"Putin lost in Montenegro, will try to cause more problems"

I have yet to come across an American analyst who has got it right. Perhaps that is the reason they are bogged down in wars they constantly lose.

A little advice to Server; Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.

Serwer is wrong again, as usual. It's the people of Montenegro that will cause problems for Djukanovic because after 3 decades of ruling the country with an iron fist, the people want changes. 60% of voters even in Djukanovic's fake elections voted against him. Let us not forget that most of his voters are public sector workers who are obligated to bring their families to vote for him, Bosniaks from Europe who are paid €250 as caught on video, and Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija who are brought over by Thaci which is of course Djukanovic's partner in crime.

Even the pro-NATO SDP party has joined with the pro-Serb opposition in not recognizing these fake results. Montenegro needs free and fair elections, if this were to happen then Djukanovic would not even cross the census and would likely be in prison.

(Guest, 18 October 2016 11:40)

I hate to burst your bubble but all the world is in a deep dark economic hole mate. The US is 135% of GDP in debt while the UK is 85% and rising. I just returned from the UK and Ireland after a 7 week trip and I can say I would not move there as a lifestyle choice. The average wage is $26,000 US per year while Ireland is much, much worse.
The problem with Albanians is they think this is the 1980s not 2016. One major factor that came out for the reasons of the Brexit vote was due to immigrants who fill their prisons and one main group is the Albanians.

Not sure why some people have such an obsession
(icj1, 18 October 2016 15:51)
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The lads of Python are rolling with laughter. icj1, the CB of B92, has a pathological obsession with all things Serbian: Be it law, politics, religion, news, elections, history, territorial integrity, contemporary events, entertainment, sports, arts, science, medicine. icj1's 's daily drivel and endless false statements reflect a severe psychosis by a self-diagnosed nihilist glued to his/her keyboard.
icj1's 's hourly postings provide first-hand, direct evidence of "such an obsession".

PS CB = Chief Bigot

If course he lost in Montenegro, he lost in Kosovo too. It is Putin who decided to pull the Russian troops out of Kosovo, simply because Russia couldn't afford keeping their troops in Kosovo without getting something back. So much for the love of Serbo-Russo brotherhood lol.
Who wants to have for their country what Putin has for Russia? All of you Serbs surely have immigrated to western democratic, civilized, advanced countries. You had nothing to begin with, and you've done so well for your families. Now, why in the world would you go to western countries and not Russia?
Save it, we know why no need to explain. Look at Russia it is in deep, dark, hole economically, financially, and just about everything else.
So, for all of you Serbs who live in western countries... put your money where your mouth is and move to Russia.

(rote, 19 October 2016 08:49)

A child of Serbian descent is Serb! period. Doesn't mean sh*t where it's been born. I am Serb, my wife is Serb, but my children are born on Dutch soil. So are they all of a sudden Dutch? gtfo!

Stop reading fantasy and start reading some genetics, archaeology and etymology, and please don't ridicule yourself.

Furthermore, Slavic nations have nothing in common. Genetically we are not the same people. A Serb is not the same as a Macedon, Croat, Sloven, Slovak, or Russian for that matter.
The only thing that binds us is language; that's all!
So we are not, and never will be, your brothers.

And the Balkans never belonged to you either. Believing in an alternative universe is one thing, but forcing that belief upon the rest of us is pretty insulting and shows lack of intelligence.

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:04)

Well, well our resident idiot opens it mouth and out come a stupid comment; what a surprise.

(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:16)
As sj is the CE of B92 forums then sj declares icj1 to be an albanian idiot. Therefore, we have icj1 confirming that what sj writes is the truth, thus even icj1 concludes that he/she is an idot.

Well said icj1 LOL.

I wish someone would explain to me why anyone listens to dear old Dan......he has been consistently wrong about every major event in the Balkans for more than twenty years.

I think the more interesting point here is that Putin also "lost" in Georgia and Ukraine but everywhere NATO sets foot and Putin "loses", those countries become destabilised and Putin gets something (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea), even Syria.

The two camps seem quite close, 49% to 51% so Montenegro is ripe for destabilisation. Some will blame Putin, others NATO but the games of divide and conquer are being played out by the big powers.

