"West can honor will of people in Kosovo, but not in Crimea"

@ rote

No one did in Crimea what the “animals” did in Kosovo.
Kosovo never was a Serbian land even during Yugoslavia. Kosovo was part of Albanian Vilayets during the Ottomans and was an autonomous province in Yugoslavia.
All the Balkan nations know that and all the Europe learn that in history books. Serbs never wanted Kosovo before that Milosevic raised the myth of “holy land”.
We are guilty as death as death. We are guilty because we saved what Serbs themselves in Serbia proper did not saved, all the churches and monasteries in Kosovo in our villages - not in Serbian one.
And now instead (the Orthodox head church) of being grateful to us, it used against us. Do you know that the so called “holy” was and still is in middle of Albanians. Ask yourself why? We did not stole nothing, we did not move from nowhere, we did not kill nobody for that land – we simply were there – you are trying to rob what was and is our.
What a shame you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0fo-Y_QS4

And the same applies to Republika Srpska. I think it's great when Putin exposes Western hypocrisy over their Crimea policy. I wish the Serbian government would do it some more.

Attention ignorant Putin(Slav)

Crimea's ethnic Russian population didn't suffer Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.

Crimea didn't have half of its population illegaly deported at gun point either.

Crimea did suffered mass rapes , total death and destruction from Ukraine.

Putin is trying to compare apples to oranges...

Yugoslavia collapsed and just like the USSR all the Republics went their own ways....
Had Ukraine did what Serbia did then I could agree with Putin.

Serbia murdered over 10,000 Kosovars and kidnapped thousands that were murdered later on and buried in unmarked mass graves throughout Serbia.

Self determination for those in need not in want.

Putin is a clown.

Russia sent in soldiers with no identifying uniforms because Russians are cowards and annexed aka stole Crimea AND made it a part of Russia!

America is just one of multiple countries that comprise NATO who assisted the Kosovar population who is 90% of Kosovos inhabitants in their battle. Kosovars were the ground troops! Kosovo is not the 51st state of America! America never went into Kosovo and claimed the country as their own.

Putin is seriously smoking some good Russian crack to even attempt at drawing a parallel. But hey, you Slavic bums love those authoritarian types telling you what to do.

Azir,

"Self determination for those in need not in want."

Serbs in Krajina were never subjected to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against humanity?
Ever heard of Jasenovac?
But, forget WW2.
Let's compare Albanian minority in Serbia, and Serbian minority in Croatia, shall we?
One (Albanians) had a right to use their own language (for publishing, schools, etc.) See, Koha Ditore, for example.
The other one had their publications and language completely banned (Serbian language and Cyrillic alphabet in Croatia).
They even went as far as to remove every trace of it in Croatian libraries.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5612/slavicreview.72.2.0361?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Croatian Minister of Finance provided funds to the libraries to remove books in "Serbian and similar languages"

And , as far as I know, Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia. Why they don't have a need?

A wolf is a wolf.....
Trying on Sheep clothing but non the less a WOLF!
(Azir, 8 September 2016 20:50)

There is also a saying: An organ harvester is an organ harvester.

The "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Serbia as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".

So Kosovo and Presevo Valley can join Albania with Russian support?

Great! I never would have thought Putin was a supporter of Greater Albania. lol

The problem is simple actually. Kosovo declared independence twice.

The first UDI of Kosovo, at the beginning of war was like Krajina, Srpska Rep, Crimea etc. No one recognized it.

The second one after the war and most of the countries have recognized it.

Why? The second one was after the massacres, after the genocide. So it was justified.

Anyway, i agree with Putin. Kosovo and Presevo Valley should have the right to vote for unification with Albania just like Crimea.

serbian history like the Greek mythology

Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".
(Paul, 8 September 2016 23:13)

Lets forget your cheap propaganda and fairy tail history. Putin does not seem to agree with you and is asking for the west to recognize crimea if he recognizes Kosovo.

So much for your slavic brotherhood.

This was said to Dacic by Nuland
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You know, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland told me that the United States has been investing in Kosovo's independence for about 20 years. I wondered how this was possible, considering that Washington then supported the sovereignty of Serbia. She replied: 'Yes, it is true that we support the sovereignty of Serbia, but without Kosovo'.
*
You can see how messed up the US and West really are. They instigated conflict in the region to meet their agenda, which was to slice up Serbia and Yugoslavia. They never did win the peace and it looks like another round of conflict is on its way, this time with an EU in crisis and a resurgent Russia.

Kosovo became independent before Crimea. You were against Kosovo's independence. Now you can shut up or complain as much as you want.

So Russia can honor the will of the people in Crimea, but not in Kosovo? See how this can work both ways?

I always said it. Russia would recognize Kosovo in an instant. The question is only what they`ll ask in return. Looks like they found something they want to trade in for Kosovo. Crimea.

(rote, 9 September 2016 21:23)

Dude, your Fomenko crap is getting boring. There are more people who believe that the Chonicles of Narnia is real than the Fantasy History of Fomenko.

Please stop with your fairy tails. You are insulting everybodys intellect here. Even the intellect of most serb nationalist and yugo-fetishists. The bar is very low but time after time you manage to lower it with the new chronology of bullshitism.

Pocesta is now an expert in the classics. There is no end to this guys talent.What field of human endeavour will he next share his knowledge and expertise in with us?

Please provide aleast one Serb "victim" that is missing his organ (brain).

Just because the entire serb population is brainless followers of aggression is no fault of Albanians,Croats or Bosnians.

Prove what you allege or else you will continue to embarass yourself crying wolf when in reality it is you Serbs that are evil and the greatest threat to peace and stability.

What else is new?
Will of some should be respected, will of the others ignored!
Just to stay in former Yugoslavia...
Republics can't be divided, then again, some can be divided (Serbia).
Actions speak louder then words. With mouths full of equal rights, and such...carry policy of supremacy of one over another.

Oh this clown again. Is Russia honoring the will of people in Kosovo? We declared independence way before Russia annexed and forced a rigged referendum in Crimea.

So by his logic, Crimea should not be part of Russia, it should be an attempt to newly form a self standing state.

Gjon Marku: No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer.

I KNOW THAT !
YET THE QUESTIONS WERE VERY SIMPLE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THUS YOU HEREBY SIGN THAT YOU HAVE NO PROVEN HISTORY.
BUT IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT 14-17 CENTURIES HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ANCIENT TIMES?
(rote, 12 September 2016 10:07)

Oh, no one will answer your easy questions because you dont deserve an answer on that topic.

We know our history.

The only reason I reply to you posts is because I like to mock you and your made up history classes. You always make me laugh because you really believe the stuff you write, dont you? Poor little ruski. Once an empire, now subject of mockery from everyone. No matter how important you were, dont forget how little you are now.

Putin is ackowledging Kosova's Independence but also envious Crimea's isn't also as Universaly supported!

Two very different situations...

Two different outcomes...

The "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Serbia as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".
(Paul, 8 September 2016 23:13)

Yes and according to your logic... the "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Rome as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Serbs flooding across Serb borders and out breeding Romans in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".

(rote, 10 September 2016 17:23)

Its not beyond my understanding because everything fomenko says has been already proven as fiction. Pseudo sience has been around for longer than fomenko. You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories let a lone find a majority. Not in the west, not in the east not even in russia. If the amount of books was somehow a criteria, then let me remind you that kim jong il wrote more than 1000. describing how his dad was born by light at the foot of a holy mountain.

Again, fomenko and his bullshitism never managed to convince any historian ever.

"It is all very near now, very soon the USA will understand the consequences..."

That reads like a Harry Potter fantasy the way you write Dragolub Jerk-ovic. Has anyone noticed that it's always Serbians that write as if they are piecing together a novel or folklore? Always silly talk about "Eastern Orthodox" this and that and "the almighty God" "fire and brinstone". What the hell is wrong with you people? Why are you such religious fanatics?

I have a story for you: God doesn't love you. If God loved you he wouldn't have awarded the victory of the Kosovo battle to the Albanians. Lol!!

@screten:

Shqiptares are INDIGENOUS.

Slavs invaded and over stayed their unwelcomed occupation...

Kosova is over 90% pure and has been even before the 6/7 Century Slav invasion.

Putin is ackowledging Kosova's Independence but also envious Crimea's isn't also as Universaly supported!

Two very different situations...

Two different outcomes...

Happy donkey-ride, but never forget the ones who provide your burro with the food; a dead donkey = no donkey ride.

I am sorry to speak to you from a high horse; our horses grew higher than your donkeys ;-)
(Ataman, 12 September 2016 17:03)

As donkey riders we manage to survive the ottoman empire, fascist italy, nationalist Germany, communist Yugoslavia and genocidal Serbia.

You went from having everything to loosing everything. Looks like your high horse is not worth the meat while my donkey got me everything we ever asked for. Now excuse me while enjoy freedom with my burro.

There are thousands of Ethnic Russians in Brighton Beach Brooklyn NY sould they also need self determination?

What about the thousands of Ethnic Serbs in Chicago do they deserve a Municipality of Serb Communities??

Putin thinking is illogical at best ...

Would anyone support Trump ethnicly cleansing US of these two monorities??

As Serbia did through the 90's????

