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Friday, 17.06.2016.

17:52

"It's Russia, not Serbia, standing in way of Kosovo in UN"

Kosovo Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj has told the Kosovo Clan TV that Belgrade was not the one standing in the way of "Kosovo's UN membership."

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku, AY is a troll. The best thing to do is ignore him/her :).
(Reader, 22 June 2016 20:58)

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Gjon Marku hates.
Amnesty Yugoslavia loves.

A better future for all will be based on love, not hate. That is unless your are the USA or one of its proxies advancing policies with Sunni and Shiite, Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim Slavs, Nrth Sth Koreans, Pakistan-India, China Taiwan etc.
Inter-ethnic hatred is a big business and a central component of US foreign policy.

In contrast to Reader, Gjon Marku and their US sponsored bigotry, I say ignore hate! Embrace Love!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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I'm glad that you recognize your first capital as Belgrade. I'm not familiar with second, or other inferior, capital city designations. If you do decide to visit Belgrade, you should know that you can take a Serbian Railways train from Kraljevo to Kosovska Mitrovica and the only paper you require are dinars to pay the fare. Two trains run regularly every day.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 16:04)

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I love all ethnicities.
Amnesty Yugodlavia loves.
Gjon hates.

I agree. You and your hatred are "done".

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 21 June 2016 14:45)

Oh NO! You exposed me as a anti Yugoslav. Well, there is nothing to expose. Just ask. I would have told you that I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. Thank god this stupid idea is dead.

Only an inhuman misanthrope would still cheer to something that caused 250k dead civilians.

I`m done with you.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!
(Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 20:35)

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it.

You call it a fetish and an obsession, I say: I`m a friendly reminder about what was and a warning about what can be.

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 19:21)

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We are all Yugoslavs. Every post you read and every comment you make contributes to the prolongation and exchange of the multi/ethnic Yugoslav ideal. Your fetish with the B92 comment section and your obsession with all Yugoslavia, displays your deficiencies, dillusions, and self-contradictions.

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 17:12)

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.

Free

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo.

William UK

I`m an Albanian and i live in the region too.

Most of Serbs who post here live in Western countries too. That`s why they write in English.

What the f. is your problem being neither Serbian nor Albanian and not living in the region as well?

Or having a Serbian wife makes you the Solomon of the Balkans?

Do we tell you to get out of Northern Ireland becase you invaded it?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Now we can have a future (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 14:02)

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Separatism, apartheid, ethnic racism, isolation, lack of visa-free access to the EU, misery, with 100 000s of thousands residents trying to escape is the future you have brought yourself and the condemned population. Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo. We are getting a large number of Albanians tagging along with refugees and migrating to the UK by boat, crossing the channel. It is very easy to cheer all those people struggling in Kosovo and Albania while living in the west.

What happened to Yugoslavia was a disaster and it was largely caused by the US and Germany to divide and conquer that region. Keep arguing and stay underdeveloped, then you are much easier to control.. a simple rule for Albanians.

Serbia is a little more complicated since it is making deals with Russia and China. The west doesn't like that.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The question is for yourself…
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:04

It was worth it because our lives depended on it. WE are finally free from terror/dictatorship and I`m happy for all other countries too, who managed to escape. We paid a high price but life is much better now. Any attempt to change that is going to end with the same result. War. Its irreversible.

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:27)

6 out of 8 Yugoslav Federation bodies choose to leave. Imagine EU waging war against England if they leave. Yugoslavs never existed. A failed project from the beginning, only held together by the use of force instead of free will and equality. The lands have been returned to their rightful owners. Now we can have a future.

Now you answer me. After losing everything. Was it worth it?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Was it worth it ? (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)
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The question is for yourself and the apartheid terrorists such as the KLA who initiated the wars. You're the ones that have isolated yourselves in miserable, fenced-in ethnically homogenous ghettos.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, should have been respected. If these people didn't want to stay in apartheid separatist ghettos they and their land should have been " let go".

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 19 June 2016 15:38)

Of course it was set up to target only one group. Yugoslavia and its self proclaimed sucessor Serbia. It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people. But NO. Lets start a war (Slovenia), lets start another war (croatia), lets just roll with another one (Bosnia) and while we are at it, lets do what we do best and start another one (Kosovo). 4 Wars, 250k dead civilians, hundreds of thousends of refugees. You lost everything and alienated all your neighbors.

Was it worth it?

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

sasa.p,
Regarding your comment made on 19 June 2016 at 03:10

Only you and Tirana Guy begin your last sentence incorrectly with "P's". This proves you are a duplicitous fraud. Ha ha, ha, hoisted by your own petard.

rote

pre 7 godina

Марина Генц поговорила с жителями Косова о настоящем и будущем республики … Не представляю и даже не хочу себе представить будущее своих детей здесь. Население здесь в большинстве достаточно агрессивное. Сегодня они твои лучшие друзья и соседи, а завтра прирежут тебя без всякого зазрения совести. Они считают себя европейцами, потому что пьют пиво … слишком уж местное население ориентировано на Турцию … ведут себя или как злые дети, которые то пытаются себе присвоить христианские святыни … Сербы всегда с русскими. — Так ведь выборы выиграла скорее прозападная партия? — Ну и что?! Бизнес есть бизнес. Ну, работа такая! А люди всегда русских любят и поддерживают. Ну и по нынешним понятиям не такая уж она и прозападная. — На какую идеологию и мифологию опирается албанский национализм? Обычно в таких идеологиях не последнюю роль играет национальный фольклор, мифы, а албанцы своих мифов совсем не знают. … Это и есть новая албанская идеология. Делают из бандита героя. … — Тачи вор, недавно половину его партии попересажали в тюрьму. Рамуш из нашей области. А ещё Рамуш — настоящий герой Армии Освобождения Косово. … Моя реплика, что из Гааги вообще то почти все очень быстро возвращаются, кроме сербов, повисает в воздухе. … из бедных регионов Косово уезжает в ИГИЛ* значительное число боевиков. … Следующие мои собеседники — албанские полицейские … Мы тут все связаны с криминалом так или иначе В городе работы нет

http://svpressa.ru/blogs/article/148314/

rote

pre 7 godina

It's evident that to have Russia as a partner Shqiptares need to settle things with Serbs. It's clear that the old (American)stake does not work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DYiRGmHMZQ

Free

pre 7 godina

When Albania declared its independence there were many people (some of them Serbian) calling it "Artificial creature" and "Stillborn country".

