Firstly to all those who get it confused, abdics muslim forces were in the west of bosnia not the east, and they are not on the "serb side" but it was an internal conflict within a war that benefitted certain sides, they benefited serbs and sought support by recieving arms while their opponents were supporting the croats, there were even brothers on opposite sides shooting each other, I come from a family that literally were shooting one another, but dont think that those who were on the "serb side" have a high opinion of serbs some of them actually hate serbs unlike the mainstream bosniaks because they saw first hand what the serbs were doing, yep it is complicated
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot?
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
Signatures of war crimes conventions by individuals in their individual capacity are irrelevant since the beginning of time, dear lol let me know when is the last time that you signed a war crimes convention (in your individual capacity)!
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They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
"Convict other countries" is a meaningless expression in English! I understand you've lost it, but you don't have to humiliate yourself like this :)
As for US and NATO ignoring them, just a small clarification that that is according to a certain Jugoslavija, and therefore it can safely be ignored!
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
(jugolsavija, 19 February 2016 17:13)
Well, yes I read your post again and it said that every trial and conviction "should be reversed", instead of eighteen convictions which "were reversed".
"Should be" and "were" are different in the normal English language (I can't comment though what English you were taught). So I read and comprehended it as "should be" as you wrote it.
So, you still have not shown a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why or, in the alternative, withdraw the "should be" part as an error :)
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot? They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
You want to talk about heroes? How about Adem Jasheri who sacrifices his entire family including women and children refusing to release them. Love Islamic Militant Albanian style.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century
(Smart Serb, 18 February 2016 23:14)
Mate, your ignorance is astonishing. The UNSC has empowered ICTY to prosecute serious violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
Also, ICTY has no power to prosecute the "biggest atrocities throughout the last century", except for those committed in the territory of former Yugoslavia and only if committed since 1991.
This guy thought that he was so clever back in the day with divide and conquer tactics by Graz agreement, snipping of anti-war prosters from that hitel and kidnapping Izetbegovic in order to secure a free pass to those chetnik fascists hold via gun point. Not so smart now, are you.
War is war, it's not nice.
Everyside committed unpleasant acts because you cant do it any other way, otherwise it is not a war.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century and even today?
The United States of America that's who.
When will Bill Clinton, George Bush and Tony Blair stand trial for the blood on their hands???
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
(Nenad, 18 February 2016 19:53)
Acquitted!! Are you kidding, not with this kangaroo court and farce called The Hague Tribunal which mocks international justice.
However, some of these Bosnian leader deserve the sentences they get for sheer stupidity. Krstic, Krajisnek and Plavsic plea bargain with the prosecution in order to get lighter sentences. In essence, they lied based on prior and subsequent statements. Karadzic signs a deal with Holbrook for "immunity" in exchange to disappear from politics thinking he was free and clear.
Milosevic on the other hand fought against this fake court and won!
The rest of the these so called Serbian leaders are nothing more than traitors.
This international court mocks justice by routinely changing laws and precedents based on political pressure. Markac and Gotovina rightly were sentenced 18-24 years based on previous ICTY rulings. The sentencing and 18 charges are then reversed changing the definition of "joint criminal enterprise" "indiscriminate bombing" and "ethic cleansing" of civilians. If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
Ari Gold you should use common sense all because even if Karadzic didn't fire a single shot he may have either instructed his minions or subordinates to slay their victims or he simply didn't want to intervene when his subordinates or minions reeked havoc against their victims therefore meaning that he can be just as culpable.For you Jugoslavia you claim that Izbetgovic turned his back on his compatriots ( his fellow Bosnians or Bosniacs) so my question to you is where's your proof?? Or is it that you have no proof to back up your claims? Either you have evidence or you don't.
Radovan Karadic is a Serbian Hero!!! Zivela Srbia!!!