I have a proposal for Mr. Putin, President of Russia. I can put together 10 Albanians who can go with helicopter on Vatican while the Pope is visiting Beograd and they can manage to find that hidden underground labyrinth Rote mentioned to me and find the proofs for what he writes. Greeks can also help us on this as they have helped many Albanians escape with helicopters from greek prisons. Will you Mr. Putin President of Russia recognize Kosova then? We can make a deal on this if you agree.

Putin does not seem to agree with you and is asking for the west to recognize crimea if he recognizes Kosovo. So much for your slavic brotherhood.
(Gjon Marku, 9 September 2016 07:22)

Crimea or any other part of the Russian soil is not discussed or bargained. For such discussions we have armed forces of 2 700 00 men including 1 200 000 in the army. As for the sanctions of the West Russia has not moved a finger to remove them. Only the finance and the technologies sanctions really harm us while all others are in our favor you know. Prices for the Crimea realty has doubled last 18 months. Many Russians rushed to buy flats and houses in this Holy Land. I remember in 1944 the new commander of the 17-th army of Wehrmacht saying : SOLDIERS NO OTHER CITY IS PRONOUNCED BY THE RUSSIANS WITH SUCH AN EXCITIMENT AS SEVASTOPOL. Little has changed ever since though not all Russians know of the treasure sites of the Russian church on the peninsula. But Putin knows it very well as he silently supports the New Chronology of Fomenko&Co. That’s why he took the risk of the confrontation for the sake of the ancient churches of ours. From this point Kosovo and Crimea are alike as they both are the cradles of the Rus people no matter how they call themselves for the time being. It will not be said openly but Kosovo has the same underground as the Crimea so Russia will be involved directly. And it may be good for both sides I think as Russia is a better intermediator than NATO.

Attention Ignorant Slav serbs:

If it was up to Putin serbs would be thrown under the bus for exchanging Crimeian Independence for Kosova into the UN.

And probably a Kosovar as UN President to top it off😍

Rote you are Moot...
You talk nonsense and no one cares...

What ever happened to "Slavic Brotherhood and Unity"? Ha ha

In reality... its about self interest!
America defends our freedom where as Serbs feeling home sick from Ukraine/Russian mountain cave homes need to lick Putin ass for support...

Sad truth is no one likes evil slav serb war criminals...not even your master Putin!

@Sreten:

You easily forget what serbs did to
Slovenia
Croatia
Bosnia and
Kosova

Remember Krajina??

You can't somehow "justify" your current criminality with what happdned in Jasenovic almost a Century ago.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Serbs aren't Indigenous.

Slav Serbia must understand native's right supercede all.

Infamous historic serb aggression makes it hard to accept serb "victim" story ( allegation) (retaliation!?)

Serbia's pattern of criminality is proven over and over again...

A wolf is a wolf.....
Trying on Sheep clothing but non the less a WOLF!

SHQIPTARS !
START ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE MANY MORE.
"POOR COMMENT" VOTING WON'T HELP YOU.
SO WE SHALL SEE WHICH OF US IS ALBANIAN.
I WILL PLACE HERE albanian toponymal ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK HELPLESS AND MISERABLE.
BECAUSE YOU TEASED ME TOO LONG.
GARDEZ!
(rote, 11 September 2016 23:32)

Poor little rote, just as delusional as his hero Fomenko. No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer. When everything is a lie and all is made up, whats there to answer?

You are interesed in history? Then start reading history books and stop reading sci-fi novels.

I’ll tell you a story about Crimea that will unite Serbs and the Whites :

In early 1152 near Yaroslavl city there was an event that we have the earliest written documents. There was a great wedding of the ruling Byzantine Emperor family’s member and a young Rus princess from Byzantine province (fem) of Galich Kostromskoy. The Romey bridegroom’s name was Isaak Komnin but his Bible name was Joseph. He was a Sevastocrator i.e. second important man in the world after the Emperor of the Byzantine. The Russian bride’s name was Maria. They spent several months in Volga region and started for the Byzantine also known as Jerusalem, Troy, Tsargrad ect. When they reached Crimea Maria delivered a boy and they called him Andronicus and he could claim for the throne. Place in Fiolent where in a cave he was born later became saint and they called it Sevastopol. The oldest church of the Birth of Christ is there. Emperor of Byzantine Manuil Komnin (Bible Irod) had other plans for the throne. So he sent people to kill the boy but the Russian Tsar family Magi have warned the Saint Family and the run to Volga region (Egypt) where the boy spent most of his life. In 1182 the boy became the Emperor of the Byzantine and ruled there for 3 years. Andronicus I Komnin surrounded himself with close people from Volga region. Other Komnins were deprived of their former incomes. So they arranged a plot and tortured him to death. After his death Greeks called him Crucified Prophet = Jesus Christ.

I always said it. Russia would recognize Kosovo in an instant. The question is only what they`ll ask in return. Looks like they found something they want to trade in for Kosovo. Crimea.

(Gjon Marku, 8 September 2016 19:51)


Last week Putin yold the PM of Japan :"WE DON'T TRADE OUR LANDS." I guess this formula is as good for KIM too. And it's quite evident " what they`ll ask in return" - it will be the Kosovo lands of ours. I personally believe it must be rationally divided between us and the Whites. We have nowhere to hurry up but Serbs in Mitrovica may think different.

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 09:30)

Sure, whatever floats your boat. You are entiteled to believe whatever you want. Words are for free.

Joni,

we all know what "animals" did in Kosovo.

BRITISH Parliamentary Committee Report. I'm stressing British before you all start screaming "Serbian propaganda!!!"

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmfaff/28/2807.htm#a7

"25. The KLA or UCK (Ushtria Climtare e Kosoves) first publicly announced itself in February 1996 by launching an attack in northern Kosovo on Krajina Serb refugees. There followed several more attacks upon Serb police and civilians. In an open letter to the BBC in June that year, the KLA claimed responsibility for killing six Serbs—three policemen and three civilians..."

First attack was on Krajina Serb refugees on Feb 22nd, 1996. Let me describe it to you. KLA members threw hand grenades through the windows of a housing for refugees. 9 women and children died, 6 were injured.
Then they claimed responsibility for killing of 3 policemen and 3 CIVILIANS.
That's what animals did, Joni, in Kosovo. Started killing CIVILIANS, women and children!

The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 16:13)

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Crimea
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 11 September 2016 16:21)

The truth is we already have Kosova.

JONI : Serbs never wanted Kosovo before that Milosevic raised the myth of “holy land”.

We all know how things developed after the USA began to “invest in Kosovo” 20 years ago so don’t hang those spaghetti on my ears please! As for the Holy Land Slobo was more than right but I disagree when Serbs say that Kosovo is the Serbian Holy land only. First because in early 17 century when the Great Horde disintegrated we were one people. This is why we have Russian names for every church or monastery not only in KIM but in other parts of Serbia. They differ a bit from the Serbian versions that is not traditional for our church. It means that the Russian names appeared together or even earlier than the Serbian ones. At least I think that before 17 century Serbs had no history other than the Russian one. See where’s the first mentioning of the Kosovo Battle – in the Russian Litsevoy Letopisni Svod of Ivan the Great! And so are many toponymal here. Thus Russia is a player in Kosovo. To say nothing that in 1389 both sides were composed mostly of the Rus people and our Great Kniaz/Khan Dmitry I aka Murad I aka Constantine I was killed here. His dead body was mummified and buried near Cairo together with his relatives known as pharaohs. I am to sweet the end of this comment by admitting that not only Rus/Slavs prayed here but most likely all other folks including the Greeks and your ancestors. So the problem of the Shqips in this Holy Land appeared only after WW2 …

Gjon Marku : The bar is very low but time after time you manage to lower it with the new chronology of bullshitism.

If something is beyond your understanding it does not mean that you are right. So best if you tell me what exactly is wrong in my comments and how you can prove it. Say I would like to hear your version of word Albanians and how can you explain the toponymal in dozens of far away places in America, Africa and Asia? Also tell me why you believe that Skanderbeu was a Shqiptar and how come that you belonged to the 3 mentioned Milliets of the Ottomans? What evidence do you have of the events that compose the history of your people? Unlike Fomenko who has wrote 42 books to prove his version your fairy are sand made. By privatizing Russian word ALBAN/WHITE you try to steal part of our history where your ancestors never played a significant role. as the Shqips were just soldiers of the Slavic Horde. That’s why I don’t mind using our umbrella trademark but please do not privatize it.

Hey Serbian Crusher!

I am very proud of my name and also of my Serbian Heritage, how about you, who the hell are you and what is your real name you coward? All you Albo and Croat cowards posting on this Serbian English version web site, you are the ones full of crap! Even in my advanced age when I come accross scum like your self in the out side world you back off from me little degenerate runt cowards! The USA will not be in a position to support the Devil much longer, USA is going down to the pitt's of Hell! Zivila Srbija I Ziveo sav Srpski Rod!!!

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Crimea

Kosovo is governed by the Constitutional framework for provisional self-government in Kosovo that UNMIK has promulgated under UNSCR 1244. That constitutional framework states that Kosovo is an undivided territory.
...what matters is what UNMIK says not what Sebia Albania, Zimbabwe (or whatever) says!
(icj1, 13 September 2016 20:54)

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icj1, the CB of B92, should realize that KiM is an undivided portion of a larger contiguous territory whose integrity is reaffirmed in UNSCR 1244.

