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Mogherini in Pristina, talks about visas, and dialogue

Federica Mogherini on Thursday congratulated Kosovo on the European Commission's proposal to lift visa requirements for travelers from Kosovo.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Yup, Kosovo is a country that is not a member of the United Nations, like Vatican, like Switzerland before 2002, like Serbia before 2000 and so on. Not sure what your point is, though :)

agRONio

pre 8 godina

Good guy(gay)If Serbia had visa free travel few years ago are you telling us what your compatriots where capable of doing in Europe from your lazy experience

Paul

pre 8 godina

VISA free travel can be issued to a territory as much as a state. Think of B&H. Think about the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia. Think of the borders between Albania and Kosovo.

Somebody is trying to gild a wilted lily. Hey all you Albanians in Kosovo, you want fries with that VISA free travel?

Sam D

pre 8 godina

Your not done yet. There are two conditions outstanding
. Border demarcation with Montenegro
. Reduction of crime and corruption
Both of this issues can take a long time to be satisfied by ALL parties concerned

good guy

pre 8 godina

As a huge klaker, boza, roasted garbanzo beans, gently roasted and salted pumpkin seeds, roasted chestnuts and pizza connoisseur, I'm looking forward to welcoming as many Albanians as can fit in EU.

Amanaparts

pre 8 godina

So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen`...
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 May 2016 13:34)

Well thats always the case. I travel across Europe regularly and I havent seen much Serb Tourist to be honest. Nor Albanian, Bosnian, Rumanian etc. Actually not even Croats. Fact is, most people in the Balkans cant afford to travel as much as people in Western Europe.

The thing with Viza liberalization for Kosovo is just partially about tourism. Its also a criteria to apply for EU Membership. It`s another proof for the legitimacy of Kosovo independance and it is a positiv sign for foreign investors. I`m surprised you faild to see that.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. "

I do not know of a single Kosovar citizen who thinks this. If you do, then you really do hang out with ignorant people. Maybe a change of crowd is needed

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.
(Guest, 6 May 2016 12:46)

LOL 20 years ago? That was the same for Serbs, Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, and Croats - not including those with financial means to travel, so you were all in the same boat.

But ok, I didn't know that having the possibility of travelling throughout Europe on a three-month tourist non-working visa that only the top 10% of Kosovo can afford was considered a "milestone goal", considering the award is conditional it's not abused, and I'm pretty sure thousands of Kosovo Albanians are already buying their one-way bus ticket out the there.

Like I said a few days ago, being at the bottom of the totem pole for so long makes you really aim low for victories. To be honest, I couldn't be happier this is being given before true reforms take place, as it ensures a mass exodus of Albanians fed up with corruption and stagnant poverty will leave Kosovo and never look back. Maybe Europe can tame you, or maybe you'll spread your insanity across the First World :)

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

Guest

Serbia is bitter! You seem to have forgotten that Serbia got visa free travel long long ago. Besides you didn't get it yet now did you. In what field are you ahead of Serbia besides organ harvesting and drug trafficking?

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided...

Can you explain me how South Albania where 98% of population are Ethnic Albanians will go to Greece?

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 6 May 2016 11:17)

Kosovo and Montenegro are price Serbia paid for its imperialist and irredentist mentality. It got a taste of its own medicine.

And yet, it seems, people don't quite realize this, because many of them still vote far right.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"A campaign will soon start for the purpose of preventing abuse of non-visa movement, which will very soon be guaranteed to Kosovo's citizens. From this moment on, the doors are open and the day when we will all feel closer is not far," Avromopoulos said.

Yes, very needed. I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. Or claim asylum. Or get support by EU sociel systems. All is not possible, it's like a tourist visa. Working in the EU is illegal, and the stay is restricted to 90 days within 180 days or so. The people going there have to provide financial means on their own. And, let's face he truth, the majority of Kosovo citizens who live from 200-300€/month simply cannot afford traveling. So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen', with most of them being 'businessmen' in the Kosovarian meaning of the word - you know what I mean, don't you?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.
(observer, 6 May 2016 10:48)

To Observer,
Where is Serbia?,In Europe and about to join European Union. She get paid to talk.As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations. The day that happens,Bosnia will have to be divided, Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided, Croatia will have to be divided. All divided into countries,and the world will have 1 million countries,and will start with, not United,but " Divided States,and Not Great Britain, but Divided Britain.Every idiot" Joe blow" will want their house - land ,with a flag on pole as country.!!
P's Djuric is still travelling thru Kosovska Mitrovica.You changed your informed!.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Not sure this doom scenario of Montenegro splitting, and Albania... !