Ari Gold says "Let us not forget that most of his voters are public sector workers who are obligated to bring their families to vote for him"

Stupid comment. The entire point of an election is to vote for those that will benefit you the most! You say public sector employees voting for Djukanovic is a bad thing because under his leadership they have jobs. Whats the alternative? Vote for someone that is against your best interest?? You are so foolish its astounding. What has Serbia done for Montenegro besides take Montenegros little money and send it to Belgrade. What has Russia done for Montenegro? Living in the past and pointing to Russian support 100 years ago is stupid. America and NATO and Europe is the only source of stability for Montenegro. Look at Serbia now, they have problems with EVERY neighbor around them. Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo AND Montenegro. Is that the life Montenegrins want? To be in a petpetual state of warfare and threats like Serbia? I dont think so. Change doesnt happen overnight, but Montenegro is on the right track and there is nothing Serbia nor Russia can do about it. Russia wants to create a source of instability in the Balkans for America with Serbia, they would love to do the same with Montenegro. Montenegro isnt going to be a pawn in anybodys game. Serbia is a pariah state in the Balkans. Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.

All power is in our hands now. If we impose sanctions, it will be a clear sign to Putin that he's not welcome on Balkans until he changes his imperialist ways.

Until that happens, he will keep prodding and eventually hit the West where it hurts, making retaliation necessary, and when that happens, as usual, we'll take all the heat.

When will we get smart?

Putin will lose in US too. His 'pal' will lose big time.

The only losers here are in fact Montenegro's Albos who have seen their seats being reduced from an initial 5 to 3 and now to 1, over the last 10 years. So keep up the good job, bros, always vote for Milo, don't vote for Albos. Totally assimilated, Albos, but at least pro Milo, dear bros. Am I wrong Albos? Am I wrong? Btw, could somebody explain the meaning of the Albanian expression 'kiss Milo' (puthuni me Milon) to our enemies the Serbs here? Am I wrong or it means something like 'forget about it, no chance to succeed'? Milo the Great, Milo the Westerner, Milo the Winner!! Heil Milo!!

His 'pal' will lose big time.
(Avni, 18 October 2016 16:06)

His real "pal", Hillary, is up in the polls.

Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.
(Serbian Crusher, 18 October 2016 12:52)

Oh good. It can then join Serbia which is already there.

Are you really as serious as you take yourself?

Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.
(Serbian Crusher, 18 October 2016 12:52)

Oh good. It can then join Serbia which is already there.
(the actual truth, 18 October 2016 15:18)

What does joining Serbia have to do with Montenegro being (or not being) on the top 10 places to visit?!

Not sure why some people have such an obsession with or needing other countries to join Serbia that can't think of anything else! Does Serbia feel that lonely?!

Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.
(sj, 18 October 2016 11:09)

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1 : Putin got to pay the pensions of the Crimean pensioners using the money from the Russian populace (since Crimea did not contribute anything) and he also got to spend the money and blood of the Russian populace in Syria.

Court it’s not your shqip business to think about our pensioners or the blood we shed. Just remember that after all Putin still enjoys support of 85% Russians who knows it better what is good for them and what is not. Crimeans and Ossetians are our people and we make no difference. Ukraine will be the next.


Vojvodina : When will we get smart?

There’s a Russian film by Nikita Mihalkov СВОЙ СРЕДИ ЧУЖИХ, ЧУЖОЙ СРЕДИ СВОИХ that’s what you are in this forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcifkZWR1cA


Serbian Crusher

Don’t worry about Ari Gold. In her every comment you will find a tactical trading element. In one episode Serbs are brothers with the Russians in some other we are cousins then we are only partners ect. Same line concerning every other neighbor. She believes that having Serbian mother and father is enough to call herself a Serb. Such “Serbians” are worse than dozens of the helpless Vojvodinas and Serbian Crushers. Serbs and Montenegrins are one people and sooner or later Russia will save it. Right now we are too busy in Syria where the main fight against the USA is close to the peak. But we’ll be back to the Balkans that belonged us before 17 century. Even Tirana/Turan is a Russian word.

Putin gets something (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea), even Syria.
(William UK, 18 October 2016 13:14)

Sure, Putin got to pay the pensions of the Crimean pensioners using the money from the Russian populace (since Crimea did not contribute anything) and he also got to spend the money and blood of the Russian populace in Syria. Those are very nice things to get that will definitely help a, say, Russian pensioner feed herself!

milos shqipic : So we are not, and never will be, your brothers.

