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Thursday, 09.06.2016.

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"Kosovo war was beginning of new world order"

Kosovo and the bombing of Yugoslavia was a turning point for NATO; since then, Western military interventions around the world are no longer even questioned.

Izvor: Deutsche Welle

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?
(rote, 15 June 2016 21:43)

Hardly, during the 1st Balkan wars Russia along with Austria Hungary forced the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks to pull back or Istanbul would have fallen to the advancing Greece. That is fact, not fantasy-unlike the revisionist Slavic history you try to push off on this site. My family tree goes back 12 centuries to the Black Sea Coast of Turkey so your rendition of Ottoman history is utterly false. Have you heard of Zonguldak, Turkey? Predominantly Christian Greek and Armenian merchant traders and miners, the Muslim population was less than 5%. That is just on example of the Greek and Armenian populations that dominated the coastal regions of Turkey. Look it up and compare it to the Montenegrin Coast-than come talk to me about your BS history.

Minors and the State in the Ottoman Empire
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1845451341/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=36XKG3GFDQM8T&coliid=I152KIAGUN238N

rote

pre 7 godina

Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars.

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?

Yugoslavian_Loyal

pre 7 godina

Eastern Europe needs to unite. When will you all realize (especially Albanians) they do not care about you. There is not liberalization. Just Imperialism. Their interest is only their own. They do not even think like humans for humans. They are masters of deception. They play people against one another. They fear China because China is impenetrable from the inside. What good has NATO ever done. Lets put emotion aside and look at the before and after of everything they have been involved with. They strip you of all rights to live and leave you with a nationalist pride and hate. (you are then brainwashed to think it was all worth it). They liberate Kosovo only to leave it with Uranium that spreads cancer. Corrupt officials and hubs of drugs moving through it. It is not Albanian land, it is not Serbian land. It is forever American land. Your perception of independence is what they promise you but you are now a pawn for them, to be tossed whenever your not needed. Why do you think they keep Bosnia together? It is the biggest insurance policy on earth. Very easily they succeed northern kosovo to serbia. Presevo to kosovo, republika srpska to serbia, sansdak to bosnia and other parts of bosnia to croatia. They dont just incase they need us to fight again. Behind close doors they do not respect any of us. We are so below pawns to them. When will you all see it...

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote all you words are worthless propaganda.

Everyone knows Shqiptares are Indigenous to Kosova and bias clouds your brain cells.

And no ....the world will not support your dispicable hungar for more infamous ethnic cleansing.

The truth will free you from your ignorance...

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

"The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo."

How can Serbia survive a war in Kosovo without Russian support? The only other country that offered some support was Greece even though tied up in NATO. Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars. You call the current government in Serbia traitors, Russia's political leaders have made grave errors in its so called "Balkan Policy"

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni: who give to you those lands?

A very good question! Since 1318 when the White Horde invaded Europe these lands were always under our control. Even after the fall of the Whites/Albanians the lands were passed to the Atamans/Ottomans who were the south-western wing of the Great/White Horde. During the Ottomans there were no ethnical conflicts on the Balkans (Bel/Bal Kan/Khan) as you know. Nations were not formed yet because there was no need in them. People of the Ottomans were of two parts Muslims and non-Muslims. Even in 19 century Christians made some 40% of the current Turkish lands while in the Balkans they dominated. Orthodox people of the empire were called Romans (Millet-i Rum) including the Greeks, Bulgars, Montenegrins, Macedonians and part of the Shqiptares. Your other people belonged to the Miliet-i Latin while half of the Shqiptars belonged to the Milliet-i Muslim. That’s why you still have problems with self-identification and call yourselves birds. Yet I admit that you lived somewhere in the region. But Kosovo was the center of Serbia where they placed their most important churches and monasteries. They lived here for centuries until they suffered severe losses in the last two WWs aggravated by their women. I personally think that KIM and some other neighboring lands have to be divided to restore peace in the region. But it will mean cleaning some of the lands from the shqiptars. How to do it without big blood that is the question!

Joni

pre 7 godina

O lala rote! You catch me my dear! You know my father is the godfather, and I… I’m dangerous honey I’m “El Capo”… hahaha .. Mahhh , but I wonder – your teeth are going to fall all down and you still have this backward mentality? Well be better informed my dear Russian that the Russian mafia is the biggest one in Europe, US, so how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? EEE rrote!
Regarding to us, after the fall of Communism in 90, started the war in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, so we had our problems my dear rote, and as you must see here or everywhere we are still always attacked..
It is not easy for our government and people which live in Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, Albania . Our government and our people still lose to much "energy" and money being divided in 6 countries. Is not easy even for a big and rich country imagine for Albania, protecting the rights of its people all the time.
You talk here and blame us that we steal your lands – but I wonder – who give to you those lands – your father, your mother or the holy spirit?

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"NATO was simply protecting the interests of who they saw as oppressed.
Vojvodina"

Ge! What a joke! Have you ever asked yourself how twisted and insane your logic is? It's not just low IQ.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par
(Gerhard, 10 June 2016 17:39)

True, just like massmurder and rape are well documented from Serbia during the 90ies. One article in NYT was followed by two others from the same journalist about how kosovo is fighting ISIS and extremists. All while you still give state receptions to convicted warcriminal generals and name schools after genocide convicted political leaders.

