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U.S. analysts: Serbians choose EU, reject Russia

The convincing victory of Aleksandar Vucic and his SNS party in the elections last Sunday was expected, American analysts believe.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL.
(sj, 3 May 2016 08:38)

Well, Russia is a NET oil exporter, whereas the US is a NET oil importer. "Importer" is the opposite of "exporter". So obviously a movement in oil prices would have opposite impact. But I totally agree that it is the duty of US to obey the command of the CE of B92 forums sj and become a NET oil exporter so that low oil prices can have the same impact in the US as in Russia, in accordance with the wishes of the CE of B92 forums sj. If there is a conflict between reality and the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, it is the reality that is wrong and must change, not the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1
leave the fed alone.
(Leonidas, 3 May 2016 08:56)

Of course, since it looks like my prior post was successful in helping you address your ignorance :)

sj

pre 8 godina

The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

Only when using an Albanian calculator. To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL. Where do you get these ideas from? Is there a team of Albanians who come out with idiotic statements for you to use? Is it any wonder your our resident AI.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

The Fed is authorized by law to do what's doing (like any central bank). But if you were to do the same, than yes that would be fraud and counterfeiting because the law prohibits you from doing that because you are not a central bank.

For an analogy, if you suspect that somebody has committed a crime and you put that person in a cell, you are committing the crime of kidnapping. But if a police officer does the same thing, that is not a crime.

These are very simple concepts mate, you don't need a PhD to understand them :)
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when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

And still the reality continues to refuse obeying your wishes lol that must mean something... :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

OMG, has anybody attacked mother Russia?! Probably you are aware of some news that few other people, if any, are aware of :)

sj

pre 8 godina

(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20
The Serbia’s current problem, which it is trying very hard to correct, is employment. There are simply not enough jobs since most industry was either closed or collapsed during the 1990s. If you don’t have taxes coming in you can’t fix anything and the few industries that are still going have to be subsidised, i.e iron works in Smederevo, otherwise 5000 unemployed.
The US budget is unsustainable and cannot be fixed quickly no matter what BS they tell you. In simple terms each year the US budget is short of $1 trillion. Don’t borrow that $1 trillion and see what happens. Your future liabilities are estimated anywhere between $150 to 200 trillion. The only way to fix pensions is to make people work until they drop.
The currently US has 23% unemployed not 5.9% and it also has 100 million out 320 million living on or below the poverty line. Successive US governments are run by corporations who are sucking the life blood out of that country and they are just as corrupt as governments in Ukraine, Nigeria or Venezuela.
Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 May 2016 12

More free ,than your people "Clown of Lies".

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.
(Skenderbeu 1444
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Who is going to buy you three stores which are making losses?
Your assets are worthless.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Russia is a threat to the aggressive, morally, spiritually and physically bankrupt world hegemon and its NATO slaves who serve the decrepit destroyer of civilizations! The dead who cheer on their own destruction bear testament to His words that read “and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder: and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" Only Russia has the technical and physical resources to keep the beast in check. The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments. The EU is the tool of Apol'lyon and this bottomless pit is where you are throwing your futures into, are we to see Serbs fighting Russians as part of a European/Atlantic Army? Do you believe you can be neutral when decisions will be made for you in Brussels by unelected technocrats? Is this your prosperity, your yellow brick road? When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Let's hope it's true revelation this time, and not just a single political campaign. Serbia should impose sanctions on Russia IMMEDIATELY.
Russia is a single greatest threat to humanity, yet we consider them allies because we can't let go of the latest conflict with the West and accept responsibility.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.
(Jugoslavija, 29 April 2016 20:05)

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.

rote

pre 8 godina

Russians and Amricans about preventive nuke strikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcnYI-G9mR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK64aTNFmsA

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20)

Not correct, the budget deficit is not sustainable right now and the US cannot cover 6 trillion in pension liability and 13 trillion in Treasury bills. The only possible solution is a dual strategy, start lowering the large balance of trade deficits with other countries , encourage capital inflows and investments at an astronomical rate and the biggest one, reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 29 April 2016 14:30) # Comment link

Agreed but the US does not have the liquidity to pay 6 trillion in pension liability and another 13 trillion in treasury bills.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)

Your toilet paper called Pristina Economics 101 is not helping you out. Why don't you actually go the US government site and download the financial statements and then we can talk. The US does not have enough assets to even cover it's outstanding Treasury bills and pension liabilities. https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/finrep/fr/fr_index.htm

Josip

pre 8 godina

Dear macroeconomics experts,
Some fiscal factoids:
Serbia's budget deficit and debt to GDP are very high, but manageable if the government gets some of the cash-sucking state enterprises off the books or running semi-rationally.
The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
Russia has huge problems, primarily due to an overreliance on oil and gas, corrupt leadership, and hostility toward entrepreneurs. For a summary see http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21688932-russias-economic-problems-move-acute-chronic-phase-two.
A corrupt and inept government can destroy an economy pretty easily, even in countries with lots of talented and motivated people. Just ask Venezuelans, Ukrainians, Nigerians, and sadly pretty much any citizens that are paying attention to what their government is doing.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