ВОЛЬНОМУ ВОЛЯ - НАСИЛЬНО МИЛ НЕ БУДЕШЬ.

The above shqiptare BS has nothing to do with the reality. Slavic tribes composed the Great (Roman, Mongol, Tartar) Horde that conquered the world for some 2-5 centuries. But after the Horde was destroyed from inside by the Prussian Romanovs Slavic peoples were broken into 3 parts. One in their motherland Russia, the other in their motherland Balkans and one in the west of Europe that they have occupied.

Main Slavic happlogroups R and I were artificially divided as R1a and R1b to cover the fact that 90% of Europe is inhabited by the Slavs. And almost the same picture is in the Americas. They could quite use another codification of the happlogroups that appeared 9 years ago. Say R1b could quite be R1a1b but the west cannot afford the Slavs to be united. So they scheduled the happlogroups the way the Slavs would look like what you wrote. I don’t know if you are a victim of the western propaganda or a victim of your shqiptar mother but you hit the target.
This very effect they needed. Same things happened to the “I” happlogroup of the Slavs. 68% of the Serbian happlogroups are same as the Russian. It’s good enough after 450 years of separate life. To say nothing of the Rus spirit that outside the mainland survived only in Serbia. Language differences were increased after Vuk Karadjic took money from the Austrians …

http://haplogroup.narod.ru/russ.html

Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.
(sj, 18 October 2016 11:09)

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:04)

Well, well our resident idiot opens it mouth and out come a stupid comment
(sj, 18 October 2016 22:40)

Even though you're calling the CE of B92 forums sj idiot and his/her comments stupid, I'm fully convinced that the CE of B92 forums sj is not an idiot, which is why I quoted his/her brilliant insights from his/her analysis of Putin's little pinky!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Drymades

Thanks! I am not a chauvinist you know and I believe that most of the current problems between nations were programmed after 17 century when the single state in the world began to collapse. In some eastern regions of the world it lasted until 1911 when joint forces of Russia, Europe and America covered China with blood. Few decades earlier the Portuguese destroyed another part of the Slavic empire in Japan. In 1775 the biggest state in the world Great Tartaria marked on all the maps and atlases was wiped off and it enabled the USA to appear and it helped Russia reach the Far East. In 1768 Judea was destroyed and was called Siam, now Taiwan … ect. ect.

Under religion pretexts the process was initiated in Europe in 16 century but many parts of the empire resisted the Protestants. Such were the Slavic Bogomils aka Catars in the south of France and Spain, such were the Catalan people, the Spanish and the Portugese. Even Britain resisted before 1650. Balkan peoples also hated the Protestants and so the stick to the Great P-Orta as part of the former empire. It saved them many lives and they had no ethnic conflicts for 400 years.

It also saved many Slavic toponymal in the region including words Khan/Can/Kan, White/Alba/Bal/Bel. Out of 12 survived family trees of Jesus on church walls 10 were saved in the Ottoman empire (Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Georgia) and 2 in Russia. Romanovs were part of Europe but in 19 century the became good Russians.

Millosh, language, history, traditions, and common ethic code should bind Slavs. The same goes for Albanians, be them Albania's Albos, Kosovans, Montenegro's Albos, or Macedonia's Albos. I've re-read Albo major etymologists recently and none of them seems to have the slightest idea on why exactly Albanians called themselves Arvanitet, the Whites, while most of them do agree on the the etymology of the word 'Shqiptar', so Rote has made a major contribution with his clues, providing maybe the only logical explanation ever, they belonged to the White Horde, a generic term became an identifying feature for Albos. You're not brothers? I'd be honored if Rote considered me one of his brothers, same ethic code, same traditions, a lot of expressions and words in common. Advice, the brain was given to mankind in order for us to use it in a proper way, don't misuse the major treasure we have Serbs, do not, for God's sake!

No need to thank me Rote, you know me & you & other people here do engage in a silent conversation on different topics, as this is the major contribution we can make to the audience. I admire your total lack of bias re historic issues. I think you and Ari Gold are two of the page's major assets, I personally have learned a lot from both of you.