Few years later Yugoslavia was born too. There were many optimistic people about this new big powerful country.

More than 100 years later the History showed us very well which was "an artificial creature and stillborn country". Yugoslavia was twice created and twice ended up with genocides by its own people against its own people.

Now we hear the same thing about Kosovo. "Artificial creature and stillborn country".

Of course, there is no easy way for Kosovo in the future, but Kosovo has had much much more hard times, including WWI Serbian genocides, Pasic's ethnical cleanising, Rankovic's "Brotherhood and Unity" terrorism and Milosevic's terrorist-genocidal ethnical cleansing war. And during all these oppressions, poverty was always always there.

So will Kosovo survive poverty without oppression after she survived oppression and poverty combined? I think, the chances are in her favour.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY.
(Gjon Marku, 19 June 2016 11:00)

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Even blind ICTY apologists defend the circus by claiming it only judged individuals and not any one group. Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:04)

When was this multiethnic Yugoslav paradise? Do you mean repressive communist Yugoslavia under Tito that made everyone a second class citizent who did not join the communist party or do you mean nationalist dictatorship Yugoslavia under Stambolic/Milosevic that made everyone a second class citizen who was not an orthodox Serb?

Little odd that every federation body left Yugoslavia as if it was fleeing the pest, leaving only Vojvodina stuck with you. Not to forget 10yrs of war and 250k dead civilians, making multiethnic Yugoslavian paradise and its successor Serbia responsible for the biggest human tragedies since Nazi-Germany. Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY. Yes, you sure are the champions of multi-ethnicity because you just killed regardless of faith, nationality, gender or age.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!
(The Count of Kosova,

I think you got it all wrong ,mate!.
I couldn't give a F,about visas!.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:25)

All these keywords in one post. Who are you? SEO/SEA manager for Tomo? How do you do that? Wow. So smart. Much propaganda. Very specialist.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress. You may be here now, but steadily you're being exterminated. As an honest Saudi diplomat once said "... it's difficult know which is worse: having the USA as an ally or enemy."

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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Your dillusional words are as hollow as your false proclamation of visa-free access for a KiM population that is desparate to leave your dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!

Slavonia

pre 7 godina

Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?
(Vojvodina, 18 June 2016 13:34)

The West already has a willing and gullible partner in Vucic. Serbia had its Maidan movement years ago.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system. You can obstruct and delay but you cannot stop us and you've nothing to offer. You're just a creepy stalkin neighbor

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

So Russia is subtly undermining our EU accession for its own gains... Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?

Tirana Guy

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yes,lets do it , straight away.You come and originise it,and live with us.
P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.

Pop

pre 7 godina

Its a very sad state of affairs!Kosovo became one of the poorest region in Europe,place that has most ISIS recruits,and extremely intolerant to non Albanians communities!It is a mecca for terrorism and crime!It was a cradle of serbian and christian culture,architecture....etc. It's a shame for Europe and Usa to let it happened!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

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I watched and learned about your dillusional and false predictions on Visa-free access to the EU.

Watch and laugh may be more accurate.

Paul

pre 7 godina

Nobody in their right mind in Europe really wants independence for Kosovo. It is strictly a sadistic obsession against Serbs with no benefits for anyone. Russia and China are doing Europe a huge favor by keeping an independent Kosovo out of the UN.

Crimea had no business being attached to Ukraine and the way Ukraine degenerated into neo-fascism, anything that expedited formalities in re-attaching Crimea to Russia were entirely justified.

Roxha Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)


Then the solution is easy. We move to albania. Sounds resonable.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yeah go ahead. Make sure you get America's approval if they don't hurt themselves laughing so hard. While you're at it, launch another war in Macedonia and declare Shqiperie etnike while you're at it, just for sh!ts and giggles.

Al

pre 7 godina

Russia has nothing to gain from stopping Kosovo joining the UN. If they are standing in the way they do so only to maintain good relations with Serbia. Russia itself doesn't gain from it.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.
(William UK, 17 June 2016 17:05)

Will,

So are you suggesting Kosovo join Albania?

This is the dream of 95% of population in Kosovo, but UN is not everything Taiwan is not in UN will never be in UN and they have better standert of living than all countries in Balkans. Kosovo does not need to be in UN.

Kosovo needs:

1. to clean corrupt politicians.
2. start utilizing young educated people, giving them a chance.
3. improve rule of law ( in applying the laws they already have).

In the north build in the sun hill homes together with Serbs and make 1 Albanian home and 1 Serbian Home, build 1 orthodox church, Catholic Church and Mosque.

People in this neighbourhood go to a Special school where Albanian kids and Serbs go together get to play sports together from kindergarten.

Serbs get to keep their educational plan from Serbia but they get to learn Albanian, and Albanian same thing but get Serbian language class.

This is how you work to build trust, and move together to better future.

