Islamic cleric to Serbs: Recognize Srebrenica as genocide

You put Oric in jail for the genocide of Serbs in the villages in and around Kravica prior to Srebrenica and maybe we'll talk. Until then, no deal effendi.

"We have areas where the Bosnian language is negated, we have areas where Bosniaks (Muslims) are not allowed employment, in every way their life is made difficult. I believe it could happen in Srebrenica. That's what I'm talking about, a creeping ethnic cleansing in the Serb Republic (RS)," Kavazovic said.

Sounds to me like he's describing what Serbs face in Croatia.

No reconciliation! Srebrenica was a tragic event just like many others in the Jugoslav wars. Muslims, albanians and croats want serbs to appologize but they don't want to admit their crimes against serbs. Im still waiting for a croat appology and condemnation for Jasenovac and the etnic clensing of Croatias Serbian population.
Besides; Serbs have what they want, Republika Srpska. So, we don't need to "reconciliate."

When Naser Oric and his Srebrenica Moslem army (the ISIS of the Bosnia) were marauding through Serbian towns and villages, they slaughtered every Serbian man, woman and child they got their hands on. When the Bosnian Serb Army retook Srebrenica, all Moslem women, children, the elderly and the sick were given safe transport to Sarajevo and Tuzla. Young Moslem men found in the town were arrested and later swapped for Serbian civilians held prisoner by the Moslems. The so called “massacre” happened when the Srebrenica Moslem army (the ISIS of Bosnia) broke through Serb military lines. In the battles that followed over the next few days, 500 Serbian soldiers were killed and perhaps 3000 Moslem soldiers were killed. So we are told by this Moslem cleric that the slaughter of Srebrenica’s Serbian civilians is to be forgotten but the killing of Srebrenica’s Moslem soldiers with guns and bombs in their hands is “Genocide.” Whatever next? Will we now be told that the Russians are guilty of Genocide for killing ISIS, Al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda cutthroats in Syria?

Serbs are allergic to the truth as a vampire is to light....

De-Nazification must be a pre-condition to EU membership along with war restitution and Kosova apology and recognition.
(Azir, 7 June 2016 13:43)

Sad to disappoint you but there will be no such preconditions. You guys have been hiding behind the door when the brains were being handed out. The EU does not care about Albanians otherwise they would have alleviated the 70% unemployment in Kosovo and cleaned up the depleted uranium. But keep on dreaming if it makes you nice and warm.
They see Albos from Kosova as terrorist not allies.

Dear Towelhead

To understand the true meaning of genocide you need further education and I don't mean some worthless piece of paper from and Islamic university where you rock back and forth chanting meaningless phrases.

What you require for Srebrenica to be declared a genocidal act, even in the loosest interpretation of the word genocide Srebrenica does not fall in that category, is the UNSC passing a resolution in that regard. Since you do not have it, go and join your brother in ISIS.

The chance for reconciliation has gone. The ICTY had the chance to bring the warring factions together but it turned into the political farce. With Europe becoming more and more anti-Islamic, it will be interested to see what the future holds.

Also, why are there so many Albanian nutcases on this site? They are full of hate.

serbs to islamic guy;
recognize that you literally ran the nazi croat state and that your SS Handzar unit was instrumental in killing over 1M serbs in ww2...

The lieutenant-colonel eventually came back and said there were an additional 500 prisoners at the Pilica cultural centre who also had to be executed,
(Dwight, 7 June 2016 15:31

Where you there with the soldiers Dwight?,how do you know what was said?
At lest woman,children and elderly where not harmed,but Oric killed all the Men,women,and children.!!
Enough crying for harden soldiers,and start crying the women and children that Oric slaughtered and butchered,first in 1992!!.
P's payback is a "bitch".

Why would anyone care what a man who has devoted his life to a mythical being think?

First off the Bosnian Muslims are Serbs that converted to Islam under Ottoman occupation so as to have an easier life; Serbs killing Serbs cannot be genocide. Second a military victory is not genocide since the women & children were allowed safe passage. Third there cannot be reconciliation until the true genocide in the Balkans which occurred during WWI, WWII and the Krajina cleansing against the Orthodox Serbian population is recognized and compensated.

albanain muslims and bosnian muslims have (with help from their muslim turkish and middle eastern brothers) committed the most killings and ethnic cleansing in the western balkans over the past 1k years! that is a fact...look at a map of Europe in 814; http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/europe_charlemagne_814.htm
not a mention of albanians in the balkans (only in where the city of Baku is today) and no mention of bosnian muslims at all...all of the serb lands were cleansed by the turks, albanians and bosnian muslims...over 1 million serbs were killed by muslims just in ww2...kosovo went from being 100% serb before the turks arrived to where it is today, and so was bosnia...this is the true long term genocide in the region...

Croatia will block you block heads and you will beg for forgiveness.


Krajina might have something to do with this 😉
(Azir, 7 June 2016 16:06)

The EU just told Croatia to stop being a nuisance and the Croatian government is on the verge of collapse. Croatia can barely afford to help its own citizens in a depopulating Krajina. Do you even know what you're writing?

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans Germans killed people, Serbs killed people The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

(adrian_bucharest,


HOW DARE YOU OPEN YOUR ANTONESKU MOUTH AFTER ALL THOSE ATROCITIES YOU MADE ON YOUR WAY TO STALINGRAD CEMETRY! YOU NEVER HAD BALLS TO FIGHT OUR ARMY SO YOU COMPENSATED IT WITH THE MASSACRES OF THE CIVILLIANS. BECAUSE YOU WERE POOR WARRIORS THE SOVIETS ATTACKED 6-TH ARMY OF WERMAHT ON THE FRONTS KEPT BY THE 4-TH ROMANIAN AND 2-ND ITALIAN ARMIES. THEY FLEW SO FAST THAT WE COULD NOT CATCH THEM BOTH. TELL ME WHAT YOUR COUNTY GRANTED THE WORLD WITH TO CALL SERBS BARBARIANS AND WHY DO YOU BRING YOUR COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY HERE?

P.S. Do you feel disgust for yourself like all of us do? See what memory Captured Romanians left in Byelorussia. Captured Romanians is the name of the group … After you meet Serbs in an open field they will also call their groups Captured Romanians aka Roma ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8MtCMu2NI

P.S.-2 What was your Mom’s name you said?

Also, why are there so many Albanian nutcases on this site? They are full of hate.
(William UK, 7 June 2016 18:20)

They're basically paid to troll websites. There's probably just a few posting under different names to make it look like there's a lot.

Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on
(adrian_bucharest, 7 June 20

Yes. Adrian the BLOOD FUEDING,Albanians that settle scores by killing innocent family members (including Children) of murderers Albanian's.What lovely people.
P's BLOOD FUEDS champ's.

Well it take ~ 100 years to the Europe to make the massacres of Armenians a Genocide and still US doesn't recognize it.
Is the same even for Bosnian Genocide – Russia must not recognize it forever but still it remain a Genocide for all the European countries and it will be remembered as such in all the European nations.
You know what is in Europe stand in Europe and will be always remembered year by year until the justice is made. You will listen every year and year- ....year, about Bosnian Genocide and you can't hide it – Turks were not able to hide it in more than 100 years.
(Joni, 7 June 2016 15:48)

We Serb's don't care about some criminal soldiers getting killed!.
We Serb's care about the men,women,elderly and Children slaughtered and butchered by Oric army in 1992.
P's payback is a "Bitch"!!.
Let the civilians of 1992 R.I.P.

They should've asked long time ago.serbia it's going to recognize this genocide sooner or later. After that recognize the genocide in Kosovo . Serbia it's responsible for these crimes ,and they will pay for it

Kavazovic would do better to joint the Islamic State in Syria or Iraq rather than dreaming of reproducing it in Bosnia, is was Alija Izetbegovic's wish.

Dwight

The story you quote was invented by a Bosnian Croat mercenary, Drazen Erdemovic. Erode movie was a member of a group called the 10th Sabotage Unit of the Bosnian Serb Army. The members of this Unit were all Croats, Slovenes and Bosnian Moslems. They fought for the Serbs for gold. Interestingly they were also former members of the French Foreign Legion. There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered. But who were they working for? Erdemovic was arrested inBelgrade and sent to The Hague by President Milosevic.

President Milosevic said he had evidence that the 10th Sabotage Unit was a NATO Dirty Ops team which was sent into Bosnia to murder Moslems to make Serbs look bad. Erdemovic admitted to murdering 1,000 Moslems and is now a multi-millionaire living under a new name in a NATO country. Erdemovic did his job well and now all Serbian leaders from the 1990s are either rotting in Western dungeons or have been killed.

Serbs are allergic to the truth as a vampire is to light....

De-Nazification must be a pre-condition to EU membership along with war restitution and Kosova apology and recognition.

Well it take ~ 100 years to the Europe to make the massacres of Armenians a Genocide and still US doesn't recognize it.
Is the same even for Bosnian Genocide – Russia must not recognize it forever but still it remain a Genocide for all the European countries and it will be remembered as such in all the European nations.
You know what is in Europe stand in Europe and will be always remembered year by year until the justice is made. You will listen every year and year- ....year, about Bosnian Genocide and you can't hide it – Turks were not able to hide it in more than 100 years.

@sj the know nothing:

Croatia will block you block heads and you will beg for forgiveness.


Krajina might have something to do with this 😉

full stop. is this a religious figure discussing politics, and making political calls? I've read on numerous occasions that Serbian religious figures should shut their mouths during political discussions, where is that fury now?
Oh, yeah, its okay so long as its not a Serbian religious figure.
to the no-backbone crowd: where are you on this one?

(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 13:49)

Here is a description of one of the battles the Bosnian Serbs took part in, described by one of the soldiers themselves.

“The first group of ten civilians who were taken off the bus were blindfolded and had their hands tied behind their backs, they were escorted to a site about 100 to 200 metres away from the bus, and lined up in a row with their backs to the execution squad.”

Gojkovic then gave the order to shoot, and the witness and seven other members of the unit opened fire with automatic rifles. This pattern continued from late morning until three or four in the afternoon.

One of the soldiers in the unit suggested that they should use machine guns to kill the men because it would be faster.

However, a quarrel soon broke out over the use of the machine gun because it was causing severe injuries to civilians without actually killing them.

During the executions, another group of soldiers arrived from Bratunac to join in and they kicked, punched and cursed the prisoners, and also beat them with rifle butts and metal bars they found on the farm.

The lieutenant-colonel eventually came back and said there were an additional 500 prisoners at the Pilica cultural centre who also had to be executed,

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans

Germans killed people , Serbs killed people

The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money

Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

Dear Cleric:

Please first recognize your complicity in the genocide of 700k Serbs in WW2.

When you do that we can talk about these 8k (many of whom were soldiers retreating through the forest and who were ambushed )and killed in a fire fight).

(EU Citizen, 8 June 2016 05:14)

Let’s sum this up. Croatia went on about blocking the talks unless some mythical demands are met by Serbia then the Croat Foreign Affairs Minister publicly backed down by mumbling something about resolving any issues with Serbia direct meanwhile the EU has issued a statement that Serbia has met all the criteria to commence the talks and any issues between Croatia and Serbia are just that and it does not affect the talks.
Me thinks it your Croatians than are walking funny with the poker up their ass not the Serbs.

(Azir, 7 June 2016 16:06)
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Hey Abdullah pay attention the EU has already made Croatia look like a fool by forcing it to eat their own words about blocking talks with Serbia LOL. You have to keep up to date with these things. Change the times you milk the goats and keep up with the news.
Even your ally the US now sees your Albos as potential terrorist. Its not me who makes this claim they write about it in America.

But of course sj, that is why the West bombed Serbia. So think all you want that NATO is Serbia's ally.
(The Count of Kosova, 8 June 2016 00:43)

Not at all mate. NATO has never been or ever will be a Serb ally, but the west is yours and they are now declaring your Albos terrorist.
Hey there are over 300 Albos fighting for ISIS, but not one Serb LOL. It comes from US media not from Serbia.

"So we are told by this Moslem cleric that the slaughter of Srebrenica’s Serbian civilians is to be forgotten "
(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 13:49)


I can't see where he says this, did the CIA or NATO delete the sentence from the article to make you look bad?
I do see a bit where he says "We have an obligation to fight also against our own criminals"

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans Germans killed people, Serbs killed people The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

(adrian_bucharest,

All throughout history Romania has relied on Russia to "free" themselves first from the Ottoman empire and then the Nazi's in WWII. Romania could not even free themselves from the Ottomans even with the help of Russian Prince Alexander Ypsilanti in the 18th century.

Now Romania is allowing NATO air bases and infringing on Russian airspace. The time is coming where former leaders Antonescu and Cauesecu faced the execution dock, so will the current German fascist leader will meet the same fate. Remember all those "brave" Nazi Romanian and Croatian solders who marched in Stalingrad and met the Russian Red Army, real heroes who liberated Europe.