Ari Gold says "Let us not forget that most of his voters are public sector workers who are obligated to bring their families to vote for him"

Stupid comment. The entire point of an election is to vote for those that will benefit you the most! You say public sector employees voting for Djukanovic is a bad thing because under his leadership they have jobs. Whats the alternative? Vote for someone that is against your best interest?? You are so foolish its astounding. What has Serbia done for Montenegro besides take Montenegros little money and send it to Belgrade. What has Russia done for Montenegro? Living in the past and pointing to Russian support 100 years ago is stupid. America and NATO and Europe is the only source of stability for Montenegro. Look at Serbia now, they have problems with EVERY neighbor around them. Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo AND Montenegro. Is that the life Montenegrins want? To be in a petpetual state of warfare and threats like Serbia? I dont think so. Change doesnt happen overnight, but Montenegro is on the right track and there is nothing Serbia nor Russia can do about it. Russia wants to create a source of instability in the Balkans for America with Serbia, they would love to do the same with Montenegro. Montenegro isnt going to be a pawn in anybodys game. Serbia is a pariah state in the Balkans. Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.

If course he lost in Montenegro, he lost in Kosovo too. It is Putin who decided to pull the Russian troops out of Kosovo, simply because Russia couldn't afford keeping their troops in Kosovo without getting something back. So much for the love of Serbo-Russo brotherhood lol.
Who wants to have for their country what Putin has for Russia? All of you Serbs surely have immigrated to western democratic, civilized, advanced countries. You had nothing to begin with, and you've done so well for your families. Now, why in the world would you go to western countries and not Russia?
Save it, we know why no need to explain. Look at Russia it is in deep, dark, hole economically, financially, and just about everything else.
So, for all of you Serbs who live in western countries... put your money where your mouth is and move to Russia.

All power is in our hands now. If we impose sanctions, it will be a clear sign to Putin that he's not welcome on Balkans until he changes his imperialist ways.

Until that happens, he will keep prodding and eventually hit the West where it hurts, making retaliation necessary, and when that happens, as usual, we'll take all the heat.

When will we get smart?

Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.
(sj, 18 October 2016 11:09)

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1 : Putin got to pay the pensions of the Crimean pensioners using the money from the Russian populace (since Crimea did not contribute anything) and he also got to spend the money and blood of the Russian populace in Syria.

Court it’s not your shqip business to think about our pensioners or the blood we shed. Just remember that after all Putin still enjoys support of 85% Russians who knows it better what is good for them and what is not. Crimeans and Ossetians are our people and we make no difference. Ukraine will be the next.


Vojvodina : When will we get smart?

There’s a Russian film by Nikita Mihalkov СВОЙ СРЕДИ ЧУЖИХ, ЧУЖОЙ СРЕДИ СВОИХ that’s what you are in this forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcifkZWR1cA


Serbian Crusher

Don’t worry about Ari Gold. In her every comment you will find a tactical trading element. In one episode Serbs are brothers with the Russians in some other we are cousins then we are only partners ect. Same line concerning every other neighbor. She believes that having Serbian mother and father is enough to call herself a Serb. Such “Serbians” are worse than dozens of the helpless Vojvodinas and Serbian Crushers. Serbs and Montenegrins are one people and sooner or later Russia will save it. Right now we are too busy in Syria where the main fight against the USA is close to the peak. But we’ll be back to the Balkans that belonged us before 17 century. Even Tirana/Turan is a Russian word.

Putin gets something (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea), even Syria.
(William UK, 18 October 2016 13:14)

Sure, Putin got to pay the pensions of the Crimean pensioners using the money from the Russian populace (since Crimea did not contribute anything) and he also got to spend the money and blood of the Russian populace in Syria. Those are very nice things to get that will definitely help a, say, Russian pensioner feed herself!

I have yet to come across an American analyst who has got it right. Perhaps that is the reason they are bogged down in wars they constantly lose.

A little advice to Server; Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.

Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.
(Serbian Crusher, 18 October 2016 12:52)

Oh good. It can then join Serbia which is already there.
(the actual truth, 18 October 2016 15:18)

What does joining Serbia have to do with Montenegro being (or not being) on the top 10 places to visit?!

Not sure why some people have such an obsession with or needing other countries to join Serbia that can't think of anything else! Does Serbia feel that lonely?!