This principle of territorial integrity is consistent with the Serbian constitution which also includes KiM as an undivided and integral part of Serbian territory. We're glad that the CB of B92, icj1, recognizes this large contiguous undivided territory as "what matters" as written in UNSCR 1244.

icj1 wishes to emphasize his/her ignorance of the Serbian constitution. Perhaps the CB of B92, icj1, should not only read the reaffirmation of territorial integrity on page 2 of UNSCR 1244, but they should consult a tutor who may explain the contents of Annex 2 sec 8. Perhaps a grade 6 level tutor may explain to icj1 that Annex 2 sec 8 refers to the "framework" and further entrenches the principle of territorial integrity.

After all, what UNSCR 1244 says, is "what matters". Finally, another absolute is that icj1's warped illogic, idiotic inferences, and "factually incorrect" interpretations certainly DON'T matter.

PS CB=Chief Bigot

Joni: Kosovo never was a Serbian land

I am not a newcomer here to tell me what Kosovo was. Besides you do know that I have a special vision of the history and even of the words like Albania ( Whites, White Horde), Serbia (Sjabria), Balkans (White Khans), Belgrade (City of the Whites), Tirana (Turana), Kosovo Field (Hayfield), Ottoman (Ataman), Osman (Rosman), Roman (Russian), Great Porta (Great P-Orda) ect. Should Balkan peoples know their history better they would not fight one another so severe. Serbs and the Whites were all Whites till late 16 century when the Great Horde was exploded from inside. Serbs and Shqips belong to the same civilization and culture no matter how the speak or how they pray.


Joni: Kosovo was part of Albanian Vilayets

I dobt it very much that the Shqiptars had their own Velayets there. All because you weren’t one nation during the Ottomans. You were several tribes that spoke close languages but belonged to 3 different Milliets (nations) out of the 4 main. So some of the Shqiptars belonged to the same milliet as the Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgars ect. (Milliet-i Rum), some to the same as the Croats (Milliet-i Capholic) and some to where the Bosniaks, Turks, Arabs ect. belonged (Milliet-i Muslimin). That’s why after Shqips became free they faced the problem of self-identification that is not solved yet. You are neither birds nor the whites. I am grateful to you that you saved the name of the Albanians so I'll tell you their story some day.

It is all very near now, very soon the USA will understand the consequences regarding it's major participation in the murdering of Jugoslavia and the murder of Eastern Orthodox Slavic Christianity in the Balkans! The days now passing quickly and the redemptions nearing so sweetly! The USA acting like some sort of Mortal God, only one Divine God in Heaven!!!

Yes and according to your logic...
(icj1, 9 September 2016 16:14)
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icj1, the CB of B92, forces readers to pause ...
and realize that icj1's connection to any logic is tenuous at best. icj1 is the individual that associates a neurological disorder with an ethnic group. Nonsense and illogic from icj1 run supreme.

(rote, 11 September 2016 17:22
Im very glad and hopefully more people exists like you... more like you=Serbia longer in shit hole remember again Nazis killed and destroyed a way more as Serbia did after realizing what they did they start fresh acknowledge the damage they did and hey they start exporting they car's les in ten years guess where you are after 26 years they say also until you don't accept your mistake and being a ignorant you will get NOTHING.... WHEN YOU SAY SORRY AND PAY FOR YOU MISTAKE everything slowly good thinks will develop in your side so in the end Slavic are born believing fairy tails and lie's and that is very hard to understand the very truth of the being honest in this life

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244
(icj1, 12 September 2016 20:40)

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icj1, the CB of B92, fails to understand the text of most published documents. Last week the CB of B92 had idiotic and factually incorrect claims about the California constitution. The CB of B92 may wish to consult the Sebian Constitution and also the exact wording of UNSC1244 Annex 2 and note the reference to terroritirial integrity.

PS CB=Chief Bigot

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Ctimea.

Serbian Crisher : If God loved you he wouldn't have awarded the victory of the Kosovo battle to the Albanians.

ЦЫПЛЯТ ПО ОСЕНИ СЧИТАЮТ … So it’s not a victory but a trap that you have stepped in so wait for the respond.


the truth : Putin was very blunt

FOR SUCH A CONCLUSION YOU MUST HAVE BRAINS OF YOUR OWN.


Azir : If it was up to Putin serbs would be thrown under the bus for exchanging Crimeian Independence for Kosova

PUTIN KNOWS ONLY THE ORIGINAL SERBIAN NAME OF THE REGION.

Gjon Marku : You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories let a lone find a majority. Not in the west, not in the east not even in russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPiTICHghIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-UZNbXIF2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiE-GVgPZs&list=PLIuKr6gb77OWr0de7tumrxFQhwlq-BRsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2kVP_pD6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Cfq7IX4Zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOdNvsN4zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6v5R3Lpms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8WUaHe5S0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUPbjdHeMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1EAT75KXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH3_DRhx8iU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qjZIuuSjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVo1loY6Vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWMJQ-JKMXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvG7G2IUpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiE-GVgPZs&list=PLIuKr6gb77OWr0de7tumrxFQhwlq-BRsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qul-4NhHHbo

FEW QUESTIONS TO THE SHQIPTARS

1/ Who and when called you Shqiptars first in a written form ?

2/ What makes you think that mediaeval Albanians were not Russians?

3/ Why do you believe that ГЕОРГИЙ ИСКАНДЕР БЕК was a Shqiptar?

3/ How could Skanderbeu resist Mehmet-2 the Fatih who seized territory of 100 current Albanias with his miserable 300 sabres?

4/ Why Muslims and the Christians did not execute him each time he was betraying his belief?

5/ Do you know interpretation of word ALBANIAN other than WHITE aka Beli aka Bali aka Alb aka Elb ect.?

6/ Do you admit that Tirana (TRN) and Russian word Turan (TRN) is the same word?

7/ Do you know that for +/- 400 years Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic Shqiptars belonged to 3 different nations (milliets) of the Ottomans?

8/ Do you understand that after the White (Albanian) Horde took the upper hand in the civil war of 1370-1415 and the Golden Horde stopped to exist your far away ancestors had only one chance to survive by joining the Whites?

9/ Can you see that most of the toponymal in the region ( Tirana, Serbia, Belgrade, Albania, Balkan, Ottoman, Osman, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Thessaloniki, Istanbul, Black Sea, Hungary, Raska, Kosovo pole ect.) have Russian roots?

10/ Do you think that by insulting me you can shut me up and I’ll stop revealing the truth?

BE READY FOR THE NEXT 10 QUESTIONS TO APPEAR!

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.

Атаман

Угра, Угория, Балатон, орсаг (государство), оршаг (русский) и т.п. Кроме того, угры пришли в Европу в составе русской орды. И , кстати, были очень нам верны веками. Я даже подозреваю, что Буда и Будда это одно и то же слово, а значит оно русское. Можем поговорить.


Justhetruth

The truth depends on the chapel you are looking at it. I personally believe that all peoples of the peninsula are victims of the US operation while Serbs are the biggest victim. Their fate was cruel for them last 1000 years you know. Should things develop in a more peaceful way there would be at least 20 million of Serbs now. I don’t say that they were innocent but they were the only side who defended the legal state of the once prospering Yugoslavia. If Serbs withstand the pressure they will help their neighbors to tear their chains I believe. Just like it was during WW1 and WW2. In WW2 there was only one resistance movement in Europe and it was mostly composed of the Serbs including their Montenegrin branch of course. All other peoples sucked with great pleasure to survive. But sucking has never been a Serbian way so they suffer again and again. While the others suck again and again.


Gjon Marku: No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer.

I KNOW THAT !
YET THE QUESTIONS WERE VERY SIMPLE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THUS YOU HEREBY SIGN THAT YOU HAVE NO PROVEN HISTORY.
BUT IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT 14-17 CENTURIES HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ANCIENT TIMES?

The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 16:13)

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244
(icj1, 12 September 2016 20:40)

consult the Sebian Constitution
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 13 September 2016 02:52)

Well, Kosovo is governed by the Constitutional framework for provisional self-government in Kosovo that UNMIK has promulgated under UNSCR 1244. That constitutional framework states that Kosovo is an undivided territory. If you are unhappy with that, please feel free to contact UNMIK :)

Not sure though why we should consult the Sebian, Albanian, Zimbabwean (or whatever) constitution since UNMIK is in control in Kosovo and what matters is what UNMIK says not what Sebia, Albania, Zimbabwe (or whatever) says!

Gjon Marku

everything fomenko says has been already proven as fiction

SEVERAL SAMPLES PLEASE

You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories

WHAT ABOUT SIR ISAAK NEWTON WHO WROTE A SPECIAL BOOK ABOUT THE WRONG CHRONOLOGY?

Your children will be studying history of Fomenko as the amount of facts that discredit the current history is increasing in geometric proportion. If not explain me word ALBANIANS if you can. Also tell me how could Skanderbeu stand against Mehmet II Fatih if Fatih means THE CONQUEROR? How come that Skanderbeu and his parents and his wife and his multiple children ALL HAD SLAVIC NAMES? How could it be that he was a Christian then a Muslim and then a Christian again if religious treason was punished with death penalty everywhere? If you still insist that you are smarter than my ass I am ready to put you lots of questions of the kind.