Kosovo is Serbian!! temporarily under terrorist control, but not for long. CCCC
(vratnica, 18 February 2016 16:40)
We like them that's why they are cleaned up. Still some rooten here and there but WE ARE CLEARING BIGGG TIME.
Here is not Bosnia. Heads up! Get smashed that's it - that how you deal with Serbs
Trial my backside,its been a witch hunt by the US 4th Reich and their puppets,Mladic got it right when he told them to go to Hell,when are those head hacking Jihadi savages going to be on trial?
@Abdic your a fool ! why don't you explain to the people what side Eastern Bosnia 100% Muslim fought on .that's right the Serb side the leader of eastern Bosnians was no other the Fikret Abdic
This farce of a tribunal the ICTY will convict Dr. Karadzic despite the fact that the man didn't fire a single shot during the war. Was Alija Izetbegovic ever prosecuted for the fact that there were 100,000 Serbs living in Sarajevo before the war, and after the war less than 10,000. No because it isn't ethnic cleansing or genocide if the victims are Serbian. F the ICTY, Karadzic will always be a hero for Serbia and Republika Srpska.
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
When the verdict is read out guilty on the numerous criminal charges. The next logical step is to get rid of the criminality. The "Srpska entity" aka greater warmonger expansionist criminal Serbia in victimized country of Bosnia. Like the jail bait Karadzic said in one of his lucid moments. If wasn't for Serbia's doing nothing would of happened in Bosnia.
Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, have it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene.
(abdic, 18 February 2016 14:35)
Your arguments don’t not make sense. Bosnian Serbs did not need intervention, Bosnian Muslims on the other hand wanted the arms embargo lifted (in essence it was in the so called "safe zones" of Zepa, Gorazde and Srebrinica) and eventually did get US and NATO intervention with the so called Markdale incident. Alija Izetbegovic bombed his own civilians, turned his back in Srebrenica which his General Sefir Halilovic confirmed. Further, General Colin Rose who has no ties to any of the belligerents was on the ground and confirmed that the missiles were fired on to markdale civilians.
Alija Izetbegovic is responsible for mass crimes against all civilians as well as the JNA where he slaughtered innocent JNA officers who released him from capture. He is also responsible for backing out of the Vance/Owen plan , Vance/Stoltenberg plan costing more lives although the Bosnian Serb Parliament is also responsible for balking on agreements.
You expect the Bosnian Serbs and Republka Srpska to fall under the leadership of his son Bakir!???
What does Kissinger have to do with anything? He never was in power in the US during the Yugoslav civil war?
If he is indeed guilty of war crimes and if the prosecution can provide ample evidence indicating his guilt it would be sensible that the Hague Tribunal return with a guilty verdict and in the event he's found guilty he's not getting my sympathy particularly if he's without remorse.
In others he takes responsibility while murderers go on and live their daily lives.
(shameful, 18 February 2016 15:28)
Or worse, get acquitted due to lack of evidence, witnesses suddenly disappearing, or intervention from outside powers to throw the case out because it looks embarrassing for the CIA to be associated with mass murderers.
There has been recent criticism about the length of time it has taken to complete other trials in the Hague so the fact that this one is drawing to a close, whatever the verdict, should be applauded.
I want to refresh serb memory who now are about to spam this topic with paranoia about western plot. Ronald Steel for instance wrote a lit of pro serb stuff. Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, hsve it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene. Don't dream dreams, said Karadzics buddy David Owen. I'd say to Radovan, that don't dream dreams of seeing sunlight anywhere else but the prison yard.
Trial my backside,its been a witch hunt by the US 4th Reich and their puppets,Mladic got it right when he told them to go to Hell,when are those head hacking Jihadi savages going to be on trial?
This farce of a tribunal the ICTY will convict Dr. Karadzic despite the fact that the man didn't fire a single shot during the war. Was Alija Izetbegovic ever prosecuted for the fact that there were 100,000 Serbs living in Sarajevo before the war, and after the war less than 10,000. No because it isn't ethnic cleansing or genocide if the victims are Serbian. F the ICTY, Karadzic will always be a hero for Serbia and Republika Srpska.
