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Wednesday, 25.05.2016.

11:27

"Albanians, helped by Serbs, silently occupy south Serbia"

Over the last five years about 11,000 ethnic Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija moved to the area of the town of Nis, in the southern part of central Serbia.

Izvor: Sputnik

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Blue Angel

pre 7 godina

Clearly there is great deal of misunderstanding about this article Some of the Albanians who made negative comments about this article are militant and aggressive worsteds the Serbs Those Albanians form Kosovo pause No threat to Serbia or to the Serbian people Those Kosovo Albanians Have Accepted Serbian Passports and Serbian Laws They Left Kosovo and Albania to Live and seek Integration with Serbia, For Better Future. If all Kosovo Albanians did the same Kosovo would be peaceful and prosperous Serbian province. No Ethnic Albanian militant would accept such a thing to be Integrated with Serbia or to accept Serbian Passport. Not all Albanians are bad people.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Oh dear, B92 has taken to censoring my comments, though there's no incendiary in what I write. lets give it another go:

"Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy." I did not know that the Australian gov. owned every single news outlet in Australia. Yet more conspiracies eh sj?

"Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal ..." hmmm, not sure, if Albanian migrants got away with all of that in 1999, then you really don't have a functioning judiciary at all.

"Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media. " but you said it was never been reported, what do you mean it was not mentioned again? dear oh dear

re Kosovo and economises, we're discussed it to death, I really don't see what more I can add to it that I have not mentioned already

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 11:33)

After WW2 all religion was banned in Albania and was declared the first atheist state. The communist created that secular culture that you talk about.
Kosovo is now targeted by Saudi since they have financed 800 new mosques alone. You have more and more people attending them and now they have over 300 fighting for ISIS in Syria and these numbers will increase since unemployment is very high there.
I hope you are right and it does not come to Albania and its people are strong enough to resist it. It’s a terrible disease of the mind when someone promises you houses and cars in heaven if only you kill yourself for God.
I would love to see a woman become an Imam and it would change everything for the better. A few Christian churches would benefit from allowing women to lead services too.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

All I have to tell to you is: First Albania and Kosovo aren't Muslim countries are secular countries. Second: In Kosovo the religion was never banned –so why Albanian men don’t “cover” their girls- women? Simple, because is in our culture–we REFUSE that any religion can “touch” our Albanian Identity, culture or traditions. Furthermore, the Albanian women are in strong position, we fight for having the same rights as man have, so what you tell will never..never happened in Albania, believe me. It never happened in those 25 years of transition it will never happened. Furthermore the Saudi are pushing to much in Bosnia not in Albania – Kosovo.
Regarding to the Saudi – they are a little like US in M.East, they make the rules and the others follow... Saudi and Jordania are Syria neighbors – while Jordania accepted a lot of Syrians, the Saudi closed their borders and they refused to help them – so that tell to much to me.
All I have to tell is that the revolution of Muslim Religion have begun. Look the BasHar Al Assad woman, or Rania of Jordania, look Azerbaijan..etc..etc..

Joni

pre 7 godina

@sj
Ps: I had to apologise – I have a prob.with my posting here – so my msg. were not posted all.
Now:
The only one who can make the revolution in Muslim religion are the women. That day when a woman will be one Imam the Muslim religion will change forever. Unfortunately in Middle East those are not to “strong”, or are submitted by the men, or even like to be like that - like to wear hijab - and i'm sorry for that.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 09:56)
I know the difference between a scarf and Muslim headgear. Headscarfs are worn by elderly women. Even the Queen of England wears a scarf during winter.
I was in berat for a couple of hours which for me was enough time. I was in Tirana, Duress, Vlore, Korce. And a few other places.

sj

pre 7 godina

concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Now Lord of the Dance don’t be like that. My people were all free settlers not Albanians.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL"

absolutely not, you write stupid things because you make them up as you go along. am i to believe that in a country like Australia, rape, assault and robbery go unreported?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Dude you forgot Dragoljub or what was his name again? That guy who keeps calling for Serbia to return to "Mother Russia" and Arn. Sweden. Arn. doesnt write much but when he does, its completely mental.

Both are contenders for place 3 because they have been around for longer than Skend.

sj

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 09:22)


Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy.
Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal and we do have a functioning judiciary not that rabble in Pristina who think a law book is something you take to the out house to tear out the pages.
Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media.
Once again where does Kosova make its money? You should know as you’re an economist or are you one of those that studied alchemy in the economics department of Prisitna Univesity? Try to convert lead to gold?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Now, you never told to me that you were in Berat, remember I have asked to you? You told to me that you have visit some other cities in Albania not Berat, but by the way..

Regarding to the women with handkerchief you have seen in Albania, you have seen them just in villages – and that kind of handkerchief, has nothing to do with the religion but with tradition.

In north villages the elderly women use a nice handkerchief part of northern folk, while in South villages some women use one white handkerchief when they go to work, while the elderly women one black handkerchief.( This kind of handkerchief you will find even in some Greek villages and has nothing to do with religion ).
There are a very few Albanian women which use the hijab, because the hijab is to to rare in Albanian women – those which wear it are Turkish or some Iranian which live in Albania.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?

sj

pre 7 godina

I remember that too. She was a translator.
(Peggy, 26 May 2016 22:59)

I don’t recall what she did in the camp, but it was never publicised widely. Had this been a Serb you would not have seen an end to it.
I can tell you that shop owners in Maitland, Kuri Kuri, Cessnock and as far as Singleton all complained about Albanians stealing. I would guess this was all hushed up by the Federal Government and they paid for any losses. Its not a good look to have people you “saved” from the bad Serbs stealing from local shop owners.
My family members talked about the refugees complaining about the quality of meals in these camps; it was not up to their “standard” and demanding mobile phones.
I also recall when the Albanians main and only TV spokesman, who was a lecturer from Monash University, but whose name I don’t recall now, pleading with John Howard to keep the 6000 in Australia, but knowing what the Albanians did while here being saved, there would have been more of a chance travelling to the nearest star in one day than that ever occurring.
I also understand that there are more stories along this line from Tasmani

sj

pre 7 godina

You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL. Me thinks it you that lack a few grey cells. Why even those numbers that are quoted in the NYT are fake; its all fake to make Albos look bad and sj organised it too LOL.
On the tennis matter it was the Croats that caused that one and they were kicked out. You see the knuckle draggers did not have one player at the Australian open that year, but the Serbs had several including Djokovic and quality always shows.
Please take up Skenderbeu 1444 offer and move to your Albo sites or even with your beloved Croats at least they will tolerate you for a short time LOL.
Still waiting on a reply how Kosova makes it money?

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

@Skenderbeu
You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

I don't know sj but I am serious about what I wrote. You are all in a file waiting for any of the Serbs or Rote to throw you a bone and to reply to you. You don't see yourselves but it hurts me to see you knocking anyday in Serbs' doors. Croats are waiting for your brain I'm telling you. What did you write? Yes, plus Croats didn't kill any Albanian and they love Catolic and Muslim Albanians. If you are Ortodox please don't come and remain here.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:36)
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I remember that too. She was a translator.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone.
(sj, 26 May 2016 17:42)

Just wanted to note that the CE of B92 forums sj has vetted the New York Times as being a reliable source of information.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 16:58)
The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone. In Bosnia I have seen plenty of covered women with headscarves and Niqabs. In fact parts of Sarajevo look like the middle east. In Albania I saw none in Tirana but there were women in Berat and further inland who wore headscarves.
In Kosovo I saw women wearing the headscarf which was forbidden during communism but they were older women. Now that Saudi money is being pumped into the area it will not take long to see drastic changes.
So the Roma collaborated with the Serbs and they deserved to be driven out of paradise. I doubt that all roma collaborated, but it was an opportunity to kick them out because they are different.
All I ask from Albanian Christians who believe in this Albanianism to take another route when they are forced out that does not include Serbia, Greece or Macedonia and this will happen because Islam tolerates no one.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

They don`t know even how to do internet scams , because they even don`t have normal speed conections in Albania + in many cities

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread

Maserati

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread
(adrian_bucharest, 26 May 2016 16:14)

They also compete for bread with the pigeons in St. Mark's Square.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom? Oh, i forgot Serbs have their personal god!

If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civilians in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj
I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom?
You like to create those!
If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civils in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:45)

The year is 1999 and it was a rescue of Albanians being persecuted by nasty Serbs and what would the locals think of headlines like “Albanians rape one of their own, attempt to rob local bank, Albanians saved by Australia responsible for theft from locals businesses.”
Now Australia was part of this “worldwide” save the Albanians project with our Prime Minister greeting the first arrivals. Now how would those headlines be a good look?. Give it a bit of thought be replying.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Federal Government had to hold community meetings..."...and not a single news outlet, local or national saw fit to write on these meetings ? When was a story about migrants raping women not become newsworthy? but no no, your relatives attended these meetings so its definitely not rubbish. sunshine, there are people in Kosovo who have married non-Albanians and non-Muslims and they have not been threatened, attacked, killed or ostracised. you wish that they had been, but that is your issue.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

You will never understand the concept of pluralism and our way of living. Its like trying to explain the concept of flying a plane to a monkey.

B==============================================================b

On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

NYT also regularely reported on Serb warcimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We can take NYT as upholder of truth if you want. I dont have a problem with that. We will have to take reponsebility for the rising extremism. How are you going to take responsibility for warcrimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide?

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ"

I don't doubt this for a second, it seems to be a habit of Australian Serbs to also fight with Australian Croats when watching tennis games. There's me thinking the heavenly people were tolerant! although, it may just be an Australian thing.

