"Serbia would vote like Britain - but we remain on EU path"

I hope the Serbs will be able to avoid the disaster that the EU has become. It is no fun to arrive late at a party when all the beer has been drunk and there is vomit on the floor.

Ugh...wow. He just said he does not care what his people want...it only matters what he thinks is the right thing. Sounds kind of SCARY to me. He is definitely not a democratic leader- he is an EU stooge.

Don't worry Mr Prime Minister, there are many EU member states that feel the same way also but they will have the opportunity to express their views in a referendum. This is just the beginning.

I guess he doesn't get the point.

e will be long gone by the time Serbia is up for entry (if there is anything to even enter).

you need a new leader ,nations are leaving the EU and this guy still wants in... does he drink or do drugs ?.....more nations are going to leave.......and the other thing Serbia needs is to stay to the east did he or you people see that the president of china and 200 business peoples were just in Serbia ? are Serbs not intelligent ?...... Russia ,china and the brics are the future and is here.....now England is out....another thing is you Serbs in the region and Serbia especially have to start having more babies for the future are your nation will be gone in the near future ,start thinking and not acting stupid....I notice Serbs from the regions like krajina (Nikola tesla) and Bosnia are the smart....they want a future and fought and have babies .....so all you Serbs world wide should start thinking of the future of your people......my god...........your population in the last censes was 7.2 million and now as of 2016 is
7,041,599 ,do you realise this....

Yesterday, the European Union was not the same as it was before the last financial crisis, and today it is further diminished. Will France leave next? Greece? Italy? It's getting late and the party is almost over.

The European Union will fail.

Pure demagoguery. Referendum would be close, but I think that EU would win (we saw the alternative in the 90's).

Still, this is only because the majority of the people flat out don't know what European Union is, and believe the conspiracy theorists like Seselj who claim that it attempts to enslave our people without a shred of evidence.
In light of this, I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.
Fascists will claim it's rigged anyway.
(Vojvodina, 24 June 2016 13:39

To fake "Shqipvodina",
When you live in Serbia ,invest in Serbia and vote in Serbia,then you will have your say!.There is with you NO "we",as you write,you a not Serb citizen!!.Worry about , Tirana.
All these fake non ,Serb's living out side like you!.Invest into Serbia and put your mouth where your money is!!.

I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.

##

Wow!?!?

What about the people who neither want the nationalistic dickheads from yesterday nor the soviet-union-holy-roman-empire 2.0 aka EU ? When will we get our referendum ?? What about the people who just want to live in peace and prosperity with all people of the world together without being ruled and opressed by a tiny oligarchy ?? Can be not just bury the national states and the anti-democratic supranational monster all together and make one world ? Can we just stop spending half of our wealth on arms for killing each other while making the oligarchy even richer and giving them more power??

Aleksandar Vucic says that although he is "sure that citizens of Serbia would vote similar to the British," Serbia "will remain on the path of the EU."


Looks like the beginning of the sentence was said by one man and the end by another! It’s a moment of true and everybody will have to take his mask off!

I want to give Vucic the benefit of the doubt here (as stupid as that may be). Serbia is obviously not the wealthy country that the UK is. Perhaps if we read between the lines we can see that the EU will have to slow down enlargement and Serbia can now drag its feet towards meeting stupid EU demands. All the while not publicly coming out against the EU for the sake of investments. I'm sure private investors will care a lot less about EU membership now that a country has left. But maybe for a country like Serbia still in transition, it does them good to see Serbia at least officially on the EU path.

In the meantime, deepen relations with Russia and especially China and bide time. EU funds will be harder to come by now that a major donor country is out. But try to get what's left and the EU will fall apart on its own. Good riddance.

Britain is an empire. It has more benefits of doing things on its own than abiding by the rules of 25 more countries.

The main point what everybody is missing is that Serbia is smart enough to identify the EU as nothing but what it is: Yugoslavia Redux.
The Serbs know very well how it ended and they know how the EU will end. This is the reason why nobody in Serbia is insane enough to join the EU. Actually a very rare example of a nation who really learned from the past. Bravo.

What does he mean ?
From a prime minister is a quiet strange declaration

Ari : deepen relations with Russia and especially China ...


China will not send you their army nor their voluteers
(rote, 24 June 2016 16:52)

I was simply pointing out that China is now the world's largest economy and with Xi's recent visit to Serbia, China has solidified its interest in expanding its role in the Balkans which Serbia should take advantage of. Obviously I want Serbia to have greater use of its free trade agreement with Russia, would never place sanctions on Russia and value Russia's support at the UN. But I think the biggest room for growth in relationships is with China at the moment. But both are very welcomed as far as I'm concerned.

I honestly would have to say that Vucic should stop all this nonsense once and for all. He is doing nothing but making himself look more and more like a fool. There is so much Serbia can do without the EU then with it. You can make jobs in your country with the right partners and the right moves without selling your identity to fake organizations like the EU! You can make your own world unions with people who have not bombed and killed your own people. You can make long lasting powerful partners like China, Russia, Korea, UAE and work import export firms with them. Serbia can be the most powerful nation in all of Europe but only if you stop selling your soul to these politicians in the EU who have already sold your nation and parts of your nations like Kosovo. I visit Serbia often and out of 3,560 people I have asked in 12 months Do you want Serbia to join the EU I have written down 84 that said Yes. No one can prosper more from the EU then Vucic. Come on Serbia wake up!

Pure demagoguery. Referendum would be close, but I think that EU would win (we saw the alternative in the 90's).

Still, this is only because the majority of the people flat out don't know what European Union is, and believe the conspiracy theorists like Seselj who claim that it attempts to enslave our people without a shred of evidence.
In light of this, I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.
Fascists will claim it's rigged anyway.

Ari : deepen relations with Russia and especially China ...


China will not send you their army nor their voluteers

1) Please read the words again and again.
2) Please serve yourself with your favorite booze
3) Please tell honestly, does a single word what he said make sense, one way or the other.

Our brave fearless leader is full of gooey, smelly, brownish substance.

I can only hope that Vucic is saying what EU wants to hear.
He is certainly saying what Serbs want to hear by saying that he knows Serbs don't want EU and he hears them. Now the second bit about still forging ahead to EU I hope is only for EU's consumption.
If it isn't then he is very much a dictator which should be removed at the next election (provided he is still talking the same).
Serbia can be fast tracked bye the time new elections happen, especially if there are a few vacancies in the union but I hope not.

Ари : But I think the biggest room for growth in relationships is with China at the moment.

China has more money but potentially Russia is able to invest more to Serbia. Because we have big special interest in the region while China needs incomes only. Russian companies invest much money abroad. Don’t forget that our currency reserves fell down because the government gave some USD 200 BLN. to the big companies and those money did not vanish this time. The biggest stop signal for the RF investments is always your own government. Can you chose a more national minded one? Please! If Vucic is not back from his nirvana you will have another chance soon.

I don't think that it matters. We are not joining the EU anyways. They just can't say it this point because we're getting funds and straightening out our country. I think that we are just pretending to move towards the EU. At least I hope so! But the scary thing is that the EU is keeping a lot of countries stable. How do you think Croatia will react if the EU falls apart? Then they'll have nothing to lose along with their ravaged economy. Scary with the EU and scary without.

The path to the EU is just a path and if the EU goes away, the path remains. There are many things on the way to the EU that Serbia wants and needs whether it wants to join the EU or not. And meanwhile, Serbia must have diplomatic relations with the EU. What better way to flatter the EU than to seek membership? Serbia is no more obliged to be serious about EU membership than those in charge of the EU who make it very clear that they want Serbia to recognize Kosovo as independent as a condition of membership.

The real wild card in all this is NATO. Many in BrExit spoke of NATO remaining a guarantor of British security. To what extent has NATO changed as a consequence of the structure of the EU?

BrExit was also endorsed by US presidential candidate Trump who has also said that as president he will have a close look at NATO to make some changes. And he wants better relations with Russia. If Trump wins the presidency, this could mean that a whole new order in Europe is in the works.

svabo,
However, Serbia was not very smart by letting its country get bombed and becoming the pariah of Europe.
(The Count of Kosova, 25 June 2016 15:31)
Yes,1999 Serbia was dumb(Milosevic),now 2016 getting heavyweight's China,UAE,Russia,EU to invest is smart,and as well Japan,Korea,Iran,USA,and Kazakhstan to invest is smart move forward.

Actually a very rare example of a nation who really learned from the past. Bravo.
(svabo, 25 June 2016 00:37)


svabo,
However, Serbia was not very smart by letting its country get bombed and becoming the pariah of Europe.

I have never once seen a rational explanation of the benefits of becoming an EU member. Any attempt to explain has been meagre and mostly relies on material already provided by the EU on its website. Switzerland is a good example of surviving outside the EU.
Despite all this noise about Brexit there were no tidal waves or earthquakes after the vote and no World War 3. On the Scots vetoing the plebiscite, they can dream on because you cannot ignore that vote to leave the EU.
There is no question that Serbs would vote against the EU, so the negotiations will be a lot tougher since Serbia will not cave in on many points.
If the EU is to survive then a looser confederation style of union maybe the go, but if not then bye bye EU. Regardless the EU as it stood prior to the vote is finished.

Glupic the first ( Idiot the first ) : spoke again : whatever you believe, support or not it is a shame to have a Prime Minister spitting on the face of his people : no respect for their voice ( first let them speak and dont presume nationalist predomnance ), second talk and be civilized as were the Brits. SHAME . SHAME . SHAME. Not sure if as per all statement Serbia deserves EU, but for sure it deserves a better leader that will stop lies and will offer a future and not retro communist dreams ( Nor China, Nor Russia not even UAS will ever bring anything.... just dream of a past that never existed neither.... ). Wake up people ....

Our brave fearless leader is full of gooey, smelly, brownish substance.
(DEDA CVETKO, 25 June 2016 19:35)


As are the people who voted for him, including you, Deda.

Pure demagoguery. Referendum would be close, but I think that EU would win (we saw the alternative in the 90's).

Still, this is only because the majority of the people flat out don't know what European Union is, and believe the conspiracy theorists like Seselj who claim that it attempts to enslave our people without a shred of evidence.
In light of this, I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.
Fascists will claim it's rigged anyway.

Pure demagoguery. Referendum would be close, but I think that EU would win (we saw the alternative in the 90's).

Still, this is only because the majority of the people flat out don't know what European Union is, and believe the conspiracy theorists like Seselj who claim that it attempts to enslave our people without a shred of evidence.
In light of this, I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.
Fascists will claim it's rigged anyway.
(Vojvodina, 24 June 2016 13:39

To fake "Shqipvodina",
When you live in Serbia ,invest in Serbia and vote in Serbia,then you will have your say!.There is with you NO "we",as you write,you a not Serb citizen!!.Worry about , Tirana.
All these fake non ,Serb's living out side like you!.Invest into Serbia and put your mouth where your money is!!.

Ari : deepen relations with Russia and especially China ...


China will not send you their army nor their voluteers

Ari : deepen relations with Russia and especially China ...


China will not send you their army nor their voluteers
(rote, 24 June 2016 16:52)

I was simply pointing out that China is now the world's largest economy and with Xi's recent visit to Serbia, China has solidified its interest in expanding its role in the Balkans which Serbia should take advantage of. Obviously I want Serbia to have greater use of its free trade agreement with Russia, would never place sanctions on Russia and value Russia's support at the UN. But I think the biggest room for growth in relationships is with China at the moment. But both are very welcomed as far as I'm concerned.

Actually a very rare example of a nation who really learned from the past. Bravo.
(svabo, 25 June 2016 00:37)


svabo,
However, Serbia was not very smart by letting its country get bombed and becoming the pariah of Europe.

What about the people who neither want the nationalistic dickheads from yesterday nor the soviet-union-holy-roman-empire 2.0 aka EU ? When will we get our referendum ?? What about the people who just want to live in peace and prosperity with all people of the world together without being ruled and opressed by a tiny oligarchy ?? Can be not just bury the national states and the anti-democratic supranational monster all together and make one world ? Can we just stop spending half of our wealth on arms for killing each other while making the oligarchy even richer and giving them more power??

I want to give Vucic the benefit of the doubt here (as stupid as that may be). Serbia is obviously not the wealthy country that the UK is. Perhaps if we read between the lines we can see that the EU will have to slow down enlargement and Serbia can now drag its feet towards meeting stupid EU demands. All the while not publicly coming out against the EU for the sake of investments. I'm sure private investors will care a lot less about EU membership now that a country has left. But maybe for a country like Serbia still in transition, it does them good to see Serbia at least officially on the EU path.

In the meantime, deepen relations with Russia and especially China and bide time. EU funds will be harder to come by now that a major donor country is out. But try to get what's left and the EU will fall apart on its own. Good riddance.

you need a new leader ,nations are leaving the EU and this guy still wants in... does he drink or do drugs ?.....more nations are going to leave.......and the other thing Serbia needs is to stay to the east did he or you people see that the president of china and 200 business peoples were just in Serbia ? are Serbs not intelligent ?...... Russia ,china and the brics are the future and is here.....now England is out....another thing is you Serbs in the region and Serbia especially have to start having more babies for the future are your nation will be gone in the near future ,start thinking and not acting stupid....I notice Serbs from the regions like krajina (Nikola tesla) and Bosnia are the smart....they want a future and fought and have babies .....so all you Serbs world wide should start thinking of the future of your people......my god...........your population in the last censes was 7.2 million and now as of 2016 is
7,041,599 ,do you realise this....

The European Union will fail.

Ари : But I think the biggest room for growth in relationships is with China at the moment.

China has more money but potentially Russia is able to invest more to Serbia. Because we have big special interest in the region while China needs incomes only. Russian companies invest much money abroad. Don’t forget that our currency reserves fell down because the government gave some USD 200 BLN. to the big companies and those money did not vanish this time. The biggest stop signal for the RF investments is always your own government. Can you chose a more national minded one? Please! If Vucic is not back from his nirvana you will have another chance soon.

I guess he doesn't get the point.

e will be long gone by the time Serbia is up for entry (if there is anything to even enter).

Yesterday, the European Union was not the same as it was before the last financial crisis, and today it is further diminished. Will France leave next? Greece? Italy? It's getting late and the party is almost over.

Aleksandar Vucic says that although he is "sure that citizens of Serbia would vote similar to the British," Serbia "will remain on the path of the EU."


Looks like the beginning of the sentence was said by one man and the end by another! It’s a moment of true and everybody will have to take his mask off!

Don't worry Mr Prime Minister, there are many EU member states that feel the same way also but they will have the opportunity to express their views in a referendum. This is just the beginning.

I hope the Serbs will be able to avoid the disaster that the EU has become. It is no fun to arrive late at a party when all the beer has been drunk and there is vomit on the floor.

The main point what everybody is missing is that Serbia is smart enough to identify the EU as nothing but what it is: Yugoslavia Redux.
The Serbs know very well how it ended and they know how the EU will end. This is the reason why nobody in Serbia is insane enough to join the EU. Actually a very rare example of a nation who really learned from the past. Bravo.

What does he mean ?
From a prime minister is a quiet strange declaration

Britain is an empire. It has more benefits of doing things on its own than abiding by the rules of 25 more countries.

I believe that we should join without referendum to avoid unnecessary risks.

##

Wow!?!?

Ugh...wow. He just said he does not care what his people want...it only matters what he thinks is the right thing. Sounds kind of SCARY to me. He is definitely not a democratic leader- he is an EU stooge.

The path to the EU is just a path and if the EU goes away, the path remains. There are many things on the way to the EU that Serbia wants and needs whether it wants to join the EU or not. And meanwhile, Serbia must have diplomatic relations with the EU. What better way to flatter the EU than to seek membership? Serbia is no more obliged to be serious about EU membership than those in charge of the EU who make it very clear that they want Serbia to recognize Kosovo as independent as a condition of membership.

