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Wednesday, 17.08.2016.

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Western and Russian media report about Biden's visit

U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden's <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=08&dd=16&nav_id=98921" class="text-link" target= "_blank">visit</a> to Serbia has been reported by foreign media - but Western and Russian reporters had different takes on it.

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Cvija

pre 7 godina

If somebody bombed you on purpose, his apologizing does not mean anything.
If some other American that did not want bombing to happen, apologize for what
Clinton, Biden, Albright did, that could be sincere apology.
Most of Americans are arrogant and not apologetic, of course there are nice people in America too.

rote kapelle

pre 7 godina

US Special Forces : rote, So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!!

NOT AT ALL! The USA has won the last elections in Serbia in April you know but then something went wrong and they fail to enjoy the victory. OH THOSE RUSSIANS I’d say … The problem is not Biden but the Serbian duet!


DMudgee : When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into …

If you really interested in Napoleon wars please remind me tomorrow to prove you that most people know almost nothing about the time.

US Special Forces

pre 7 godina

So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.
(rote, 17 August 2016 13:38)


rote,
So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!! If you want to know the truth, many Americans wish they had bombed Serbia more heavily. Serbia got off easy, however, next time the glove will come off the fist.

DMudgee

pre 7 godina

When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into a ridgid class structure - so bad a grocer's daughter could not marry a publican's son. 'War is a great leveller' is the observation of what happened, as the divisions collapsed with men from all walks of life fighting side by side and, too often, dying together.

The same will happen for the 'oligarch and the rest' symptomatic of Russia - in Ukraine: Oligarch's sons will lie side by side with men who sold their labour to buy their bread and meat in the summer sun.

I can't speak for other countries, but Australia's armed forces have been warning its politicians - seduced by Washington's big talk about it's place in and knowledge of the world - that Russia's flag will rise again. There are no excuses. No noveau intellectual (or historical) platitude will change that.

Bob

pre 7 godina

I think rote and sj are what I would call 'a vocal minority'.

They do not represent the general view, but are driven by more extreme views of the world.

They obviously experience an amount of bitterness in their lives.

I feel a little sad for them. ....But not a lot.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Sj the ignorant:

You said " just how stupid could the American voter be"?

The Vice President was appointed by the President....

Actually with Milosevic,Karadzic ,Dodic,Nikolic,Vucic,Dacic,and Mladic ....
Just how stupid could Serb voters be??

twindales

pre 7 godina

@smart Serb, I don't think Serbs have anything to be ashamed of in your relations with the US. And I don't think Serbia is humiliating itself far from it in fact. Isn't it about time Serbia took its seat within the family of nations instead of allowing Croatia to so call lead the region. I'm not a great fan of Vucic, but what I do think is that he's being advised very well. I saw him speak to students at the London School of Economics and was very impressed with his inclusive attitude. There were Serbs now based in London who were fairly critical of him but he offered them a hearing and was very keen to hear what they had to say.

rote

pre 7 godina

Expressed his condolences and begged pardon those are rather different things. At least in Russia. Everybody remembers how Erdogan experimented with the formulations. First he said that the "didn’t mean" worsening the relations with Russia. Then he said he was "disappointed" that it happened so. Next came words that he was "sorry" over the incident. The he said that he felt "regret" ect. Russian is a great language and there was a good chance that Erdogan will go on experimenting. But he was wise enough to ask the Kazakhstan embassy to find appropriate Russian words that could be accepted by Putin. This is how words ПРИНОШУ СВОИ ИЗВИНЕНИЯ appeared and it gave way to the current developments. It wasn't ПРОШУ ПРОСТИТЬ but was enough to unfreeze the relations. So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.

Bob

pre 7 godina

Vucic knows what Milosevic didn't.

International politics and diplomacy needs to be kept friendly.

Milosevic was too good at making enemies, and look what happened.

rote

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

(adrian_bucharest, 17 August 2016 10:57)


БЛАЖЕН, КТО ВЕРУЕТ - ТЕПЛО ЕМУ НА СВЕТЕ !

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

What this photo represents is humiliation and embarrassment to all Serbs.
We are the laughing stock of Europe.
U.S needs to get OUT of Serbia.
Their not our friends or allies.
Vucic is such a big a$$ licker and an embarrassment to be our leader.

sj

pre 7 godina

Joe Biden you can shove your condolences up the passage where the sun does not shines.

This clown is only in Belgrade as a last hurrah before finishing up as VP. Good way to burn up those loan dollars. I suppose he can considering the US already signed up for an other trillion in May.