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.
(sj

That says a lot about you and your Serbian friends. What's the difference between you and your Serbian friends and Islamic zealots, other then your religion? Turks definitely left a mark on your psyche and it shows.

sj

pre 7 godina

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.
(The Count of Kosova, 26 May 2016 14:42)

I don’t give a rats if you believe me or not. You have Serbian friends? You write the way you write about Serbs and you have Serbian friends? What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

Now you are independent state of Kosova.You can leave a comment in 3-4 days as I do but you are here anyday. Ortodox have the same religion so maybe they want tp write more. You are Catolic so what are you doing in Serbs website? You know that expression in Albanian to stick like the shit on somebody else shoes. This is what you are doing here. Very bad figure in foreign sites. Go comment in Kosova magazines because Kosova is free now and they post your comments and they need you.They need us! Croats are also welcoming you but Albania and Kosova need us the most. I told you that Croats will publish an article and it is not good for us to be the number 1 commenters on Serbs site. It means that we are not free yet in our mind and we can't live without Serbs.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 26 May 2016 15:18)
I have been to both Albania and Kosovo last year and if you are trying to sell this idea of Albo pluralism please don’t it’s a myth in your little head, but if I am wrong please set up a fund for those Albanians living in Kragujevac to rebuild their homes in Kosovo and take them back. Let me know how it goes with the collection.
Personally I don’t give a s*** about the NYT, but it’s the only thing you people believe or so I thought until now. I could not provide Serbian, Russian or Chinese sources since they are not democratic.
War crimes, you mean defending your territory is a war crime well so be it. Ethnic cleansing, you will find that this happened earlier with the Serbs mate so we are even. Genocide? When did that occur? Last time I looked the UNSC never passed resolution on that issue.
Oh I know your talking about those drunks on the ICTY declaring genocide. They don’t matter. It’s the UNSC that decides.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

...so the source of your story is nothing other than people talk? rape, assault and attempted robbery not reported in any newspaper so as to support a narrative of nasty Serbs and good Albos? dear oh dear.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.
(sj, 26 May 2016 13:39)

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 13:32)

I am not an expert on Albanians and never claimed to be, but I know Islam very well since I have lived in a Muslim country for several years.
As I said before all this Albanians are equal business is from the communist era, but that will come to an end very soon. They have built 800 new mosques in Kosovo alone and with that you get radicalisation and intolerance towards anyone that is not a Muslim. It always happens.
I know of no Muslim nation on this planet that shows great tolerance towards non Muslims. However, if there is great tolerance then why have roma Albanians from Kosovo had to leave and seek refuge in Serbia? I know of one settlement located in Kragujevac and a relative teaches their children at school.
I suppose if you say it long enough it has to be true.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Wooww. Nicolle, I'm sure he is an expert on Albanian nation. You know, he live in Albania or Kosovo so he know very well, how it work..
Well, let me tell something sj, nobody in Albania and Kosovo care what religion you have – important is to be Albanian.
I’m sure you know that I’m an Orthodox – well I date one hot Muslim Albanian (from Kosovo origin).
So, if you like to just convince yourself with the rubbish you write , go on and onnn..onnn….

You cannot convince me, because i live in Albania.

sj

pre 7 godina

OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 12:38)

In Maitland, Hunter Valley, New South Wales, at a former military base, where they placed these “refugees”, several attacks on local women by your bros and one rape within the camp itself? They also attempted rob a local bank and a hairdresser salon in that town?
The people of Maitland were spun a story that they have to be patient as the Albos were “traumatised”.
Then on the outskirts of Hobart Tasmania at another camp, police had to be called out many times to stop attacks within the camp? Or the theft from stores by Albanians in Hobart? No there was never a word mentioned because it would have ruined the story about nasty Serbs. How long do you think Albos would have received sympathy if these stories came out?
Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"...on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers"
OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

The current political system in Albania is very much a hangover from the days of Communism, but will not last. Turkey was in that position; they were a secular society until recently and now you have Islamic fascists running the country. In Kosovo there were claims of a secular society and today there are 800 new mosques and growing; same in Albania.
During the great “humanitarian exit” from Kosovo in 1999 about 6000 were flown to Australia to “save them from the Serbs” and only a handful were allowed to stay on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers. It turns out they were either of the wrong religion or mixed marriages (not with Serbs, but others ethnic groups). So much for your tolerance. It’s a myth.
As I said before the only people who talk about “Albanians are Albanians” live abroad.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 25 May 2016 16:20)

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
All of this brotherhood and unity comes from Albos living abroad not in Albania or Kosovo. However, if you want to prove me wrong then please take up a collection to rebuild all those destroyed houses in Kosovo belonging to roma Albanians who were given sanctuary by Serbs and now living in Kragujevac. I can even take you to them. I have been there.
On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
“It is a stunning turnabout for a land of 1.8 million people that not long ago was among the most pro-American Muslim societies in the world. Americans were welcomed as liberators after leading months of NATO bombing in 1999 that spawned an independent Kosovo”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/europe/how-the-saudis-turned-kosovo-into-fertile-ground-for-isis.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

sj

pre 7 godina

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.
(cry me a river, 25 May 2016 15:41)

In my field I am an expert and I have been paid extremely well over the years for that expertise, but my knowledge of Serbian law is non existent. However, I do have relatives in Serbia that are lawyers and when I heard the news about Albos buying property I asked them.
They told me about the laws on buying land in Serbia from people living in Kosovo. They cannot register that purchase. Kosovo is contested land and there are special rules; Serbs from Kosovo can, but you guys cannot. The problem with Albos is they have abandoned large parts of Albania moved into Macedonia, the EU or Kosovo and now Kosova is not looking too good so they want to move onwards.
Sorry lads but rotting in Kosova is your fate.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"For example: an Albanian gives a Serb money to buy a property in their own name, making another contract in court according to which the Albanian is lending the Serb precisely that amount of money, while the property is taken as collateral," the article said, adding that the Serb then "fails to repay the debt in time, allowing the Albanian to become the owner of the property, without leaving any trace of the transaction.""

What a nonsense!!! Not a surprise though since it's coming from a source like sputnik...

When the Serb fails to repay the debt in time, the Albanian (as the creditor) becomes the owner of the collateral (the property) and that fact is recorded into the cadastre so, of course, the transaction leaves a trace; more than one trace actually.

The only thing that sputnik failed to add to this nonsense story is that this amounts to genocide and ethnic cleansing against the heavenly Serbs :)

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Very good editorial rote, you a true Dear Brother and defender of us innocent Serbian people!!! Us Serbian people, the innocent and weak, the ones who know and understand but can not control! If only every Serbian could be made to understand that our Dear Mother Russia is the epic center of all Slavic Brotherhood in the world! Many mistakes the Serbian people made in the last hundred or so years, now all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans severly damaged! Only God and Russia can save Serbia now, Dear Mother Russia is our God!!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Famous Albanian priest and writer Ndre Mjeda said that cursed will be that son of an Albanian who doesn’t write in his mothers language! I don’t have much time because I have three little stores to run. Why don’t you write in Albanian magazines? Do you know that BIRN and Radio Free Europe will publish an article soon with statistics on who writes more in the neighbors site? Do you know that Croats are saying that the first will be placed Albanians on Serbs sites with more than 350 comments in a month? Why don’t you write in Albanian and Croatian sites? What is wrong with you? Do you have shame or what to write in Albanian magazines? I check Tema 0 comments, check Respublica 0 comment and find B92 article
http://www.respublica.al/2016/05/25/agjencia-e-lajmeve-e-kremlinit-shqiptar%C3%ABt-po-pushtojn%C3%AB-serbin%C3%AB-jugore
I check Telegrafi, Panorama, Ekspres, Blic, Koha Ditore, 0 comments. What is happening? O moj Shqypni e mjera Shqypni, kush t’ka qit me krye n’hi!! O poor Albania who made your head put in the ash? Ti ke pas kene nji zonje e rande, burrat e dheut te thojshin nane! Serbs not allow Albanian books to go to Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

@sasa - very valid point.
P.S. Sorry about your Krstic's loss to Nuri Seferi. Apparently, the tattoo of Ratko Mladic on his chest failed to intimidate his opponent.

Yugoslavian Loyal

pre 7 godina

Let's bury this hate once and for all. Hate is baggage. Lets not be slaves to history. It is our time. Your true brothers and sisters are people of your time not your ancestors from 200 years ago. Share culture, laugh drink and enjoy :)

internet warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......
(albanian warrior,

If they sell their own mothers for money, what do you think they will do to your mother???

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans aleady.

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans already

Naim

pre 7 godina

This article is real.. I like the details written: but this is how it is - you can't stop this.

We want our land back and you know what: we will get it back - €uro? Yes that's ok we will buy it if needed..

We are now in a digital age - we run things through dialogue and we work with the law. So Serbia wants me to be Serbian citizen? Yes - ok I will be but can Serbia stop its citizens of buying land in their own country?? NO big NO.. So get the money and off here..

Vranje, Sandzak, Leskovac, prokuplje, Kursumlija, down to Medvedja, Presheva and Bujanovac.

We will get them even if it takes generation. In 50 years will be ours. Wait and see..

Solution for Serbia:
Recognition of our State, special law to stop Albanians of buying property. But I am afraid this will not be possible because of EU standards.

So just give up.

John

pre 7 godina

This is propaganda. As for Nish, it has always been inhabited by Albanians and regularly they have been forced by serbs to migrate elsewhere. Autochthonous flew over Belgrade to transmit the message to all.

agRONio

pre 7 godina

I knew this story going to come one time but not now. From Nis Vranje Novi Pazar Tutin Toplica Prokuplja the were albanian majority but Serbs for land grabin ethnically cleansed after world war 1, there are 4-5 million Albanians leaving in Turkey one day all going to return in their places. I find this totally natural project and going to happen (I don't belive at all RT )

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 7 godina

I have already begun my sinister plot to take over Serbia...(cue sinister laugh)MUUUUWWWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ok! that's enough for today. Off to the pub. I need a beer.

albanian warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......

albo

pre 7 godina

wave bye bye Serbia ,Serbia will be Belgrade in the next 20 years if that....lol....Kosovo = gone presovo = gone nis will be gone ,vranja gone hehhhhehhehe........vojvodina = gone hehhehehhehhehehhehehhe everything gone but Belgrade....even that will be gone.....you have 0 kids and albos have 10 kids per family......we need the land to put our children on.............you just need old folks homes which we will provide until your population hits zero.....soon Albanians will have all of former Yugoslavia from Macedonia to Croatia all of it.....

Dwight

pre 7 godina

First, are you seriously telling us that 100's of Kosovo Albanians are taking their life savings and buying land in Serbia to spread the Albanian race.
These amazing Kosovo Albanians have some hive mind capable of conquering Serbia by stealth.
Did it ever occur that maybe they just want to live in Nis becasue it has better schools for their children, good transport links, available farmland etc, you know, the same reason everyone buys a home

Second, is there a law that says you must be an ethnically pure Serb to buy an apartment in Serbia?

And last of all.....seriously, a nearly 3 year old article from Novosti is plagarised by propoganda site Sputnik and then copied by B92

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/drustvo/aktuelno.290.html:452432-Albanci-kupuju-stanove-po-Nisu

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.
(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

As a catholic albanian, I agree. You see, Sj is still running that 90ies propaganda carrousell. What can I say, he does not know any better. Serbs still try to paint Kosovo and Albania as islamic threats and try to play the faith card. As a religious fanatic and intolerant socity they do not understand our concept of having something that unites us above religion.

We are one Nation. Where the sword is, is the faith, and the belief of an Albanian is to be an Albanian.

MikeD

pre 7 godina

We can hire masked men to tear down Serb buildings in Savamala but we let this happen?! Who want's to bet that these poor Albanians didn't just stumble upon cash. Probably Saudi money or Albo mafia... I mean government.

