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Friday, 27.05.2016.

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Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"

Dusan Kozarev has said that Pristina's chief negotiator in the talks with Belgrade Edita Tahiri has "for the umpteenth time tried to confuse the public."

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EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.
(,Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)


Mr. Balkan Anthropologist,
You're trying much too hard. Can't you tell when you're in over your head. It's time to go back to the minor leagues.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)

B.A,
I expected this kind of delusional response from you.l It's your problem that normal Serbs agree with me.

icj1

pre 7 godina

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership.

Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:49)

Are you saying that in this International Relations 101 course that you teach, students learn that the UN is the authority that recognizes states and governments?!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 May 2016 18:04)

Friendly reminder. Chapter 35 "normalization of relations with Kosovo" is a requirement for EU membership. Brusseltalks are implemented to reach that "normalization" and the dial code is part of that normalization. Let me break it down for you.

No dial code, no Brussel Agreements, no Normalisation, No chapter 35, no EU.

Get it? Good.
Kosovo and Serbia are going to join EU either at the same time as two independent states or neither is going to join. Mark my words.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 19:06)

Nobody is saying ZSO wont be established. Kosovo CC ruled that some of the statutes of the ZSO are in violation of the Constetution. Now the statutes need to be reformulated. Maybe Kosovo CC will be asked for a second time, just to be sure. Formation of ZSO requires the change of legislation and parliament session dont take place everyday.

Change of legislation is a serious matter. So many obstacles to consider. It also depends on the cooperation of the Serb List in parliament. Tit for tat.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

There should be no problem with this if it's understood non-states can be members. Of course Serbia dramatizes everything.

#2 So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Nothing. I have absolutely no problem with visa liberalization being rewarded if corruption is dealt with. I have even less of a problem if it comes after agreeing to establish ZSO without any further obstacles or tear gas canisters from Albanian extremists.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Um, check here and update your complaint roster:
http://inserbia.info/today/2015/06/serbia-to-hand-over-all-cadastral-information-from-kosovo-to-pristina/

So lets do first agreements first!
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership. Otherwise, Kosovo wouldn't be lobbying for years trying to get in. Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

Really? You give the Domovina far too much credit. The EC has already expressed frustration with Croatia's illogical stance and all signs point to an unblocking of negotiations by next week. You honestly think little Croatia has the same weight as Germany? Because if you do, you'll be in for some rough times when Serbia gets EU membership and gets to play around with Albania and, if it comes to it, Kosovo.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?"
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 16:53)

Which agreement? Do you maybe refer to point #14 of the 2013 agreements?

"It is agreed that neither side will block, or encourage others to block, the other side's progress in their respective EU path."

I didn't know that protesting against Kosovo joining UEFA (against the clear UEFA statutes which should allow only recognized UN member countries to become members) can be seen as 'blocking' - neither is UEFA membership a milestone on the 'EU path' (the same goes for a dial code, I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)

Or what else do you mean? Where can I find this 'blocking admissions to international organizations' you mentioned?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 28 May 2016 22:36)

B.A,
Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet. btw, I have yet to see you provide data of any sort to backup your claims.
Furthermore, if you bothered to check, you would find Dr. Tahiri is far more qualified than any of the clowns representing the Serbian negotiations team.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!

First, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. That's according to the UN itself.

Second, some UN members were not sovereign states recognized by anybody. So, being a UN member does not make an entity a sovereign and recognized state.
----------

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation"
3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?

#2So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.

So lets do first agreements first!

Los Donalderos

pre 7 godina

Hey CNN worshipers, did y'all know that the father of the stillborn is accused of rape?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-mentions-rape-discussing-bill-clinton-223348

factman

pre 7 godina

Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying.

###

The above comment is fantasy.

Not only have an increasing amount of firms moved to Serbia from Western Europe, but aid has increased and political pressure has ceased.

It is not in Europe's interest any longer to keep Serbia down. Europe needs a healthy Serbia to bolster the Balkans.

New game. New rules underway.

The comment is also illogical.

By the time the so-called ultimatum to recognize is delivered, Serbia economy will be strong and healthy (one the pre-requisites for entry into the EU).

Who is going to "force" Serbia to do anything at that time? Teh tiem to force them is now (but no one is doing that).

