NATO and Montenegro sign protocol on accession

Congrats to Montenegro. Next Kosovo

Suck it Russia. No Adriatic ports for you.

@ Tony, Kosovo is not a country. it's an impoverished, illegal entity that's currently ruled by former terrorists, organ traffickers, murderers and gangsters. it has no future.

This is a good news for our good friend and neighbor.

You will always have our strongest support..
Serbisation of MNE has died once and do all.

Serbisation of MNE has died once and do all.

##

The statement above is not based in reality.

I am often surprised at the level of ignorance I read on this site

Read the below and tell me if you still believe the claptrap ypu write:

44% of Montenegrin's consider themselves Serbian and not Montenegrin.

Montenegro has no hospital system of its own, but uses Serbia's hospital system

Montenegro's kids attend Serbian Universities, since Montenegro has no universities.

Montenegrin's speak the Serbian language since there is no recognized Montenegrin language on this earth

Montenegrin's are baptized, go to Sunday School, get married, and are buried in Serbian Orthodox churches.

Montenegrin youth immigrate to Belgrade for opportunity and marry Serbian spouses.

Montenegro's greatest poet and historical figure said Montenegrins are Serbs.

Montenegro is Serbia and Serbia is Montenegro.

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro
(Serbian American, 19 May 2016 18:59)

Seems you are the Sell out calling your self American! They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

If your name was Serbian Russian then ok!

@ rote

I think Montenegrins choose NATO, not because they don’t like Russians or fear Russians, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t trust Serbs. Look the last ‘troubles” in MNE caused by Serbs supporters, can you see over that? Try to see over that, with the eye of one Montenegrin!
Serbs are to sticky, and if tomorrow Serbs claim some right over Montenegro they know very well that Russia will choose to stand in Serbian side. And this is one big mistake of your foreign policies, because you have shown to the Balkan nations, that your government will support Serbs even in their madness. And Montenegrins which are a young nation and with to many historic problems with Serbs ( Serbs, if you have notice here, claim that they are Serbs – ignoring what Montenegrins think about themselves ) – so they are just trying to protect themselves. Serbs are doing too much pressure on Montenegro and you are supporting them, and pressure them to. Wrong move - in my opinion!

LK : Suck it Russia. No Adriatic ports for you.


Sucker if we come we'll take all the Adriatic you know. And besides the game is not over yet so if a brick falls on Milo things may run different.

@ Tony, Kosovo is not a country. it's an impoverished, illegal entity that's currently ruled by former terrorists, organ traffickers, murderers and gangsters. it has no future.
(So sad, too bad, 19 May 2016 21:46)

hahaha i don't know how to feel about people that are out of touch with reality. Go visit Kosovo and see that kosovo is a country soon to have an army. Your dreams are crushed. Serbia is a illegal entity that currently hold hostage other ethnicities, vojvodina, sanxhak, presheva valley.

(factman, 20 May 2016 04:55)

"44% of Montenegrin's consider themselves Serbian and not Montenegrin."
29% according to the 2011 Census

"Montenegro has no hospital system of its own, but uses Serbia's hospital system "
wut? As a small country it definitely uses more specialised facilities is neighbouring countries, but so do many countries including Serbia who send patients abroad for treatment

"Montenegro's kids attend Serbian Universities, since Montenegro has no universities."
http://www.ucg.ac.me/


"Montenegrin's speak the Serbian language since there is no recognized Montenegrin language on this earth "
There is a recognised Montenegrin language, even though it is just a minor version of Serbo-Croatian
Serbs in Montengro do speak Serbian which is a standardised/major version of Serbo-Croatian


"Montenegrin's are baptized, go to Sunday School, get married, and are buried in Serbian Orthodox churches."
You first mostly correct statement, 66% of Montenegrins are orthodox. mostly Serb-Orthodox church

"Montenegrin youth immigrate to Belgrade for opportunity and marry Serbian spouses."
Do you have a source for this, from what I have read, most go to USA and Germany?

