wanted to make Serbs more guilty than the Germans for the holocaust, or the Turks for the genocide of the Armenians. Only the Russians stood up for justice. I won't forget that either.
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd just landed dead smack on their heads!
Silly immature kids trick are made for kids!!!
Greetings From The Sovereign Republic of Kosovo!!!
Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation. Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
(Joni, 16 November 2016 14:38)
LOL I bet Russia is dying to have the great Edi Rama visit who wore platform shoes standing next to Vucic because he has an inferiority complex but he's just far too busy for them. There are riots all throughout Moscow demanding Edi Rama visit. So far, Russia hasn't done enough to convince him :'(
And there are 10% of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and double that when the conditions are right for the return of those who were ethnically cleansed. Added to the fact that Albanians are leaving in droves, you really dont have as many people there as you say you do.
@sj
As you say sj, things are changing and your politicians and political are very disoriented, in which way choose. Not a good thing for Serbia!
Don’t talk to us about relationship or brotherhood, after all what happened in Jugoslavia, and Soviet Union look something strange!
We don’t need to go to far to understand the brotherhood relationship between Russia and Ukraine ( more close than Serbs one )
Or Serbia – Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia, when it came to the personal interest you will step in every brotherhood moral.
Hey Kosova dardana was never Serbian!!!
Occupied by Serbia yes, however always a bleeding and fatal wound to Serbia as the inhabitants of Kosova a whopping 97% Albanian majority have always resisted the illegal Serbian occupation!!! These are Illyrian-Albanian lands!!!
And another thing Einstein, if you haven't forgotten it was officially tooken away from Serbian occupation in 1999 & made a independent country in 2008!!!
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
Russia only uses Serbia for its benefit. I think the smart, open-minded people in Serbia see that, but not the nationalists, no one has ever accused them of being smart. They're just meatheads who would kill themselves if their cult leader Putin told them to do it. We can only hope.
don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
Do you mean the Russian land grabbed in Ukraine ?
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions
(William UK, 16 November 2016 11:57)
Exactly ! The only time when Russia had to trade lands was when the Russians and the Yankees met in Oregon in 19 century. We had to sell Oregon and Alaska and California as we had little chance to defend them.
Sj : Yes Russia could do that, but it will not.
I would say that Russia will not.
Because it could not do it to the Serbs.
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
It’s rather strange to hear something reasonable from a Ukrainian official so I place the full text. Everybody is aware that Ukraine is a finished pseudo state and that the rats already eat one another. But after the Trampocalipses when Ukraine stroke him from behind disclosing USD 13 bln granted by a local oligarch during Yanukovic they all expect the catastrophe. In the Russian media and blogosphere Ukraine is a matter of anecdotes and sarcasm. Ukraine supplies us with patterns of their fast increasing idiotism on a daily basis. Everybody understands that they have no other way out but to surrender to Russia. But in this case several thousands of the Soros type sellouts will have nowhere to run. This ambassador must has no blood on his hands so he’ll say that he knew nothing and he could do nothing. Just the way the Germans behaved in 1945 … But we are one Russian people and we'll have to save them and to forgive them anyways.
@sj
So, is just to see what will happen! But, as much as Russia justify the intervention in Crimea based on Kosovo case, I think that Albania should “play” a little or at least try to compare these cases. Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation.
Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
The only scenario that will be there ( and if it will be ) is that Russia at least help Serbia in RS case, justifying it with Kosovo and even with Crimea. But even that with the agreement of EU and US. That is the max you can profit, nothing more!
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Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population (icj1, 18 November 2016 01:53)
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Yes, we all agree the assessment is inaccurate. The overwhelming evidence is consistent with a more accurate assessment for KiM of: "fencing-in a dysfunctional ghetto".
Apartheid bigots, such as icj1, the CB of B92, are vocal cheerleaders for ethnic segregation and ghettoization. icj1 has gone to extremes of labeling an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Commentary and postings from icj1 and their ilk belong in the graves with Mengele and icj1's other evil mentors.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
two other key points are :
1/ Andronicus I Komnin later called by the Greeks as Cruisified (Christ) Prophet (Jesus) was born in a cave in Fiolent now known as Sevastopol.
2/ Maria Galitskaya aka The Virgyn was burried here in Chufut Kale.
appropriate churches are built in both places and Putin visits them.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic military base.