Your theory has a lot of holes in it.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

B.A,
Your bluster is increasing day by day, though it's sad your air of superiority is falling on deaf ears. If Serbia is failing to have its side taken seriously then, perhaps, she should examine the manner in which she presents herself to other nations. Not getting the respect you think you deserve is usually an indication of self deception and illusions of grandeur. You must admit Serbia has a great deal of difficulty getting along with whomever she interacts. If she does not recognize and correct her false air of superiority, she will remain face down in the mud.

factman

pre 7 godina

Just keep on showing up.

Eventually everyone will see that the emperor really has no clothes.

In the words of Jerry Garcia Keep on truckin.

You have Trump Administration coming up and not a Clinton Administration.

The climate is changing.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence""

B92, you guys (or gals) are really creative with the news story titles. When I read the title above, I thought it was very interesting and proceeded to read it hoping to find some substance.

But, unfortunately had to stop at the first paragraph after reading that the title was based on what was said by the deputy director of the Serbian Government Office for Kosovo and Metohija :)

A more appropriate title would have been: "Belgrade's negotiator accuses Pristina's negotiator for "fantastic insolence"".

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).
(Reader, 27 May 2016 19:36)

Ok, looks like a few around here need some simplified clarification:

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.

4. No one in Serbia except for a small few gives a damn about Jeremic becoming UNSG. It's widely understood it will go to a woman anyway.

Anything else you'd like to add that doesn't make sense to the topic of the article? I see you avoided mentioning Tahiri's lack of qualifications.

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian fantastic lies. They want to start with last agreement they signed ignoring previous agreements. They want to have the cake and eat it too. Croatia's foreign minister told them the truth. You can't enroll in university without passing the exam.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.
(observer, 27 May 2016 15:53) # Comm

Observer,Why do you keep reading B92,and leaving your comments??.
Specially since B92 spreads propaganda,that you disagree with Serb site/forum !!.

roberto

pre 7 godina

'Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"' Who the hell are these fascistic Serbian officials to accuse Edita Tahiri of insolence, as though they still owned Kosovo and all of its citizens, and Butcher of the Balkans Slobo Milosevic were still in charge?! Truly pathetic, while they continue to lie and cover up the aftermath of genocide:

http://instituteforgenocide.org/?p=11511

Reader

pre 7 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).

goat riders in the sky

pre 7 godina

Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"

That's the reason the Kosovo Albanians are drowning in foreign investments, especially from Afghanistan. LOL

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed."

Or, handing over the cadastral records stolen in Kosova during the war. Or, allowing the school books from Kosova just like Kosova allows the school books from Serbia. Or, recognizing Kosova's insurance cards. As signed.

Oh is that too much to ask for? Ok, let's aim for much lower and get to very bottom, to the basic level of human decency: How about Serbia returns the remains of those thousands of civilians kidnapped in Kosova during the war, killed and buried in Serbia.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Hmm, "fantastic insolence" is a slogan I'd more ascribe to the bombastic leadership of Kosovo than Belgrade, but yes, Tahiri does have a professional ability at making up stipulations as they go, interpreting agreements according to her own interests, and making announcements on agreements that were never reached. She's more there for entertainment value than diplomatic acumen, but she's only a messenger of the regime she represents, and that regime has been doing whatever it takes to delay implementing agreements reached three years ago while simultaneously blaming the other side for the delay. Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

". If the EU had any guts,"
why, who is the EU afraid of? or is this another one of your comments that has been entered without you engaging any of your brain cells? p.s. Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?

observer

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 May 2016 14:52)

You are right. The majority of the EU countries should insist on Serbia recognizing Kosovo (therefore making Brussel talks obsolete). Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying. Unfortunately both our expectations are not met.

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. "
(Guest, 27 May 2016 13:21)

Everybody knows that, without the EU, Serbia wouldn't go to the dialogues.

But it is still worth to mention again and again that Kosovo delays, obstructs and maliciously misinterprets AGREED deals from the Brussels talk. If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.

Guest

pre 7 godina

Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. Seen politicians are well aware of it, they just don't have the guts to admit it.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed."