Jugosllavia and ijc1 I can give you my personal example. I have three little stores in Albania and these are my assets. Then I have a lot of debts because people here don’t have the money to buy their food and they tell me to write their names in the list. I told my economist to write my list of debts in the balance sheet. People will pay when they have some money, when they receive their pensions or when the emigrants return. Last time that the tax police came to my store I showed them the list of the debts and told them that I can’t pay taxes if the people don’t pay me. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.

sj

pre 8 godina

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)
The rambling nonsense continues ad-nauseum. Babbling its usual drivel about nothing and no one. Its constant talk about a third non-existent party and assets that do not exist and coming to conclusions that are laughable except to the mentally challanged.

icj1

pre 8 godina

the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?
(jugoslavija, 28 April 2016 20:47)

Yeah, the balance sheet in most of the world is something that has assets and liabilities and what matters is assets minus liabilities, not just liabilities.

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.
(Michael Thomas, 28 April 2016 12:29
=====================================
Charisma should really have nothing to do with who gets elected. Why are people so hung up on charisma?
Why can't they just strip their policies to bare nuts and bolts and examine them? Vucic has shown that he wants a ticket on Titanic so badly he doesn't even care that their true face has been exposed over and over. France is making noises about ceasing sanctions against Russia and UK about leaving EU. Serbs want to be liked by the west so much that they have lost all perspective.
Yes, when polled majoirty are against EU and NATO but when the time came to vote anti EU parties in they couldn't even bother to get off their behinds to vote as if all of a sudden Vucic will abandon his policies because of the polls. He thinks he has a mandate now.
Seeing how Serbia had an opportunity to forge close ties with Russia and not elect someone who by the sounds of things will eventually turn on Russia and they threw that away.
Whatever happens over there now is richly deserved.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

To Josip,I will bet you double or nothing ,of 18 Trillion dollars USA debt, that Russia isn't broke .You will find USA broke of 18 Trillion Dollar's. Learn your math's and economic's,not from Shqiptar school!.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

Its the opposite, the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?

Josip

pre 8 godina

In the end, for 90% of voters it is all about economics - who do the voters think is most likely to put the country in a position to create decent jobs for the kids, pensions for the retirees, and pay for much-needed improvements to schools, hospitals, roads, etc.? The SNS' opponents either have been proven failures at generating economic growth - and in some cases (Socialists, Radicals) have engineered a collapse of the economy - or allowed corruption to thrive (almost everyone). SNS hasn't done anything much yet but at least made a show of taking on some vested interests. This election was not about the EU (which is losing popularity and having huge internal problems) or Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices) and certainly had nothing to do with the US, which isn't very relevant to Serbian citizens.

rote

pre 8 godina

Skenderbeu : What are those specialists doing in Donbass?

I can tell you what’s going on in Donbass and the Ukraine. Ther West seeks a pretext to get rid of the annoying client with Russopobia as the only exporting item. Discrediting campaign has already started in Europe and the money flood was stopped last autumn. Meanwhile the Russian side behave like in an old Chinese saying – IF YOU SIT ON BANK OF THE RIVER LONG YOUR ENEMY’S DEAD BODY WILL FLOAT BY SOONER OR LATER. Looks like it may happen by the fall of the year.


Dragoljub Djurkovic

I gave you my POOR COMMENT ... I am disappointed as much as you do but I am not panic as I know the status quo in Serbia today. What I hate most is how Serbs let themselves be cheated so cheap … Yet don’t be panic as sooner or later Vucic will have to unmask himself to show the distance between the declared goals and the quisling dances. I am more worried about Seselj and I will always suspect him for escaping Hague so happily. It was too good especially if we compare it with the 40 years of Karadjic!

110%

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub you worry too much. You are starting to become paranoid like the Saudis,Turks, the Brits, and the the western european leaders and Nato freeloaders. If they believed that Hillary would be the next president they would all still be grinning and singing happy songs of yesteryear. BUT, they know that Trump will mop the floor with Hillary and become very friendly with Putin.
P.S. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0XO10R

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Skanderbeu,

Maybe you want my address, phone number, social security number and the PIN code of my bank card as well? Sorry, not going to happen.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

@ Ataman

What are those specialists doing in Donbass? Maybe they are playing chess? Maybe the servers can be remotely rebooted? I can do that but can you have them send a picture of those servers? Hey Ataman don't have them send a picture of the checkerboard ha ha

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia Demonstrate commitment to the USA?

All I can say is that is OK with me, all the Serbian people who turn their backs on our Dear Mother Russia they can get their knee pads out now and start demonstrating their love to the USA!