NATO press....NATO/CIA?BBC........3000 Serbs were murdered........In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town etc etc.
(Michael Thomas, 8 June 2016 16:18)


If only Milosevic had you as an advisor, He would have printed some Dinars and bought his way out of trouble.
Maybe he could have paid the Kosovo Albanians to stay in Serbia or bought a million nukes.

But Wait, he tried that and destroyed the economy and peoples life-savings, then tried to blame someone else and started a war to hold onto power.
Milosevic, Mugabe and now maybe Maduro

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.
(Azir, 9 June 2016 13:28)

Your previous comments supporting A Islamic Balkan's doesn't make sense while you sit in a Western Country.I don't care a opion of a Islamic state supporter and Terrorist!

To Dwight,
Below is just one incident that trigged or start of war,Bosnian Moslems killed primary and high school kids straight out of school.I information on Wikipedia.

List of massacres in the Bosnian War
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
The following is a list of massacres that occurred during the Bosnian War.

List of massacres in the Bosnian War
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
The following is a list of massacres that occurred during the Bosnian War.

Name Date Location Deaths Description
Sijekovac killings March 1992 Sijekovac, near Bosanski Brod 20[1]-47[2]-59[3] Bosniak and Croat military units clashed with Bosnian-Serb soldiers and civilians. Republika Srpska reported 47 killed, but 59 bodies were later found, including 18 children, all ethnic Serbs.[3] Helsinki Watch reported that 20 were killed in March 1992, while other bodies were killed later in the war.
Bradina Village massacre as well children got killed,near Srebinica city in 25 - 27 May 1992.
That's just 2 massacres start of the war,
So why would I have pity for soldiers deserting (running away) threw Forrest ,in Srebinica in 1995 ,when children where slaughtered 3 years earlier.
You can freely dispute that.
Let's start with the GENOCIDE committed on Serb's in 1992,then we will get to 1995 Srebinica soldiers incident.
P's My good friend's family where slaughtered in Bradina village,including young children by the creature ORIC in 1992.

Dwight

We are “told” by act of omission. The good cleric cares nothing for the 3000 Serbian civilians butchered by Naser Oric and his Balkan ISIS. He clearly cares nothing because he can’t be bothered to mention them. Instead he wants the world to weep for the cutthroats that killed them.

The whole Srebrenica story is kept fuzzy by the NATO press who want the world to believe that once there existed a pretty Bosnian town called Srebrenica in which Moslems lived in peace. Then one dreadful day the evil Serbs turned up, separated the men and boys from the rest and murdered them in cold blood. That’s the NATO/CIA?BBC version of events and it in no way resembles the truth.

Srebrenica was a mixed town of Serbs and Moslems. The Moslems, aided by NATO and Arab Despots, were armed and trained and took over the town. During the fist 12 months of the war the Srebrenica Moslems organised a reign of terror over local Serbs. 3000 Serbs were murdered, many in acts of hideous brutality similar to those committed by ISIS.

In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town, not because of a defeat at the hands of the Serbs, but because they were ordered to by NATO. Moslem women, children and the elderly were left in the town. They all survived. The Moslem men took their weapons and broke through Serb military lines. Perhaps 3000 were killed in this breakout. That, in a few lines, is what happened. That is what NATO calls a “massacre.”

(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 June 2016 18:56)

Could you provide me with a good source telling how many people Oric killed and the age/sex. I would be particularly interested to know how many children he killed?
Thank you


PS I said a good source

Please first recognize your complicity in the genocide of 7k Serbs in WW2.

When you do that we can talk about these 8k (many of whom were soldiers retreating through the forest and who were ambushed )and killed in a fire fight).
(factman, 8 June 2016 05:54) Interesting fatman this is what they were doing in the country of Bosnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks#Terror_tactics_and_cleansing_actions and this is what happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lijev%C4%8De_Field to the criminals.

Husein Kavazovic has said that there would be "no reconciliation in Bosnia-Herzegovina until genocide in Srebrenica is recognized."

No reconciliation until the Genocide against the Serbs in Bosnia/Herzegovina and Croatia is recognized.

This is a true statement written by a dude below. Thousands were killed in the forest where they were ambushed by Serb forces.

It's also worth noting that Nasar Oric abandoned his people and his men and that he used Srebrenica as a safe haven to go out and kill civilians.

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In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town, not because of a defeat at the hands of the Serbs, but because they were ordered to by NATO. Moslem women, children and the elderly were left in the town. They all survived. The Moslem men took their weapons and broke through Serb military lines. Perhaps 3000 were killed in this breakout. That, in a few lines, is what happened. That is what NATO calls a “massacre.”

They see Albos from Kosova as terrorist not allies.
(sj, 7 June 2016 14:01)


But of course sj, that is why the West bombed Serbia. So think all you want that NATO is Serbia's ally.

albanain muslims and bosnian muslims have (with help from their muslim turkish and middle eastern brothers) committed the most killings and ethnic cleansing in the western balkans over the past 1k years! that is a fact...look at a map of Europe in 814; [link]
(bishop, 7 June 2016 19:12)

Yeah, but did you actually read those links?! They say nowhere who killed whom or if any killing occurred at all, in the first place lol
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not a mention of albanians in the balkans (only in where the city of Baku is today) and no mention of bosnian muslims at all...all of the serb lands were cleansed by the turks, albanians and bosnian muslims...over 1 million serbs were killed by muslims just in ww2...kosovo went from being 100% serb before the turks arrived to where it is today, and so was bosnia...this is the true long term genocide in the region...
(bishop, 7 June 2016 19:12)

Sure, but no map of the Roman times has any mention of Serbs, too. So, according to your logic, that must mean that all of the Roman lands in today's Serbia were cleansed by the Serbs and Serbs committed long term genocide in the region since Kosovo went from 100% Roman to 100% Serb!

Did any part of your brain contribute in what you wrote mate?!

(sasa.p)
The page that you provide as a source refutes your own arguments. This is a list of killings of civilians and non-combatants.It says that in the various massacres in Bosnia there were 200 Serbs killed by non-Serbs and over 20000 killed by Serbs. That is a 100:1 ratio.
There are constant claims of 1000's of Serbs murdered in Bosnia but these numbers have never been backed-up with any evidence.

You say Oric killed all the Men,women,and children in 1992 but Serbs dont kill women or children. Your wikipedia page that says women and children were murdered in Srebrenica and also talks about the time the Serbs bombed a kids football match killing over 50 children!!!!

You say those killed in Srebr were hardened soldiers and it was justfied revenge for earlier murders committed by these same people. - The claim that these 8000 people were hardended soldiers is simply not true. There are 1000's of books written and 100s of experts will refute this. Michael Thomas is not one of those experts.
I will not waste time going over something that has been proved before.

