Romania's ex president: We could veto Serbia's EU membership

So the Vlachs/Romanians in Serbia will decide what to call themselves.
(Ari Gold, 18 August 2016 13:26)

They have. They call themselves Vlachs (Vlah/Vlajna/Vlasi) and they've been calling them that long before the union of Wallachia and Moldavia decided to call itself "Romania" as a way of trying to prove greater territorial ancestry to the lands they claim as their own from the Hungarians.

Note also that Basescu is referring to those in Serbia's central-southern region, and not those in Vojvodina who call themselves, and are recognized by Serbia as, "Romanians". He knows he can only be specific but he also knows he's got no card to play in this because Vlasi consider Serbia their home, not Romania. Funny anecdote - they along with ethnic Serbs in the region complain about Romanian migrant workers coming there and refer to them as "cigani".

So much for ethnic solidarity.

thank god, please do nobody in Serbia wants to join the EU but the government..countries want out not in.....like UK....;p

Yes Romania could veto but if Europe threatens to return all the romanian gypsies flooding the EU Romania will think twice or even thrice before vetoing Serbia. The only card Romania has in its hands in the Joker!

The agency added that the number of Vlachs in Serbia is "estimated" at a quarter of a million, but that only 35,330 people declared themselves as Vlachs in the last census, while 29,332 said they were ethnic Romanians.

So the Vlachs/Romanians in Serbia will decide what to call themselves. Neither the Serbian nor Romanian government should dictate to these people their own national identity. It is not up to anyone else. Certainly not up to the Romanian government to impose their will on Serbia. The people will determine what they want to be called. But hey, if this stalls Serbia on its EU path while Serbia still pays lip service to EU aspirations so it can compete for more funds from Brussels, then I am all for it. It's the best position to be in.

Romanians stand by Serbia, and Serbia will make EU stronger and more balanced. No way RO would ever block Serbia. Sounds like wishful thinking by those that benefit from keeping these natural friends apart.

My wife is a Vlajna and she never considered her self as a Romanian.I am a Serb she tells everybody and the Vlasi that i know all consider them selves as Serbs

These "Vlachs" also have the right to return to Romania which they should do at the earliest opportunity.

The fact that they need to veto us to make us respect human rights is bad enough in and of itself.

But nationalists will come up with an excuse to not do as they say.

I have no idea why do these has beens bother? No one is going to ask Romania what it thinks of Serbia joining the EU. Look at what happened to Croatia. Davor made himself look so foolish with those statements until Merkel told him to shut up.

Dont get me wrong I hope Serbia is vetoed but making stupid statements then being unable to do anything is worse.

I thought serbs and romanians were brothers . oh , I was wrong . ha ha ha .. You tried to block kosovo , but other countries do kick your butt very well... you think you can lie the world ? they can see that you are the same milloshevic countrie.. your way to eu with this mentality is going to be long..

I have no idea why do these has beens bother? No one is going to ask Romania what it thinks of Serbia joining the EU
(sj, 18 August 2016 13:32)

I totally agree with the CE of B92 forums sj, as always. The EU must immediately change the EU treaties to comply with the command of the CE of B92 forums sj above that Romania's approval must not be required!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

So normal crooked Serbs and their incorrigible governments representatives pretending https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs_of_Serbia#Legal_status to be Vlach or other minorities. No one takes Serbs seriously anymore with their crooked subterfuge ways. They have been pissing off all their neighbors for more then a century.

I thought serbs and romanians were brothers . oh , I was wrong . ha ha ha ..
(real, 19 August 2016 00:47)

Serbs and Romanians get along fine. Serbia is Romania's only neighbor that hasn't gone to war with it. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about but thought you'd look smart writing something.

There is a very large hungarian minority in romania.....and they want thier rights.the romanians should be carefull what they wish for. And now that the turks turn away fron nato the many nuclear weapons from incirlik airbase will be restationed in romania....if war breaks out romania will be vaporized and the only romanians left alive may well be in serbia.....be careful what you wish for rumuni

I totally agree with the CE of B92 forums sj, as always. The EU must immediately change the EU treaties to comply with the command of the CE of B92 forums sj above that Romania's approval must not be required!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 August 2016 15:53)

The village idiot has spoken.

Possibly the time has come to reform all the countries in the EU. It is sad that one of the poorest countries in EU is able to waive a stick as their own people in their own country may be deprived.

so let him...

"No one takes Serbs seriously..."
(Lenard, 19 August 2016 09:36)

LOL! No one takes you seriously, either.

I don`t recognise thoese Vlachs

To stay there in Serbia , we need less people in Romania

If gdp grow and people are less , is better

Those traitors to stay in Serbia

+ they even not speak well Romania

I DON`T RECOGNISE => Vlachs and Molvodean people

Moldovans are slavs. You can see right away the difference from the faces between Moldovans and Romanians€.

where is adrian_buchurest?

Does Romania want to start the dismemberment of Vojvodina? There are also Romanian "minorities" in this area as well. This could easily backfire on them. Besides pressing for Hungarian minority rights in Vojvodina, Hungary could also press for greater autonomy of Hungarians in Romania. -Brian Ghilliotti.

Related to my last comment, I put the word minorities in quotes because I get the impression that everyone in Vojvodina feels like a minority.