Soon Serbia will learn again how much the USA loves you, Mrs. Hilly Billy is going to become the next USA president this fall and you all will see what will happen to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans!

So Sad but the reality is true, it's a cold cruel world out there especially if you are among the innocent Eastern Orthodox Chritianity!!!

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Dell Server error, check and replace your drives. Full RAID rebuild required.
Don't use that server, it's non-working junk.

There are several specialists in Donbass area... surprisingly working for American companies out of the area you expect the least.

They know how bad your servers are. They have better solutions.

This is not a joke, by the way. It's truth, I know some involved in person.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

I remember a BBC reporter talking about a conversation he had in the 1990s with an “ordinary Serb.” He asked how would be vote in upcoming election. “for Slobodan Milosevic,” said the Serb. “But why not for Kostunica or someone else” asked the man from the BBC. “When Kostunica is leader, I will vote for him” replied the Serb.
This was a rare occasion when the BBC actually got to the truth about Serbia. The Serbian public want an effective leader who they can support. They voted for Tadic until someone more effective came along, and they will vote for Vucic until a new credible leader emerges. Dr Seselj has been so demonised by the west that he will most likely not be an effective leader. Apart from Seselj I can’t see a credible rival to Vucic.
Support for a leader does not however translate into support for all the actions of that leader. Vucic has put Tony Blair in charge of government Ministries, 90% of Serbs hate that. He has severely undermined Serbian sovereignty in Kosovo, 90% of Serbs are against that. He has given NATO carte blanche to transit through Serbia, again, 90% of Serbs are furious about this. He is stream rolling Serbia towards the bankrupt and totalitarian EU, more than 50% of Serbs don’t want this. A majority of Serbis want closer economic and cultural ties with Russia, we shall see how that one develops.
The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.

sj

pre 8 godina

With policy analysts like Daniel Serwer is it any wonder the US is down the proverbial toilet. Its policy geniuses like this guy that has guided the US to victory after victory in Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Syria and South China Sea LOL.
This is the usual diatribe that is blurted out when the US has little control but wants to appear as if they already knew the final results of an outcome. What they are trying to trowel over is the fact that the Washington poured huge sums of money into the “united” opposition ala Tadic, Pajkic and that supreme dingbat, Cedo Jovanovic and they got a terrible result.

Stan

pre 8 godina

This Serwer is a Serb hater of the first order. I have listened to his bile for years. Impose sanctions on Russia for defending its people in eastern Ukraine!? Ignore.

Stan

pre 8 godina

This Serwer is a Serb hater of the first order. I have listened to his bile for years. Impose sanctions on Russia for defending its people in eastern Ukraine!? Ignore.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

I remember a BBC reporter talking about a conversation he had in the 1990s with an “ordinary Serb.” He asked how would be vote in upcoming election. “for Slobodan Milosevic,” said the Serb. “But why not for Kostunica or someone else” asked the man from the BBC. “When Kostunica is leader, I will vote for him” replied the Serb.
This was a rare occasion when the BBC actually got to the truth about Serbia. The Serbian public want an effective leader who they can support. They voted for Tadic until someone more effective came along, and they will vote for Vucic until a new credible leader emerges. Dr Seselj has been so demonised by the west that he will most likely not be an effective leader. Apart from Seselj I can’t see a credible rival to Vucic.
Support for a leader does not however translate into support for all the actions of that leader. Vucic has put Tony Blair in charge of government Ministries, 90% of Serbs hate that. He has severely undermined Serbian sovereignty in Kosovo, 90% of Serbs are against that. He has given NATO carte blanche to transit through Serbia, again, 90% of Serbs are furious about this. He is stream rolling Serbia towards the bankrupt and totalitarian EU, more than 50% of Serbs don’t want this. A majority of Serbis want closer economic and cultural ties with Russia, we shall see how that one develops.
The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.

sj

pre 8 godina

With policy analysts like Daniel Serwer is it any wonder the US is down the proverbial toilet. Its policy geniuses like this guy that has guided the US to victory after victory in Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Syria and South China Sea LOL.
This is the usual diatribe that is blurted out when the US has little control but wants to appear as if they already knew the final results of an outcome. What they are trying to trowel over is the fact that the Washington poured huge sums of money into the “united” opposition ala Tadic, Pajkic and that supreme dingbat, Cedo Jovanovic and they got a terrible result.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Dell Server error, check and replace your drives. Full RAID rebuild required.
Don't use that server, it's non-working junk.

There are several specialists in Donbass area... surprisingly working for American companies out of the area you expect the least.

They know how bad your servers are. They have better solutions.

This is not a joke, by the way. It's truth, I know some involved in person.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia Demonstrate commitment to the USA?

