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Mustafa: Kosovo to have army soon; Serbs uninformed

Kosovo Prime Minister Isa Mustafa has announced that Kosovo's armed forces would be formed "very soon."

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icj1

pre 7 godina

only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
(sj, 12 May 2016 11:57)

Because China's total debt relative to the GDP is higher that US's, mate. But I totally agree that it is a shame that few people, if any, understand that virtues of the economic and financial analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Don't worry were we'll find the weapons sj.
Turkey has plenty of weapons that will happily donate to Kosova, and that would be more than enough to pulverize the entire Serbia if it misbehaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6W0vkUrGs

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Kosovo has already borrowed money from the IMF

"...they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for" Mustafa has not said Kosovo's army will be big or great. we already have a protection corps, according to you however, Kosovo shouldn't be able to afford even that!

as for Crotia, I can give you links to the world bank, European union and plenty other articles that attest to Croatia's economy being bigger than Serbia's. you can offer offer me nothing than your opinion

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 12 May 2016 11:08)
On what basis can it borrow? Current Kosovo’s operational funds are met by Brussels not by Pristina raising taxes. Its current official level of unemployment is 45% but more likely 70% or higher.
If you see it differently I’d be very happy to hear how Kosovo generates its revenue. Even you should know that banks do not give out money for nothing and since Kosovo does not have any real income stream who is going to lend year after year to maintain an army?
I’ve been to both Albania and Macedonia and yes they are poor but I could see that there is an income stream from various sources and they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for. Kosovo cannot.

As far as “institutions” are concerned, those same institutions still rate the US as 1 world economy. In the scheme of things Serbia’s economy is a speck of sand on a beach so who cares, but only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
Had Serbian economists made that statement about Croatia then I would have put that into the building morale category but these were Croat economists and they were not joking either. No new investment is opening in Croatia, in fact they are leaving.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Same way as Serbia pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Albania pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Macedonia pays for its army, by borrowing.
I stand by what I wrote earlier, not a single institution places Serbia's economy above Criatia's

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
The interview was a pre-edited discussion with two economists from another program, but it was reduced to less than 1 minute, for HRTV Dnevnik. Normally at the beginning of Dnevnik they give a preview of what will be covered but not everything is mentioned so this caught me unprepared.
I had managed to catch only one name and that was Martin Sopta from Zagreb University.
Now as an economist tell us how Kosovo will pay for its army?

Tirana

pre 7 godina

Isa Mustafa,hopefully you will pay for this army with "bananas", that are imported from Ecuador!.
For weapon's, we will sell our peaches,and pears.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Moderate Serb, 11 May 2016 14:08

Well when you have HRTV interviewing Croat economists and they state that Serbia has surpassed the Croatian economy, what do you want me to say? They openly admit it but our Albo friends, such as yourself, don’t believe it.
This morning HRTV aired a story showing busloads of young Croats heading to Germany looking for jobs. Having said that I’d love to hear all about how the Croats have managed to establish that fabulous economy.
Last year I was in Europe from March to September and I travelled everywhere. I saw every part of the former Yugoslavia and I know that Serbia is poor, but it’s also the only part of the Balkans that is moving forward. It’s the only place where industry is opening up.
Just yesterday morning Phillip Moris opened a new factory in Vranje – they moved it from Croatia. Not one has opened a can of coke in Croatia in the last several years. However, I’ll be more than happy to pay for a one way ticket to Croatia should you decide to move there.
Slovenia was once the jewel in the crown of Yugoslavia but today they are a very large recipient of EU aid and they do not live as well as they did in the past. Slovenes will openly tell you that.
Here is some news for you Serbia holds the bulk of arable land once contained with the former Yugoslavia. Food is the least of their problems in Serbia.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
I’m not stating that. It comes from Croat economists. They were interviewed on HRTV and it was aired late last week on Dnevnik.

And that is why your degree from Pristina University is only worth being nailed on the inside of an outhouse door.

Wbz2

pre 7 godina

But Albanians already have a large army detachment. Admittedly they are currently fighting in Iraq and Syria.

How do Albanians feel about being so closely associated with medieval primitives?

The international community and the World Bank need to hold a donor conference in order to invest in Albanian schools.

Education cures human primitivism and promotes normal mental development.

Albania needs not a further feeder unit for medieval terrorist primitives but money for education and schools. And bread.

Give them bread and books, not guns and gobbledygook.

Moderate Serb

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 11 May 2016 12:22)


It is clearly evident to anyone who frequents b92 that you are full of hot air. Case in point, you take every opportunity to state Croatia is in financial difficulty, but fail to acknowledge Serbia is much worse off. Unlike yourself, I have recently been to both countries for extended periods of time and I assure you Serbia is much poorer. I sincerely wish this was not the case, but I can face reality, as opposed to you. The main reason is obvious, Serbia has to feed three times the number of people as Croatia.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

and I stand by it, since piss poor Serbia has an army, Kosovo has the finances to have an army. according to you, poor states can't afford to have an army, well Serbia is poor, or do you wish to contest this? p.s. not a singe credible institution places Serbia's economy as above that of Croatia. its your imagination again

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 11:32

Of course only little Niki is the wise one and no one understands you. What did you say again? piss-poor-perennially-at-a-risk-of-bankruptcy-Serbia can afford an army, Kosovo can one too.
The inference being that since Serbia has an army then Kosovo also has the money to maintain an army. Perhaps you need a refresher course in English writing skills.
Once again I ask you where is the cash coming from to maintain a Kosovo army?

sj

pre 7 godina

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.
(Gjon Marku, 11 May 2016 11:48)

Arm chair warriors at their best. You should soon receive a call from the US War College to lecture on tactics LOL.