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni : the next slap from Putin

Forget about it coz Putin is crazy about any form of treason. With the bear behind Serbs has nothing to worry about. Their biggest problem is inside their country. As soon as they are a monolith NATO and it local vassals will have to retreat. Chetniks were the pride of the Serbs and of all the anti-fascist states. They were the first to rebel against Hitler on the continent and saved many Russian lives.The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo. NATO would stop to exist and the province would be calm and prospering now. I can see rather a big difference between Shqiptaria and KIM. The last is the plot of mafia while the first is a more or less normal state. There are two obligatory factors for any mafia’s existence. One is a diaspora they can control and the second is a base land where they feel themselves safe. KIM provides both so in a great degree Shqiptars are mafia men even if they are not involved directly. Tell me how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? I do not accuse you but I feel compassion coz it's your tragedy more than your sin. After 500 years in Europe Serbs saved their stubborn Russian spirit. Some moment they also stop to value their lives and welfare. And from this point you have a bad neighbor. Should the Serbian elites stop their games with the west things could develop better for them and for their neighbors.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
Gjon Marku
@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.
cry me a river

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par excellence.

Kosovo recently made the front page of the NY Times with the article, “How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS”. In the real world you all are just following in your ancestors footsteps. Just keeping up the perverted traditions.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
(Gjon Marku

@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

I have said many times that Albanians were always on the wrong side of history, with the empires(Ottoman, Austria-Hungary, Third Reich and USA)and as every empire the had their "world order". This book just proves my point. Only those who do not see are those who dont want to see and accomplices of empire(Albanians). Their role in history was always ugly.
They will one day be ashamed.

Joni

pre 7 godina

I have to admit that i'm worried about what Serbs in this site tell. Uuuu, i'm really worried!!!
No please ---- US hate us, the West hate us, Montenegro hate us, Slovenia hate us, Croatia hate us... (hmm even those Greeks are in the agenda ), Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary hate us to death, for not talking to the rest..
Do you need more slaps from those countries which hate Albanians?
Oh wait, you are really good believers – will turn the other cheek for the next slaps.
And wait for the next slap from Putin – if the west will recognize Crimea – Russia will recognize Kosovo. Does it will take time ? Yes! But we are patient!

Joni

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

Oh, yes we heard... and ?? Kosovo was cleaned up once by the West and US - but no problem there is a saying : The dog who bark did not bites!

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku


P.S. Do you know that the Bourbons as well as their ancestor Capétiens, Robertiens had Russian routes. They always took the oath putting their right hand on a Russian Bible. And so did all the following kings, emperors and presidents of France including Hollande …

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.
(Gerhard, 9 June 2016 23:48)

With people like you and rote who constantly threaten the people of Kosovo with invasion or the use of a neutron-bomb or whater the f**** that was, I couldnt care less about your fake consternation.

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.

icj1

pre 7 godina

LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!
(Zoran, 9 June 2016 23:39)

So, you are saying that you are a bootlicker, too since coming to B92 is the definition of bootlicker, according to you!

Navi

pre 7 godina

Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.
(Gjon Marku, 9 June 2016 17:58)

Don't worry. When Kosovo finally qualifies for visa liberalization, 95% of Kosovo's Albanians will be gone in a year anyway.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

By the way Ludwig XVI as well as his ancestors had G2a happlogroup same as Joseph Stalin. G2a is a north-Caucasian happlogroup. So most likely Ludwig XVI was an Ossetian too. Which of the French revolts are you talking about and what do you really know about them all? Setting free a couple of prisoners from Bastillia is a revolution? Do you know that even word Bastilia is not French but Persian where it means just PRISON.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone.
(real, 9 June 2016 21:12)
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LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.


Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!

real

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u.. we travel tu serbia with republic kosovi ID... so leave us alone. we dont care about u anymore

rote

pre 7 godina

real : leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u..


It will happen no sooner than you abndon our lands. Then you'll be absolutely independent from us.

Jugoslaija

pre 7 godina

no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?
(observer, 9 June 2016 17:46) # Comment link

"unrational" is not a word Einstein, speak in Albanian if you can.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

This guy is stating the obvious, something we have known for a long time and the rest of the world is just starting to realise. However, what can be said is that the aggression has failed and the coalition of the willing is more and more becoming the unwilling. It has turned into one big mess, supporting terrorists that have spread throughout the world. It is no wonder Albanians are joining up and even training IS, who are killing Americans.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

The reality is that the Albanians ain`t an angel

When you judge this problem , you have to admit that Albanians cannot be trusted , i would had an understanding if in Kosovo were at least Hungaryans

Serbs are as are , maybe they were criminals , but none of this mean that the Albanians were someting better

In a way ARIGOLD is right maybe Kosovo as part of Serbia it would been more developed

Even here in Romania such a big country and we develop but i see in special Kosovo not matter of what it doesn`t develop

Same Albania they have economical grow , good tourism potential same as Croatia and all for nothing

The best solusion is Kosovo to be a part of Serbia

it would be good for all

1) Serbia gdp per capita will be lower having kosovo

2) kosovo and albanians will have better medical care and accces to education and budget

Kosovo part of Serbia , Romanians win , Albanians win ,

I never understood why a Kosovo independent and why not a Kosovo for eat Belgrade money WHY ?

observer

pre 7 godina

Kurt Gritsch is a communist and admirer of Putin-Russia, and the book you are refering to was written a few years ago. He blesses anything Putin has done, and hates the West, just like internet rolls like sj, Air Gold, etc do here on B92. Nobody takes that man seriously in the west, and he certainly can't and shouldn't be used as somebody who reflects what people and governments in the free world think. Sure, blind serbia clings to any straw that it can find to justify it's racist behavior towards especially Kosovo. Don't you ever realize that you can only rule over Kosovo again if you ethnicly cleanse that country of all the people who currently live there. Nobody, yes, NOBODY will accept Serb rule over Kosovo ever again, no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2016 14:13)

Lets assume, just for the sake of argument, you are right and Kosovo cant exist as a sovereign country. Let aside that you are talking complete nonsens. Why would we talk with Serbia when Albania would wait with open arms for us? Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

The first seal of seven is broken, the begining of the end?