Both Albanians and Serbs are hostage to this silly game politicians play, flare up people's emotions anytime there is pressure on economy and standard of life.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Why would the US or the west backstab Ukraine for Kosovo? Some Albanians here are just dreamers thinking Crimea will be traded.

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.

Russia has everything it needs regarding Crimea and for Kosovo to join the UN, it needs agreement from both Russia and China. If Serbia joins the EU, it will be with Kosovo out of the UN. The EU is in a poorly position at the moment with all of the crises going on.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come."
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

Why should the West agree to the illegal annexation of Crimea, in exchange for Russia recognizing Kosovo? Do you really think this tiny black crime hole in Europe called Kosovo is more important than Ukraine? Funny.

But yes, Putin has some points, it's kind of absurd to recognize an independent Kosovo, self proclaimed by some 'people of Kosovo' belonging to an ethnic minority (which already has an own country, called Albania), and not to recognize the more than dubious 'referendum' in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

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Dude, the "west", I.e. The USA doesn't want to agree with Russia. The rude awakening is already happening to vassal NATO members who are being forced to expand their militaries and send more money to the mother military industrial complex. Agree with Russia.....how naive.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

It took nearly 10 years for one of them to figure out what's painfully obvious to everyone else? Hoxhaj must have spent some time studying abroad to be this intuitive.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Russia has specifically stated that it will do what is in the interests of the Serbian people, implying it will not do what the Serbian government requests. Russia will not allow another Montenegro where its NATO membership is pushed by the government against the will of the people.

So by insisting that Kosovo must join the UN as part of Serbia's EU membership, it takes control out of the hands of the EU and Serbia and places it firmly in the hands of Russia and China.

Russia understands full well that recognition of Kosovo is overwhelmingly against the wishes of citizens in Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

"As long as Belgrade has a partner in the (UN) Security Council, we will be forced to reach a legally binding agreement that will allow us to join the UN."

Doesn't that just suck? Being forced to follow the law.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj has told the Kosovo Clan TV that Belgrade was not the one standing in the way of "Kosovo's UN membership.
Instead, he said, it was Russia's veto."

Oh, wow. It must have been really hard, at least for Kosovo politicians, to find out about the proceedings of becoming an UN member. Everybody else in the world knew long ago that everything starts in the UNSC. And sorry, it's obvious that Russia will veto any attempt of a unilaterally self-proclaimed state of an ethnic minority to become a member.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia is going to trade in Kosovo for Crimea. They dont care about Serbia or Serbs. They dont care about their own people, why would they care about some far away country.

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.

observer

pre 7 godina

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

exactly!!! Russia is going to drop Serbia in a heart beat, when it is in it's own intrest. Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Russia has specifically stated that it will do what is in the interests of the Serbian people, implying it will not do what the Serbian government requests. Russia will not allow another Montenegro where its NATO membership is pushed by the government against the will of the people.

So by insisting that Kosovo must join the UN as part of Serbia's EU membership, it takes control out of the hands of the EU and Serbia and places it firmly in the hands of Russia and China.

Russia understands full well that recognition of Kosovo is overwhelmingly against the wishes of citizens in Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

"As long as Belgrade has a partner in the (UN) Security Council, we will be forced to reach a legally binding agreement that will allow us to join the UN."

Doesn't that just suck? Being forced to follow the law.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj has told the Kosovo Clan TV that Belgrade was not the one standing in the way of "Kosovo's UN membership.
Instead, he said, it was Russia's veto."

Oh, wow. It must have been really hard, at least for Kosovo politicians, to find out about the proceedings of becoming an UN member. Everybody else in the world knew long ago that everything starts in the UNSC. And sorry, it's obvious that Russia will veto any attempt of a unilaterally self-proclaimed state of an ethnic minority to become a member.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

It took nearly 10 years for one of them to figure out what's painfully obvious to everyone else? Hoxhaj must have spent some time studying abroad to be this intuitive.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia is going to trade in Kosovo for Crimea. They dont care about Serbia or Serbs. They dont care about their own people, why would they care about some far away country.

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Why would the US or the west backstab Ukraine for Kosovo? Some Albanians here are just dreamers thinking Crimea will be traded.

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.

Russia has everything it needs regarding Crimea and for Kosovo to join the UN, it needs agreement from both Russia and China. If Serbia joins the EU, it will be with Kosovo out of the UN. The EU is in a poorly position at the moment with all of the crises going on.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.
(William UK, 17 June 2016 17:05)

Will,

So are you suggesting Kosovo join Albania?

This is the dream of 95% of population in Kosovo, but UN is not everything Taiwan is not in UN will never be in UN and they have better standert of living than all countries in Balkans. Kosovo does not need to be in UN.

Kosovo needs:

1. to clean corrupt politicians.
2. start utilizing young educated people, giving them a chance.
3. improve rule of law ( in applying the laws they already have).

In the north build in the sun hill homes together with Serbs and make 1 Albanian home and 1 Serbian Home, build 1 orthodox church, Catholic Church and Mosque.

People in this neighbourhood go to a Special school where Albanian kids and Serbs go together get to play sports together from kindergarten.

Serbs get to keep their educational plan from Serbia but they get to learn Albanian, and Albanian same thing but get Serbian language class.

This is how you work to build trust, and move together to better future.

Both Albanians and Serbs are hostage to this silly game politicians play, flare up people's emotions anytime there is pressure on economy and standard of life.

observer

pre 7 godina

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

exactly!!! Russia is going to drop Serbia in a heart beat, when it is in it's own intrest. Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

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Dude, the "west", I.e. The USA doesn't want to agree with Russia. The rude awakening is already happening to vassal NATO members who are being forced to expand their militaries and send more money to the mother military industrial complex. Agree with Russia.....how naive.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

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I watched and learned about your dillusional and false predictions on Visa-free access to the EU.