Joni

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.
(Gordon Gekko, 10 May 2016 17:32)

Keep repeating it to youself - maybe - maybe..., you must not fear us anymore. Albanians are the only nation in world that all the neighbors fear, eventhough are bigger than us. I don't see my country give a sh$$t of how many weapons you buy, while you are in panic all the time.
Albanians could not do even a fart - because Serbs will complain about. Mahhh..., is called panic..
I think you need to go to school and learn that all the troubles in Balkan always came from Serbs not from Albanians.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 10 May 2016 15:46)

Despite holding an economics degree from Pristina University you still don’t understand the essence of economics of a nation state or is this a problem with subjects they teach at that university? It takes MONEY to maintain an army. If the current administration, judiciary and police force in Kosovo are all paid for by the EU, who is paying for an army?
I can name you dozens of items that Serbia exports, but I cannot find one coming from Kosovo – not one. Yes Serbia is poor but not for long mate, not for long, but Albania and Kosovo will always be extremely poor. Even Croats have said on their HRTV that on the economy side they have now fallen behind Serbia.
I suggest you read my attachment again on conditions in Kosova. It’s from the BBC not

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

your comprehension skills surfacing again, where did I write one does not need money to maintain an army? p.s. if Serbia is poor, meaning it has no money, how does it maintain an army? does Serbia export enough to maintain an army? don't you ever get tired of your own nonsense?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".
(Mendo, 11 May 2016 10:31)

No its not. The law you are referring to is from 2008 when Kosovo declared independence. In order to prevent from having to transform 15k UQK Soldiers to FSK, the governemnt decided to reboot the Kosovo Army Program with a small number and release the majority from duty. It was also a good chance weed out the ranks and start fresh without loosing KnowHow.

As its says in the law "FSK shall initially comprise...". INITIALLY. After the formation of FSK with some 2000 Soldiers in 2008 the numbers have been increased according to plan and budget. In its final form, I think it will have no more than 10k soldiers which are not enough to invade but more than enough to defend a country of the size of Kosovo.

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.
(Paul, 10 May 2016 23:20)

Yes. Camp Bondsteel is going to be used as Headquarters for FSK (soon to be FAK). This is not a secret.

Mendo

pre 7 godina

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".

Paul

pre 7 godina

An army of Albanians in Kosovo is more likely to be used in a civil war among Albanians in Kosovo. There are many Albanians there who are tired of playing with teargas. And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

You made some good points and I agree on some statements. I`m very well aware of what the official mission says about KFor but you cannot ignore the fact that UN1244 is not even the paper worth its written on anymore. Even if its doesnt say territorial integrity on paper they are still doing the job arent they?! After 2008, KFor lives in coexistence with Kosovo authorities like police, special forces and security forces.

It also doesnt change the fact that Nato is helping to form FSK, later FAK, with one objective only. To take over after KFor officialy ends its mandat. Many countries, like Luxemburg recently, are leaving because the security situation has changed and KFor is not needed anymore. Dont get me wrong, I hope they stay forever. At least some of them. There is only one way to deal with Serbia, cooperate and show `em the stick from time to time.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all."

Nor is there anywhere in UN1244, anything like the 'territorial integrity of the Republic of Serbia', mentioned at all.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.
Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters."

If that's the case, it must've been easy for the 4th largest army in Europe to wipe out a group of villagers with rusty Kalashnikovs. Why didn't you? How come the Yugoslav Army fought KLA for at least 2 years before NATO intervened and wasn't able to eliminate them?
Given the numerical superiority, training, organization, weaponry and the organized state behind it, that would have been a piece of cake right?

As Kissinger said: "The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose." So how come at the end of the war, it was the KLA marching through the street of Prishtina, not the Yugoslav army, if as you say, you were the lion and we were the kitten?

PT

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

UNMIK: http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unmik/
"Subsequently, following the declaration of independence by the Kosovo authorities and the entry into force of a new constitution on 15 June 2008, the tasks of the Mission have significantly been modified to focus primarily on the promotion of security, stability and respect for human rights in Kosovo."

KFOR: http://jfcnaples.nato.int/kfor/about-us/welcome-to-kfor/natos-role-in-kosovo

"Today, KFOR continues to contribute towards maintaining a safe and secure environment in Kosovo and freedom of movement for all."
"Throughout Kosovo, KFOR is cooperating and coordinating with the United Nations (UN), the European Union (EU) and other international actors to support the development of a stable, democratic, multi-ethnic and peaceful Kosovo."