March 24, 1999 USA using NATO big guns began murder of all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the world by attacking Jugoslavia a sovereign country. 78 days of bombing Serbia the USA provided 80% of the air power that brought all Eastern Orthodox Christianty in the Balkans to their knees! So how did the world see this action, only as a expansionist military policy! So what can we expect now from countries like large and powerfull Russia, China and India, world war will come for sure, a end of an era, a new begining for all humanity on earth! Boze Pomiluj!!!

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Nothing better than a conspiracy theorist coming up with outlandish claims to look at something that is really easy to explain. New World order, old world order, terms thrown about by people who think they're really clever. The bombing of Serbia brought about an end to the war, not once single person can argue that, that the heavenly people are aggrieved at the outcome is really their problem. Perhaps if they weren't intent on killing and pillaging, there'd have been no need for any of that in the first place

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The UN Nations Charter, NATO's own charter and the international law was severed with the naked aggression in Kosovo. The United Nations as it stands is nothing more than a tea party which takes its orders from NATO and the US. The League of Nations after WWI was also dismantled in the same way with the rise of Fascism and Nazism.

William UK

pre 7 godina

I am glad some historians are finally coming out with the truth. I expect this will occur more as time passes. I have no doubt that this period of aggression by NATO will be looked upon as a dark era.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Greater Serbia Camp-PAIN was Naked Aggression!

Just ask the UNSC that funded the International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.

The Hague is overflowing with convicted serb war criminals...

So many in fact .....serb regime threated to unilateraly declaration a serb war criminals community of municipality !

Belgrade retains the title of War Crimes Capital of the World where you will find the highest concentration....

Udba financing Isis would not surprise anyone since this would be in their demented self interest.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

LOL! The recently published front page article in the NY Times, "How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS", tells the current situation. Kosovo is now linked with radical Islam and terrorism. You aren't fooling anyone.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

While Serbs always waste their time about Kosovo we got free public transport in Bucharest http://www.stiripesurse.ro/bogdan-diaconu-acuza-transportul-ratb-gratuit-este-o-masura-luata-din-programul-pru_1137878.html

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

An unjust naked aggression against a sovereign country which resulted in a temporary amputation of its territory. What's worse is this territory is now Europe's hub for heroin, sex trafficking and other forms of criminal activity. Such an injustice is not going to last forever because it's built on a lie. Albanians never lived better than when they were a functional part of Serbia. Now, over 100,000 Albanians left last year due to unbearable conditions. And that's after the same NATO aggressors flooded Kosovo-Metohija with billions of dollars in economic aid. All for nothing. Because such foundations cannot hold when they are built on a lie.

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.

sj

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

And now Shqiptares are with ISIS against their western bros LOL.

Azir

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

An unjust naked aggression against a sovereign country which resulted in a temporary amputation of its territory. What's worse is this territory is now Europe's hub for heroin, sex trafficking and other forms of criminal activity. Such an injustice is not going to last forever because it's built on a lie. Albanians never lived better than when they were a functional part of Serbia. Now, over 100,000 Albanians left last year due to unbearable conditions. And that's after the same NATO aggressors flooded Kosovo-Metohija with billions of dollars in economic aid. All for nothing. Because such foundations cannot hold when they are built on a lie.

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

LOL! The recently published front page article in the NY Times, "How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS", tells the current situation. Kosovo is now linked with radical Islam and terrorism. You aren't fooling anyone.

sj

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

And now Shqiptares are with ISIS against their western bros LOL.

William UK

pre 7 godina

I am glad some historians are finally coming out with the truth. I expect this will occur more as time passes. I have no doubt that this period of aggression by NATO will be looked upon as a dark era.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The UN Nations Charter, NATO's own charter and the international law was severed with the naked aggression in Kosovo. The United Nations as it stands is nothing more than a tea party which takes its orders from NATO and the US. The League of Nations after WWI was also dismantled in the same way with the rise of Fascism and Nazism.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

This guy is stating the obvious, something we have known for a long time and the rest of the world is just starting to realise. However, what can be said is that the aggression has failed and the coalition of the willing is more and more becoming the unwilling. It has turned into one big mess, supporting terrorists that have spread throughout the world. It is no wonder Albanians are joining up and even training IS, who are killing Americans.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone.
(real, 9 June 2016 21:12)
--
LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!

Azir

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

The first seal of seven is broken, the begining of the end?

March 24, 1999 USA using NATO big guns began murder of all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the world by attacking Jugoslavia a sovereign country. 78 days of bombing Serbia the USA provided 80% of the air power that brought all Eastern Orthodox Christianty in the Balkans to their knees! So how did the world see this action, only as a expansionist military policy! So what can we expect now from countries like large and powerfull Russia, China and India, world war will come for sure, a end of an era, a new begining for all humanity on earth! Boze Pomiluj!!!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2016 14:13)

Lets assume, just for the sake of argument, you are right and Kosovo cant exist as a sovereign country. Let aside that you are talking complete nonsens. Why would we talk with Serbia when Albania would wait with open arms for us? Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.

observer

pre 7 godina

Kurt Gritsch is a communist and admirer of Putin-Russia, and the book you are refering to was written a few years ago. He blesses anything Putin has done, and hates the West, just like internet rolls like sj, Air Gold, etc do here on B92. Nobody takes that man seriously in the west, and he certainly can't and shouldn't be used as somebody who reflects what people and governments in the free world think. Sure, blind serbia clings to any straw that it can find to justify it's racist behavior towards especially Kosovo. Don't you ever realize that you can only rule over Kosovo again if you ethnicly cleanse that country of all the people who currently live there. Nobody, yes, NOBODY will accept Serb rule over Kosovo ever again, no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Greater Serbia Camp-PAIN was Naked Aggression!