Could be interesting to know how France decide to change opinion...
Until some months ago from Paris it was a clear niet.. than something happen..
What ?

Ignore Joni. This individual is just a sad racist loner and troll who likes to wind people up,namely Serbians and revise history. Sadly Joni's as persistent as a fly around a horse's backside so unfortunately we have to suffer the incessant baseless whining.Occasional we write in just to remind Joni that he is fantasizing and this acts like a proverbial swish of the horse's tail. That way he knows that those he condemns are there and that he's failed to convince anyone.

milanCetnik : pola kamiona

Don't be panic! We have to retreat to the mountains but we'll be back with the 300 000 000.

Congrats to u Serbo-Montenegrins.... You made the right decision that your fellow Serbs in Serbia don't have the guts to do.

1. Show the census. Who paid for it? Did it deliberately obfuscate the obvious? Why did a prior census 9 years show 41%? I can ask a census question and show that pigs can fly if I ask a certain way

2. You blur the lines. Having no hospital system is not the same as sending people out for specialized treatment in Belgrade. Its hospitals are Serb.

3. University. Nice link. Are you able to read what it says? It appears to not be universally accredited

4. Language. Everything you say is wrong. Serbo-croat is a language. Montengrin is a dialect. Politicians want an official language but they cant make that determination. It is desired because it reinforces a weak sense of common nationality. Ditto Bosnia

5. Religion. I am “mostly” correct? Am I not predominantly correct? They are “mostly” Serb Orthodox? Are they not predominantly Serb orthod? Your prejudices weaken your statements and show your true objective

6. Montenegrins in Belgrade? intermarriage. Source? Yeah. Get out more often and go to Belgrade or the USA. Who are they intermarrying Germans? Americans? They marry one another (just like most all people of the same nationality do). You are far too academic. There are some things that only academics will believe

PS: Here is another symbol of identity. Serbs & Monts have the same customs. The most impt is Patron Saint. In Europe only Serbs do this. Why then do Monts do it? Why is there a Patron St icon in every Mont home? Clearly, it is their identity

pola kamiona

Ciao Agnese!
Agnese are there any Albanian websites where you can chat with Montenegrins, Croats, guys from the Philippines and Dagestan on the last move of the Montenegrin government and Montenegro's accession to Nato? You can also talk on what are Albanians solders doing in Afganistan, for example cooking very good dishes for their colleagues, singing nice pop songs, this kind of things. No? There aren't any? Why don't you open one Agnese? I see you have a degree in political science and you've gathered a lot of experience with men online...Only Serbs, Serbs, Russians, Serbs's balls, change men once in while. They don't want to know you and your feelings, you'd better listen to the Italian! They don't want to have nothing to do with you. Neither do I actually so why don't you do us the favor to just try to go somewhere else for at least a couple of weeks so people can feel some fresh air here finally!

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro
(Serbian American, 19 May 2016 18:59)

Seems you are the Sell out calling your self American! They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

If your name was Serbian Russian then ok!
(Gjakova, 19 May 2016 23:58) # Comment link

LOL!!!!! #1 it's djakovica.... #2 it wasn't my choice being born in America... #3 Go back to Albania.... #4 the people of Montenegro did not vote to join NATO... because if they actually held a vote it would be a different story. You know they also were bombed by the same organization that has accepted them. #5 Go comment on an Albanian website and quit trolling and reading Serbian news websites.. Oh I'm sorry Albania wasn't a country until the 1900's before then you were servants of the Turks and have no history because you came with the Turks during the ottoman invasion of Europe. And don't even think that you derive from Illyrians because your DNA doesn't prove it!!!!!!

let's let them fly

Gjakova : They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

then why they are not allowed to vote for NATO?


Joni : I think Montenegrins choose NATO, not because they don’t like Russians or fear Russians, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t trust Serbs.