It's odd that there is no mention in these homepages of Kosovo being part of Serbia.

Free

pre 7 godina

@ Gekko

You mean if there were no Albanians, Serbs wouldn`t make wars in Slovenia, Croatia, B-H, and Kosovo.

And let me guess, if there were no Albanians Serbs wouldn`t attack Bulgaria back in 1885.

Yes, i see. Shqiptars are the real problem.

I also remember a guy who attacked Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Britain, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Russia, Greece, Yugoslavia, Albania etc.
It was all Jews fault, according to him.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Everything it's going to be placed according to the plan. Helloooooo Kosova it's independent either you like it or not. So stop moaning and crying and move on

???

pre 7 godina

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FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31) # Comment link


You mean the ISIS flag?

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

If this gets NATO out of Kosovo-Metohija sooner, then I am all for it. If they leave then it's the KSF's responsibility to protect Serbs in the enclaves. And when they fail to do that, Serbia's Army will have to come back in and protect the local Serb population from aggressive savages that try to steal their homes, destroy their holy places and all the other things that savages do on a daily basis. Note, most Albanians are not savages.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo."

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Funny guy. KFORs task is (not WAS) to keep peace and implement and supervise UNSC1244. And maybe you didn't know it, especially in the recent years, KFORs main task was not to protect Albanians against Serb paramilitaries, but the opposie way: to protect Kosovo residents against violent Albanian extremists, guard churches and monasteries. A further task is to eliminate illegal armed fighters, like these 'Albanian Army' which recently came up.

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.

Albanian-Illyrian Orthodox KLA

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11)

Navi,
Serbia already has too many mothers in black, why beg for more. If must you risk more Serb lives, let them fight for Russia, her army is in need of cannon fodder.

Gordon Gekko

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

@sj

Dont worry bro, we got this. He`s not talking about creating an army out of nowhere. We already have an army. Its name was UQK, which now has been changed to FSK. What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo.

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.

the truth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11) # Comment link

I have yet to see your so called vojska serbija on Kosova land!? Keep on dreaming, and good luck with hallucinations.

sj

pre 7 godina

When things get tough and they can’t improve life in Kosovo then out of thin air they are going to create a Kosovo army.
Let’s see; an army needs tanks, rifles, ammunition, air support, barracks, training facilitates, training grounds, officer academy, finances to pay the military and so on. Now if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers what numbers can Kosovo have? Then ask yourself what percentage of Kosovo’s GDP will have to be set aside for the military considering that the vast amount of income is actually EU donations.
If some simple people think that NATO or US will “donate” equipment, they will for a price. There is no free lunch. Someone always pays for it
This is the real situation in Kosovo - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31967471
Mustapha you should be herding goats not sit in parliament LOL.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

@sj

Dont worry bro, we got this. He`s not talking about creating an army out of nowhere. We already have an army. Its name was UQK, which now has been changed to FSK. What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo.

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.

sj

pre 7 godina

When things get tough and they can’t improve life in Kosovo then out of thin air they are going to create a Kosovo army.
Let’s see; an army needs tanks, rifles, ammunition, air support, barracks, training facilitates, training grounds, officer academy, finances to pay the military and so on. Now if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers what numbers can Kosovo have? Then ask yourself what percentage of Kosovo’s GDP will have to be set aside for the military considering that the vast amount of income is actually EU donations.
If some simple people think that NATO or US will “donate” equipment, they will for a price. There is no free lunch. Someone always pays for it
This is the real situation in Kosovo - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31967471
Mustapha you should be herding goats not sit in parliament LOL.

the truth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11) # Comment link

I have yet to see your so called vojska serbija on Kosova land!? Keep on dreaming, and good luck with hallucinations.

Gordon Gekko

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo."

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Funny guy. KFORs task is (not WAS) to keep peace and implement and supervise UNSC1244. And maybe you didn't know it, especially in the recent years, KFORs main task was not to protect Albanians against Serb paramilitaries, but the opposie way: to protect Kosovo residents against violent Albanian extremists, guard churches and monasteries. A further task is to eliminate illegal armed fighters, like these 'Albanian Army' which recently came up.

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.
Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters."

If that's the case, it must've been easy for the 4th largest army in Europe to wipe out a group of villagers with rusty Kalashnikovs. Why didn't you? How come the Yugoslav Army fought KLA for at least 2 years before NATO intervened and wasn't able to eliminate them?
Given the numerical superiority, training, organization, weaponry and the organized state behind it, that would have been a piece of cake right?

As Kissinger said: "The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose." So how come at the end of the war, it was the KLA marching through the street of Prishtina, not the Yugoslav army, if as you say, you were the lion and we were the kitten?

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

If this gets NATO out of Kosovo-Metohija sooner, then I am all for it. If they leave then it's the KSF's responsibility to protect Serbs in the enclaves. And when they fail to do that, Serbia's Army will have to come back in and protect the local Serb population from aggressive savages that try to steal their homes, destroy their holy places and all the other things that savages do on a daily basis. Note, most Albanians are not savages.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Everything it's going to be placed according to the plan. Helloooooo Kosova it's independent either you like it or not. So stop moaning and crying and move on

???

pre 7 godina

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FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31) # Comment link


You mean the ISIS flag?