Or, handing over the cadastral records stolen in Kosova during the war. Or, allowing the school books from Kosova just like Kosova allows the school books from Serbia. Or, recognizing Kosova's insurance cards. As signed.

Oh is that too much to ask for? Ok, let's aim for much lower and get to very bottom, to the basic level of human decency: How about Serbia returns the remains of those thousands of civilians kidnapped in Kosova during the war, killed and buried in Serbia.

observer

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Hmm, "fantastic insolence" is a slogan I'd more ascribe to the bombastic leadership of Kosovo than Belgrade, but yes, Tahiri does have a professional ability at making up stipulations as they go, interpreting agreements according to her own interests, and making announcements on agreements that were never reached. She's more there for entertainment value than diplomatic acumen, but she's only a messenger of the regime she represents, and that regime has been doing whatever it takes to delay implementing agreements reached three years ago while simultaneously blaming the other side for the delay. Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. "
(Guest, 27 May 2016 13:21)

Everybody knows that, without the EU, Serbia wouldn't go to the dialogues.

But it is still worth to mention again and again that Kosovo delays, obstructs and maliciously misinterprets AGREED deals from the Brussels talk. If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

". If the EU had any guts,"
why, who is the EU afraid of? or is this another one of your comments that has been entered without you engaging any of your brain cells? p.s. Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?

Reader

pre 7 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 28 May 2016 22:36)

B.A,
Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet. btw, I have yet to see you provide data of any sort to backup your claims.
Furthermore, if you bothered to check, you would find Dr. Tahiri is far more qualified than any of the clowns representing the Serbian negotiations team.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 May 2016 14:52)

You are right. The majority of the EU countries should insist on Serbia recognizing Kosovo (therefore making Brussel talks obsolete). Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying. Unfortunately both our expectations are not met.

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

B.A,
Your bluster is increasing day by day, though it's sad your air of superiority is falling on deaf ears. If Serbia is failing to have its side taken seriously then, perhaps, she should examine the manner in which she presents herself to other nations. Not getting the respect you think you deserve is usually an indication of self deception and illusions of grandeur. You must admit Serbia has a great deal of difficulty getting along with whomever she interacts. If she does not recognize and correct her false air of superiority, she will remain face down in the mud.

goat riders in the sky

pre 7 godina

Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"

That's the reason the Kosovo Albanians are drowning in foreign investments, especially from Afghanistan. LOL

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence""

B92, you guys (or gals) are really creative with the news story titles. When I read the title above, I thought it was very interesting and proceeded to read it hoping to find some substance.

But, unfortunately had to stop at the first paragraph after reading that the title was based on what was said by the deputy director of the Serbian Government Office for Kosovo and Metohija :)

A more appropriate title would have been: "Belgrade's negotiator accuses Pristina's negotiator for "fantastic insolence"".

roberto

pre 7 godina

'Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"' Who the hell are these fascistic Serbian officials to accuse Edita Tahiri of insolence, as though they still owned Kosovo and all of its citizens, and Butcher of the Balkans Slobo Milosevic were still in charge?! Truly pathetic, while they continue to lie and cover up the aftermath of genocide:

http://instituteforgenocide.org/?p=11511

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian fantastic lies. They want to start with last agreement they signed ignoring previous agreements. They want to have the cake and eat it too. Croatia's foreign minister told them the truth. You can't enroll in university without passing the exam.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)

B.A,
I expected this kind of delusional response from you.l It's your problem that normal Serbs agree with me.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?

#2So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.

So lets do first agreements first!

factman

pre 7 godina

Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying.

###

The above comment is fantasy.

Not only have an increasing amount of firms moved to Serbia from Western Europe, but aid has increased and political pressure has ceased.

It is not in Europe's interest any longer to keep Serbia down. Europe needs a healthy Serbia to bolster the Balkans.

New game. New rules underway.

The comment is also illogical.

By the time the so-called ultimatum to recognize is delivered, Serbia economy will be strong and healthy (one the pre-requisites for entry into the EU).

Who is going to "force" Serbia to do anything at that time? Teh tiem to force them is now (but no one is doing that).

Your theory has a lot of holes in it.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!

First, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. That's according to the UN itself.