Just ask the UNSC that funded the International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.

The Hague is overflowing with convicted serb war criminals...

So many in fact .....serb regime threated to unilateraly declaration a serb war criminals community of municipality !

Belgrade retains the title of War Crimes Capital of the World where you will find the highest concentration....

Udba financing Isis would not surprise anyone since this would be in their demented self interest.

Jugoslaija

pre 7 godina

no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?
(observer, 9 June 2016 17:46) # Comment link

"unrational" is not a word Einstein, speak in Albanian if you can.

Joni

pre 7 godina

I have to admit that i'm worried about what Serbs in this site tell. Uuuu, i'm really worried!!!
No please ---- US hate us, the West hate us, Montenegro hate us, Slovenia hate us, Croatia hate us... (hmm even those Greeks are in the agenda ), Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary hate us to death, for not talking to the rest..
Do you need more slaps from those countries which hate Albanians?
Oh wait, you are really good believers – will turn the other cheek for the next slaps.
And wait for the next slap from Putin – if the west will recognize Crimea – Russia will recognize Kosovo. Does it will take time ? Yes! But we are patient!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.
(Gerhard, 9 June 2016 23:48)

With people like you and rote who constantly threaten the people of Kosovo with invasion or the use of a neutron-bomb or whater the f**** that was, I couldnt care less about your fake consternation.

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

Oh, yes we heard... and ?? Kosovo was cleaned up once by the West and US - but no problem there is a saying : The dog who bark did not bites!

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.


Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Nothing better than a conspiracy theorist coming up with outlandish claims to look at something that is really easy to explain. New World order, old world order, terms thrown about by people who think they're really clever. The bombing of Serbia brought about an end to the war, not once single person can argue that, that the heavenly people are aggrieved at the outcome is really their problem. Perhaps if they weren't intent on killing and pillaging, there'd have been no need for any of that in the first place

rote

pre 7 godina

real : leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u..


It will happen no sooner than you abndon our lands. Then you'll be absolutely independent from us.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

I have said many times that Albanians were always on the wrong side of history, with the empires(Ottoman, Austria-Hungary, Third Reich and USA)and as every empire the had their "world order". This book just proves my point. Only those who do not see are those who dont want to see and accomplices of empire(Albanians). Their role in history was always ugly.
They will one day be ashamed.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
Gjon Marku
@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.
cry me a river

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par excellence.

Kosovo recently made the front page of the NY Times with the article, “How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS”. In the real world you all are just following in your ancestors footsteps. Just keeping up the perverted traditions.

real

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u.. we travel tu serbia with republic kosovi ID... so leave us alone. we dont care about u anymore

icj1

pre 7 godina

LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!
(Zoran, 9 June 2016 23:39)

So, you are saying that you are a bootlicker, too since coming to B92 is the definition of bootlicker, according to you!

Navi

pre 7 godina

Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.
(Gjon Marku, 9 June 2016 17:58)

Don't worry. When Kosovo finally qualifies for visa liberalization, 95% of Kosovo's Albanians will be gone in a year anyway.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
(Gjon Marku

@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

While Serbs always waste their time about Kosovo we got free public transport in Bucharest http://www.stiripesurse.ro/bogdan-diaconu-acuza-transportul-ratb-gratuit-este-o-masura-luata-din-programul-pru_1137878.html

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

By the way Ludwig XVI as well as his ancestors had G2a happlogroup same as Joseph Stalin. G2a is a north-Caucasian happlogroup. So most likely Ludwig XVI was an Ossetian too. Which of the French revolts are you talking about and what do you really know about them all? Setting free a couple of prisoners from Bastillia is a revolution? Do you know that even word Bastilia is not French but Persian where it means just PRISON.

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni : the next slap from Putin

Forget about it coz Putin is crazy about any form of treason. With the bear behind Serbs has nothing to worry about. Their biggest problem is inside their country. As soon as they are a monolith NATO and it local vassals will have to retreat. Chetniks were the pride of the Serbs and of all the anti-fascist states. They were the first to rebel against Hitler on the continent and saved many Russian lives.The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo. NATO would stop to exist and the province would be calm and prospering now. I can see rather a big difference between Shqiptaria and KIM. The last is the plot of mafia while the first is a more or less normal state. There are two obligatory factors for any mafia’s existence. One is a diaspora they can control and the second is a base land where they feel themselves safe. KIM provides both so in a great degree Shqiptars are mafia men even if they are not involved directly. Tell me how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? I do not accuse you but I feel compassion coz it's your tragedy more than your sin. After 500 years in Europe Serbs saved their stubborn Russian spirit. Some moment they also stop to value their lives and welfare. And from this point you have a bad neighbor. Should the Serbian elites stop their games with the west things could develop better for them and for their neighbors.

