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Croatia protests: Serbia treats us in revisionist manner

The Croatian Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs has sent a protest note to Serbia over "unacceptable statements" made by the country's top officials.

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EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.

sj

pre 7 godina

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)

High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Our resident AI on ice again LOL. Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.

J

pre 7 godina

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 26 July 2016 16:13)

How many jobs does Zlatan have, first a striker for PSG, now a historian. No wonder he's not a serious one. :-)

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
====================
What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
=====================
Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.

MikeC

pre 7 godina

Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.

no navi

pre 7 godina

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)

Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Navi

pre 7 godina

Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.

aaa

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)

Good luck telling the HDZ that

twindales

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.

Sieg Fail

pre 7 godina

Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.

no navi

pre 7 godina

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator

John

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3081623/Serbia-rehabilitates-WWII-royalist-killed-collaborating-Nazis.html

Ian

pre 7 godina

Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.

sj

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball

Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.

John

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3081623/Serbia-rehabilitates-WWII-royalist-killed-collaborating-Nazis.html

sj

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.

no navi

pre 7 godina

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator

Ian

pre 7 godina

Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.

Sieg Fail

pre 7 godina

Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.

no navi

pre 7 godina

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)

Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.

twindales

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.

aaa

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)

Good luck telling the HDZ that

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.

MikeC

pre 7 godina

Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball

Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing

EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
====================
What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
=====================
Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.

sj

pre 7 godina

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)

High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

J

pre 7 godina

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 26 July 2016 16:13)

How many jobs does Zlatan have, first a striker for PSG, now a historian. No wonder he's not a serious one. :-)

sj

pre 7 godina

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Our resident AI on ice again LOL. Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Serbs and Croats are the same thing even in sport games both are good at same things for example water polo , basketball

Serbs Croats is the same thing only hate each other but they are as people from different regions from Romania = > same thing

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.

Ian

pre 7 godina

Ari Gold, your comments are full of incorrect rhetoric. Stepinac condemned Jasenovac. Stepinac condemned the murder of minorities right from the pulpit of the Cathedral in Zagreb. When he was arrested, the entire world protested. Stepinac's trial was nothing more than a communist snow job.

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.

no navi

pre 7 godina

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since 1991 and just rehabilitated the patron saint of the NDH.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 13:37)

Says the country engaged in historical revisionism since the 1980s and previously rehabilitated their own chetnik collaborator

John

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3081623/Serbia-rehabilitates-WWII-royalist-killed-collaborating-Nazis.html

sj

pre 7 godina

Stepinac saved hundreds of Serbs and Jews. He was tried by the criminal communist government of Tito's post war blodd thirsty Yugoslavs. Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Yes Stepinac saved them right into Jasenovac concentration camp. Unlike Ante Pavelic, Draza Mihajlovic was decorated by Truman. Next you Croats are going to peddle how Ante Pavelic also saved Serbs.
As for your Kovac bleating about Serbia interfering in Croat affairs, the answer is VETO Serbia’s entry into the EU, please, if you can LOL.
Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Stop Comparing us (croats) with serbs.. we are not the same.
(real, 26 July 2016 17:26)

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.

Sieg Fail

pre 7 godina

Actual revisionism of pro Nazi collaborators already happened in Serbia...
[link]
(John, 26 July 2016 12:30)

Funny how this "pro Nazi collaborator" had a price on his head by the Germans equal to the same amount they put for Tito. Meanwhile, there's photos of Stepinac shaking hands with Pavelic, who might I add is still commemorated in Croatian Catholic churches every year while brainwashed Croat youths give the Nazi salute and chant NDH slogans at football matches without thinking anything is wrong as they listen to fascist lyrics sung by Thompson.