Ratko

pre 7 godina

Look at all these paid anti serb trolls here... what a joke. On a daily basis spreading disinformation, propaganda, lies; discrediting truth, supporting lies as truth, writing cynical insulting comments.

Tough times for serbia under nato occupation since 1999..

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal.
(sj,

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

After the news about Inva Mula I thought Serbian media will be more open minded when it talks about Albanians.
But it looks like I am wrong.
Paranoia against Albanians has deep roots in Serbia.
Today I am reading this rubbish news from Russia, which says that poor Albanians are moving in Nish buying houses and lands.
Make up you mind, either Albanians are poor or not buying lands and houses. You can not be poor and buy real estate...

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj,

I forgot to add to the list of your expertise. You're also an expert on religious matters in Albania.

Ksaldo

pre 7 godina

However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj, 25 May 2016 13:56) # Comment link


It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Unfortunately, these are consequences of refusing to deal with reality. We refused to accept the loss of Kosovo, so they used their momentum to spread their country further. It might still not be too late. NATO is the only thing that can save us now. We need to be rational here, people!

Anon

pre 7 godina

I once conducted a thesis on this particular subject 6 years ago and predicted that this would eventually happen. Economically it is the best option for albanians to move to serbia however the reasons are different than this article here presents. This article presents these albanians as working together and having sinister motives when that is not the case. The demand for land is relatively high for that region (kosovo) in the world due to factors of population, small land available and some others. Kosovo is smaller in size than Montenegro and has a much bigger population, 3X times bigger and that is further increased by kosovo albanian disporsa which can increase the population of kosovo from 1.8 million to 4 million and thats not an exergeration as kosovo itself has said its population reaches 4 million in the summers due to as they call it "tourisim" although it is in actual fact kosovo albanians returning for the summer, mind you there are small number of tourists that come maybe 10000 max. As i interviewed some of these albanians about this, there was a general census that in order to have any involvement in serbia that they always needed a serb escort to protect them from attacks etc. for example if they needed to go to belgrade to seek healthcare they needed a serbian with them to tell other serbs that they dont want trouble and that they are friends etc.

am running out of charecters, to be continued.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Sasa,

a Montenegrin King said Montenegro Woman can marry any nationality but men Just Montenegro Woman as Montenegrin or any nationality) make only Montenegrian babies. - This is a proverb and not trying to dispute, that they are mix blood its good.

There are Islamist in Kosovo there is no denying but is small small minority, and its something that needs to be controlled fast. However it many Muslim Albanians also are marrying Serbs no big deal, nothing wrong with people buying land.

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.

mark

pre 7 godina

"Albanians, helped by Serbs, silently occupy south Serbia"

The only occupiers in the Balkans are the Serbs and all the other slavic hordes that left the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53)

You are right about something and wrong about others.Yes,Serbs farmer's are marry Catholic brides from North Albanian.
But the Children have Serbian surnames and have mix Serb-Albanian Blood!!. Which is good,bringing people together go live in harmony.I know 2 marriages in that position,that live peacefully in farming near Jagodina.
But,Albanian's buying up land near NIS city is happening,but not with fundamental Muslim's,but normal Albanian's looking for better life.
P's Alot of Albanian's live throughout Serbia peacefully.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Well I know that Russians are good in amusing stories.., and have some good writers to, so I understand their talent.
But, I still wonder how could be possible that there is any notable Serbs writer. Serbs are so good in fairytales, they have an impressive imagination.
After the fairytale that Albanians do to many children, now the poor Albanians in Kosovo are buying in mass lands in Serbia…eee.. Seriously , are there people who believe this? Ok, I think in Serbs are more ignorant than I have imagined.

Maybe – maybe.. for this, the “innocent” Albanian neighbor is just trying to justify the next violence in the regions where Albanians live.

sj

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53

That is true. Many Serbs who live in villages are marrying women from Albania simply because Serbian women do not want to live in a village.
However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

What is wrong with this, its normal for people to want to buy land if they can afford it!

It is a known fact that south Serbia is empty, if North Kosovo was part of Serbia it would empty as well without the money Serbia pours in that region. Humans have moved for years and they want to live well, life in Nis vs Novisad or Beograd is drastically different.

Why is this a problem, I thought Serbs wanted Kosovo back and this time they will treat Albanians better?

I thought Albanians are poor and Kosovo will be empty soon?

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)

sj

pre 7 godina

Factually, this article is only partially correct. There is truth in that some Albos from Kosovo are using Serbs as intermediaries and in fact they are even buying land.
The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal. From the Serb’s point of view he does that deal on behalf of an Albo and hands over the paperwork but that is all.
I knew about it from my stay in Serbia last year. The fact is Kosovo is disputed land and anyone from Kosovo cannot just purchase land despite Serbia claiming it.
Its amazing these Albanians are leaving Albania moving into Kosovo and now want to move further north again. And here I thought that they created paradise in Kosova LOL.

Rocky

pre 7 godina

Pure evil propaganda by radical Serbians & Russians!!!
It's a well known fact that at one time Albanians were the majority in NIS, and many continue to live there today!!! This is more Bull... comung from Serbia & her sponsor Russia!

Nick

pre 7 godina

This is good news isn't it?
Serbs are also buying property in Kosovo, not maybe in these numbers but my neighbours are Serbian. Lets move on now and be neighbours again..

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

After the news about Inva Mula I thought Serbian media will be more open minded when it talks about Albanians.
But it looks like I am wrong.
Paranoia against Albanians has deep roots in Serbia.
Today I am reading this rubbish news from Russia, which says that poor Albanians are moving in Nish buying houses and lands.
Make up you mind, either Albanians are poor or not buying lands and houses. You can not be poor and buy real estate...

Rocky

pre 7 godina

Pure evil propaganda by radical Serbians & Russians!!!
It's a well known fact that at one time Albanians were the majority in NIS, and many continue to live there today!!! This is more Bull... comung from Serbia & her sponsor Russia!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.
(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

As a catholic albanian, I agree. You see, Sj is still running that 90ies propaganda carrousell. What can I say, he does not know any better. Serbs still try to paint Kosovo and Albania as islamic threats and try to play the faith card. As a religious fanatic and intolerant socity they do not understand our concept of having something that unites us above religion.

We are one Nation. Where the sword is, is the faith, and the belief of an Albanian is to be an Albanian.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

First, are you seriously telling us that 100's of Kosovo Albanians are taking their life savings and buying land in Serbia to spread the Albanian race.
These amazing Kosovo Albanians have some hive mind capable of conquering Serbia by stealth.
Did it ever occur that maybe they just want to live in Nis becasue it has better schools for their children, good transport links, available farmland etc, you know, the same reason everyone buys a home

Second, is there a law that says you must be an ethnically pure Serb to buy an apartment in Serbia?

And last of all.....seriously, a nearly 3 year old article from Novosti is plagarised by propoganda site Sputnik and then copied by B92

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/drustvo/aktuelno.290.html:452432-Albanci-kupuju-stanove-po-Nisu

sj

pre 7 godina

Factually, this article is only partially correct. There is truth in that some Albos from Kosovo are using Serbs as intermediaries and in fact they are even buying land.
The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal. From the Serb’s point of view he does that deal on behalf of an Albo and hands over the paperwork but that is all.
I knew about it from my stay in Serbia last year. The fact is Kosovo is disputed land and anyone from Kosovo cannot just purchase land despite Serbia claiming it.
Its amazing these Albanians are leaving Albania moving into Kosovo and now want to move further north again. And here I thought that they created paradise in Kosova LOL.

Ksaldo

pre 7 godina

However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj, 25 May 2016 13:56) # Comment link


It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal.
(sj,

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.

MikeD

pre 7 godina

We can hire masked men to tear down Serb buildings in Savamala but we let this happen?! Who want's to bet that these poor Albanians didn't just stumble upon cash. Probably Saudi money or Albo mafia... I mean government.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Well I know that Russians are good in amusing stories.., and have some good writers to, so I understand their talent.
But, I still wonder how could be possible that there is any notable Serbs writer. Serbs are so good in fairytales, they have an impressive imagination.
After the fairytale that Albanians do to many children, now the poor Albanians in Kosovo are buying in mass lands in Serbia…eee.. Seriously , are there people who believe this? Ok, I think in Serbs are more ignorant than I have imagined.

Maybe – maybe.. for this, the “innocent” Albanian neighbor is just trying to justify the next violence in the regions where Albanians live.

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

What is wrong with this, its normal for people to want to buy land if they can afford it!

It is a known fact that south Serbia is empty, if North Kosovo was part of Serbia it would empty as well without the money Serbia pours in that region. Humans have moved for years and they want to live well, life in Nis vs Novisad or Beograd is drastically different.

Why is this a problem, I thought Serbs wanted Kosovo back and this time they will treat Albanians better?

I thought Albanians are poor and Kosovo will be empty soon?

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)

mark

pre 7 godina

"Albanians, helped by Serbs, silently occupy south Serbia"

The only occupiers in the Balkans are the Serbs and all the other slavic hordes that left the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj,

I forgot to add to the list of your expertise. You're also an expert on religious matters in Albania.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 7 godina

I have already begun my sinister plot to take over Serbia...(cue sinister laugh)MUUUUWWWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ok! that's enough for today. Off to the pub. I need a beer.

John

pre 7 godina

This is propaganda. As for Nish, it has always been inhabited by Albanians and regularly they have been forced by serbs to migrate elsewhere. Autochthonous flew over Belgrade to transmit the message to all.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Wooww. Nicolle, I'm sure he is an expert on Albanian nation. You know, he live in Albania or Kosovo so he know very well, how it work..
Well, let me tell something sj, nobody in Albania and Kosovo care what religion you have – important is to be Albanian.
I’m sure you know that I’m an Orthodox – well I date one hot Muslim Albanian (from Kosovo origin).
So, if you like to just convince yourself with the rubbish you write , go on and onnn..onnn….

You cannot convince me, because i live in Albania.

albanian warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......

Naim

pre 7 godina

This article is real.. I like the details written: but this is how it is - you can't stop this.

We want our land back and you know what: we will get it back - €uro? Yes that's ok we will buy it if needed..

We are now in a digital age - we run things through dialogue and we work with the law. So Serbia wants me to be Serbian citizen? Yes - ok I will be but can Serbia stop its citizens of buying land in their own country?? NO big NO.. So get the money and off here..

Vranje, Sandzak, Leskovac, prokuplje, Kursumlija, down to Medvedja, Presheva and Bujanovac.

We will get them even if it takes generation. In 50 years will be ours. Wait and see..

Solution for Serbia:
Recognition of our State, special law to stop Albanians of buying property. But I am afraid this will not be possible because of EU standards.

So just give up.

