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Friday, 13.05.2016.

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Russia forced to consider its reaction to "NATO threats"

Russia is forced to consider its reaction to the threat represented by NATO's missile system in Romania, President Vladimir Putin has said.

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Azir

pre 7 godina

U.S.A. is number one and if it wasn't for America you unappreciative pigs would be starving....

Look at your co defendents the poor Greeks.....

Begging and complaining welfare checks (Bail-outs)are not arriving fast enough...

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 17 May 2016 11:21)
It is impossible to discuss these things with you. You don't read anything that anyone replies to you, you simply imagine what you want them to say and reply to that.


SJ: "USA is weak it cant do anything. LOL. China is great".
Commenter: "but last week you said USA organised Maidan and created ISIS"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL. China is great"
Commenter: "Here is all the proof that shows China's economy has a lot of prolems"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL".

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 17 May 2016 10:51)

I have no idea what you mean. Are you telling me that Russia bombs haphazardly while the US takes it time and is precise? Only in fairy tales.
Do you recall that infamous tape released by WikiLeaks where a helicopter targeted “suspects” in a Baghdad street and gunned down 11 innocent people? Anyone prosecuted for that one yet? How man went to prison for Abu Grahib? Yeah, a Sargent and corporal LOL.
China does not have slaves mate. Those people earn more money in factories making IPhones than working in rural areas and they are more than happy to work there People working in factories in China don’t work 2 or 3 jobs to survive while people on minimum wages in the US do just that.
However, maybe Walmart is better where they pay slave wages at $ 7.80 per hour.
People like you should go to China and see for yourself and not rely on BS from western media.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings.
(sj, 17 May 2016 00:39)

You know well that is not what I meant but maybe you can tell the slaves in China making iPhones about how wonderful it is that their government has lots of gold.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 16:48)
Frist of all it was not Amnesty or another HR group that disclosed what was going on in Abu Grahib. The way it came out was not via US media outlets either and all knew torture was happening there; it was via US service/women sending pictures home from Iraq to family members/friends. In fact it was small town newspapers that broke that silence not HR groups or papers like the New York Times.
So you believe that the US takes greater care when bombing? Next you will believe that Washington can turn lead into gold. Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings. You might try and explain the bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan run by Doctors without Borders last October and there are many more like that too.
I don’t dispute the Chinese data being incorrect on the economic front, but the Beijing government has 4.5 trillion in reserves, more than enough gold to cover all paper money that is printed and billions if not trillions in assets all over the world.
The US is broke.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group
(sj, 16 May 2016 15:52)

Are you for real, Amnesty were the one of the leaders in exposing what happened???????
Here is Amnesty talking about it 4 months before it got proper exposure


23 July 2003 Amnesty
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/continuing-failure-uphold-human-rights

Nov 1 2003 Associated Press Article
http://legacy.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/world/iraq/20031101-0936-iraq-thecamps.html


"Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?"
No, but I would say that US takes greater care of the civilian population that Russia. If it had been Russia who bombed Belgrade instead of NATO there would have been 5000 dead civilians instead of 500.


What figures does China “fix”?
http://qz.com/454160/chinas-official-gdp-charade-is-in-and-surprise-its-7/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2015-12/14/content_22705255.htm
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07BEIJING1760_a.html
GDP figures are "man-made" and therefore unreliable, Li said ( this is a direct quote from the man who is now the prime minister)

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 13:24)

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group. They knew many months before it burst into the world media but said nothing.
However, Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?
I only used that AEI articles because people like you believe only if the west publishes it. According to you I have to believe in everything AEI publishes – give me a break!!!
The Russians have spent a very small amount on defence and yet they have managed to upgrade their weaponry and by 2020 all their forces will have modern weapons. They already have 5th generation fighters. The Chinese are the same. The US is about years behind.
US Congress was told that in Afghanistan 70% of all funds were squandered while in Iraq it was 45%. In total that was roughly 7 or 8 trillion.
Both China and Russia have very little debt. The US has $20 trillion.
What figures does China “fix”?
Ps What Russia does is called spin.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)