We both know the truth so let’s talk about weather. But remember we will not leave you neither Serbia not it Montenegrin province nor Kosovo nor Kraina nor RS. It depends on how fast Ukraine will collapse and how soon Serbia will obtain a Serbian government. An old Soviet song that runs :

Чужой земли мы не хотим ни пяди,
Но и своей вершка не отдадим!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGGVe3xR2JM

Montenegrins overwhelmingly do not want NATO, which is why they were not asked in a referendum. To state other wise is total BS.

The only advantage of being in NATO is that it makes it much harder for the Albanians (their criminal masters and politicians to be more precise) to start another war for Greater, sorry, 'Natural' Albania. What's the point of NATO if its members fight each other?

NATO is fat and bloated. Most of it's members won't or can't pony up the minimum cash to be in the club and its own commitment (article 5) ties it up in it own knots. It's a retro club for old farts and desperate wannabies.

@ Shergar
In fact you seem too convinced on what I have wrote.. I just give one simple opinion based in my point of view, so I think you instead of ignore it should try to see if is there something true. And I personally think there is.
Is not me here who tell that they don’t have their identity, their language, their religion, they don’t have universities, they are nothing without Serbs…etc..etc…
Do you understand that all those things in common should had been the tie between you and them, and instead those divide you. And you know why?
Because you think that you are better than them. You talk all the day and tell that they are your brothers while you act like you were their “tutors”, like you had some right on them. Even worst, you pretend those rights – but you forget that MNE is a sovereign country. Well some think don’t pass ” unnoticed” - Serbs always act like this, you don't learn from the mistakes made in the past.
I have just a question? Why Montenegrins broke up with Serbia? Nobody forced them! Seriously, you are to obsessed on forcing them to accept you like their protector, leader or call it like you like to.. – but you forget that you are not the only one in the region who speak that language. Maybe they are just trying to be neutral – I mean they have good relationship with Croats and Bosnians, while you have not.

Montenegrins overwhelmingly do not want NATO, which is why they were not asked in a referendum. To state other wise is total BS.
(EU Dude, 21 May 2016 14:03)

Well, Montenegrins did not elect a certain "EU Dude" to speak on their behalf which is why what you wrote is BS because those whom the Montenegrins did elect to act of their behalf do want NATO.

@ ijc1 why do you call yourself with this nickname? Is it a random mix of letters and one number? Maybe your first name is Ismail and you are ashamed because Serbs are Ortodox and you are muslim? Let me know if you want to write in Croats websites and I'll give you the links. The admins themselves of two Croats newspapers told me to invite Albanian friends to their websites so don't be ashamed. If you are Catolic is much better but Muslim is ok and I am Muslim too. Their president is a woman and she made a prayer like a Muslim with a scarf on her head.

Serbian American: «you came with the Turks during the ottoman invasion»

What you talk about is reflected in common history as Reconquista of the bad Spanish Ferdinand-2. In fact the re-conquest had happened decades earlier and wasn’t concerned the Apennines but all of Europe. Serbs/Russians and other Slavs made at least 80% of the “Turkish” army.

In 1415 the 45 year civil war inside the Empire called in Europe as the Ottoman Empire in fact the Great Tartaria/Horde came to an end. During that war the European colonies of the Horde lost discipline and sent less money and goods to the Horde. So it was decided to bring them to order (Horde) again. The invasion started from the Balkans. Serbs and other local peoples were part of the Balkan army headed by the Russian Cheleby Sultans known here as Tverskie Princes.

By the mid 15 century they seized half of Europe. But in 1453 after the fall of Constantinople western Europe Mehmet-2 Fatih (= the Conqueror) and his Slavic-Turkic army drank vine and vodka for 3 days. Then he sent the trophy to Veliki Novgorod and kept on putting Europe on it knees. Turkic people from Russia also were part of his army but they were a minority. Shqiptars too could quite be part of that army. The invasion stopped in the END OF LAND in Santiago de Compostela, Spain.

You can trace our army's move with St. James’ Piligrim Map of 1648. It is also described in the Bible, Issus Navin = New Jesus.

http://chronologia.org/xpon6/x6_05_0104.html

Congrats to Montenegro. Next Kosovo

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro

Suck it Russia. No Adriatic ports for you.