All I can say is that is OK with me, all the Serbian people who turn their backs on our Dear Mother Russia they can get their knee pads out now and start demonstrating their love to the USA!

Soon Serbia will learn again how much the USA loves you, Mrs. Hilly Billy is going to become the next USA president this fall and you all will see what will happen to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans!

So Sad but the reality is true, it's a cold cruel world out there especially if you are among the innocent Eastern Orthodox Chritianity!!!

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

Its the opposite, the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20)

Not correct, the budget deficit is not sustainable right now and the US cannot cover 6 trillion in pension liability and 13 trillion in Treasury bills. The only possible solution is a dual strategy, start lowering the large balance of trade deficits with other countries , encourage capital inflows and investments at an astronomical rate and the biggest one, reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Skanderbeu,

Maybe you want my address, phone number, social security number and the PIN code of my bank card as well? Sorry, not going to happen.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.
(Jugoslavija, 29 April 2016 20:05)

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Let's hope it's true revelation this time, and not just a single political campaign. Serbia should impose sanctions on Russia IMMEDIATELY.
Russia is a single greatest threat to humanity, yet we consider them allies because we can't let go of the latest conflict with the West and accept responsibility.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Russia is a threat to the aggressive, morally, spiritually and physically bankrupt world hegemon and its NATO slaves who serve the decrepit destroyer of civilizations! The dead who cheer on their own destruction bear testament to His words that read “and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder: and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" Only Russia has the technical and physical resources to keep the beast in check. The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments. The EU is the tool of Apol'lyon and this bottomless pit is where you are throwing your futures into, are we to see Serbs fighting Russians as part of a European/Atlantic Army? Do you believe you can be neutral when decisions will be made for you in Brussels by unelected technocrats? Is this your prosperity, your yellow brick road? When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.

icj1

pre 8 godina

the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?
(jugoslavija, 28 April 2016 20:47)

Yeah, the balance sheet in most of the world is something that has assets and liabilities and what matters is assets minus liabilities, not just liabilities.

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

To Josip,I will bet you double or nothing ,of 18 Trillion dollars USA debt, that Russia isn't broke .You will find USA broke of 18 Trillion Dollar's. Learn your math's and economic's,not from Shqiptar school!.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.
(Michael Thomas, 28 April 2016 12:29
=====================================
Charisma should really have nothing to do with who gets elected. Why are people so hung up on charisma?
Why can't they just strip their policies to bare nuts and bolts and examine them? Vucic has shown that he wants a ticket on Titanic so badly he doesn't even care that their true face has been exposed over and over. France is making noises about ceasing sanctions against Russia and UK about leaving EU. Serbs want to be liked by the west so much that they have lost all perspective.
Yes, when polled majoirty are against EU and NATO but when the time came to vote anti EU parties in they couldn't even bother to get off their behinds to vote as if all of a sudden Vucic will abandon his policies because of the polls. He thinks he has a mandate now.
Seeing how Serbia had an opportunity to forge close ties with Russia and not elect someone who by the sounds of things will eventually turn on Russia and they threw that away.
Whatever happens over there now is richly deserved.

sj

pre 8 godina

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)
The rambling nonsense continues ad-nauseum. Babbling its usual drivel about nothing and no one. Its constant talk about a third non-existent party and assets that do not exist and coming to conclusions that are laughable except to the mentally challanged.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)

Your toilet paper called Pristina Economics 101 is not helping you out. Why don't you actually go the US government site and download the financial statements and then we can talk. The US does not have enough assets to even cover it's outstanding Treasury bills and pension liabilities. https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/finrep/fr/fr_index.htm

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 29 April 2016 14:30) # Comment link

Agreed but the US does not have the liquidity to pay 6 trillion in pension liability and another 13 trillion in treasury bills.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

@ Ataman

What are those specialists doing in Donbass? Maybe they are playing chess? Maybe the servers can be remotely rebooted? I can do that but can you have them send a picture of those servers? Hey Ataman don't have them send a picture of the checkerboard ha ha

110%

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub you worry too much. You are starting to become paranoid like the Saudis,Turks, the Brits, and the the western european leaders and Nato freeloaders. If they believed that Hillary would be the next president they would all still be grinning and singing happy songs of yesteryear. BUT, they know that Trump will mop the floor with Hillary and become very friendly with Putin.
P.S. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0XO10R

rote

pre 8 godina

Skenderbeu : What are those specialists doing in Donbass?

I can tell you what’s going on in Donbass and the Ukraine. Ther West seeks a pretext to get rid of the annoying client with Russopobia as the only exporting item. Discrediting campaign has already started in Europe and the money flood was stopped last autumn. Meanwhile the Russian side behave like in an old Chinese saying – IF YOU SIT ON BANK OF THE RIVER LONG YOUR ENEMY’S DEAD BODY WILL FLOAT BY SOONER OR LATER. Looks like it may happen by the fall of the year.