You say that genocide was committed on Serbs in 1992 - you provide a page that says 130 Serbs were massacred in 3 events in Bosnia in 1992
NO matter how terrible a crime, this is not genocide.

I asked for some data on the amount of children killed by Oric, I do like to learn about these things, please provide some suggested reading about his involvment in Bradina killings.

(sasa.p)

You seem to be smart but your wish to find excuses for everything done by Serbs is clouding your judgement. What happened in Bradina was horrific and it is a disgrace that no-one has been brought to justice for this. This does not mean that a later murder of 1000s of unrelated people was ok.

icj - So this is where you ran off to. After deceitfully cutting & pasting pieces of my statements out of context to fit your anti-Serb agenda and being called out on it, you run off to this thread. And you also ran off without answering the questions I asked of you. Clearly you've been undressed and humiliated after being exposed after your unethical attempt at changing the meaning of my posts, but have you no shame at all? You've come back even though your credibility on this board has been destroyed? You are a piece of work...we a piece for sure.

sasa.p)

You seem to be smart but your wish to find excuses for everything done by Serbs is clouding your judgement. What happened in Bradina was horrific and it is a disgrace that no-one has been brought to justice for this. This does not mean that a later murder of 1000s of unrelated people was ok.
(Dwight, 8 June 2016 18:49)

To Dwight,
If you read what I wrote,that killing civilians or GENOCIDE against Serb Women,children and elderly in Bradina in 1992 must be recognised first and many Genocide killing I that against Serb's,before we recognise killing against Bosnjak and Croat's.specially in order of time or which killings comes first. You cannot skip GENOCIDE killings against Serb's and ignore that crime,and just talk about soldiers killed 3 year's later.
Feel free to dispute or agree with my opion's.

I asked for some data on the amount of children killed by Oric, I do like to learn about these things, please provide some suggested reading about his involvment in Bradina killings.
(Dwight, 8 June 2016 18:48)

To Dwight,
I cannot provide readings,as my friend living Australia (name cannot be disclosed) ,explained with tears that the Bradina civilians where killed at the start of the war 1992,just because their where defenceless Serb's cilivans.He lost his uncle,auntie, cousin,sister-inlaw,nephew and nieces,by the blade.It was a horrible,horrofic and unjustified.
We need to acknowledge first the crimes that where committed in 1992 ,all the way to 1995.
ANY life lost to these war criminals ,they must be brought to justice for the victim's.
P's all victim's in the Balkans war R.I.P.

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.
(Azir, 9 June 2016 13:28)

Who makes no sense Genius? If you are on that topic, you better take a trip to Hamburg and Dresden where in WWII US bombers firebombed those cities with 10 times the force of the Atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined. Hamburg and Dresden had absolutely no military installations; war crimes that far surpass the German bombings of European cities.

There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered.
(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 19:12)

So, they had surrendered. So the propaganda by the most patriotic of Serbs that they were killed in combat is a lie.

Guys (or gals) at least agree with each other which propaganda version you ate going to promote. There is no credible evidence supporting any of those versions, but you should, at least, be consistent, instead of coming up with a different conspiracy theory every other day...

Attention Micheal Thomas:

If one was to follow your " logic" then Serbs can also claim the Nazis were set up by Jewish Dirty Ops by murdering Jews and conviently blaming it on the Nazis who like the Serbs can never do so much as hurt a fly.....

But Serbia's Human Rights Director Kandic speaks the truth and her evidence along with the rest of the world's put you in the idiotic comment category 😝

The EU just told Croatia to stop being a nuisance and the Croatian government is on the verge of collapse. Croatia can barely afford to help its own citizens in a depopulating Krajina.
(Navi, 7 June 2016 20:04)

That is the way it looks on the surface, but notice Serbia is still being blocked for failing to fulfill all conditions required to open said chapters. You see the EU is taking the attention off Croatia, yet Serbia still is left with a poker stuck up its ass.

(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 19:12)
You are correct, this man is an ethic Croat who fought under Mladic, not a Serb.

" The members of this Unit were all Croats, Slovenes and Bosnian Moslems"
Not true, this was originally a mercenary unit and changed to become a regular unit with many Serbs. It was purely a sabotage unit when it was non-Serbs. The war crimes commited by this unit were all after the Serbs jonied.
Im not saying that it was the Serbs that caused this, I am just saying.
Non-Serb Members of this unit were also convicted of war crimes


"There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered."
There is a lot of evidence, serveral members of this unit have been convicted. There is no evidence that the people killed were soldiers


"President Milosevic said he had evidence that the 10th Sabotage Unit was a NATO Dirty Ops team which was sent into Bosnia to murder Moslems to make Serbs look bad"
What a pile of horseshit. was their commander Mladic also a CIA plant to make the Serbs look bad?


"Erdemovic admitted to murdering 1,000 Moslems and is now a multi-millionaire living under a new name in a NATO country."
What is his new name, which country and how do you know he is a multi-millionaire?

Using your logic and your list, an apologist for Bosnian crimes can say, Bradina was justified because people from there were responsible for Foca and Bileljina and on and on the circle of blame goes. Would your friend have been ok with everything if the killers in Bradina had let the women+children go and just machine gunned the over 15s? I'd say not.
If your friend found out today that a few of his neighbours were involved in earlier murder of civilians would he change his mind and say the killings of his family were justified, I'd say not.

After hearing the horrific stories of your friends, why are you glad of the same misery on some Bosnian families that you know nothing about.
It does not sound like you are saying all criminals should be brought to justice, instead you are saying all criminals should be brought to justice but revenge killings by Serbs are ok

I would think that most normal people killed in Bradina had more in common with those killed in Srebrenica than they ever would have with those disgraceful people on all sides who wore uniforms and call them selves soldiers while robbing, murdering and raping their way through the war.

I wont reply here again because this thread will disappear soon but thank you for having a sensible argument/conversation which is rare on here and yes RIP all victims of the wars.

@ Jugislavija the self declared Genius:

Once again my point was an aggressor can not cry " Genocide" after a loss over his losses...

Nazis never complained about suffering " Genocide" and why should the Serbs?

Russians lost 10 million during WW2 and they don't complain like their cousins the serbs......
That had much lower losses....

Serbs are allergic to the truth as a vampire is to light....

De-Nazification must be a pre-condition to EU membership along with war restitution and Kosova apology and recognition.

