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Tuesday, 30.08.2016.

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Serbian candidate third in new round of voting at UNSG

Former Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic has placed third in the third round of informal voting in the UN Security Council.

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Gerhard

pre 7 godina

he will never get it, and would be vetoed by the entire West anyway. It would be the end of the UN if that man would be elected.
(abc, 30 August 2016 13:23)

That he is a strong candidate just gets under your skin. LOL!
You can speak for the entire west, too?
Let's see observer, willi pfaff and now abc. Too funny.

icj1

pre 7 godina

I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

I'm not sure I understand. There is not any job open at the UN for "top 2 and top 3" :)
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No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Great, so you are confirming what I wrote that Vuk has no chance and is hopeless and that Serbia was delusional in nominating him for such a hopeless exercise!
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If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Oh Ok, so Serbia was in a competition for a race to the bottom lol
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What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Well, not all countries are as delusional as Serbia.
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And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic?
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Define "better result" and explain what Vuk's "result" was so then your question if anybody could do or did "better" than him can be answered :)

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

So much excitement in Serbia, about the third place in a round of voting that is not even final.
But, alas, this is not Olympics where you get a bronze medal if you come out third. At the end, if you're the second or the 200th, it doesn't matter, because you won't be the one to be given the job.

Avni

pre 7 godina

No mentioning of this:
Bulgaria's Bokova, Serbia's Jeremić Tied in 3rd UN Straw Poll
http://www.novinite.com/articles/176061/Bulgaria's+Bokova,+Serbia's+Jeremi%C4%87+Tied+in+3rd+UN+Straw+Poll

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 31 August 2016 00:25)

The votes in favor/against change whenever candidates drop out of the race. I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance. No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win. But when you losers come here to hate on him, it's laughable.

So I put it again, what about his campaign has been weak? If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal. What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.

And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic? Anyone, anyone? If you can't name one candidate, then you are wrong. You just use bigger words than your goat herder cousins. But it doesn't make you right. :)

sj

pre 7 godina

I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.
(American born Serb, 31 August 2016 04:13)

No he did not pose the wrong question mate. That was decided well before it went to court. When you deal with powers like the US it’s more of a matter what they will tolerate you asking not what you think you can ask.
Serbia’s question went half way. The court said that it was not illegal to make an announcement much like you standing in Times Square New York and declaring that part independent. It’s a nonsense statement. However the court did not rule that Kosovo’s action to create a state was legal nor would it do so.

American born Serb

pre 7 godina

What about his (Vuk's) results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Ari,
I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.

icj1

pre 7 godina

What's frustrating is you losers hating on him
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Me hating him?! If you have read my writings, I'm one of the greatest admirers of Vuk because I credit his efforts as the decisive factor to settle the question whether Kosovo's declaration of independence was in accordance with international law.
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he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Sure, he is the strongest candidate for whatever, except for UNSG lol
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What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

7 votes in favor... that means he was no chance and and he is hopless as far as getting elected UNSG is concerned. If you want to define that as 'strong' result, sure go ahead, but this is not a competition about a gold, silver and bronze medal, where if you don't get the gold, you could still get the silver or the bronze one lol

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.
(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

---
Yet more irony from icj1, the CB of B92. icj1's reality is grounded in the science of Josef Mengele. In icj1's reality, neurological disorders are associated with ethnicity rather than conventional medical diagnosis.

P.S. CB= Chief Bigot

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

I'm not frustrated about Jeremic at all. If I was going to bet money, I would not have put it on his chances of winning. Not once have I said that I am expecting him to win. And honestly I thought he would fall off by now. What's frustrating is you losers hating on him despite the fact that he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.

What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?