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

You made some good points and I agree on some statements. I`m very well aware of what the official mission says about KFor but you cannot ignore the fact that UN1244 is not even the paper worth its written on anymore. Even if its doesnt say territorial integrity on paper they are still doing the job arent they?! After 2008, KFor lives in coexistence with Kosovo authorities like police, special forces and security forces.

It also doesnt change the fact that Nato is helping to form FSK, later FAK, with one objective only. To take over after KFor officialy ends its mandat. Many countries, like Luxemburg recently, are leaving because the security situation has changed and KFor is not needed anymore. Dont get me wrong, I hope they stay forever. At least some of them. There is only one way to deal with Serbia, cooperate and show `em the stick from time to time.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all."

Nor is there anywhere in UN1244, anything like the 'territorial integrity of the Republic of Serbia', mentioned at all.

Joni

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.
(Gordon Gekko, 10 May 2016 17:32)

Keep repeating it to youself - maybe - maybe..., you must not fear us anymore. Albanians are the only nation in world that all the neighbors fear, eventhough are bigger than us. I don't see my country give a sh$$t of how many weapons you buy, while you are in panic all the time.
Albanians could not do even a fart - because Serbs will complain about. Mahhh..., is called panic..
I think you need to go to school and learn that all the troubles in Balkan always came from Serbs not from Albanians.

Albanian-Illyrian Orthodox KLA

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11)

Navi,
Serbia already has too many mothers in black, why beg for more. If must you risk more Serb lives, let them fight for Russia, her army is in need of cannon fodder.

Free

pre 7 godina

@ Gekko

You mean if there were no Albanians, Serbs wouldn`t make wars in Slovenia, Croatia, B-H, and Kosovo.

And let me guess, if there were no Albanians Serbs wouldn`t attack Bulgaria back in 1885.

Yes, i see. Shqiptars are the real problem.

I also remember a guy who attacked Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Britain, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Russia, Greece, Yugoslavia, Albania etc.
It was all Jews fault, according to him.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".
(Mendo, 11 May 2016 10:31)

No its not. The law you are referring to is from 2008 when Kosovo declared independence. In order to prevent from having to transform 15k UQK Soldiers to FSK, the governemnt decided to reboot the Kosovo Army Program with a small number and release the majority from duty. It was also a good chance weed out the ranks and start fresh without loosing KnowHow.

As its says in the law "FSK shall initially comprise...". INITIALLY. After the formation of FSK with some 2000 Soldiers in 2008 the numbers have been increased according to plan and budget. In its final form, I think it will have no more than 10k soldiers which are not enough to invade but more than enough to defend a country of the size of Kosovo.

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.

PT

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

UNMIK: http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unmik/
"Subsequently, following the declaration of independence by the Kosovo authorities and the entry into force of a new constitution on 15 June 2008, the tasks of the Mission have significantly been modified to focus primarily on the promotion of security, stability and respect for human rights in Kosovo."

KFOR: http://jfcnaples.nato.int/kfor/about-us/welcome-to-kfor/natos-role-in-kosovo

"Today, KFOR continues to contribute towards maintaining a safe and secure environment in Kosovo and freedom of movement for all."
"Throughout Kosovo, KFOR is cooperating and coordinating with the United Nations (UN), the European Union (EU) and other international actors to support the development of a stable, democratic, multi-ethnic and peaceful Kosovo."

It's odd that there is no mention in these homepages of Kosovo being part of Serbia.

Moderate Serb

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 11 May 2016 12:22)


It is clearly evident to anyone who frequents b92 that you are full of hot air. Case in point, you take every opportunity to state Croatia is in financial difficulty, but fail to acknowledge Serbia is much worse off. Unlike yourself, I have recently been to both countries for extended periods of time and I assure you Serbia is much poorer. I sincerely wish this was not the case, but I can face reality, as opposed to you. The main reason is obvious, Serbia has to feed three times the number of people as Croatia.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

and I stand by it, since piss poor Serbia has an army, Kosovo has the finances to have an army. according to you, poor states can't afford to have an army, well Serbia is poor, or do you wish to contest this? p.s. not a singe credible institution places Serbia's economy as above that of Croatia. its your imagination again

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

your comprehension skills surfacing again, where did I write one does not need money to maintain an army? p.s. if Serbia is poor, meaning it has no money, how does it maintain an army? does Serbia export enough to maintain an army? don't you ever get tired of your own nonsense?

Paul

pre 7 godina

An army of Albanians in Kosovo is more likely to be used in a civil war among Albanians in Kosovo. There are many Albanians there who are tired of playing with teargas. And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.
(Paul, 10 May 2016 23:20)

Yes. Camp Bondsteel is going to be used as Headquarters for FSK (soon to be FAK). This is not a secret.