"Thinking of Crimea, they choose not to notice that the will of the Crimean people, 70 percent of which are ethnic Russians and the rest speak Russian as their native language, was to join Russia. They prefer to ignore this. In one place, in Kosovo, the will of the people can be honored, but here - it cannot. All of this is about political games," Putin has been quoted as saying.

Putin was very blunt, and Serbian Blic reported correctly, but die hard serbs on this site tend to play dumb and write their own version. Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.

Rote the bad joke:

Albanian is a Western word to describe Shqiptare....us.

The Ottoman Empire occupied our lands and outlawed our language and yet we never forgot our language....

Even if the Ocuppiers made it a criminal offence to write In Albanian or Shqip.

I told you before we are INDIGENOUS,unique,original natives nothing to do with any SLAVS!

Please dont insult us!

Russia/Ukrianian/Serb same or similar DNA.

We remain independent,original non-slav contanminate,pure and proud.

SHQIPTARS !
START ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE MANY MORE.
"POOR COMMENT" VOTING WON'T HELP YOU.
SO WE SHALL SEE WHICH OF US IS ALBANIAN.
I WILL PLACE HERE albanian toponymal ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK HELPLESS AND MISERABLE.
BECAUSE YOU TEASED ME TOO LONG.
GARDEZ!

Je¿ wêgierski, rosyjski i amerykañski

History of the mankind is the family story of one ruling dynasty of the Romeos. When the Byzantine fell during the single real Crusader War in 1204 members of the Family abandoned Constantinople. Some went to Europe (Angels) some to Africa and some to Asia. All of them were sure that the whole world belongs to them and to nobody else. But only the Romeos that flew to Russia succeeded in reviving (in a way) the old empire. Those were Aeneas and his descendants known here as Rurikovici. And they never concealed their Mesopotamian (in fact Egyptian) roots but always boasted them! If you look at their portraits you will find that they didn’t look very much of the Russians but rather had Semite appearance. For 2 centuries after Jesus (= Prophet) Christ (= Crucified) died Royal version of Christianity dominated in the family and the whole world that they controlled since mid-14 century. But then in 1370-1415 the Apostolic branch of the Rurikovici (White Horde) destroyed the Royal (Golden Horde) one. They seized the remaining world including both Americas (Ameri Can), Africa (Afri Can) and Asia (land of the As people). The remaining Royal Christianity Rurikovici went to Indochina and India where they transformed Christianity to Buddhism, Krishna’s, and Hinduism. Old name of Tailand was Judea. So there were no Avars as a separate power but a Slavic Horde that seized the world in 14-17 centuries.

Dear Slavic Brother ROTE !

Today Sunday a time to celebrate we Slavs in peace with God!

For all my Slavic Brothers out there take time to enjoy this moment and day!

Check out some good Slavic music, Momcilo Stanojevic ( Komarac Kolo, Vlasko Kolo ), it's just a few melodies from the Serbian Balkans, hope you all enjoy the day!!! God Bless the Slavic Brotherhood, Zivilo Pravoslavlje!!!!

1) Not older than 200 years ago, AFAIK.

2) I visited churches in Kastoria, Bukovina, Pskov, Novgorod. Shquip and Romanians seem to have closer kinship than Shquip and Russians or Romanians and Russians.


3) He wanted to be. He was of Serbian-Hellene origin, but representing the interests of local tribes makes you, I guess, local.


4) See King Leonidas of Sparta vs. Xerxes.



5) He wasn't executed because he was smart to know, when to fight, when to negotiate. Applies to every medieval ruler who died of natural cause.


6) Arbari, Arbes, Arvan, Arvanitica, blah-blah-blah, million versions. It's AFAIK a name of a local mountain tribe. 



7) Nope, Albanian language and Albanians have nothing to do with Turanian tribes.



8) Albanians served both Ottmans and Tsar Empire. They were fierce warriors.

9) The White / Golden / etc. Horde Alternative history is not supported by me.

10) Please explain the toponym Ishtar Gam ("Fortess of Goddes Ishtar in the River Bend") in Russian. You will have better luck in Shumerian (or some weird Caucasian languages)

11) Please find Ishtar Gam on the map. Google is your friend. The result #3 from the search is what I mean.

12) The Shumerians never called their language Shumerian. It was called "Eme Gir" ("language of aristocracy"). What native nation name does "Eme Gir" resembles?

13) I am not insulting you ;-)

14) I am not saying that "Megyer" = "Eme Gir". It's more complicated than that.

The way I see this "Eme Gir" issue is that there never was a "Hun" or "Hungarian" or "Schythian" nation.

Instead, there was a very wealthy clan which made it's money by lapis lazuri trade. They controlled the trade and the lingua franca was derivative of Shumerian as originally the Shumerian traders controlled that route.

This clan got it's name and the name of it's language from "Eme Gir". It wasn't a big clan, but they could amass an amazing number of followers each time they decided to go on conquest.

Of course these Schythians / Huns / Avars / Hungarians were a huge mix with a large number of followers speaking Germanic, Slavonic or Turkic languages. But it was always a "special" tribe (or should we say "clan") at the leadership which spoke their own language. Each of these confederations was made the way to "cement" the role of that clan. It wasn't a democracy.

At the end they managed to force their language on the followers. This is how the language survived and this is why it is such a puzzle.

And of course - at every occasion - the central clan rarely if ever failed to mention their supposed "mesopotamian" roots, be it correct or not. So in some sense they are indeed mesopotamians… at least they wanted to be since ever. And the name of the nation + language + everything today still has that "Eme Gir" root. Even they swear in Shumerian ("Fasz", "Fos", etc.)

Of course, Hungary has Russian (Germanic, Celtic, Roman) toponymes. But the old capital (Esztergom) had to have a Mesopotamian toponyme, being dedicated to Our Lady (Boldogasszony, which is Ishtar, later to became Mary).

Otherwise the main objectives of the confederation was always:

- underscore the priority of Árpád's own clan (the only one of many being called "Megyer", the rest had all kind of other names) and their "special" role in history, pre-dating the Bible

- encourage the mingling and blood exchange between the clans, conquered and possible allies

- spreading the language "of the very few" to everyone by marriage / childbirth / peer pressure

We do not mind to sleep with enemies ;-)

BTW: Russians did the same.

>>> "Можем поговорить."

I guess, I am the only "Albanian" who tried to answer and argue with you other way than insulting.

I am in Moscow end of September again. Coffee... I like espresso, the stronger the better. Alternative: a tea brew called "1001 ночь", no sugar (diabetes here).

We know our history.
(Gjon Marku, 12 September 2016 10:32)

Yes, it's easy-peasy.

The bottom line: the arts, the science, the military power, the philosophy tends to sleep with each other, make children and their children then tend to sleep with each other. This is working for the last 6000 years or so.

Be them Shumers, Jews, Parthians, Chinese, Mongols, Slavs, Germans and so on.

Normally you grow up in a family which is able to either buy the Planet Earth or to destroy it. ;-)

Serbs, Croats, Slovenes are up to the challenge.

The donkey-rider organ-harvest primitive mountain tribes have to align and sing the tune played by the above. But: you have to understand the rule of your overlord. What is not going to work: "I want to harvest organs and ride my donkey - but still be pro-American".

Happy donkey-ride, but never forget the ones who provide your burro with the food; a dead donkey = no donkey ride.

I am sorry to speak to you from a high horse; our horses grew higher than your donkeys ;-)

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 09:30)

Sure, whatever floats your boat. You are entiteled to believe whatever you want. Words are for free.
(Gjon Marku, 12 September 2016 10:10)

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The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
On another note about words: what happened to your prediction that the fenced-in residents of KiM would have visa-free access to the EU?

Je¿

Real history of the Balkan peoples starts in 19-20 centuries only and nobody is an exclusion. False history was developed by two French Jesuits in 16-17 centuries. I believe that the Shqiptars could be one of the Albanians but it wasn’t an ethnical union. Albanians were the Whites i.e. military representatives of the White Russian Horde. Russians were formed as a nation in 18-19 century. Before that there were several very big Russian or Russian headed states all over the world. The Russia we know was part of the western civilization. Those were Sobakini-Yurievi aka Romanovi who seized state power in Moscow in 1613. Backed by Germany and other Europeans they step by step conquered most of the Russian states in current Russia, Asia and America. Serbs knew only this Germany led Russia while the Albanias as a military power stopped to exist. But Osman/Ottoman Horde survived and became a good shelter for all Balkan peoples. It was a part of the Whites/Albanians so they remained loyal to the memory of the Great Horde and hated the Romanovs. They fought 17 times the Romanovs but not Russia. Because they had very good relations with other Russian states like the Independent Horde in Central Asia, the Great Tartaria in Siberia and America, Japan, Pegaya Tartaria around Pegin/Bejing, China, Great Mogolia. Kastrioti could be an Albanian but he could not be a Shqiptar.

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Attention ignorant Putin(Slav)

Crimea's ethnic Russian population didn't suffer Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.

Crimea didn't have half of its population illegaly deported at gun point either.

Crimea did suffered mass rapes , total death and destruction from Ukraine.

Putin is trying to compare apples to oranges...

Yugoslavia collapsed and just like the USSR all the Republics went their own ways....
Had Ukraine did what Serbia did then I could agree with Putin.