LOLOL!!!! PETER THE ROCKY... albanians are illyrian? You are totally dillusional. You are completely brainwashed and know no real history. You just bbelieve your own lies.
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd just landed dead smack on their heads!
Silly immature kids trick are made for kids!!!
Greetings From The Sovereign Republic of Kosovo!!!
Hey Kosova dardana was never Serbian!!!
Occupied by Serbia yes, however always a bleeding and fatal wound to Serbia as the inhabitants of Kosova a whopping 97% Albanian majority have always resisted the illegal Serbian occupation!!! These are Illyrian-Albanian lands!!!
And another thing Einstein, if you haven't forgotten it was officially tooken away from Serbian occupation in 1999 & made a independent country in 2008!!!
Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation. Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
(Joni, 16 November 2016 14:38)
LOL I bet Russia is dying to have the great Edi Rama visit who wore platform shoes standing next to Vucic because he has an inferiority complex but he's just far too busy for them. There are riots all throughout Moscow demanding Edi Rama visit. So far, Russia hasn't done enough to convince him :'(
And there are 10% of Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija and double that when the conditions are right for the return of those who were ethnically cleansed. Added to the fact that Albanians are leaving in droves, you really dont have as many people there as you say you do.
Yes Russia could do that, but it will not. You have to remember that the relationship between Serbs and Russians is very deep unlike the relationship with the US and Albanians or anyone else for that matter. America’s motto is you died for us yesterday, but what are you doing for us today?
Russia does not care if the west does not recognise Crimea as part of Russia. They don’t recognise Ossetia and Abkhazia, formerly Georgia, as part of Russia and life goes on.
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
Do you mean the Russian land grabbed in Ukraine ?
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions
(William UK, 16 November 2016 11:57)
Exactly ! The only time when Russia had to trade lands was when the Russians and the Yankees met in Oregon in 19 century. We had to sell Oregon and Alaska and California as we had little chance to defend them.
Sj : Yes Russia could do that, but it will not.
I would say that Russia will not.
Because it could not do it to the Serbs.
@sj
So, is just to see what will happen! But, as much as Russia justify the intervention in Crimea based on Kosovo case, I think that Albania should “play” a little or at least try to compare these cases. Russia invite Mr.Rama but he is a “stubborn” he’s not yet accepted the invitation.
Russians justify the intervention in Crimea with the Referendum made there, but also there was a Referendum in Kosovo in 1991, so? I have no idea about Ossetia, or Abkhazia, but the conflict was after the fall of Soviet Union as I know, and yes the life will go on but firstly we (Kosovo) are in EU, which Russia have to deal with and not in Russia borders. Kosovo will not be “touched”, not about fear but because there live just less than 2% Serbs so the justification of the intervention in Serbian favor “will be” which one ?
The only scenario that will be there ( and if it will be ) is that Russia at least help Serbia in RS case, justifying it with Kosovo and even with Crimea. But even that with the agreement of EU and US. That is the max you can profit, nothing more!
Sounds like a bit of a cry for help. Ok, I am sure Serbia will oblige. I will watch out for Ukraine a little more from now on, whatever that's worth.
Yet Ukraine needs to reinstate pensions and social services to the east. They do little or nothing to satisfy eastern Ukrainians. I am sure they want peace as much as anyone.
Perhaps it is time for Ukrainians to bury the hatchet, give the east some elements of self government, and get on with life.
Oh, we won't forget you didn't recognise Kosovo.
But not looking kind no to Russia is not reasonable. They are the only ones, however you want to put it, who defended serbias interests. Can you imagine the Americans wanted to make Serbs more guilty than the Germans for the holocaust, or the Turks for the genocide of the Armenians. Only the Russians stood up for justice. I won't forget that either.
Russia only uses Serbia for its benefit. I think the smart, open-minded people in Serbia see that, but not the nationalists, no one has ever accused them of being smart. They're just meatheads who would kill themselves if their cult leader Putin told them to do it. We can only hope.
"We are also an Orthodox (Christian) people. You have Kosovo, we have Crimea and eastern Ukraine. As in Kosovo, people came there with huge amounts of arms, which they received from the outside, and took our territory away," claims Aleksandrovych.