There has been recent criticism about the length of time it has taken to complete other trials in the Hague so the fact that this one is drawing to a close, whatever the verdict, should be applauded.
Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, have it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene.
(abdic, 18 February 2016 14:35)
Your arguments don’t not make sense. Bosnian Serbs did not need intervention, Bosnian Muslims on the other hand wanted the arms embargo lifted (in essence it was in the so called "safe zones" of Zepa, Gorazde and Srebrinica) and eventually did get US and NATO intervention with the so called Markdale incident. Alija Izetbegovic bombed his own civilians, turned his back in Srebrenica which his General Sefir Halilovic confirmed. Further, General Colin Rose who has no ties to any of the belligerents was on the ground and confirmed that the missiles were fired on to markdale civilians.
Alija Izetbegovic is responsible for mass crimes against all civilians as well as the JNA where he slaughtered innocent JNA officers who released him from capture. He is also responsible for backing out of the Vance/Owen plan , Vance/Stoltenberg plan costing more lives although the Bosnian Serb Parliament is also responsible for balking on agreements.
You expect the Bosnian Serbs and Republka Srpska to fall under the leadership of his son Bakir!???
What does Kissinger have to do with anything? He never was in power in the US during the Yugoslav civil war?
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
@Abdic your a fool ! why don't you explain to the people what side Eastern Bosnia 100% Muslim fought on .that's right the Serb side the leader of eastern Bosnians was no other the Fikret Abdic
I want to refresh serb memory who now are about to spam this topic with paranoia about western plot. Ronald Steel for instance wrote a lit of pro serb stuff. Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, hsve it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene. Don't dream dreams, said Karadzics buddy David Owen. I'd say to Radovan, that don't dream dreams of seeing sunlight anywhere else but the prison yard.
In others he takes responsibility while murderers go on and live their daily lives.
(shameful, 18 February 2016 15:28)
Or worse, get acquitted due to lack of evidence, witnesses suddenly disappearing, or intervention from outside powers to throw the case out because it looks embarrassing for the CIA to be associated with mass murderers.
When the verdict is read out guilty on the numerous criminal charges. The next logical step is to get rid of the criminality. The "Srpska entity" aka greater warmonger expansionist criminal Serbia in victimized country of Bosnia. Like the jail bait Karadzic said in one of his lucid moments. If wasn't for Serbia's doing nothing would of happened in Bosnia.
If he is indeed guilty of war crimes and if the prosecution can provide ample evidence indicating his guilt it would be sensible that the Hague Tribunal return with a guilty verdict and in the event he's found guilty he's not getting my sympathy particularly if he's without remorse.
Radovan Karadic is a Serbian Hero!!! Zivela Srbia!!!
Kosovo is Serbian!! temporarily under terrorist control, but not for long. CCCC
(vratnica, 18 February 2016 16:40)
We like them that's why they are cleaned up. Still some rooten here and there but WE ARE CLEARING BIGGG TIME.
Here is not Bosnia. Heads up! Get smashed that's it - that how you deal with Serbs
War is war, it's not nice.
Everyside committed unpleasant acts because you cant do it any other way, otherwise it is not a war.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century and even today?
The United States of America that's who.
When will Bill Clinton, George Bush and Tony Blair stand trial for the blood on their hands???
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
Ari Gold you should use common sense all because even if Karadzic didn't fire a single shot he may have either instructed his minions or subordinates to slay their victims or he simply didn't want to intervene when his subordinates or minions reeked havoc against their victims therefore meaning that he can be just as culpable.For you Jugoslavia you claim that Izbetgovic turned his back on his compatriots ( his fellow Bosnians or Bosniacs) so my question to you is where's your proof?? Or is it that you have no proof to back up your claims? Either you have evidence or you don't.