Serbia murdered over 10,000 Kosovars and kidnapped thousands that were murdered later on and buried in unmarked mass graves throughout Serbia.

Self determination for those in need not in want.

@screten:

Shqiptares are INDIGENOUS.

Slavs invaded and over stayed their unwelcomed occupation...

Kosova is over 90% pure and has been even before the 6/7 Century Slav invasion.

serbian history like the Greek mythology

Putin is a clown.

Russia sent in soldiers with no identifying uniforms because Russians are cowards and annexed aka stole Crimea AND made it a part of Russia!

America is just one of multiple countries that comprise NATO who assisted the Kosovar population who is 90% of Kosovos inhabitants in their battle. Kosovars were the ground troops! Kosovo is not the 51st state of America! America never went into Kosovo and claimed the country as their own.

Putin is seriously smoking some good Russian crack to even attempt at drawing a parallel. But hey, you Slavic bums love those authoritarian types telling you what to do.

And the same applies to Republika Srpska. I think it's great when Putin exposes Western hypocrisy over their Crimea policy. I wish the Serbian government would do it some more.

So Kosovo and Presevo Valley can join Albania with Russian support?

Great! I never would have thought Putin was a supporter of Greater Albania. lol

The problem is simple actually. Kosovo declared independence twice.

The first UDI of Kosovo, at the beginning of war was like Krajina, Srpska Rep, Crimea etc. No one recognized it.

The second one after the war and most of the countries have recognized it.

Why? The second one was after the massacres, after the genocide. So it was justified.

Anyway, i agree with Putin. Kosovo and Presevo Valley should have the right to vote for unification with Albania just like Crimea.

Please provide aleast one Serb "victim" that is missing his organ (brain).

Just because the entire serb population is brainless followers of aggression is no fault of Albanians,Croats or Bosnians.

Prove what you allege or else you will continue to embarass yourself crying wolf when in reality it is you Serbs that are evil and the greatest threat to peace and stability.

Joni: Kosovo never was a Serbian land

I am not a newcomer here to tell me what Kosovo was. Besides you do know that I have a special vision of the history and even of the words like Albania ( Whites, White Horde), Serbia (Sjabria), Balkans (White Khans), Belgrade (City of the Whites), Tirana (Turana), Kosovo Field (Hayfield), Ottoman (Ataman), Osman (Rosman), Roman (Russian), Great Porta (Great P-Orda) ect. Should Balkan peoples know their history better they would not fight one another so severe. Serbs and the Whites were all Whites till late 16 century when the Great Horde was exploded from inside. Serbs and Shqips belong to the same civilization and culture no matter how the speak or how they pray.


Joni: Kosovo was part of Albanian Vilayets

I dobt it very much that the Shqiptars had their own Velayets there. All because you weren’t one nation during the Ottomans. You were several tribes that spoke close languages but belonged to 3 different Milliets (nations) out of the 4 main. So some of the Shqiptars belonged to the same milliet as the Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgars ect. (Milliet-i Rum), some to the same as the Croats (Milliet-i Capholic) and some to where the Bosniaks, Turks, Arabs ect. belonged (Milliet-i Muslimin). That’s why after Shqips became free they faced the problem of self-identification that is not solved yet. You are neither birds nor the whites. I am grateful to you that you saved the name of the Albanians so I'll tell you their story some day.

I always said it. Russia would recognize Kosovo in an instant. The question is only what they`ll ask in return. Looks like they found something they want to trade in for Kosovo. Crimea.

Oh this clown again. Is Russia honoring the will of people in Kosovo? We declared independence way before Russia annexed and forced a rigged referendum in Crimea.

@Sreten:

You easily forget what serbs did to
Slovenia
Croatia
Bosnia and
Kosova

Remember Krajina??

You can't somehow "justify" your current criminality with what happdned in Jasenovic almost a Century ago.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Serbs aren't Indigenous.

Slav Serbia must understand native's right supercede all.

Infamous historic serb aggression makes it hard to accept serb "victim" story ( allegation) (retaliation!?)

Serbia's pattern of criminality is proven over and over again...

A wolf is a wolf.....
Trying on Sheep clothing but non the less a WOLF!

JONI : Serbs never wanted Kosovo before that Milosevic raised the myth of “holy land”.

We all know how things developed after the USA began to “invest in Kosovo” 20 years ago so don’t hang those spaghetti on my ears please! As for the Holy Land Slobo was more than right but I disagree when Serbs say that Kosovo is the Serbian Holy land only. First because in early 17 century when the Great Horde disintegrated we were one people. This is why we have Russian names for every church or monastery not only in KIM but in other parts of Serbia. They differ a bit from the Serbian versions that is not traditional for our church. It means that the Russian names appeared together or even earlier than the Serbian ones. At least I think that before 17 century Serbs had no history other than the Russian one. See where’s the first mentioning of the Kosovo Battle – in the Russian Litsevoy Letopisni Svod of Ivan the Great! And so are many toponymal here. Thus Russia is a player in Kosovo. To say nothing that in 1389 both sides were composed mostly of the Rus people and our Great Kniaz/Khan Dmitry I aka Murad I aka Constantine I was killed here. His dead body was mummified and buried near Cairo together with his relatives known as pharaohs. I am to sweet the end of this comment by admitting that not only Rus/Slavs prayed here but most likely all other folks including the Greeks and your ancestors. So the problem of the Shqips in this Holy Land appeared only after WW2 …

There are thousands of Ethnic Russians in Brighton Beach Brooklyn NY sould they also need self determination?

What about the thousands of Ethnic Serbs in Chicago do they deserve a Municipality of Serb Communities??

Putin thinking is illogical at best ...

Would anyone support Trump ethnicly cleansing US of these two monorities??

As Serbia did through the 90's????

It is all very near now, very soon the USA will understand the consequences regarding it's major participation in the murdering of Jugoslavia and the murder of Eastern Orthodox Slavic Christianity in the Balkans! The days now passing quickly and the redemptions nearing so sweetly! The USA acting like some sort of Mortal God, only one Divine God in Heaven!!!

Hey Serbian Crusher!

I am very proud of my name and also of my Serbian Heritage, how about you, who the hell are you and what is your real name you coward? All you Albo and Croat cowards posting on this Serbian English version web site, you are the ones full of crap! Even in my advanced age when I come accross scum like your self in the out side world you back off from me little degenerate runt cowards! The USA will not be in a position to support the Devil much longer, USA is going down to the pitt's of Hell! Zivila Srbija I Ziveo sav Srpski Rod!!!

I’ll tell you a story about Crimea that will unite Serbs and the Whites :

In early 1152 near Yaroslavl city there was an event that we have the earliest written documents. There was a great wedding of the ruling Byzantine Emperor family’s member and a young Rus princess from Byzantine province (fem) of Galich Kostromskoy. The Romey bridegroom’s name was Isaak Komnin but his Bible name was Joseph. He was a Sevastocrator i.e. second important man in the world after the Emperor of the Byzantine. The Russian bride’s name was Maria. They spent several months in Volga region and started for the Byzantine also known as Jerusalem, Troy, Tsargrad ect. When they reached Crimea Maria delivered a boy and they called him Andronicus and he could claim for the throne. Place in Fiolent where in a cave he was born later became saint and they called it Sevastopol. The oldest church of the Birth of Christ is there. Emperor of Byzantine Manuil Komnin (Bible Irod) had other plans for the throne. So he sent people to kill the boy but the Russian Tsar family Magi have warned the Saint Family and the run to Volga region (Egypt) where the boy spent most of his life. In 1182 the boy became the Emperor of the Byzantine and ruled there for 3 years. Andronicus I Komnin surrounded himself with close people from Volga region. Other Komnins were deprived of their former incomes. So they arranged a plot and tortured him to death. After his death Greeks called him Crucified Prophet = Jesus Christ.

The "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Serbia as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".

I have a proposal for Mr. Putin, President of Russia. I can put together 10 Albanians who can go with helicopter on Vatican while the Pope is visiting Beograd and they can manage to find that hidden underground labyrinth Rote mentioned to me and find the proofs for what he writes. Greeks can also help us on this as they have helped many Albanians escape with helicopters from greek prisons. Will you Mr. Putin President of Russia recognize Kosova then? We can make a deal on this if you agree.

What else is new?
Will of some should be respected, will of the others ignored!
Just to stay in former Yugoslavia...
Republics can't be divided, then again, some can be divided (Serbia).
Actions speak louder then words. With mouths full of equal rights, and such...carry policy of supremacy of one over another.

I always said it. Russia would recognize Kosovo in an instant. The question is only what they`ll ask in return. Looks like they found something they want to trade in for Kosovo. Crimea.

(Gjon Marku, 8 September 2016 19:51)


Last week Putin yold the PM of Japan :"WE DON'T TRADE OUR LANDS." I guess this formula is as good for KIM too. And it's quite evident " what they`ll ask in return" - it will be the Kosovo lands of ours. I personally believe it must be rationally divided between us and the Whites. We have nowhere to hurry up but Serbs in Mitrovica may think different.

A wolf is a wolf.....
Trying on Sheep clothing but non the less a WOLF!
(Azir, 8 September 2016 20:50)

There is also a saying: An organ harvester is an organ harvester.