Watch and laugh may be more accurate.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system. You can obstruct and delay but you cannot stop us and you've nothing to offer. You're just a creepy stalkin neighbor

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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Your dillusional words are as hollow as your false proclamation of visa-free access for a KiM population that is desparate to leave your dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.

Pop

pre 7 godina

Its a very sad state of affairs!Kosovo became one of the poorest region in Europe,place that has most ISIS recruits,and extremely intolerant to non Albanians communities!It is a mecca for terrorism and crime!It was a cradle of serbian and christian culture,architecture....etc. It's a shame for Europe and Usa to let it happened!

Paul

pre 7 godina

Nobody in their right mind in Europe really wants independence for Kosovo. It is strictly a sadistic obsession against Serbs with no benefits for anyone. Russia and China are doing Europe a huge favor by keeping an independent Kosovo out of the UN.

Crimea had no business being attached to Ukraine and the way Ukraine degenerated into neo-fascism, anything that expedited formalities in re-attaching Crimea to Russia were entirely justified.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress. You may be here now, but steadily you're being exterminated. As an honest Saudi diplomat once said "... it's difficult know which is worse: having the USA as an ally or enemy."

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yeah go ahead. Make sure you get America's approval if they don't hurt themselves laughing so hard. While you're at it, launch another war in Macedonia and declare Shqiperie etnike while you're at it, just for sh!ts and giggles.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

So Russia is subtly undermining our EU accession for its own gains... Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:04)

When was this multiethnic Yugoslav paradise? Do you mean repressive communist Yugoslavia under Tito that made everyone a second class citizent who did not join the communist party or do you mean nationalist dictatorship Yugoslavia under Stambolic/Milosevic that made everyone a second class citizen who was not an orthodox Serb?

Little odd that every federation body left Yugoslavia as if it was fleeing the pest, leaving only Vojvodina stuck with you. Not to forget 10yrs of war and 250k dead civilians, making multiethnic Yugoslavian paradise and its successor Serbia responsible for the biggest human tragedies since Nazi-Germany. Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY. Yes, you sure are the champions of multi-ethnicity because you just killed regardless of faith, nationality, gender or age.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:25)

All these keywords in one post. Who are you? SEO/SEA manager for Tomo? How do you do that? Wow. So smart. Much propaganda. Very specialist.

Al

pre 7 godina

Russia has nothing to gain from stopping Kosovo joining the UN. If they are standing in the way they do so only to maintain good relations with Serbia. Russia itself doesn't gain from it.

Roxha Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)


Then the solution is easy. We move to albania. Sounds resonable.

Slavonia

pre 7 godina

Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?
(Vojvodina, 18 June 2016 13:34)

The West already has a willing and gullible partner in Vucic. Serbia had its Maidan movement years ago.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY.
(Gjon Marku, 19 June 2016 11:00)

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Even blind ICTY apologists defend the circus by claiming it only judged individuals and not any one group. Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

sasa.p,
Regarding your comment made on 19 June 2016 at 03:10

Only you and Tirana Guy begin your last sentence incorrectly with "P's". This proves you are a duplicitous fraud. Ha ha, ha, hoisted by your own petard.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!
(The Count of Kosova,

I think you got it all wrong ,mate!.
I couldn't give a F,about visas!.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come."
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

Why should the West agree to the illegal annexation of Crimea, in exchange for Russia recognizing Kosovo? Do you really think this tiny black crime hole in Europe called Kosovo is more important than Ukraine? Funny.

But yes, Putin has some points, it's kind of absurd to recognize an independent Kosovo, self proclaimed by some 'people of Kosovo' belonging to an ethnic minority (which already has an own country, called Albania), and not to recognize the more than dubious 'referendum' in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 19 June 2016 15:38)

Of course it was set up to target only one group. Yugoslavia and its self proclaimed sucessor Serbia. It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people. But NO. Lets start a war (Slovenia), lets start another war (croatia), lets just roll with another one (Bosnia) and while we are at it, lets do what we do best and start another one (Kosovo). 4 Wars, 250k dead civilians, hundreds of thousends of refugees. You lost everything and alienated all your neighbors.

Was it worth it?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Was it worth it ? (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)
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The question is for yourself and the apartheid terrorists such as the KLA who initiated the wars. You're the ones that have isolated yourselves in miserable, fenced-in ethnically homogenous ghettos.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!
(Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.

Tirana Guy

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yes,lets do it , straight away.You come and originise it,and live with us.
P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.

Free

pre 7 godina

When Albania declared its independence there were many people (some of them Serbian) calling it "Artificial creature" and "Stillborn country".

Few years later Yugoslavia was born too. There were many optimistic people about this new big powerful country.

More than 100 years later the History showed us very well which was "an artificial creature and stillborn country". Yugoslavia was twice created and twice ended up with genocides by its own people against its own people.

Now we hear the same thing about Kosovo. "Artificial creature and stillborn country".

Of course, there is no easy way for Kosovo in the future, but Kosovo has had much much more hard times, including WWI Serbian genocides, Pasic's ethnical cleanising, Rankovic's "Brotherhood and Unity" terrorism and Milosevic's terrorist-genocidal ethnical cleansing war. And during all these oppressions, poverty was always always there.