Mendo

pre 7 godina

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 10 May 2016 15:46)

Despite holding an economics degree from Pristina University you still don’t understand the essence of economics of a nation state or is this a problem with subjects they teach at that university? It takes MONEY to maintain an army. If the current administration, judiciary and police force in Kosovo are all paid for by the EU, who is paying for an army?
I can name you dozens of items that Serbia exports, but I cannot find one coming from Kosovo – not one. Yes Serbia is poor but not for long mate, not for long, but Albania and Kosovo will always be extremely poor. Even Croats have said on their HRTV that on the economy side they have now fallen behind Serbia.
I suggest you read my attachment again on conditions in Kosova. It’s from the BBC not

Wbz2

pre 7 godina

But Albanians already have a large army detachment. Admittedly they are currently fighting in Iraq and Syria.

How do Albanians feel about being so closely associated with medieval primitives?

The international community and the World Bank need to hold a donor conference in order to invest in Albanian schools.

Education cures human primitivism and promotes normal mental development.

Albania needs not a further feeder unit for medieval terrorist primitives but money for education and schools. And bread.

Give them bread and books, not guns and gobbledygook.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Moderate Serb, 11 May 2016 14:08

Well when you have HRTV interviewing Croat economists and they state that Serbia has surpassed the Croatian economy, what do you want me to say? They openly admit it but our Albo friends, such as yourself, don’t believe it.
This morning HRTV aired a story showing busloads of young Croats heading to Germany looking for jobs. Having said that I’d love to hear all about how the Croats have managed to establish that fabulous economy.
Last year I was in Europe from March to September and I travelled everywhere. I saw every part of the former Yugoslavia and I know that Serbia is poor, but it’s also the only part of the Balkans that is moving forward. It’s the only place where industry is opening up.
Just yesterday morning Phillip Moris opened a new factory in Vranje – they moved it from Croatia. Not one has opened a can of coke in Croatia in the last several years. However, I’ll be more than happy to pay for a one way ticket to Croatia should you decide to move there.
Slovenia was once the jewel in the crown of Yugoslavia but today they are a very large recipient of EU aid and they do not live as well as they did in the past. Slovenes will openly tell you that.
Here is some news for you Serbia holds the bulk of arable land once contained with the former Yugoslavia. Food is the least of their problems in Serbia.

Tirana

pre 7 godina

Isa Mustafa,hopefully you will pay for this army with "bananas", that are imported from Ecuador!.
For weapon's, we will sell our peaches,and pears.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 11:32

Of course only little Niki is the wise one and no one understands you. What did you say again? piss-poor-perennially-at-a-risk-of-bankruptcy-Serbia can afford an army, Kosovo can one too.
The inference being that since Serbia has an army then Kosovo also has the money to maintain an army. Perhaps you need a refresher course in English writing skills.
Once again I ask you where is the cash coming from to maintain a Kosovo army?

sj

pre 7 godina

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.
(Gjon Marku, 11 May 2016 11:48)

Arm chair warriors at their best. You should soon receive a call from the US War College to lecture on tactics LOL.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
I’m not stating that. It comes from Croat economists. They were interviewed on HRTV and it was aired late last week on Dnevnik.

And that is why your degree from Pristina University is only worth being nailed on the inside of an outhouse door.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Same way as Serbia pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Albania pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Macedonia pays for its army, by borrowing.
I stand by what I wrote earlier, not a single institution places Serbia's economy above Criatia's

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 12 May 2016 11:08)
On what basis can it borrow? Current Kosovo’s operational funds are met by Brussels not by Pristina raising taxes. Its current official level of unemployment is 45% but more likely 70% or higher.
If you see it differently I’d be very happy to hear how Kosovo generates its revenue. Even you should know that banks do not give out money for nothing and since Kosovo does not have any real income stream who is going to lend year after year to maintain an army?
I’ve been to both Albania and Macedonia and yes they are poor but I could see that there is an income stream from various sources and they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for. Kosovo cannot.

As far as “institutions” are concerned, those same institutions still rate the US as 1 world economy. In the scheme of things Serbia’s economy is a speck of sand on a beach so who cares, but only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
Had Serbian economists made that statement about Croatia then I would have put that into the building morale category but these were Croat economists and they were not joking either. No new investment is opening in Croatia, in fact they are leaving.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
The interview was a pre-edited discussion with two economists from another program, but it was reduced to less than 1 minute, for HRTV Dnevnik. Normally at the beginning of Dnevnik they give a preview of what will be covered but not everything is mentioned so this caught me unprepared.
I had managed to catch only one name and that was Martin Sopta from Zagreb University.
Now as an economist tell us how Kosovo will pay for its army?

