Serbians strongly support EU accession - EC

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.

That is utter BS and everyone know it too. Vucic has to tread very carefully with this one because its not going to be a forgone conclusion as most people in Serbia know there are no more pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

As many have posted previously the good times in the EU are over otherwise why would the Poles have over 2 million of its citizens working outside of Poland and things are even worse in the Baltic states, Slovenia, Hungary or Croatia.
The election itself was not a resounding victory nor an endorsement for Vucic or any of the so called western-leaning parties. To have this endorsement Vucic would need 60% of the vote. In fact the Radicals made huge gains.

No, we do not.

Is this the same EU that took part in the 78 day Blitz on Serbia?seems to me many serbs are sleep walking into oblivion.

ZORAN : In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election

THAT’S WHY HIDDEN ENEMY HAS AWAYS BEEN WORSE THAN AN OPEN ONE. VUCIC MADE HIS BEST TO BAR THE EU REFERENDUM THUS REPLACING A CLEAR QUESTION WITH WE LOVE RUSSIA & USA BUT WE GO TO FRAU MERKEL SLOGAN.

6F58

Why the huge announcement with no data to back it up? The EC should not confuse the things that Serbs would want to do even if the EU did not exist with a passion for the EU.

People get elected in Serbia for the same reasons they get elected anywhere. They are people perceived best to get some job done. Has Seselj ever demonstrated any competence as an elected official? Who cares what his sympathies are if he can't handle the office?

Serbia can't afford to look like its neighbors in Croatia and Albania -- all talk and no reading or writing, or hard thinking. Vucic may not have a lot of hair on his chest, but he does seem to be running things.

Complete bollocks. Nobody I know here in Vojvodina supports Serbian entry to the EU.

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.
(Zoran, 26 April 2016 14:34)
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I agree that EU is trying to manipulate the result and give Vucic the mandate but people themselves have given him the mandate by not turning up to vote. If you don't use your right to vote then you can't complain if results don't go your way. People who have bothered to come to vote obviously are EU orientated so they voted to Vucic. We all know what he stands for.
Nearly half of the electorate couldn't be bothered to vote so they can only go on what is not what should have been.
This was one thing people had control over and they stuffed that up too.

A classic example of "spin"

Do people really fall for this sh*t?

It's kind of offensive.

It makes people distrust the EU even more - not less.

Comm. Parrisson

I wonder what makes all professional Serbopobes here be so happy about the outcome of the voting? Also I wonder how long will it take Serbs to understand why their mortal enemies are so happy today? Finally I wonder if other Balkan peoples know that as soon as Serbia stops to resist he West all the neighbors will immediately feel it on their neighboring skins?

Is this the same EU that took part in the 78 day Blitz on Serbia?seems to me many serbs are sleep walking into oblivion.
(Englishman, 26 April 2016 23:0

It is the same EU,Austria that refused NATO to use their Airfields,and France,Italians that gave information to Slobo ,what points will be targeted,and Greece refusing NATO ship to dock in Greek port's!.
P's ,It was NATO, with different leaders,and not EU that bomb ,Serbia!.
But specially your Britian that insisted to Bomb Serbia!.

As many have posted previously the good times in the EU are over otherwise why would the Poles have over 2 million of its citizens working outside of Poland
(sj, 26 April 2016 15:09)

Yeah, I totally agree with the "many" posting here. It's a shame that the majority of the EU citizens does not read the posts of the "many" here to understand that the good times are over :)

Btw, is the CE of B92 forums sj aware where those 2 million Poles are working outside Poland? Russia? China?

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

It is the same EU,Austria that refused NATO to use their Airfields,and France,Italians that gave information to Slobo ,what points will be targeted,and Greece refusing NATO ship to dock in Greek port's!.
P's ,It was NATO, with different leaders,and not EU that bomb ,Serbia!.
But specially your Britian that insisted to Bomb Serbia!.

You are wrong,France and Italy along with most EU Countries were in volved in the criminal attack on Yugoslavia,also Germany,it was they who bombed Belgrade before if you remember,it doesn't matter who the Nato leadership was its still the same criminal gang now as it was then,why would you want to collaborate with those people when you should be turning to Russia who never bombed you,many Serbs deserve all they are going to get from the quislings in Belrade.