One can only wonder just how stupid the American voter can be.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

What this photo represents is humiliation and embarrassment to all Serbs.
We are the laughing stock of Europe.
U.S needs to get OUT of Serbia.
Their not our friends or allies.
Vucic is such a big a$$ licker and an embarrassment to be our leader.

sj

pre 7 godina

Joe Biden you can shove your condolences up the passage where the sun does not shines.

This clown is only in Belgrade as a last hurrah before finishing up as VP. Good way to burn up those loan dollars. I suppose he can considering the US already signed up for an other trillion in May.

One can only wonder just how stupid the American voter can be.

Bob

pre 7 godina

Vucic knows what Milosevic didn't.

International politics and diplomacy needs to be kept friendly.

Milosevic was too good at making enemies, and look what happened.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Sj the ignorant:

You said " just how stupid could the American voter be"?

The Vice President was appointed by the President....

Actually with Milosevic,Karadzic ,Dodic,Nikolic,Vucic,Dacic,and Mladic ....
Just how stupid could Serb voters be??

Bob

pre 7 godina

I think rote and sj are what I would call 'a vocal minority'.

They do not represent the general view, but are driven by more extreme views of the world.

They obviously experience an amount of bitterness in their lives.

I feel a little sad for them. ....But not a lot.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

rote

pre 7 godina

Expressed his condolences and begged pardon those are rather different things. At least in Russia. Everybody remembers how Erdogan experimented with the formulations. First he said that the "didn’t mean" worsening the relations with Russia. Then he said he was "disappointed" that it happened so. Next came words that he was "sorry" over the incident. The he said that he felt "regret" ect. Russian is a great language and there was a good chance that Erdogan will go on experimenting. But he was wise enough to ask the Kazakhstan embassy to find appropriate Russian words that could be accepted by Putin. This is how words ПРИНОШУ СВОИ ИЗВИНЕНИЯ appeared and it gave way to the current developments. It wasn't ПРОШУ ПРОСТИТЬ but was enough to unfreeze the relations. So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.

twindales

pre 7 godina

@smart Serb, I don't think Serbs have anything to be ashamed of in your relations with the US. And I don't think Serbia is humiliating itself far from it in fact. Isn't it about time Serbia took its seat within the family of nations instead of allowing Croatia to so call lead the region. I'm not a great fan of Vucic, but what I do think is that he's being advised very well. I saw him speak to students at the London School of Economics and was very impressed with his inclusive attitude. There were Serbs now based in London who were fairly critical of him but he offered them a hearing and was very keen to hear what they had to say.

rote

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

(adrian_bucharest, 17 August 2016 10:57)


БЛАЖЕН, КТО ВЕРУЕТ - ТЕПЛО ЕМУ НА СВЕТЕ !

Cvija

pre 7 godina

If somebody bombed you on purpose, his apologizing does not mean anything.
If some other American that did not want bombing to happen, apologize for what
Clinton, Biden, Albright did, that could be sincere apology.
Most of Americans are arrogant and not apologetic, of course there are nice people in America too.

DMudgee

pre 7 godina

When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into a ridgid class structure - so bad a grocer's daughter could not marry a publican's son. 'War is a great leveller' is the observation of what happened, as the divisions collapsed with men from all walks of life fighting side by side and, too often, dying together.

The same will happen for the 'oligarch and the rest' symptomatic of Russia - in Ukraine: Oligarch's sons will lie side by side with men who sold their labour to buy their bread and meat in the summer sun.

I can't speak for other countries, but Australia's armed forces have been warning its politicians - seduced by Washington's big talk about it's place in and knowledge of the world - that Russia's flag will rise again. There are no excuses. No noveau intellectual (or historical) platitude will change that.

US Special Forces

pre 7 godina

So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.
(rote, 17 August 2016 13:38)


rote,
So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!! If you want to know the truth, many Americans wish they had bombed Serbia more heavily. Serbia got off easy, however, next time the glove will come off the fist.

rote kapelle

pre 7 godina

US Special Forces : rote, So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!!

NOT AT ALL! The USA has won the last elections in Serbia in April you know but then something went wrong and they fail to enjoy the victory. OH THOSE RUSSIANS I’d say … The problem is not Biden but the Serbian duet!


DMudgee : When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into …

If you really interested in Napoleon wars please remind me tomorrow to prove you that most people know almost nothing about the time.

sj

pre 7 godina

Joe Biden you can shove your condolences up the passage where the sun does not shines.

This clown is only in Belgrade as a last hurrah before finishing up as VP. Good way to burn up those loan dollars. I suppose he can considering the US already signed up for an other trillion in May.