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
(Nenad, 18 February 2016 19:53)
Acquitted!! Are you kidding, not with this kangaroo court and farce called The Hague Tribunal which mocks international justice.
However, some of these Bosnian leader deserve the sentences they get for sheer stupidity. Krstic, Krajisnek and Plavsic plea bargain with the prosecution in order to get lighter sentences. In essence, they lied based on prior and subsequent statements. Karadzic signs a deal with Holbrook for "immunity" in exchange to disappear from politics thinking he was free and clear.
Milosevic on the other hand fought against this fake court and won!
The rest of the these so called Serbian leaders are nothing more than traitors.
This international court mocks justice by routinely changing laws and precedents based on political pressure. Markac and Gotovina rightly were sentenced 18-24 years based on previous ICTY rulings. The sentencing and 18 charges are then reversed changing the definition of "joint criminal enterprise" "indiscriminate bombing" and "ethic cleansing" of civilians. If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
This guy thought that he was so clever back in the day with divide and conquer tactics by Graz agreement, snipping of anti-war prosters from that hitel and kidnapping Izetbegovic in order to secure a free pass to those chetnik fascists hold via gun point. Not so smart now, are you.
You want to talk about heroes? How about Adem Jasheri who sacrifices his entire family including women and children refusing to release them. Love Islamic Militant Albanian style.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century
(Smart Serb, 18 February 2016 23:14)
Mate, your ignorance is astonishing. The UNSC has empowered ICTY to prosecute serious violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
Also, ICTY has no power to prosecute the "biggest atrocities throughout the last century", except for those committed in the territory of former Yugoslavia and only if committed since 1991.
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
(jugolsavija, 19 February 2016 17:13)
Well, yes I read your post again and it said that every trial and conviction "should be reversed", instead of eighteen convictions which "were reversed".
"Should be" and "were" are different in the normal English language (I can't comment though what English you were taught). So I read and comprehended it as "should be" as you wrote it.
So, you still have not shown a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why or, in the alternative, withdraw the "should be" part as an error :)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot? They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot?
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
Signatures of war crimes conventions by individuals in their individual capacity are irrelevant since the beginning of time, dear lol let me know when is the last time that you signed a war crimes convention (in your individual capacity)!
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They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
"Convict other countries" is a meaningless expression in English! I understand you've lost it, but you don't have to humiliate yourself like this :)
As for US and NATO ignoring them, just a small clarification that that is according to a certain Jugoslavija, and therefore it can safely be ignored!
Firstly to all those who get it confused, abdics muslim forces were in the west of bosnia not the east, and they are not on the "serb side" but it was an internal conflict within a war that benefitted certain sides, they benefited serbs and sought support by recieving arms while their opponents were supporting the croats, there were even brothers on opposite sides shooting each other, I come from a family that literally were shooting one another, but dont think that those who were on the "serb side" have a high opinion of serbs some of them actually hate serbs unlike the mainstream bosniaks because they saw first hand what the serbs were doing, yep it is complicated
When the verdict is read out guilty on the numerous criminal charges. The next logical step is to get rid of the criminality. The "Srpska entity" aka greater warmonger expansionist criminal Serbia in victimized country of Bosnia. Like the jail bait Karadzic said in one of his lucid moments. If wasn't for Serbia's doing nothing would of happened in Bosnia.
I want to refresh serb memory who now are about to spam this topic with paranoia about western plot. Ronald Steel for instance wrote a lit of pro serb stuff. Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, hsve it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene. Don't dream dreams, said Karadzics buddy David Owen. I'd say to Radovan, that don't dream dreams of seeing sunlight anywhere else but the prison yard.
This farce of a tribunal the ICTY will convict Dr. Karadzic despite the fact that the man didn't fire a single shot during the war. Was Alija Izetbegovic ever prosecuted for the fact that there were 100,000 Serbs living in Sarajevo before the war, and after the war less than 10,000. No because it isn't ethnic cleansing or genocide if the victims are Serbian. F the ICTY, Karadzic will always be a hero for Serbia and Republika Srpska.