The real wild card in all this is NATO. Many in BrExit spoke of NATO remaining a guarantor of British security. To what extent has NATO changed as a consequence of the structure of the EU?

BrExit was also endorsed by US presidential candidate Trump who has also said that as president he will have a close look at NATO to make some changes. And he wants better relations with Russia. If Trump wins the presidency, this could mean that a whole new order in Europe is in the works.

1) Please read the words again and again.
2) Please serve yourself with your favorite booze
3) Please tell honestly, does a single word what he said make sense, one way or the other.

I honestly would have to say that Vucic should stop all this nonsense once and for all. He is doing nothing but making himself look more and more like a fool. There is so much Serbia can do without the EU then with it. You can make jobs in your country with the right partners and the right moves without selling your identity to fake organizations like the EU! You can make your own world unions with people who have not bombed and killed your own people. You can make long lasting powerful partners like China, Russia, Korea, UAE and work import export firms with them. Serbia can be the most powerful nation in all of Europe but only if you stop selling your soul to these politicians in the EU who have already sold your nation and parts of your nations like Kosovo. I visit Serbia often and out of 3,560 people I have asked in 12 months Do you want Serbia to join the EU I have written down 84 that said Yes. No one can prosper more from the EU then Vucic. Come on Serbia wake up!

Our brave fearless leader is full of gooey, smelly, brownish substance.

svabo,
However, Serbia was not very smart by letting its country get bombed and becoming the pariah of Europe.
(The Count of Kosova, 25 June 2016 15:31)
Yes,1999 Serbia was dumb(Milosevic),now 2016 getting heavyweight's China,UAE,Russia,EU to invest is smart,and as well Japan,Korea,Iran,USA,and Kazakhstan to invest is smart move forward.

I don't think that it matters. We are not joining the EU anyways. They just can't say it this point because we're getting funds and straightening out our country. I think that we are just pretending to move towards the EU. At least I hope so! But the scary thing is that the EU is keeping a lot of countries stable. How do you think Croatia will react if the EU falls apart? Then they'll have nothing to lose along with their ravaged economy. Scary with the EU and scary without.

I can only hope that Vucic is saying what EU wants to hear.
He is certainly saying what Serbs want to hear by saying that he knows Serbs don't want EU and he hears them. Now the second bit about still forging ahead to EU I hope is only for EU's consumption.
If it isn't then he is very much a dictator which should be removed at the next election (provided he is still talking the same).
Serbia can be fast tracked bye the time new elections happen, especially if there are a few vacancies in the union but I hope not.

Our brave fearless leader is full of gooey, smelly, brownish substance.
(DEDA CVETKO, 25 June 2016 19:35)


As are the people who voted for him, including you, Deda.

Glupic the first ( Idiot the first ) : spoke again : whatever you believe, support or not it is a shame to have a Prime Minister spitting on the face of his people : no respect for their voice ( first let them speak and dont presume nationalist predomnance ), second talk and be civilized as were the Brits. SHAME . SHAME . SHAME. Not sure if as per all statement Serbia deserves EU, but for sure it deserves a better leader that will stop lies and will offer a future and not retro communist dreams ( Nor China, Nor Russia not even UAS will ever bring anything.... just dream of a past that never existed neither.... ). Wake up people ....

I have never once seen a rational explanation of the benefits of becoming an EU member. Any attempt to explain has been meagre and mostly relies on material already provided by the EU on its website. Switzerland is a good example of surviving outside the EU.
Despite all this noise about Brexit there were no tidal waves or earthquakes after the vote and no World War 3. On the Scots vetoing the plebiscite, they can dream on because you cannot ignore that vote to leave the EU.
There is no question that Serbs would vote against the EU, so the negotiations will be a lot tougher since Serbia will not cave in on many points.
If the EU is to survive then a looser confederation style of union maybe the go, but if not then bye bye EU. Regardless the EU as it stood prior to the vote is finished.