Putin has more brain in his little pinky than all the Pentagon/White House.
(sj, 18 October 2016 11:09)

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:04)

Well, well our resident idiot opens it mouth and out come a stupid comment
(sj, 18 October 2016 22:40)

Even though you're calling the CE of B92 forums sj idiot and his/her comments stupid, I'm fully convinced that the CE of B92 forums sj is not an idiot, which is why I quoted his/her brilliant insights from his/her analysis of Putin's little pinky!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Serwer is wrong again, as usual. It's the people of Montenegro that will cause problems for Djukanovic because after 3 decades of ruling the country with an iron fist, the people want changes. 60% of voters even in Djukanovic's fake elections voted against him. Let us not forget that most of his voters are public sector workers who are obligated to bring their families to vote for him, Bosniaks from Europe who are paid €250 as caught on video, and Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija who are brought over by Thaci which is of course Djukanovic's partner in crime.

Even the pro-NATO SDP party has joined with the pro-Serb opposition in not recognizing these fake results. Montenegro needs free and fair elections, if this were to happen then Djukanovic would not even cross the census and would likely be in prison.

(Guest, 18 October 2016 11:40)

I hate to burst your bubble but all the world is in a deep dark economic hole mate. The US is 135% of GDP in debt while the UK is 85% and rising. I just returned from the UK and Ireland after a 7 week trip and I can say I would not move there as a lifestyle choice. The average wage is $26,000 US per year while Ireland is much, much worse.
The problem with Albanians is they think this is the 1980s not 2016. One major factor that came out for the reasons of the Brexit vote was due to immigrants who fill their prisons and one main group is the Albanians.

Putin will lose in US too. His 'pal' will lose big time.

The only losers here are in fact Montenegro's Albos who have seen their seats being reduced from an initial 5 to 3 and now to 1, over the last 10 years. So keep up the good job, bros, always vote for Milo, don't vote for Albos. Totally assimilated, Albos, but at least pro Milo, dear bros. Am I wrong Albos? Am I wrong? Btw, could somebody explain the meaning of the Albanian expression 'kiss Milo' (puthuni me Milon) to our enemies the Serbs here? Am I wrong or it means something like 'forget about it, no chance to succeed'? Milo the Great, Milo the Westerner, Milo the Winner!! Heil Milo!!

Millosh, language, history, traditions, and common ethic code should bind Slavs. The same goes for Albanians, be them Albania's Albos, Kosovans, Montenegro's Albos, or Macedonia's Albos. I've re-read Albo major etymologists recently and none of them seems to have the slightest idea on why exactly Albanians called themselves Arvanitet, the Whites, while most of them do agree on the the etymology of the word 'Shqiptar', so Rote has made a major contribution with his clues, providing maybe the only logical explanation ever, they belonged to the White Horde, a generic term became an identifying feature for Albos. You're not brothers? I'd be honored if Rote considered me one of his brothers, same ethic code, same traditions, a lot of expressions and words in common. Advice, the brain was given to mankind in order for us to use it in a proper way, don't misuse the major treasure we have Serbs, do not, for God's sake!

milos shqipic : So we are not, and never will be, your brothers.

ВОЛЬНОМУ ВОЛЯ - НАСИЛЬНО МИЛ НЕ БУДЕШЬ.

The above shqiptare BS has nothing to do with the reality. Slavic tribes composed the Great (Roman, Mongol, Tartar) Horde that conquered the world for some 2-5 centuries. But after the Horde was destroyed from inside by the Prussian Romanovs Slavic peoples were broken into 3 parts. One in their motherland Russia, the other in their motherland Balkans and one in the west of Europe that they have occupied.

Main Slavic happlogroups R and I were artificially divided as R1a and R1b to cover the fact that 90% of Europe is inhabited by the Slavs. And almost the same picture is in the Americas. They could quite use another codification of the happlogroups that appeared 9 years ago. Say R1b could quite be R1a1b but the west cannot afford the Slavs to be united. So they scheduled the happlogroups the way the Slavs would look like what you wrote. I don’t know if you are a victim of the western propaganda or a victim of your shqiptar mother but you hit the target.
This very effect they needed. Same things happened to the “I” happlogroup of the Slavs. 68% of the Serbian happlogroups are same as the Russian. It’s good enough after 450 years of separate life. To say nothing of the Rus spirit that outside the mainland survived only in Serbia. Language differences were increased after Vuk Karadjic took money from the Austrians …

http://haplogroup.narod.ru/russ.html

Montenegro makes it on the top 10 places to visit in the world on the prestigious New York Times travel section.
(Serbian Crusher, 18 October 2016 12:52)

Oh good. It can then join Serbia which is already there.