Joni

pre 7 godina

O lala rote! You catch me my dear! You know my father is the godfather, and I… I’m dangerous honey I’m “El Capo”… hahaha .. Mahhh , but I wonder – your teeth are going to fall all down and you still have this backward mentality? Well be better informed my dear Russian that the Russian mafia is the biggest one in Europe, US, so how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? EEE rrote!
Regarding to us, after the fall of Communism in 90, started the war in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, so we had our problems my dear rote, and as you must see here or everywhere we are still always attacked..
It is not easy for our government and people which live in Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, Albania . Our government and our people still lose to much "energy" and money being divided in 6 countries. Is not easy even for a big and rich country imagine for Albania, protecting the rights of its people all the time.
You talk here and blame us that we steal your lands – but I wonder – who give to you those lands – your father, your mother or the holy spirit?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par
(Gerhard, 10 June 2016 17:39)

True, just like massmurder and rape are well documented from Serbia during the 90ies. One article in NYT was followed by two others from the same journalist about how kosovo is fighting ISIS and extremists. All while you still give state receptions to convicted warcriminal generals and name schools after genocide convicted political leaders.

Yugoslavian_Loyal

pre 7 godina

Eastern Europe needs to unite. When will you all realize (especially Albanians) they do not care about you. There is not liberalization. Just Imperialism. Their interest is only their own. They do not even think like humans for humans. They are masters of deception. They play people against one another. They fear China because China is impenetrable from the inside. What good has NATO ever done. Lets put emotion aside and look at the before and after of everything they have been involved with. They strip you of all rights to live and leave you with a nationalist pride and hate. (you are then brainwashed to think it was all worth it). They liberate Kosovo only to leave it with Uranium that spreads cancer. Corrupt officials and hubs of drugs moving through it. It is not Albanian land, it is not Serbian land. It is forever American land. Your perception of independence is what they promise you but you are now a pawn for them, to be tossed whenever your not needed. Why do you think they keep Bosnia together? It is the biggest insurance policy on earth. Very easily they succeed northern kosovo to serbia. Presevo to kosovo, republika srpska to serbia, sansdak to bosnia and other parts of bosnia to croatia. They dont just incase they need us to fight again. Behind close doors they do not respect any of us. We are so below pawns to them. When will you all see it...

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku


P.S. Do you know that the Bourbons as well as their ancestor Capétiens, Robertiens had Russian routes. They always took the oath putting their right hand on a Russian Bible. And so did all the following kings, emperors and presidents of France including Hollande …

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

The reality is that the Albanians ain`t an angel

When you judge this problem , you have to admit that Albanians cannot be trusted , i would had an understanding if in Kosovo were at least Hungaryans

Serbs are as are , maybe they were criminals , but none of this mean that the Albanians were someting better

In a way ARIGOLD is right maybe Kosovo as part of Serbia it would been more developed

Even here in Romania such a big country and we develop but i see in special Kosovo not matter of what it doesn`t develop

Same Albania they have economical grow , good tourism potential same as Croatia and all for nothing

The best solusion is Kosovo to be a part of Serbia

it would be good for all

1) Serbia gdp per capita will be lower having kosovo

2) kosovo and albanians will have better medical care and accces to education and budget

Kosovo part of Serbia , Romanians win , Albanians win ,

I never understood why a Kosovo independent and why not a Kosovo for eat Belgrade money WHY ?

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"NATO was simply protecting the interests of who they saw as oppressed.
Vojvodina"

Ge! What a joke! Have you ever asked yourself how twisted and insane your logic is? It's not just low IQ.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

"The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo."

How can Serbia survive a war in Kosovo without Russian support? The only other country that offered some support was Greece even though tied up in NATO. Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars. You call the current government in Serbia traitors, Russia's political leaders have made grave errors in its so called "Balkan Policy"

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote all you words are worthless propaganda.

Everyone knows Shqiptares are Indigenous to Kosova and bias clouds your brain cells.

And no ....the world will not support your dispicable hungar for more infamous ethnic cleansing.

The truth will free you from your ignorance...

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni: who give to you those lands?

A very good question! Since 1318 when the White Horde invaded Europe these lands were always under our control. Even after the fall of the Whites/Albanians the lands were passed to the Atamans/Ottomans who were the south-western wing of the Great/White Horde. During the Ottomans there were no ethnical conflicts on the Balkans (Bel/Bal Kan/Khan) as you know. Nations were not formed yet because there was no need in them. People of the Ottomans were of two parts Muslims and non-Muslims. Even in 19 century Christians made some 40% of the current Turkish lands while in the Balkans they dominated. Orthodox people of the empire were called Romans (Millet-i Rum) including the Greeks, Bulgars, Montenegrins, Macedonians and part of the Shqiptares. Your other people belonged to the Miliet-i Latin while half of the Shqiptars belonged to the Milliet-i Muslim. That’s why you still have problems with self-identification and call yourselves birds. Yet I admit that you lived somewhere in the region. But Kosovo was the center of Serbia where they placed their most important churches and monasteries. They lived here for centuries until they suffered severe losses in the last two WWs aggravated by their women. I personally think that KIM and some other neighboring lands have to be divided to restore peace in the region. But it will mean cleaning some of the lands from the shqiptars. How to do it without big blood that is the question!

rote

pre 7 godina

Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars.

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?
(rote, 15 June 2016 21:43)

Hardly, during the 1st Balkan wars Russia along with Austria Hungary forced the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks to pull back or Istanbul would have fallen to the advancing Greece. That is fact, not fantasy-unlike the revisionist Slavic history you try to push off on this site. My family tree goes back 12 centuries to the Black Sea Coast of Turkey so your rendition of Ottoman history is utterly false. Have you heard of Zonguldak, Turkey? Predominantly Christian Greek and Armenian merchant traders and miners, the Muslim population was less than 5%. That is just on example of the Greek and Armenian populations that dominated the coastal regions of Turkey. Look it up and compare it to the Montenegrin Coast-than come talk to me about your BS history.