One can only wonder just how stupid the American voter can be.

rote

pre 7 godina

Expressed his condolences and begged pardon those are rather different things. At least in Russia. Everybody remembers how Erdogan experimented with the formulations. First he said that the "didn’t mean" worsening the relations with Russia. Then he said he was "disappointed" that it happened so. Next came words that he was "sorry" over the incident. The he said that he felt "regret" ect. Russian is a great language and there was a good chance that Erdogan will go on experimenting. But he was wise enough to ask the Kazakhstan embassy to find appropriate Russian words that could be accepted by Putin. This is how words ПРИНОШУ СВОИ ИЗВИНЕНИЯ appeared and it gave way to the current developments. It wasn't ПРОШУ ПРОСТИТЬ but was enough to unfreeze the relations. So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

What this photo represents is humiliation and embarrassment to all Serbs.
We are the laughing stock of Europe.
U.S needs to get OUT of Serbia.
Their not our friends or allies.
Vucic is such a big a$$ licker and an embarrassment to be our leader.

rote

pre 7 godina

an answer for ROTE AND SJ

When i said Romania is not the puppet of the West it had to do with economical policy , have nothing to do with military base with Nato and this kind of geo-political stuff . In Romania we didn`t listened the IMF or WORLD BANK for measures as they do in Serbia . The result most big economical grow up from Europe in 2015 and at moment in 2016 +6% .

That is what i meant

(adrian_bucharest, 17 August 2016 10:57)


БЛАЖЕН, КТО ВЕРУЕТ - ТЕПЛО ЕМУ НА СВЕТЕ !

Bob

pre 7 godina

Vucic knows what Milosevic didn't.

International politics and diplomacy needs to be kept friendly.

Milosevic was too good at making enemies, and look what happened.

twindales

pre 7 godina

@smart Serb, I don't think Serbs have anything to be ashamed of in your relations with the US. And I don't think Serbia is humiliating itself far from it in fact. Isn't it about time Serbia took its seat within the family of nations instead of allowing Croatia to so call lead the region. I'm not a great fan of Vucic, but what I do think is that he's being advised very well. I saw him speak to students at the London School of Economics and was very impressed with his inclusive attitude. There were Serbs now based in London who were fairly critical of him but he offered them a hearing and was very keen to hear what they had to say.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Sj the ignorant:

You said " just how stupid could the American voter be"?

The Vice President was appointed by the President....

Actually with Milosevic,Karadzic ,Dodic,Nikolic,Vucic,Dacic,and Mladic ....
Just how stupid could Serb voters be??

Bob

pre 7 godina

I think rote and sj are what I would call 'a vocal minority'.

They do not represent the general view, but are driven by more extreme views of the world.

They obviously experience an amount of bitterness in their lives.

I feel a little sad for them. ....But not a lot.

US Special Forces

pre 7 godina

So what Biden said yesterday is not enough I think. And this is how it was interpreted by most of the media here. But Serbs may think different of course as well as different Serbs may think different. Some of them work in Europe and do not want visa problems if Seselj takes the seat. So they vote for the sellouts and for the Shqiptars.
(rote, 17 August 2016 13:38)


rote,
So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!! If you want to know the truth, many Americans wish they had bombed Serbia more heavily. Serbia got off easy, however, next time the glove will come off the fist.

DMudgee

pre 7 godina

When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into a ridgid class structure - so bad a grocer's daughter could not marry a publican's son. 'War is a great leveller' is the observation of what happened, as the divisions collapsed with men from all walks of life fighting side by side and, too often, dying together.

The same will happen for the 'oligarch and the rest' symptomatic of Russia - in Ukraine: Oligarch's sons will lie side by side with men who sold their labour to buy their bread and meat in the summer sun.

I can't speak for other countries, but Australia's armed forces have been warning its politicians - seduced by Washington's big talk about it's place in and knowledge of the world - that Russia's flag will rise again. There are no excuses. No noveau intellectual (or historical) platitude will change that.

rote kapelle

pre 7 godina

US Special Forces : rote, So you really believe the US, through Biden, was going to ask Serbia forgiveness. Ha, Ha, Ha !!!

NOT AT ALL! The USA has won the last elections in Serbia in April you know but then something went wrong and they fail to enjoy the victory. OH THOSE RUSSIANS I’d say … The problem is not Biden but the Serbian duet!


DMudgee : When Britain fought Napoleon it was divided into …

If you really interested in Napoleon wars please remind me tomorrow to prove you that most people know almost nothing about the time.

Cvija

pre 7 godina

If somebody bombed you on purpose, his apologizing does not mean anything.
If some other American that did not want bombing to happen, apologize for what
Clinton, Biden, Albright did, that could be sincere apology.
Most of Americans are arrogant and not apologetic, of course there are nice people in America too.