Are you really as serious as you take yourself?

His 'pal' will lose big time.
(Avni, 18 October 2016 16:06)

His real "pal", Hillary, is up in the polls.

Wooow, I was not aware that you had the distinguished honor to take a look at Putin's little pinky and explore the amount of brain that he has there. Now I understand where your vast knowledge as CE of B92 forums comes from!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:04)

Well, well our resident idiot opens it mouth and out come a stupid comment; what a surprise.

I wish someone would explain to me why anyone listens to dear old Dan......he has been consistently wrong about every major event in the Balkans for more than twenty years.

Drymades

Thanks! I am not a chauvinist you know and I believe that most of the current problems between nations were programmed after 17 century when the single state in the world began to collapse. In some eastern regions of the world it lasted until 1911 when joint forces of Russia, Europe and America covered China with blood. Few decades earlier the Portuguese destroyed another part of the Slavic empire in Japan. In 1775 the biggest state in the world Great Tartaria marked on all the maps and atlases was wiped off and it enabled the USA to appear and it helped Russia reach the Far East. In 1768 Judea was destroyed and was called Siam, now Taiwan … ect. ect.

Under religion pretexts the process was initiated in Europe in 16 century but many parts of the empire resisted the Protestants. Such were the Slavic Bogomils aka Catars in the south of France and Spain, such were the Catalan people, the Spanish and the Portugese. Even Britain resisted before 1650. Balkan peoples also hated the Protestants and so the stick to the Great P-Orta as part of the former empire. It saved them many lives and they had no ethnic conflicts for 400 years.

It also saved many Slavic toponymal in the region including words Khan/Can/Kan, White/Alba/Bal/Bel. Out of 12 survived family trees of Jesus on church walls 10 were saved in the Ottoman empire (Serbia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Georgia) and 2 in Russia. Romanovs were part of Europe but in 19 century the became good Russians.

Not sure why some people have such an obsession
(icj1, 18 October 2016 15:51)
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The lads of Python are rolling with laughter. icj1, the CB of B92, has a pathological obsession with all things Serbian: Be it law, politics, religion, news, elections, history, territorial integrity, contemporary events, entertainment, sports, arts, science, medicine. icj1's 's daily drivel and endless false statements reflect a severe psychosis by a self-diagnosed nihilist glued to his/her keyboard.
icj1's 's hourly postings provide first-hand, direct evidence of "such an obsession".

PS CB = Chief Bigot

(rote, 19 October 2016 08:49)

A child of Serbian descent is Serb! period. Doesn't mean sh*t where it's been born. I am Serb, my wife is Serb, but my children are born on Dutch soil. So are they all of a sudden Dutch? gtfo!

Stop reading fantasy and start reading some genetics, archaeology and etymology, and please don't ridicule yourself.

Furthermore, Slavic nations have nothing in common. Genetically we are not the same people. A Serb is not the same as a Macedon, Croat, Sloven, Slovak, or Russian for that matter.
The only thing that binds us is language; that's all!
So we are not, and never will be, your brothers.

And the Balkans never belonged to you either. Believing in an alternative universe is one thing, but forcing that belief upon the rest of us is pretty insulting and shows lack of intelligence.

No need to thank me Rote, you know me & you & other people here do engage in a silent conversation on different topics, as this is the major contribution we can make to the audience. I admire your total lack of bias re historic issues. I think you and Ari Gold are two of the page's major assets, I personally have learned a lot from both of you.

I think the more interesting point here is that Putin also "lost" in Georgia and Ukraine but everywhere NATO sets foot and Putin "loses", those countries become destabilised and Putin gets something (South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea), even Syria.

The two camps seem quite close, 49% to 51% so Montenegro is ripe for destabilisation. Some will blame Putin, others NATO but the games of divide and conquer are being played out by the big powers.

(icj1, 18 October 2016 16:16)
As sj is the CE of B92 forums then sj declares icj1 to be an albanian idiot. Therefore, we have icj1 confirming that what sj writes is the truth, thus even icj1 concludes that he/she is an idot.

Well said icj1 LOL.