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Don't worry were we'll find the weapons sj.
Turkey has plenty of weapons that will happily donate to Kosova, and that would be more than enough to pulverize the entire Serbia if it misbehaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6W0vkUrGs

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Kosovo has already borrowed money from the IMF

"...they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for" Mustafa has not said Kosovo's army will be big or great. we already have a protection corps, according to you however, Kosovo shouldn't be able to afford even that!

as for Crotia, I can give you links to the world bank, European union and plenty other articles that attest to Croatia's economy being bigger than Serbia's. you can offer offer me nothing than your opinion

icj1

pre 7 godina

only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
(sj, 12 May 2016 11:57)

Because China's total debt relative to the GDP is higher that US's, mate. But I totally agree that it is a shame that few people, if any, understand that virtues of the economic and financial analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Gordon Gekko

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.

the truth

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11) # Comment link

I have yet to see your so called vojska serbija on Kosova land!? Keep on dreaming, and good luck with hallucinations.

sj

pre 7 godina

When things get tough and they can’t improve life in Kosovo then out of thin air they are going to create a Kosovo army.
Let’s see; an army needs tanks, rifles, ammunition, air support, barracks, training facilitates, training grounds, officer academy, finances to pay the military and so on. Now if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers what numbers can Kosovo have? Then ask yourself what percentage of Kosovo’s GDP will have to be set aside for the military considering that the vast amount of income is actually EU donations.
If some simple people think that NATO or US will “donate” equipment, they will for a price. There is no free lunch. Someone always pays for it
This is the real situation in Kosovo - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31967471
Mustapha you should be herding goats not sit in parliament LOL.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

@sj

Dont worry bro, we got this. He`s not talking about creating an army out of nowhere. We already have an army. Its name was UQK, which now has been changed to FSK. What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo.

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

"What hes saying is that FSK needs to be changed to FAK in order to replace KFor, which up until now was responsible to protect the territorial integrity of the Republik of Kosovo."

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Funny guy. KFORs task is (not WAS) to keep peace and implement and supervise UNSC1244. And maybe you didn't know it, especially in the recent years, KFORs main task was not to protect Albanians against Serb paramilitaries, but the opposie way: to protect Kosovo residents against violent Albanian extremists, guard churches and monasteries. A further task is to eliminate illegal armed fighters, like these 'Albanian Army' which recently came up.

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.

???

pre 7 godina

.

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31) # Comment link


You mean the ISIS flag?

Albanian-Illyrian Orthodox KLA

pre 7 godina

Kosovo has an army. It's called Vojska Srbije. Albanians however get uptight whenever they try to do their job.
(Navi, 10 May 2016 16:11)

Navi,
Serbia already has too many mothers in black, why beg for more. If must you risk more Serb lives, let them fight for Russia, her army is in need of cannon fodder.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

If this gets NATO out of Kosovo-Metohija sooner, then I am all for it. If they leave then it's the KSF's responsibility to protect Serbs in the enclaves. And when they fail to do that, Serbia's Army will have to come back in and protect the local Serb population from aggressive savages that try to steal their homes, destroy their holy places and all the other things that savages do on a daily basis. Note, most Albanians are not savages.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.
Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters."

If that's the case, it must've been easy for the 4th largest army in Europe to wipe out a group of villagers with rusty Kalashnikovs. Why didn't you? How come the Yugoslav Army fought KLA for at least 2 years before NATO intervened and wasn't able to eliminate them?
Given the numerical superiority, training, organization, weaponry and the organized state behind it, that would have been a piece of cake right?

As Kissinger said: "The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose." So how come at the end of the war, it was the KLA marching through the street of Prishtina, not the Yugoslav army, if as you say, you were the lion and we were the kitten?

Wbz2

pre 7 godina

But Albanians already have a large army detachment. Admittedly they are currently fighting in Iraq and Syria.

How do Albanians feel about being so closely associated with medieval primitives?

The international community and the World Bank need to hold a donor conference in order to invest in Albanian schools.

Education cures human primitivism and promotes normal mental development.

Albania needs not a further feeder unit for medieval terrorist primitives but money for education and schools. And bread.

Give them bread and books, not guns and gobbledygook.

sj

pre 7 godina

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.
(Gjon Marku, 11 May 2016 11:48)

Arm chair warriors at their best. You should soon receive a call from the US War College to lecture on tactics LOL.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.

Free

pre 7 godina

@ Gekko

You mean if there were no Albanians, Serbs wouldn`t make wars in Slovenia, Croatia, B-H, and Kosovo.

And let me guess, if there were no Albanians Serbs wouldn`t attack Bulgaria back in 1885.

Yes, i see. Shqiptars are the real problem.

I also remember a guy who attacked Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Britain, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Russia, Greece, Yugoslavia, Albania etc.
It was all Jews fault, according to him.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Everything it's going to be placed according to the plan. Helloooooo Kosova it's independent either you like it or not. So stop moaning and crying and move on

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
I’m not stating that. It comes from Croat economists. They were interviewed on HRTV and it was aired late last week on Dnevnik.

And that is why your degree from Pristina University is only worth being nailed on the inside of an outhouse door.

Tirana

pre 7 godina

Isa Mustafa,hopefully you will pay for this army with "bananas", that are imported from Ecuador!.
For weapon's, we will sell our peaches,and pears.

PT

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

UNMIK: http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unmik/
"Subsequently, following the declaration of independence by the Kosovo authorities and the entry into force of a new constitution on 15 June 2008, the tasks of the Mission have significantly been modified to focus primarily on the promotion of security, stability and respect for human rights in Kosovo."