Minors and the State in the Ottoman Empire
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1845451341/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=36XKG3GFDQM8T&coliid=I152KIAGUN238N

Azir

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉

Azir

pre 7 godina

Greater Serbia Camp-PAIN was Naked Aggression!

Just ask the UNSC that funded the International War Crimes Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.

The Hague is overflowing with convicted serb war criminals...

So many in fact .....serb regime threated to unilateraly declaration a serb war criminals community of municipality !

Belgrade retains the title of War Crimes Capital of the World where you will find the highest concentration....

Udba financing Isis would not surprise anyone since this would be in their demented self interest.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Nothing better than a conspiracy theorist coming up with outlandish claims to look at something that is really easy to explain. New World order, old world order, terms thrown about by people who think they're really clever. The bombing of Serbia brought about an end to the war, not once single person can argue that, that the heavenly people are aggrieved at the outcome is really their problem. Perhaps if they weren't intent on killing and pillaging, there'd have been no need for any of that in the first place

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.
(Ari Gold, 9 June 2016 14:13)

Lets assume, just for the sake of argument, you are right and Kosovo cant exist as a sovereign country. Let aside that you are talking complete nonsens. Why would we talk with Serbia when Albania would wait with open arms for us? Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

An unjust naked aggression against a sovereign country which resulted in a temporary amputation of its territory. What's worse is this territory is now Europe's hub for heroin, sex trafficking and other forms of criminal activity. Such an injustice is not going to last forever because it's built on a lie. Albanians never lived better than when they were a functional part of Serbia. Now, over 100,000 Albanians left last year due to unbearable conditions. And that's after the same NATO aggressors flooded Kosovo-Metohija with billions of dollars in economic aid. All for nothing. Because such foundations cannot hold when they are built on a lie.

One day Albanians will realize that reintegration is their only way towards a normal life. The West will prop you up and lobby so that you can get recognition (even that has fizzled) but not even they have the power to build you into a real country. When Albanians are ready to face the inevitable, their country Serbia will be there to talk.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

The reality is that the Albanians ain`t an angel

When you judge this problem , you have to admit that Albanians cannot be trusted , i would had an understanding if in Kosovo were at least Hungaryans

Serbs are as are , maybe they were criminals , but none of this mean that the Albanians were someting better

In a way ARIGOLD is right maybe Kosovo as part of Serbia it would been more developed

Even here in Romania such a big country and we develop but i see in special Kosovo not matter of what it doesn`t develop

Same Albania they have economical grow , good tourism potential same as Croatia and all for nothing

The best solusion is Kosovo to be a part of Serbia

it would be good for all

1) Serbia gdp per capita will be lower having kosovo

2) kosovo and albanians will have better medical care and accces to education and budget

Kosovo part of Serbia , Romanians win , Albanians win ,

I never understood why a Kosovo independent and why not a Kosovo for eat Belgrade money WHY ?

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni : the next slap from Putin

Forget about it coz Putin is crazy about any form of treason. With the bear behind Serbs has nothing to worry about. Their biggest problem is inside their country. As soon as they are a monolith NATO and it local vassals will have to retreat. Chetniks were the pride of the Serbs and of all the anti-fascist states. They were the first to rebel against Hitler on the continent and saved many Russian lives.The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo. NATO would stop to exist and the province would be calm and prospering now. I can see rather a big difference between Shqiptaria and KIM. The last is the plot of mafia while the first is a more or less normal state. There are two obligatory factors for any mafia’s existence. One is a diaspora they can control and the second is a base land where they feel themselves safe. KIM provides both so in a great degree Shqiptars are mafia men even if they are not involved directly. Tell me how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? I do not accuse you but I feel compassion coz it's your tragedy more than your sin. After 500 years in Europe Serbs saved their stubborn Russian spirit. Some moment they also stop to value their lives and welfare. And from this point you have a bad neighbor. Should the Serbian elites stop their games with the west things could develop better for them and for their neighbors.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

LOL! The recently published front page article in the NY Times, "How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS", tells the current situation. Kosovo is now linked with radical Islam and terrorism. You aren't fooling anyone.

observer

pre 7 godina

Kurt Gritsch is a communist and admirer of Putin-Russia, and the book you are refering to was written a few years ago. He blesses anything Putin has done, and hates the West, just like internet rolls like sj, Air Gold, etc do here on B92. Nobody takes that man seriously in the west, and he certainly can't and shouldn't be used as somebody who reflects what people and governments in the free world think. Sure, blind serbia clings to any straw that it can find to justify it's racist behavior towards especially Kosovo. Don't you ever realize that you can only rule over Kosovo again if you ethnicly cleanse that country of all the people who currently live there. Nobody, yes, NOBODY will accept Serb rule over Kosovo ever again, no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

While Serbs always waste their time about Kosovo we got free public transport in Bucharest http://www.stiripesurse.ro/bogdan-diaconu-acuza-transportul-ratb-gratuit-este-o-masura-luata-din-programul-pru_1137878.html

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.


Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!

sj

pre 7 godina

NATO ended Greater Serbia Terrorism!

The International Community finally came to the defense of Slovenian,Croatian,Bosnian and Kosovar Genocide Victims...

NATO is welcomed on all Indigenous Shqiptare homelands and invited to remain with us for ever Moslem and all!

UCK and NATO united in defeating serb terrorists😎🎉
(Azir, 9 June 2016 14:06)

And now Shqiptares are with ISIS against their western bros LOL.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

The first seal of seven is broken, the begining of the end?