"The election itself was not a resounding victory nor an endorsement for Vucic or any of the so called western-leaning parties. To have this endorsement Vucic would need 60% of the vote. In fact the Radicals made huge gains."
(sj, 26 April 2016 15:09)

No? Interesting idea: A result of 60% only is a victory, an absolute majority of the MPs coming from the SNS is not enough for you.

If it's a 'huge gain' if a party gets 8% you could discuss about too. Then shouldn't be the some 6% for 'enough is enough' considered as an even huger gain? No, the extremists/nationalists (Radicals/Dveri/DSS) got some 13% of the votes in total, this is nothing huge. And who can be surprised that the Radicals get more support, now that their (in)glorious Fuhrer Seselj is back again?

I would worry more about the fact that the real democratic forces get less and less support.

But I agree, this elections was not only about EU accession, but much more. And yes, you can see the results as a strong mandate for Vucic to continue the chosen path he was going during the last years.

Well, it was not the EU that voted, it was not the EU that handled the election materials and it was not the EU that counted the votes. So, how can the EU manipulate the result and give Vucic the nandate?! There is a logical gap in your reasoning dear... it looks like you have some challenges thinking about cause and effect :)
(icj1, 27 April 2016 01:33)

Its called attempted wit from the witless LOL. Logic that only it knows about and can comprehend. Like the people seen everyday walking around laughing to themselves while muttering inaudibly talking to their hand or phone.

Complete bollocks. Nobody I know here in Vojvodina supports Serbian entry to the EU.
(notoeu, 26 April 2016 23:41)
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And how many voted to make sure that Vucic doesn't get back in. Serbs haven't learned to do what's good for them. They trust too much. Allowing others to take charge of your life is a huge mistake. By voting you take some control back. When are they going to learn that every vote counts?

I agree that EU is trying to manipulate the result and give Vucic the mandate
(Peggy, 27 April 2016 00:44)

Well, it was not the EU that voted, it was not the EU that handled the election materials and it was not the EU that counted the votes. So, how can the EU manipulate the result and give Vucic the nandate?! There is a logical gap in your reasoning dear... it looks like you have some challenges thinking about cause and effect :)

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.
(Zoran, 26 April 2016 14:34)

The only people who gave Vucic the mandate were the voters, and, as Peggy said, the non-voters too. Non-voters either don't care, don't like the alternatives, don't like democracy, are simply lazy, or they are satisfied with what's going on - anyway you can never know what they think without voting.

And since the politics of Vucic were clearly visible for everyone during the last years, the mandate is to continue the politics he was committed to in the last year - which is EU access, talks and normalization of the relationship with Kosovo, amongst others. The two anti-European parties got about 13% support, but this can have other reasons too, there might be Serbs who don't want EU access but refrain from voting for fascist parties like the Radicals.

You are wrong,France and Italy along with most EU Countries were in volved in the criminal attack on Yugoslavia,also Germany,it was they who bombed Belgrade before if you remember,it doesn't matter who the Nato leadership was its still the same criminal gang now as it was then,why would you want to collaborate with those people when you should be turning to Russia who never bombed you,many Serbs deserve all they are going to get from the quislings in Belrade.
(Englishman, 27 April 2016 13:42)

You don't get the difference, Serbia is NOT joining NATO,but EU,in say 4-5 years.It's a long way ,and anything can change. Serbia should not join anyone,and do business with anyone willing to invest.I mean anyone, Russia Belarus, Kazakhstan, China,Japan,South Korea,UAE,Iran,USA,EU countries,and any other country willing!.I am a Australian/BRITISH citizen living in Serbia,seeing the investment from foreign companies.
When you move and live in Serbia,you can join the radicals, and talk all you like about Russia,but to me ,I want the EURO'S, Dollar's ,Pound's,Rubles,Yuan Renmimbi,UAE Dirham,and any other currency invested in Serbia.I want Serbia to grow for my children, so they don't need to go to Australia or England to live and work.
P's French and Italian General's kept give Yugoslavia General's NATO secrets,about their bombing target's.That's why some Yugoslav Military Building site's where bomb with no one in the building.