Second, some UN members were not sovereign states recognized by anybody. So, being a UN member does not make an entity a sovereign and recognized state.
----------

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation"
3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 May 2016 18:04)

Friendly reminder. Chapter 35 "normalization of relations with Kosovo" is a requirement for EU membership. Brusseltalks are implemented to reach that "normalization" and the dial code is part of that normalization. Let me break it down for you.

No dial code, no Brussel Agreements, no Normalisation, No chapter 35, no EU.

Get it? Good.
Kosovo and Serbia are going to join EU either at the same time as two independent states or neither is going to join. Mark my words.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 19:06)

Nobody is saying ZSO wont be established. Kosovo CC ruled that some of the statutes of the ZSO are in violation of the Constetution. Now the statutes need to be reformulated. Maybe Kosovo CC will be asked for a second time, just to be sure. Formation of ZSO requires the change of legislation and parliament session dont take place everyday.

Change of legislation is a serious matter. So many obstacles to consider. It also depends on the cooperation of the Serb List in parliament. Tit for tat.

Guest

pre 7 godina

Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. Seen politicians are well aware of it, they just don't have the guts to admit it.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.
(observer, 27 May 2016 15:53) # Comm

Observer,Why do you keep reading B92,and leaving your comments??.
Specially since B92 spreads propaganda,that you disagree with Serb site/forum !!.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).
(Reader, 27 May 2016 19:36)

Ok, looks like a few around here need some simplified clarification:

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.

4. No one in Serbia except for a small few gives a damn about Jeremic becoming UNSG. It's widely understood it will go to a woman anyway.

Anything else you'd like to add that doesn't make sense to the topic of the article? I see you avoided mentioning Tahiri's lack of qualifications.

icj1

pre 7 godina

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership.

Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:49)

Are you saying that in this International Relations 101 course that you teach, students learn that the UN is the authority that recognizes states and governments?!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.

EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.
(,Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)


Mr. Balkan Anthropologist,
You're trying much too hard. Can't you tell when you're in over your head. It's time to go back to the minor leagues.

factman

pre 7 godina

Just keep on showing up.

Eventually everyone will see that the emperor really has no clothes.

In the words of Jerry Garcia Keep on truckin.

You have Trump Administration coming up and not a Clinton Administration.

The climate is changing.

Los Donalderos

pre 7 godina

Hey CNN worshipers, did y'all know that the father of the stillborn is accused of rape?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-mentions-rape-discussing-bill-clinton-223348

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?"
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 16:53)

Which agreement? Do you maybe refer to point #14 of the 2013 agreements?

"It is agreed that neither side will block, or encourage others to block, the other side's progress in their respective EU path."

I didn't know that protesting against Kosovo joining UEFA (against the clear UEFA statutes which should allow only recognized UN member countries to become members) can be seen as 'blocking' - neither is UEFA membership a milestone on the 'EU path' (the same goes for a dial code, I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)

Or what else do you mean? Where can I find this 'blocking admissions to international organizations' you mentioned?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership. Otherwise, Kosovo wouldn't be lobbying for years trying to get in. Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

Really? You give the Domovina far too much credit. The EC has already expressed frustration with Croatia's illogical stance and all signs point to an unblocking of negotiations by next week. You honestly think little Croatia has the same weight as Germany? Because if you do, you'll be in for some rough times when Serbia gets EU membership and gets to play around with Albania and, if it comes to it, Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

There should be no problem with this if it's understood non-states can be members. Of course Serbia dramatizes everything.

#2 So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Nothing. I have absolutely no problem with visa liberalization being rewarded if corruption is dealt with. I have even less of a problem if it comes after agreeing to establish ZSO without any further obstacles or tear gas canisters from Albanian extremists.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Um, check here and update your complaint roster:
http://inserbia.info/today/2015/06/serbia-to-hand-over-all-cadastral-information-from-kosovo-to-pristina/

So lets do first agreements first!
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.

observer

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.
(Comm. Parrisson, 27 May 2016 14:52)

You are right. The majority of the EU countries should insist on Serbia recognizing Kosovo (therefore making Brussel talks obsolete). Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying. Unfortunately both our expectations are not met.