@ Tony, Kosovo is not a country. it's an impoverished, illegal entity that's currently ruled by former terrorists, organ traffickers, murderers and gangsters. it has no future.

@ Tony, Kosovo is not a country. it's an impoverished, illegal entity that's currently ruled by former terrorists, organ traffickers, murderers and gangsters. it has no future.
(So sad, too bad, 19 May 2016 21:46)

hahaha i don't know how to feel about people that are out of touch with reality. Go visit Kosovo and see that kosovo is a country soon to have an army. Your dreams are crushed. Serbia is a illegal entity that currently hold hostage other ethnicities, vojvodina, sanxhak, presheva valley.

This is a good news for our good friend and neighbor.

You will always have our strongest support..
Serbisation of MNE has died once and do all.

@ rote

I think Montenegrins choose NATO, not because they don’t like Russians or fear Russians, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t trust Serbs. Look the last ‘troubles” in MNE caused by Serbs supporters, can you see over that? Try to see over that, with the eye of one Montenegrin!
Serbs are to sticky, and if tomorrow Serbs claim some right over Montenegro they know very well that Russia will choose to stand in Serbian side. And this is one big mistake of your foreign policies, because you have shown to the Balkan nations, that your government will support Serbs even in their madness. And Montenegrins which are a young nation and with to many historic problems with Serbs ( Serbs, if you have notice here, claim that they are Serbs – ignoring what Montenegrins think about themselves ) – so they are just trying to protect themselves. Serbs are doing too much pressure on Montenegro and you are supporting them, and pressure them to. Wrong move - in my opinion!

milanCetnik : pola kamiona

Don't be panic! We have to retreat to the mountains but we'll be back with the 300 000 000.

LK : Suck it Russia. No Adriatic ports for you.


Sucker if we come we'll take all the Adriatic you know. And besides the game is not over yet so if a brick falls on Milo things may run different.

Serbisation of MNE has died once and do all.

##

The statement above is not based in reality.

I am often surprised at the level of ignorance I read on this site

Read the below and tell me if you still believe the claptrap ypu write:

44% of Montenegrin's consider themselves Serbian and not Montenegrin.

Montenegro has no hospital system of its own, but uses Serbia's hospital system

Montenegro's kids attend Serbian Universities, since Montenegro has no universities.

Montenegrin's speak the Serbian language since there is no recognized Montenegrin language on this earth

Montenegrin's are baptized, go to Sunday School, get married, and are buried in Serbian Orthodox churches.

Montenegrin youth immigrate to Belgrade for opportunity and marry Serbian spouses.

Montenegro's greatest poet and historical figure said Montenegrins are Serbs.

Montenegro is Serbia and Serbia is Montenegro.

pola kamiona

Ignore Joni. This individual is just a sad racist loner and troll who likes to wind people up,namely Serbians and revise history. Sadly Joni's as persistent as a fly around a horse's backside so unfortunately we have to suffer the incessant baseless whining.Occasional we write in just to remind Joni that he is fantasizing and this acts like a proverbial swish of the horse's tail. That way he knows that those he condemns are there and that he's failed to convince anyone.

Congrats to u Serbo-Montenegrins.... You made the right decision that your fellow Serbs in Serbia don't have the guts to do.

@ ijc1 why do you call yourself with this nickname? Is it a random mix of letters and one number? Maybe your first name is Ismail and you are ashamed because Serbs are Ortodox and you are muslim? Let me know if you want to write in Croats websites and I'll give you the links. The admins themselves of two Croats newspapers told me to invite Albanian friends to their websites so don't be ashamed. If you are Catolic is much better but Muslim is ok and I am Muslim too. Their president is a woman and she made a prayer like a Muslim with a scarf on her head.