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans already

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53)

You are right about something and wrong about others.Yes,Serbs farmer's are marry Catholic brides from North Albanian.
But the Children have Serbian surnames and have mix Serb-Albanian Blood!!. Which is good,bringing people together go live in harmony.I know 2 marriages in that position,that live peacefully in farming near Jagodina.
But,Albanian's buying up land near NIS city is happening,but not with fundamental Muslim's,but normal Albanian's looking for better life.
P's Alot of Albanian's live throughout Serbia peacefully.

internet warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......
(albanian warrior,

If they sell their own mothers for money, what do you think they will do to your mother???

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Unfortunately, these are consequences of refusing to deal with reality. We refused to accept the loss of Kosovo, so they used their momentum to spread their country further. It might still not be too late. NATO is the only thing that can save us now. We need to be rational here, people!

Ratko

pre 7 godina

Look at all these paid anti serb trolls here... what a joke. On a daily basis spreading disinformation, propaganda, lies; discrediting truth, supporting lies as truth, writing cynical insulting comments.

Tough times for serbia under nato occupation since 1999..

albo

pre 7 godina

wave bye bye Serbia ,Serbia will be Belgrade in the next 20 years if that....lol....Kosovo = gone presovo = gone nis will be gone ,vranja gone hehhhhehhehe........vojvodina = gone hehhehehhehhehehhehehhe everything gone but Belgrade....even that will be gone.....you have 0 kids and albos have 10 kids per family......we need the land to put our children on.............you just need old folks homes which we will provide until your population hits zero.....soon Albanians will have all of former Yugoslavia from Macedonia to Croatia all of it.....

Nick

pre 7 godina

This is good news isn't it?
Serbs are also buying property in Kosovo, not maybe in these numbers but my neighbours are Serbian. Lets move on now and be neighbours again..

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Sasa,

a Montenegrin King said Montenegro Woman can marry any nationality but men Just Montenegro Woman as Montenegrin or any nationality) make only Montenegrian babies. - This is a proverb and not trying to dispute, that they are mix blood its good.

There are Islamist in Kosovo there is no denying but is small small minority, and its something that needs to be controlled fast. However it many Muslim Albanians also are marrying Serbs no big deal, nothing wrong with people buying land.

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.

agRONio

pre 7 godina

I knew this story going to come one time but not now. From Nis Vranje Novi Pazar Tutin Toplica Prokuplja the were albanian majority but Serbs for land grabin ethnically cleansed after world war 1, there are 4-5 million Albanians leaving in Turkey one day all going to return in their places. I find this totally natural project and going to happen (I don't belive at all RT )

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

@sasa - very valid point.
P.S. Sorry about your Krstic's loss to Nuri Seferi. Apparently, the tattoo of Ratko Mladic on his chest failed to intimidate his opponent.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"...on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers"
OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.
(sj, 26 May 2016 13:39)

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans aleady.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

...so the source of your story is nothing other than people talk? rape, assault and attempted robbery not reported in any newspaper so as to support a narrative of nasty Serbs and good Albos? dear oh dear.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

You will never understand the concept of pluralism and our way of living. Its like trying to explain the concept of flying a plane to a monkey.

B==============================================================b

On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

NYT also regularely reported on Serb warcimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We can take NYT as upholder of truth if you want. I dont have a problem with that. We will have to take reponsebility for the rising extremism. How are you going to take responsibility for warcrimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj
I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom?
You like to create those!
If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civils in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL"

absolutely not, you write stupid things because you make them up as you go along. am i to believe that in a country like Australia, rape, assault and robbery go unreported?

sj

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53

That is true. Many Serbs who live in villages are marrying women from Albania simply because Serbian women do not want to live in a village.
However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"For example: an Albanian gives a Serb money to buy a property in their own name, making another contract in court according to which the Albanian is lending the Serb precisely that amount of money, while the property is taken as collateral," the article said, adding that the Serb then "fails to repay the debt in time, allowing the Albanian to become the owner of the property, without leaving any trace of the transaction.""

What a nonsense!!! Not a surprise though since it's coming from a source like sputnik...

When the Serb fails to repay the debt in time, the Albanian (as the creditor) becomes the owner of the collateral (the property) and that fact is recorded into the cadastre so, of course, the transaction leaves a trace; more than one trace actually.

The only thing that sputnik failed to add to this nonsense story is that this amounts to genocide and ethnic cleansing against the heavenly Serbs :)

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Dude you forgot Dragoljub or what was his name again? That guy who keeps calling for Serbia to return to "Mother Russia" and Arn. Sweden. Arn. doesnt write much but when he does, its completely mental.

Both are contenders for place 3 because they have been around for longer than Skend.

Anon

pre 7 godina

I once conducted a thesis on this particular subject 6 years ago and predicted that this would eventually happen. Economically it is the best option for albanians to move to serbia however the reasons are different than this article here presents. This article presents these albanians as working together and having sinister motives when that is not the case. The demand for land is relatively high for that region (kosovo) in the world due to factors of population, small land available and some others. Kosovo is smaller in size than Montenegro and has a much bigger population, 3X times bigger and that is further increased by kosovo albanian disporsa which can increase the population of kosovo from 1.8 million to 4 million and thats not an exergeration as kosovo itself has said its population reaches 4 million in the summers due to as they call it "tourisim" although it is in actual fact kosovo albanians returning for the summer, mind you there are small number of tourists that come maybe 10000 max. As i interviewed some of these albanians about this, there was a general census that in order to have any involvement in serbia that they always needed a serb escort to protect them from attacks etc. for example if they needed to go to belgrade to seek healthcare they needed a serbian with them to tell other serbs that they dont want trouble and that they are friends etc.

am running out of charecters, to be continued.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

@Skenderbeu
You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Very good editorial rote, you a true Dear Brother and defender of us innocent Serbian people!!! Us Serbian people, the innocent and weak, the ones who know and understand but can not control! If only every Serbian could be made to understand that our Dear Mother Russia is the epic center of all Slavic Brotherhood in the world! Many mistakes the Serbian people made in the last hundred or so years, now all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans severly damaged! Only God and Russia can save Serbia now, Dear Mother Russia is our God!!!

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 25 May 2016 16:20)

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
All of this brotherhood and unity comes from Albos living abroad not in Albania or Kosovo. However, if you want to prove me wrong then please take up a collection to rebuild all those destroyed houses in Kosovo belonging to roma Albanians who were given sanctuary by Serbs and now living in Kragujevac. I can even take you to them. I have been there.
On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
“It is a stunning turnabout for a land of 1.8 million people that not long ago was among the most pro-American Muslim societies in the world. Americans were welcomed as liberators after leading months of NATO bombing in 1999 that spawned an independent Kosovo”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/europe/how-the-saudis-turned-kosovo-into-fertile-ground-for-isis.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

The current political system in Albania is very much a hangover from the days of Communism, but will not last. Turkey was in that position; they were a secular society until recently and now you have Islamic fascists running the country. In Kosovo there were claims of a secular society and today there are 800 new mosques and growing; same in Albania.
During the great “humanitarian exit” from Kosovo in 1999 about 6000 were flown to Australia to “save them from the Serbs” and only a handful were allowed to stay on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers. It turns out they were either of the wrong religion or mixed marriages (not with Serbs, but others ethnic groups). So much for your tolerance. It’s a myth.
As I said before the only people who talk about “Albanians are Albanians” live abroad.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ"

I don't doubt this for a second, it seems to be a habit of Australian Serbs to also fight with Australian Croats when watching tennis games. There's me thinking the heavenly people were tolerant! although, it may just be an Australian thing.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.
(sj

That says a lot about you and your Serbian friends. What's the difference between you and your Serbian friends and Islamic zealots, other then your religion? Turks definitely left a mark on your psyche and it shows.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Now, you never told to me that you were in Berat, remember I have asked to you? You told to me that you have visit some other cities in Albania not Berat, but by the way..

Regarding to the women with handkerchief you have seen in Albania, you have seen them just in villages – and that kind of handkerchief, has nothing to do with the religion but with tradition.

In north villages the elderly women use a nice handkerchief part of northern folk, while in South villages some women use one white handkerchief when they go to work, while the elderly women one black handkerchief.( This kind of handkerchief you will find even in some Greek villages and has nothing to do with religion ).
There are a very few Albanian women which use the hijab, because the hijab is to to rare in Albanian women – those which wear it are Turkish or some Iranian which live in Albania.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

All I have to tell to you is: First Albania and Kosovo aren't Muslim countries are secular countries. Second: In Kosovo the religion was never banned –so why Albanian men don’t “cover” their girls- women? Simple, because is in our culture–we REFUSE that any religion can “touch” our Albanian Identity, culture or traditions. Furthermore, the Albanian women are in strong position, we fight for having the same rights as man have, so what you tell will never..never happened in Albania, believe me. It never happened in those 25 years of transition it will never happened. Furthermore the Saudi are pushing to much in Bosnia not in Albania – Kosovo.
Regarding to the Saudi – they are a little like US in M.East, they make the rules and the others follow... Saudi and Jordania are Syria neighbors – while Jordania accepted a lot of Syrians, the Saudi closed their borders and they refused to help them – so that tell to much to me.
All I have to tell is that the revolution of Muslim Religion have begun. Look the BasHar Al Assad woman, or Rania of Jordania, look Azerbaijan..etc..etc..

Yugoslavian Loyal

pre 7 godina

Let's bury this hate once and for all. Hate is baggage. Lets not be slaves to history. It is our time. Your true brothers and sisters are people of your time not your ancestors from 200 years ago. Share culture, laugh drink and enjoy :)

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Famous Albanian priest and writer Ndre Mjeda said that cursed will be that son of an Albanian who doesn’t write in his mothers language! I don’t have much time because I have three little stores to run. Why don’t you write in Albanian magazines? Do you know that BIRN and Radio Free Europe will publish an article soon with statistics on who writes more in the neighbors site? Do you know that Croats are saying that the first will be placed Albanians on Serbs sites with more than 350 comments in a month? Why don’t you write in Albanian and Croatian sites? What is wrong with you? Do you have shame or what to write in Albanian magazines? I check Tema 0 comments, check Respublica 0 comment and find B92 article
http://www.respublica.al/2016/05/25/agjencia-e-lajmeve-e-kremlinit-shqiptar%C3%ABt-po-pushtojn%C3%AB-serbin%C3%AB-jugore
I check Telegrafi, Panorama, Ekspres, Blic, Koha Ditore, 0 comments. What is happening? O moj Shqypni e mjera Shqypni, kush t’ka qit me krye n’hi!! O poor Albania who made your head put in the ash? Ti ke pas kene nji zonje e rande, burrat e dheut te thojshin nane! Serbs not allow Albanian books to go to Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Federal Government had to hold community meetings..."...and not a single news outlet, local or national saw fit to write on these meetings ? When was a story about migrants raping women not become newsworthy? but no no, your relatives attended these meetings so its definitely not rubbish. sunshine, there are people in Kosovo who have married non-Albanians and non-Muslims and they have not been threatened, attacked, killed or ostracised. you wish that they had been, but that is your issue.