USA has already come to agreement with Russia and Iran. Maybe not on Ukraine but in the Middle East it has.
In case you have not noticed, USA is allowing Russia to run things in Syria. It has basically told Syrian rebels to take part in useless Geneva talks or else it will stand back while RUssia/Assad/Iran massacre everyone
USA has signed a deal with Iran and is stopping sanctions while Iran is paying the wages of people like the recently deceased Samir Kuntar who murdered a 4yr old girl by smashing her skull in with his rifle-butt.
Good ol' Samir, people like him get guns and salary from Iran, air support from Russia and USA looks the other way. If they were fighting ISIS I wouldn't mind but they are not.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 16 May 2016 11:52)
Over the last two years RUssian media & MOD has been bashing amnesty any time it reports on Russian war crimes in Syria.
They say have said that it is biased, anti-russian, not-researched and that you cannot trust anything it says.
Last week amnesty released a report on the possible use of Chemical weapons by Syrian rebels and now Russian media is quoting amnesty even though last week it said that it publishes lies!!!

THis is exactly what you do, either AEI and Thomas Donnelly are reliable or they are not. YOu cannot complain about NGOs and Think Thanks and then start using them as references when it suits you.

F35 program is junk yes and people know it, Im not sure what you point is, you expect the goverment to admit it wastes money? Name one government that does often.
I agree that US cannot spend without consequence but neither can Russia, China etc
You often talk about the true US employment data compared to the published figures, you don't seem to realise that China "fixes" its figures even more that US does.

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)

This would never happen as foreign policy is not something that changes course.

Iran - will never be ok as Israel does not want it so.

Russia - is a sworn enemy and most population have this embedded in their brain.

CHina - its true competitor and they will trip each other along the way.

USA want's to have control over EU and will poke Russia in eye, and do as it pleases as NATO allows them too. Many EU countries Poland, Lithuania, Rumania .....hate hate Russia and with good reason as it was not fun living under their boot 1945 to 1989.

Russia should put same if it has at their own allies and move on. In fights like this small countries chose and live with it and so far Russia has not provided economic incentive to want to be with her hence only Belurussia and Kazakstan joining her union.

In my opinion Serbis should never join regardless some people call for it as it is not in geographical position to do so, they are in NATO sphere and EU is the best path but I only have opinion as it not my country.

rote

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

I wasn't because I meant to harm someone but because I hoped that on a Serbian site words "еще не вечер" are well understood. Anyway the English for it is "it's not an evening yet". Russians have one more saying with the same sense "цыплят по осени считают" = chikens are to be counted in autumn time. So don't worry for the Russian respond as it's a cold dish.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 10:42)

I don’t doubt for one moment that the DoD contributes to these Institutes. Human Rights Watch is solely funded by the CIA.
It’s true that disinformation is definitely a possibility, but some of the things coming out of various US Institutes actually indicate what is published by AEI is correct. European sources also point in that direction.
Now sometimes articles are written to stir the government to spend more, but that is the nature of the game.

However, if you think that the US can spend without any consequences then that is your right to do so, but always remember Newton’s 3rd Law of Physics – it applies to everything in life, even finance.
If you’re waiting for US Government to write something negative then don’t hold your breath. Look at the F35 program. They have pilots trained to talk it up and yet even retied senior US military personnel are calling it flying junk. It’s been grounded again because of engine problems.
Wait and see if the US sends thousands of troops to Syria. If they do then the article is BS, but if not then there is some truth in it.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. [link]/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)
How do you know that the American Enterprise Institute is not funded by the defense industry and therefore spreading disinformation to make people think that the US Army is in a bad state, so that the corporations can petition for more contracts.
When Thomas Donnelly publishes an article tomorrow pushing for America to bomb Assad , will you be telling us what a great idea, or do you just quote him when you agree with him?

sj

pre 7 godina

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 14 May 2016 15:56)
Who is speaking please? Identify yourself. Is it our resent AI, icj or icj1 2, 4 or 5?
The incoherent babbling, talking to itself, muttering sounds makes it difficult to understand. Is sj telling the AI to do something? or is the AI just hearing PS CE = Chief Economist? Or perhaps many voices are speaking to the AI???

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

Being that I 'm not contaminated with the Slav language......

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

Vlad mustn't provoke Obama to go out there and get sever Bitch-Slapped....
And.. no ....Kung Fo will not help YOU.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 20:45)

Huh? You got too much time on your hands. Get a job.

icj1

pre 7 godina

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Dr. Who

pre 7 godina

adrian_bucharest

Romania once again a puppet state as it always has been, too weak and too small to stand alone. Romania is that good that we here in the UK are up to our necks in Romanian economic refugees. Who are you trying to kid adrian?