Dragoljub Djurkovic

I gave you my POOR COMMENT ... I am disappointed as much as you do but I am not panic as I know the status quo in Serbia today. What I hate most is how Serbs let themselves be cheated so cheap … Yet don’t be panic as sooner or later Vucic will have to unmask himself to show the distance between the declared goals and the quisling dances. I am more worried about Seselj and I will always suspect him for escaping Hague so happily. It was too good especially if we compare it with the 40 years of Karadjic!

Josip

pre 8 godina

In the end, for 90% of voters it is all about economics - who do the voters think is most likely to put the country in a position to create decent jobs for the kids, pensions for the retirees, and pay for much-needed improvements to schools, hospitals, roads, etc.? The SNS' opponents either have been proven failures at generating economic growth - and in some cases (Socialists, Radicals) have engineered a collapse of the economy - or allowed corruption to thrive (almost everyone). SNS hasn't done anything much yet but at least made a show of taking on some vested interests. This election was not about the EU (which is losing popularity and having huge internal problems) or Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices) and certainly had nothing to do with the US, which isn't very relevant to Serbian citizens.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

Jugosllavia and ijc1 I can give you my personal example. I have three little stores in Albania and these are my assets. Then I have a lot of debts because people here don’t have the money to buy their food and they tell me to write their names in the list. I told my economist to write my list of debts in the balance sheet. People will pay when they have some money, when they receive their pensions or when the emigrants return. Last time that the tax police came to my store I showed them the list of the debts and told them that I can’t pay taxes if the people don’t pay me. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.

Josip

pre 8 godina

Dear macroeconomics experts,
Some fiscal factoids:
Serbia's budget deficit and debt to GDP are very high, but manageable if the government gets some of the cash-sucking state enterprises off the books or running semi-rationally.
The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
Russia has huge problems, primarily due to an overreliance on oil and gas, corrupt leadership, and hostility toward entrepreneurs. For a summary see http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21688932-russias-economic-problems-move-acute-chronic-phase-two.
A corrupt and inept government can destroy an economy pretty easily, even in countries with lots of talented and motivated people. Just ask Venezuelans, Ukrainians, Nigerians, and sadly pretty much any citizens that are paying attention to what their government is doing.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.
(Skenderbeu 1444
========================
Who is going to buy you three stores which are making losses?
Your assets are worthless.

rote

pre 8 godina

Russians and Amricans about preventive nuke strikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcnYI-G9mR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK64aTNFmsA

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 May 2016 12

More free ,than your people "Clown of Lies".

sj

pre 8 godina

(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20
The Serbia’s current problem, which it is trying very hard to correct, is employment. There are simply not enough jobs since most industry was either closed or collapsed during the 1990s. If you don’t have taxes coming in you can’t fix anything and the few industries that are still going have to be subsidised, i.e iron works in Smederevo, otherwise 5000 unemployed.
The US budget is unsustainable and cannot be fixed quickly no matter what BS they tell you. In simple terms each year the US budget is short of $1 trillion. Don’t borrow that $1 trillion and see what happens. Your future liabilities are estimated anywhere between $150 to 200 trillion. The only way to fix pensions is to make people work until they drop.
The currently US has 23% unemployed not 5.9% and it also has 100 million out 320 million living on or below the poverty line. Successive US governments are run by corporations who are sucking the life blood out of that country and they are just as corrupt as governments in Ukraine, Nigeria or Venezuela.
Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?

sj

pre 8 godina

The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

Only when using an Albanian calculator. To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL. Where do you get these ideas from? Is there a team of Albanians who come out with idiotic statements for you to use? Is it any wonder your our resident AI.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

OMG, has anybody attacked mother Russia?! Probably you are aware of some news that few other people, if any, are aware of :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

The Fed is authorized by law to do what's doing (like any central bank). But if you were to do the same, than yes that would be fraud and counterfeiting because the law prohibits you from doing that because you are not a central bank.

For an analogy, if you suspect that somebody has committed a crime and you put that person in a cell, you are committing the crime of kidnapping. But if a police officer does the same thing, that is not a crime.

These are very simple concepts mate, you don't need a PhD to understand them :)
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when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

And still the reality continues to refuse obeying your wishes lol that must mean something... :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1
leave the fed alone.
(Leonidas, 3 May 2016 08:56)

Of course, since it looks like my prior post was successful in helping you address your ignorance :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL.
(sj, 3 May 2016 08:38)

Well, Russia is a NET oil exporter, whereas the US is a NET oil importer. "Importer" is the opposite of "exporter". So obviously a movement in oil prices would have opposite impact. But I totally agree that it is the duty of US to obey the command of the CE of B92 forums sj and become a NET oil exporter so that low oil prices can have the same impact in the US as in Russia, in accordance with the wishes of the CE of B92 forums sj. If there is a conflict between reality and the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, it is the reality that is wrong and must change, not the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia Demonstrate commitment to the USA?