Maserati

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread
(adrian_bucharest, 26 May 2016 16:14)

They also compete for bread with the pigeons in St. Mark's Square.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom? Oh, i forgot Serbs have their personal god!

If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civilians in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?

sj

pre 7 godina

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.
(cry me a river, 25 May 2016 15:41)

In my field I am an expert and I have been paid extremely well over the years for that expertise, but my knowledge of Serbian law is non existent. However, I do have relatives in Serbia that are lawyers and when I heard the news about Albos buying property I asked them.
They told me about the laws on buying land in Serbia from people living in Kosovo. They cannot register that purchase. Kosovo is contested land and there are special rules; Serbs from Kosovo can, but you guys cannot. The problem with Albos is they have abandoned large parts of Albania moved into Macedonia, the EU or Kosovo and now Kosova is not looking too good so they want to move onwards.
Sorry lads but rotting in Kosova is your fate.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

Now you are independent state of Kosova.You can leave a comment in 3-4 days as I do but you are here anyday. Ortodox have the same religion so maybe they want tp write more. You are Catolic so what are you doing in Serbs website? You know that expression in Albanian to stick like the shit on somebody else shoes. This is what you are doing here. Very bad figure in foreign sites. Go comment in Kosova magazines because Kosova is free now and they post your comments and they need you.They need us! Croats are also welcoming you but Albania and Kosova need us the most. I told you that Croats will publish an article and it is not good for us to be the number 1 commenters on Serbs site. It means that we are not free yet in our mind and we can't live without Serbs.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 26 May 2016 15:18)
I have been to both Albania and Kosovo last year and if you are trying to sell this idea of Albo pluralism please don’t it’s a myth in your little head, but if I am wrong please set up a fund for those Albanians living in Kragujevac to rebuild their homes in Kosovo and take them back. Let me know how it goes with the collection.
Personally I don’t give a s*** about the NYT, but it’s the only thing you people believe or so I thought until now. I could not provide Serbian, Russian or Chinese sources since they are not democratic.
War crimes, you mean defending your territory is a war crime well so be it. Ethnic cleansing, you will find that this happened earlier with the Serbs mate so we are even. Genocide? When did that occur? Last time I looked the UNSC never passed resolution on that issue.
Oh I know your talking about those drunks on the ICTY declaring genocide. They don’t matter. It’s the UNSC that decides.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone.
(sj, 26 May 2016 17:42)

Just wanted to note that the CE of B92 forums sj has vetted the New York Times as being a reliable source of information.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Oh dear, B92 has taken to censoring my comments, though there's no incendiary in what I write. lets give it another go:

"Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy." I did not know that the Australian gov. owned every single news outlet in Australia. Yet more conspiracies eh sj?

"Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal ..." hmmm, not sure, if Albanian migrants got away with all of that in 1999, then you really don't have a functioning judiciary at all.

"Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media. " but you said it was never been reported, what do you mean it was not mentioned again? dear oh dear

re Kosovo and economises, we're discussed it to death, I really don't see what more I can add to it that I have not mentioned already

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

They don`t know even how to do internet scams , because they even don`t have normal speed conections in Albania + in many cities

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:45)

The year is 1999 and it was a rescue of Albanians being persecuted by nasty Serbs and what would the locals think of headlines like “Albanians rape one of their own, attempt to rob local bank, Albanians saved by Australia responsible for theft from locals businesses.”
Now Australia was part of this “worldwide” save the Albanians project with our Prime Minister greeting the first arrivals. Now how would those headlines be a good look?. Give it a bit of thought be replying.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 16:58)
The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone. In Bosnia I have seen plenty of covered women with headscarves and Niqabs. In fact parts of Sarajevo look like the middle east. In Albania I saw none in Tirana but there were women in Berat and further inland who wore headscarves.
In Kosovo I saw women wearing the headscarf which was forbidden during communism but they were older women. Now that Saudi money is being pumped into the area it will not take long to see drastic changes.
So the Roma collaborated with the Serbs and they deserved to be driven out of paradise. I doubt that all roma collaborated, but it was an opportunity to kick them out because they are different.
All I ask from Albanian Christians who believe in this Albanianism to take another route when they are forced out that does not include Serbia, Greece or Macedonia and this will happen because Islam tolerates no one.

Blue Angel

pre 7 godina

Clearly there is great deal of misunderstanding about this article Some of the Albanians who made negative comments about this article are militant and aggressive worsteds the Serbs Those Albanians form Kosovo pause No threat to Serbia or to the Serbian people Those Kosovo Albanians Have Accepted Serbian Passports and Serbian Laws They Left Kosovo and Albania to Live and seek Integration with Serbia, For Better Future. If all Kosovo Albanians did the same Kosovo would be peaceful and prosperous Serbian province. No Ethnic Albanian militant would accept such a thing to be Integrated with Serbia or to accept Serbian Passport. Not all Albanians are bad people.

sj

pre 7 godina

OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 12:38)

In Maitland, Hunter Valley, New South Wales, at a former military base, where they placed these “refugees”, several attacks on local women by your bros and one rape within the camp itself? They also attempted rob a local bank and a hairdresser salon in that town?
The people of Maitland were spun a story that they have to be patient as the Albos were “traumatised”.
Then on the outskirts of Hobart Tasmania at another camp, police had to be called out many times to stop attacks within the camp? Or the theft from stores by Albanians in Hobart? No there was never a word mentioned because it would have ruined the story about nasty Serbs. How long do you think Albos would have received sympathy if these stories came out?
Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:36)
=======================
I remember that too. She was a translator.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

I don't know sj but I am serious about what I wrote. You are all in a file waiting for any of the Serbs or Rote to throw you a bone and to reply to you. You don't see yourselves but it hurts me to see you knocking anyday in Serbs' doors. Croats are waiting for your brain I'm telling you. What did you write? Yes, plus Croats didn't kill any Albanian and they love Catolic and Muslim Albanians. If you are Ortodox please don't come and remain here.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@sj
Ps: I had to apologise – I have a prob.with my posting here – so my msg. were not posted all.
Now:
The only one who can make the revolution in Muslim religion are the women. That day when a woman will be one Imam the Muslim religion will change forever. Unfortunately in Middle East those are not to “strong”, or are submitted by the men, or even like to be like that - like to wear hijab - and i'm sorry for that.

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.

sj

pre 7 godina

You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL. Me thinks it you that lack a few grey cells. Why even those numbers that are quoted in the NYT are fake; its all fake to make Albos look bad and sj organised it too LOL.
On the tennis matter it was the Croats that caused that one and they were kicked out. You see the knuckle draggers did not have one player at the Australian open that year, but the Serbs had several including Djokovic and quality always shows.
Please take up Skenderbeu 1444 offer and move to your Albo sites or even with your beloved Croats at least they will tolerate you for a short time LOL.
Still waiting on a reply how Kosova makes it money?

sj

pre 7 godina

I remember that too. She was a translator.
(Peggy, 26 May 2016 22:59)

I don’t recall what she did in the camp, but it was never publicised widely. Had this been a Serb you would not have seen an end to it.
I can tell you that shop owners in Maitland, Kuri Kuri, Cessnock and as far as Singleton all complained about Albanians stealing. I would guess this was all hushed up by the Federal Government and they paid for any losses. Its not a good look to have people you “saved” from the bad Serbs stealing from local shop owners.
My family members talked about the refugees complaining about the quality of meals in these camps; it was not up to their “standard” and demanding mobile phones.
I also recall when the Albanians main and only TV spokesman, who was a lecturer from Monash University, but whose name I don’t recall now, pleading with John Howard to keep the 6000 in Australia, but knowing what the Albanians did while here being saved, there would have been more of a chance travelling to the nearest star in one day than that ever occurring.
I also understand that there are more stories along this line from Tasmani

sj

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 09:22)


Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy.
Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal and we do have a functioning judiciary not that rabble in Pristina who think a law book is something you take to the out house to tear out the pages.
Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media.
Once again where does Kosova make its money? You should know as you’re an economist or are you one of those that studied alchemy in the economics department of Prisitna Univesity? Try to convert lead to gold?

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 09:56)
I know the difference between a scarf and Muslim headgear. Headscarfs are worn by elderly women. Even the Queen of England wears a scarf during winter.
I was in berat for a couple of hours which for me was enough time. I was in Tirana, Duress, Vlore, Korce. And a few other places.

sj

pre 7 godina

concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Now Lord of the Dance don’t be like that. My people were all free settlers not Albanians.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 11:33)

After WW2 all religion was banned in Albania and was declared the first atheist state. The communist created that secular culture that you talk about.
Kosovo is now targeted by Saudi since they have financed 800 new mosques alone. You have more and more people attending them and now they have over 300 fighting for ISIS in Syria and these numbers will increase since unemployment is very high there.
I hope you are right and it does not come to Albania and its people are strong enough to resist it. It’s a terrible disease of the mind when someone promises you houses and cars in heaven if only you kill yourself for God.
I would love to see a woman become an Imam and it would change everything for the better. A few Christian churches would benefit from allowing women to lead services too.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 13:32)

I am not an expert on Albanians and never claimed to be, but I know Islam very well since I have lived in a Muslim country for several years.
As I said before all this Albanians are equal business is from the communist era, but that will come to an end very soon. They have built 800 new mosques in Kosovo alone and with that you get radicalisation and intolerance towards anyone that is not a Muslim. It always happens.
I know of no Muslim nation on this planet that shows great tolerance towards non Muslims. However, if there is great tolerance then why have roma Albanians from Kosovo had to leave and seek refuge in Serbia? I know of one settlement located in Kragujevac and a relative teaches their children at school.
I suppose if you say it long enough it has to be true.

sj

pre 7 godina

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.
(The Count of Kosova, 26 May 2016 14:42)

I don’t give a rats if you believe me or not. You have Serbian friends? You write the way you write about Serbs and you have Serbian friends? What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.

Rocky

pre 7 godina

Pure evil propaganda by radical Serbians & Russians!!!
It's a well known fact that at one time Albanians were the majority in NIS, and many continue to live there today!!! This is more Bull... comung from Serbia & her sponsor Russia!

mark

pre 7 godina

"Albanians, helped by Serbs, silently occupy south Serbia"

The only occupiers in the Balkans are the Serbs and all the other slavic hordes that left the mountains of Iran and Afghanistan.

sj

pre 7 godina

Factually, this article is only partially correct. There is truth in that some Albos from Kosovo are using Serbs as intermediaries and in fact they are even buying land.
The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal. From the Serb’s point of view he does that deal on behalf of an Albo and hands over the paperwork but that is all.
I knew about it from my stay in Serbia last year. The fact is Kosovo is disputed land and anyone from Kosovo cannot just purchase land despite Serbia claiming it.
Its amazing these Albanians are leaving Albania moving into Kosovo and now want to move further north again. And here I thought that they created paradise in Kosova LOL.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Unfortunately, these are consequences of refusing to deal with reality. We refused to accept the loss of Kosovo, so they used their momentum to spread their country further. It might still not be too late. NATO is the only thing that can save us now. We need to be rational here, people!