"The election itself was not a resounding victory nor an endorsement for Vucic or any of the so called western-leaning parties. To have this endorsement Vucic would need 60% of the vote. In fact the Radicals made huge gains."
(sj, 26 April 2016 15:09)

No? Interesting idea: A result of 60% only is a victory, an absolute majority of the MPs coming from the SNS is not enough for you.

If it's a 'huge gain' if a party gets 8% you could discuss about too. Then shouldn't be the some 6% for 'enough is enough' considered as an even huger gain? No, the extremists/nationalists (Radicals/Dveri/DSS) got some 13% of the votes in total, this is nothing huge. And who can be surprised that the Radicals get more support, now that their (in)glorious Fuhrer Seselj is back again?

I would worry more about the fact that the real democratic forces get less and less support.

But I agree, this elections was not only about EU accession, but much more. And yes, you can see the results as a strong mandate for Vucic to continue the chosen path he was going during the last years.

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.

That is utter BS and everyone know it too. Vucic has to tread very carefully with this one because its not going to be a forgone conclusion as most people in Serbia know there are no more pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

As many have posted previously the good times in the EU are over otherwise why would the Poles have over 2 million of its citizens working outside of Poland and things are even worse in the Baltic states, Slovenia, Hungary or Croatia.
The election itself was not a resounding victory nor an endorsement for Vucic or any of the so called western-leaning parties. To have this endorsement Vucic would need 60% of the vote. In fact the Radicals made huge gains.

I agree that EU is trying to manipulate the result and give Vucic the mandate
(Peggy, 27 April 2016 00:44)

Well, it was not the EU that voted, it was not the EU that handled the election materials and it was not the EU that counted the votes. So, how can the EU manipulate the result and give Vucic the nandate?! There is a logical gap in your reasoning dear... it looks like you have some challenges thinking about cause and effect :)

ZORAN : In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election

THAT’S WHY HIDDEN ENEMY HAS AWAYS BEEN WORSE THAN AN OPEN ONE. VUCIC MADE HIS BEST TO BAR THE EU REFERENDUM THUS REPLACING A CLEAR QUESTION WITH WE LOVE RUSSIA & USA BUT WE GO TO FRAU MERKEL SLOGAN.

6F58

Complete bollocks. Nobody I know here in Vojvodina supports Serbian entry to the EU.

Is this the same EU that took part in the 78 day Blitz on Serbia?seems to me many serbs are sleep walking into oblivion.

As many have posted previously the good times in the EU are over otherwise why would the Poles have over 2 million of its citizens working outside of Poland
(sj, 26 April 2016 15:09)

Yeah, I totally agree with the "many" posting here. It's a shame that the majority of the EU citizens does not read the posts of the "many" here to understand that the good times are over :)

Btw, is the CE of B92 forums sj aware where those 2 million Poles are working outside Poland? Russia? China?

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Is this the same EU that took part in the 78 day Blitz on Serbia?seems to me many serbs are sleep walking into oblivion.
(Englishman, 26 April 2016 23:0

It is the same EU,Austria that refused NATO to use their Airfields,and France,Italians that gave information to Slobo ,what points will be targeted,and Greece refusing NATO ship to dock in Greek port's!.
P's ,It was NATO, with different leaders,and not EU that bomb ,Serbia!.
But specially your Britian that insisted to Bomb Serbia!.

Well, it was not the EU that voted, it was not the EU that handled the election materials and it was not the EU that counted the votes. So, how can the EU manipulate the result and give Vucic the nandate?! There is a logical gap in your reasoning dear... it looks like you have some challenges thinking about cause and effect :)
(icj1, 27 April 2016 01:33)

Its called attempted wit from the witless LOL. Logic that only it knows about and can comprehend. Like the people seen everyday walking around laughing to themselves while muttering inaudibly talking to their hand or phone.

No, we do not.

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.
(Zoran, 26 April 2016 14:34)
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I agree that EU is trying to manipulate the result and give Vucic the mandate but people themselves have given him the mandate by not turning up to vote. If you don't use your right to vote then you can't complain if results don't go your way. People who have bothered to come to vote obviously are EU orientated so they voted to Vucic. We all know what he stands for.
Nearly half of the electorate couldn't be bothered to vote so they can only go on what is not what should have been.
This was one thing people had control over and they stuffed that up too.