All I can say is that is OK with me, all the Serbian people who turn their backs on our Dear Mother Russia they can get their knee pads out now and start demonstrating their love to the USA!

Soon Serbia will learn again how much the USA loves you, Mrs. Hilly Billy is going to become the next USA president this fall and you all will see what will happen to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans!

So Sad but the reality is true, it's a cold cruel world out there especially if you are among the innocent Eastern Orthodox Chritianity!!!

Vojvodina

pre 8 godina

Let's hope it's true revelation this time, and not just a single political campaign. Serbia should impose sanctions on Russia IMMEDIATELY.
Russia is a single greatest threat to humanity, yet we consider them allies because we can't let go of the latest conflict with the West and accept responsibility.

rote

pre 8 godina

Skenderbeu : What are those specialists doing in Donbass?

I can tell you what’s going on in Donbass and the Ukraine. Ther West seeks a pretext to get rid of the annoying client with Russopobia as the only exporting item. Discrediting campaign has already started in Europe and the money flood was stopped last autumn. Meanwhile the Russian side behave like in an old Chinese saying – IF YOU SIT ON BANK OF THE RIVER LONG YOUR ENEMY’S DEAD BODY WILL FLOAT BY SOONER OR LATER. Looks like it may happen by the fall of the year.


Dragoljub Djurkovic

I gave you my POOR COMMENT ... I am disappointed as much as you do but I am not panic as I know the status quo in Serbia today. What I hate most is how Serbs let themselves be cheated so cheap … Yet don’t be panic as sooner or later Vucic will have to unmask himself to show the distance between the declared goals and the quisling dances. I am more worried about Seselj and I will always suspect him for escaping Hague so happily. It was too good especially if we compare it with the 40 years of Karadjic!

sj

pre 8 godina

With policy analysts like Daniel Serwer is it any wonder the US is down the proverbial toilet. Its policy geniuses like this guy that has guided the US to victory after victory in Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Syria and South China Sea LOL.
This is the usual diatribe that is blurted out when the US has little control but wants to appear as if they already knew the final results of an outcome. What they are trying to trowel over is the fact that the Washington poured huge sums of money into the “united” opposition ala Tadic, Pajkic and that supreme dingbat, Cedo Jovanovic and they got a terrible result.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

@ Ataman

What are those specialists doing in Donbass? Maybe they are playing chess? Maybe the servers can be remotely rebooted? I can do that but can you have them send a picture of those servers? Hey Ataman don't have them send a picture of the checkerboard ha ha

110%

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub you worry too much. You are starting to become paranoid like the Saudis,Turks, the Brits, and the the western european leaders and Nato freeloaders. If they believed that Hillary would be the next president they would all still be grinning and singing happy songs of yesteryear. BUT, they know that Trump will mop the floor with Hillary and become very friendly with Putin.
P.S. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0XO10R

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

Its the opposite, the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?

Josip

pre 8 godina

In the end, for 90% of voters it is all about economics - who do the voters think is most likely to put the country in a position to create decent jobs for the kids, pensions for the retirees, and pay for much-needed improvements to schools, hospitals, roads, etc.? The SNS' opponents either have been proven failures at generating economic growth - and in some cases (Socialists, Radicals) have engineered a collapse of the economy - or allowed corruption to thrive (almost everyone). SNS hasn't done anything much yet but at least made a show of taking on some vested interests. This election was not about the EU (which is losing popularity and having huge internal problems) or Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices) and certainly had nothing to do with the US, which isn't very relevant to Serbian citizens.

Stan

pre 8 godina

This Serwer is a Serb hater of the first order. I have listened to his bile for years. Impose sanctions on Russia for defending its people in eastern Ukraine!? Ignore.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Russia (which is near bankruptcy and has nothing to offer other than supportive talk and hopefully a break on gas prices)
(Josip, 28 April 2016 20:21)

To Josip,I will bet you double or nothing ,of 18 Trillion dollars USA debt, that Russia isn't broke .You will find USA broke of 18 Trillion Dollar's. Learn your math's and economic's,not from Shqiptar school!.

icj1

pre 8 godina

the US is near bankruptcy with 19 trillion in debt not Russia where the debt levels are next to non-existent. Do you know what a balance sheet is?
(jugoslavija, 28 April 2016 20:47)

Yeah, the balance sheet in most of the world is something that has assets and liabilities and what matters is assets minus liabilities, not just liabilities.