Azir and count of kosovo

You two must be related as you are both flaky. lay off eating the clown cornflakes in the morning.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

You simply can't be a global terrorist for more than a decade and expect to keep getting away with it. Down with the last empire on Earth.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Bye the way that "Turkish " pilot that easily shot down the Russian jet was an ethnic Albanian that was illegally deported from Indigenous homelands in Yugoslavia.

Karma ha ha ha..

Russia did what????

PS Russia rushed into Prishtina,Kosova after Serb defeat and soon after put their tail between their legs and ran crying home 😜

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia and Russia are the gravest threat to global peace and harmony.

The West will inevitably put them in their designated place!

Reduced to begging for AIDS and hopeless.

Greece is a country that is big on AIDS and also close to Serbs.

Maybe they can bail each other out....

Ha ha ha Viva America-Albanian Alliance fighting slav evil.

Speedy Gonzales

pre 7 godina

Vlad is cranky and in need of a nappy change.
(The Count of Kosova, 13 May 2016 17:44)

If he is cranky, he probably got his crank from one of your Kosovo politicians. Could also be directly from Thaci.

The Sultan of Spanking

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

I can't argue that. Mr. Erdogan revealed that fact when he shot their plain out of the sky.
Now that was a slap in the face if I ever saw one. LOL

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Usa our friend , they help us and make us stronger

i see the average salary in march in Serbia was 372 euro and in Romania 457 euro ( with other developements from this year including raises of minimum from 1 may and double of public it go at over 550 at end of year ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

LONG LIFE TO OUR FRIEND USA

Thank You Usa for everything we owe you everything

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.
(Bilabo, 13 May 2016 16:49)

I agree with you,that money should be put into the infrastructure, especially medical.But,what I laugh is the reply that Romania,and Poland need protection from Iran and North Korea,by USA/NATO,to justify for the shield!. I worry,that Putin has not put pressure for war yet,and the time will come,when money doesn't speak,and pride does,and then what,the end of civilisation.Not good sign coming out at the moment.Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.

sj

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. http://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 15:53)

Greece is not good location to protect mainland Europe, Japan there will be as well which will make Russia feel threatened even more.

I would urge you to rephrase do American politicians want peace, some do some dont. As part of NATo this is obligation of each country to secure the rest this is step in that direction, is it a slap in Russian face sure but things have changed from 1989 this is not any longer a Russian sphere of influence.

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

It's funny,how the threat from Iran,or North Korea,provides a shield defence missile in Romania,right next door to Russia.Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

It's funny,how the threat from Iran,or North Korea,provides a shield defence missile in Romania,right next door to Russia.Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

You simply can't be a global terrorist for more than a decade and expect to keep getting away with it. Down with the last empire on Earth.

Dr. Who

pre 7 godina

adrian_bucharest

Romania once again a puppet state as it always has been, too weak and too small to stand alone. Romania is that good that we here in the UK are up to our necks in Romanian economic refugees. Who are you trying to kid adrian?

Azir and count of kosovo

You two must be related as you are both flaky. lay off eating the clown cornflakes in the morning.

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 15:53)

Greece is not good location to protect mainland Europe, Japan there will be as well which will make Russia feel threatened even more.

I would urge you to rephrase do American politicians want peace, some do some dont. As part of NATo this is obligation of each country to secure the rest this is step in that direction, is it a slap in Russian face sure but things have changed from 1989 this is not any longer a Russian sphere of influence.

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Usa our friend , they help us and make us stronger

i see the average salary in march in Serbia was 372 euro and in Romania 457 euro ( with other developements from this year including raises of minimum from 1 may and double of public it go at over 550 at end of year ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

LONG LIFE TO OUR FRIEND USA

Thank You Usa for everything we owe you everything

Speedy Gonzales

pre 7 godina

Vlad is cranky and in need of a nappy change.
(The Count of Kosova, 13 May 2016 17:44)

If he is cranky, he probably got his crank from one of your Kosovo politicians. Could also be directly from Thaci.