March 24, 1999 USA using NATO big guns began murder of all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the world by attacking Jugoslavia a sovereign country. 78 days of bombing Serbia the USA provided 80% of the air power that brought all Eastern Orthodox Christianty in the Balkans to their knees! So how did the world see this action, only as a expansionist military policy! So what can we expect now from countries like large and powerfull Russia, China and India, world war will come for sure, a end of an era, a new begining for all humanity on earth! Boze Pomiluj!!!

real

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u.. we travel tu serbia with republic kosovi ID... so leave us alone. we dont care about u anymore

rote

pre 7 godina

real : leave us alone. we are indenpendent. have nothing to do anymore with u..


It will happen no sooner than you abndon our lands. Then you'll be absolutely independent from us.

William UK

pre 7 godina

I am glad some historians are finally coming out with the truth. I expect this will occur more as time passes. I have no doubt that this period of aggression by NATO will be looked upon as a dark era.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

I have said many times that Albanians were always on the wrong side of history, with the empires(Ottoman, Austria-Hungary, Third Reich and USA)and as every empire the had their "world order". This book just proves my point. Only those who do not see are those who dont want to see and accomplices of empire(Albanians). Their role in history was always ugly.
They will one day be ashamed.

Joni

pre 7 godina

I have to admit that i'm worried about what Serbs in this site tell. Uuuu, i'm really worried!!!
No please ---- US hate us, the West hate us, Montenegro hate us, Slovenia hate us, Croatia hate us... (hmm even those Greeks are in the agenda ), Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary hate us to death, for not talking to the rest..
Do you need more slaps from those countries which hate Albanians?
Oh wait, you are really good believers – will turn the other cheek for the next slaps.
And wait for the next slap from Putin – if the west will recognize Crimea – Russia will recognize Kosovo. Does it will take time ? Yes! But we are patient!

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku : Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale. Et violà. Liberté.

By the way Ludwig XVI as well as his ancestors had G2a happlogroup same as Joseph Stalin. G2a is a north-Caucasian happlogroup. So most likely Ludwig XVI was an Ossetian too. Which of the French revolts are you talking about and what do you really know about them all? Setting free a couple of prisoners from Bastillia is a revolution? Do you know that even word Bastilia is not French but Persian where it means just PRISON.

rote

pre 7 godina

Gjon Marku


P.S. Do you know that the Bourbons as well as their ancestor Capétiens, Robertiens had Russian routes. They always took the oath putting their right hand on a Russian Bible. And so did all the following kings, emperors and presidents of France including Hollande …

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
(Gjon Marku

@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.
Gjon Marku
@Gjon Marku - ISIS learned from the Chetnicks of the 90s. They're cut from the same cloth.
cry me a river

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par excellence.

Kosovo recently made the front page of the NY Times with the article, “How Kosovo was Turned into Fertile Ground for ISIS”. In the real world you all are just following in your ancestors footsteps. Just keeping up the perverted traditions.

Jugoslaija

pre 7 godina

no matter what dizzy and unrational serb day dreamers like Ari Gold say. Do you really think you would get away with that again?
(observer, 9 June 2016 17:46) # Comment link

"unrational" is not a word Einstein, speak in Albanian if you can.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

why Serbiian media make so much Propaganda.. leave us alone.
(real, 9 June 2016 21:12)
--
LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.
(Gerhard, 9 June 2016 23:48)

With people like you and rote who constantly threaten the people of Kosovo with invasion or the use of a neutron-bomb or whater the f**** that was, I couldnt care less about your fake consternation.

In my world you are worse than ISIS because they are far away while you live next door to us. What Serbs have done in the 90ies is probably just a blueprint for ISIS today.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The UN Nations Charter, NATO's own charter and the international law was severed with the naked aggression in Kosovo. The United Nations as it stands is nothing more than a tea party which takes its orders from NATO and the US. The League of Nations after WWI was also dismantled in the same way with the rise of Fascism and Nazism.

Zoran

pre 7 godina

This guy is stating the obvious, something we have known for a long time and the rest of the world is just starting to realise. However, what can be said is that the aggression has failed and the coalition of the willing is more and more becoming the unwilling. It has turned into one big mess, supporting terrorists that have spread throughout the world. It is no wonder Albanians are joining up and even training IS, who are killing Americans.

icj1

pre 7 godina

LOL! So says the Albanian who comes to B92 along with the rest of the Albanians, who seem to outnumber Serbs. You are "free" and don't want anything to do with Serbs yet you all constantly flood this site. Plain and simple bootlickers. LOL!
(Zoran, 9 June 2016 23:39)

So, you are saying that you are a bootlicker, too since coming to B92 is the definition of bootlicker, according to you!

Joni

pre 7 godina

Have you heard of the Israeli neutron bomb dropped by the Saudites few months ago in Yemen? The difference from the nuclear is that only human beings and animals die. Hope we can find a better way to clean our lands from mafia controlled people. Please help us!
(rote, 9 June 2016 22:13)

Oh, yes we heard... and ?? Kosovo was cleaned up once by the West and US - but no problem there is a saying : The dog who bark did not bites!