They should've asked long time ago.serbia it's going to recognize this genocide sooner or later. After that recognize the genocide in Kosovo . Serbia it's responsible for these crimes ,and they will pay for it

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans

Germans killed people , Serbs killed people

The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money

Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

Well it take ~ 100 years to the Europe to make the massacres of Armenians a Genocide and still US doesn't recognize it.
Is the same even for Bosnian Genocide – Russia must not recognize it forever but still it remain a Genocide for all the European countries and it will be remembered as such in all the European nations.
You know what is in Europe stand in Europe and will be always remembered year by year until the justice is made. You will listen every year and year- ....year, about Bosnian Genocide and you can't hide it – Turks were not able to hide it in more than 100 years.

(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 13:49)

Here is a description of one of the battles the Bosnian Serbs took part in, described by one of the soldiers themselves.

“The first group of ten civilians who were taken off the bus were blindfolded and had their hands tied behind their backs, they were escorted to a site about 100 to 200 metres away from the bus, and lined up in a row with their backs to the execution squad.”

Gojkovic then gave the order to shoot, and the witness and seven other members of the unit opened fire with automatic rifles. This pattern continued from late morning until three or four in the afternoon.

One of the soldiers in the unit suggested that they should use machine guns to kill the men because it would be faster.

However, a quarrel soon broke out over the use of the machine gun because it was causing severe injuries to civilians without actually killing them.

During the executions, another group of soldiers arrived from Bratunac to join in and they kicked, punched and cursed the prisoners, and also beat them with rifle butts and metal bars they found on the farm.

The lieutenant-colonel eventually came back and said there were an additional 500 prisoners at the Pilica cultural centre who also had to be executed,

When Naser Oric and his Srebrenica Moslem army (the ISIS of the Bosnia) were marauding through Serbian towns and villages, they slaughtered every Serbian man, woman and child they got their hands on. When the Bosnian Serb Army retook Srebrenica, all Moslem women, children, the elderly and the sick were given safe transport to Sarajevo and Tuzla. Young Moslem men found in the town were arrested and later swapped for Serbian civilians held prisoner by the Moslems. The so called “massacre” happened when the Srebrenica Moslem army (the ISIS of Bosnia) broke through Serb military lines. In the battles that followed over the next few days, 500 Serbian soldiers were killed and perhaps 3000 Moslem soldiers were killed. So we are told by this Moslem cleric that the slaughter of Srebrenica’s Serbian civilians is to be forgotten but the killing of Srebrenica’s Moslem soldiers with guns and bombs in their hands is “Genocide.” Whatever next? Will we now be told that the Russians are guilty of Genocide for killing ISIS, Al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda cutthroats in Syria?

@sj the know nothing:

Croatia will block you block heads and you will beg for forgiveness.


Krajina might have something to do with this 😉

Dear Towelhead

To understand the true meaning of genocide you need further education and I don't mean some worthless piece of paper from and Islamic university where you rock back and forth chanting meaningless phrases.

What you require for Srebrenica to be declared a genocidal act, even in the loosest interpretation of the word genocide Srebrenica does not fall in that category, is the UNSC passing a resolution in that regard. Since you do not have it, go and join your brother in ISIS.

Serbs are allergic to the truth as a vampire is to light....

De-Nazification must be a pre-condition to EU membership along with war restitution and Kosova apology and recognition.
(Azir, 7 June 2016 13:43)

Sad to disappoint you but there will be no such preconditions. You guys have been hiding behind the door when the brains were being handed out. The EU does not care about Albanians otherwise they would have alleviated the 70% unemployment in Kosovo and cleaned up the depleted uranium. But keep on dreaming if it makes you nice and warm.
They see Albos from Kosova as terrorist not allies.

First off the Bosnian Muslims are Serbs that converted to Islam under Ottoman occupation so as to have an easier life; Serbs killing Serbs cannot be genocide. Second a military victory is not genocide since the women & children were allowed safe passage. Third there cannot be reconciliation until the true genocide in the Balkans which occurred during WWI, WWII and the Krajina cleansing against the Orthodox Serbian population is recognized and compensated.

The lieutenant-colonel eventually came back and said there were an additional 500 prisoners at the Pilica cultural centre who also had to be executed,
(Dwight, 7 June 2016 15:31

Where you there with the soldiers Dwight?,how do you know what was said?
At lest woman,children and elderly where not harmed,but Oric killed all the Men,women,and children.!!
Enough crying for harden soldiers,and start crying the women and children that Oric slaughtered and butchered,first in 1992!!.
P's payback is a "bitch".

No reconciliation! Srebrenica was a tragic event just like many others in the Jugoslav wars. Muslims, albanians and croats want serbs to appologize but they don't want to admit their crimes against serbs. Im still waiting for a croat appology and condemnation for Jasenovac and the etnic clensing of Croatias Serbian population.
Besides; Serbs have what they want, Republika Srpska. So, we don't need to "reconciliate."

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans Germans killed people, Serbs killed people The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

(adrian_bucharest,


HOW DARE YOU OPEN YOUR ANTONESKU MOUTH AFTER ALL THOSE ATROCITIES YOU MADE ON YOUR WAY TO STALINGRAD CEMETRY! YOU NEVER HAD BALLS TO FIGHT OUR ARMY SO YOU COMPENSATED IT WITH THE MASSACRES OF THE CIVILLIANS. BECAUSE YOU WERE POOR WARRIORS THE SOVIETS ATTACKED 6-TH ARMY OF WERMAHT ON THE FRONTS KEPT BY THE 4-TH ROMANIAN AND 2-ND ITALIAN ARMIES. THEY FLEW SO FAST THAT WE COULD NOT CATCH THEM BOTH. TELL ME WHAT YOUR COUNTY GRANTED THE WORLD WITH TO CALL SERBS BARBARIANS AND WHY DO YOU BRING YOUR COMPLEX OF INFERIORITY HERE?

P.S. Do you feel disgust for yourself like all of us do? See what memory Captured Romanians left in Byelorussia. Captured Romanians is the name of the group … After you meet Serbs in an open field they will also call their groups Captured Romanians aka Roma ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8MtCMu2NI

P.S.-2 What was your Mom’s name you said?

You put Oric in jail for the genocide of Serbs in the villages in and around Kravica prior to Srebrenica and maybe we'll talk. Until then, no deal effendi.

"We have areas where the Bosnian language is negated, we have areas where Bosniaks (Muslims) are not allowed employment, in every way their life is made difficult. I believe it could happen in Srebrenica. That's what I'm talking about, a creeping ethnic cleansing in the Serb Republic (RS)," Kavazovic said.

Sounds to me like he's describing what Serbs face in Croatia.