The Sultan of Spanking

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

I can't argue that. Mr. Erdogan revealed that fact when he shot their plain out of the sky.
Now that was a slap in the face if I ever saw one. LOL

sj

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. http://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

Vlad mustn't provoke Obama to go out there and get sever Bitch-Slapped....
And.. no ....Kung Fo will not help YOU.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 20:45)

Huh? You got too much time on your hands. Get a job.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.
(Bilabo, 13 May 2016 16:49)

I agree with you,that money should be put into the infrastructure, especially medical.But,what I laugh is the reply that Romania,and Poland need protection from Iran and North Korea,by USA/NATO,to justify for the shield!. I worry,that Putin has not put pressure for war yet,and the time will come,when money doesn't speak,and pride does,and then what,the end of civilisation.Not good sign coming out at the moment.Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Bye the way that "Turkish " pilot that easily shot down the Russian jet was an ethnic Albanian that was illegally deported from Indigenous homelands in Yugoslavia.

Karma ha ha ha..

Russia did what????

PS Russia rushed into Prishtina,Kosova after Serb defeat and soon after put their tail between their legs and ran crying home 😜

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia and Russia are the gravest threat to global peace and harmony.

The West will inevitably put them in their designated place!

Reduced to begging for AIDS and hopeless.

Greece is a country that is big on AIDS and also close to Serbs.

Maybe they can bail each other out....

Ha ha ha Viva America-Albanian Alliance fighting slav evil.

icj1

pre 7 godina

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

Being that I 'm not contaminated with the Slav language......

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 17 May 2016 11:21)
It is impossible to discuss these things with you. You don't read anything that anyone replies to you, you simply imagine what you want them to say and reply to that.


SJ: "USA is weak it cant do anything. LOL. China is great".
Commenter: "but last week you said USA organised Maidan and created ISIS"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL. China is great"
Commenter: "Here is all the proof that shows China's economy has a lot of prolems"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL".

rote

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

I wasn't because I meant to harm someone but because I hoped that on a Serbian site words "еще не вечер" are well understood. Anyway the English for it is "it's not an evening yet". Russians have one more saying with the same sense "цыплят по осени считают" = chikens are to be counted in autumn time. So don't worry for the Russian respond as it's a cold dish.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 16 May 2016 11:52)
Over the last two years RUssian media & MOD has been bashing amnesty any time it reports on Russian war crimes in Syria.
They say have said that it is biased, anti-russian, not-researched and that you cannot trust anything it says.
Last week amnesty released a report on the possible use of Chemical weapons by Syrian rebels and now Russian media is quoting amnesty even though last week it said that it publishes lies!!!

THis is exactly what you do, either AEI and Thomas Donnelly are reliable or they are not. YOu cannot complain about NGOs and Think Thanks and then start using them as references when it suits you.

F35 program is junk yes and people know it, Im not sure what you point is, you expect the goverment to admit it wastes money? Name one government that does often.
I agree that US cannot spend without consequence but neither can Russia, China etc
You often talk about the true US employment data compared to the published figures, you don't seem to realise that China "fixes" its figures even more that US does.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group
(sj, 16 May 2016 15:52)

Are you for real, Amnesty were the one of the leaders in exposing what happened???????
Here is Amnesty talking about it 4 months before it got proper exposure


23 July 2003 Amnesty
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/continuing-failure-uphold-human-rights

Nov 1 2003 Associated Press Article
http://legacy.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/world/iraq/20031101-0936-iraq-thecamps.html


"Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?"
No, but I would say that US takes greater care of the civilian population that Russia. If it had been Russia who bombed Belgrade instead of NATO there would have been 5000 dead civilians instead of 500.


What figures does China “fix”?
http://qz.com/454160/chinas-official-gdp-charade-is-in-and-surprise-its-7/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2015-12/14/content_22705255.htm
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07BEIJING1760_a.html
GDP figures are "man-made" and therefore unreliable, Li said ( this is a direct quote from the man who is now the prime minister)

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings.
(sj, 17 May 2016 00:39)

You know well that is not what I meant but maybe you can tell the slaves in China making iPhones about how wonderful it is that their government has lots of gold.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. [link]/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)
How do you know that the American Enterprise Institute is not funded by the defense industry and therefore spreading disinformation to make people think that the US Army is in a bad state, so that the corporations can petition for more contracts.
When Thomas Donnelly publishes an article tomorrow pushing for America to bomb Assad , will you be telling us what a great idea, or do you just quote him when you agree with him?