It’s rather strange to hear something reasonable from a Ukrainian official so I place the full text. Everybody is aware that Ukraine is a finished pseudo state and that the rats already eat one another. But after the Trampocalipses when Ukraine stroke him from behind disclosing USD 13 bln granted by a local oligarch during Yanukovic they all expect the catastrophe. In the Russian media and blogosphere Ukraine is a matter of anecdotes and sarcasm. Ukraine supplies us with patterns of their fast increasing idiotism on a daily basis. Everybody understands that they have no other way out but to surrender to Russia. But in this case several thousands of the Soros type sellouts will have nowhere to run. This ambassador must has no blood on his hands so he’ll say that he knew nothing and he could do nothing. Just the way the Germans behaved in 1945 … But we are one Russian people and we'll have to save them and to forgive them anyways.
@sj
As you say sj, things are changing and your politicians and political are very disoriented, in which way choose. Not a good thing for Serbia!
Don’t talk to us about relationship or brotherhood, after all what happened in Jugoslavia, and Soviet Union look something strange!
We don’t need to go to far to understand the brotherhood relationship between Russia and Ukraine ( more close than Serbs one )
Or Serbia – Croatia, Montenegro, Bosnia, when it came to the personal interest you will step in every brotherhood moral.
За проект проголосовали 73 страны, среди которых США, Великобритания, Канада и страны Евросоюза. 23 высказались против, в том числе РФ, Армения, Белоруссия, Венесуэла, Китай, КНДР, Индия, Иран, Казахстан, Сербия, Сирия и Узбекистан. Еще 76 стран воздержались, среди них Киргизия и Таджикистан.
I'll bet, ARI GOLD, SJ, PEGGY, HANK THE RUSTED TANK, BULLWINKLE, feel like a huge turd landed on their heads
(Peter the Rock, 16 November 2016 12:44)
Nah, this is Ukraine's ambassador to Serbia. Obviously he has a biased viewpoint. Why would this one guys opinions affect anything? And I'm not dumb. Only naive people think Russia does anything for Serbia out of "friendship". There was none of that when Russia didn't intervene for Serbia during the war or pulled back from Kosovo-Metohija after the war. There is only interest. And so all I see is Serbia's interest in anything.
But I don't see any big trade off between Russia and the U.S. over recognition. That is rarely how its done in international politics. It's in Serbia's interest to have good ties to Russia and to not join NATO. Likewise, it's also not in Serbia's interest to recognize Crimea as part of Russia because Ukraine doesn't recognize fake state of 'kosovo*'.
What does recognise Crimea mean? As far as Russia is concerned, Crimea is part of Russia and Russia is already recognised. The main problem Russia has is sanctions imposed by the EU and US, which hurts both sides.
I highly doubt Russia would recognise Kosovo for the lifting of sanctions or that the West would agree to it. China still has a veto. But regardless, the world is changing and I expect Trump will have a new foreign policy. He certainly has the mandate for change.
Indeed, but don't expect Serbia to say any word of criticism about the Russian land grabbing in Ukraine.
(Comm. Parrisson, 16 November 2016 12:05)
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
two other key points are :
1/ Andronicus I Komnin later called by the Greeks as Cruisified (Christ) Prophet (Jesus) was born in a cave in Fiolent now known as Sevastopol.
2/ Maria Galitskaya aka The Virgyn was burried here in Chufut Kale.
appropriate churches are built in both places and Putin visits them.
LOLOL!!!! PETER THE ROCKY... albanians are illyrian? You are totally dillusional. You are completely brainwashed and know no real history. You just bbelieve your own lies.
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population (icj1, 18 November 2016 01:53)
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Yes, we all agree the assessment is inaccurate. The overwhelming evidence is consistent with a more accurate assessment for KiM of: "fencing-in a dysfunctional ghetto".
Apartheid bigots, such as icj1, the CB of B92, are vocal cheerleaders for ethnic segregation and ghettoization. icj1 has gone to extremes of labeling an entire ethnic group with a neurological disorder. Commentary and postings from icj1 and their ilk belong in the graves with Mengele and icj1's other evil mentors.
"land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Crimea has a large Russian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic naval port and base.
(Jugoslavija, 17 November 2016 17:42)
Yup, "land grabbing" is not a fair assessment, Kosovo has a large Albanian influence and population, the key point is that it is a strategic military base.
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