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Hmm, "fantastic insolence" is a slogan I'd more ascribe to the bombastic leadership of Kosovo than Belgrade, but yes, Tahiri does have a professional ability at making up stipulations as they go, interpreting agreements according to her own interests, and making announcements on agreements that were never reached. She's more there for entertainment value than diplomatic acumen, but she's only a messenger of the regime she represents, and that regime has been doing whatever it takes to delay implementing agreements reached three years ago while simultaneously blaming the other side for the delay. Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. "
(Guest, 27 May 2016 13:21)

Everybody knows that, without the EU, Serbia wouldn't go to the dialogues.

But it is still worth to mention again and again that Kosovo delays, obstructs and maliciously misinterprets AGREED deals from the Brussels talk. If the EU had any guts, it would insist on implementing what was was signed, literally, otherwise no visa-free travel, no financial support and other privileges this mafia state and it's leaders enjoy.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

". If the EU had any guts,"
why, who is the EU afraid of? or is this another one of your comments that has been entered without you engaging any of your brain cells? p.s. Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?

goat riders in the sky

pre 7 godina

Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"

That's the reason the Kosovo Albanians are drowning in foreign investments, especially from Afghanistan. LOL

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Maybe, lets aim a little lower and just go for dismissal of parallel structures, not blocking dial code and not blocking further attempts on joing international organisations. As signed."

Or, handing over the cadastral records stolen in Kosova during the war. Or, allowing the school books from Kosova just like Kosova allows the school books from Serbia. Or, recognizing Kosova's insurance cards. As signed.

Oh is that too much to ask for? Ok, let's aim for much lower and get to very bottom, to the basic level of human decency: How about Serbia returns the remains of those thousands of civilians kidnapped in Kosova during the war, killed and buried in Serbia.

factman

pre 7 godina

Just keep on showing up.

Eventually everyone will see that the emperor really has no clothes.

In the words of Jerry Garcia Keep on truckin.

You have Trump Administration coming up and not a Clinton Administration.

The climate is changing.

factman

pre 7 godina

Without Recognition... no EU membership, no financial support, no trade and investments and other privileges this genocidal theocracy is enjoying.

###

The above comment is fantasy.

Not only have an increasing amount of firms moved to Serbia from Western Europe, but aid has increased and political pressure has ceased.

It is not in Europe's interest any longer to keep Serbia down. Europe needs a healthy Serbia to bolster the Balkans.

New game. New rules underway.

The comment is also illogical.

By the time the so-called ultimatum to recognize is delivered, Serbia economy will be strong and healthy (one the pre-requisites for entry into the EU).

Who is going to "force" Serbia to do anything at that time? Teh tiem to force them is now (but no one is doing that).

Your theory has a lot of holes in it.

roberto

pre 7 godina

'Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence"' Who the hell are these fascistic Serbian officials to accuse Edita Tahiri of insolence, as though they still owned Kosovo and all of its citizens, and Butcher of the Balkans Slobo Milosevic were still in charge?! Truly pathetic, while they continue to lie and cover up the aftermath of genocide:

http://instituteforgenocide.org/?p=11511

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.

Guest

pre 7 godina

Serbia is far more in need of normalization relations with Kosovo, the fact that Serbia is in process of becoming an EU member, that is because of diologue with the representatives of Kosovo. Seen politicians are well aware of it, they just don't have the guts to admit it.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

just more serb BS, and serb propaganda on B92. B92 is sinking lower and lower. It actually is activly involved in spreading false information, like it did yesterday in a report about the waterfront project. It never mentioned the 10,000 people protesting on wednesday in Belgrade against the project , and prints comments by sasa.p that these were people on their way to a football game, but doesn't publish a correction to his lies. So, you are activly involed in lying, in reporting false stories, and you want your readers believe the stories you publish? by acting like this you show that you are not trustworthy. Well, Serbia obviously is slipping back into the dark ages.
(observer, 27 May 2016 15:53) # Comm

Observer,Why do you keep reading B92,and leaving your comments??.
Specially since B92 spreads propaganda,that you disagree with Serb site/forum !!.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).
(Reader, 27 May 2016 19:36)

Ok, looks like a few around here need some simplified clarification:

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.

4. No one in Serbia except for a small few gives a damn about Jeremic becoming UNSG. It's widely understood it will go to a woman anyway.