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro
(Serbian American, 19 May 2016 18:59)

Seems you are the Sell out calling your self American! They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

If your name was Serbian Russian then ok!

let's let them fly

(factman, 20 May 2016 04:55)

"44% of Montenegrin's consider themselves Serbian and not Montenegrin."
29% according to the 2011 Census

"Montenegro has no hospital system of its own, but uses Serbia's hospital system "
wut? As a small country it definitely uses more specialised facilities is neighbouring countries, but so do many countries including Serbia who send patients abroad for treatment

"Montenegro's kids attend Serbian Universities, since Montenegro has no universities."
http://www.ucg.ac.me/


"Montenegrin's speak the Serbian language since there is no recognized Montenegrin language on this earth "
There is a recognised Montenegrin language, even though it is just a minor version of Serbo-Croatian
Serbs in Montengro do speak Serbian which is a standardised/major version of Serbo-Croatian


"Montenegrin's are baptized, go to Sunday School, get married, and are buried in Serbian Orthodox churches."
You first mostly correct statement, 66% of Montenegrins are orthodox. mostly Serb-Orthodox church

"Montenegrin youth immigrate to Belgrade for opportunity and marry Serbian spouses."
Do you have a source for this, from what I have read, most go to USA and Germany?

@ Shergar
In fact you seem too convinced on what I have wrote.. I just give one simple opinion based in my point of view, so I think you instead of ignore it should try to see if is there something true. And I personally think there is.
Is not me here who tell that they don’t have their identity, their language, their religion, they don’t have universities, they are nothing without Serbs…etc..etc…
Do you understand that all those things in common should had been the tie between you and them, and instead those divide you. And you know why?
Because you think that you are better than them. You talk all the day and tell that they are your brothers while you act like you were their “tutors”, like you had some right on them. Even worst, you pretend those rights – but you forget that MNE is a sovereign country. Well some think don’t pass ” unnoticed” - Serbs always act like this, you don't learn from the mistakes made in the past.
I have just a question? Why Montenegrins broke up with Serbia? Nobody forced them! Seriously, you are to obsessed on forcing them to accept you like their protector, leader or call it like you like to.. – but you forget that you are not the only one in the region who speak that language. Maybe they are just trying to be neutral – I mean they have good relationship with Croats and Bosnians, while you have not.

Sellouts, Sellouts, Sellouts!!! And a shame by the corrupt bought out government of Montenegro
(Serbian American, 19 May 2016 18:59)

Seems you are the Sell out calling your self American! They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

If your name was Serbian Russian then ok!
(Gjakova, 19 May 2016 23:58) # Comment link

LOL!!!!! #1 it's djakovica.... #2 it wasn't my choice being born in America... #3 Go back to Albania.... #4 the people of Montenegro did not vote to join NATO... because if they actually held a vote it would be a different story. You know they also were bombed by the same organization that has accepted them. #5 Go comment on an Albanian website and quit trolling and reading Serbian news websites.. Oh I'm sorry Albania wasn't a country until the 1900's before then you were servants of the Turks and have no history because you came with the Turks during the ottoman invasion of Europe. And don't even think that you derive from Illyrians because your DNA doesn't prove it!!!!!!

Montenegrins overwhelmingly do not want NATO, which is why they were not asked in a referendum. To state other wise is total BS.

The only advantage of being in NATO is that it makes it much harder for the Albanians (their criminal masters and politicians to be more precise) to start another war for Greater, sorry, 'Natural' Albania. What's the point of NATO if its members fight each other?

NATO is fat and bloated. Most of it's members won't or can't pony up the minimum cash to be in the club and its own commitment (article 5) ties it up in it own knots. It's a retro club for old farts and desperate wannabies.

Could be interesting to know how France decide to change opinion...
Until some months ago from Paris it was a clear niet.. than something happen..
What ?

Gjakova : They dont want Russia so they are sell outs, they want west like you but they are Sell outs.

then why they are not allowed to vote for NATO?


Joni : I think Montenegrins choose NATO, not because they don’t like Russians or fear Russians, but I’m pretty sure that they don’t trust Serbs.

We both know the truth so let’s talk about weather. But remember we will not leave you neither Serbia not it Montenegrin province nor Kosovo nor Kraina nor RS. It depends on how fast Ukraine will collapse and how soon Serbia will obtain a Serbian government. An old Soviet song that runs :

Чужой земли мы не хотим ни пяди,
Но и своей вершка не отдадим!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGGVe3xR2JM

Montenegrins overwhelmingly do not want NATO, which is why they were not asked in a referendum. To state other wise is total BS.
(EU Dude, 21 May 2016 14:03)

Well, Montenegrins did not elect a certain "EU Dude" to speak on their behalf which is why what you wrote is BS because those whom the Montenegrins did elect to act of their behalf do want NATO.

Ciao Agnese!
Agnese are there any Albanian websites where you can chat with Montenegrins, Croats, guys from the Philippines and Dagestan on the last move of the Montenegrin government and Montenegro's accession to Nato? You can also talk on what are Albanians solders doing in Afganistan, for example cooking very good dishes for their colleagues, singing nice pop songs, this kind of things. No? There aren't any? Why don't you open one Agnese? I see you have a degree in political science and you've gathered a lot of experience with men online...Only Serbs, Serbs, Russians, Serbs's balls, change men once in while. They don't want to know you and your feelings, you'd better listen to the Italian! They don't want to have nothing to do with you. Neither do I actually so why don't you do us the favor to just try to go somewhere else for at least a couple of weeks so people can feel some fresh air here finally!

1. Show the census. Who paid for it? Did it deliberately obfuscate the obvious? Why did a prior census 9 years show 41%? I can ask a census question and show that pigs can fly if I ask a certain way

2. You blur the lines. Having no hospital system is not the same as sending people out for specialized treatment in Belgrade. Its hospitals are Serb.

3. University. Nice link. Are you able to read what it says? It appears to not be universally accredited

4. Language. Everything you say is wrong. Serbo-croat is a language. Montengrin is a dialect. Politicians want an official language but they cant make that determination. It is desired because it reinforces a weak sense of common nationality. Ditto Bosnia

5. Religion. I am “mostly” correct? Am I not predominantly correct? They are “mostly” Serb Orthodox? Are they not predominantly Serb orthod? Your prejudices weaken your statements and show your true objective

6. Montenegrins in Belgrade? intermarriage. Source? Yeah. Get out more often and go to Belgrade or the USA. Who are they intermarrying Germans? Americans? They marry one another (just like most all people of the same nationality do). You are far too academic. There are some things that only academics will believe

PS: Here is another symbol of identity. Serbs & Monts have the same customs. The most impt is Patron Saint. In Europe only Serbs do this. Why then do Monts do it? Why is there a Patron St icon in every Mont home? Clearly, it is their identity

Serbian American: «you came with the Turks during the ottoman invasion»

What you talk about is reflected in common history as Reconquista of the bad Spanish Ferdinand-2. In fact the re-conquest had happened decades earlier and wasn’t concerned the Apennines but all of Europe. Serbs/Russians and other Slavs made at least 80% of the “Turkish” army.

In 1415 the 45 year civil war inside the Empire called in Europe as the Ottoman Empire in fact the Great Tartaria/Horde came to an end. During that war the European colonies of the Horde lost discipline and sent less money and goods to the Horde. So it was decided to bring them to order (Horde) again. The invasion started from the Balkans. Serbs and other local peoples were part of the Balkan army headed by the Russian Cheleby Sultans known here as Tverskie Princes.

By the mid 15 century they seized half of Europe. But in 1453 after the fall of Constantinople western Europe Mehmet-2 Fatih (= the Conqueror) and his Slavic-Turkic army drank vine and vodka for 3 days. Then he sent the trophy to Veliki Novgorod and kept on putting Europe on it knees. Turkic people from Russia also were part of his army but they were a minority. Shqiptars too could quite be part of that army. The invasion stopped in the END OF LAND in Santiago de Compostela, Spain.

You can trace our army's move with St. James’ Piligrim Map of 1648. It is also described in the Bible, Issus Navin = New Jesus.

http://chronologia.org/xpon6/x6_05_0104.html