Bosnia I assume will split one day but nothing wrong with that, I see no form or shape where Kosovo can be a part of Serbia without war and not just regional war but a WW, but stranger things have happened.

After split of Othoman empire borderes were not drawn with population in mind but on the map in some room far away, hence the issues today. Like it or not Kosovo is moving on its own and all Vucic had to say was oh they will pas through Serbia and leave $$$ in Serbia.

Serbia got Visa free not long ago and people were jumping for joy, Serbs in North with Serbian passports wont be able to travel to EU visa free hence their choice what they like.

By the way your comparison of Kosovo with North cypress is being disproven every day, where their passport is only accepted by Turkey Kosovo travelling visa free to Schengen zone big big difference, next week FIFA cheers. Oh on scotland being in Ueffa and FIFA they are not part of IOC so they still part of UK but Kosovo will be fighting for Gold in Judo :)

Guest

pre 8 godina

@Tony a Serb in Berlin

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...

observer

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

Guest

Serbia is bitter! You seem to have forgotten that Serbia got visa free travel long long ago. Besides you didn't get it yet now did you. In what field are you ahead of Serbia besides organ harvesting and drug trafficking?

observer

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided...

Can you explain me how South Albania where 98% of population are Ethnic Albanians will go to Greece?

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 6 May 2016 11:17)

Kosovo and Montenegro are price Serbia paid for its imperialist and irredentist mentality. It got a taste of its own medicine.

And yet, it seems, people don't quite realize this, because many of them still vote far right.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...

Guest

pre 8 godina

@Tony a Serb in Berlin

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Not sure this doom scenario of Montenegro splitting, and Albania... !

Bosnia I assume will split one day but nothing wrong with that, I see no form or shape where Kosovo can be a part of Serbia without war and not just regional war but a WW, but stranger things have happened.

After split of Othoman empire borderes were not drawn with population in mind but on the map in some room far away, hence the issues today. Like it or not Kosovo is moving on its own and all Vucic had to say was oh they will pas through Serbia and leave $$$ in Serbia.

Serbia got Visa free not long ago and people were jumping for joy, Serbs in North with Serbian passports wont be able to travel to EU visa free hence their choice what they like.

By the way your comparison of Kosovo with North cypress is being disproven every day, where their passport is only accepted by Turkey Kosovo travelling visa free to Schengen zone big big difference, next week FIFA cheers. Oh on scotland being in Ueffa and FIFA they are not part of IOC so they still part of UK but Kosovo will be fighting for Gold in Judo :)

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.
(Guest, 6 May 2016 12:46)

LOL 20 years ago? That was the same for Serbs, Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, and Croats - not including those with financial means to travel, so you were all in the same boat.

But ok, I didn't know that having the possibility of travelling throughout Europe on a three-month tourist non-working visa that only the top 10% of Kosovo can afford was considered a "milestone goal", considering the award is conditional it's not abused, and I'm pretty sure thousands of Kosovo Albanians are already buying their one-way bus ticket out the there.

Like I said a few days ago, being at the bottom of the totem pole for so long makes you really aim low for victories. To be honest, I couldn't be happier this is being given before true reforms take place, as it ensures a mass exodus of Albanians fed up with corruption and stagnant poverty will leave Kosovo and never look back. Maybe Europe can tame you, or maybe you'll spread your insanity across the First World :)

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. "

I do not know of a single Kosovar citizen who thinks this. If you do, then you really do hang out with ignorant people. Maybe a change of crowd is needed

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.
(observer, 6 May 2016 10:48)

To Observer,
Where is Serbia?,In Europe and about to join European Union. She get paid to talk.As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations. The day that happens,Bosnia will have to be divided, Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided, Croatia will have to be divided. All divided into countries,and the world will have 1 million countries,and will start with, not United,but " Divided States,and Not Great Britain, but Divided Britain.Every idiot" Joe blow" will want their house - land ,with a flag on pole as country.!!
P's Djuric is still travelling thru Kosovska Mitrovica.You changed your informed!.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"A campaign will soon start for the purpose of preventing abuse of non-visa movement, which will very soon be guaranteed to Kosovo's citizens. From this moment on, the doors are open and the day when we will all feel closer is not far," Avromopoulos said.

Yes, very needed. I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. Or claim asylum. Or get support by EU sociel systems. All is not possible, it's like a tourist visa. Working in the EU is illegal, and the stay is restricted to 90 days within 180 days or so. The people going there have to provide financial means on their own. And, let's face he truth, the majority of Kosovo citizens who live from 200-300€/month simply cannot afford traveling. So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen', with most of them being 'businessmen' in the Kosovarian meaning of the word - you know what I mean, don't you?

Amanaparts

pre 8 godina

So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen`...
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 May 2016 13:34)

Well thats always the case. I travel across Europe regularly and I havent seen much Serb Tourist to be honest. Nor Albanian, Bosnian, Rumanian etc. Actually not even Croats. Fact is, most people in the Balkans cant afford to travel as much as people in Western Europe.

The thing with Viza liberalization for Kosovo is just partially about tourism. Its also a criteria to apply for EU Membership. It`s another proof for the legitimacy of Kosovo independance and it is a positiv sign for foreign investors. I`m surprised you faild to see that.

Paul

pre 8 godina

VISA free travel can be issued to a territory as much as a state. Think of B&H. Think about the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia. Think of the borders between Albania and Kosovo.

Somebody is trying to gild a wilted lily. Hey all you Albanians in Kosovo, you want fries with that VISA free travel?

good guy

pre 8 godina

As a huge klaker, boza, roasted garbanzo beans, gently roasted and salted pumpkin seeds, roasted chestnuts and pizza connoisseur, I'm looking forward to welcoming as many Albanians as can fit in EU.

Sam D

pre 8 godina

Your not done yet. There are two conditions outstanding
. Border demarcation with Montenegro
. Reduction of crime and corruption
Both of this issues can take a long time to be satisfied by ALL parties concerned

agRONio

pre 8 godina

Good guy(gay)If Serbia had visa free travel few years ago are you telling us what your compatriots where capable of doing in Europe from your lazy experience

icj1

pre 7 godina

As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Yup, Kosovo is a country that is not a member of the United Nations, like Vatican, like Switzerland before 2002, like Serbia before 2000 and so on. Not sure what your point is, though :)

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...

Guest

pre 8 godina

@Tony a Serb in Berlin

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.

observer

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

She is just saying what she is being paid to say. Of course Kosovo is in Europe and it is part of Serbia isn't it? And as far as I know, Serbia is in Europe and a candidate for joining the EU. We just have to make sure that the non-European "elements" presently tarnishing Kosovo are taken care of...
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 6 May 2016 11:17)

Kosovo and Montenegro are price Serbia paid for its imperialist and irredentist mentality. It got a taste of its own medicine.

And yet, it seems, people don't quite realize this, because many of them still vote far right.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

I see you Serbs are bitter, and will always envy Kosovo for achieving milestone goals that were not even dreamt of just 20 years ago.
(Guest, 6 May 2016 12:46)

LOL 20 years ago? That was the same for Serbs, Romanians, Bulgarians, Macedonians, and Croats - not including those with financial means to travel, so you were all in the same boat.

But ok, I didn't know that having the possibility of travelling throughout Europe on a three-month tourist non-working visa that only the top 10% of Kosovo can afford was considered a "milestone goal", considering the award is conditional it's not abused, and I'm pretty sure thousands of Kosovo Albanians are already buying their one-way bus ticket out the there.

Like I said a few days ago, being at the bottom of the totem pole for so long makes you really aim low for victories. To be honest, I couldn't be happier this is being given before true reforms take place, as it ensures a mass exodus of Albanians fed up with corruption and stagnant poverty will leave Kosovo and never look back. Maybe Europe can tame you, or maybe you'll spread your insanity across the First World :)

Hank the Tank

pre 8 godina

Guest

Serbia is bitter! You seem to have forgotten that Serbia got visa free travel long long ago. Besides you didn't get it yet now did you. In what field are you ahead of Serbia besides organ harvesting and drug trafficking?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. "

I do not know of a single Kosovar citizen who thinks this. If you do, then you really do hang out with ignorant people. Maybe a change of crowd is needed

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Kosovo is Europe and that what we are doing is the European integration of Kosovo." Mogherini said. Got it!!! She didn't say 'Kosovo is Serbia'. In other words, there is no support for your redicules claims within the EU.
(observer, 6 May 2016 10:48)

To Observer,
Where is Serbia?,In Europe and about to join European Union. She get paid to talk.As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations. The day that happens,Bosnia will have to be divided, Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided, Croatia will have to be divided. All divided into countries,and the world will have 1 million countries,and will start with, not United,but " Divided States,and Not Great Britain, but Divided Britain.Every idiot" Joe blow" will want their house - land ,with a flag on pole as country.!!
P's Djuric is still travelling thru Kosovska Mitrovica.You changed your informed!.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Not sure this doom scenario of Montenegro splitting, and Albania... !

Bosnia I assume will split one day but nothing wrong with that, I see no form or shape where Kosovo can be a part of Serbia without war and not just regional war but a WW, but stranger things have happened.

After split of Othoman empire borderes were not drawn with population in mind but on the map in some room far away, hence the issues today. Like it or not Kosovo is moving on its own and all Vucic had to say was oh they will pas through Serbia and leave $$$ in Serbia.

Serbia got Visa free not long ago and people were jumping for joy, Serbs in North with Serbian passports wont be able to travel to EU visa free hence their choice what they like.

By the way your comparison of Kosovo with North cypress is being disproven every day, where their passport is only accepted by Turkey Kosovo travelling visa free to Schengen zone big big difference, next week FIFA cheers. Oh on scotland being in Ueffa and FIFA they are not part of IOC so they still part of UK but Kosovo will be fighting for Gold in Judo :)

Amanaparts

pre 8 godina

So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen`...
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 May 2016 13:34)

Well thats always the case. I travel across Europe regularly and I havent seen much Serb Tourist to be honest. Nor Albanian, Bosnian, Rumanian etc. Actually not even Croats. Fact is, most people in the Balkans cant afford to travel as much as people in Western Europe.

The thing with Viza liberalization for Kosovo is just partially about tourism. Its also a criteria to apply for EU Membership. It`s another proof for the legitimacy of Kosovo independance and it is a positiv sign for foreign investors. I`m surprised you faild to see that.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...Montenegro will have to be divided, Albania (South - Greece) will have to be divided...

Can you explain me how South Albania where 98% of population are Ethnic Albanians will go to Greece?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"A campaign will soon start for the purpose of preventing abuse of non-visa movement, which will very soon be guaranteed to Kosovo's citizens. From this moment on, the doors are open and the day when we will all feel closer is not far," Avromopoulos said.

Yes, very needed. I think a lot of the proud Kosovar citizens think that visa free travel to Europe means they can go, work and settle there. Or claim asylum. Or get support by EU sociel systems. All is not possible, it's like a tourist visa. Working in the EU is illegal, and the stay is restricted to 90 days within 180 days or so. The people going there have to provide financial means on their own. And, let's face he truth, the majority of Kosovo citizens who live from 200-300€/month simply cannot afford traveling. So it's only for the, well, upper class, i.e. the people connected to the ruling clans whom either get salaries from state budged or are 'businessmen', with most of them being 'businessmen' in the Kosovarian meaning of the word - you know what I mean, don't you?

Paul

pre 8 godina

VISA free travel can be issued to a territory as much as a state. Think of B&H. Think about the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia. Think of the borders between Albania and Kosovo.

Somebody is trying to gild a wilted lily. Hey all you Albanians in Kosovo, you want fries with that VISA free travel?

good guy

pre 8 godina

As a huge klaker, boza, roasted garbanzo beans, gently roasted and salted pumpkin seeds, roasted chestnuts and pizza connoisseur, I'm looking forward to welcoming as many Albanians as can fit in EU.

agRONio

pre 8 godina

Good guy(gay)If Serbia had visa free travel few years ago are you telling us what your compatriots where capable of doing in Europe from your lazy experience

Sam D

pre 8 godina

Your not done yet. There are two conditions outstanding
. Border demarcation with Montenegro
. Reduction of crime and corruption
Both of this issues can take a long time to be satisfied by ALL parties concerned

icj1

pre 7 godina

As,the world looks at it,Kosovo is not a country in United Nations.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 6 May 2016 13:06)

Yup, Kosovo is a country that is not a member of the United Nations, like Vatican, like Switzerland before 2002, like Serbia before 2000 and so on. Not sure what your point is, though :)