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.
(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

As a catholic albanian, I agree. You see, Sj is still running that 90ies propaganda carrousell. What can I say, he does not know any better. Serbs still try to paint Kosovo and Albania as islamic threats and try to play the faith card. As a religious fanatic and intolerant socity they do not understand our concept of having something that unites us above religion.

We are one Nation. Where the sword is, is the faith, and the belief of an Albanian is to be an Albanian.

MikeD

pre 7 godina

We can hire masked men to tear down Serb buildings in Savamala but we let this happen?! Who want's to bet that these poor Albanians didn't just stumble upon cash. Probably Saudi money or Albo mafia... I mean government.

albo

pre 7 godina

wave bye bye Serbia ,Serbia will be Belgrade in the next 20 years if that....lol....Kosovo = gone presovo = gone nis will be gone ,vranja gone hehhhhehhehe........vojvodina = gone hehhehehhehhehehhehehhe everything gone but Belgrade....even that will be gone.....you have 0 kids and albos have 10 kids per family......we need the land to put our children on.............you just need old folks homes which we will provide until your population hits zero.....soon Albanians will have all of former Yugoslavia from Macedonia to Croatia all of it.....

Nick

pre 7 godina

This is good news isn't it?
Serbs are also buying property in Kosovo, not maybe in these numbers but my neighbours are Serbian. Lets move on now and be neighbours again..

sj

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53

That is true. Many Serbs who live in villages are marrying women from Albania simply because Serbian women do not want to live in a village.
However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

After the news about Inva Mula I thought Serbian media will be more open minded when it talks about Albanians.
But it looks like I am wrong.
Paranoia against Albanians has deep roots in Serbia.
Today I am reading this rubbish news from Russia, which says that poor Albanians are moving in Nish buying houses and lands.
Make up you mind, either Albanians are poor or not buying lands and houses. You can not be poor and buy real estate...

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

What is wrong with this, its normal for people to want to buy land if they can afford it!

It is a known fact that south Serbia is empty, if North Kosovo was part of Serbia it would empty as well without the money Serbia pours in that region. Humans have moved for years and they want to live well, life in Nis vs Novisad or Beograd is drastically different.

Why is this a problem, I thought Serbs wanted Kosovo back and this time they will treat Albanians better?

I thought Albanians are poor and Kosovo will be empty soon?

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)

Joni

pre 7 godina

Well I know that Russians are good in amusing stories.., and have some good writers to, so I understand their talent.
But, I still wonder how could be possible that there is any notable Serbs writer. Serbs are so good in fairytales, they have an impressive imagination.
After the fairytale that Albanians do to many children, now the poor Albanians in Kosovo are buying in mass lands in Serbia…eee.. Seriously , are there people who believe this? Ok, I think in Serbs are more ignorant than I have imagined.

Maybe – maybe.. for this, the “innocent” Albanian neighbor is just trying to justify the next violence in the regions where Albanians live.

albanian warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

They don`t know even how to do internet scams , because they even don`t have normal speed conections in Albania + in many cities

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread

Gjakova

pre 7 godina

Sasa,

a Montenegrin King said Montenegro Woman can marry any nationality but men Just Montenegro Woman as Montenegrin or any nationality) make only Montenegrian babies. - This is a proverb and not trying to dispute, that they are mix blood its good.

There are Islamist in Kosovo there is no denying but is small small minority, and its something that needs to be controlled fast. However it many Muslim Albanians also are marrying Serbs no big deal, nothing wrong with people buying land.

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

The Albos are better off throwing their money into a fire because these transactions are illegal and they cannot claim the land, house or apartment. They may have an agreement with a local Serb, but the transaction cannot be registered and courts will deem it illegal.
(sj,

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj,

I forgot to add to the list of your expertise. You're also an expert on religious matters in Albania.

Ksaldo

pre 7 godina

However, all the Albanian women are of Christian background not Muslim. In Albania today Christians are not treated well regardless of the claims that an Albanian is an Albanian. The resurgence of Islam has put that to rest regardless of claims to the contrary. Funny thing under the communists that was true, but not today.
(sj, 25 May 2016 13:56) # Comment link


It's funny that you say christians are not treated well in Albania considering that the Albanian Prime Minister is catholic himself...Albanians are Albanians we don't discriminate based on religion like the Serbs do with each other.

Ratko

pre 7 godina

Look at all these paid anti serb trolls here... what a joke. On a daily basis spreading disinformation, propaganda, lies; discrediting truth, supporting lies as truth, writing cynical insulting comments.

Tough times for serbia under nato occupation since 1999..

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

Now you are independent state of Kosova.You can leave a comment in 3-4 days as I do but you are here anyday. Ortodox have the same religion so maybe they want tp write more. You are Catolic so what are you doing in Serbs website? You know that expression in Albanian to stick like the shit on somebody else shoes. This is what you are doing here. Very bad figure in foreign sites. Go comment in Kosova magazines because Kosova is free now and they post your comments and they need you.They need us! Croats are also welcoming you but Albania and Kosova need us the most. I told you that Croats will publish an article and it is not good for us to be the number 1 commenters on Serbs site. It means that we are not free yet in our mind and we can't live without Serbs.

Maserati

pre 7 godina

What money have the Albanians ?

What money ? Who buy ? Albanians maybe from Italy .

Albanians from Albania don`t have money even for buy a decent bread
(adrian_bucharest, 26 May 2016 16:14)

They also compete for bread with the pigeons in St. Mark's Square.

Naim

pre 7 godina

This article is real.. I like the details written: but this is how it is - you can't stop this.

We want our land back and you know what: we will get it back - €uro? Yes that's ok we will buy it if needed..

We are now in a digital age - we run things through dialogue and we work with the law. So Serbia wants me to be Serbian citizen? Yes - ok I will be but can Serbia stop its citizens of buying land in their own country?? NO big NO.. So get the money and off here..

Vranje, Sandzak, Leskovac, prokuplje, Kursumlija, down to Medvedja, Presheva and Bujanovac.

We will get them even if it takes generation. In 50 years will be ours. Wait and see..

Solution for Serbia:
Recognition of our State, special law to stop Albanians of buying property. But I am afraid this will not be possible because of EU standards.

So just give up.

sj

pre 7 godina

Sj, not only are you an expert on finance and global markets but you're also a legal expert. What a powerful brain you have.
(cry me a river, 25 May 2016 15:41)

In my field I am an expert and I have been paid extremely well over the years for that expertise, but my knowledge of Serbian law is non existent. However, I do have relatives in Serbia that are lawyers and when I heard the news about Albos buying property I asked them.
They told me about the laws on buying land in Serbia from people living in Kosovo. They cannot register that purchase. Kosovo is contested land and there are special rules; Serbs from Kosovo can, but you guys cannot. The problem with Albos is they have abandoned large parts of Albania moved into Macedonia, the EU or Kosovo and now Kosova is not looking too good so they want to move onwards.
Sorry lads but rotting in Kosova is your fate.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 16:58)
The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone. In Bosnia I have seen plenty of covered women with headscarves and Niqabs. In fact parts of Sarajevo look like the middle east. In Albania I saw none in Tirana but there were women in Berat and further inland who wore headscarves.
In Kosovo I saw women wearing the headscarf which was forbidden during communism but they were older women. Now that Saudi money is being pumped into the area it will not take long to see drastic changes.
So the Roma collaborated with the Serbs and they deserved to be driven out of paradise. I doubt that all roma collaborated, but it was an opportunity to kick them out because they are different.
All I ask from Albanian Christians who believe in this Albanianism to take another route when they are forced out that does not include Serbia, Greece or Macedonia and this will happen because Islam tolerates no one.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 7 godina

I have already begun my sinister plot to take over Serbia...(cue sinister laugh)MUUUUWWWWWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ok! that's enough for today. Off to the pub. I need a beer.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Ksaldo, 25 May 2016 15:45)

The current political system in Albania is very much a hangover from the days of Communism, but will not last. Turkey was in that position; they were a secular society until recently and now you have Islamic fascists running the country. In Kosovo there were claims of a secular society and today there are 800 new mosques and growing; same in Albania.
During the great “humanitarian exit” from Kosovo in 1999 about 6000 were flown to Australia to “save them from the Serbs” and only a handful were allowed to stay on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers. It turns out they were either of the wrong religion or mixed marriages (not with Serbs, but others ethnic groups). So much for your tolerance. It’s a myth.
As I said before the only people who talk about “Albanians are Albanians” live abroad.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 7 godina

Very good editorial rote, you a true Dear Brother and defender of us innocent Serbian people!!! Us Serbian people, the innocent and weak, the ones who know and understand but can not control! If only every Serbian could be made to understand that our Dear Mother Russia is the epic center of all Slavic Brotherhood in the world! Many mistakes the Serbian people made in the last hundred or so years, now all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans severly damaged! Only God and Russia can save Serbia now, Dear Mother Russia is our God!!!

Dwight

pre 7 godina

First, are you seriously telling us that 100's of Kosovo Albanians are taking their life savings and buying land in Serbia to spread the Albanian race.
These amazing Kosovo Albanians have some hive mind capable of conquering Serbia by stealth.
Did it ever occur that maybe they just want to live in Nis becasue it has better schools for their children, good transport links, available farmland etc, you know, the same reason everyone buys a home

Second, is there a law that says you must be an ethnically pure Serb to buy an apartment in Serbia?

And last of all.....seriously, a nearly 3 year old article from Novosti is plagarised by propoganda site Sputnik and then copied by B92

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/drustvo/aktuelno.290.html:452432-Albanci-kupuju-stanove-po-Nisu

John

pre 7 godina

This is propaganda. As for Nish, it has always been inhabited by Albanians and regularly they have been forced by serbs to migrate elsewhere. Autochthonous flew over Belgrade to transmit the message to all.

internet warrior

pre 7 godina

Serbs from Serbia will sell their own mothers lol for money.....but those Serbs from Bosnia , Croatia and the Montenegrins will fight for their own.....but those Serbs are from Montenegro anyway and not actual Serbs.....so I could respect them ........wave bye bye Serbia......
(albanian warrior,

If they sell their own mothers for money, what do you think they will do to your mother???