Anything else you'd like to add that doesn't make sense to the topic of the article? I see you avoided mentioning Tahiri's lack of qualifications.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership. Otherwise, Kosovo wouldn't be lobbying for years trying to get in. Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.
(icj1, 28 May 2016 21:11)

Really? You give the Domovina far too much credit. The EC has already expressed frustration with Croatia's illogical stance and all signs point to an unblocking of negotiations by next week. You honestly think little Croatia has the same weight as Germany? Because if you do, you'll be in for some rough times when Serbia gets EU membership and gets to play around with Albania and, if it comes to it, Kosovo.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 7 godina

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

There should be no problem with this if it's understood non-states can be members. Of course Serbia dramatizes everything.

#2 So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Nothing. I have absolutely no problem with visa liberalization being rewarded if corruption is dealt with. I have even less of a problem if it comes after agreeing to establish ZSO without any further obstacles or tear gas canisters from Albanian extremists.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

Um, check here and update your complaint roster:
http://inserbia.info/today/2015/06/serbia-to-hand-over-all-cadastral-information-from-kosovo-to-pristina/

So lets do first agreements first!
(Gjakova, 28 May 2016 16:05)

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.

Reader

pre 7 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

While you dismiss Kosovo's diplomacy with words that remind one of a teenager spreading gossip around, Kosovo joins FIFA and UEFA, gets a recommendation on visa free access from the EC, and Serbia is struggles to open chapter 23 and sends none other than Jeremic to try for the UN top job. sj knows a term about people who live in denial :). It is a term from psychology :).

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Regardless of the reason or motive, I dismissed Tahiri as a qualified diplomat years ago but Belgrade needs to be far more assertive as well in getting agreements to be implemented.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 16:38)

B.A,
Your bluster is increasing day by day, though it's sad your air of superiority is falling on deaf ears. If Serbia is failing to have its side taken seriously then, perhaps, she should examine the manner in which she presents herself to other nations. Not getting the respect you think you deserve is usually an indication of self deception and illusions of grandeur. You must admit Serbia has a great deal of difficulty getting along with whomever she interacts. If she does not recognize and correct her false air of superiority, she will remain face down in the mud.

Los Donalderos

pre 7 godina

Hey CNN worshipers, did y'all know that the father of the stillborn is accused of rape?
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-mentions-rape-discussing-bill-clinton-223348

Avni

pre 7 godina

Serbian fantastic lies. They want to start with last agreement they signed ignoring previous agreements. They want to have the cake and eat it too. Croatia's foreign minister told them the truth. You can't enroll in university without passing the exam.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"Serbia has already violated the agreement not to obstruct Kosovo's admission in international organisations, but for whatever reason, this is not a problem for you. tit for tat eh?"
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 16:53)

Which agreement? Do you maybe refer to point #14 of the 2013 agreements?

"It is agreed that neither side will block, or encourage others to block, the other side's progress in their respective EU path."

I didn't know that protesting against Kosovo joining UEFA (against the clear UEFA statutes which should allow only recognized UN member countries to become members) can be seen as 'blocking' - neither is UEFA membership a milestone on the 'EU path' (the same goes for a dial code, I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)

Or what else do you mean? Where can I find this 'blocking admissions to international organizations' you mentioned?

icj1

pre 7 godina

"Pristina negotiator accused of "fantastic insolence""

B92, you guys (or gals) are really creative with the news story titles. When I read the title above, I thought it was very interesting and proceeded to read it hoping to find some substance.

But, unfortunately had to stop at the first paragraph after reading that the title was based on what was said by the deputy director of the Serbian Government Office for Kosovo and Metohija :)

A more appropriate title would have been: "Belgrade's negotiator accuses Pristina's negotiator for "fantastic insolence"".

icj1

pre 7 godina

Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

That sounds totally nonsense. What does being a state have to do with UN membership?!

First, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. That's according to the UN itself.