Yes Romania could veto but if Europe threatens to return all the romanian gypsies flooding the EU Romania will think twice or even thrice before vetoing Serbia. The only card Romania has in its hands in the Joker!

The fact that they need to veto us to make us respect human rights is bad enough in and of itself.

But nationalists will come up with an excuse to not do as they say.

Romanians stand by Serbia, and Serbia will make EU stronger and more balanced. No way RO would ever block Serbia. Sounds like wishful thinking by those that benefit from keeping these natural friends apart.

So normal crooked Serbs and their incorrigible governments representatives pretending https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs_of_Serbia#Legal_status to be Vlach or other minorities. No one takes Serbs seriously anymore with their crooked subterfuge ways. They have been pissing off all their neighbors for more then a century.

I have no idea why do these has beens bother? No one is going to ask Romania what it thinks of Serbia joining the EU. Look at what happened to Croatia. Davor made himself look so foolish with those statements until Merkel told him to shut up.

Dont get me wrong I hope Serbia is vetoed but making stupid statements then being unable to do anything is worse.

The agency added that the number of Vlachs in Serbia is "estimated" at a quarter of a million, but that only 35,330 people declared themselves as Vlachs in the last census, while 29,332 said they were ethnic Romanians.

So the Vlachs/Romanians in Serbia will decide what to call themselves. Neither the Serbian nor Romanian government should dictate to these people their own national identity. It is not up to anyone else. Certainly not up to the Romanian government to impose their will on Serbia. The people will determine what they want to be called. But hey, if this stalls Serbia on its EU path while Serbia still pays lip service to EU aspirations so it can compete for more funds from Brussels, then I am all for it. It's the best position to be in.

These "Vlachs" also have the right to return to Romania which they should do at the earliest opportunity.

I have no idea why do these has beens bother? No one is going to ask Romania what it thinks of Serbia joining the EU
(sj, 18 August 2016 13:32)

I totally agree with the CE of B92 forums sj, as always. The EU must immediately change the EU treaties to comply with the command of the CE of B92 forums sj above that Romania's approval must not be required!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

So the Vlachs/Romanians in Serbia will decide what to call themselves.
(Ari Gold, 18 August 2016 13:26)

They have. They call themselves Vlachs (Vlah/Vlajna/Vlasi) and they've been calling them that long before the union of Wallachia and Moldavia decided to call itself "Romania" as a way of trying to prove greater territorial ancestry to the lands they claim as their own from the Hungarians.

Note also that Basescu is referring to those in Serbia's central-southern region, and not those in Vojvodina who call themselves, and are recognized by Serbia as, "Romanians". He knows he can only be specific but he also knows he's got no card to play in this because Vlasi consider Serbia their home, not Romania. Funny anecdote - they along with ethnic Serbs in the region complain about Romanian migrant workers coming there and refer to them as "cigani".

So much for ethnic solidarity.

I thought serbs and romanians were brothers . oh , I was wrong . ha ha ha .. You tried to block kosovo , but other countries do kick your butt very well... you think you can lie the world ? they can see that you are the same milloshevic countrie.. your way to eu with this mentality is going to be long..

There is a very large hungarian minority in romania.....and they want thier rights.the romanians should be carefull what they wish for. And now that the turks turn away fron nato the many nuclear weapons from incirlik airbase will be restationed in romania....if war breaks out romania will be vaporized and the only romanians left alive may well be in serbia.....be careful what you wish for rumuni

Possibly the time has come to reform all the countries in the EU. It is sad that one of the poorest countries in EU is able to waive a stick as their own people in their own country may be deprived.

My wife is a Vlajna and she never considered her self as a Romanian.I am a Serb she tells everybody and the Vlasi that i know all consider them selves as Serbs

I totally agree with the CE of B92 forums sj, as always. The EU must immediately change the EU treaties to comply with the command of the CE of B92 forums sj above that Romania's approval must not be required!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 18 August 2016 15:53)

The village idiot has spoken.

I thought serbs and romanians were brothers . oh , I was wrong . ha ha ha ..
(real, 19 August 2016 00:47)

Serbs and Romanians get along fine. Serbia is Romania's only neighbor that hasn't gone to war with it. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about but thought you'd look smart writing something.

thank god, please do nobody in Serbia wants to join the EU but the government..countries want out not in.....like UK....;p

I don`t recognise thoese Vlachs

To stay there in Serbia , we need less people in Romania

If gdp grow and people are less , is better

Those traitors to stay in Serbia

+ they even not speak well Romania

I DON`T RECOGNISE => Vlachs and Molvodean people

Moldovans are slavs. You can see right away the difference from the faces between Moldovans and Romanians€.

"No one takes Serbs seriously..."
(Lenard, 19 August 2016 09:36)

LOL! No one takes you seriously, either.

so let him...

where is adrian_buchurest?

Does Romania want to start the dismemberment of Vojvodina? There are also Romanian "minorities" in this area as well. This could easily backfire on them. Besides pressing for Hungarian minority rights in Vojvodina, Hungary could also press for greater autonomy of Hungarians in Romania. -Brian Ghilliotti.

Related to my last comment, I put the word minorities in quotes because I get the impression that everyone in Vojvodina feels like a minority.