KFOR: http://jfcnaples.nato.int/kfor/about-us/welcome-to-kfor/natos-role-in-kosovo

"Today, KFOR continues to contribute towards maintaining a safe and secure environment in Kosovo and freedom of movement for all."
"Throughout Kosovo, KFOR is cooperating and coordinating with the United Nations (UN), the European Union (EU) and other international actors to support the development of a stable, democratic, multi-ethnic and peaceful Kosovo."

It's odd that there is no mention in these homepages of Kosovo being part of Serbia.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all. UNMIK and KFOR have nice homepages, you can read what they are about - but I guess you prefer not to read it.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 May 2016 18:19)

You made some good points and I agree on some statements. I`m very well aware of what the official mission says about KFor but you cannot ignore the fact that UN1244 is not even the paper worth its written on anymore. Even if its doesnt say territorial integrity on paper they are still doing the job arent they?! After 2008, KFor lives in coexistence with Kosovo authorities like police, special forces and security forces.

It also doesnt change the fact that Nato is helping to form FSK, later FAK, with one objective only. To take over after KFor officialy ends its mandat. Many countries, like Luxemburg recently, are leaving because the security situation has changed and KFor is not needed anymore. Dont get me wrong, I hope they stay forever. At least some of them. There is only one way to deal with Serbia, cooperate and show `em the stick from time to time.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"Nowhere in UN1244 was anything like a 'territorial integrity of a Republik of Kosovo' mentioned at all."

Nor is there anywhere in UN1244, anything like the 'territorial integrity of the Republic of Serbia', mentioned at all.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 10 May 2016 15:46)

Despite holding an economics degree from Pristina University you still don’t understand the essence of economics of a nation state or is this a problem with subjects they teach at that university? It takes MONEY to maintain an army. If the current administration, judiciary and police force in Kosovo are all paid for by the EU, who is paying for an army?
I can name you dozens of items that Serbia exports, but I cannot find one coming from Kosovo – not one. Yes Serbia is poor but not for long mate, not for long, but Albania and Kosovo will always be extremely poor. Even Croats have said on their HRTV that on the economy side they have now fallen behind Serbia.
I suggest you read my attachment again on conditions in Kosova. It’s from the BBC not

Joni

pre 7 godina

You can call a kitten a lion but it doesnt make it so.

Shqiptars have no heart for soldiering, only for crime, false flag operations, and killing their own dissenters.

And in any any case, Albanians already have an army, it's called the Army of Albania. I'm not sure if they've ever seen combat though, or can implement even basic military doctrine.

The Albanians must go to school and receive an education. All of the problems in that region will then disappear.
(Gordon Gekko, 10 May 2016 17:32)

Keep repeating it to youself - maybe - maybe..., you must not fear us anymore. Albanians are the only nation in world that all the neighbors fear, eventhough are bigger than us. I don't see my country give a sh$$t of how many weapons you buy, while you are in panic all the time.
Albanians could not do even a fart - because Serbs will complain about. Mahhh..., is called panic..
I think you need to go to school and learn that all the troubles in Balkan always came from Serbs not from Albanians.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 11:32

Of course only little Niki is the wise one and no one understands you. What did you say again? piss-poor-perennially-at-a-risk-of-bankruptcy-Serbia can afford an army, Kosovo can one too.
The inference being that since Serbia has an army then Kosovo also has the money to maintain an army. Perhaps you need a refresher course in English writing skills.
Once again I ask you where is the cash coming from to maintain a Kosovo army?

sj

pre 7 godina

(Moderate Serb, 11 May 2016 14:08

Well when you have HRTV interviewing Croat economists and they state that Serbia has surpassed the Croatian economy, what do you want me to say? They openly admit it but our Albo friends, such as yourself, don’t believe it.
This morning HRTV aired a story showing busloads of young Croats heading to Germany looking for jobs. Having said that I’d love to hear all about how the Croats have managed to establish that fabulous economy.
Last year I was in Europe from March to September and I travelled everywhere. I saw every part of the former Yugoslavia and I know that Serbia is poor, but it’s also the only part of the Balkans that is moving forward. It’s the only place where industry is opening up.
Just yesterday morning Phillip Moris opened a new factory in Vranje – they moved it from Croatia. Not one has opened a can of coke in Croatia in the last several years. However, I’ll be more than happy to pay for a one way ticket to Croatia should you decide to move there.
Slovenia was once the jewel in the crown of Yugoslavia but today they are a very large recipient of EU aid and they do not live as well as they did in the past. Slovenes will openly tell you that.
Here is some news for you Serbia holds the bulk of arable land once contained with the former Yugoslavia. Food is the least of their problems in Serbia.

Moderate Serb

pre 7 godina

(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

Ok you have 9000 operating under NATO member flags, so what? This is not an army. Do you know what constitutes an army? How are you going to pay for a standing army? Yes to have an army you have to have money and if Croatia can only afford 600 professional soldiers how is Kosovo going to pay for 9000???????