Second, some UN members were not sovereign states recognized by anybody. So, being a UN member does not make an entity a sovereign and recognized state.
----------

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation"
3. Croatia is currently being told by the rest of the EU to cut the crap and Chapter 23 will be formally open next week.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

Yes, and the operative word is "told", not any concrete action, because there is nothing that the rest of the EU can do other than talking to Croatia.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Your bluster is increasing day by day
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 02:45)

Then stop reading my posts. Based on what you write around here, I couldn't care less what you think. Not my fault you get angry at having your opinions challenged with data.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 28 May 2016 22:36)

B.A,
Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet. btw, I have yet to see you provide data of any sort to backup your claims.
Furthermore, if you bothered to check, you would find Dr. Tahiri is far more qualified than any of the clowns representing the Serbian negotiations team.

icj1

pre 7 godina

A state is not internationally recognized as sovereign if it does not have UN membership.

Thank you for enrolling in International Relations 101.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:49)

Are you saying that in this International Relations 101 course that you teach, students learn that the UN is the authority that recognizes states and governments?!

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

1. Kosovo's UEFA and FIFA membership are part of the Brussels Agreement and since other non-states are members of both, this is a non-issue. Or should be a non-issue. Write back when Kosovo gets EU, NATO, or UN membership. Until then, it's a non-state entity.

2. Kosovo gets a recommendation for visa-free travel that counts for only a non-working visa. And the operative word is "recommendation" contingent on cleaning up corruption and complying with international agreements.

(Balkan Anthropologist, 27 May 2016 23:32)

So why is Serbia not following its Brussels agreement with point #1 and trying every step not to let Kosovo join UEFA and FIFA, would that mean Serbia did not follow its international agreements?

#2So what is wrong with cleaning up corruption and the international agreement about ZSO is in line it says by Kosovo law and Kosovo constitution.

#3 Why Serbia has not returned Land deeds (cadastral documents) it took (Stole) in 1999 and agreed way back in 2011 to return which it has not done.

So lets do first agreements first!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I never read anywhere that having a dial code is a requirement foe EU membership)
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 May 2016 18:04)

Friendly reminder. Chapter 35 "normalization of relations with Kosovo" is a requirement for EU membership. Brusseltalks are implemented to reach that "normalization" and the dial code is part of that normalization. Let me break it down for you.

No dial code, no Brussel Agreements, no Normalisation, No chapter 35, no EU.

Get it? Good.
Kosovo and Serbia are going to join EU either at the same time as two independent states or neither is going to join. Mark my words.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

The point of my initial post. What's your excuse for not allowing the establishment of ZSO? Here, I'll even help another alleged problem of yours: Tahiri's delusional paranoia with "parallel institutions" will be "shut down" once ZSO forms. Win-win for everyone.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 19:06)

Nobody is saying ZSO wont be established. Kosovo CC ruled that some of the statutes of the ZSO are in violation of the Constetution. Now the statutes need to be reformulated. Maybe Kosovo CC will be asked for a second time, just to be sure. Formation of ZSO requires the change of legislation and parliament session dont take place everyday.

Change of legislation is a serious matter. So many obstacles to consider. It also depends on the cooperation of the Serb List in parliament. Tit for tat.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)

B.A,
I expected this kind of delusional response from you.l It's your problem that normal Serbs agree with me.

EU Citizen

pre 7 godina

Why would I get angry at you, it would be like getting angry at a puppy that soiled the carpet.
(The Count of Kosova, 28 May 2016 23:48)

Of course you're angry at me. Otherwise you would have ignored my posts instead of mashing something incomprehensible on your keyboard like some irate North Korean official :)

What data are you looking for to back up my claims? Tahiri has a habit of being all bluster and no delivery. The fact you needed to refer to her as "Dr. Tahiri" is little more than an attempt at trumping up her credentials - an all too often tactic in the Balkans when supporters of some charlatan need to push the idea they somehow got a PhD.

Like "Dr. Franjo Tudjman" or "Dr. Vojislav Seselj". All you've done in your posts is complain. Which is what you do in most of your posts. If you can't communicate like the adult you think you are, don't embarrass yourself with another attempt at replying and then spend the rest of the afternoon recommending your own post as a way to make it look like the Internet agrees with you.

It takes a lot to even make the fools from Belgrade's negotiating team look like that rationally sane ones.
(,Balkan Anthropologist, 29 May 2016 18:45)


Mr. Balkan Anthropologist,
You're trying much too hard. Can't you tell when you're in over your head. It's time to go back to the minor leagues.