Drymades

pre 7 godina

Jeremic is the only candidate who has a detailed platform of 53 concrete commitments that span from the need to tackle the current dramatic climate changes, transparency of UN finances, to technological innovations and sustainable development solutions. Maybe Jeremic represents the last chance nations have in order to foster the UN's role in the 21st century. I've been thrilled by the opportunity to hear him explain his platform in person and frankly consider him the best fit for that position.

icj1

pre 7 godina

You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, for some candidates like Vuk, that was pretty easy. You don't need to have a PhD to conclude that he had no chance. You confuse too much your wishes with reality, mate!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
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there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
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The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
----------

there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
----------

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

Vuk to Win!

pre 7 godina

Well done to Vuk, you have come so far!
I find it funny how others here complain and try to put him down. Especially since the Croatia and Montenegro dropped out, Macedonia never stood a chance, and the mighty Shiptars never even tried...at anything lol
With his previous experience and knowledge, Vuk is objectivly the only man for the job and he has a lot of support. Hopefully he'll be the next UNSC

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(vlad, 30 August 2016 11:40)

The voting in the last few rounds have been all over the place. Danilo Turk was 3rd last round and dropped to 10. Lajcak moved up really fast, so there is no "trend" happening at all. Nobody was predicting Jeremic would win. But the fact is you are just haters. Especially the rabid Albanian and Croat extremists on here who hate anything and anyone Serbian. Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender and there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t. You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement. How about predicting who WILL be the winner then?

vlad

pre 7 godina

It’s a joke how the Serbian (and pro democratic party) media put a positive spin on a jeremic candidacy and his results so far. The reality is, and what the three polls have clearly demonstrated, is that jeremic is not a strong candidate and that his support has actually dropped when compared to his rivals. His encourage/discourage/no opinion vote went from 9/5/1 to 8/4/3 to 7/5/3 which demonstrates his encourage vote has consistently dropped. While his discourage briefly improved – marginally – on the second vote, clearly this was just a blip. Jeremic went from 2nd to 3rd. While technically he is tied with Bokova for 3rd, her discourage vote improved while her encourage vote remained the same so actuality she is the stronger of the tied 3rd place candidates. Most troubling for Vuk, whose only chance of winning is as a compromise candidate should Guterres get vetoed, is the increasing strength of the other candidates. Lajac, one of the other East European candidates, shot up from 10th to 2nd which clearly indicates that he is being positioned should a front-runner get vetoes or if the SC insists on a candidate from Eastern Europe. It’s over for Jeremic. “The trend is your friend,” and Jeremic must be looking at the trend of his results and that of his rivals. He knows the support’s not there. He cannot win.

Vuk to Win!

pre 7 godina

Well done to Vuk, you have come so far!
I find it funny how others here complain and try to put him down. Especially since the Croatia and Montenegro dropped out, Macedonia never stood a chance, and the mighty Shiptars never even tried...at anything lol
With his previous experience and knowledge, Vuk is objectivly the only man for the job and he has a lot of support. Hopefully he'll be the next UNSC

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(vlad, 30 August 2016 11:40)

The voting in the last few rounds have been all over the place. Danilo Turk was 3rd last round and dropped to 10. Lajcak moved up really fast, so there is no "trend" happening at all. Nobody was predicting Jeremic would win. But the fact is you are just haters. Especially the rabid Albanian and Croat extremists on here who hate anything and anyone Serbian. Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender and there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t. You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement. How about predicting who WILL be the winner then?

vlad

pre 7 godina

It’s a joke how the Serbian (and pro democratic party) media put a positive spin on a jeremic candidacy and his results so far. The reality is, and what the three polls have clearly demonstrated, is that jeremic is not a strong candidate and that his support has actually dropped when compared to his rivals. His encourage/discourage/no opinion vote went from 9/5/1 to 8/4/3 to 7/5/3 which demonstrates his encourage vote has consistently dropped. While his discourage briefly improved – marginally – on the second vote, clearly this was just a blip. Jeremic went from 2nd to 3rd. While technically he is tied with Bokova for 3rd, her discourage vote improved while her encourage vote remained the same so actuality she is the stronger of the tied 3rd place candidates. Most troubling for Vuk, whose only chance of winning is as a compromise candidate should Guterres get vetoed, is the increasing strength of the other candidates. Lajac, one of the other East European candidates, shot up from 10th to 2nd which clearly indicates that he is being positioned should a front-runner get vetoes or if the SC insists on a candidate from Eastern Europe. It’s over for Jeremic. “The trend is your friend,” and Jeremic must be looking at the trend of his results and that of his rivals. He knows the support’s not there. He cannot win.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
----------

there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
----------

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

I'm not frustrated about Jeremic at all. If I was going to bet money, I would not have put it on his chances of winning. Not once have I said that I am expecting him to win. And honestly I thought he would fall off by now. What's frustrating is you losers hating on him despite the fact that he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.

What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?

Drymades

pre 7 godina

Jeremic is the only candidate who has a detailed platform of 53 concrete commitments that span from the need to tackle the current dramatic climate changes, transparency of UN finances, to technological innovations and sustainable development solutions. Maybe Jeremic represents the last chance nations have in order to foster the UN's role in the 21st century. I've been thrilled by the opportunity to hear him explain his platform in person and frankly consider him the best fit for that position.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.
(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

---
Yet more irony from icj1, the CB of B92. icj1's reality is grounded in the science of Josef Mengele. In icj1's reality, neurological disorders are associated with ethnicity rather than conventional medical diagnosis.

P.S. CB= Chief Bigot

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
----------

there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
----------

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

American born Serb

pre 7 godina

What about his (Vuk's) results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Ari,
I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.

icj1

pre 7 godina

You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, for some candidates like Vuk, that was pretty easy. You don't need to have a PhD to conclude that he had no chance. You confuse too much your wishes with reality, mate!

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 31 August 2016 00:25)

The votes in favor/against change whenever candidates drop out of the race. I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance. No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win. But when you losers come here to hate on him, it's laughable.

So I put it again, what about his campaign has been weak? If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal. What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.

And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic? Anyone, anyone? If you can't name one candidate, then you are wrong. You just use bigger words than your goat herder cousins. But it doesn't make you right. :)

Avni

pre 7 godina

No mentioning of this:
Bulgaria's Bokova, Serbia's Jeremić Tied in 3rd UN Straw Poll
http://www.novinite.com/articles/176061/Bulgaria's+Bokova,+Serbia's+Jeremi%C4%87+Tied+in+3rd+UN+Straw+Poll

sj

pre 7 godina

I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.
(American born Serb, 31 August 2016 04:13)

No he did not pose the wrong question mate. That was decided well before it went to court. When you deal with powers like the US it’s more of a matter what they will tolerate you asking not what you think you can ask.
Serbia’s question went half way. The court said that it was not illegal to make an announcement much like you standing in Times Square New York and declaring that part independent. It’s a nonsense statement. However the court did not rule that Kosovo’s action to create a state was legal nor would it do so.

icj1

pre 7 godina

What's frustrating is you losers hating on him
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Me hating him?! If you have read my writings, I'm one of the greatest admirers of Vuk because I credit his efforts as the decisive factor to settle the question whether Kosovo's declaration of independence was in accordance with international law.
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he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Sure, he is the strongest candidate for whatever, except for UNSG lol
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What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

7 votes in favor... that means he was no chance and and he is hopless as far as getting elected UNSG is concerned. If you want to define that as 'strong' result, sure go ahead, but this is not a competition about a gold, silver and bronze medal, where if you don't get the gold, you could still get the silver or the bronze one lol

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

So much excitement in Serbia, about the third place in a round of voting that is not even final.
But, alas, this is not Olympics where you get a bronze medal if you come out third. At the end, if you're the second or the 200th, it doesn't matter, because you won't be the one to be given the job.

icj1

pre 7 godina

I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

I'm not sure I understand. There is not any job open at the UN for "top 2 and top 3" :)
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No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Great, so you are confirming what I wrote that Vuk has no chance and is hopeless and that Serbia was delusional in nominating him for such a hopeless exercise!
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If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Oh Ok, so Serbia was in a competition for a race to the bottom lol
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What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Well, not all countries are as delusional as Serbia.
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And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic?
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Define "better result" and explain what Vuk's "result" was so then your question if anybody could do or did "better" than him can be answered :)

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

he will never get it, and would be vetoed by the entire West anyway. It would be the end of the UN if that man would be elected.
(abc, 30 August 2016 13:23)

That he is a strong candidate just gets under your skin. LOL!
You can speak for the entire west, too?
Let's see observer, willi pfaff and now abc. Too funny.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
----------

there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
----------

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

vlad

pre 7 godina

It’s a joke how the Serbian (and pro democratic party) media put a positive spin on a jeremic candidacy and his results so far. The reality is, and what the three polls have clearly demonstrated, is that jeremic is not a strong candidate and that his support has actually dropped when compared to his rivals. His encourage/discourage/no opinion vote went from 9/5/1 to 8/4/3 to 7/5/3 which demonstrates his encourage vote has consistently dropped. While his discourage briefly improved – marginally – on the second vote, clearly this was just a blip. Jeremic went from 2nd to 3rd. While technically he is tied with Bokova for 3rd, her discourage vote improved while her encourage vote remained the same so actuality she is the stronger of the tied 3rd place candidates. Most troubling for Vuk, whose only chance of winning is as a compromise candidate should Guterres get vetoed, is the increasing strength of the other candidates. Lajac, one of the other East European candidates, shot up from 10th to 2nd which clearly indicates that he is being positioned should a front-runner get vetoes or if the SC insists on a candidate from Eastern Europe. It’s over for Jeremic. “The trend is your friend,” and Jeremic must be looking at the trend of his results and that of his rivals. He knows the support’s not there. He cannot win.

icj1

pre 7 godina

You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, for some candidates like Vuk, that was pretty easy. You don't need to have a PhD to conclude that he had no chance. You confuse too much your wishes with reality, mate!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Yes, Jeremic was and is the number one contenter from Serbia. It's not the fault of Croats or Albanians why Serbia was able to only produce such a weak candidate.
----------

there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

I'm not sure what UN body will insist about that, but anyway there is Lajcak, who, at least has the 9 required votes for a decision to be reached (assuming no vetoes from the 5 permanent members). Vuk does not even have the 9 votes!
----------

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 12:49)

Well, the results so far have actually proven and continue to prove that Vuk has "no chance" and is "hopeless". I understand your frustration, but direct it at Vuk. It was Vuk who blew his golden opportunity as UNGA president to show that he is worthy for the office he is now seeking. It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.

sj

pre 7 godina

I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.
(American born Serb, 31 August 2016 04:13)

No he did not pose the wrong question mate. That was decided well before it went to court. When you deal with powers like the US it’s more of a matter what they will tolerate you asking not what you think you can ask.
Serbia’s question went half way. The court said that it was not illegal to make an announcement much like you standing in Times Square New York and declaring that part independent. It’s a nonsense statement. However the court did not rule that Kosovo’s action to create a state was legal nor would it do so.

Vuk to Win!

pre 7 godina

Well done to Vuk, you have come so far!
I find it funny how others here complain and try to put him down. Especially since the Croatia and Montenegro dropped out, Macedonia never stood a chance, and the mighty Shiptars never even tried...at anything lol
With his previous experience and knowledge, Vuk is objectivly the only man for the job and he has a lot of support. Hopefully he'll be the next UNSC

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

I'm not frustrated about Jeremic at all. If I was going to bet money, I would not have put it on his chances of winning. Not once have I said that I am expecting him to win. And honestly I thought he would fall off by now. What's frustrating is you losers hating on him despite the fact that he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.

What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 31 August 2016 00:25)

The votes in favor/against change whenever candidates drop out of the race. I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance. No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win. But when you losers come here to hate on him, it's laughable.

So I put it again, what about his campaign has been weak? If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal. What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.

And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic? Anyone, anyone? If you can't name one candidate, then you are wrong. You just use bigger words than your goat herder cousins. But it doesn't make you right. :)

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

(vlad, 30 August 2016 11:40)

The voting in the last few rounds have been all over the place. Danilo Turk was 3rd last round and dropped to 10. Lajcak moved up really fast, so there is no "trend" happening at all. Nobody was predicting Jeremic would win. But the fact is you are just haters. Especially the rabid Albanian and Croat extremists on here who hate anything and anyone Serbian. Jeremic was the number one Eastern European contender and there is reason to believe that the UN will insist on Eastern Europe taking the reigns this time around which would render Gutteres ineligible.