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)

rote

pre 8 godina

Russians and Amricans about preventive nuke strikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcnYI-G9mR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK64aTNFmsA

Peggy

pre 8 godina

The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.
(Michael Thomas, 28 April 2016 12:29
=====================================
Charisma should really have nothing to do with who gets elected. Why are people so hung up on charisma?
Why can't they just strip their policies to bare nuts and bolts and examine them? Vucic has shown that he wants a ticket on Titanic so badly he doesn't even care that their true face has been exposed over and over. France is making noises about ceasing sanctions against Russia and UK about leaving EU. Serbs want to be liked by the west so much that they have lost all perspective.
Yes, when polled majoirty are against EU and NATO but when the time came to vote anti EU parties in they couldn't even bother to get off their behinds to vote as if all of a sudden Vucic will abandon his policies because of the polls. He thinks he has a mandate now.
Seeing how Serbia had an opportunity to forge close ties with Russia and not elect someone who by the sounds of things will eventually turn on Russia and they threw that away.
Whatever happens over there now is richly deserved.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 8 godina

Jugosllavia and ijc1 I can give you my personal example. I have three little stores in Albania and these are my assets. Then I have a lot of debts because people here don’t have the money to buy their food and they tell me to write their names in the list. I told my economist to write my list of debts in the balance sheet. People will pay when they have some money, when they receive their pensions or when the emigrants return. Last time that the tax police came to my store I showed them the list of the debts and told them that I can’t pay taxes if the people don’t pay me. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.

Josip

pre 8 godina

Dear macroeconomics experts,
Some fiscal factoids:
Serbia's budget deficit and debt to GDP are very high, but manageable if the government gets some of the cash-sucking state enterprises off the books or running semi-rationally.
The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
Russia has huge problems, primarily due to an overreliance on oil and gas, corrupt leadership, and hostility toward entrepreneurs. For a summary see http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21688932-russias-economic-problems-move-acute-chronic-phase-two.
A corrupt and inept government can destroy an economy pretty easily, even in countries with lots of talented and motivated people. Just ask Venezuelans, Ukrainians, Nigerians, and sadly pretty much any citizens that are paying attention to what their government is doing.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

I remember a BBC reporter talking about a conversation he had in the 1990s with an “ordinary Serb.” He asked how would be vote in upcoming election. “for Slobodan Milosevic,” said the Serb. “But why not for Kostunica or someone else” asked the man from the BBC. “When Kostunica is leader, I will vote for him” replied the Serb.
This was a rare occasion when the BBC actually got to the truth about Serbia. The Serbian public want an effective leader who they can support. They voted for Tadic until someone more effective came along, and they will vote for Vucic until a new credible leader emerges. Dr Seselj has been so demonised by the west that he will most likely not be an effective leader. Apart from Seselj I can’t see a credible rival to Vucic.
Support for a leader does not however translate into support for all the actions of that leader. Vucic has put Tony Blair in charge of government Ministries, 90% of Serbs hate that. He has severely undermined Serbian sovereignty in Kosovo, 90% of Serbs are against that. He has given NATO carte blanche to transit through Serbia, again, 90% of Serbs are furious about this. He is stream rolling Serbia towards the bankrupt and totalitarian EU, more than 50% of Serbs don’t want this. A majority of Serbis want closer economic and cultural ties with Russia, we shall see how that one develops.
The only way for patriotic Serbs to resist the Blairite neocons who control Serbia is to find a charismatic young patriot to challenge Vucic.

sj

pre 8 godina

But reading your comment, it looks like in Serbia balance sheets have liabilities only, in which case your comment makes perfect sense :)
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)
The rambling nonsense continues ad-nauseum. Babbling its usual drivel about nothing and no one. Its constant talk about a third non-existent party and assets that do not exist and coming to conclusions that are laughable except to the mentally challanged.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.
(Jugoslavija, 29 April 2016 20:05)

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The US budget deficit is currently sustainable and can be financed quite cheaply but public finances are heading for huge problems in the next five years, primarily because of a failure to reform the pension system.
(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20)

Not correct, the budget deficit is not sustainable right now and the US cannot cover 6 trillion in pension liability and 13 trillion in Treasury bills. The only possible solution is a dual strategy, start lowering the large balance of trade deficits with other countries , encourage capital inflows and investments at an astronomical rate and the biggest one, reform the US Federal Reserve which has a licence to print money.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Russia is a threat to the aggressive, morally, spiritually and physically bankrupt world hegemon and its NATO slaves who serve the decrepit destroyer of civilizations! The dead who cheer on their own destruction bear testament to His words that read “and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder: and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" Only Russia has the technical and physical resources to keep the beast in check. The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments. The EU is the tool of Apol'lyon and this bottomless pit is where you are throwing your futures into, are we to see Serbs fighting Russians as part of a European/Atlantic Army? Do you believe you can be neutral when decisions will be made for you in Brussels by unelected technocrats? Is this your prosperity, your yellow brick road? When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Dell Server error, check and replace your drives. Full RAID rebuild required.
Don't use that server, it's non-working junk.

There are several specialists in Donbass area... surprisingly working for American companies out of the area you expect the least.