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

You dont need my help to clean your lands from mafia controlled people. Just take a Guillotine and place it on the red square. Go full french revolution on kremlin and give Putin the Ludwig XVI speciale.
Gjon Marku

With islamic terrorist beheading people around the world, your comment is beyond the pale. Stupid, really.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Kosovo Albanians will never ever live under Serbia again unless you find a way to kill 95% of Albanians in Kosovo. Not that you didnt already try.
(Gjon Marku, 9 June 2016 17:58)

Don't worry. When Kosovo finally qualifies for visa liberalization, 95% of Kosovo's Albanians will be gone in a year anyway.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Beheadings are well documented in Islamic history. The Ottoman Empire was the decapitation state par
(Gerhard, 10 June 2016 17:39)

True, just like massmurder and rape are well documented from Serbia during the 90ies. One article in NYT was followed by two others from the same journalist about how kosovo is fighting ISIS and extremists. All while you still give state receptions to convicted warcriminal generals and name schools after genocide convicted political leaders.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"NATO was simply protecting the interests of who they saw as oppressed.
Vojvodina"

Ge! What a joke! Have you ever asked yourself how twisted and insane your logic is? It's not just low IQ.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote all you words are worthless propaganda.

Everyone knows Shqiptares are Indigenous to Kosova and bias clouds your brain cells.

And no ....the world will not support your dispicable hungar for more infamous ethnic cleansing.

The truth will free you from your ignorance...

Joni

pre 7 godina

O lala rote! You catch me my dear! You know my father is the godfather, and I… I’m dangerous honey I’m “El Capo”… hahaha .. Mahhh , but I wonder – your teeth are going to fall all down and you still have this backward mentality? Well be better informed my dear Russian that the Russian mafia is the biggest one in Europe, US, so how many of your family men or neighbors or friends are in contact or part of mafia? EEE rrote!
Regarding to us, after the fall of Communism in 90, started the war in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, so we had our problems my dear rote, and as you must see here or everywhere we are still always attacked..
It is not easy for our government and people which live in Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, Albania . Our government and our people still lose to much "energy" and money being divided in 6 countries. Is not easy even for a big and rich country imagine for Albania, protecting the rights of its people all the time.
You talk here and blame us that we steal your lands – but I wonder – who give to you those lands – your father, your mother or the holy spirit?

rote

pre 7 godina

Joni: who give to you those lands?

A very good question! Since 1318 when the White Horde invaded Europe these lands were always under our control. Even after the fall of the Whites/Albanians the lands were passed to the Atamans/Ottomans who were the south-western wing of the Great/White Horde. During the Ottomans there were no ethnical conflicts on the Balkans (Bel/Bal Kan/Khan) as you know. Nations were not formed yet because there was no need in them. People of the Ottomans were of two parts Muslims and non-Muslims. Even in 19 century Christians made some 40% of the current Turkish lands while in the Balkans they dominated. Orthodox people of the empire were called Romans (Millet-i Rum) including the Greeks, Bulgars, Montenegrins, Macedonians and part of the Shqiptares. Your other people belonged to the Miliet-i Latin while half of the Shqiptars belonged to the Milliet-i Muslim. That’s why you still have problems with self-identification and call yourselves birds. Yet I admit that you lived somewhere in the region. But Kosovo was the center of Serbia where they placed their most important churches and monasteries. They lived here for centuries until they suffered severe losses in the last two WWs aggravated by their women. I personally think that KIM and some other neighboring lands have to be divided to restore peace in the region. But it will mean cleaning some of the lands from the shqiptars. How to do it without big blood that is the question!

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

"The biggest sin of Serbs was that they yielded the Russian pressure and did not launch a real war in Kosovo."

How can Serbia survive a war in Kosovo without Russian support? The only other country that offered some support was Greece even though tied up in NATO. Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars. You call the current government in Serbia traitors, Russia's political leaders have made grave errors in its so called "Balkan Policy"

Yugoslavian_Loyal

pre 7 godina

Eastern Europe needs to unite. When will you all realize (especially Albanians) they do not care about you. There is not liberalization. Just Imperialism. Their interest is only their own. They do not even think like humans for humans. They are masters of deception. They play people against one another. They fear China because China is impenetrable from the inside. What good has NATO ever done. Lets put emotion aside and look at the before and after of everything they have been involved with. They strip you of all rights to live and leave you with a nationalist pride and hate. (you are then brainwashed to think it was all worth it). They liberate Kosovo only to leave it with Uranium that spreads cancer. Corrupt officials and hubs of drugs moving through it. It is not Albanian land, it is not Serbian land. It is forever American land. Your perception of independence is what they promise you but you are now a pawn for them, to be tossed whenever your not needed. Why do you think they keep Bosnia together? It is the biggest insurance policy on earth. Very easily they succeed northern kosovo to serbia. Presevo to kosovo, republika srpska to serbia, sansdak to bosnia and other parts of bosnia to croatia. They dont just incase they need us to fight again. Behind close doors they do not respect any of us. We are so below pawns to them. When will you all see it...

rote

pre 7 godina

Its not the first time Russia abandoned the Balkans, Serbians were forced to retreat from Durres, Greece from the gates of Constantinople during the Balkan wars.

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I KNOW ONLY ABOUT 1999 everything else is disputable. Do you know that Russia has spoiled forever it relations with Bulgaria just because of our support for Serbia?
(rote, 15 June 2016 21:43)

Hardly, during the 1st Balkan wars Russia along with Austria Hungary forced the Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks to pull back or Istanbul would have fallen to the advancing Greece. That is fact, not fantasy-unlike the revisionist Slavic history you try to push off on this site. My family tree goes back 12 centuries to the Black Sea Coast of Turkey so your rendition of Ottoman history is utterly false. Have you heard of Zonguldak, Turkey? Predominantly Christian Greek and Armenian merchant traders and miners, the Muslim population was less than 5%. That is just on example of the Greek and Armenian populations that dominated the coastal regions of Turkey. Look it up and compare it to the Montenegrin Coast-than come talk to me about your BS history.

Minors and the State in the Ottoman Empire
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1845451341/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=36XKG3GFDQM8T&coliid=I152KIAGUN238N