The rest of you miserable losers come on here and pretend you are some experts. Jeremic has "no chance", "hopeless" etc. When his results thus far have proven your expertise isn't worth sh*t. You pretend that saying it wont be this one candidate out of 12 is somehow a bold statement. How about predicting who WILL be the winner then?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It's not the fault of people who are telling you the reality, even though you might not like such reality.
(icj1, 30 August 2016 15:02)

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Yet more irony from icj1, the CB of B92. icj1's reality is grounded in the science of Josef Mengele. In icj1's reality, neurological disorders are associated with ethnicity rather than conventional medical diagnosis.

P.S. CB= Chief Bigot

Drymades

pre 7 godina

Jeremic is the only candidate who has a detailed platform of 53 concrete commitments that span from the need to tackle the current dramatic climate changes, transparency of UN finances, to technological innovations and sustainable development solutions. Maybe Jeremic represents the last chance nations have in order to foster the UN's role in the 21st century. I've been thrilled by the opportunity to hear him explain his platform in person and frankly consider him the best fit for that position.

icj1

pre 7 godina

What's frustrating is you losers hating on him
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Me hating him?! If you have read my writings, I'm one of the greatest admirers of Vuk because I credit his efforts as the decisive factor to settle the question whether Kosovo's declaration of independence was in accordance with international law.
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he is the strongest candidate in the region by far and the leading candidate in Eastern Europe.
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Sure, he is the strongest candidate for whatever, except for UNSG lol
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What about his results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

7 votes in favor... that means he was no chance and and he is hopless as far as getting elected UNSG is concerned. If you want to define that as 'strong' result, sure go ahead, but this is not a competition about a gold, silver and bronze medal, where if you don't get the gold, you could still get the silver or the bronze one lol

American born Serb

pre 7 godina

What about his (Vuk's) results have proven to be weak and hopeless as you have put it? After 4 rounds of voting, he is never finished below #3 out of 11-15 candidates. Explain, how is that not a strong result?
(Ari Gold, 30 August 2016 21:24)

Ari,
I don't meaning to be petty, but there have been only 3 rounds thus far, the 4th to be held in Sept. The Bulgarian woman candidate and the Slovak are far more seasoned than Vuk. Also, he is trailing on ratings and falling further behind. What Jeremic lacks most is gravitas. He should wait to enter the race till he can manage without training wheels. Being ejected from his party did not help his cause. However, what stands out most is that he incorrectly posed the question concerning Kosovo's independence and ended up embarrassing himself as well as Serbia.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

So much excitement in Serbia, about the third place in a round of voting that is not even final.
But, alas, this is not Olympics where you get a bronze medal if you come out third. At the end, if you're the second or the 200th, it doesn't matter, because you won't be the one to be given the job.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

he will never get it, and would be vetoed by the entire West anyway. It would be the end of the UN if that man would be elected.
(abc, 30 August 2016 13:23)

That he is a strong candidate just gets under your skin. LOL!
You can speak for the entire west, too?
Let's see observer, willi pfaff and now abc. Too funny.

Avni

pre 7 godina

No mentioning of this:
Bulgaria's Bokova, Serbia's Jeremić Tied in 3rd UN Straw Poll
http://www.novinite.com/articles/176061/Bulgaria's+Bokova,+Serbia's+Jeremi%C4%87+Tied+in+3rd+UN+Straw+Poll

icj1

pre 7 godina

I still have asked you to explain how finishing in the top 2 and top 3 out of 11-15 candidates is considered a weak performance.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

I'm not sure I understand. There is not any job open at the UN for "top 2 and top 3" :)
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No one is saying he'll win, no one has ever said they are expecting him to win.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Great, so you are confirming what I wrote that Vuk has no chance and is hopeless and that Serbia was delusional in nominating him for such a hopeless exercise!
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If Serbia nominated such a "hopeless" candidate, then can you define Croatia's and Bosnia's candidates? Their results have truly been dismal.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Oh Ok, so Serbia was in a competition for a race to the bottom lol
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What about Albania, I guess you can't call their candidate hopeless as they didn't even bother to try.
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Well, not all countries are as delusional as Serbia.
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And my last question, which candidate from the region has or can put up a better result than Jeremic?
(Ari Gold, 31 August 2016 14:34)

Define "better result" and explain what Vuk's "result" was so then your question if anybody could do or did "better" than him can be answered :)