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 10:42)

I don’t doubt for one moment that the DoD contributes to these Institutes. Human Rights Watch is solely funded by the CIA.
It’s true that disinformation is definitely a possibility, but some of the things coming out of various US Institutes actually indicate what is published by AEI is correct. European sources also point in that direction.
Now sometimes articles are written to stir the government to spend more, but that is the nature of the game.

However, if you think that the US can spend without any consequences then that is your right to do so, but always remember Newton’s 3rd Law of Physics – it applies to everything in life, even finance.
If you’re waiting for US Government to write something negative then don’t hold your breath. Look at the F35 program. They have pilots trained to talk it up and yet even retied senior US military personnel are calling it flying junk. It’s been grounded again because of engine problems.
Wait and see if the US sends thousands of troops to Syria. If they do then the article is BS, but if not then there is some truth in it.

sj

pre 7 godina

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 14 May 2016 15:56)
Who is speaking please? Identify yourself. Is it our resent AI, icj or icj1 2, 4 or 5?
The incoherent babbling, talking to itself, muttering sounds makes it difficult to understand. Is sj telling the AI to do something? or is the AI just hearing PS CE = Chief Economist? Or perhaps many voices are speaking to the AI???

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)


USA has already come to agreement with Russia and Iran. Maybe not on Ukraine but in the Middle East it has.
In case you have not noticed, USA is allowing Russia to run things in Syria. It has basically told Syrian rebels to take part in useless Geneva talks or else it will stand back while RUssia/Assad/Iran massacre everyone
USA has signed a deal with Iran and is stopping sanctions while Iran is paying the wages of people like the recently deceased Samir Kuntar who murdered a 4yr old girl by smashing her skull in with his rifle-butt.
Good ol' Samir, people like him get guns and salary from Iran, air support from Russia and USA looks the other way. If they were fighting ISIS I wouldn't mind but they are not.

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)

This would never happen as foreign policy is not something that changes course.

Iran - will never be ok as Israel does not want it so.

Russia - is a sworn enemy and most population have this embedded in their brain.

CHina - its true competitor and they will trip each other along the way.

USA want's to have control over EU and will poke Russia in eye, and do as it pleases as NATO allows them too. Many EU countries Poland, Lithuania, Rumania .....hate hate Russia and with good reason as it was not fun living under their boot 1945 to 1989.

Russia should put same if it has at their own allies and move on. In fights like this small countries chose and live with it and so far Russia has not provided economic incentive to want to be with her hence only Belurussia and Kazakstan joining her union.

In my opinion Serbis should never join regardless some people call for it as it is not in geographical position to do so, they are in NATO sphere and EU is the best path but I only have opinion as it not my country.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 13:24)

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group. They knew many months before it burst into the world media but said nothing.
However, Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?
I only used that AEI articles because people like you believe only if the west publishes it. According to you I have to believe in everything AEI publishes – give me a break!!!
The Russians have spent a very small amount on defence and yet they have managed to upgrade their weaponry and by 2020 all their forces will have modern weapons. They already have 5th generation fighters. The Chinese are the same. The US is about years behind.
US Congress was told that in Afghanistan 70% of all funds were squandered while in Iraq it was 45%. In total that was roughly 7 or 8 trillion.
Both China and Russia have very little debt. The US has $20 trillion.
What figures does China “fix”?
Ps What Russia does is called spin.

Azir

pre 7 godina

U.S.A. is number one and if it wasn't for America you unappreciative pigs would be starving....

Look at your co defendents the poor Greeks.....

Begging and complaining welfare checks (Bail-outs)are not arriving fast enough...

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 16:48)
Frist of all it was not Amnesty or another HR group that disclosed what was going on in Abu Grahib. The way it came out was not via US media outlets either and all knew torture was happening there; it was via US service/women sending pictures home from Iraq to family members/friends. In fact it was small town newspapers that broke that silence not HR groups or papers like the New York Times.
So you believe that the US takes greater care when bombing? Next you will believe that Washington can turn lead into gold. Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings. You might try and explain the bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan run by Doctors without Borders last October and there are many more like that too.
I don’t dispute the Chinese data being incorrect on the economic front, but the Beijing government has 4.5 trillion in reserves, more than enough gold to cover all paper money that is printed and billions if not trillions in assets all over the world.
The US is broke.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 17 May 2016 10:51)