Lad you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 11 May 2016 12:22)


It is clearly evident to anyone who frequents b92 that you are full of hot air. Case in point, you take every opportunity to state Croatia is in financial difficulty, but fail to acknowledge Serbia is much worse off. Unlike yourself, I have recently been to both countries for extended periods of time and I assure you Serbia is much poorer. I sincerely wish this was not the case, but I can face reality, as opposed to you. The main reason is obvious, Serbia has to feed three times the number of people as Croatia.

Paul

pre 7 godina

An army of Albanians in Kosovo is more likely to be used in a civil war among Albanians in Kosovo. There are many Albanians there who are tired of playing with teargas. And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.

Mendo

pre 7 godina

FSK has 9000+ professional Soldiers. Equipped and trained by Nato to meet Nato standards. They have already been involved in several Nato missions under different Nato Member Flags.
(Gjon Marku, 10 May 2016 16:31)

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

It is against law mate. In "Republika e Kosovës, LAW ON THE KOSOVO SECURITY FORCE, Law No. 03/L-046" page 6, states (Article 14) "14.1 The Kosovo Security Force shall initially comprise an active component of a maximum of 2500 personnel and a reserve component of a maximum of 800 personnel".
(Mendo, 11 May 2016 10:31)

No its not. The law you are referring to is from 2008 when Kosovo declared independence. In order to prevent from having to transform 15k UQK Soldiers to FSK, the governemnt decided to reboot the Kosovo Army Program with a small number and release the majority from duty. It was also a good chance weed out the ranks and start fresh without loosing KnowHow.

As its says in the law "FSK shall initially comprise...". INITIALLY. After the formation of FSK with some 2000 Soldiers in 2008 the numbers have been increased according to plan and budget. In its final form, I think it will have no more than 10k soldiers which are not enough to invade but more than enough to defend a country of the size of Kosovo.

10K well equipped professional Soldiers can defend Kosovo against any enemy.

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 12 May 2016 11:08)
On what basis can it borrow? Current Kosovo’s operational funds are met by Brussels not by Pristina raising taxes. Its current official level of unemployment is 45% but more likely 70% or higher.
If you see it differently I’d be very happy to hear how Kosovo generates its revenue. Even you should know that banks do not give out money for nothing and since Kosovo does not have any real income stream who is going to lend year after year to maintain an army?
I’ve been to both Albania and Macedonia and yes they are poor but I could see that there is an income stream from various sources and they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for. Kosovo cannot.

As far as “institutions” are concerned, those same institutions still rate the US as 1 world economy. In the scheme of things Serbia’s economy is a speck of sand on a beach so who cares, but only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
Had Serbian economists made that statement about Croatia then I would have put that into the building morale category but these were Croat economists and they were not joking either. No new investment is opening in Croatia, in fact they are leaving.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

And what of Bondsteel? Is that going to be turned over to an Albanian army in Kosovo? Not likely.
(Paul, 10 May 2016 23:20)

Yes. Camp Bondsteel is going to be used as Headquarters for FSK (soon to be FAK). This is not a secret.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

your comprehension skills surfacing again, where did I write one does not need money to maintain an army? p.s. if Serbia is poor, meaning it has no money, how does it maintain an army? does Serbia export enough to maintain an army? don't you ever get tired of your own nonsense?

sj

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 11 May 2016 14:29)
The interview was a pre-edited discussion with two economists from another program, but it was reduced to less than 1 minute, for HRTV Dnevnik. Normally at the beginning of Dnevnik they give a preview of what will be covered but not everything is mentioned so this caught me unprepared.
I had managed to catch only one name and that was Martin Sopta from Zagreb University.
Now as an economist tell us how Kosovo will pay for its army?

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

and I stand by it, since piss poor Serbia has an army, Kosovo has the finances to have an army. according to you, poor states can't afford to have an army, well Serbia is poor, or do you wish to contest this? p.s. not a singe credible institution places Serbia's economy as above that of Croatia. its your imagination again

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Same way as Serbia pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Albania pays for its army, by borrowing. same way as piss poor Macedonia pays for its army, by borrowing.
I stand by what I wrote earlier, not a single institution places Serbia's economy above Criatia's

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

Don't worry were we'll find the weapons sj.
Turkey has plenty of weapons that will happily donate to Kosova, and that would be more than enough to pulverize the entire Serbia if it misbehaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y6W0vkUrGs

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

@ sj

Kosovo has already borrowed money from the IMF

"...they may not have a great or big army, but what they have they can pay for" Mustafa has not said Kosovo's army will be big or great. we already have a protection corps, according to you however, Kosovo shouldn't be able to afford even that!

as for Crotia, I can give you links to the world bank, European union and plenty other articles that attest to Croatia's economy being bigger than Serbia's. you can offer offer me nothing than your opinion

icj1

pre 7 godina

only two weeks ago Standard and Poors downgraded China and yet the US with its Mount Everest of debt still miraculously remains the same at AAA.
(sj, 12 May 2016 11:57)

Because China's total debt relative to the GDP is higher that US's, mate. But I totally agree that it is a shame that few people, if any, understand that virtues of the economic and financial analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist