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Tuesday, 03.05.2016.

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UEFA votes to admit Kosovo without changing its statute

Kosovo has been admitted to UEFA in a secret vote, receiving a simple majority of 28 in favor, with 24 against, and two abstentions.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 8 May 2016 16:58) Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

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You obviously didn't read assigned reading on the The Law on Single Electoral Roll that entered into force in Serbia in December 2011.

If you could read, you would have learned that the municipal governments, and not the Serbian government, manage voter registration. A permanent voter registration list is maintained by the municipal governments based on permanent residence and citizenship. It's the voters responsibility to ensure the data is entered and accurate. The municipal/town administrations maintain a permanent electronic database of this voter information. The municipal electronic data is used in the "single electoral Roll" during voting processes in Serbia.

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07)
Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

But, anyway, don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes in Serbia. You should see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws haha
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Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Well, the USA laws that require citizens to register themselves in the electoral roll do not apply in Serbia. Serbian law applies in Serbia and Serbian law requires the government to register persons with the right to vote in the electoral roll.

mattko

pre 7 godina

UEFA is a private association that operates on the principle of profit as well as all other private companies and joint stock companies . If it were not so there would be no progress and new profits. Who does not like you may join the multitude of non-profit organizations , instead of grieving and going on about some sort of injustice . Evidence that according to the principles of justice no progress is Darwin's theory of evolution. Nobody protested when the snake swallowed a frog and then come Mongoose to ask whether the snake is ready to serve for his next meal. So it goes , justice is always one-sided and imaginary , survive those who know how not to be eaten , or are at least willing to learn

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:18) that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

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Now, now little icj1. You haven't even grasped the difference between a census roll and a voter registration list.
We'll get to the large chapter on "Failed States" after we cover the chapters on CIA overt and cover actions.
Please do have that diaper changed.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07) Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

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Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

In many democracies, individual citizens have a choice as to whether they wish to register and vote. Citizens who choose not to register are not placed on the voter registry. The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry. A similar process works in many other countries. Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03) Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

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Most readers of this site are indeed striving for this goal. Our fellow citizens and emigrants of Albanian descent have generously dedicated 100s if not 1000s of hours and days of their lives glued to this site in unending discourse with fellow Yugoslavs. Even the bigots spend more time writing on this site, instead being cocooned in their decrepit fenced-in myopic world. The comment section of B92 and the diverse and colorful discourse is testimony that a unified multiethnic country exists in the spirit of all who contribute.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 16:58)

Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.
(Big Texas Burger, 6 May 2016 21:09)

that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

icj1

pre 7 godina

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?
(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03)

When Kosovo was not under Serbia it did better or, at least, that's what Kosovo thinks, and that's all that matters, not what me or you thinks.

As for the reason why Kosovo does not see autonomy within Serbia as serving Kosovo well, just take a look at the comments of the most patriotic of Serbs in these forums to understand why!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33) Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

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Thank you for your crude and transparent comment. You, in fact, confess that your bigoted apartheid philosophy and drive for ethnic separation had nothing to do with the wars of the 1990s.
Your comment should also be directed to icj1. It was icj1 who falsely complained Serbia denied KiM citizens the right to vote. You may wish to share your common bigotry and perhaps come to an agreement on who actually segregated the population of KiM into a decrepit fenced-in ghetto.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum. (Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33)"

There is much unnecessary hatred between Serbs and Albanians.

Has Kosovo under Taqi's rule been a great success for its Albanian inhabitants? Why are there so many that want to flee with one bag on their back to Germany?

Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

Albanians can have broad autonomy to take care of their own education/language/culture, but do they think that Kosovo can prosper in today's world, given all the problems there are?

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?

This is not to excuse or downplay the discrimination against them in Yugoslavia (by all its other constituent people). It was not deserved, and the focus should have been on unity, but what can we do about that now? Now, we must sink separately, or swim together. The rest of the world is moving.

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia..."

Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)"

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.

Albanians can make a good contribution to Serbian society and Kosovo's footballers have a welcoming home in the Serbian FA and national team.

Serbs and Albanians, and all other minorities, can coexist peacefully in the one state as long as they all respect the law of the land.

j

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)

Sure it has prevented Albanian's from voting. It purged them from the voting list when the Serb Constitution was voted; the highest law of the Serbian state. Get this. It only purged Kosova Albanians, not Kosova Serbs. Even better, this was at a time when negotiations were going on the status of Kosova. To make things better Serbia had agreed prior to these negotiations that no side was going to unilaterally take any steps with regards to the status. Guess what the "new" Serb constitution was about? Claiming Kosova to be a part of Serbia. This, when this issue was being negotiated, where Albanians weren't allowed to vote for their own status, when Serbia had agreed not take any unilateral steps as with regards to the status. The violations are midnboggling for a republic claiming to be democratic. Only after this constitution was enacted, without Kosova Albanian representation, was independence declared.

Reader

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
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The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.

Please see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway,

cen·sus
ˈsensəs/
noun
an official count or survey of a population, typically recording various details of individuals.

Citizenship
noun cit·i·zen·ship \ˈsi-tə-zən-ˌship\
The status of a citizen with its attendant duties, rights, and privileges.

voter registration (ˈvəʊtə ˌrɛdʒɪˈstreɪʃən)
noun
the requirement of citizens to become registered in order to vote ⇒ There are unexpectedly low rates of voter registration in some districts.

If you need more help with your English comprehension and logical reasoning don't be embarrassed to ask again. We're here to help the mentally challenged.

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link].
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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway, according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia. Serbia's governmemt considered only 106094 adults in Kosovo to fulfill that condition. I totally agree with you that there must be more sane adult citizens of Serbia residing in KiM but unfortunately Serbia's government disagrees. It looks like your lesson of the day was not that convicing for Serbia's government :) give it another try haha

Aleks

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05)

All of Kosovo's legal Albanian inhabitants are welcome in Serbia as its citizens and must enjoy equal rights as every other citizen.

If a citizen in Serbia can provide legitimate residency permits then they are entitled to vote. If they are illegal immigrants then it is a different case. The USA has a similar problem.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link]. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.

Ashtu de

pre 7 godina

@ Royal Highness

You are a simple man. You don't need too much to be impressed. Mahh..
You think that you are superior to the women? Women are not made just to cook.
I think, ( j ) is a man, by the way.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!
(icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=04&dd=24&nav_id=97791. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.
(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47)

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34)

Why did you specify Serbian?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 16:31)

Because it was Serbian leaders who ruled Kosovo prior to 1999... However, Serbian leaders are not the same thing as leaders of Serbian ethnicity so I'm not sure why you want to bring ethnicity into the discussion :)

Royal Highness

pre 7 godina

"I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right. (Andrew Catterton, 5 May 2016 17:59)"

Your English is very bad so it is hard to understand what you are trying to say, but let us assume you are bringing into this conversation on Kosovo's football association being narrowly voted into membership of UEFA your mentioning of a completely different country and also a shallow personal understanding of the history of the Balkans.

In such a case, the response would be that Crimea has nothing to do with UEFA membership, and, you also need to read up on your history of the Balkans whereupon you will discover that they have a bloody history and that no people in the Balkans have suffered more than the Serbs over their history.

Armed with this information, you refrain from posting ignorant opinions lest you embarrass yourself. You go home and cook a nice coq au vin to impress your boyfriend.

Andrew Catterton

pre 7 godina

I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right.

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!! (icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)"

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.

Crooked women with ginormous cankles

pre 7 godina

A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 May 2016 01:58)

If that's true, then poor Melania is cursed.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34).

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Why did you specify Serbian? Your associations are as convoluted as your use of double comparative terns, such as "less worse".
Not only are you a Reader who can't read, you're also commentator who apparently can't write.

icj1

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

It's amusing to see Serbs hoping that Trump give them a land that they couldn't make theirs in a 100 years!
Hey dummies, did you not know that Trump is an old friend of Pacolli? This is what is going to happen the first thing when Trump comes to power: We will build a big, beautiful, magnificent wall in the border of Kosova with Serbia, and Vucica is going to pay for it. Not only that, but he will wear his most beautiful dress and dance in front of the wall when it's done.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47) Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

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In the English language, "worse" is the comparative form of the adjective "bad" and means "more bad".

icj1's ungrammatical double comparative "less worse" literally translates to "less more bad".

By your convoluted logic, a reader may agree that one dysfunctional leader is "less more bad" than another.

However, dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity; unless you are demented apartheid bigot.

J

pre 7 godina

I want to thank all the Serbs here who hate Albanians. It's a daily reminder of the mass hysteria and xenophobia emenating from the Serbs and Serbia. And all this nonsense and hate is coming to light because of football. The only thing missing at this moment is for them to repeat the chants :" Kill Albanians, Kill Albanians ", Bishop Irenjej to once again declare holy war on Albanians, and for Nikolic to applaud them.

Every month something happens and Serbs remove any doubts of their deep hate and xenophobia against Albanians. Thank you for reminding me of this and removing the veneer of moderation and exposing all your hate hidden under your constant bull$h!t and nonsense. All because of a football game. Every month the Serbs renew my belief that human stupidity knows no bounds. Look at all the hate in the comments below; all because they want to stop football games from happening. This is pretty high up there on the stupidity level.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'.
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 02:24)

Sure, if that makes you happy, especially since I recon it's a terrible week for you. Btw, you should also set a reminder for yourself to write the above every 4 years when the US votes for president so that you can receive a dose of happiness every 4 years, at least!
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Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

Not sure what that has to do with UEFA voting to admit Kosovo... but anyway, you are confusing becoming a candidate for president for the Republican Party with the US presidency :) The Republicans who voted for Trump have forgotten that the main purpose of the primaries is to select somebody who can win the US presidential election and do what they need, not somebody who is the best at telling them what they want to hear, regardless of how unfeasible or crazy it is lol

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 19:12)

Dragan,
Trump's wife is not Serbian, therefore, she most likely hates Serbs after having lived in the Former Yugoslavia. A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.

Crooked woman in a pantsuit.

pre 7 godina

BTW the independence of Kosovo* is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 22:26)

Dude, y'all are not independent. Every politcian and their favorite goat in Kosova* knows that except you.
BTW, The most secular people on the planet live in San Francisco, California. You Albanians might could be second, I'm not sure.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
....
(P.S. Y'all are not independent., 4 May 2016 17:25)

I wish he can kill all those 1000 scums who btw are not Albanian anymore, since they burned the passports of republic of Kosovo.

So, for 1000 scums you think that Trump will penalize the rest of Albanians?
I don't think so.

Do you know that Albanians are the most secular people in the planet?
Probably you don't and I am not expecting you to know this since 24/7 you listen to Sesejl and Irenej.
Unlike in you where Irenej is President and Prime minister, in Albania religion is separate from the government.

If Albanians would have been religious fanatics they wouldn't have elected regularly Christians for prime ministers and presidents, since 1920s until today.
Edi Rama is Christian do you know this?
I am sure you don't know that because to you every Albanian is Muslim=terrorist.

When was the last time that Serbia had a Muslim Serb for president or prime minister? Never I guess..
And I mean Serbia not Yugoslavia during 1944-1990.

BTW the independence of Kosovo is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's
(Reader, 4 May 2016 18:23)

Like Albanian "loose" wives?

Dragan

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!

Reader

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's

P.S. Y'all are not independent.

pre 7 godina

Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

What's your definition of independent???

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
who fought abroad and came back to Europe. Trump sees NATO as a partner who is not willing to go all out in defeating ISIS because of their own Muslim problems and appeasing liberal policies. He sees Putin as a potential willing partner in destroying ISIS because it would benefit
both. Trump views NATO as a relic of the past that served
its purpose. He agrees that it was a wonderful organization for the times past, but now he deems it as an impediment for the US moving forward.

Trump will try to work with Russia on many fronts for the benefit of both countries, but if Putin
continues to play his acrobatic games over the US ships and challenges The Donald's ego, Putin will get a "bloody nose" and all bets will be off the table.
With Putin or without Putin, unlike the previous US presidents, Trump will require you Albanians
to arrest your own family and clan members. And if y'all don't and you continue to play
the same old deceptive games as y'all have been playing until now, then y'all will be Trumped.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago,
P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

I have news for your genius, Milania comes from a pro Yugoslav family and very close to the Serbs, yes her background is Slovenian. Trump holds no allegiance with the Republican or Democratic hawks or lobbies that support them, watch and learn. As for Obama, his "close ties" with Chicago Serbs was purely for votes, it's obvious his foreign policy was very favorable to Islamic Muslims. That is going to change , Trumps foreign policy views are much different than both the Democrats and so called Conservative republicans. That being said, he will face resistance in the Congress and Senate where these crooks continue to collect money from lobby groups to advance national and international political agenda's. The days of Dole, Lugar and others collecting blood money from Albanian pimps, drug runner lobby groups is over.

I extend an apology to all the Serbs for the error of American policy, primarily Clinton’s. We need allies in fight against Islamic terrorism who have combat experience fighting this evil - and that in Europe are the Russians and the Serbs.http://newswatchreport.com/item/228551_donald-trump-it-was-a-great-mistake-to-bomb-the-serbs-who-were-our-allies-in-both-world-wars

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)
PS I have been to Slovenia and there are many Serbs there. In fact the Slovenians dislike Croats while Albanians are even further down on the totem pole. They see Albanians as scavengers.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived... (Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)...

I have news for you because you look like you have no idea of American politics.
The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago, but regarding Kosovo, his presidency continued the predecessor as G.W. Bush, continued what Clinton did and so on.
Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!

Rusty Trombone

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars. (Rebeli, 3 May 2016 21:48)"

This is known in English as a "straw man": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

The comment you are responding to frightens you so you must obfuscate.

Kosovo's children can indeed play football -- local, continental, international -- without any issue under the flag of Serbia.

Free

pre 7 godina

God how stupid all this looks:

First there is an Agreement signed by Serbian Government were they commmit not to obstruct Kosovo`s membership in International Institutions.

Then they fight fiercely lobbying against Kosovo membership in International Institutions.

When they win, they declare it a Political Win against political status of Kosovo.

When they lose "that has nothing to do with Kosovo political status".

Cut the cr~p! We all know what`s going on.

US and Russia (then USSR) gave Serbia Kosovo not because "Serbia won WWI" (thats what Serbs want to believe), and certainly not because "Kosovo is cradle of Serbia".

US and Russia gave you Kosovo simply because it was in their best interest.

And now US and Russia took Kosovo away from you simply because it is in their best interest.

All these "Russia backs Serbs" and "US backs Albanians" is just a show.

Russia has got Crimea, and let Kosovo go.

Which means all those wars, all those victims, all these "quarrels" were/are really STUPID!

They just show how primitive the Serbs and Albanians are! They fight and kill eacho other for some decisions that are already decided by someone else far away long ago.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 23:36) Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better.

---

Tomorrow has arrived.
How I feel or what I agree to, is irrelevant to the following hard facts:
Impoverished residents of KiM still require visa for travel to EU countries.
Gravity is still a law of nature.
KiM is still a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto led by dysfunctional leaders.

ida

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars."

You are ignoring the KLA which started the killings, and the fact that non-Albanian children have been driven from their homes in Kosovo, which is in a state of Apartheid for the non-Albanians.
Albanians are effectively given two states.

Dragan

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'. He will also make friends with Russia and Serbia, just watch and see. He has the vision, and he has the guts. We look forward to it :) .
Cheers!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

Mark

pre 7 godina

Whats the point? There'll be no people left in Kosovo in a few years time. They're already all fleeing their albanian paradise of Kosovo to western europe.

icj1

pre 7 godina

UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.
(Duh, 3 May 2016 21:41)

Yup! So I don't really get it why Serbia's government is up in arms! UEFA supported Serbia's position and this was a great victory for Serbia, like always.

Brian

pre 7 godina

There seems to be a lot of people who don't know Serbia didnt vote against Kosovo being in the Olympics and Serbia will participate along with Kosovo as equally independent and sovereign nations in Rio. It must be noted that this is not in any way controversial in Serbia. If Serbia didnt want to compete against Kosovo it would have quit the Olympics. But it isn't because no serbian athletes oppose competing against Kosovo athletes. There is not report of any Serbian football player announcing they won't play against Kosovo. Obviously Serbia signed brussels and became a leader in kosovo independence.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity. 

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders."

Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better

rote

pre 7 godina

Proud albanian : Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

Most likely Shqiptars were part of the same Slavic Horde that twice colonized Europe. First in 1318-1345 by Genghis Khan aka Georgy Danilovic aka St. George and by his younger brother Batu Khan aka Vatican aka Ivan Danilovic aka Prester John.

Second invasion started soon after 1415 when the civil war in the Horde came to an end. During the war (1370-1415) many vassals and some of the Horde’s gauleiters put to watch after the colonies lost discipline. Besides there was a split between the descendants of the mentioned brothers Georgy who ruled Constantinople and those of Ivan who ruled mainland Tartaria/Horde.

So Rus/Bulgars/Serbs/Croats/Bosniaks/ Macedonians /Caucasians and their allies moved to the Balkans and by 1453 cleaned it here. Under the Russian Tver Kniaz/Khan Mehmet II aka Prophet Mohammad (may Allah keeps Him in peace) they captured Constantinople naming it Stan Bulgar i.e. Place of the Bulgars/Volgars.

The saddest story started in 1485 when severe Bubonic plague epidemic took away millions of people in South and West of Europe. The Horde found had to clean territories of Britain, Spain, France, Italy, part of Balkans ect. Special Cossack expedition was sent there to kill all. Lands were granted to the noble men of the Horde. I suppose that all current peoples of the Balkans arrived there after 1485 including the Shqiptars.

The Driver

pre 7 godina

Now it the Albanians turn to be thrown a bone. This is a meaningless gesture; the Anglo/Western Northern Europeans think that people in the Balkans are alive to serve them and their needs. They throw us Serbs bones once in awhile thinking that we will be good doggies and fetch for them but Serbs don’t like being someone’s pet. Why do Albanians think that they actually give a damn? Why are you so satisfied with a pat on the head while you sleep outside in the cold and eat their leftovers? Kosovo will never be a viable state but now you have a football team, yeah for you!

Rebeli

pre 7 godina

"The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles."

Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars.

Duh

pre 7 godina

I see Albanians are trying to spin the story to show Kosovo* isn't like any other territories that has UEFA membership. But according to the statues, members are based on UN sovereign states, so logic would dictate that those other members are parts of an existing UN member state. Since some Albanians here recognize Kosovo doesn't have UN membership, the only logic left is that it was admitted as a territory, like Gibraltar. What they think doesn't matter. It's what UEFA rationalized, and UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.

Everyone wins. Albanians in Kosovo* get to play, and Kosovo* is grouped with other non-state members. There's no other way for delusional clueless Albanians spin this story.

Free

pre 7 godina

Now Kosovo has a big challenge: Euro 2020 Finals.

Of course, with "only Albanians" team there are zero chances, but with some Serbian "reinforcements" it is very possible.

Who will be the first Serbian to become "Traitor of the Past" and "Hero of the Future"?

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Serbia was almost able..." Nice epitaph for Serbia that Ari Gold, almost able. In football terms this would be what, taking the game to extra time and then losing anyway? as for this: "I dont care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament" I disagree, i want Serbia to play Kosovo for two reasons; one to hear the national anthem of Kosovo in the middle of Belgrade as protocol dictates, just to annoy the nationalists in Serbia and two, 6 easy points for hoy Kosmet, due to the heavenly team refusing to play

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 16:59) p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow.

---

Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity.

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

jimmyjimmer: "Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years."

The average age of Albanians in Kosova is 26 and the average age of Serbs is 75. In 20 years, most of the Serbs in Kosova won't be around anymore.

Furthermore, there is a extreme shortage of fertile females in Toplica and Jabllanica, and a lot of local males have married Albanian girls. In 20 years time there will be a whole generation in Southern Serbia whose mother tongue will be Albanian.

It is most likely that in 20 years, it will be Prishtina piledriving freedom back to Nish, than the other way around.

the truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)
(the actual truth, 3 May 2016 17:07)

ej fellow, kudos to you. You actually beat b92 on tomorrows events, but you are wrong on your assumption what will happen one year from now!?
I am having a filed day with you guys, keep up the good work !!!

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

24 countries voted against and yet 5 countries from the EU don't recognize Pristina institutions. 2 abstained. But even when you count Russia's vote, and Belarus... Serbia was almost able to get it close to an even split in a European institution. There is a trend here, in UNESCO countries which have previously "recognized kosovo" sided against it when it came to voting for important issues. And now we see that at least a handful of European countries which have previously given their diplomatic support are in various ways pulling it back.

See your victory came after the Brussels Agreement was used as grounds to unilaterally give Pristina institutions a spot in the Olympics. I'm surprised UEFA didn't come sooner. But Israel has to deal with a similar annoyance, and clearly there are already non-countries participating.

I don't care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament. Best of luck.

Natasa Kanbic

pre 7 godina

This Kosovo/UEFA issue is not about "Kosovo's children being allowed to play football or not" as the Kosovo Albanian representative at the congress stated with such pathos.

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.

So that is the key issue at stake here - not whether the children in Kosovo "can play football" but whether an international organisation implicitly takes a position on a political question (that is, Kosovo's potential status as a sovereign state able to enter into agreements and treaties independent of any other state).

As it is, the political decision has today been made by UEFA. How the repercussions are felt across Europe and the broader world over time remains to be seen but they are bound to be problematic and ultimately counterproductive to UEFA's and sport's mission to be a conciliatory and unifying vehicle.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)"

so its all right then, we'll get to move to Germany, you'll get to talk about it. difference being, you no longer will get to write, you're all fenced in and isolated. p.s. will you switch off your TV set when Kosova's national football team, however bad it is, plays or will you be cheering them on?

Proud albanian

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is albanian never is going to be Serbia wake up serbian people. It never was. Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

rote

pre 7 godina

I am happy about the Shqips’ success ! It’s a result of the last voting and there will be many more. Middle-of-the-road politics was good for Tito but today there’s no non-alignment movement and Serbia is not Yugoslavia. Sitting on two chairs is dangerous for you today because it smells bad and because you need two asses ad hoq. Some people call it prostitution and it was the last thing Russians expected from the Serbs. We became prisoners of our imagination believing that Serbs move homeward. But the last voting was a cold shower for many in Russia including myself. Now each time they twist your hands please address to Brussels (B-Russel). UEFA is just the first slap. With what face Serbia is going to ask Russia’s assistance next time after such voting? Vucic&Co is just a reincarnation of Otpor under adopted rhetoric. Wasn’t it clear a week ago? The USA is trying to split you with Russia as you know. Guess which of us will survive and who will suck like all your neighbors already do? It was a great shock for the West when during Napoleon wars our 4-th army under Hilchagov (traitor who flew to London) spoke the same language as the Serbs and the Bulgarians. So they reformed all 3 languages to increase the distance. Bastard sellouts like Karadzic did the job. And it’s been 200 years now that they step by step tear us apart. UEFA is just peanuts compared to what I say.

j

pre 7 godina

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go



-- And?......

the truth

pre 7 godina

What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: [link]
(Therret Prizreni, 3 May 2016 17:03) # Comment link

I have written many times about Majlinda and specially when decision/order that came from Putin himself in last minutes before the tournament began, but I did not have a single response from serb pc warriors. No Serb media has ever reported the gold medal even in World Championship in Chelyabinsk,Russia,and wonder WHY? I suggest all Serbs warriors should watch your link and at least make a stupid comment, as usual.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

(ned taylor, 3 May 2016 16:25)

NO problem. UEFA or any other Sport Organization has already had this problem many times in the past. Judo Championship in Russia was also held with Kosovo National Flag and Anthem.

Watch the ceremony in Kazan just a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

If any team refuses to play against Kosovo or blocks Kosovo official Anthem, Flag or Banners they lose 3 points. High risk games can be played on neutral ground, without fans etc. Long story short. FIFA and UEFA react very harsh if politics interfere with sports. Remember Governement of Nigeria vs. FIFA beef during WorldCup Southafrica?!

Free

pre 7 godina

Now i feel like the Germans used to feel till `89: Having two national teams.

First, UEFA and FIFA will make sure there will be no match Serbia vs Kosovo/Albania.

Second, if any national team will refuse to play against Kosovo they will be sanctioned with a forfeit, which means Kosovo wins the game by 3:0.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

the actual truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)

LOL

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .
(Meti, 3 May 2016 16:36)

You've spent generations suffering and sacrificing to be admitted into a regional football club?

Man, you people aim low :)

Uli

pre 7 godina

I know it does hurt a lot for Serbs but it is the logical thing to do.I knew Kosovo was going to join when they let Gilbartar to get in . Wells is in, Scotland, Northern Ireland and why not Kosovo? That was discriminating them Platini saved Serbia for a long time but nothing is permanent my friend. Would like to see Kosovo join Albanian League soon.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"The question is where these teams (from Kosovo) would play, how those countries that have not recognized Kosovo would welcome them, what protocol would be applied, and there is also the issue of the safety and security at the stadiums in Kosovo, which have not undergone the usual licensing procedure,"

how nice of Serbia's delegate to have these concerns about Kosovo's stadiums. never knew they had us so close to heart

jimmyjimmer

pre 7 godina

Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged."

...but you wish we didn't have this diversion either. so salut! p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ Croatian
I bet you will lose!
Looked at Germany, Suisse, Belgium and of course Albania,…etc , where Albanians from Kosovo play with.
This generation of Albanians in Kosovo impress me. Are Super Talented!
Love them all – no matter if they choose to play with Kosovo or Albania – we are one nation. Love you all!

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

This decision is all well and good in principle, but it isn't just a problem of what happens when Kosovo are drawn to face Serbia, there are 5 EU members who do not recognise Kosovo's independence and UEFA are not in a position to force the governments of these countries to effectively recognise this independence by allowing their national teams to compete against them. I wonder how the Olympics will proceed this year if a Spanish boxer has to face a Kosovan one; will the government step in and force him to concede the fight? As an immigration officer 25 years ago I was not allowed to stamp a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus passport as this would have constituted recognition of that country by the UK. This decision will open up a whole hornet's nest and needed consultation with the national governments before a vote was held. The level of opposition is a good indication of the trouble ahead; the motion squeaked through and there are now many unhappy national associations. UEFA may well have caused an existential crisis. I have no sympathy with Serbia in this matter and had they been the only country opposing this move it would have been sensible to proceed but 24 countries voted against; almost half. Of course a simple majority means that in theory everything was legitimate but this is far from a simple matter.

Meti

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .

the truth

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.
(Azem, 3 May 2016 14:38) #


Right on, they always spin it to their liking. If results were the opposite, you will read totally different comments from Serb pc warriors. The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Congratulation Kosovo!

I can not believe that Serbs in this site trying to make this looks like a bad thing for Kosovo.

Serbian Federation and her allies voted NO.

Albania Federation and her allies voted YES.
The result is Kosovo is the full member of UEFA.
Kosovo is the 55th member of UEFA.

It looks Serbia has success blocking in a case such as UNESCO where Kosovo needs 2/3 of the votes pro and Serbia can get a little bit more than 1/3 to block Kosovo.
But when it requires 50%+1 vote, Serbia has no chance to block Kosovo.

As an Albanian I am not happy to have two national teams, but as far as I know Albania and Kosovo federation have agreed that the players who have no chance to play with Albania, they can go and play with Kosovo.

Next week Kosovo will become full FIFA member.

Florend

pre 7 godina

Go Kosova. The Ghetto, in which Kosovo's football was unjustly under for over 8 years since its independence, is over. The nation with largest young generation in Europe can now prospect and show the world its footballing talents. Many talented football players in Europe are of Kosovar descent but due to political circumstances they were forced to play for other countries. New talents can now represent their own country. Today, the sport has won over politics. Kosova will always be grateful to UEFA Members who voted for Kosovo. At the same time we hope that we will prove that members who voted against Kosovo were wrong to do so, as our teams will be worthy of UEFA competitions in future. Congratulations to all football fans in Kosova and in Europe as the further diversity of football can only be a good thing.

Demi

pre 7 godina

This is nothing against Serbia and Serbs. Kosova as Serbian as much as Slovenia is Serbian.

The people of Kosova has choosen the right to be free. We dont want anything to do with Serbia respect that!

Cedomir Jovanodic

pre 7 godina

Andy UK - how does Kosovo differ from Wales/Scotland/NorthernIreland...?

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go

eric

pre 7 godina

All i see is Kosova progressing eveytime, really, it is a young Albanian state and for the effort and hard work is all paying off.

We love the dardanian state

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't?"

In that event, depending on whether its a friendly or not, UEFA will deduct Serbia 3 points. Easy does it

Navi

pre 7 godina

Nothing unusual about admitting non-states to UEFA. Members include regional territories like Gibraltar, Faroe Islands, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Kosovo is just another territory and with no changes to UEFA statues as Albanians wanted, membership status only affirms what Kosovo is: a non-country.

Azem

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.

Fluid

pre 7 godina

Congratulations! It's been way to long. UEFA just proved that it will not allow politics to kill soccer dreams of the Kosovo's children. Bravo!

F$#CK U UEFA & FIFA

pre 7 godina

Can you change the rules during a game? No! Can you change the rules during an election? NO! ONLY FIFA and all its subsidiaries, like UEFA, seem to to be able to do whatever they want. FIFA & UEFA are corrupt (proven) and lack moral standards. Shameful!

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

LOL! Another European precedent that is absolutely not a precedent and will absolutely not boomerang back against UEFA.

Not a single lesson learned by Europe who as usual ignores its own rules when it applies to itself but demands others stick to the letter of the law. Retards!

What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't? What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? Sanction Serbia when Kosovo* was illegally allowed to join UEFA against its own rules? Get ready for another great European circus.

Commentator

pre 7 godina

Well, in case the WC2018 will happen in Russia, we can be relieved that Russia has already experience in raising the Kosovo flag and saluting to it..

havingaparty

pre 7 godina

Kosovo will soon become a powerhouse of the Balkans. the mount of talents especially in western Europe is ridiculous and this will surely influence on the team. Immediately the group against croatia, iceland, turkey and russia (no points) is very tough.
#congrats

Blind Prophet

pre 7 godina

UK having national teams for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?
(Andy UK, 3 May 2016 13:54)

Andy if Kosovo did not get in this would be talked as great win for Serbia Maybe 6:0....

Also Walse, Scotland have the right to referendum, just like any marriage people have the right to divorce if its not working. A referendum in Kosovo in 1990 showed what majority wants.

Back to Sport, this is ideal for the athletes they get to compete apart from politics and represent their country. FIFA next step at a time.

Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in Russia and the national anthem got played in Russia in front of Russian soldiers cheers.

Josh

pre 7 godina

WELCOME KOSOVO TO UEFA. Sorry Serbia. this is another failure of yours to prevent Kosovo from joining UEFA body. Next week Kosovo will be member of FIFA.....

Josh

pre 7 godina

WELCOME KOSOVO TO UEFA. Sorry Serbia. this is another failure of yours to prevent Kosovo from joining UEFA body. Next week Kosovo will be member of FIFA.....

Fluid

pre 7 godina

Congratulations! It's been way to long. UEFA just proved that it will not allow politics to kill soccer dreams of the Kosovo's children. Bravo!

Blind Prophet

pre 7 godina

UK having national teams for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?
(Andy UK, 3 May 2016 13:54)

Andy if Kosovo did not get in this would be talked as great win for Serbia Maybe 6:0....

Also Walse, Scotland have the right to referendum, just like any marriage people have the right to divorce if its not working. A referendum in Kosovo in 1990 showed what majority wants.

Back to Sport, this is ideal for the athletes they get to compete apart from politics and represent their country. FIFA next step at a time.

Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in Russia and the national anthem got played in Russia in front of Russian soldiers cheers.

Commentator

pre 7 godina

Well, in case the WC2018 will happen in Russia, we can be relieved that Russia has already experience in raising the Kosovo flag and saluting to it..

Azem

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.

F$#CK U UEFA & FIFA

pre 7 godina

Can you change the rules during a game? No! Can you change the rules during an election? NO! ONLY FIFA and all its subsidiaries, like UEFA, seem to to be able to do whatever they want. FIFA & UEFA are corrupt (proven) and lack moral standards. Shameful!

Demi

pre 7 godina

This is nothing against Serbia and Serbs. Kosova as Serbian as much as Slovenia is Serbian.

The people of Kosova has choosen the right to be free. We dont want anything to do with Serbia respect that!

eric

pre 7 godina

All i see is Kosova progressing eveytime, really, it is a young Albanian state and for the effort and hard work is all paying off.

We love the dardanian state

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Congratulation Kosovo!

I can not believe that Serbs in this site trying to make this looks like a bad thing for Kosovo.

Serbian Federation and her allies voted NO.

Albania Federation and her allies voted YES.
The result is Kosovo is the full member of UEFA.
Kosovo is the 55th member of UEFA.

It looks Serbia has success blocking in a case such as UNESCO where Kosovo needs 2/3 of the votes pro and Serbia can get a little bit more than 1/3 to block Kosovo.
But when it requires 50%+1 vote, Serbia has no chance to block Kosovo.

As an Albanian I am not happy to have two national teams, but as far as I know Albania and Kosovo federation have agreed that the players who have no chance to play with Albania, they can go and play with Kosovo.

Next week Kosovo will become full FIFA member.

Free

pre 7 godina

Now i feel like the Germans used to feel till `89: Having two national teams.

First, UEFA and FIFA will make sure there will be no match Serbia vs Kosovo/Albania.

Second, if any national team will refuse to play against Kosovo they will be sanctioned with a forfeit, which means Kosovo wins the game by 3:0.

havingaparty

pre 7 godina

Kosovo will soon become a powerhouse of the Balkans. the mount of talents especially in western Europe is ridiculous and this will surely influence on the team. Immediately the group against croatia, iceland, turkey and russia (no points) is very tough.
#congrats

Rebeli

pre 7 godina

"The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles."

Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars.

jimmyjimmer

pre 7 godina

Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ Croatian
I bet you will lose!
Looked at Germany, Suisse, Belgium and of course Albania,…etc , where Albanians from Kosovo play with.
This generation of Albanians in Kosovo impress me. Are Super Talented!
Love them all – no matter if they choose to play with Kosovo or Albania – we are one nation. Love you all!

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

jimmyjimmer: "Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years."

The average age of Albanians in Kosova is 26 and the average age of Serbs is 75. In 20 years, most of the Serbs in Kosova won't be around anymore.

Furthermore, there is a extreme shortage of fertile females in Toplica and Jabllanica, and a lot of local males have married Albanian girls. In 20 years time there will be a whole generation in Southern Serbia whose mother tongue will be Albanian.

It is most likely that in 20 years, it will be Prishtina piledriving freedom back to Nish, than the other way around.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't?"

In that event, depending on whether its a friendly or not, UEFA will deduct Serbia 3 points. Easy does it

Cedomir Jovanodic

pre 7 godina

Andy UK - how does Kosovo differ from Wales/Scotland/NorthernIreland...?

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

Proud albanian

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is albanian never is going to be Serbia wake up serbian people. It never was. Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

LOL! Another European precedent that is absolutely not a precedent and will absolutely not boomerang back against UEFA.

Not a single lesson learned by Europe who as usual ignores its own rules when it applies to itself but demands others stick to the letter of the law. Retards!

What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't? What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? Sanction Serbia when Kosovo* was illegally allowed to join UEFA against its own rules? Get ready for another great European circus.

Florend

pre 7 godina

Go Kosova. The Ghetto, in which Kosovo's football was unjustly under for over 8 years since its independence, is over. The nation with largest young generation in Europe can now prospect and show the world its footballing talents. Many talented football players in Europe are of Kosovar descent but due to political circumstances they were forced to play for other countries. New talents can now represent their own country. Today, the sport has won over politics. Kosova will always be grateful to UEFA Members who voted for Kosovo. At the same time we hope that we will prove that members who voted against Kosovo were wrong to do so, as our teams will be worthy of UEFA competitions in future. Congratulations to all football fans in Kosova and in Europe as the further diversity of football can only be a good thing.

the actual truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)

the truth

pre 7 godina

What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: [link]
(Therret Prizreni, 3 May 2016 17:03) # Comment link

I have written many times about Majlinda and specially when decision/order that came from Putin himself in last minutes before the tournament began, but I did not have a single response from serb pc warriors. No Serb media has ever reported the gold medal even in World Championship in Chelyabinsk,Russia,and wonder WHY? I suggest all Serbs warriors should watch your link and at least make a stupid comment, as usual.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .
(Meti, 3 May 2016 16:36)

You've spent generations suffering and sacrificing to be admitted into a regional football club?

Man, you people aim low :)

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Nothing unusual about admitting non-states to UEFA. Members include regional territories like Gibraltar, Faroe Islands, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Kosovo is just another territory and with no changes to UEFA statues as Albanians wanted, membership status only affirms what Kosovo is: a non-country.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"The question is where these teams (from Kosovo) would play, how those countries that have not recognized Kosovo would welcome them, what protocol would be applied, and there is also the issue of the safety and security at the stadiums in Kosovo, which have not undergone the usual licensing procedure,"

how nice of Serbia's delegate to have these concerns about Kosovo's stadiums. never knew they had us so close to heart

Meti

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity. 

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders."

Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better

Dragan

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'. He will also make friends with Russia and Serbia, just watch and see. He has the vision, and he has the guts. We look forward to it :) .
Cheers!!

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

This decision is all well and good in principle, but it isn't just a problem of what happens when Kosovo are drawn to face Serbia, there are 5 EU members who do not recognise Kosovo's independence and UEFA are not in a position to force the governments of these countries to effectively recognise this independence by allowing their national teams to compete against them. I wonder how the Olympics will proceed this year if a Spanish boxer has to face a Kosovan one; will the government step in and force him to concede the fight? As an immigration officer 25 years ago I was not allowed to stamp a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus passport as this would have constituted recognition of that country by the UK. This decision will open up a whole hornet's nest and needed consultation with the national governments before a vote was held. The level of opposition is a good indication of the trouble ahead; the motion squeaked through and there are now many unhappy national associations. UEFA may well have caused an existential crisis. I have no sympathy with Serbia in this matter and had they been the only country opposing this move it would have been sensible to proceed but 24 countries voted against; almost half. Of course a simple majority means that in theory everything was legitimate but this is far from a simple matter.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Serbia was almost able..." Nice epitaph for Serbia that Ari Gold, almost able. In football terms this would be what, taking the game to extra time and then losing anyway? as for this: "I dont care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament" I disagree, i want Serbia to play Kosovo for two reasons; one to hear the national anthem of Kosovo in the middle of Belgrade as protocol dictates, just to annoy the nationalists in Serbia and two, 6 easy points for hoy Kosmet, due to the heavenly team refusing to play

the truth

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.
(Azem, 3 May 2016 14:38) #


Right on, they always spin it to their liking. If results were the opposite, you will read totally different comments from Serb pc warriors. The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged."

...but you wish we didn't have this diversion either. so salut! p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow

the truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)
(the actual truth, 3 May 2016 17:07)

ej fellow, kudos to you. You actually beat b92 on tomorrows events, but you are wrong on your assumption what will happen one year from now!?
I am having a filed day with you guys, keep up the good work !!!

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago,
P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

I have news for your genius, Milania comes from a pro Yugoslav family and very close to the Serbs, yes her background is Slovenian. Trump holds no allegiance with the Republican or Democratic hawks or lobbies that support them, watch and learn. As for Obama, his "close ties" with Chicago Serbs was purely for votes, it's obvious his foreign policy was very favorable to Islamic Muslims. That is going to change , Trumps foreign policy views are much different than both the Democrats and so called Conservative republicans. That being said, he will face resistance in the Congress and Senate where these crooks continue to collect money from lobby groups to advance national and international political agenda's. The days of Dole, Lugar and others collecting blood money from Albanian pimps, drug runner lobby groups is over.

I extend an apology to all the Serbs for the error of American policy, primarily Clinton’s. We need allies in fight against Islamic terrorism who have combat experience fighting this evil - and that in Europe are the Russians and the Serbs.http://newswatchreport.com/item/228551_donald-trump-it-was-a-great-mistake-to-bomb-the-serbs-who-were-our-allies-in-both-world-wars

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

24 countries voted against and yet 5 countries from the EU don't recognize Pristina institutions. 2 abstained. But even when you count Russia's vote, and Belarus... Serbia was almost able to get it close to an even split in a European institution. There is a trend here, in UNESCO countries which have previously "recognized kosovo" sided against it when it came to voting for important issues. And now we see that at least a handful of European countries which have previously given their diplomatic support are in various ways pulling it back.

See your victory came after the Brussels Agreement was used as grounds to unilaterally give Pristina institutions a spot in the Olympics. I'm surprised UEFA didn't come sooner. But Israel has to deal with a similar annoyance, and clearly there are already non-countries participating.

I don't care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament. Best of luck.

The Driver

pre 7 godina

Now it the Albanians turn to be thrown a bone. This is a meaningless gesture; the Anglo/Western Northern Europeans think that people in the Balkans are alive to serve them and their needs. They throw us Serbs bones once in awhile thinking that we will be good doggies and fetch for them but Serbs don’t like being someone’s pet. Why do Albanians think that they actually give a damn? Why are you so satisfied with a pat on the head while you sleep outside in the cold and eat their leftovers? Kosovo will never be a viable state but now you have a football team, yeah for you!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived... (Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)...

I have news for you because you look like you have no idea of American politics.
The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago, but regarding Kosovo, his presidency continued the predecessor as G.W. Bush, continued what Clinton did and so on.
Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
....
(P.S. Y'all are not independent., 4 May 2016 17:25)

I wish he can kill all those 1000 scums who btw are not Albanian anymore, since they burned the passports of republic of Kosovo.

So, for 1000 scums you think that Trump will penalize the rest of Albanians?
I don't think so.

Do you know that Albanians are the most secular people in the planet?
Probably you don't and I am not expecting you to know this since 24/7 you listen to Sesejl and Irenej.
Unlike in you where Irenej is President and Prime minister, in Albania religion is separate from the government.

If Albanians would have been religious fanatics they wouldn't have elected regularly Christians for prime ministers and presidents, since 1920s until today.
Edi Rama is Christian do you know this?
I am sure you don't know that because to you every Albanian is Muslim=terrorist.

When was the last time that Serbia had a Muslim Serb for president or prime minister? Never I guess..
And I mean Serbia not Yugoslavia during 1944-1990.

BTW the independence of Kosovo is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!

Uli

pre 7 godina

I know it does hurt a lot for Serbs but it is the logical thing to do.I knew Kosovo was going to join when they let Gilbartar to get in . Wells is in, Scotland, Northern Ireland and why not Kosovo? That was discriminating them Platini saved Serbia for a long time but nothing is permanent my friend. Would like to see Kosovo join Albanian League soon.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

(ned taylor, 3 May 2016 16:25)

NO problem. UEFA or any other Sport Organization has already had this problem many times in the past. Judo Championship in Russia was also held with Kosovo National Flag and Anthem.

Watch the ceremony in Kazan just a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

If any team refuses to play against Kosovo or blocks Kosovo official Anthem, Flag or Banners they lose 3 points. High risk games can be played on neutral ground, without fans etc. Long story short. FIFA and UEFA react very harsh if politics interfere with sports. Remember Governement of Nigeria vs. FIFA beef during WorldCup Southafrica?!

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)"

so its all right then, we'll get to move to Germany, you'll get to talk about it. difference being, you no longer will get to write, you're all fenced in and isolated. p.s. will you switch off your TV set when Kosova's national football team, however bad it is, plays or will you be cheering them on?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 16:59) p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow.

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Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity.

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

ida

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars."

You are ignoring the KLA which started the killings, and the fact that non-Albanian children have been driven from their homes in Kosovo, which is in a state of Apartheid for the non-Albanians.
Albanians are effectively given two states.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 23:36) Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better.

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Tomorrow has arrived.
How I feel or what I agree to, is irrelevant to the following hard facts:
Impoverished residents of KiM still require visa for travel to EU countries.
Gravity is still a law of nature.
KiM is still a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto led by dysfunctional leaders.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!

Dragan

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

It's amusing to see Serbs hoping that Trump give them a land that they couldn't make theirs in a 100 years!
Hey dummies, did you not know that Trump is an old friend of Pacolli? This is what is going to happen the first thing when Trump comes to power: We will build a big, beautiful, magnificent wall in the border of Kosova with Serbia, and Vucica is going to pay for it. Not only that, but he will wear his most beautiful dress and dance in front of the wall when it's done.

Natasa Kanbic

pre 7 godina

This Kosovo/UEFA issue is not about "Kosovo's children being allowed to play football or not" as the Kosovo Albanian representative at the congress stated with such pathos.

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.

So that is the key issue at stake here - not whether the children in Kosovo "can play football" but whether an international organisation implicitly takes a position on a political question (that is, Kosovo's potential status as a sovereign state able to enter into agreements and treaties independent of any other state).

As it is, the political decision has today been made by UEFA. How the repercussions are felt across Europe and the broader world over time remains to be seen but they are bound to be problematic and ultimately counterproductive to UEFA's and sport's mission to be a conciliatory and unifying vehicle.

rote

pre 7 godina

I am happy about the Shqips’ success ! It’s a result of the last voting and there will be many more. Middle-of-the-road politics was good for Tito but today there’s no non-alignment movement and Serbia is not Yugoslavia. Sitting on two chairs is dangerous for you today because it smells bad and because you need two asses ad hoq. Some people call it prostitution and it was the last thing Russians expected from the Serbs. We became prisoners of our imagination believing that Serbs move homeward. But the last voting was a cold shower for many in Russia including myself. Now each time they twist your hands please address to Brussels (B-Russel). UEFA is just the first slap. With what face Serbia is going to ask Russia’s assistance next time after such voting? Vucic&Co is just a reincarnation of Otpor under adopted rhetoric. Wasn’t it clear a week ago? The USA is trying to split you with Russia as you know. Guess which of us will survive and who will suck like all your neighbors already do? It was a great shock for the West when during Napoleon wars our 4-th army under Hilchagov (traitor who flew to London) spoke the same language as the Serbs and the Bulgarians. So they reformed all 3 languages to increase the distance. Bastard sellouts like Karadzic did the job. And it’s been 200 years now that they step by step tear us apart. UEFA is just peanuts compared to what I say.

Mark

pre 7 godina

Whats the point? There'll be no people left in Kosovo in a few years time. They're already all fleeing their albanian paradise of Kosovo to western europe.

Free

pre 7 godina

God how stupid all this looks:

First there is an Agreement signed by Serbian Government were they commmit not to obstruct Kosovo`s membership in International Institutions.

Then they fight fiercely lobbying against Kosovo membership in International Institutions.

When they win, they declare it a Political Win against political status of Kosovo.

When they lose "that has nothing to do with Kosovo political status".

Cut the cr~p! We all know what`s going on.

US and Russia (then USSR) gave Serbia Kosovo not because "Serbia won WWI" (thats what Serbs want to believe), and certainly not because "Kosovo is cradle of Serbia".

US and Russia gave you Kosovo simply because it was in their best interest.

And now US and Russia took Kosovo away from you simply because it is in their best interest.

All these "Russia backs Serbs" and "US backs Albanians" is just a show.

Russia has got Crimea, and let Kosovo go.

Which means all those wars, all those victims, all these "quarrels" were/are really STUPID!

They just show how primitive the Serbs and Albanians are! They fight and kill eacho other for some decisions that are already decided by someone else far away long ago.

icj1

pre 7 godina

UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.
(Duh, 3 May 2016 21:41)

Yup! So I don't really get it why Serbia's government is up in arms! UEFA supported Serbia's position and this was a great victory for Serbia, like always.

Rusty Trombone

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars. (Rebeli, 3 May 2016 21:48)"

This is known in English as a "straw man": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

The comment you are responding to frightens you so you must obfuscate.

Kosovo's children can indeed play football -- local, continental, international -- without any issue under the flag of Serbia.

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)
PS I have been to Slovenia and there are many Serbs there. In fact the Slovenians dislike Croats while Albanians are even further down on the totem pole. They see Albanians as scavengers.

J

pre 7 godina

I want to thank all the Serbs here who hate Albanians. It's a daily reminder of the mass hysteria and xenophobia emenating from the Serbs and Serbia. And all this nonsense and hate is coming to light because of football. The only thing missing at this moment is for them to repeat the chants :" Kill Albanians, Kill Albanians ", Bishop Irenjej to once again declare holy war on Albanians, and for Nikolic to applaud them.

Every month something happens and Serbs remove any doubts of their deep hate and xenophobia against Albanians. Thank you for reminding me of this and removing the veneer of moderation and exposing all your hate hidden under your constant bull$h!t and nonsense. All because of a football game. Every month the Serbs renew my belief that human stupidity knows no bounds. Look at all the hate in the comments below; all because they want to stop football games from happening. This is pretty high up there on the stupidity level.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03) Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

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Most readers of this site are indeed striving for this goal. Our fellow citizens and emigrants of Albanian descent have generously dedicated 100s if not 1000s of hours and days of their lives glued to this site in unending discourse with fellow Yugoslavs. Even the bigots spend more time writing on this site, instead being cocooned in their decrepit fenced-in myopic world. The comment section of B92 and the diverse and colorful discourse is testimony that a unified multiethnic country exists in the spirit of all who contribute.

j

pre 7 godina

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go



-- And?......

Duh

pre 7 godina

I see Albanians are trying to spin the story to show Kosovo* isn't like any other territories that has UEFA membership. But according to the statues, members are based on UN sovereign states, so logic would dictate that those other members are parts of an existing UN member state. Since some Albanians here recognize Kosovo doesn't have UN membership, the only logic left is that it was admitted as a territory, like Gibraltar. What they think doesn't matter. It's what UEFA rationalized, and UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.

Everyone wins. Albanians in Kosovo* get to play, and Kosovo* is grouped with other non-state members. There's no other way for delusional clueless Albanians spin this story.

rote

pre 7 godina

Proud albanian : Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

Most likely Shqiptars were part of the same Slavic Horde that twice colonized Europe. First in 1318-1345 by Genghis Khan aka Georgy Danilovic aka St. George and by his younger brother Batu Khan aka Vatican aka Ivan Danilovic aka Prester John.

Second invasion started soon after 1415 when the civil war in the Horde came to an end. During the war (1370-1415) many vassals and some of the Horde’s gauleiters put to watch after the colonies lost discipline. Besides there was a split between the descendants of the mentioned brothers Georgy who ruled Constantinople and those of Ivan who ruled mainland Tartaria/Horde.

So Rus/Bulgars/Serbs/Croats/Bosniaks/ Macedonians /Caucasians and their allies moved to the Balkans and by 1453 cleaned it here. Under the Russian Tver Kniaz/Khan Mehmet II aka Prophet Mohammad (may Allah keeps Him in peace) they captured Constantinople naming it Stan Bulgar i.e. Place of the Bulgars/Volgars.

The saddest story started in 1485 when severe Bubonic plague epidemic took away millions of people in South and West of Europe. The Horde found had to clean territories of Britain, Spain, France, Italy, part of Balkans ect. Special Cossack expedition was sent there to kill all. Lands were granted to the noble men of the Horde. I suppose that all current peoples of the Balkans arrived there after 1485 including the Shqiptars.

Brian

pre 7 godina

There seems to be a lot of people who don't know Serbia didnt vote against Kosovo being in the Olympics and Serbia will participate along with Kosovo as equally independent and sovereign nations in Rio. It must be noted that this is not in any way controversial in Serbia. If Serbia didnt want to compete against Kosovo it would have quit the Olympics. But it isn't because no serbian athletes oppose competing against Kosovo athletes. There is not report of any Serbian football player announcing they won't play against Kosovo. Obviously Serbia signed brussels and became a leader in kosovo independence.

P.S. Y'all are not independent.

pre 7 godina

Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

What's your definition of independent???

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
who fought abroad and came back to Europe. Trump sees NATO as a partner who is not willing to go all out in defeating ISIS because of their own Muslim problems and appeasing liberal policies. He sees Putin as a potential willing partner in destroying ISIS because it would benefit
both. Trump views NATO as a relic of the past that served
its purpose. He agrees that it was a wonderful organization for the times past, but now he deems it as an impediment for the US moving forward.

Trump will try to work with Russia on many fronts for the benefit of both countries, but if Putin
continues to play his acrobatic games over the US ships and challenges The Donald's ego, Putin will get a "bloody nose" and all bets will be off the table.
With Putin or without Putin, unlike the previous US presidents, Trump will require you Albanians
to arrest your own family and clan members. And if y'all don't and you continue to play
the same old deceptive games as y'all have been playing until now, then y'all will be Trumped.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47) Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

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In the English language, "worse" is the comparative form of the adjective "bad" and means "more bad".

icj1's ungrammatical double comparative "less worse" literally translates to "less more bad".

By your convoluted logic, a reader may agree that one dysfunctional leader is "less more bad" than another.

However, dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity; unless you are demented apartheid bigot.

Royal Highness

pre 7 godina

"I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right. (Andrew Catterton, 5 May 2016 17:59)"

Your English is very bad so it is hard to understand what you are trying to say, but let us assume you are bringing into this conversation on Kosovo's football association being narrowly voted into membership of UEFA your mentioning of a completely different country and also a shallow personal understanding of the history of the Balkans.

In such a case, the response would be that Crimea has nothing to do with UEFA membership, and, you also need to read up on your history of the Balkans whereupon you will discover that they have a bloody history and that no people in the Balkans have suffered more than the Serbs over their history.

Armed with this information, you refrain from posting ignorant opinions lest you embarrass yourself. You go home and cook a nice coq au vin to impress your boyfriend.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link]. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:18) that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

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Now, now little icj1. You haven't even grasped the difference between a census roll and a voter registration list.
We'll get to the large chapter on "Failed States" after we cover the chapters on CIA overt and cover actions.
Please do have that diaper changed.

Reader

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's

Crooked women with ginormous cankles

pre 7 godina

A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 May 2016 01:58)

If that's true, then poor Melania is cursed.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34).

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Why did you specify Serbian? Your associations are as convoluted as your use of double comparative terns, such as "less worse".
Not only are you a Reader who can't read, you're also commentator who apparently can't write.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)"

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.

Albanians can make a good contribution to Serbian society and Kosovo's footballers have a welcoming home in the Serbian FA and national team.

Serbs and Albanians, and all other minorities, can coexist peacefully in the one state as long as they all respect the law of the land.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07) Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

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Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

In many democracies, individual citizens have a choice as to whether they wish to register and vote. Citizens who choose not to register are not placed on the voter registry. The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry. A similar process works in many other countries. Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.

mattko

pre 7 godina

UEFA is a private association that operates on the principle of profit as well as all other private companies and joint stock companies . If it were not so there would be no progress and new profits. Who does not like you may join the multitude of non-profit organizations , instead of grieving and going on about some sort of injustice . Evidence that according to the principles of justice no progress is Darwin's theory of evolution. Nobody protested when the snake swallowed a frog and then come Mongoose to ask whether the snake is ready to serve for his next meal. So it goes , justice is always one-sided and imaginary , survive those who know how not to be eaten , or are at least willing to learn

Free

pre 7 godina

Now Kosovo has a big challenge: Euro 2020 Finals.

Of course, with "only Albanians" team there are zero chances, but with some Serbian "reinforcements" it is very possible.

Who will be the first Serbian to become "Traitor of the Past" and "Hero of the Future"?

Crooked woman in a pantsuit.

pre 7 godina

BTW the independence of Kosovo* is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 22:26)

Dude, y'all are not independent. Every politcian and their favorite goat in Kosova* knows that except you.
BTW, The most secular people on the planet live in San Francisco, California. You Albanians might could be second, I'm not sure.

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 19:12)

Dragan,
Trump's wife is not Serbian, therefore, she most likely hates Serbs after having lived in the Former Yugoslavia. A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!! (icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)"

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.

Andrew Catterton

pre 7 godina

I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right.

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.
(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47)

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34)

Why did you specify Serbian?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 16:31)

Because it was Serbian leaders who ruled Kosovo prior to 1999... However, Serbian leaders are not the same thing as leaders of Serbian ethnicity so I'm not sure why you want to bring ethnicity into the discussion :)

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link].
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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway, according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia. Serbia's governmemt considered only 106094 adults in Kosovo to fulfill that condition. I totally agree with you that there must be more sane adult citizens of Serbia residing in KiM but unfortunately Serbia's government disagrees. It looks like your lesson of the day was not that convicing for Serbia's government :) give it another try haha

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway,

cen·sus
ˈsensəs/
noun
an official count or survey of a population, typically recording various details of individuals.

Citizenship
noun cit·i·zen·ship \ˈsi-tə-zən-ˌship\
The status of a citizen with its attendant duties, rights, and privileges.

voter registration (ˈvəʊtə ˌrɛdʒɪˈstreɪʃən)
noun
the requirement of citizens to become registered in order to vote ⇒ There are unexpectedly low rates of voter registration in some districts.

If you need more help with your English comprehension and logical reasoning don't be embarrassed to ask again. We're here to help the mentally challenged.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
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The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.

Please see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum. (Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33)"

There is much unnecessary hatred between Serbs and Albanians.

Has Kosovo under Taqi's rule been a great success for its Albanian inhabitants? Why are there so many that want to flee with one bag on their back to Germany?

Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

Albanians can have broad autonomy to take care of their own education/language/culture, but do they think that Kosovo can prosper in today's world, given all the problems there are?

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?

This is not to excuse or downplay the discrimination against them in Yugoslavia (by all its other constituent people). It was not deserved, and the focus should have been on unity, but what can we do about that now? Now, we must sink separately, or swim together. The rest of the world is moving.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33) Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

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Thank you for your crude and transparent comment. You, in fact, confess that your bigoted apartheid philosophy and drive for ethnic separation had nothing to do with the wars of the 1990s.
Your comment should also be directed to icj1. It was icj1 who falsely complained Serbia denied KiM citizens the right to vote. You may wish to share your common bigotry and perhaps come to an agreement on who actually segregated the population of KiM into a decrepit fenced-in ghetto.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's
(Reader, 4 May 2016 18:23)

Like Albanian "loose" wives?

icj1

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!
(icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=04&dd=24&nav_id=97791. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

Ashtu de

pre 7 godina

@ Royal Highness

You are a simple man. You don't need too much to be impressed. Mahh..
You think that you are superior to the women? Women are not made just to cook.
I think, ( j ) is a man, by the way.

Aleks

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05)

All of Kosovo's legal Albanian inhabitants are welcome in Serbia as its citizens and must enjoy equal rights as every other citizen.

If a citizen in Serbia can provide legitimate residency permits then they are entitled to vote. If they are illegal immigrants then it is a different case. The USA has a similar problem.

Reader

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia..."

Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?
(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03)

When Kosovo was not under Serbia it did better or, at least, that's what Kosovo thinks, and that's all that matters, not what me or you thinks.

As for the reason why Kosovo does not see autonomy within Serbia as serving Kosovo well, just take a look at the comments of the most patriotic of Serbs in these forums to understand why!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.
(Big Texas Burger, 6 May 2016 21:09)

that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 8 May 2016 16:58) Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

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You obviously didn't read assigned reading on the The Law on Single Electoral Roll that entered into force in Serbia in December 2011.

If you could read, you would have learned that the municipal governments, and not the Serbian government, manage voter registration. A permanent voter registration list is maintained by the municipal governments based on permanent residence and citizenship. It's the voters responsibility to ensure the data is entered and accurate. The municipal/town administrations maintain a permanent electronic database of this voter information. The municipal electronic data is used in the "single electoral Roll" during voting processes in Serbia.

icj1

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'.
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 02:24)

Sure, if that makes you happy, especially since I recon it's a terrible week for you. Btw, you should also set a reminder for yourself to write the above every 4 years when the US votes for president so that you can receive a dose of happiness every 4 years, at least!
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Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

Not sure what that has to do with UEFA voting to admit Kosovo... but anyway, you are confusing becoming a candidate for president for the Republican Party with the US presidency :) The Republicans who voted for Trump have forgotten that the main purpose of the primaries is to select somebody who can win the US presidential election and do what they need, not somebody who is the best at telling them what they want to hear, regardless of how unfeasible or crazy it is lol

j

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)

Sure it has prevented Albanian's from voting. It purged them from the voting list when the Serb Constitution was voted; the highest law of the Serbian state. Get this. It only purged Kosova Albanians, not Kosova Serbs. Even better, this was at a time when negotiations were going on the status of Kosova. To make things better Serbia had agreed prior to these negotiations that no side was going to unilaterally take any steps with regards to the status. Guess what the "new" Serb constitution was about? Claiming Kosova to be a part of Serbia. This, when this issue was being negotiated, where Albanians weren't allowed to vote for their own status, when Serbia had agreed not take any unilateral steps as with regards to the status. The violations are midnboggling for a republic claiming to be democratic. Only after this constitution was enacted, without Kosova Albanian representation, was independence declared.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 16:58)

Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07)
Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

But, anyway, don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes in Serbia. You should see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws haha
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Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Well, the USA laws that require citizens to register themselves in the electoral roll do not apply in Serbia. Serbian law applies in Serbia and Serbian law requires the government to register persons with the right to vote in the electoral roll.

F$#CK U UEFA & FIFA

pre 7 godina

Can you change the rules during a game? No! Can you change the rules during an election? NO! ONLY FIFA and all its subsidiaries, like UEFA, seem to to be able to do whatever they want. FIFA & UEFA are corrupt (proven) and lack moral standards. Shameful!

Josh

pre 7 godina

WELCOME KOSOVO TO UEFA. Sorry Serbia. this is another failure of yours to prevent Kosovo from joining UEFA body. Next week Kosovo will be member of FIFA.....

Fluid

pre 7 godina

Congratulations! It's been way to long. UEFA just proved that it will not allow politics to kill soccer dreams of the Kosovo's children. Bravo!

The Driver

pre 7 godina

Now it the Albanians turn to be thrown a bone. This is a meaningless gesture; the Anglo/Western Northern Europeans think that people in the Balkans are alive to serve them and their needs. They throw us Serbs bones once in awhile thinking that we will be good doggies and fetch for them but Serbs don’t like being someone’s pet. Why do Albanians think that they actually give a damn? Why are you so satisfied with a pat on the head while you sleep outside in the cold and eat their leftovers? Kosovo will never be a viable state but now you have a football team, yeah for you!

Demi

pre 7 godina

This is nothing against Serbia and Serbs. Kosova as Serbian as much as Slovenia is Serbian.

The people of Kosova has choosen the right to be free. We dont want anything to do with Serbia respect that!

havingaparty

pre 7 godina

Kosovo will soon become a powerhouse of the Balkans. the mount of talents especially in western Europe is ridiculous and this will surely influence on the team. Immediately the group against croatia, iceland, turkey and russia (no points) is very tough.
#congrats

EU Dude

pre 7 godina

LOL! Another European precedent that is absolutely not a precedent and will absolutely not boomerang back against UEFA.

Not a single lesson learned by Europe who as usual ignores its own rules when it applies to itself but demands others stick to the letter of the law. Retards!

What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't? What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? Sanction Serbia when Kosovo* was illegally allowed to join UEFA against its own rules? Get ready for another great European circus.

eric

pre 7 godina

All i see is Kosova progressing eveytime, really, it is a young Albanian state and for the effort and hard work is all paying off.

We love the dardanian state

Navi

pre 7 godina

Nothing unusual about admitting non-states to UEFA. Members include regional territories like Gibraltar, Faroe Islands, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Kosovo is just another territory and with no changes to UEFA statues as Albanians wanted, membership status only affirms what Kosovo is: a non-country.

Meti

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .

Uli

pre 7 godina

I know it does hurt a lot for Serbs but it is the logical thing to do.I knew Kosovo was going to join when they let Gilbartar to get in . Wells is in, Scotland, Northern Ireland and why not Kosovo? That was discriminating them Platini saved Serbia for a long time but nothing is permanent my friend. Would like to see Kosovo join Albanian League soon.

jimmyjimmer

pre 7 godina

Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years.

Florend

pre 7 godina

Go Kosova. The Ghetto, in which Kosovo's football was unjustly under for over 8 years since its independence, is over. The nation with largest young generation in Europe can now prospect and show the world its footballing talents. Many talented football players in Europe are of Kosovar descent but due to political circumstances they were forced to play for other countries. New talents can now represent their own country. Today, the sport has won over politics. Kosova will always be grateful to UEFA Members who voted for Kosovo. At the same time we hope that we will prove that members who voted against Kosovo were wrong to do so, as our teams will be worthy of UEFA competitions in future. Congratulations to all football fans in Kosova and in Europe as the further diversity of football can only be a good thing.

Ari Gold

pre 7 godina

24 countries voted against and yet 5 countries from the EU don't recognize Pristina institutions. 2 abstained. But even when you count Russia's vote, and Belarus... Serbia was almost able to get it close to an even split in a European institution. There is a trend here, in UNESCO countries which have previously "recognized kosovo" sided against it when it came to voting for important issues. And now we see that at least a handful of European countries which have previously given their diplomatic support are in various ways pulling it back.

See your victory came after the Brussels Agreement was used as grounds to unilaterally give Pristina institutions a spot in the Olympics. I'm surprised UEFA didn't come sooner. But Israel has to deal with a similar annoyance, and clearly there are already non-countries participating.

I don't care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament. Best of luck.

Azem

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.

Proud albanian

pre 7 godina

Kosovo is albanian never is going to be Serbia wake up serbian people. It never was. Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

Commentator

pre 7 godina

Well, in case the WC2018 will happen in Russia, we can be relieved that Russia has already experience in raising the Kosovo flag and saluting to it..

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Congratulation Kosovo!

I can not believe that Serbs in this site trying to make this looks like a bad thing for Kosovo.

Serbian Federation and her allies voted NO.

Albania Federation and her allies voted YES.
The result is Kosovo is the full member of UEFA.
Kosovo is the 55th member of UEFA.

It looks Serbia has success blocking in a case such as UNESCO where Kosovo needs 2/3 of the votes pro and Serbia can get a little bit more than 1/3 to block Kosovo.
But when it requires 50%+1 vote, Serbia has no chance to block Kosovo.

As an Albanian I am not happy to have two national teams, but as far as I know Albania and Kosovo federation have agreed that the players who have no chance to play with Albania, they can go and play with Kosovo.

Next week Kosovo will become full FIFA member.

Joni

pre 7 godina

@ Croatian
I bet you will lose!
Looked at Germany, Suisse, Belgium and of course Albania,…etc , where Albanians from Kosovo play with.
This generation of Albanians in Kosovo impress me. Are Super Talented!
Love them all – no matter if they choose to play with Kosovo or Albania – we are one nation. Love you all!

Natasa Kanbic

pre 7 godina

This Kosovo/UEFA issue is not about "Kosovo's children being allowed to play football or not" as the Kosovo Albanian representative at the congress stated with such pathos.

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.

So that is the key issue at stake here - not whether the children in Kosovo "can play football" but whether an international organisation implicitly takes a position on a political question (that is, Kosovo's potential status as a sovereign state able to enter into agreements and treaties independent of any other state).

As it is, the political decision has today been made by UEFA. How the repercussions are felt across Europe and the broader world over time remains to be seen but they are bound to be problematic and ultimately counterproductive to UEFA's and sport's mission to be a conciliatory and unifying vehicle.

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

jimmyjimmer: "Looking at these comments its like cockroaches coming out of the woodwork. Can't wait until Serbia piledrives freedom back into the Pristina Isis state in 20 years."

The average age of Albanians in Kosova is 26 and the average age of Serbs is 75. In 20 years, most of the Serbs in Kosova won't be around anymore.

Furthermore, there is a extreme shortage of fertile females in Toplica and Jabllanica, and a lot of local males have married Albanian girls. In 20 years time there will be a whole generation in Southern Serbia whose mother tongue will be Albanian.

It is most likely that in 20 years, it will be Prishtina piledriving freedom back to Nish, than the other way around.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"What is UEFA going to do when Serbia is inevitably set to play Kosovo* and Serbia won't?"

In that event, depending on whether its a friendly or not, UEFA will deduct Serbia 3 points. Easy does it

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged.

Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

(ned taylor, 3 May 2016 16:25)

NO problem. UEFA or any other Sport Organization has already had this problem many times in the past. Judo Championship in Russia was also held with Kosovo National Flag and Anthem.

Watch the ceremony in Kazan just a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

If any team refuses to play against Kosovo or blocks Kosovo official Anthem, Flag or Banners they lose 3 points. High risk games can be played on neutral ground, without fans etc. Long story short. FIFA and UEFA react very harsh if politics interfere with sports. Remember Governement of Nigeria vs. FIFA beef during WorldCup Southafrica?!

rote

pre 7 godina

Proud albanian : Serbian need to go back to Russia because you invaded balkans. Shame on you

Most likely Shqiptars were part of the same Slavic Horde that twice colonized Europe. First in 1318-1345 by Genghis Khan aka Georgy Danilovic aka St. George and by his younger brother Batu Khan aka Vatican aka Ivan Danilovic aka Prester John.

Second invasion started soon after 1415 when the civil war in the Horde came to an end. During the war (1370-1415) many vassals and some of the Horde’s gauleiters put to watch after the colonies lost discipline. Besides there was a split between the descendants of the mentioned brothers Georgy who ruled Constantinople and those of Ivan who ruled mainland Tartaria/Horde.

So Rus/Bulgars/Serbs/Croats/Bosniaks/ Macedonians /Caucasians and their allies moved to the Balkans and by 1453 cleaned it here. Under the Russian Tver Kniaz/Khan Mehmet II aka Prophet Mohammad (may Allah keeps Him in peace) they captured Constantinople naming it Stan Bulgar i.e. Place of the Bulgars/Volgars.

The saddest story started in 1485 when severe Bubonic plague epidemic took away millions of people in South and West of Europe. The Horde found had to clean territories of Britain, Spain, France, Italy, part of Balkans ect. Special Cossack expedition was sent there to kill all. Lands were granted to the noble men of the Horde. I suppose that all current peoples of the Balkans arrived there after 1485 including the Shqiptars.

Blind Prophet

pre 7 godina

UK having national teams for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?
(Andy UK, 3 May 2016 13:54)

Andy if Kosovo did not get in this would be talked as great win for Serbia Maybe 6:0....

Also Walse, Scotland have the right to referendum, just like any marriage people have the right to divorce if its not working. A referendum in Kosovo in 1990 showed what majority wants.

Back to Sport, this is ideal for the athletes they get to compete apart from politics and represent their country. FIFA next step at a time.

Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in Russia and the national anthem got played in Russia in front of Russian soldiers cheers.

Cedomir Jovanodic

pre 7 godina

Andy UK - how does Kosovo differ from Wales/Scotland/NorthernIreland...?

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"A diversion for the ignorant masses. The grim reality of a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders remains unchanged."

...but you wish we didn't have this diversion either. so salut! p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow

Therret Prizreni

pre 7 godina

"What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEH95ZEUSw

the actual truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)

the truth

pre 7 godina

What of others who will refuse to play Kosov*? Will they be sanctioned too? "

No one will refuse to play. A couple of weeks ago, Majlinda Kelmendi won gold in the European Judo Championship, in Russia of all places. There were a few hesitations from the Russian officials to raise the Kosovar flag, until the order came from Vladimir Putin: either raise the flag, or I will come myself to raise it. The flag was raised and the Russian Army saluted the Kosovar Flag: [link]
(Therret Prizreni, 3 May 2016 17:03) # Comment link

I have written many times about Majlinda and specially when decision/order that came from Putin himself in last minutes before the tournament began, but I did not have a single response from serb pc warriors. No Serb media has ever reported the gold medal even in World Championship in Chelyabinsk,Russia,and wonder WHY? I suggest all Serbs warriors should watch your link and at least make a stupid comment, as usual.

Dragan

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'. He will also make friends with Russia and Serbia, just watch and see. He has the vision, and he has the guts. We look forward to it :) .
Cheers!!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived... (Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)...

I have news for you because you look like you have no idea of American politics.
The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago, but regarding Kosovo, his presidency continued the predecessor as G.W. Bush, continued what Clinton did and so on.
Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.

sj

pre 7 godina

P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)
PS I have been to Slovenia and there are many Serbs there. In fact the Slovenians dislike Croats while Albanians are even further down on the totem pole. They see Albanians as scavengers.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's
(Reader, 4 May 2016 18:23)

Like Albanian "loose" wives?

Duh

pre 7 godina

I see Albanians are trying to spin the story to show Kosovo* isn't like any other territories that has UEFA membership. But according to the statues, members are based on UN sovereign states, so logic would dictate that those other members are parts of an existing UN member state. Since some Albanians here recognize Kosovo doesn't have UN membership, the only logic left is that it was admitted as a territory, like Gibraltar. What they think doesn't matter. It's what UEFA rationalized, and UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.

Everyone wins. Albanians in Kosovo* get to play, and Kosovo* is grouped with other non-state members. There's no other way for delusional clueless Albanians spin this story.

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

The foreign policy of USA DOESN'T CHANGE no matter who is in White House.
Obama for instance had very good ties with Serbs in Chicago,
P.S Trump's wife is Slovenian not Serbian and I don't think she likes Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

I have news for your genius, Milania comes from a pro Yugoslav family and very close to the Serbs, yes her background is Slovenian. Trump holds no allegiance with the Republican or Democratic hawks or lobbies that support them, watch and learn. As for Obama, his "close ties" with Chicago Serbs was purely for votes, it's obvious his foreign policy was very favorable to Islamic Muslims. That is going to change , Trumps foreign policy views are much different than both the Democrats and so called Conservative republicans. That being said, he will face resistance in the Congress and Senate where these crooks continue to collect money from lobby groups to advance national and international political agenda's. The days of Dole, Lugar and others collecting blood money from Albanian pimps, drug runner lobby groups is over.

I extend an apology to all the Serbs for the error of American policy, primarily Clinton’s. We need allies in fight against Islamic terrorism who have combat experience fighting this evil - and that in Europe are the Russians and the Serbs.http://newswatchreport.com/item/228551_donald-trump-it-was-a-great-mistake-to-bomb-the-serbs-who-were-our-allies-in-both-world-wars

P.S. Y'all are not independent.

pre 7 godina

Btw Albanians are lobbying on both candidates not only Hillary, but as I said if Trump wins Kosovo still will be independent.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 15:48)

What's your definition of independent???

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
who fought abroad and came back to Europe. Trump sees NATO as a partner who is not willing to go all out in defeating ISIS because of their own Muslim problems and appeasing liberal policies. He sees Putin as a potential willing partner in destroying ISIS because it would benefit
both. Trump views NATO as a relic of the past that served
its purpose. He agrees that it was a wonderful organization for the times past, but now he deems it as an impediment for the US moving forward.

Trump will try to work with Russia on many fronts for the benefit of both countries, but if Putin
continues to play his acrobatic games over the US ships and challenges The Donald's ego, Putin will get a "bloody nose" and all bets will be off the table.
With Putin or without Putin, unlike the previous US presidents, Trump will require you Albanians
to arrest your own family and clan members. And if y'all don't and you continue to play
the same old deceptive games as y'all have been playing until now, then y'all will be Trumped.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"The question is where these teams (from Kosovo) would play, how those countries that have not recognized Kosovo would welcome them, what protocol would be applied, and there is also the issue of the safety and security at the stadiums in Kosovo, which have not undergone the usual licensing procedure,"

how nice of Serbia's delegate to have these concerns about Kosovo's stadiums. never knew they had us so close to heart

the truth

pre 7 godina

Watch the Serb commenters attempt to spin this as positive news nevertheless. This is a complete and utter political defeat for Serbia. Millions and millions of people will now see Kosovo's flag amongs all other countries and be exposed to the reality that Kosovo is a state. This is absolutely a crushing defeat for Serbia.
(Azem, 3 May 2016 14:38) #


Right on, they always spin it to their liking. If results were the opposite, you will read totally different comments from Serb pc warriors. The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Many generations have been giving life to this day Kosova has always been oppressed by Serbia this whole world knows , but now is our time to show the world that we are wrong to not have received earlier .
(Meti, 3 May 2016 16:36)

You've spent generations suffering and sacrificing to be admitted into a regional football club?

Man, you people aim low :)

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)"

so its all right then, we'll get to move to Germany, you'll get to talk about it. difference being, you no longer will get to write, you're all fenced in and isolated. p.s. will you switch off your TV set when Kosova's national football team, however bad it is, plays or will you be cheering them on?

the truth

pre 7 godina

The Serbs are in for another surprise tomorrow. I will not say it, instead, I will give b92 the privilege to report on what is happening tomorrow.
(the truth, 3 May 2016 16:22)

If it's what I think it is, it won't be the Serbs in for a surprise, but Europeans because by the end of the year if everything works out, two-thirds of Kosovo's population will be headed towards Germany :)
(the actual truth, 3 May 2016 17:07)

ej fellow, kudos to you. You actually beat b92 on tomorrows events, but you are wrong on your assumption what will happen one year from now!?
I am having a filed day with you guys, keep up the good work !!!

Free

pre 7 godina

Now Kosovo has a big challenge: Euro 2020 Finals.

Of course, with "only Albanians" team there are zero chances, but with some Serbian "reinforcements" it is very possible.

Who will be the first Serbian to become "Traitor of the Past" and "Hero of the Future"?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 16:59) p.s. kosovo is widely expected to be recommended visa free travel tomorrow.

---

Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity.

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Just like some is going to recommend the repeal of the law of gravity. 

Gravity will still exist tomorrow as certainly as KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders."

Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better

Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Trump is very interested in destroying ISIS. You Albanians have more than 1,000 ISIS members
....
(P.S. Y'all are not independent., 4 May 2016 17:25)

I wish he can kill all those 1000 scums who btw are not Albanian anymore, since they burned the passports of republic of Kosovo.

So, for 1000 scums you think that Trump will penalize the rest of Albanians?
I don't think so.

Do you know that Albanians are the most secular people in the planet?
Probably you don't and I am not expecting you to know this since 24/7 you listen to Sesejl and Irenej.
Unlike in you where Irenej is President and Prime minister, in Albania religion is separate from the government.

If Albanians would have been religious fanatics they wouldn't have elected regularly Christians for prime ministers and presidents, since 1920s until today.
Edi Rama is Christian do you know this?
I am sure you don't know that because to you every Albanian is Muslim=terrorist.

When was the last time that Serbia had a Muslim Serb for president or prime minister? Never I guess..
And I mean Serbia not Yugoslavia during 1944-1990.

BTW the independence of Kosovo is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!

Free

pre 7 godina

Now i feel like the Germans used to feel till `89: Having two national teams.

First, UEFA and FIFA will make sure there will be no match Serbia vs Kosovo/Albania.

Second, if any national team will refuse to play against Kosovo they will be sanctioned with a forfeit, which means Kosovo wins the game by 3:0.

rote

pre 7 godina

I am happy about the Shqips’ success ! It’s a result of the last voting and there will be many more. Middle-of-the-road politics was good for Tito but today there’s no non-alignment movement and Serbia is not Yugoslavia. Sitting on two chairs is dangerous for you today because it smells bad and because you need two asses ad hoq. Some people call it prostitution and it was the last thing Russians expected from the Serbs. We became prisoners of our imagination believing that Serbs move homeward. But the last voting was a cold shower for many in Russia including myself. Now each time they twist your hands please address to Brussels (B-Russel). UEFA is just the first slap. With what face Serbia is going to ask Russia’s assistance next time after such voting? Vucic&Co is just a reincarnation of Otpor under adopted rhetoric. Wasn’t it clear a week ago? The USA is trying to split you with Russia as you know. Guess which of us will survive and who will suck like all your neighbors already do? It was a great shock for the West when during Napoleon wars our 4-th army under Hilchagov (traitor who flew to London) spoke the same language as the Serbs and the Bulgarians. So they reformed all 3 languages to increase the distance. Bastard sellouts like Karadzic did the job. And it’s been 200 years now that they step by step tear us apart. UEFA is just peanuts compared to what I say.

j

pre 7 godina

Those latter states are permitted UEFA membership by virtue of their being part of a UN member state (specifically, the United Kingdom), and their legal status as member states of the United Kingdom is recognised world wide.

Kosovo does not meet these critera. It, of course, is not a UN member itself but, more importantly, it also claims not to be a part of any UN member state (specifically, Serbia). That is the first distinction with Wales/Scotland/NIreland. The second is that, unlike Wales/Scotland/NIreland, Kosovo's legal status is not recognised world wide. It is not even recognised uniformly in Europe.

So in case you were really interested in how it is different, there you go



-- And?......

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"Serbia was almost able..." Nice epitaph for Serbia that Ari Gold, almost able. In football terms this would be what, taking the game to extra time and then losing anyway? as for this: "I dont care who plays them, just don't put Serbia in the same qualifications group and then Serbia wont be seeing them in any actual tournament" I disagree, i want Serbia to play Kosovo for two reasons; one to hear the national anthem of Kosovo in the middle of Belgrade as protocol dictates, just to annoy the nationalists in Serbia and two, 6 easy points for hoy Kosmet, due to the heavenly team refusing to play

Rebeli

pre 7 godina

"The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles."

Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars.

Mark

pre 7 godina

Whats the point? There'll be no people left in Kosovo in a few years time. They're already all fleeing their albanian paradise of Kosovo to western europe.

ida

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars."

You are ignoring the KLA which started the killings, and the fact that non-Albanian children have been driven from their homes in Kosovo, which is in a state of Apartheid for the non-Albanians.
Albanians are effectively given two states.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Nikolle, 3 May 2016 23:36) Oh dear, so I take it, by drawing a parallel between granting visa free travel to Kosovars and someone suggesting something as stupid as repealing the law of gravity, that you dont agree with the decision? Dont worry, you can always use words like dysfunctional to feel better.

---

Tomorrow has arrived.
How I feel or what I agree to, is irrelevant to the following hard facts:
Impoverished residents of KiM still require visa for travel to EU countries.
Gravity is still a law of nature.
KiM is still a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto led by dysfunctional leaders.

Free

pre 7 godina

God how stupid all this looks:

First there is an Agreement signed by Serbian Government were they commmit not to obstruct Kosovo`s membership in International Institutions.

Then they fight fiercely lobbying against Kosovo membership in International Institutions.

When they win, they declare it a Political Win against political status of Kosovo.

When they lose "that has nothing to do with Kosovo political status".

Cut the cr~p! We all know what`s going on.

US and Russia (then USSR) gave Serbia Kosovo not because "Serbia won WWI" (thats what Serbs want to believe), and certainly not because "Kosovo is cradle of Serbia".

US and Russia gave you Kosovo simply because it was in their best interest.

And now US and Russia took Kosovo away from you simply because it is in their best interest.

All these "Russia backs Serbs" and "US backs Albanians" is just a show.

Russia has got Crimea, and let Kosovo go.

Which means all those wars, all those victims, all these "quarrels" were/are really STUPID!

They just show how primitive the Serbs and Albanians are! They fight and kill eacho other for some decisions that are already decided by someone else far away long ago.

Royal Highness

pre 7 godina

"I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right. (Andrew Catterton, 5 May 2016 17:59)"

Your English is very bad so it is hard to understand what you are trying to say, but let us assume you are bringing into this conversation on Kosovo's football association being narrowly voted into membership of UEFA your mentioning of a completely different country and also a shallow personal understanding of the history of the Balkans.

In such a case, the response would be that Crimea has nothing to do with UEFA membership, and, you also need to read up on your history of the Balkans whereupon you will discover that they have a bloody history and that no people in the Balkans have suffered more than the Serbs over their history.

Armed with this information, you refrain from posting ignorant opinions lest you embarrass yourself. You go home and cook a nice coq au vin to impress your boyfriend.

Rusty Trombone

pre 7 godina

"Yes, the children of Kosovo can play football....but I guess you are speaking about those children which were not killed from the Serbian army and paramilitars. (Rebeli, 3 May 2016 21:48)"

This is known in English as a "straw man": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

The comment you are responding to frightens you so you must obfuscate.

Kosovo's children can indeed play football -- local, continental, international -- without any issue under the flag of Serbia.

Dragan

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.
(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47)

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34)

Why did you specify Serbian?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 16:31)

Because it was Serbian leaders who ruled Kosovo prior to 1999... However, Serbian leaders are not the same thing as leaders of Serbian ethnicity so I'm not sure why you want to bring ethnicity into the discussion :)

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link].
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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway, according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia. Serbia's governmemt considered only 106094 adults in Kosovo to fulfill that condition. I totally agree with you that there must be more sane adult citizens of Serbia residing in KiM but unfortunately Serbia's government disagrees. It looks like your lesson of the day was not that convicing for Serbia's government :) give it another try haha

icj1

pre 7 godina

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.
(Big Texas Burger, 6 May 2016 21:09)

that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

icj1

pre 7 godina

KiM will still be a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional leaders.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 3 May 2016 20:40)

Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

Reader

pre 7 godina

Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency and the Albanians will be pouring millions of dollars for Clintons campaign, an immoral crook to US citizens and the US. Better enjoy what small part of Kosovo the KLA stole, it will be short lived. Who is the idiot Albanian who thinks Milania is Albanian? She is a true blue Yugoslav of Slovenian descent!
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

I wish the government of Serbia takes your advice and allocates funds to lobby with Donald Trump's wife. They need to do this soon though, the Donald is known for changing wives often.

P.S.
Clintons -> Clinton's

The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Teodor Muzaka - Trump doesn't like ISIS and church burning terrorists, drug dealers, leaches, which means you are screwed. What he does like is eastern European women and Christian nations who stand up to the head choppers. Let me reiterate, you albos are screwed.
Cheers!!
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 19:12)

Dragan,
Trump's wife is not Serbian, therefore, she most likely hates Serbs after having lived in the Former Yugoslavia. A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

It's amusing to see Serbs hoping that Trump give them a land that they couldn't make theirs in a 100 years!
Hey dummies, did you not know that Trump is an old friend of Pacolli? This is what is going to happen the first thing when Trump comes to power: We will build a big, beautiful, magnificent wall in the border of Kosova with Serbia, and Vucica is going to pay for it. Not only that, but he will wear his most beautiful dress and dance in front of the wall when it's done.

Andrew Catterton

pre 7 godina

I...support it. Why? Well, bottom line is, if Crimea can hold a vote under foreign occupation to leave a country to which they are part of WITHOUT a massive ethnic cleansing operation plaguing its history, committed BY the country they are seceding from, (12,000 Albanians systematically killed, roughly 1 MILLION forcibly displaced and thousands raped)...then a nation that HAS suffered such atrocities should ALSO have that right.

Aleks

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05)

All of Kosovo's legal Albanian inhabitants are welcome in Serbia as its citizens and must enjoy equal rights as every other citizen.

If a citizen in Serbia can provide legitimate residency permits then they are entitled to vote. If they are illegal immigrants then it is a different case. The USA has a similar problem.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

This decision is all well and good in principle, but it isn't just a problem of what happens when Kosovo are drawn to face Serbia, there are 5 EU members who do not recognise Kosovo's independence and UEFA are not in a position to force the governments of these countries to effectively recognise this independence by allowing their national teams to compete against them. I wonder how the Olympics will proceed this year if a Spanish boxer has to face a Kosovan one; will the government step in and force him to concede the fight? As an immigration officer 25 years ago I was not allowed to stamp a Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus passport as this would have constituted recognition of that country by the UK. This decision will open up a whole hornet's nest and needed consultation with the national governments before a vote was held. The level of opposition is a good indication of the trouble ahead; the motion squeaked through and there are now many unhappy national associations. UEFA may well have caused an existential crisis. I have no sympathy with Serbia in this matter and had they been the only country opposing this move it would have been sensible to proceed but 24 countries voted against; almost half. Of course a simple majority means that in theory everything was legitimate but this is far from a simple matter.

icj1

pre 7 godina

To all the albo trolls who pollute this site daily, the next president of the US, Donald J. Trump, will rescind recognition of your fake, illegal, and immoral 'state'.
(Dragan, 4 May 2016 02:24)

Sure, if that makes you happy, especially since I recon it's a terrible week for you. Btw, you should also set a reminder for yourself to write the above every 4 years when the US votes for president so that you can receive a dose of happiness every 4 years, at least!
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Donald Trump is one step closer to the US presidency
(Jugoslavija, 4 May 2016 14:55)

Not sure what that has to do with UEFA voting to admit Kosovo... but anyway, you are confusing becoming a candidate for president for the Republican Party with the US presidency :) The Republicans who voted for Trump have forgotten that the main purpose of the primaries is to select somebody who can win the US presidential election and do what they need, not somebody who is the best at telling them what they want to hear, regardless of how unfeasible or crazy it is lol

Crooked women with ginormous cankles

pre 7 godina

A Slovenian friend from Sevnica told me Melania is part Albanian, in which case Serbia is cursed.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 May 2016 01:58)

If that's true, then poor Melania is cursed.

icj1

pre 7 godina

The children of Kosovo can easily play football if they like. Moreover, and this directly contradicts the Kosovo Albanian representative, the children of Kosovo can also play continental and international football. It is open for them to do so under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacles.
(Natasa Kanbic, 3 May 2016 18:12)

Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!!
(icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=04&dd=24&nav_id=97791. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22) Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens [link]. So, whom should we believe? A certain Slobo and Natasa or Serbia's government?!

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The article you reference is not a census of citizenship. If you were capable of reading your own link, the relevant wording stated "A total of 106,094 people in Kosovo and Metohija were eligible to vote in Serbian parliamentary elections".

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension. Please do not be embarrassed with your chronic deficiency. As a Reader who can't read, perhaps you may eventually benefit from our lessons and hopefully attain Grade 2 literacy.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?
(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03)

When Kosovo was not under Serbia it did better or, at least, that's what Kosovo thinks, and that's all that matters, not what me or you thinks.

As for the reason why Kosovo does not see autonomy within Serbia as serving Kosovo well, just take a look at the comments of the most patriotic of Serbs in these forums to understand why!

icj1

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07)
Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

But, anyway, don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes in Serbia. You should see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws haha
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Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 8 May 2016 01:32)

Well, the USA laws that require citizens to register themselves in the electoral roll do not apply in Serbia. Serbian law applies in Serbia and Serbian law requires the government to register persons with the right to vote in the electoral roll.

icj1

pre 7 godina

UEFA formally recognized Kosovo as a non-sovereign territory. Which is exactly what it is.
(Duh, 3 May 2016 21:41)

Yup! So I don't really get it why Serbia's government is up in arms! UEFA supported Serbia's position and this was a great victory for Serbia, like always.

Crooked woman in a pantsuit.

pre 7 godina

BTW the independence of Kosovo* is irreversible.
Live with that!
Laku Noch!
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 4 May 2016 22:26)

Dude, y'all are not independent. Every politcian and their favorite goat in Kosova* knows that except you.
BTW, The most secular people on the planet live in San Francisco, California. You Albanians might could be second, I'm not sure.

icj1

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 May 2016 03:47)

Of course, I did not associate it with ethnicity either :)
(icj1, 5 May 2016 15:34).

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Why did you specify Serbian? Your associations are as convoluted as your use of double comparative terns, such as "less worse".
Not only are you a Reader who can't read, you're also commentator who apparently can't write.

Ashtu de

pre 7 godina

@ Royal Highness

You are a simple man. You don't need too much to be impressed. Mahh..
You think that you are superior to the women? Women are not made just to cook.
I think, ( j ) is a man, by the way.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)"

Kosovo's (legal) Albanian inhabitants must come back to mother Serbia. They will be well taken care of and given employment and life under the rule of law. They will not go hungry anymore under Taqi and his extended mafia family.

Albanians can make a good contribution to Serbian society and Kosovo's footballers have a welcoming home in the Serbian FA and national team.

Serbs and Albanians, and all other minorities, can coexist peacefully in the one state as long as they all respect the law of the land.

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia..."

Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

icj1

pre 7 godina

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.
(Slobo Donkeys, 5 May 2016 16:17)

Well, according to Serbia, most of KiM's residents are not Serbia's citizens since Serbia recognized only 106094 adults residing in KiM as being Serbia's citizens
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

Your confusion between a voter registration list and a list of citizens accurately reflects your persistent failures in English language comprehension.

This concludes our lesson of the day. If you wish, you may now resume sucking your thumb.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 11:25)

according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
(icj1, 6 May 2016 02:22)

The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 6 May 2016 16:58)

Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

Brian

pre 7 godina

There seems to be a lot of people who don't know Serbia didnt vote against Kosovo being in the Olympics and Serbia will participate along with Kosovo as equally independent and sovereign nations in Rio. It must be noted that this is not in any way controversial in Serbia. If Serbia didnt want to compete against Kosovo it would have quit the Olympics. But it isn't because no serbian athletes oppose competing against Kosovo athletes. There is not report of any Serbian football player announcing they won't play against Kosovo. Obviously Serbia signed brussels and became a leader in kosovo independence.

J

pre 7 godina

I want to thank all the Serbs here who hate Albanians. It's a daily reminder of the mass hysteria and xenophobia emenating from the Serbs and Serbia. And all this nonsense and hate is coming to light because of football. The only thing missing at this moment is for them to repeat the chants :" Kill Albanians, Kill Albanians ", Bishop Irenjej to once again declare holy war on Albanians, and for Nikolic to applaud them.

Every month something happens and Serbs remove any doubts of their deep hate and xenophobia against Albanians. Thank you for reminding me of this and removing the veneer of moderation and exposing all your hate hidden under your constant bull$h!t and nonsense. All because of a football game. Every month the Serbs renew my belief that human stupidity knows no bounds. Look at all the hate in the comments below; all because they want to stop football games from happening. This is pretty high up there on the stupidity level.

Slobo Donkeys

pre 7 godina

"Really?!!! But Serbia does not consider most residents of Kosovo as being Serbian citizens (just a couple of weeks ago it prevented the vast majority of Kosovo residents from voting in Serbia's elections). So, how can those who Serbia considers as non-citizens play under the flag of Serbia without any legal or other obstacle?!!!! (icj1, 5 May 2016 02:52)"

Of course Serbia considers all the legal inhabitants of its territories as its citizens. All citizens with legitimate papers can vote in the elections, as can legal residents in the USA or any other country.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) Well, I'm not sure what a "census of citizenship" is lol but anyway,

cen·sus
ˈsensəs/
noun
an official count or survey of a population, typically recording various details of individuals.

Citizenship
noun cit·i·zen·ship \ˈsi-tə-zən-ˌship\
The status of a citizen with its attendant duties, rights, and privileges.

voter registration (ˈvəʊtə ˌrɛdʒɪˈstreɪʃən)
noun
the requirement of citizens to become registered in order to vote ⇒ There are unexpectedly low rates of voter registration in some districts.

If you need more help with your English comprehension and logical reasoning don't be embarrassed to ask again. We're here to help the mentally challenged.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 6 May 2016 14:05) according to Serbian law, to be eligible to vote in Serbia's general election the only requirement is being a sane adult citizen of Serbia.
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The law on The Single Electoral Roll in Serbia, entered into force on December 27, 2011, mandates voter registration.

Please see if someone can change your diaper. The contents appear to be backed up to your brain as you are now imagining fictions laws.

Big Texas Burger

pre 7 godina

"Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum. (Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33)"

There is much unnecessary hatred between Serbs and Albanians.

Has Kosovo under Taqi's rule been a great success for its Albanian inhabitants? Why are there so many that want to flee with one bag on their back to Germany?

Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

Albanians can have broad autonomy to take care of their own education/language/culture, but do they think that Kosovo can prosper in today's world, given all the problems there are?

Are there no reasonable Albanians to see that broad autonomy within Serbia served the Albanians well for more than half a century (when many of them immigrated to Kosovo)? When, in their entire history, have the Albanian people done as well?

This is not to excuse or downplay the discrimination against them in Yugoslavia (by all its other constituent people). It was not deserved, and the focus should have been on unity, but what can we do about that now? Now, we must sink separately, or swim together. The rest of the world is moving.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Slobo Donkeys, 6 May 2016 22:33) Amnesia Yugoslavia, you sound like a broken record! We didn't give a flying f*ck about Serbia's elections for the past 30 years, you still keep beating the same drum.

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Thank you for your crude and transparent comment. You, in fact, confess that your bigoted apartheid philosophy and drive for ethnic separation had nothing to do with the wars of the 1990s.
Your comment should also be directed to icj1. It was icj1 who falsely complained Serbia denied KiM citizens the right to vote. You may wish to share your common bigotry and perhaps come to an agreement on who actually segregated the population of KiM into a decrepit fenced-in ghetto.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(Big Texas Burger, 7 May 2016 01:03) Why dont Serbs and Albanians help each other build a prosperous and competitive country in today's very competitive economic world?

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Most readers of this site are indeed striving for this goal. Our fellow citizens and emigrants of Albanian descent have generously dedicated 100s if not 1000s of hours and days of their lives glued to this site in unending discourse with fellow Yugoslavs. Even the bigots spend more time writing on this site, instead being cocooned in their decrepit fenced-in myopic world. The comment section of B92 and the diverse and colorful discourse is testimony that a unified multiethnic country exists in the spirit of all who contribute.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:18) that's laughable... Serbia is a failed state that can't properly feed even its own children, let alone an additional 2 million hungry Kosovars :)

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Now, now little icj1. You haven't even grasped the difference between a census roll and a voter registration list.
We'll get to the large chapter on "Failed States" after we cover the chapters on CIA overt and cover actions.
Please do have that diaper changed.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 4 May 2016 01:47) Ok, but for KiM that is less worse than being a dysfunctional fenced-in ghetto ruled by dysfunctional Serbian leaders.

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In the English language, "worse" is the comparative form of the adjective "bad" and means "more bad".

icj1's ungrammatical double comparative "less worse" literally translates to "less more bad".

By your convoluted logic, a reader may agree that one dysfunctional leader is "less more bad" than another.

However, dysfunction in our discussion is associated with leadership and not ethnicity; unless you are demented apartheid bigot.

Reader

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).

j

pre 7 godina

I have to agree with AY on this one. Formally, Serbia has not prevented Kosovo's citizens to vote (as far as I know at least). In practice, everyone knows that will never happen. I don't think Vucic and CO want that, and most importantly the Kosovo Albanian citizens don't want that. So, yeah there is a "let's pretend Kosovo is ours" component in the comments here and Serbian politics. It's a waste of time in my opinion to talk about unreal things like this but it is your time not mine :).
(Reader, 6 May 2016 18:09)

Sure it has prevented Albanian's from voting. It purged them from the voting list when the Serb Constitution was voted; the highest law of the Serbian state. Get this. It only purged Kosova Albanians, not Kosova Serbs. Even better, this was at a time when negotiations were going on the status of Kosova. To make things better Serbia had agreed prior to these negotiations that no side was going to unilaterally take any steps with regards to the status. Guess what the "new" Serb constitution was about? Claiming Kosova to be a part of Serbia. This, when this issue was being negotiated, where Albanians weren't allowed to vote for their own status, when Serbia had agreed not take any unilateral steps as with regards to the status. The violations are midnboggling for a republic claiming to be democratic. Only after this constitution was enacted, without Kosova Albanian representation, was independence declared.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 7 May 2016 16:07) Yup, and the Serbian government fulfilled that mandate only for 106094 sane adults in KiM since it registered only 106094 of them in the single electoral roll. As for the rest, it did not consider them as citizens and it did not register them in the single electoral roll thus not allowing them to vote.

So, it looks like your lesson of the day was still not that convincing for Serbia's government :) you want to give a further try?

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Certainly. We have much experience teaching the learning disabled.Don't be embarrassed by your ignorance of democratic processes.

In many democracies, individual citizens have a choice as to whether they wish to register and vote. Citizens who choose not to register are not placed on the voter registry. The Sebian government fullfiled the mandate for all citizens. For those that chose to register, their names were placed on the registry. Citizens who chose not register, were not placed on the voter registry. A similar process works in many other countries. Please consult similar voter registration process in jurisdictions such as the USA. Citizens are required to register themselves and governments can not force citizens to register.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

(icj1, 8 May 2016 16:58) Dear, you are totally ignorant on how things work in Serbia in regards to the electoral roll. Serbian law mandates Serbia's government to register in the electoral vote all persons having the right to vote as of the day of the election. A person having the right to vote is not required to choose to register in order to get registered in the electoral roll.

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You obviously didn't read assigned reading on the The Law on Single Electoral Roll that entered into force in Serbia in December 2011.

If you could read, you would have learned that the municipal governments, and not the Serbian government, manage voter registration. A permanent voter registration list is maintained by the municipal governments based on permanent residence and citizenship. It's the voters responsibility to ensure the data is entered and accurate. The municipal/town administrations maintain a permanent electronic database of this voter information. The municipal electronic data is used in the "single electoral Roll" during voting processes in Serbia.

mattko

pre 7 godina

UEFA is a private association that operates on the principle of profit as well as all other private companies and joint stock companies . If it were not so there would be no progress and new profits. Who does not like you may join the multitude of non-profit organizations , instead of grieving and going on about some sort of injustice . Evidence that according to the principles of justice no progress is Darwin's theory of evolution. Nobody protested when the snake swallowed a frog and then come Mongoose to ask whether the snake is ready to serve for his next meal. So it goes , justice is always one-sided and imaginary , survive those who know how not to be eaten , or are at least willing to learn