Why would anyone care what a man who has devoted his life to a mythical being think?

Kavazovic would do better to joint the Islamic State in Syria or Iraq rather than dreaming of reproducing it in Bosnia, is was Alija Izetbegovic's wish.

The chance for reconciliation has gone. The ICTY had the chance to bring the warring factions together but it turned into the political farce. With Europe becoming more and more anti-Islamic, it will be interested to see what the future holds.

Also, why are there so many Albanian nutcases on this site? They are full of hate.

Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on
(adrian_bucharest, 7 June 20

Yes. Adrian the BLOOD FUEDING,Albanians that settle scores by killing innocent family members (including Children) of murderers Albanian's.What lovely people.
P's BLOOD FUEDS champ's.

albanain muslims and bosnian muslims have (with help from their muslim turkish and middle eastern brothers) committed the most killings and ethnic cleansing in the western balkans over the past 1k years! that is a fact...look at a map of Europe in 814; http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/europe_charlemagne_814.htm
not a mention of albanians in the balkans (only in where the city of Baku is today) and no mention of bosnian muslims at all...all of the serb lands were cleansed by the turks, albanians and bosnian muslims...over 1 million serbs were killed by muslims just in ww2...kosovo went from being 100% serb before the turks arrived to where it is today, and so was bosnia...this is the true long term genocide in the region...

serbs to islamic guy;
recognize that you literally ran the nazi croat state and that your SS Handzar unit was instrumental in killing over 1M serbs in ww2...

Please first recognize your complicity in the genocide of 7k Serbs in WW2.

When you do that we can talk about these 8k (many of whom were soldiers retreating through the forest and who were ambushed )and killed in a fire fight).
(factman, 8 June 2016 05:54) Interesting fatman this is what they were doing in the country of Bosnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks#Terror_tactics_and_cleansing_actions and this is what happened https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lijev%C4%8De_Field to the criminals.

Well it take ~ 100 years to the Europe to make the massacres of Armenians a Genocide and still US doesn't recognize it.
Is the same even for Bosnian Genocide – Russia must not recognize it forever but still it remain a Genocide for all the European countries and it will be remembered as such in all the European nations.
You know what is in Europe stand in Europe and will be always remembered year by year until the justice is made. You will listen every year and year- ....year, about Bosnian Genocide and you can't hide it – Turks were not able to hide it in more than 100 years.
(Joni, 7 June 2016 15:48)

We Serb's don't care about some criminal soldiers getting killed!.
We Serb's care about the men,women,elderly and Children slaughtered and butchered by Oric army in 1992.
P's payback is a "Bitch"!!.
Let the civilians of 1992 R.I.P.

But of course sj, that is why the West bombed Serbia. So think all you want that NATO is Serbia's ally.
(The Count of Kosova, 8 June 2016 00:43)

Not at all mate. NATO has never been or ever will be a Serb ally, but the west is yours and they are now declaring your Albos terrorist.
Hey there are over 300 Albos fighting for ISIS, but not one Serb LOL. It comes from US media not from Serbia.

Dwight

We are “told” by act of omission. The good cleric cares nothing for the 3000 Serbian civilians butchered by Naser Oric and his Balkan ISIS. He clearly cares nothing because he can’t be bothered to mention them. Instead he wants the world to weep for the cutthroats that killed them.

The whole Srebrenica story is kept fuzzy by the NATO press who want the world to believe that once there existed a pretty Bosnian town called Srebrenica in which Moslems lived in peace. Then one dreadful day the evil Serbs turned up, separated the men and boys from the rest and murdered them in cold blood. That’s the NATO/CIA?BBC version of events and it in no way resembles the truth.

Srebrenica was a mixed town of Serbs and Moslems. The Moslems, aided by NATO and Arab Despots, were armed and trained and took over the town. During the fist 12 months of the war the Srebrenica Moslems organised a reign of terror over local Serbs. 3000 Serbs were murdered, many in acts of hideous brutality similar to those committed by ISIS.

In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town, not because of a defeat at the hands of the Serbs, but because they were ordered to by NATO. Moslem women, children and the elderly were left in the town. They all survived. The Moslem men took their weapons and broke through Serb military lines. Perhaps 3000 were killed in this breakout. That, in a few lines, is what happened. That is what NATO calls a “massacre.”

Also, why are there so many Albanian nutcases on this site? They are full of hate.
(William UK, 7 June 2016 18:20)

They're basically paid to troll websites. There's probably just a few posting under different names to make it look like there's a lot.

Dwight

The story you quote was invented by a Bosnian Croat mercenary, Drazen Erdemovic. Erode movie was a member of a group called the 10th Sabotage Unit of the Bosnian Serb Army. The members of this Unit were all Croats, Slovenes and Bosnian Moslems. They fought for the Serbs for gold. Interestingly they were also former members of the French Foreign Legion. There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered. But who were they working for? Erdemovic was arrested inBelgrade and sent to The Hague by President Milosevic.

President Milosevic said he had evidence that the 10th Sabotage Unit was a NATO Dirty Ops team which was sent into Bosnia to murder Moslems to make Serbs look bad. Erdemovic admitted to murdering 1,000 Moslems and is now a multi-millionaire living under a new name in a NATO country. Erdemovic did his job well and now all Serbian leaders from the 1990s are either rotting in Western dungeons or have been killed.

Croatia will block you block heads and you will beg for forgiveness.


Krajina might have something to do with this 😉
(Azir, 7 June 2016 16:06)

The EU just told Croatia to stop being a nuisance and the Croatian government is on the verge of collapse. Croatia can barely afford to help its own citizens in a depopulating Krajina. Do you even know what you're writing?

Attention Micheal Thomas:

If one was to follow your " logic" then Serbs can also claim the Nazis were set up by Jewish Dirty Ops by murdering Jews and conviently blaming it on the Nazis who like the Serbs can never do so much as hurt a fly.....

But Serbia's Human Rights Director Kandic speaks the truth and her evidence along with the rest of the world's put you in the idiotic comment category 😝

(EU Citizen, 8 June 2016 05:14)

Let’s sum this up. Croatia went on about blocking the talks unless some mythical demands are met by Serbia then the Croat Foreign Affairs Minister publicly backed down by mumbling something about resolving any issues with Serbia direct meanwhile the EU has issued a statement that Serbia has met all the criteria to commence the talks and any issues between Croatia and Serbia are just that and it does not affect the talks.
Me thinks it your Croatians than are walking funny with the poker up their ass not the Serbs.

(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 June 2016 18:56)

Could you provide me with a good source telling how many people Oric killed and the age/sex. I would be particularly interested to know how many children he killed?
Thank you


PS I said a good source

full stop. is this a religious figure discussing politics, and making political calls? I've read on numerous occasions that Serbian religious figures should shut their mouths during political discussions, where is that fury now?
Oh, yeah, its okay so long as its not a Serbian religious figure.
to the no-backbone crowd: where are you on this one?

albanain muslims and bosnian muslims have (with help from their muslim turkish and middle eastern brothers) committed the most killings and ethnic cleansing in the western balkans over the past 1k years! that is a fact...look at a map of Europe in 814; [link]
(bishop, 7 June 2016 19:12)

Yeah, but did you actually read those links?! They say nowhere who killed whom or if any killing occurred at all, in the first place lol
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not a mention of albanians in the balkans (only in where the city of Baku is today) and no mention of bosnian muslims at all...all of the serb lands were cleansed by the turks, albanians and bosnian muslims...over 1 million serbs were killed by muslims just in ww2...kosovo went from being 100% serb before the turks arrived to where it is today, and so was bosnia...this is the true long term genocide in the region...
(bishop, 7 June 2016 19:12)

Sure, but no map of the Roman times has any mention of Serbs, too. So, according to your logic, that must mean that all of the Roman lands in today's Serbia were cleansed by the Serbs and Serbs committed long term genocide in the region since Kosovo went from 100% Roman to 100% Serb!

Did any part of your brain contribute in what you wrote mate?!

(Azir, 7 June 2016 16:06)
#
Hey Abdullah pay attention the EU has already made Croatia look like a fool by forcing it to eat their own words about blocking talks with Serbia LOL. You have to keep up to date with these things. Change the times you milk the goats and keep up with the news.
Even your ally the US now sees your Albos as potential terrorist. Its not me who makes this claim they write about it in America.

Serbs are barbarians as the Germans Germans killed people, Serbs killed people The only difference is that Serbia is helpless as military power and army and money Serbs = > Barbaric hordes who came here in this area to disturb the beautifull educated Albanian tribes , Romanian legions , and so on

(adrian_bucharest,

All throughout history Romania has relied on Russia to "free" themselves first from the Ottoman empire and then the Nazi's in WWII. Romania could not even free themselves from the Ottomans even with the help of Russian Prince Alexander Ypsilanti in the 18th century.

Now Romania is allowing NATO air bases and infringing on Russian airspace. The time is coming where former leaders Antonescu and Cauesecu faced the execution dock, so will the current German fascist leader will meet the same fate. Remember all those "brave" Nazi Romanian and Croatian solders who marched in Stalingrad and met the Russian Red Army, real heroes who liberated Europe.

Husein Kavazovic has said that there would be "no reconciliation in Bosnia-Herzegovina until genocide in Srebrenica is recognized."

No reconciliation until the Genocide against the Serbs in Bosnia/Herzegovina and Croatia is recognized.

There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered.
(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 19:12)

So, they had surrendered. So the propaganda by the most patriotic of Serbs that they were killed in combat is a lie.

Guys (or gals) at least agree with each other which propaganda version you ate going to promote. There is no credible evidence supporting any of those versions, but you should, at least, be consistent, instead of coming up with a different conspiracy theory every other day...

The EU just told Croatia to stop being a nuisance and the Croatian government is on the verge of collapse. Croatia can barely afford to help its own citizens in a depopulating Krajina.
(Navi, 7 June 2016 20:04)

That is the way it looks on the surface, but notice Serbia is still being blocked for failing to fulfill all conditions required to open said chapters. You see the EU is taking the attention off Croatia, yet Serbia still is left with a poker stuck up its ass.

Dear Cleric:

Please first recognize your complicity in the genocide of 700k Serbs in WW2.

When you do that we can talk about these 8k (many of whom were soldiers retreating through the forest and who were ambushed )and killed in a fire fight).

(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 19:12)
You are correct, this man is an ethic Croat who fought under Mladic, not a Serb.

" The members of this Unit were all Croats, Slovenes and Bosnian Moslems"
Not true, this was originally a mercenary unit and changed to become a regular unit with many Serbs. It was purely a sabotage unit when it was non-Serbs. The war crimes commited by this unit were all after the Serbs jonied.
Im not saying that it was the Serbs that caused this, I am just saying.
Non-Serb Members of this unit were also convicted of war crimes


"There is some evidence that this Unit murdered Moslem soldiers who surrendered."
There is a lot of evidence, serveral members of this unit have been convicted. There is no evidence that the people killed were soldiers


"President Milosevic said he had evidence that the 10th Sabotage Unit was a NATO Dirty Ops team which was sent into Bosnia to murder Moslems to make Serbs look bad"
What a pile of horseshit. was their commander Mladic also a CIA plant to make the Serbs look bad?


"Erdemovic admitted to murdering 1,000 Moslems and is now a multi-millionaire living under a new name in a NATO country."
What is his new name, which country and how do you know he is a multi-millionaire?

"So we are told by this Moslem cleric that the slaughter of Srebrenica’s Serbian civilians is to be forgotten "
(Michael Thomas, 7 June 2016 13:49)


I can't see where he says this, did the CIA or NATO delete the sentence from the article to make you look bad?
I do see a bit where he says "We have an obligation to fight also against our own criminals"

To Dwight,
Below is just one incident that trigged or start of war,Bosnian Moslems killed primary and high school kids straight out of school.I information on Wikipedia.

List of massacres in the Bosnian War
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
The following is a list of massacres that occurred during the Bosnian War.

List of massacres in the Bosnian War
This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
The following is a list of massacres that occurred during the Bosnian War.

Name Date Location Deaths Description
Sijekovac killings March 1992 Sijekovac, near Bosanski Brod 20[1]-47[2]-59[3] Bosniak and Croat military units clashed with Bosnian-Serb soldiers and civilians. Republika Srpska reported 47 killed, but 59 bodies were later found, including 18 children, all ethnic Serbs.[3] Helsinki Watch reported that 20 were killed in March 1992, while other bodies were killed later in the war.
Bradina Village massacre as well children got killed,near Srebinica city in 25 - 27 May 1992.
That's just 2 massacres start of the war,
So why would I have pity for soldiers deserting (running away) threw Forrest ,in Srebinica in 1995 ,when children where slaughtered 3 years earlier.
You can freely dispute that.
Let's start with the GENOCIDE committed on Serb's in 1992,then we will get to 1995 Srebinica soldiers incident.
P's My good friend's family where slaughtered in Bradina village,including young children by the creature ORIC in 1992.

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.

(sasa.p)
The page that you provide as a source refutes your own arguments. This is a list of killings of civilians and non-combatants.It says that in the various massacres in Bosnia there were 200 Serbs killed by non-Serbs and over 20000 killed by Serbs. That is a 100:1 ratio.
There are constant claims of 1000's of Serbs murdered in Bosnia but these numbers have never been backed-up with any evidence.

You say Oric killed all the Men,women,and children in 1992 but Serbs dont kill women or children. Your wikipedia page that says women and children were murdered in Srebrenica and also talks about the time the Serbs bombed a kids football match killing over 50 children!!!!

You say those killed in Srebr were hardened soldiers and it was justfied revenge for earlier murders committed by these same people. - The claim that these 8000 people were hardended soldiers is simply not true. There are 1000's of books written and 100s of experts will refute this. Michael Thomas is not one of those experts.
I will not waste time going over something that has been proved before.

You say that genocide was committed on Serbs in 1992 - you provide a page that says 130 Serbs were massacred in 3 events in Bosnia in 1992
NO matter how terrible a crime, this is not genocide.

I asked for some data on the amount of children killed by Oric, I do like to learn about these things, please provide some suggested reading about his involvment in Bradina killings.

(sasa.p)

You seem to be smart but your wish to find excuses for everything done by Serbs is clouding your judgement. What happened in Bradina was horrific and it is a disgrace that no-one has been brought to justice for this. This does not mean that a later murder of 1000s of unrelated people was ok.

NATO press....NATO/CIA?BBC........3000 Serbs were murdered........In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town etc etc.
(Michael Thomas, 8 June 2016 16:18)


If only Milosevic had you as an advisor, He would have printed some Dinars and bought his way out of trouble.
Maybe he could have paid the Kosovo Albanians to stay in Serbia or bought a million nukes.

But Wait, he tried that and destroyed the economy and peoples life-savings, then tried to blame someone else and started a war to hold onto power.
Milosevic, Mugabe and now maybe Maduro

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.
(Azir, 9 June 2016 13:28)

Your previous comments supporting A Islamic Balkan's doesn't make sense while you sit in a Western Country.I don't care a opion of a Islamic state supporter and Terrorist!

This is a true statement written by a dude below. Thousands were killed in the forest where they were ambushed by Serb forces.

It's also worth noting that Nasar Oric abandoned his people and his men and that he used Srebrenica as a safe haven to go out and kill civilians.

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In the summer of 1995 the Moslem army abandoned the town, not because of a defeat at the hands of the Serbs, but because they were ordered to by NATO. Moslem women, children and the elderly were left in the town. They all survived. The Moslem men took their weapons and broke through Serb military lines. Perhaps 3000 were killed in this breakout. That, in a few lines, is what happened. That is what NATO calls a “massacre.”

They see Albos from Kosova as terrorist not allies.
(sj, 7 June 2016 14:01)


But of course sj, that is why the West bombed Serbia. So think all you want that NATO is Serbia's ally.

I asked for some data on the amount of children killed by Oric, I do like to learn about these things, please provide some suggested reading about his involvment in Bradina killings.
(Dwight, 8 June 2016 18:48)

To Dwight,
I cannot provide readings,as my friend living Australia (name cannot be disclosed) ,explained with tears that the Bradina civilians where killed at the start of the war 1992,just because their where defenceless Serb's cilivans.He lost his uncle,auntie, cousin,sister-inlaw,nephew and nieces,by the blade.It was a horrible,horrofic and unjustified.
We need to acknowledge first the crimes that where committed in 1992 ,all the way to 1995.
ANY life lost to these war criminals ,they must be brought to justice for the victim's.
P's all victim's in the Balkans war R.I.P.

@ Jugislavija the self declared Genius:

Once again my point was an aggressor can not cry " Genocide" after a loss over his losses...

Nazis never complained about suffering " Genocide" and why should the Serbs?

Russians lost 10 million during WW2 and they don't complain like their cousins the serbs......
That had much lower losses....

sasa.p)

You seem to be smart but your wish to find excuses for everything done by Serbs is clouding your judgement. What happened in Bradina was horrific and it is a disgrace that no-one has been brought to justice for this. This does not mean that a later murder of 1000s of unrelated people was ok.
(Dwight, 8 June 2016 18:49)

To Dwight,
If you read what I wrote,that killing civilians or GENOCIDE against Serb Women,children and elderly in Bradina in 1992 must be recognised first and many Genocide killing I that against Serb's,before we recognise killing against Bosnjak and Croat's.specially in order of time or which killings comes first. You cannot skip GENOCIDE killings against Serb's and ignore that crime,and just talk about soldiers killed 3 year's later.
Feel free to dispute or agree with my opion's.

Using your logic and your list, an apologist for Bosnian crimes can say, Bradina was justified because people from there were responsible for Foca and Bileljina and on and on the circle of blame goes. Would your friend have been ok with everything if the killers in Bradina had let the women+children go and just machine gunned the over 15s? I'd say not.
If your friend found out today that a few of his neighbours were involved in earlier murder of civilians would he change his mind and say the killings of his family were justified, I'd say not.

After hearing the horrific stories of your friends, why are you glad of the same misery on some Bosnian families that you know nothing about.
It does not sound like you are saying all criminals should be brought to justice, instead you are saying all criminals should be brought to justice but revenge killings by Serbs are ok

I would think that most normal people killed in Bradina had more in common with those killed in Srebrenica than they ever would have with those disgraceful people on all sides who wore uniforms and call them selves soldiers while robbing, murdering and raping their way through the war.

I wont reply here again because this thread will disappear soon but thank you for having a sensible argument/conversation which is rare on here and yes RIP all victims of the wars.

@ sasa.p the Ignorant:

During WW2 many Germans lost their lives while in the process of aggression!

According to Serb " logic" that also must be considered a Genocide?

Serbs make no sense.
(Azir, 9 June 2016 13:28)

Who makes no sense Genius? If you are on that topic, you better take a trip to Hamburg and Dresden where in WWII US bombers firebombed those cities with 10 times the force of the Atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined. Hamburg and Dresden had absolutely no military installations; war crimes that far surpass the German bombings of European cities.

icj - So this is where you ran off to. After deceitfully cutting & pasting pieces of my statements out of context to fit your anti-Serb agenda and being called out on it, you run off to this thread. And you also ran off without answering the questions I asked of you. Clearly you've been undressed and humiliated after being exposed after your unethical attempt at changing the meaning of my posts, but have you no shame at all? You've come back even though your credibility on this board has been destroyed? You are a piece of work...we a piece for sure.