I have no idea what you mean. Are you telling me that Russia bombs haphazardly while the US takes it time and is precise? Only in fairy tales.
Do you recall that infamous tape released by WikiLeaks where a helicopter targeted “suspects” in a Baghdad street and gunned down 11 innocent people? Anyone prosecuted for that one yet? How man went to prison for Abu Grahib? Yeah, a Sargent and corporal LOL.
China does not have slaves mate. Those people earn more money in factories making IPhones than working in rural areas and they are more than happy to work there People working in factories in China don’t work 2 or 3 jobs to survive while people on minimum wages in the US do just that.
However, maybe Walmart is better where they pay slave wages at $ 7.80 per hour.
People like you should go to China and see for yourself and not rely on BS from western media.

sj

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. http://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

It's funny,how the threat from Iran,or North Korea,provides a shield defence missile in Romania,right next door to Russia.Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.

adrian_bucharest

pre 7 godina

Usa our friend , they help us and make us stronger

i see the average salary in march in Serbia was 372 euro and in Romania 457 euro ( with other developements from this year including raises of minimum from 1 may and double of public it go at over 550 at end of year ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

LONG LIFE TO OUR FRIEND USA

Thank You Usa for everything we owe you everything

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia and Russia are the gravest threat to global peace and harmony.

The West will inevitably put them in their designated place!

Reduced to begging for AIDS and hopeless.

Greece is a country that is big on AIDS and also close to Serbs.

Maybe they can bail each other out....

Ha ha ha Viva America-Albanian Alliance fighting slav evil.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Bye the way that "Turkish " pilot that easily shot down the Russian jet was an ethnic Albanian that was illegally deported from Indigenous homelands in Yugoslavia.

Karma ha ha ha..

Russia did what????

PS Russia rushed into Prishtina,Kosova after Serb defeat and soon after put their tail between their legs and ran crying home 😜

The Sultan of Spanking

pre 7 godina

Russia can do NOTHING.

Powerless and defeated they are.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 16:33)

I can't argue that. Mr. Erdogan revealed that fact when he shot their plain out of the sky.
Now that was a slap in the face if I ever saw one. LOL

Dr. Who

pre 7 godina

adrian_bucharest

Romania once again a puppet state as it always has been, too weak and too small to stand alone. Romania is that good that we here in the UK are up to our necks in Romanian economic refugees. Who are you trying to kid adrian?

Azir and count of kosovo

You two must be related as you are both flaky. lay off eating the clown cornflakes in the morning.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.
(Bilabo, 13 May 2016 16:49)

I agree with you,that money should be put into the infrastructure, especially medical.But,what I laugh is the reply that Romania,and Poland need protection from Iran and North Korea,by USA/NATO,to justify for the shield!. I worry,that Putin has not put pressure for war yet,and the time will come,when money doesn't speak,and pride does,and then what,the end of civilisation.Not good sign coming out at the moment.Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.

Speedy Gonzales

pre 7 godina

Vlad is cranky and in need of a nappy change.
(The Count of Kosova, 13 May 2016 17:44)

If he is cranky, he probably got his crank from one of your Kosovo politicians. Could also be directly from Thaci.

Gerhard

pre 7 godina

Vlad mustn't provoke Obama to go out there and get sever Bitch-Slapped....
And.. no ....Kung Fo will not help YOU.
(Azir, 13 May 2016 20:45)

Huh? You got too much time on your hands. Get a job.

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Why not build in Greece (Iran) and Japan(North Korea),instead Romania,Poland,and later on in Ukraine!.
P's Do the Americans every tell the truth and want peace!.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 15:53)

Greece is not good location to protect mainland Europe, Japan there will be as well which will make Russia feel threatened even more.

I would urge you to rephrase do American politicians want peace, some do some dont. As part of NATo this is obligation of each country to secure the rest this is step in that direction, is it a slap in Russian face sure but things have changed from 1989 this is not any longer a Russian sphere of influence.

Wish we put this type of effort and money to cure cancer and many other diseases we would live longer and happier.

rote

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

I wasn't because I meant to harm someone but because I hoped that on a Serbian site words "еще не вечер" are well understood. Anyway the English for it is "it's not an evening yet". Russians have one more saying with the same sense "цыплят по осени считают" = chikens are to be counted in autumn time. So don't worry for the Russian respond as it's a cold dish.

Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

You simply can't be a global terrorist for more than a decade and expect to keep getting away with it. Down with the last empire on Earth.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Rote please dont be a coward like hour fellow leader and either reply in English or Albanian...