So will Kosovo survive poverty without oppression after she survived oppression and poverty combined? I think, the chances are in her favour.

rote

pre 7 godina

It's evident that to have Russia as a partner Shqiptares need to settle things with Serbs. It's clear that the old (American)stake does not work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DYiRGmHMZQ

rote

pre 7 godina

Марина Генц поговорила с жителями Косова о настоящем и будущем республики … Не представляю и даже не хочу себе представить будущее своих детей здесь. Население здесь в большинстве достаточно агрессивное. Сегодня они твои лучшие друзья и соседи, а завтра прирежут тебя без всякого зазрения совести. Они считают себя европейцами, потому что пьют пиво … слишком уж местное население ориентировано на Турцию … ведут себя или как злые дети, которые то пытаются себе присвоить христианские святыни … Сербы всегда с русскими. — Так ведь выборы выиграла скорее прозападная партия? — Ну и что?! Бизнес есть бизнес. Ну, работа такая! А люди всегда русских любят и поддерживают. Ну и по нынешним понятиям не такая уж она и прозападная. — На какую идеологию и мифологию опирается албанский национализм? Обычно в таких идеологиях не последнюю роль играет национальный фольклор, мифы, а албанцы своих мифов совсем не знают. … Это и есть новая албанская идеология. Делают из бандита героя. … — Тачи вор, недавно половину его партии попересажали в тюрьму. Рамуш из нашей области. А ещё Рамуш — настоящий герой Армии Освобождения Косово. … Моя реплика, что из Гааги вообще то почти все очень быстро возвращаются, кроме сербов, повисает в воздухе. … из бедных регионов Косово уезжает в ИГИЛ* значительное число боевиков. … Следующие мои собеседники — албанские полицейские … Мы тут все связаны с криминалом так или иначе В городе работы нет

http://svpressa.ru/blogs/article/148314/

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, should have been respected. If these people didn't want to stay in apartheid separatist ghettos they and their land should have been " let go".

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The question is for yourself…
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:04

It was worth it because our lives depended on it. WE are finally free from terror/dictatorship and I`m happy for all other countries too, who managed to escape. We paid a high price but life is much better now. Any attempt to change that is going to end with the same result. War. Its irreversible.

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:27)

6 out of 8 Yugoslav Federation bodies choose to leave. Imagine EU waging war against England if they leave. Yugoslavs never existed. A failed project from the beginning, only held together by the use of force instead of free will and equality. The lands have been returned to their rightful owners. Now we can have a future.

Now you answer me. After losing everything. Was it worth it?

William UK

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo. We are getting a large number of Albanians tagging along with refugees and migrating to the UK by boat, crossing the channel. It is very easy to cheer all those people struggling in Kosovo and Albania while living in the west.

What happened to Yugoslavia was a disaster and it was largely caused by the US and Germany to divide and conquer that region. Keep arguing and stay underdeveloped, then you are much easier to control.. a simple rule for Albanians.

Serbia is a little more complicated since it is making deals with Russia and China. The west doesn't like that.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Now we can have a future (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 14:02)

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Separatism, apartheid, ethnic racism, isolation, lack of visa-free access to the EU, misery, with 100 000s of thousands residents trying to escape is the future you have brought yourself and the condemned population. Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.

Free

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo.

William UK

I`m an Albanian and i live in the region too.

Most of Serbs who post here live in Western countries too. That`s why they write in English.

What the f. is your problem being neither Serbian nor Albanian and not living in the region as well?

Or having a Serbian wife makes you the Solomon of the Balkans?

Do we tell you to get out of Northern Ireland becase you invaded it?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 19:21)

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We are all Yugoslavs. Every post you read and every comment you make contributes to the prolongation and exchange of the multi/ethnic Yugoslav ideal. Your fetish with the B92 comment section and your obsession with all Yugoslavia, displays your deficiencies, dillusions, and self-contradictions.

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 20:35)

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it.

You call it a fetish and an obsession, I say: I`m a friendly reminder about what was and a warning about what can be.

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 21 June 2016 14:45)

Oh NO! You exposed me as a anti Yugoslav. Well, there is nothing to expose. Just ask. I would have told you that I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. Thank god this stupid idea is dead.

Only an inhuman misanthrope would still cheer to something that caused 250k dead civilians.

I`m done with you.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 16:04)

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I love all ethnicities.
Amnesty Yugodlavia loves.
Gjon hates.

I agree. You and your hatred are "done".

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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I'm glad that you recognize your first capital as Belgrade. I'm not familiar with second, or other inferior, capital city designations. If you do decide to visit Belgrade, you should know that you can take a Serbian Railways train from Kraljevo to Kosovska Mitrovica and the only paper you require are dinars to pay the fare. Two trains run regularly every day.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 17:12)

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku, AY is a troll. The best thing to do is ignore him/her :).
(Reader, 22 June 2016 20:58)

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Gjon Marku hates.
Amnesty Yugoslavia loves.

A better future for all will be based on love, not hate. That is unless your are the USA or one of its proxies advancing policies with Sunni and Shiite, Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim Slavs, Nrth Sth Koreans, Pakistan-India, China Taiwan etc.
Inter-ethnic hatred is a big business and a central component of US foreign policy.

In contrast to Reader, Gjon Marku and their US sponsored bigotry, I say ignore hate! Embrace Love!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia is going to trade in Kosovo for Crimea. They dont care about Serbia or Serbs. They dont care about their own people, why would they care about some far away country.

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.

observer

pre 7 godina

Russia didnt say that they are not going to change their position despite the Serbian Government to help them. It was a warning to the Serbian Government to not try and use this last joker because Russia is going to use it for something they need.

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

exactly!!! Russia is going to drop Serbia in a heart beat, when it is in it's own intrest. Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Russia has specifically stated that it will do what is in the interests of the Serbian people, implying it will not do what the Serbian government requests. Russia will not allow another Montenegro where its NATO membership is pushed by the government against the will of the people.