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Any serious historian who has studied Stepinac agrees that he was not a war criminal.
(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ian, 26 July 2016 12:41)

The Catholic Church had a policy of the spreading Catholicism and their shock troops were Croats and Ukrainian ultra nationalists (those in black shirts that shot a few people during the first days the coup). The Vatican called the Orthodox Schismatics and to “save” them from hell they had to turn them towards the Papacy – yes this is true.
He and his Bishops turned a blind eye towards 1/3 to be converted to Catholicism (note Stepinac never objected to the conversions) 1/3 killed and 1/3 driven out. There is not one shred of evidence to show Stepinac objected to any of these NDH actions; not one. In fact Stepinac’s correspondence was the opposite.
During the war years the Catholic Church in NDH had hundreds of its priests and monks (notably Franciscans) in the Ustasha movement and over 600 were in war crimes lists.
There have been instances throughout Europe where Catholic Bishops had openly written to authorities condemning Nazi crimes but not one letter was found with the signature of Stepinac.

aaa

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.
(twindales, 26 July 2016 15:54)

Good luck telling the HDZ that

no navi

pre 7 godina

Correct. One group collaborated with the Nazis. The other resisted them. Thanks for being honest.
(Navi, 26 July 2016 18:47)

Correct. One group has acknowledge its involvement with the Nazis. The other is refusing to deal with its past. Thanks for being honest.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Well documented? Please show me any proof that he blessed concentration camps, because so far I've only seen statements by other people and the proof of our own savagery.

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

twindales

pre 7 godina

Listen people. Yes there were horrible things done to both communities during and after WW2 , Germany and France patched their relationship up for the sake of future generations. Can we not see Croatia, Albania and Serbia doing the same - you're neighbours who trade. Never forget the past but don't let the past control the future.

MikeC

pre 7 godina

Serbia has itself to blame. Letting Croatia build shoppingmalls in Serbia and flooding Serbia with low quality product made in Croatia. Croat singers can come to Serbia while Serbian ones are not allowed in Ustashia. These neo nazies need us more than we need them. Why are we being such suckers? Not to mention the Kosovo albanians who for example come to Serbia to give birth but at the same time consider Kosovo to be independent. Wake up Serbia! Stop being a sucker! Tell the filth to shove it where the sun don't shine.

sj

pre 7 godina

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 28 July 2016 15:23)

High as a kite, talk BS while babbling. LOL

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
Psst that was what you Albos bros were not happy with LOL.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what he did, but if Draza's crimes can't be proven, I don't think his can be either.
(Vojvodina, 27 July 2016 09:31)
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Maybe because the records were destroyed?
Where is the transcript from his trial?

Peggy

pre 7 godina

Stepinac's corpse, which is on display in Croatia's main cathedral like some ghastly display to fascism needs to be ground up in a wood chipper and thrown into the Sava.
(Sieg Fail, 26 July 2016 14:32)
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What have the fish done to deserve that? That evil thing would have them vomiting till they die.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

J

pre 7 godina

Zlatan Hasanbegovic isn't a serious historian.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 26 July 2016 16:13)

How many jobs does Zlatan have, first a striker for PSG, now a historian. No wonder he's not a serious one. :-)

sj

pre 7 godina

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Our resident AI on ice again LOL. Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Ps Albanians don’t like Australian daily mail. They think its an unreliable source of information.
(sj, 26 July 2016 12:57)

They are obviously wrong since the CE of B92 forums sj has determined that Daily Mail is a reliable source of information.

Indeed, it was Daily Mail that determined that there were thousands of "ethnic-Albanian Kosovans fleeing the political and economic persecution that came in the years after genocidal dictator Slobadan Milosevic came to power in Serbia".

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 26 July 2016 19:02)

And indeed the Daily Mail also wrote that more than 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.
(sj, 27 July 2016 09:41)

Ok... it sounds like we are in agreement than that Milosevic was a genocidal dictator and that 300 Albanians from Kosovo were fighting for ISIS.

I'm so excited to have contributed to the research of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 27 July 2016 20:02)

Psst you need to make you communications clear not babbling on to your self LOL.
(sj, 28 July 2016 14:05)

I think the conclusion by the CE of B92 forums sj that Daily Mail is a reliable source is very clear. But if you believe that the CE of B92 forums sj was babbling and was not clear in his/her analysis, I have no further comment :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

By its very definition, it is Croatia that is participating in historical revisionism. The savagery of the ustashe is well documented. Croatia honoring a man who blessed concentration camps and forcefully converted over 100,000 people shows what little shame the fascist HDZ really has.
(Ari Gold, 26 July 2016 10:59)

Ari,
One need only go back and read your other ridiculous posts to discover you are a pathological liar. Nice try though.