Being that I 'm not contaminated with the Slav language......

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 13:24)

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group. They knew many months before it burst into the world media but said nothing.
However, Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?
I only used that AEI articles because people like you believe only if the west publishes it. According to you I have to believe in everything AEI publishes – give me a break!!!
The Russians have spent a very small amount on defence and yet they have managed to upgrade their weaponry and by 2020 all their forces will have modern weapons. They already have 5th generation fighters. The Chinese are the same. The US is about years behind.
US Congress was told that in Afghanistan 70% of all funds were squandered while in Iraq it was 45%. In total that was roughly 7 or 8 trillion.
Both China and Russia have very little debt. The US has $20 trillion.
What figures does China “fix”?
Ps What Russia does is called spin.

icj1

pre 7 godina

https://www.aei.org/publication/the-readiness-vortex/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 16:48)
Frist of all it was not Amnesty or another HR group that disclosed what was going on in Abu Grahib. The way it came out was not via US media outlets either and all knew torture was happening there; it was via US service/women sending pictures home from Iraq to family members/friends. In fact it was small town newspapers that broke that silence not HR groups or papers like the New York Times.
So you believe that the US takes greater care when bombing? Next you will believe that Washington can turn lead into gold. Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings. You might try and explain the bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan run by Doctors without Borders last October and there are many more like that too.
I don’t dispute the Chinese data being incorrect on the economic front, but the Beijing government has 4.5 trillion in reserves, more than enough gold to cover all paper money that is printed and billions if not trillions in assets all over the world.
The US is broke.

sj

pre 7 godina

So, the American Enterprise Institute has been vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj as a reliable source of information and analysis. That is great! There were so many things I wanted to use them as a reference for, but I was not sure how reliable they were... until today!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 14 May 2016 15:56)
Who is speaking please? Identify yourself. Is it our resent AI, icj or icj1 2, 4 or 5?
The incoherent babbling, talking to itself, muttering sounds makes it difficult to understand. Is sj telling the AI to do something? or is the AI just hearing PS CE = Chief Economist? Or perhaps many voices are speaking to the AI???

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 16 May 2016 10:42)

I don’t doubt for one moment that the DoD contributes to these Institutes. Human Rights Watch is solely funded by the CIA.
It’s true that disinformation is definitely a possibility, but some of the things coming out of various US Institutes actually indicate what is published by AEI is correct. European sources also point in that direction.
Now sometimes articles are written to stir the government to spend more, but that is the nature of the game.

However, if you think that the US can spend without any consequences then that is your right to do so, but always remember Newton’s 3rd Law of Physics – it applies to everything in life, even finance.
If you’re waiting for US Government to write something negative then don’t hold your breath. Look at the F35 program. They have pilots trained to talk it up and yet even retied senior US military personnel are calling it flying junk. It’s been grounded again because of engine problems.
Wait and see if the US sends thousands of troops to Syria. If they do then the article is BS, but if not then there is some truth in it.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Dwight, 17 May 2016 10:51)

I have no idea what you mean. Are you telling me that Russia bombs haphazardly while the US takes it time and is precise? Only in fairy tales.
Do you recall that infamous tape released by WikiLeaks where a helicopter targeted “suspects” in a Baghdad street and gunned down 11 innocent people? Anyone prosecuted for that one yet? How man went to prison for Abu Grahib? Yeah, a Sargent and corporal LOL.
China does not have slaves mate. Those people earn more money in factories making IPhones than working in rural areas and they are more than happy to work there People working in factories in China don’t work 2 or 3 jobs to survive while people on minimum wages in the US do just that.
However, maybe Walmart is better where they pay slave wages at $ 7.80 per hour.
People like you should go to China and see for yourself and not rely on BS from western media.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

The US is the backbone of NATO. Read it and weep LOL. [link]/
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:35)
How do you know that the American Enterprise Institute is not funded by the defense industry and therefore spreading disinformation to make people think that the US Army is in a bad state, so that the corporations can petition for more contracts.
When Thomas Donnelly publishes an article tomorrow pushing for America to bomb Assad , will you be telling us what a great idea, or do you just quote him when you agree with him?

Bilabo

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)

This would never happen as foreign policy is not something that changes course.

Iran - will never be ok as Israel does not want it so.

Russia - is a sworn enemy and most population have this embedded in their brain.