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 26 May 2016 13:32)

I am not an expert on Albanians and never claimed to be, but I know Islam very well since I have lived in a Muslim country for several years.
As I said before all this Albanians are equal business is from the communist era, but that will come to an end very soon. They have built 800 new mosques in Kosovo alone and with that you get radicalisation and intolerance towards anyone that is not a Muslim. It always happens.
I know of no Muslim nation on this planet that shows great tolerance towards non Muslims. However, if there is great tolerance then why have roma Albanians from Kosovo had to leave and seek refuge in Serbia? I know of one settlement located in Kragujevac and a relative teaches their children at school.
I suppose if you say it long enough it has to be true.

sj

pre 7 godina

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.
(The Count of Kosova, 26 May 2016 14:42)

I don’t give a rats if you believe me or not. You have Serbian friends? You write the way you write about Serbs and you have Serbian friends? What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 26 May 2016 15:18)
I have been to both Albania and Kosovo last year and if you are trying to sell this idea of Albo pluralism please don’t it’s a myth in your little head, but if I am wrong please set up a fund for those Albanians living in Kragujevac to rebuild their homes in Kosovo and take them back. Let me know how it goes with the collection.
Personally I don’t give a s*** about the NYT, but it’s the only thing you people believe or so I thought until now. I could not provide Serbian, Russian or Chinese sources since they are not democratic.
War crimes, you mean defending your territory is a war crime well so be it. Ethnic cleansing, you will find that this happened earlier with the Serbs mate so we are even. Genocide? When did that occur? Last time I looked the UNSC never passed resolution on that issue.
Oh I know your talking about those drunks on the ICTY declaring genocide. They don’t matter. It’s the UNSC that decides.

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans already

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 25 May 2016 16:20)

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
All of this brotherhood and unity comes from Albos living abroad not in Albania or Kosovo. However, if you want to prove me wrong then please take up a collection to rebuild all those destroyed houses in Kosovo belonging to roma Albanians who were given sanctuary by Serbs and now living in Kragujevac. I can even take you to them. I have been there.
On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
“It is a stunning turnabout for a land of 1.8 million people that not long ago was among the most pro-American Muslim societies in the world. Americans were welcomed as liberators after leading months of NATO bombing in 1999 that spawned an independent Kosovo”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/europe/how-the-saudis-turned-kosovo-into-fertile-ground-for-isis.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

sj

pre 7 godina

OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 12:38)

In Maitland, Hunter Valley, New South Wales, at a former military base, where they placed these “refugees”, several attacks on local women by your bros and one rape within the camp itself? They also attempted rob a local bank and a hairdresser salon in that town?
The people of Maitland were spun a story that they have to be patient as the Albos were “traumatised”.
Then on the outskirts of Hobart Tasmania at another camp, police had to be called out many times to stop attacks within the camp? Or the theft from stores by Albanians in Hobart? No there was never a word mentioned because it would have ruined the story about nasty Serbs. How long do you think Albos would have received sympathy if these stories came out?
Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)

sj

pre 7 godina

You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL. Me thinks it you that lack a few grey cells. Why even those numbers that are quoted in the NYT are fake; its all fake to make Albos look bad and sj organised it too LOL.
On the tennis matter it was the Croats that caused that one and they were kicked out. You see the knuckle draggers did not have one player at the Australian open that year, but the Serbs had several including Djokovic and quality always shows.
Please take up Skenderbeu 1444 offer and move to your Albo sites or even with your beloved Croats at least they will tolerate you for a short time LOL.
Still waiting on a reply how Kosova makes it money?

sj

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?
(Nikolle, 27 May 2016 09:22)


Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy.
Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal and we do have a functioning judiciary not that rabble in Pristina who think a law book is something you take to the out house to tear out the pages.
Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media.
Once again where does Kosova make its money? You should know as you’re an economist or are you one of those that studied alchemy in the economics department of Prisitna Univesity? Try to convert lead to gold?

sj

pre 7 godina

concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Now Lord of the Dance don’t be like that. My people were all free settlers not Albanians.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Many Serbs in this region also marry Albanian wives from northern Albania as there are no brides in this region, this kids will be speaking Albanian have Albanian blood - This is nothing new we did this many many years ago we used to treat each other much better.

I call this Sex diplomacy :)
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 12:53)

You are right about something and wrong about others.Yes,Serbs farmer's are marry Catholic brides from North Albanian.
But the Children have Serbian surnames and have mix Serb-Albanian Blood!!. Which is good,bringing people together go live in harmony.I know 2 marriages in that position,that live peacefully in farming near Jagodina.
But,Albanian's buying up land near NIS city is happening,but not with fundamental Muslim's,but normal Albanian's looking for better life.
P's Alot of Albanian's live throughout Serbia peacefully.

Anon

pre 7 godina

I once conducted a thesis on this particular subject 6 years ago and predicted that this would eventually happen. Economically it is the best option for albanians to move to serbia however the reasons are different than this article here presents. This article presents these albanians as working together and having sinister motives when that is not the case. The demand for land is relatively high for that region (kosovo) in the world due to factors of population, small land available and some others. Kosovo is smaller in size than Montenegro and has a much bigger population, 3X times bigger and that is further increased by kosovo albanian disporsa which can increase the population of kosovo from 1.8 million to 4 million and thats not an exergeration as kosovo itself has said its population reaches 4 million in the summers due to as they call it "tourisim" although it is in actual fact kosovo albanians returning for the summer, mind you there are small number of tourists that come maybe 10000 max. As i interviewed some of these albanians about this, there was a general census that in order to have any involvement in serbia that they always needed a serb escort to protect them from attacks etc. for example if they needed to go to belgrade to seek healthcare they needed a serbian with them to tell other serbs that they dont want trouble and that they are friends etc.

am running out of charecters, to be continued.

rote

pre 7 godina

Everything would be OK if not the conflict between the two peoples. Serbs must either do something about it or start sucking. It’s a matter of survival and there must be a monolith people if you want somebody to respect you. With 13% in the Skupsina and zero in the government you deserved it. Should you lean on Russia things would run different. Look back what you were doing last two decades! You betrayed everybody who fought for Serbia – just everybody! See how they proudly died in Hague ! Tito’s Middle of the Road became a disease of the Serbs. You cannot enter the same river twice and you have only one ass to sit on two chairs. And you cannot whistle and drink at the time. In fact these 11 000 are a Serbian problem. See when the shit hit the propeller – after the Americans won the elections. Just count the slaps you received since then. Wasn’t it clear that they are going to repeat the KIM trick? Buying realty is different from buying cigarettes. It’s a long deal with many people involved. Then why nobody cried alarm when Shqiptars settled in one single province close to Kosovo where your people are kept as hostages? Please anybody explain to me why should I respect or help you? Today my daughter asked me to hire her an English teacher. I refused saying that I will hire him only after I see that she is striving to learn it for at least a month. I said I will help you but I won’t do the job for you. Serbs need the Shqips because without them you would be gayropeans aleady.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Famous Albanian priest and writer Ndre Mjeda said that cursed will be that son of an Albanian who doesn’t write in his mothers language! I don’t have much time because I have three little stores to run. Why don’t you write in Albanian magazines? Do you know that BIRN and Radio Free Europe will publish an article soon with statistics on who writes more in the neighbors site? Do you know that Croats are saying that the first will be placed Albanians on Serbs sites with more than 350 comments in a month? Why don’t you write in Albanian and Croatian sites? What is wrong with you? Do you have shame or what to write in Albanian magazines? I check Tema 0 comments, check Respublica 0 comment and find B92 article
http://www.respublica.al/2016/05/25/agjencia-e-lajmeve-e-kremlinit-shqiptar%C3%ABt-po-pushtojn%C3%AB-serbin%C3%AB-jugore
I check Telegrafi, Panorama, Ekspres, Blic, Koha Ditore, 0 comments. What is happening? O moj Shqypni e mjera Shqypni, kush t’ka qit me krye n’hi!! O poor Albania who made your head put in the ash? Ti ke pas kene nji zonje e rande, burrat e dheut te thojshin nane! Serbs not allow Albanian books to go to Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:45)

The year is 1999 and it was a rescue of Albanians being persecuted by nasty Serbs and what would the locals think of headlines like “Albanians rape one of their own, attempt to rob local bank, Albanians saved by Australia responsible for theft from locals businesses.”
Now Australia was part of this “worldwide” save the Albanians project with our Prime Minister greeting the first arrivals. Now how would those headlines be a good look?. Give it a bit of thought be replying.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Nikolle

I don't know sj but I am serious about what I wrote. You are all in a file waiting for any of the Serbs or Rote to throw you a bone and to reply to you. You don't see yourselves but it hurts me to see you knocking anyday in Serbs' doors. Croats are waiting for your brain I'm telling you. What did you write? Yes, plus Croats didn't kill any Albanian and they love Catolic and Muslim Albanians. If you are Ortodox please don't come and remain here.

sj

pre 7 godina

I remember that too. She was a translator.
(Peggy, 26 May 2016 22:59)

I don’t recall what she did in the camp, but it was never publicised widely. Had this been a Serb you would not have seen an end to it.
I can tell you that shop owners in Maitland, Kuri Kuri, Cessnock and as far as Singleton all complained about Albanians stealing. I would guess this was all hushed up by the Federal Government and they paid for any losses. Its not a good look to have people you “saved” from the bad Serbs stealing from local shop owners.
My family members talked about the refugees complaining about the quality of meals in these camps; it was not up to their “standard” and demanding mobile phones.
I also recall when the Albanians main and only TV spokesman, who was a lecturer from Monash University, but whose name I don’t recall now, pleading with John Howard to keep the 6000 in Australia, but knowing what the Albanians did while here being saved, there would have been more of a chance travelling to the nearest star in one day than that ever occurring.
I also understand that there are more stories along this line from Tasmani

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 09:56)
I know the difference between a scarf and Muslim headgear. Headscarfs are worn by elderly women. Even the Queen of England wears a scarf during winter.
I was in berat for a couple of hours which for me was enough time. I was in Tirana, Duress, Vlore, Korce. And a few other places.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.

icj1

pre 7 godina

"For example: an Albanian gives a Serb money to buy a property in their own name, making another contract in court according to which the Albanian is lending the Serb precisely that amount of money, while the property is taken as collateral," the article said, adding that the Serb then "fails to repay the debt in time, allowing the Albanian to become the owner of the property, without leaving any trace of the transaction.""

What a nonsense!!! Not a surprise though since it's coming from a source like sputnik...

When the Serb fails to repay the debt in time, the Albanian (as the creditor) becomes the owner of the collateral (the property) and that fact is recorded into the cadastre so, of course, the transaction leaves a trace; more than one trace actually.