Putin does not seem to agree with you and is asking for the west to recognize crimea if he recognizes Kosovo. So much for your slavic brotherhood.
(Gjon Marku, 9 September 2016 07:22)

Crimea or any other part of the Russian soil is not discussed or bargained. For such discussions we have armed forces of 2 700 00 men including 1 200 000 in the army. As for the sanctions of the West Russia has not moved a finger to remove them. Only the finance and the technologies sanctions really harm us while all others are in our favor you know. Prices for the Crimea realty has doubled last 18 months. Many Russians rushed to buy flats and houses in this Holy Land. I remember in 1944 the new commander of the 17-th army of Wehrmacht saying : SOLDIERS NO OTHER CITY IS PRONOUNCED BY THE RUSSIANS WITH SUCH AN EXCITIMENT AS SEVASTOPOL. Little has changed ever since though not all Russians know of the treasure sites of the Russian church on the peninsula. But Putin knows it very well as he silently supports the New Chronology of Fomenko&Co. That’s why he took the risk of the confrontation for the sake of the ancient churches of ours. From this point Kosovo and Crimea are alike as they both are the cradles of the Rus people no matter how they call themselves for the time being. It will not be said openly but Kosovo has the same underground as the Crimea so Russia will be involved directly. And it may be good for both sides I think as Russia is a better intermediator than NATO.

Gjon Marku : The bar is very low but time after time you manage to lower it with the new chronology of bullshitism.

If something is beyond your understanding it does not mean that you are right. So best if you tell me what exactly is wrong in my comments and how you can prove it. Say I would like to hear your version of word Albanians and how can you explain the toponymal in dozens of far away places in America, Africa and Asia? Also tell me why you believe that Skanderbeu was a Shqiptar and how come that you belonged to the 3 mentioned Milliets of the Ottomans? What evidence do you have of the events that compose the history of your people? Unlike Fomenko who has wrote 42 books to prove his version your fairy are sand made. By privatizing Russian word ALBAN/WHITE you try to steal part of our history where your ancestors never played a significant role. as the Shqips were just soldiers of the Slavic Horde. That’s why I don’t mind using our umbrella trademark but please do not privatize it.

Gjon Marku : You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories let a lone find a majority. Not in the west, not in the east not even in russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPiTICHghIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-UZNbXIF2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiE-GVgPZs&list=PLIuKr6gb77OWr0de7tumrxFQhwlq-BRsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja2kVP_pD6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Cfq7IX4Zg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOdNvsN4zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6v5R3Lpms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev8WUaHe5S0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOUPbjdHeMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1EAT75KXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH3_DRhx8iU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1qjZIuuSjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVo1loY6Vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWMJQ-JKMXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUvG7G2IUpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiE-GVgPZs&list=PLIuKr6gb77OWr0de7tumrxFQhwlq-BRsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qul-4NhHHbo

FEW QUESTIONS TO THE SHQIPTARS

1/ Who and when called you Shqiptars first in a written form ?

2/ What makes you think that mediaeval Albanians were not Russians?

3/ Why do you believe that ГЕОРГИЙ ИСКАНДЕР БЕК was a Shqiptar?

3/ How could Skanderbeu resist Mehmet-2 the Fatih who seized territory of 100 current Albanias with his miserable 300 sabres?

4/ Why Muslims and the Christians did not execute him each time he was betraying his belief?

5/ Do you know interpretation of word ALBANIAN other than WHITE aka Beli aka Bali aka Alb aka Elb ect.?

6/ Do you admit that Tirana (TRN) and Russian word Turan (TRN) is the same word?

7/ Do you know that for +/- 400 years Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic Shqiptars belonged to 3 different nations (milliets) of the Ottomans?

8/ Do you understand that after the White (Albanian) Horde took the upper hand in the civil war of 1370-1415 and the Golden Horde stopped to exist your far away ancestors had only one chance to survive by joining the Whites?

9/ Can you see that most of the toponymal in the region ( Tirana, Serbia, Belgrade, Albania, Balkan, Ottoman, Osman, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Thessaloniki, Istanbul, Black Sea, Hungary, Raska, Kosovo pole ect.) have Russian roots?

10/ Do you think that by insulting me you can shut me up and I’ll stop revealing the truth?

BE READY FOR THE NEXT 10 QUESTIONS TO APPEAR!

Serbian Crisher : If God loved you he wouldn't have awarded the victory of the Kosovo battle to the Albanians.

ЦЫПЛЯТ ПО ОСЕНИ СЧИТАЮТ … So it’s not a victory but a trap that you have stepped in so wait for the respond.


the truth : Putin was very blunt

FOR SUCH A CONCLUSION YOU MUST HAVE BRAINS OF YOUR OWN.


Azir : If it was up to Putin serbs would be thrown under the bus for exchanging Crimeian Independence for Kosova

PUTIN KNOWS ONLY THE ORIGINAL SERBIAN NAME OF THE REGION.

Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".
(Paul, 8 September 2016 23:13)

Lets forget your cheap propaganda and fairy tail history. Putin does not seem to agree with you and is asking for the west to recognize crimea if he recognizes Kosovo.

So much for your slavic brotherhood.

Joni,

we all know what "animals" did in Kosovo.

BRITISH Parliamentary Committee Report. I'm stressing British before you all start screaming "Serbian propaganda!!!"

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmfaff/28/2807.htm#a7

"25. The KLA or UCK (Ushtria Climtare e Kosoves) first publicly announced itself in February 1996 by launching an attack in northern Kosovo on Krajina Serb refugees. There followed several more attacks upon Serb police and civilians. In an open letter to the BBC in June that year, the KLA claimed responsibility for killing six Serbs—three policemen and three civilians..."

First attack was on Krajina Serb refugees on Feb 22nd, 1996. Let me describe it to you. KLA members threw hand grenades through the windows of a housing for refugees. 9 women and children died, 6 were injured.
Then they claimed responsibility for killing of 3 policemen and 3 CIVILIANS.
That's what animals did, Joni, in Kosovo. Started killing CIVILIANS, women and children!

Yes and according to your logic...
(icj1, 9 September 2016 16:14)
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icj1, the CB of B92, forces readers to pause ...
and realize that icj1's connection to any logic is tenuous at best. icj1 is the individual that associates a neurological disorder with an ethnic group. Nonsense and illogic from icj1 run supreme.

This was said to Dacic by Nuland
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You know, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland told me that the United States has been investing in Kosovo's independence for about 20 years. I wondered how this was possible, considering that Washington then supported the sovereignty of Serbia. She replied: 'Yes, it is true that we support the sovereignty of Serbia, but without Kosovo'.
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You can see how messed up the US and West really are. They instigated conflict in the region to meet their agenda, which was to slice up Serbia and Yugoslavia. They never did win the peace and it looks like another round of conflict is on its way, this time with an EU in crisis and a resurgent Russia.

Kosovo became independent before Crimea. You were against Kosovo's independence. Now you can shut up or complain as much as you want.

Gjon Marku

everything fomenko says has been already proven as fiction

SEVERAL SAMPLES PLEASE

You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories

WHAT ABOUT SIR ISAAK NEWTON WHO WROTE A SPECIAL BOOK ABOUT THE WRONG CHRONOLOGY?

Your children will be studying history of Fomenko as the amount of facts that discredit the current history is increasing in geometric proportion. If not explain me word ALBANIANS if you can. Also tell me how could Skanderbeu stand against Mehmet II Fatih if Fatih means THE CONQUEROR? How come that Skanderbeu and his parents and his wife and his multiple children ALL HAD SLAVIC NAMES? How could it be that he was a Christian then a Muslim and then a Christian again if religious treason was punished with death penalty everywhere? If you still insist that you are smarter than my ass I am ready to put you lots of questions of the kind.

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Crimea

So by his logic, Crimea should not be part of Russia, it should be an attempt to newly form a self standing state.

Azir,

"Self determination for those in need not in want."

Serbs in Krajina were never subjected to Genocide, War Crimes and Crimes against humanity?
Ever heard of Jasenovac?
But, forget WW2.
Let's compare Albanian minority in Serbia, and Serbian minority in Croatia, shall we?
One (Albanians) had a right to use their own language (for publishing, schools, etc.) See, Koha Ditore, for example.
The other one had their publications and language completely banned (Serbian language and Cyrillic alphabet in Croatia).
They even went as far as to remove every trace of it in Croatian libraries.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5612/slavicreview.72.2.0361?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Croatian Minister of Finance provided funds to the libraries to remove books in "Serbian and similar languages"

And , as far as I know, Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia. Why they don't have a need?

Putin is ackowledging Kosova's Independence but also envious Crimea's isn't also as Universaly supported!

Two very different situations...

Two different outcomes...

So Russia can honor the will of the people in Crimea, but not in Kosovo? See how this can work both ways?

Pocesta is now an expert in the classics. There is no end to this guys talent.What field of human endeavour will he next share his knowledge and expertise in with us?

Putin is ackowledging Kosova's Independence but also envious Crimea's isn't also as Universaly supported!

Two very different situations...

Two different outcomes...

Атаман

Угра, Угория, Балатон, орсаг (государство), оршаг (русский) и т.п. Кроме того, угры пришли в Европу в составе русской орды. И , кстати, были очень нам верны веками. Я даже подозреваю, что Буда и Будда это одно и то же слово, а значит оно русское. Можем поговорить.