CHina - its true competitor and they will trip each other along the way.

USA want's to have control over EU and will poke Russia in eye, and do as it pleases as NATO allows them too. Many EU countries Poland, Lithuania, Rumania .....hate hate Russia and with good reason as it was not fun living under their boot 1945 to 1989.

Russia should put same if it has at their own allies and move on. In fights like this small countries chose and live with it and so far Russia has not provided economic incentive to want to be with her hence only Belurussia and Kazakstan joining her union.

In my opinion Serbis should never join regardless some people call for it as it is not in geographical position to do so, they are in NATO sphere and EU is the best path but I only have opinion as it not my country.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Hopefully, who ever win the election in USA, will come to some agreement with Russia , China,and Iran.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 13 May 2016 18:16)


USA has already come to agreement with Russia and Iran. Maybe not on Ukraine but in the Middle East it has.
In case you have not noticed, USA is allowing Russia to run things in Syria. It has basically told Syrian rebels to take part in useless Geneva talks or else it will stand back while RUssia/Assad/Iran massacre everyone
USA has signed a deal with Iran and is stopping sanctions while Iran is paying the wages of people like the recently deceased Samir Kuntar who murdered a 4yr old girl by smashing her skull in with his rifle-butt.
Good ol' Samir, people like him get guns and salary from Iran, air support from Russia and USA looks the other way. If they were fighting ISIS I wouldn't mind but they are not.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 16 May 2016 11:52)
Over the last two years RUssian media & MOD has been bashing amnesty any time it reports on Russian war crimes in Syria.
They say have said that it is biased, anti-russian, not-researched and that you cannot trust anything it says.
Last week amnesty released a report on the possible use of Chemical weapons by Syrian rebels and now Russian media is quoting amnesty even though last week it said that it publishes lies!!!

THis is exactly what you do, either AEI and Thomas Donnelly are reliable or they are not. YOu cannot complain about NGOs and Think Thanks and then start using them as references when it suits you.

F35 program is junk yes and people know it, Im not sure what you point is, you expect the goverment to admit it wastes money? Name one government that does often.
I agree that US cannot spend without consequence but neither can Russia, China etc
You often talk about the true US employment data compared to the published figures, you don't seem to realise that China "fixes" its figures even more that US does.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Amnesty is a waste of time. When the US was torturing Iraq’s in Abu Grahib prison not a PEEP was heard from Amnesty or another so called human rights group
(sj, 16 May 2016 15:52)

Are you for real, Amnesty were the one of the leaders in exposing what happened???????
Here is Amnesty talking about it 4 months before it got proper exposure


23 July 2003 Amnesty
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/continuing-failure-uphold-human-rights

Nov 1 2003 Associated Press Article
http://legacy.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/world/iraq/20031101-0936-iraq-thecamps.html


"Russian war crimes are seen everywhere. While Russia commits crimes the US liberates. Is that right?"
No, but I would say that US takes greater care of the civilian population that Russia. If it had been Russia who bombed Belgrade instead of NATO there would have been 5000 dead civilians instead of 500.


What figures does China “fix”?
http://qz.com/454160/chinas-official-gdp-charade-is-in-and-surprise-its-7/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2015-12/14/content_22705255.htm
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07BEIJING1760_a.html
GDP figures are "man-made" and therefore unreliable, Li said ( this is a direct quote from the man who is now the prime minister)

Azir

pre 7 godina

U.S.A. is number one and if it wasn't for America you unappreciative pigs would be starving....

Look at your co defendents the poor Greeks.....

Begging and complaining welfare checks (Bail-outs)are not arriving fast enough...

Dwight

pre 7 godina

Perhaps you might regale that story to the families that have lost relative or friends during these careful bombings.
(sj, 17 May 2016 00:39)

You know well that is not what I meant but maybe you can tell the slaves in China making iPhones about how wonderful it is that their government has lots of gold.

Dwight

pre 7 godina

(sj, 17 May 2016 11:21)
It is impossible to discuss these things with you. You don't read anything that anyone replies to you, you simply imagine what you want them to say and reply to that.


SJ: "USA is weak it cant do anything. LOL. China is great".
Commenter: "but last week you said USA organised Maidan and created ISIS"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL. China is great"
Commenter: "Here is all the proof that shows China's economy has a lot of prolems"
SJ: "USA sucks LOL".