They know how bad your servers are. They have better solutions.

This is not a joke, by the way. It's truth, I know some involved in person.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Skanderbeu,

Maybe you want my address, phone number, social security number and the PIN code of my bank card as well? Sorry, not going to happen.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

In other words mate, if, hypothetically, you were to have a debt of 500 and assets of 2000, you would be better off than me having a debt of 30 and assets of 100, despite the fact that your debt would be much higher than mine.
(icj1, 29 April 2016 02:31)

Your toilet paper called Pristina Economics 101 is not helping you out. Why don't you actually go the US government site and download the financial statements and then we can talk. The US does not have enough assets to even cover it's outstanding Treasury bills and pension liabilities. https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/finrep/fr/fr_index.htm

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

When you realize that you are not free then the process of freedom is initiated.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If anyone was to try and print money for loans without the real collateral or assets to back those loans they would be accused of fraud and counterfeiting, yet this is exactly what the Fed has been doing
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

The Fed is authorized by law to do what's doing (like any central bank). But if you were to do the same, than yes that would be fraud and counterfeiting because the law prohibits you from doing that because you are not a central bank.

For an analogy, if you suspect that somebody has committed a crime and you put that person in a cell, you are committing the crime of kidnapping. But if a police officer does the same thing, that is not a crime.

These are very simple concepts mate, you don't need a PhD to understand them :)
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when it should have gone bankrupt as a bank years ago.
(Leonidas, 30 April 2016 10:30)

And still the reality continues to refuse obeying your wishes lol that must mean something... :)

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 29 April 2016 14:30) # Comment link

Agreed but the US does not have the liquidity to pay 6 trillion in pension liability and another 13 trillion in treasury bills.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

. But I still have three stores and I can sell them and pay my debts if the business doesn’t work. So Ataman I don’t need your bank account. You want to look like Snowden. Rote is a very good person.
(Skenderbeu 1444
========================
Who is going to buy you three stores which are making losses?
Your assets are worthless.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

The mind twisting mantra that Russia is aggressive when it is only acting defensively is typical of the inversion of reality that the insane indulge in and the sane laments.
(The Driver, 30 April 2016 19:04)

OMG, has anybody attacked mother Russia?! Probably you are aware of some news that few other people, if any, are aware of :)

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 8 godina

Your words of wisdom, from above, indicate the Serbs are rather far from being free.
(The Count of Kosova, 1 May 2016 12

More free ,than your people "Clown of Lies".

sj

pre 8 godina

(Josip, 29 April 2016 15:20
The Serbia’s current problem, which it is trying very hard to correct, is employment. There are simply not enough jobs since most industry was either closed or collapsed during the 1990s. If you don’t have taxes coming in you can’t fix anything and the few industries that are still going have to be subsidised, i.e iron works in Smederevo, otherwise 5000 unemployed.
The US budget is unsustainable and cannot be fixed quickly no matter what BS they tell you. In simple terms each year the US budget is short of $1 trillion. Don’t borrow that $1 trillion and see what happens. Your future liabilities are estimated anywhere between $150 to 200 trillion. The only way to fix pensions is to make people work until they drop.
The currently US has 23% unemployed not 5.9% and it also has 100 million out 320 million living on or below the poverty line. Successive US governments are run by corporations who are sucking the life blood out of that country and they are just as corrupt as governments in Ukraine, Nigeria or Venezuela.
Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?

sj

pre 8 godina

The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

Only when using an Albanian calculator. To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL. Where do you get these ideas from? Is there a team of Albanians who come out with idiotic statements for you to use? Is it any wonder your our resident AI.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes the price of oil is hurting Russia but this also affects the US just as much as all other oil producing countries. The claim that the US now is the largest producer of oil but is not affected by low process is nonsense. How are they doing that? Magic wand?
(sj, 2 May 2016 14:56)

Even though the US is one of the top oil producers, the US is still a net consumer of oil (it consumes more oil than it produces). So, yes, the CE of B92 forums sj is absolutely right, as always. The US is indeed affected (in a positive way) by low oil prices.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 May 2016 15:45)

To make a claim that low oil prices have a positive effect in the US, but the opposite on Russia, only a buffoon would write that LOL.
(sj, 3 May 2016 08:38)

Well, Russia is a NET oil exporter, whereas the US is a NET oil importer. "Importer" is the opposite of "exporter". So obviously a movement in oil prices would have opposite impact. But I totally agree that it is the duty of US to obey the command of the CE of B92 forums sj and become a NET oil exporter so that low oil prices can have the same impact in the US as in Russia, in accordance with the wishes of the CE of B92 forums sj. If there is a conflict between reality and the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, it is the reality that is wrong and must change, not the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1
leave the fed alone.
(Leonidas, 3 May 2016 08:56)

Of course, since it looks like my prior post was successful in helping you address your ignorance :)