Justhetruth

The truth depends on the chapel you are looking at it. I personally believe that all peoples of the peninsula are victims of the US operation while Serbs are the biggest victim. Their fate was cruel for them last 1000 years you know. Should things develop in a more peaceful way there would be at least 20 million of Serbs now. I don’t say that they were innocent but they were the only side who defended the legal state of the once prospering Yugoslavia. If Serbs withstand the pressure they will help their neighbors to tear their chains I believe. Just like it was during WW1 and WW2. In WW2 there was only one resistance movement in Europe and it was mostly composed of the Serbs including their Montenegrin branch of course. All other peoples sucked with great pleasure to survive. But sucking has never been a Serbian way so they suffer again and again. While the others suck again and again.


Gjon Marku: No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer.

I KNOW THAT !
YET THE QUESTIONS WERE VERY SIMPLE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THUS YOU HEREBY SIGN THAT YOU HAVE NO PROVEN HISTORY.
BUT IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT 14-17 CENTURIES HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ANCIENT TIMES?

Je¿

Real history of the Balkan peoples starts in 19-20 centuries only and nobody is an exclusion. False history was developed by two French Jesuits in 16-17 centuries. I believe that the Shqiptars could be one of the Albanians but it wasn’t an ethnical union. Albanians were the Whites i.e. military representatives of the White Russian Horde. Russians were formed as a nation in 18-19 century. Before that there were several very big Russian or Russian headed states all over the world. The Russia we know was part of the western civilization. Those were Sobakini-Yurievi aka Romanovi who seized state power in Moscow in 1613. Backed by Germany and other Europeans they step by step conquered most of the Russian states in current Russia, Asia and America. Serbs knew only this Germany led Russia while the Albanias as a military power stopped to exist. But Osman/Ottoman Horde survived and became a good shelter for all Balkan peoples. It was a part of the Whites/Albanians so they remained loyal to the memory of the Great Horde and hated the Romanovs. They fought 17 times the Romanovs but not Russia. Because they had very good relations with other Russian states like the Independent Horde in Central Asia, the Great Tartaria in Siberia and America, Japan, Pegaya Tartaria around Pegin/Bejing, China, Great Mogolia. Kastrioti could be an Albanian but he could not be a Shqiptar.

CONTINUED

@ rote

No one did in Crimea what the “animals” did in Kosovo.
Kosovo never was a Serbian land even during Yugoslavia. Kosovo was part of Albanian Vilayets during the Ottomans and was an autonomous province in Yugoslavia.
All the Balkan nations know that and all the Europe learn that in history books. Serbs never wanted Kosovo before that Milosevic raised the myth of “holy land”.
We are guilty as death as death. We are guilty because we saved what Serbs themselves in Serbia proper did not saved, all the churches and monasteries in Kosovo in our villages - not in Serbian one.
And now instead (the Orthodox head church) of being grateful to us, it used against us. Do you know that the so called “holy” was and still is in middle of Albanians. Ask yourself why? We did not stole nothing, we did not move from nowhere, we did not kill nobody for that land – we simply were there – you are trying to rob what was and is our.
What a shame you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0fo-Y_QS4

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Ctimea.

Je¿ wêgierski, rosyjski i amerykañski

History of the mankind is the family story of one ruling dynasty of the Romeos. When the Byzantine fell during the single real Crusader War in 1204 members of the Family abandoned Constantinople. Some went to Europe (Angels) some to Africa and some to Asia. All of them were sure that the whole world belongs to them and to nobody else. But only the Romeos that flew to Russia succeeded in reviving (in a way) the old empire. Those were Aeneas and his descendants known here as Rurikovici. And they never concealed their Mesopotamian (in fact Egyptian) roots but always boasted them! If you look at their portraits you will find that they didn’t look very much of the Russians but rather had Semite appearance. For 2 centuries after Jesus (= Prophet) Christ (= Crucified) died Royal version of Christianity dominated in the family and the whole world that they controlled since mid-14 century. But then in 1370-1415 the Apostolic branch of the Rurikovici (White Horde) destroyed the Royal (Golden Horde) one. They seized the remaining world including both Americas (Ameri Can), Africa (Afri Can) and Asia (land of the As people). The remaining Royal Christianity Rurikovici went to Indochina and India where they transformed Christianity to Buddhism, Krishna’s, and Hinduism. Old name of Tailand was Judea. So there were no Avars as a separate power but a Slavic Horde that seized the world in 14-17 centuries.

We know our history.
(Gjon Marku, 12 September 2016 10:32)

Yes, it's easy-peasy.

The bottom line: the arts, the science, the military power, the philosophy tends to sleep with each other, make children and their children then tend to sleep with each other. This is working for the last 6000 years or so.

Be them Shumers, Jews, Parthians, Chinese, Mongols, Slavs, Germans and so on.

Normally you grow up in a family which is able to either buy the Planet Earth or to destroy it. ;-)

Serbs, Croats, Slovenes are up to the challenge.

The donkey-rider organ-harvest primitive mountain tribes have to align and sing the tune played by the above. But: you have to understand the rule of your overlord. What is not going to work: "I want to harvest organs and ride my donkey - but still be pro-American".

Happy donkey-ride, but never forget the ones who provide your burro with the food; a dead donkey = no donkey ride.

I am sorry to speak to you from a high horse; our horses grew higher than your donkeys ;-)

SHQIPTARS !
START ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE MANY MORE.
"POOR COMMENT" VOTING WON'T HELP YOU.
SO WE SHALL SEE WHICH OF US IS ALBANIAN.
I WILL PLACE HERE albanian toponymal ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK HELPLESS AND MISERABLE.
BECAUSE YOU TEASED ME TOO LONG.
GARDEZ!

The "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Serbia as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Albanians flooding across Albanian borders and out breeding Serbs in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".
(Paul, 8 September 2016 23:13)

Yes and according to your logic... the "will of the people" does not give people the right to take what does not belong to them. Crimea belongs to Russia as a matter of the reality of the past. Kosovo belongs to Rome as a matter of the reality of the past. The past is real and immutable. Serbs flooding across Serb borders and out breeding Romans in Kosovo does not give them the right to claim Kosovo by the "will of the people".

Of course, Hungary has Russian (Germanic, Celtic, Roman) toponymes. But the old capital (Esztergom) had to have a Mesopotamian toponyme, being dedicated to Our Lady (Boldogasszony, which is Ishtar, later to became Mary).

Otherwise the main objectives of the confederation was always:

- underscore the priority of Árpád's own clan (the only one of many being called "Megyer", the rest had all kind of other names) and their "special" role in history, pre-dating the Bible

- encourage the mingling and blood exchange between the clans, conquered and possible allies

- spreading the language "of the very few" to everyone by marriage / childbirth / peer pressure

We do not mind to sleep with enemies ;-)

BTW: Russians did the same.

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244
(icj1, 12 September 2016 20:40)

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icj1, the CB of B92, fails to understand the text of most published documents. Last week the CB of B92 had idiotic and factually incorrect claims about the California constitution. The CB of B92 may wish to consult the Sebian Constitution and also the exact wording of UNSC1244 Annex 2 and note the reference to terroritirial integrity.

PS CB=Chief Bigot

Dear Slavic Brother ROTE !

Today Sunday a time to celebrate we Slavs in peace with God!

For all my Slavic Brothers out there take time to enjoy this moment and day!

Check out some good Slavic music, Momcilo Stanojevic ( Komarac Kolo, Vlasko Kolo ), it's just a few melodies from the Serbian Balkans, hope you all enjoy the day!!! God Bless the Slavic Brotherhood, Zivilo Pravoslavlje!!!!

The way I see this "Eme Gir" issue is that there never was a "Hun" or "Hungarian" or "Schythian" nation.

Instead, there was a very wealthy clan which made it's money by lapis lazuri trade. They controlled the trade and the lingua franca was derivative of Shumerian as originally the Shumerian traders controlled that route.

This clan got it's name and the name of it's language from "Eme Gir". It wasn't a big clan, but they could amass an amazing number of followers each time they decided to go on conquest.

Of course these Schythians / Huns / Avars / Hungarians were a huge mix with a large number of followers speaking Germanic, Slavonic or Turkic languages. But it was always a "special" tribe (or should we say "clan") at the leadership which spoke their own language. Each of these confederations was made the way to "cement" the role of that clan. It wasn't a democracy.

At the end they managed to force their language on the followers. This is how the language survived and this is why it is such a puzzle.

And of course - at every occasion - the central clan rarely if ever failed to mention their supposed "mesopotamian" roots, be it correct or not. So in some sense they are indeed mesopotamians… at least they wanted to be since ever. And the name of the nation + language + everything today still has that "Eme Gir" root. Even they swear in Shumerian ("Fasz", "Fos", etc.)

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.

Gjon Marku: No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer.

I KNOW THAT !
YET THE QUESTIONS WERE VERY SIMPLE AS YOU CAN SEE.
THUS YOU HEREBY SIGN THAT YOU HAVE NO PROVEN HISTORY.
BUT IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT 14-17 CENTURIES HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ANCIENT TIMES?
(rote, 12 September 2016 10:07)

Oh, no one will answer your easy questions because you dont deserve an answer on that topic.

We know our history.