Radovan Karadic is a Serbian Hero!!! Zivela Srbia!!!
Kosovo is Serbian!! temporarily under terrorist control, but not for long. CCCC
(vratnica, 18 February 2016 16:40)
We like them that's why they are cleaned up. Still some rooten here and there but WE ARE CLEARING BIGGG TIME.
Here is not Bosnia. Heads up! Get smashed that's it - that how you deal with Serbs
Trial my backside,its been a witch hunt by the US 4th Reich and their puppets,Mladic got it right when he told them to go to Hell,when are those head hacking Jihadi savages going to be on trial?
Serbs would have simply gotten away with it, have it not been for Markale. This is why Karadzic and his cohorts claim that Markale was staged. Why would a muslim army suffering from massive man shortage bomb its own people only to rely on such pro serbian westerners as Kissinger to intervene.
(abdic, 18 February 2016 14:35)
Your arguments don’t not make sense. Bosnian Serbs did not need intervention, Bosnian Muslims on the other hand wanted the arms embargo lifted (in essence it was in the so called "safe zones" of Zepa, Gorazde and Srebrinica) and eventually did get US and NATO intervention with the so called Markdale incident. Alija Izetbegovic bombed his own civilians, turned his back in Srebrenica which his General Sefir Halilovic confirmed. Further, General Colin Rose who has no ties to any of the belligerents was on the ground and confirmed that the missiles were fired on to markdale civilians.
Alija Izetbegovic is responsible for mass crimes against all civilians as well as the JNA where he slaughtered innocent JNA officers who released him from capture. He is also responsible for backing out of the Vance/Owen plan , Vance/Stoltenberg plan costing more lives although the Bosnian Serb Parliament is also responsible for balking on agreements.
You expect the Bosnian Serbs and Republka Srpska to fall under the leadership of his son Bakir!???
What does Kissinger have to do with anything? He never was in power in the US during the Yugoslav civil war?
In others he takes responsibility while murderers go on and live their daily lives.
(shameful, 18 February 2016 15:28)
Or worse, get acquitted due to lack of evidence, witnesses suddenly disappearing, or intervention from outside powers to throw the case out because it looks embarrassing for the CIA to be associated with mass murderers.
If he is indeed guilty of war crimes and if the prosecution can provide ample evidence indicating his guilt it would be sensible that the Hague Tribunal return with a guilty verdict and in the event he's found guilty he's not getting my sympathy particularly if he's without remorse.
@Abdic your a fool ! why don't you explain to the people what side Eastern Bosnia 100% Muslim fought on .that's right the Serb side the leader of eastern Bosnians was no other the Fikret Abdic
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
(Nenad, 18 February 2016 19:53)
Acquitted!! Are you kidding, not with this kangaroo court and farce called The Hague Tribunal which mocks international justice.
However, some of these Bosnian leader deserve the sentences they get for sheer stupidity. Krstic, Krajisnek and Plavsic plea bargain with the prosecution in order to get lighter sentences. In essence, they lied based on prior and subsequent statements. Karadzic signs a deal with Holbrook for "immunity" in exchange to disappear from politics thinking he was free and clear.
Milosevic on the other hand fought against this fake court and won!
The rest of the these so called Serbian leaders are nothing more than traitors.
This international court mocks justice by routinely changing laws and precedents based on political pressure. Markac and Gotovina rightly were sentenced 18-24 years based on previous ICTY rulings. The sentencing and 18 charges are then reversed changing the definition of "joint criminal enterprise" "indiscriminate bombing" and "ethic cleansing" of civilians. If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
You want to talk about heroes? How about Adem Jasheri who sacrifices his entire family including women and children refusing to release them. Love Islamic Militant Albanian style.
There has been recent criticism about the length of time it has taken to complete other trials in the Hague so the fact that this one is drawing to a close, whatever the verdict, should be applauded.
War is war, it's not nice.
Everyside committed unpleasant acts because you cant do it any other way, otherwise it is not a war.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century and even today?
The United States of America that's who.
When will Bill Clinton, George Bush and Tony Blair stand trial for the blood on their hands???
Given all the convictions of senior politicians and army officers from RS, there is no way this guy gets acquitted. Krstic, Tolimir, Galic, Krajisnik, Plavsic - all guilty. Radovan is going away for life. Zbogom.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot? They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
Ari Gold you should use common sense all because even if Karadzic didn't fire a single shot he may have either instructed his minions or subordinates to slay their victims or he simply didn't want to intervene when his subordinates or minions reeked havoc against their victims therefore meaning that he can be just as culpable.For you Jugoslavia you claim that Izbetgovic turned his back on his compatriots ( his fellow Bosnians or Bosniacs) so my question to you is where's your proof?? Or is it that you have no proof to back up your claims? Either you have evidence or you don't.
What is corrupt though, is the kangaroo court established in the Hague to prosecute some and not others.
Who is not a signatory to the war crimes convention?
Who has committed the biggest atrocities throughout the last century
(Smart Serb, 18 February 2016 23:14)
Mate, your ignorance is astonishing. The UNSC has empowered ICTY to prosecute serious violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991.
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
Also, ICTY has no power to prosecute the "biggest atrocities throughout the last century", except for those committed in the territory of former Yugoslavia and only if committed since 1991.
This guy thought that he was so clever back in the day with divide and conquer tactics by Graz agreement, snipping of anti-war prosters from that hitel and kidnapping Izetbegovic in order to secure a free pass to those chetnik fascists hold via gun point. Not so smart now, are you.
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
If so, then every trial and conviction should be reversed based on these new rulings.
(Jugoslavija, 18 February 2016 23:39)
Why? Please identify a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why? Your arguments don't become valid just because you say so!
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:28)
There are eighteen convictions which were reversed of which three are identified in my post, can't help it if you can't read, understand or comprehend fool.
(jugolsavija, 19 February 2016 17:13)
Well, yes I read your post again and it said that every trial and conviction "should be reversed", instead of eighteen convictions which "were reversed".
"Should be" and "were" are different in the normal English language (I can't comment though what English you were taught). So I read and comprehended it as "should be" as you wrote it.
So, you still have not shown a single conviction that "should be reversed based on these new rulings" and explain why or, in the alternative, withdraw the "should be" part as an error :)
Signature of war crimes conventions is irrelevant since ICTY prosecutes individuals and individuals don't sign war crimes conventions.
(icj1, 19 February 2016 15:39)
Since when are signatures of war crimes convention irrelevant idiot?
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
Signatures of war crimes conventions by individuals in their individual capacity are irrelevant since the beginning of time, dear lol let me know when is the last time that you signed a war crimes convention (in your individual capacity)!
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They have become irrelevant because the US and NATO brazenly ignores them but tried to convict other countries who breach them.
(Jugoslavija, 19 February 2016 17:18)
"Convict other countries" is a meaningless expression in English! I understand you've lost it, but you don't have to humiliate yourself like this :)
As for US and NATO ignoring them, just a small clarification that that is according to a certain Jugoslavija, and therefore it can safely be ignored!
Firstly to all those who get it confused, abdics muslim forces were in the west of bosnia not the east, and they are not on the "serb side" but it was an internal conflict within a war that benefitted certain sides, they benefited serbs and sought support by recieving arms while their opponents were supporting the croats, there were even brothers on opposite sides shooting each other, I come from a family that literally were shooting one another, but dont think that those who were on the "serb side" have a high opinion of serbs some of them actually hate serbs unlike the mainstream bosniaks because they saw first hand what the serbs were doing, yep it is complicated
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