So by insisting that Kosovo must join the UN as part of Serbia's EU membership, it takes control out of the hands of the EU and Serbia and places it firmly in the hands of Russia and China.

Russia understands full well that recognition of Kosovo is overwhelmingly against the wishes of citizens in Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

"As long as Belgrade has a partner in the (UN) Security Council, we will be forced to reach a legally binding agreement that will allow us to join the UN."

Doesn't that just suck? Being forced to follow the law.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo Foreign Minister Enver Hoxhaj has told the Kosovo Clan TV that Belgrade was not the one standing in the way of "Kosovo's UN membership.
Instead, he said, it was Russia's veto."

Oh, wow. It must have been really hard, at least for Kosovo politicians, to find out about the proceedings of becoming an UN member. Everybody else in the world knew long ago that everything starts in the UNSC. And sorry, it's obvious that Russia will veto any attempt of a unilaterally self-proclaimed state of an ethnic minority to become a member.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come."
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

Why should the West agree to the illegal annexation of Crimea, in exchange for Russia recognizing Kosovo? Do you really think this tiny black crime hole in Europe called Kosovo is more important than Ukraine? Funny.

But yes, Putin has some points, it's kind of absurd to recognize an independent Kosovo, self proclaimed by some 'people of Kosovo' belonging to an ethnic minority (which already has an own country, called Albania), and not to recognize the more than dubious 'referendum' in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:04)

When was this multiethnic Yugoslav paradise? Do you mean repressive communist Yugoslavia under Tito that made everyone a second class citizent who did not join the communist party or do you mean nationalist dictatorship Yugoslavia under Stambolic/Milosevic that made everyone a second class citizen who was not an orthodox Serb?

Little odd that every federation body left Yugoslavia as if it was fleeing the pest, leaving only Vojvodina stuck with you. Not to forget 10yrs of war and 250k dead civilians, making multiethnic Yugoslavian paradise and its successor Serbia responsible for the biggest human tragedies since Nazi-Germany. Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY. Yes, you sure are the champions of multi-ethnicity because you just killed regardless of faith, nationality, gender or age.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is one of the Russian bargening chips for getting the West to agree to the russian occuptation of Crimea. Putin more or less already stated that with his comments concerning the status of both countries / areas. It will be a rude awakening for some people here, but it will come.
(observer, 17 June 2016 13:52)

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Dude, the "west", I.e. The USA doesn't want to agree with Russia. The rude awakening is already happening to vassal NATO members who are being forced to expand their militaries and send more money to the mother military industrial complex. Agree with Russia.....how naive.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system. You can obstruct and delay but you cannot stop us and you've nothing to offer. You're just a creepy stalkin neighbor

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Life has already improved in kosovo big times compared to living under serb apartheid system.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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Your dillusional words are as hollow as your false proclamation of visa-free access for a KiM population that is desparate to leave your dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto.

Ethnic apartheid and separatism is the core of US-supported Albanian political policy in KiM. Multiethnic Yugoslavs are the anti-thesis to your evil and lies.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.
(William UK, 17 June 2016 17:05)

Will,

So are you suggesting Kosovo join Albania?

This is the dream of 95% of population in Kosovo, but UN is not everything Taiwan is not in UN will never be in UN and they have better standert of living than all countries in Balkans. Kosovo does not need to be in UN.

Kosovo needs:

1. to clean corrupt politicians.
2. start utilizing young educated people, giving them a chance.
3. improve rule of law ( in applying the laws they already have).

In the north build in the sun hill homes together with Serbs and make 1 Albanian home and 1 Serbian Home, build 1 orthodox church, Catholic Church and Mosque.

People in this neighbourhood go to a Special school where Albanian kids and Serbs go together get to play sports together from kindergarten.

Serbs get to keep their educational plan from Serbia but they get to learn Albanian, and Albanian same thing but get Serbian language class.

This is how you work to build trust, and move together to better future.

Both Albanians and Serbs are hostage to this silly game politicians play, flare up people's emotions anytime there is pressure on economy and standard of life.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

It took nearly 10 years for one of them to figure out what's painfully obvious to everyone else? Hoxhaj must have spent some time studying abroad to be this intuitive.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Why would the US or the west backstab Ukraine for Kosovo? Some Albanians here are just dreamers thinking Crimea will be traded.

Firstly, Russia has full control over Crimea without any foreign force occupying that territory. Crimea is not seeking independence, it is already an established part of Russia and Russia is already a recognised permanent member of the UN and UNSC. World maps are already being updated to reflect this reality.

Russia has everything it needs regarding Crimea and for Kosovo to join the UN, it needs agreement from both Russia and China. If Serbia joins the EU, it will be with Kosovo out of the UN. The EU is in a poorly position at the moment with all of the crises going on.

Al

pre 7 godina

Russia has nothing to gain from stopping Kosovo joining the UN. If they are standing in the way they do so only to maintain good relations with Serbia. Russia itself doesn't gain from it.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

So Russia is subtly undermining our EU accession for its own gains... Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 June 2016 18:25)

All these keywords in one post. Who are you? SEO/SEA manager for Tomo? How do you do that? Wow. So smart. Much propaganda. Very specialist.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!
(The Count of Kosova,

I think you got it all wrong ,mate!.
I couldn't give a F,about visas!.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Multiethnic Yugoslavia was so great, they got their own Nürnburg-Trials including convictions for Genocide from ICJ and ICTY.
(Gjon Marku, 19 June 2016 11:00)

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Even blind ICTY apologists defend the circus by claiming it only judged individuals and not any one group. Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.