The only reason I reply to you posts is because I like to mock you and your made up history classes. You always make me laugh because you really believe the stuff you write, dont you? Poor little ruski. Once an empire, now subject of mockery from everyone. No matter how important you were, dont forget how little you are now.

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 09:30)

Sure, whatever floats your boat. You are entiteled to believe whatever you want. Words are for free.
(Gjon Marku, 12 September 2016 10:10)

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The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
On another note about words: what happened to your prediction that the fenced-in residents of KiM would have visa-free access to the EU?

The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 16:13)

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244

(rote, 9 September 2016 21:23)

Dude, your Fomenko crap is getting boring. There are more people who believe that the Chonicles of Narnia is real than the Fantasy History of Fomenko.

Please stop with your fairy tails. You are insulting everybodys intellect here. Even the intellect of most serb nationalist and yugo-fetishists. The bar is very low but time after time you manage to lower it with the new chronology of bullshitism.

(rote, 10 September 2016 17:23)

Its not beyond my understanding because everything fomenko says has been already proven as fiction. Pseudo sience has been around for longer than fomenko. You wont find any serious scientist backing those funny theories let a lone find a majority. Not in the west, not in the east not even in russia. If the amount of books was somehow a criteria, then let me remind you that kim jong il wrote more than 1000. describing how his dad was born by light at the foot of a holy mountain.

Again, fomenko and his bullshitism never managed to convince any historian ever.

"It is all very near now, very soon the USA will understand the consequences..."

That reads like a Harry Potter fantasy the way you write Dragolub Jerk-ovic. Has anyone noticed that it's always Serbians that write as if they are piecing together a novel or folklore? Always silly talk about "Eastern Orthodox" this and that and "the almighty God" "fire and brinstone". What the hell is wrong with you people? Why are you such religious fanatics?

I have a story for you: God doesn't love you. If God loved you he wouldn't have awarded the victory of the Kosovo battle to the Albanians. Lol!!

"Thinking of Crimea, they choose not to notice that the will of the Crimean people, 70 percent of which are ethnic Russians and the rest speak Russian as their native language, was to join Russia. They prefer to ignore this. In one place, in Kosovo, the will of the people can be honored, but here - it cannot. All of this is about political games," Putin has been quoted as saying.

Putin was very blunt, and Serbian Blic reported correctly, but die hard serbs on this site tend to play dumb and write their own version. Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.

Putin said you give me Crimea and Kosova is Independent country at UNSC.
(the truth, 11 September 2016 11:23)

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The truth is that Putin already has Crimea
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 11 September 2016 16:21)

The truth is we already have Kosova.

SHQIPTARS !
START ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE MANY MORE.
"POOR COMMENT" VOTING WON'T HELP YOU.
SO WE SHALL SEE WHICH OF US IS ALBANIAN.
I WILL PLACE HERE albanian toponymal ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK HELPLESS AND MISERABLE.
BECAUSE YOU TEASED ME TOO LONG.
GARDEZ!
(rote, 11 September 2016 23:32)

Poor little rote, just as delusional as his hero Fomenko. No one will answer your questions because there is nothing to answer. When everything is a lie and all is made up, whats there to answer?

You are interesed in history? Then start reading history books and stop reading sci-fi novels.

The truth is we already have Kosova.
(the truth, 12 September 2016 06:38)

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Yes, the truth is that we do have a KiM.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 09:30)

Sure, whatever floats your boat. You are entiteled to believe whatever you want. Words are for free.

>>> "Можем поговорить."

I guess, I am the only "Albanian" who tried to answer and argue with you other way than insulting.

I am in Moscow end of September again. Coffee... I like espresso, the stronger the better. Alternative: a tea brew called "1001 ночь", no sugar (diabetes here).

Happy donkey-ride, but never forget the ones who provide your burro with the food; a dead donkey = no donkey ride.

I am sorry to speak to you from a high horse; our horses grew higher than your donkeys ;-)
(Ataman, 12 September 2016 17:03)

As donkey riders we manage to survive the ottoman empire, fascist italy, nationalist Germany, communist Yugoslavia and genocidal Serbia.

You went from having everything to loosing everything. Looks like your high horse is not worth the meat while my donkey got me everything we ever asked for. Now excuse me while enjoy freedom with my burro.

Kosovo is governed by the Constitutional framework for provisional self-government in Kosovo that UNMIK has promulgated under UNSCR 1244. That constitutional framework states that Kosovo is an undivided territory.
...what matters is what UNMIK says not what Sebia Albania, Zimbabwe (or whatever) says!
(icj1, 13 September 2016 20:54)

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icj1, the CB of B92, should realize that KiM is an undivided portion of a larger contiguous territory whose integrity is reaffirmed in UNSCR 1244.

This principle of territorial integrity is consistent with the Serbian constitution which also includes KiM as an undivided and integral part of Serbian territory. We're glad that the CB of B92, icj1, recognizes this large contiguous undivided territory as "what matters" as written in UNSCR 1244.

icj1 wishes to emphasize his/her ignorance of the Serbian constitution. Perhaps the CB of B92, icj1, should not only read the reaffirmation of territorial integrity on page 2 of UNSCR 1244, but they should consult a tutor who may explain the contents of Annex 2 sec 8. Perhaps a grade 6 level tutor may explain to icj1 that Annex 2 sec 8 refers to the "framework" and further entrenches the principle of territorial integrity.

After all, what UNSCR 1244 says, is "what matters". Finally, another absolute is that icj1's warped illogic, idiotic inferences, and "factually incorrect" interpretations certainly DON'T matter.

PS CB=Chief Bigot

Attention Ignorant Slav serbs:

If it was up to Putin serbs would be thrown under the bus for exchanging Crimeian Independence for Kosova into the UN.

And probably a Kosovar as UN President to top it off😍

Rote you are Moot...
You talk nonsense and no one cares...

What ever happened to "Slavic Brotherhood and Unity"? Ha ha

In reality... its about self interest!
America defends our freedom where as Serbs feeling home sick from Ukraine/Russian mountain cave homes need to lick Putin ass for support...

Sad truth is no one likes evil slav serb war criminals...not even your master Putin!

Rote the bad joke:

Albanian is a Western word to describe Shqiptare....us.

The Ottoman Empire occupied our lands and outlawed our language and yet we never forgot our language....

Even if the Ocuppiers made it a criminal offence to write In Albanian or Shqip.

I told you before we are INDIGENOUS,unique,original natives nothing to do with any SLAVS!

Please dont insult us!

Russia/Ukrianian/Serb same or similar DNA.

We remain independent,original non-slav contanminate,pure and proud.

1) Not older than 200 years ago, AFAIK.

2) I visited churches in Kastoria, Bukovina, Pskov, Novgorod. Shquip and Romanians seem to have closer kinship than Shquip and Russians or Romanians and Russians.


3) He wanted to be. He was of Serbian-Hellene origin, but representing the interests of local tribes makes you, I guess, local.


4) See King Leonidas of Sparta vs. Xerxes.



5) He wasn't executed because he was smart to know, when to fight, when to negotiate. Applies to every medieval ruler who died of natural cause.


6) Arbari, Arbes, Arvan, Arvanitica, blah-blah-blah, million versions. It's AFAIK a name of a local mountain tribe. 



7) Nope, Albanian language and Albanians have nothing to do with Turanian tribes.



8) Albanians served both Ottmans and Tsar Empire. They were fierce warriors.

9) The White / Golden / etc. Horde Alternative history is not supported by me.

10) Please explain the toponym Ishtar Gam ("Fortess of Goddes Ishtar in the River Bend") in Russian. You will have better luck in Shumerian (or some weird Caucasian languages)

11) Please find Ishtar Gam on the map. Google is your friend. The result #3 from the search is what I mean.

12) The Shumerians never called their language Shumerian. It was called "Eme Gir" ("language of aristocracy"). What native nation name does "Eme Gir" resembles?

13) I am not insulting you ;-)

14) I am not saying that "Megyer" = "Eme Gir". It's more complicated than that.

(rote, 11 September 2016 17:22
Im very glad and hopefully more people exists like you... more like you=Serbia longer in shit hole remember again Nazis killed and destroyed a way more as Serbia did after realizing what they did they start fresh acknowledge the damage they did and hey they start exporting they car's les in ten years guess where you are after 26 years they say also until you don't accept your mistake and being a ignorant you will get NOTHING.... WHEN YOU SAY SORRY AND PAY FOR YOU MISTAKE everything slowly good thinks will develop in your side so in the end Slavic are born believing fairy tails and lie's and that is very hard to understand the very truth of the being honest in this life

The words are part of a constitution. Moreover territorial integrity is also entrenched in UNSCR 1244.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 12 September 2016 16:13)

Exactly. Kosovo being an undivided territory is entrenched in Kosovo's constitutional framework under UNSCR 1244
(icj1, 12 September 2016 20:40)

consult the Sebian Constitution
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 13 September 2016 02:52)

Well, Kosovo is governed by the Constitutional framework for provisional self-government in Kosovo that UNMIK has promulgated under UNSCR 1244. That constitutional framework states that Kosovo is an undivided territory. If you are unhappy with that, please feel free to contact UNMIK :)

Not sure though why we should consult the Sebian, Albanian, Zimbabwean (or whatever) constitution since UNMIK is in control in Kosovo and what matters is what UNMIK says not what Sebia, Albania, Zimbabwe (or whatever) says!