The only thing that sputnik failed to add to this nonsense story is that this amounts to genocide and ethnic cleansing against the heavenly Serbs :)

agRONio

pre 7 godina

I knew this story going to come one time but not now. From Nis Vranje Novi Pazar Tutin Toplica Prokuplja the were albanian majority but Serbs for land grabin ethnically cleansed after world war 1, there are 4-5 million Albanians leaving in Turkey one day all going to return in their places. I find this totally natural project and going to happen (I don't belive at all RT )

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

Serbs need to see Albanians as equals till that day we will always have problems, marriage is a good step in right direction.
(Gjakova, 25 May 2016 14:48)

I agree,that citizens should have equal rights,in any country in the world,as long it is reasonable,and not religious fundamental ,or criminal.
P's Sorry about your Switz boxer from Gjakova,Arnold Gjergjanj lossing last Saturday night.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

@sasa - very valid point.
P.S. Sorry about your Krstic's loss to Nuri Seferi. Apparently, the tattoo of Ratko Mladic on his chest failed to intimidate his opponent.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj
I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom?
You like to create those!
If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civils in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

Yugoslavian Loyal

pre 7 godina

Let's bury this hate once and for all. Hate is baggage. Lets not be slaves to history. It is our time. Your true brothers and sisters are people of your time not your ancestors from 200 years ago. Share culture, laugh drink and enjoy :)

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

I have no idea of how many Mosques are being built in Kosovo, Albanian or even Bosnia. All I know is there never were religious problems in Balkan and still are not. I can't tread the religious freedom to nobody - how could you? And in name of whom? Oh, i forgot Serbs have their personal god!

If you have been in Kosovo and Albania, I have one simple question : how many “covered” women you have seen?
But, by the way I think that we have our own culture – and the religion culture don’t play any role in our life. That Islam have problems - I agree!
And I think the UAE is pushing to much in Ballkan countries, before the integration of the countries in EU, so EU should see very well it because it is hard to resist to the money, and Balkan nations are poor.
Regarding to the roma, many of them collaborated with Serbs in extermination of Albanian civilians in Kosovo, as I know – but usually they like move on, no?

And what I say is what I live, so, that is my truth – what you say, is what you suppose it is, as much as we are talking to Albania, no?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@sj
Ps: I had to apologise – I have a prob.with my posting here – so my msg. were not posted all.
Now:
The only one who can make the revolution in Muslim religion are the women. That day when a woman will be one Imam the Muslim religion will change forever. Unfortunately in Middle East those are not to “strong”, or are submitted by the men, or even like to be like that - like to wear hijab - and i'm sorry for that.

Blue Angel

pre 7 godina

Clearly there is great deal of misunderstanding about this article Some of the Albanians who made negative comments about this article are militant and aggressive worsteds the Serbs Those Albanians form Kosovo pause No threat to Serbia or to the Serbian people Those Kosovo Albanians Have Accepted Serbian Passports and Serbian Laws They Left Kosovo and Albania to Live and seek Integration with Serbia, For Better Future. If all Kosovo Albanians did the same Kosovo would be peaceful and prosperous Serbian province. No Ethnic Albanian militant would accept such a thing to be Integrated with Serbia or to accept Serbian Passport. Not all Albanians are bad people.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Joni, 27 May 2016 11:33)

After WW2 all religion was banned in Albania and was declared the first atheist state. The communist created that secular culture that you talk about.
Kosovo is now targeted by Saudi since they have financed 800 new mosques alone. You have more and more people attending them and now they have over 300 fighting for ISIS in Syria and these numbers will increase since unemployment is very high there.
I hope you are right and it does not come to Albania and its people are strong enough to resist it. It’s a terrible disease of the mind when someone promises you houses and cars in heaven if only you kill yourself for God.
I would love to see a woman become an Imam and it would change everything for the better. A few Christian churches would benefit from allowing women to lead services too.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I do love the great effort of Albos trying to show how they are one nation. I agree under Communism, which suppressed all religion, you were taught that all Albos were the same, but not today. That facade is cracking.
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

You will never understand the concept of pluralism and our way of living. Its like trying to explain the concept of flying a plane to a monkey.

B==============================================================b

On the issue of fanaticism please take your case up with the New York Times, they were the ones who published this. Psst they are your allies. Cheers boys things could be worse LOL.
New York Times:
(sj, 26 May 2016 10:17)

NYT also regularely reported on Serb warcimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide. We can take NYT as upholder of truth if you want. I dont have a problem with that. We will have to take reponsebility for the rising extremism. How are you going to take responsibility for warcrimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide?

sj

pre 7 godina

Nikolle, 26 May 2016 15:01)

It would have been only people talking but the Federal Government had to hold community meetings over some of these things that “did not happen”. To calm things down to explain to the locals that this is only traumatised people and they should be tolerant. As I said I have relatives that live in and around Maitland and they attended one of those meetings.
The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The New York Times have said that 800 new Mosques were built in Kosovo alone.
(sj, 26 May 2016 17:42)

Just wanted to note that the CE of B92 forums sj has vetted the New York Times as being a reliable source of information.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@sj
You're implying a massive conspiracy at play, as you usualy do. Tell me, wwas anyone ever charged for rape, robbery and assault? Are those things legal in Australia?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Now, you never told to me that you were in Berat, remember I have asked to you? You told to me that you have visit some other cities in Albania not Berat, but by the way..

Regarding to the women with handkerchief you have seen in Albania, you have seen them just in villages – and that kind of handkerchief, has nothing to do with the religion but with tradition.

In north villages the elderly women use a nice handkerchief part of northern folk, while in South villages some women use one white handkerchief when they go to work, while the elderly women one black handkerchief.( This kind of handkerchief you will find even in some Greek villages and has nothing to do with religion ).
There are a very few Albanian women which use the hijab, because the hijab is to to rare in Albanian women – those which wear it are Turkish or some Iranian which live in Albania.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Wooww. Nicolle, I'm sure he is an expert on Albanian nation. You know, he live in Albania or Kosovo so he know very well, how it work..
Well, let me tell something sj, nobody in Albania and Kosovo care what religion you have – important is to be Albanian.
I’m sure you know that I’m an Orthodox – well I date one hot Muslim Albanian (from Kosovo origin).
So, if you like to just convince yourself with the rubbish you write , go on and onnn..onnn….

You cannot convince me, because i live in Albania.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What a load of BS. I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ"

I don't doubt this for a second, it seems to be a habit of Australian Serbs to also fight with Australian Croats when watching tennis games. There's me thinking the heavenly people were tolerant! although, it may just be an Australian thing.

cry me a river

pre 7 godina

I live in Australia’s and I have yet to meet a Serb that has an Albo over for a BBQ. Stop bullshitting.
Lord of the Dance time to stop playing with it.
(sj

That says a lot about you and your Serbian friends. What's the difference between you and your Serbian friends and Islamic zealots, other then your religion? Turks definitely left a mark on your psyche and it shows.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Federal Government had to hold community meetings..."...and not a single news outlet, local or national saw fit to write on these meetings ? When was a story about migrants raping women not become newsworthy? but no no, your relatives attended these meetings so its definitely not rubbish. sunshine, there are people in Kosovo who have married non-Albanians and non-Muslims and they have not been threatened, attacked, killed or ostracised. you wish that they had been, but that is your issue.

Peggy

pre 7 godina

The woman was raped in the camp and she was Albanian not Australian.
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:20)
(sj, 26 May 2016 15:36)
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I remember that too. She was a translator.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

@Skenderbeu
You're fast catching up with sj in writing the stupidest things, could be a reflection of your personality
(Nikolle, 26 May 2016 22:08)

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

I concur, Skend is edging out rote for second place. However, sj has a comfortable lead for now. It is difficult to displace sj since he has criminal roots going back to early 18th century Australia. sj claims his mother's ancestors were some of the first inmates of Australia's penal colony.
(The Count of Kosova, 27 May 2016 06:58)

Dude you forgot Dragoljub or what was his name again? That guy who keeps calling for Serbia to return to "Mother Russia" and Arn. Sweden. Arn. doesnt write much but when he does, its completely mental.

Both are contenders for place 3 because they have been around for longer than Skend.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Naturally everyone is stupid except those who fall under the new world order of Albanianism where all Albos love one another LOL"

absolutely not, you write stupid things because you make them up as you go along. am i to believe that in a country like Australia, rape, assault and robbery go unreported?

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ sj

All I have to tell to you is: First Albania and Kosovo aren't Muslim countries are secular countries. Second: In Kosovo the religion was never banned –so why Albanian men don’t “cover” their girls- women? Simple, because is in our culture–we REFUSE that any religion can “touch” our Albanian Identity, culture or traditions. Furthermore, the Albanian women are in strong position, we fight for having the same rights as man have, so what you tell will never..never happened in Albania, believe me. It never happened in those 25 years of transition it will never happened. Furthermore the Saudi are pushing to much in Bosnia not in Albania – Kosovo.
Regarding to the Saudi – they are a little like US in M.East, they make the rules and the others follow... Saudi and Jordania are Syria neighbors – while Jordania accepted a lot of Syrians, the Saudi closed their borders and they refused to help them – so that tell to much to me.
All I have to tell is that the revolution of Muslim Religion have begun. Look the BasHar Al Assad woman, or Rania of Jordania, look Azerbaijan..etc..etc..

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Oh dear, B92 has taken to censoring my comments, though there's no incendiary in what I write. lets give it another go:

"Naturally it’s a conspiracy. You would never have a government suppressing information in a democracy." I did not know that the Australian gov. owned every single news outlet in Australia. Yet more conspiracies eh sj?

"Australia is not Kosova so rape robbery and assault are illegal ..." hmmm, not sure, if Albanian migrants got away with all of that in 1999, then you really don't have a functioning judiciary at all.

"Don’t know what happened to the rapist. It was not mentioned again in the media. " but you said it was never been reported, what do you mean it was not mentioned again? dear oh dear

re Kosovo and economises, we're discussed it to death, I really don't see what more I can add to it that I have not mentioned already

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"...on the grounds they were at risk of being killed by their Albo brothers"
OK, I have not read of this particular case, have you any article that corroborate any of this, as I know plenty of Albanians who have married people of difference religions and ethnicity and they've never been threatened for it

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Nothing was ever mentioned in the press, but we know about it. My mother’s family have owned land in the Hunter Valley since the early 1800s and people talk.
(sj, 26 May 2016 13:39)

But of course, another one of sj's many "inside" stories. He the Paul Harvey of Australia. What a crock ! Even on b92 you are being laughed at by my many Serb friends.
btw, In the early 1800's there were only criminals and outcasts in Australia.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

...so the source of your story is nothing other than people talk? rape, assault and attempted robbery not reported in any newspaper so as to support a narrative of nasty Serbs and good Albos? dear oh dear.