Pop

pre 7 godina

Its a very sad state of affairs!Kosovo became one of the poorest region in Europe,place that has most ISIS recruits,and extremely intolerant to non Albanians communities!It is a mecca for terrorism and crime!It was a cradle of serbian and christian culture,architecture....etc. It's a shame for Europe and Usa to let it happened!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Thank you for agreeing with critics of the judicial farce that the ICTY was in fact set-up to predominantly target one group. The ICTY's political bias was indeed confirmed by one of the ICTY's own judges, Frederick Harhoff.

Your myopic apartheid and separatist philosophy has led to a self-imposed segregation in a miserable fenced-in ghetto. As you've chosen to join your fellow Yugoslavs in civil discourse on this site, you may wish to consider adopting arguments that are not self- contradictory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 19 June 2016 15:38)

Of course it was set up to target only one group. Yugoslavia and its self proclaimed sucessor Serbia. It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people. But NO. Lets start a war (Slovenia), lets start another war (croatia), lets just roll with another one (Bosnia) and while we are at it, lets do what we do best and start another one (Kosovo). 4 Wars, 250k dead civilians, hundreds of thousends of refugees. You lost everything and alienated all your neighbors.

Was it worth it?

Roxha Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)


Then the solution is easy. We move to albania. Sounds resonable.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 7 godina

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yeah go ahead. Make sure you get America's approval if they don't hurt themselves laughing so hard. While you're at it, launch another war in Macedonia and declare Shqiperie etnike while you're at it, just for sh!ts and giggles.

Tirana Guy

pre 7 godina

in Crimea where an ethic minority voted for 'independence' and the joined Russia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 17 June 2016 17:34

Then the solution is easy. We join albania. Sounds resonable.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 19:38)

Yes,lets do it , straight away.You come and originise it,and live with us.
P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

P's see you on 24 June for your birthday!,you then believe me and help me for Western permanent visa !.
(Tirana Guy, 18 June 2016 10:22)



Tirana Guy, (aka sasa.p),
You've given yourself away rather foolishly. Not too bright!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

We've been murdered and raped, we've been called terrorists and delusional, yet here we are. Making progress. Slowly but steady.
(Gjon Marku, 18 June 2016 15:08)

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You and your ISIS / ISIL / Turkey / Saudi / US-covert axis of evil is making backward progress. You may be here now, but steadily you're being exterminated. As an honest Saudi diplomat once said "... it's difficult know which is worse: having the USA as an ally or enemy."

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 21 June 2016 14:45)

Oh NO! You exposed me as a anti Yugoslav. Well, there is nothing to expose. Just ask. I would have told you that I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. Thank god this stupid idea is dead.

Only an inhuman misanthrope would still cheer to something that caused 250k dead civilians.

I`m done with you.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Watch and learn.
(Gjon Marku, 17 June 2016 13:36)

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I watched and learned about your dillusional and false predictions on Visa-free access to the EU.

Watch and laugh may be more accurate.

Paul

pre 7 godina

Nobody in their right mind in Europe really wants independence for Kosovo. It is strictly a sadistic obsession against Serbs with no benefits for anyone. Russia and China are doing Europe a huge favor by keeping an independent Kosovo out of the UN.

Crimea had no business being attached to Ukraine and the way Ukraine degenerated into neo-fascism, anything that expedited formalities in re-attaching Crimea to Russia were entirely justified.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

sasa.p,
Regarding your comment made on 19 June 2016 at 03:10

Only you and Tirana Guy begin your last sentence incorrectly with "P's". This proves you are a duplicitous fraud. Ha ha, ha, hoisted by your own petard.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

It could have been so easy. Just let go of who does not wish to stay. Just respect the will of the people.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, should have been respected. If these people didn't want to stay in apartheid separatist ghettos they and their land should have been " let go".

rote

pre 7 godina

It's evident that to have Russia as a partner Shqiptares need to settle things with Serbs. It's clear that the old (American)stake does not work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DYiRGmHMZQ

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Was it worth it ? (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 09:03)
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The question is for yourself and the apartheid terrorists such as the KLA who initiated the wars. You're the ones that have isolated yourselves in miserable, fenced-in ethnically homogenous ghettos.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The question is for yourself…
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:04

It was worth it because our lives depended on it. WE are finally free from terror/dictatorship and I`m happy for all other countries too, who managed to escape. We paid a high price but life is much better now. Any attempt to change that is going to end with the same result. War. Its irreversible.

Yes it could have been easy. The will of Yugoslavs, who overwhelmingly wanted to stay in Yugoslavia
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 12:27)

6 out of 8 Yugoslav Federation bodies choose to leave. Imagine EU waging war against England if they leave. Yugoslavs never existed. A failed project from the beginning, only held together by the use of force instead of free will and equality. The lands have been returned to their rightful owners. Now we can have a future.

Now you answer me. After losing everything. Was it worth it?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Now we can have a future (Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 14:02)

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Separatism, apartheid, ethnic racism, isolation, lack of visa-free access to the EU, misery, with 100 000s of thousands residents trying to escape is the future you have brought yourself and the condemned population. Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Enjoy your criminal and evil enterprise.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 17:12)

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.

Slavonia

pre 7 godina

Why am I not surprised that they want a Euromaidan in Serbia too?
(Vojvodina, 18 June 2016 13:34)

The West already has a willing and gullible partner in Vucic. Serbia had its Maidan movement years ago.

Free

pre 7 godina

When Albania declared its independence there were many people (some of them Serbian) calling it "Artificial creature" and "Stillborn country".

Few years later Yugoslavia was born too. There were many optimistic people about this new big powerful country.