In the lasted poll, Serbia's support for EU membership was at about 30%. Now the EU is attempting to manipulate this election to serve its purpose and attempt to give Vucic a mandate to go against the people and in favour of the EU. This is Western "democracy" in action. In reality, it is a dictatorship.
(Zoran, 26 April 2016 14:34)

The only people who gave Vucic the mandate were the voters, and, as Peggy said, the non-voters too. Non-voters either don't care, don't like the alternatives, don't like democracy, are simply lazy, or they are satisfied with what's going on - anyway you can never know what they think without voting.

And since the politics of Vucic were clearly visible for everyone during the last years, the mandate is to continue the politics he was committed to in the last year - which is EU access, talks and normalization of the relationship with Kosovo, amongst others. The two anti-European parties got about 13% support, but this can have other reasons too, there might be Serbs who don't want EU access but refrain from voting for fascist parties like the Radicals.

It is the same EU,Austria that refused NATO to use their Airfields,and France,Italians that gave information to Slobo ,what points will be targeted,and Greece refusing NATO ship to dock in Greek port's!.
P's ,It was NATO, with different leaders,and not EU that bomb ,Serbia!.
But specially your Britian that insisted to Bomb Serbia!.

You are wrong,France and Italy along with most EU Countries were in volved in the criminal attack on Yugoslavia,also Germany,it was they who bombed Belgrade before if you remember,it doesn't matter who the Nato leadership was its still the same criminal gang now as it was then,why would you want to collaborate with those people when you should be turning to Russia who never bombed you,many Serbs deserve all they are going to get from the quislings in Belrade.

Why the huge announcement with no data to back it up? The EC should not confuse the things that Serbs would want to do even if the EU did not exist with a passion for the EU.

People get elected in Serbia for the same reasons they get elected anywhere. They are people perceived best to get some job done. Has Seselj ever demonstrated any competence as an elected official? Who cares what his sympathies are if he can't handle the office?

Serbia can't afford to look like its neighbors in Croatia and Albania -- all talk and no reading or writing, or hard thinking. Vucic may not have a lot of hair on his chest, but he does seem to be running things.

A classic example of "spin"

Do people really fall for this sh*t?

It's kind of offensive.

It makes people distrust the EU even more - not less.

Comm. Parrisson

I wonder what makes all professional Serbopobes here be so happy about the outcome of the voting? Also I wonder how long will it take Serbs to understand why their mortal enemies are so happy today? Finally I wonder if other Balkan peoples know that as soon as Serbia stops to resist he West all the neighbors will immediately feel it on their neighboring skins?

You are wrong,France and Italy along with most EU Countries were in volved in the criminal attack on Yugoslavia,also Germany,it was they who bombed Belgrade before if you remember,it doesn't matter who the Nato leadership was its still the same criminal gang now as it was then,why would you want to collaborate with those people when you should be turning to Russia who never bombed you,many Serbs deserve all they are going to get from the quislings in Belrade.
(Englishman, 27 April 2016 13:42)

You don't get the difference, Serbia is NOT joining NATO,but EU,in say 4-5 years.It's a long way ,and anything can change. Serbia should not join anyone,and do business with anyone willing to invest.I mean anyone, Russia Belarus, Kazakhstan, China,Japan,South Korea,UAE,Iran,USA,EU countries,and any other country willing!.I am a Australian/BRITISH citizen living in Serbia,seeing the investment from foreign companies.
When you move and live in Serbia,you can join the radicals, and talk all you like about Russia,but to me ,I want the EURO'S, Dollar's ,Pound's,Rubles,Yuan Renmimbi,UAE Dirham,and any other currency invested in Serbia.I want Serbia to grow for my children, so they don't need to go to Australia or England to live and work.
P's French and Italian General's kept give Yugoslavia General's NATO secrets,about their bombing target's.That's why some Yugoslav Military Building site's where bomb with no one in the building.

Complete bollocks. Nobody I know here in Vojvodina supports Serbian entry to the EU.
(notoeu, 26 April 2016 23:41)
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And how many voted to make sure that Vucic doesn't get back in. Serbs haven't learned to do what's good for them. They trust too much. Allowing others to take charge of your life is a huge mistake. By voting you take some control back. When are they going to learn that every vote counts?