More than 100 years later the History showed us very well which was "an artificial creature and stillborn country". Yugoslavia was twice created and twice ended up with genocides by its own people against its own people.

Now we hear the same thing about Kosovo. "Artificial creature and stillborn country".

Of course, there is no easy way for Kosovo in the future, but Kosovo has had much much more hard times, including WWI Serbian genocides, Pasic's ethnical cleanising, Rankovic's "Brotherhood and Unity" terrorism and Milosevic's terrorist-genocidal ethnical cleansing war. And during all these oppressions, poverty was always always there.

So will Kosovo survive poverty without oppression after she survived oppression and poverty combined? I think, the chances are in her favour.

rote

pre 7 godina

Марина Генц поговорила с жителями Косова о настоящем и будущем республики … Не представляю и даже не хочу себе представить будущее своих детей здесь. Население здесь в большинстве достаточно агрессивное. Сегодня они твои лучшие друзья и соседи, а завтра прирежут тебя без всякого зазрения совести. Они считают себя европейцами, потому что пьют пиво … слишком уж местное население ориентировано на Турцию … ведут себя или как злые дети, которые то пытаются себе присвоить христианские святыни … Сербы всегда с русскими. — Так ведь выборы выиграла скорее прозападная партия? — Ну и что?! Бизнес есть бизнес. Ну, работа такая! А люди всегда русских любят и поддерживают. Ну и по нынешним понятиям не такая уж она и прозападная. — На какую идеологию и мифологию опирается албанский национализм? Обычно в таких идеологиях не последнюю роль играет национальный фольклор, мифы, а албанцы своих мифов совсем не знают. … Это и есть новая албанская идеология. Делают из бандита героя. … — Тачи вор, недавно половину его партии попересажали в тюрьму. Рамуш из нашей области. А ещё Рамуш — настоящий герой Армии Освобождения Косово. … Моя реплика, что из Гааги вообще то почти все очень быстро возвращаются, кроме сербов, повисает в воздухе. … из бедных регионов Косово уезжает в ИГИЛ* значительное число боевиков. … Следующие мои собеседники — албанские полицейские … Мы тут все связаны с криминалом так или иначе В городе работы нет

http://svpressa.ru/blogs/article/148314/

William UK

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo. We are getting a large number of Albanians tagging along with refugees and migrating to the UK by boat, crossing the channel. It is very easy to cheer all those people struggling in Kosovo and Albania while living in the west.

What happened to Yugoslavia was a disaster and it was largely caused by the US and Germany to divide and conquer that region. Keep arguing and stay underdeveloped, then you are much easier to control.. a simple rule for Albanians.

Serbia is a little more complicated since it is making deals with Russia and China. The west doesn't like that.

Free

pre 7 godina

Reading comments from Albanians it is obvious that none live either in Albania or Kosovo.

William UK

I`m an Albanian and i live in the region too.

Most of Serbs who post here live in Western countries too. That`s why they write in English.

What the f. is your problem being neither Serbian nor Albanian and not living in the region as well?

Or having a Serbian wife makes you the Solomon of the Balkans?

Do we tell you to get out of Northern Ireland becase you invaded it?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 20 June 2016 20:35)

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it.

You call it a fetish and an obsession, I say: I`m a friendly reminder about what was and a warning about what can be.

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

I hate Yugoslavia and everything it stands for. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 16:04)

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I love all ethnicities.
Amnesty Yugodlavia loves.
Gjon hates.

I agree. You and your hatred are "done".

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Why would I visit Belgrad when I can visit our second capital Tirana? To go to Serbia, I need a passport to cross the borders. To go to Albania I only need my drivers licence. A lot has changed, Its just, you cant see it or you choose to ignore it. (Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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I'm glad that you recognize your first capital as Belgrade. I'm not familiar with second, or other inferior, capital city designations. If you do decide to visit Belgrade, you should know that you can take a Serbian Railways train from Kraljevo to Kosovska Mitrovica and the only paper you require are dinars to pay the fare. Two trains run regularly every day.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Knowing that this nightmare called Yugoslavia/Serbia is never coming back, I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you.
(Gjon Marku, 20 June 2016 19:21)

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We are all Yugoslavs. Every post you read and every comment you make contributes to the prolongation and exchange of the multi/ethnic Yugoslav ideal. Your fetish with the B92 comment section and your obsession with all Yugoslavia, displays your deficiencies, dillusions, and self-contradictions.

As most of your fellow residents know, you can travel our common country and visit Belgrade without a visa. You do however require a visa (and electronic detector) to visit Berlin, London, Paris or any other EU state. You're right: this will never change.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Btw. You are here too. This is a Serb site, why dont you go to a Yugoslavia site?? Not even living up to your own standards. Pathetic!
(Gjon Marku, 21 June 2016 11:03)

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This is the comment section of B92, it is not a "Serb site". I am a multi ethnic Yugoslav. My standards are to educate my fellow citizens, some of whom are uni- ethnic pro-apartheid bigots, and expose their hatred and evil to other readers. Thank you for contributing your devoted and important role in my endeavor.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku, AY is a troll. The best thing to do is ignore him/her :).
(Reader, 22 June 2016 20:58)

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Gjon Marku hates.
Amnesty Yugoslavia loves.

A better future for all will be based on love, not hate. That is unless your are the USA or one of its proxies advancing policies with Sunni and Shiite, Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim Slavs, Nrth Sth Koreans, Pakistan-India, China Taiwan etc.
Inter-ethnic hatred is a big business and a central component of US foreign policy.

In contrast to Reader, Gjon Marku and their US sponsored bigotry, I say ignore hate! Embrace Love!