Kosovo is not a state, there is no law and justice there neither for Serbs nor for Albanians, and not everyone who lives in the territory accepts it as a state.
Wash. Post, April 3, 1981; Yugoslavs Take Emergency Steps In Face of Ethnic Disturbance
The Economist, April 11, 1981; Yugoslavia; Home-grown Bother
NY Times, April 19, 1981; One Storm Passed, Others Gathering in Yugoslavia
Christian Science Monitor (CSM); May 7, 1981; Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge?
AP; Oct. 23, 1981; Minorities Leaving Yugoslav Province Dominated by Albanians
CSM, Dec. 16, 1981; Why turbulent Kosovo has marble sidewalks but troubled industries
Financial Times, Feb. 5, 1982; Police fail to crush resistance in Kosovo
Financial Times, June 1, 1982; Kosovo riots jolt the regions
NY Times, July 12, 1982; Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia
Facts on File World News Digest; September 10, 1982; Serbs in Kosovo Exodus
BBC World; May 4, 1985; Serbian Presidency discusses emigration from Kosovo
NY Times, April 28, 1986; In One Yugoslav Province Serbs Fear the Ethnic Albanians
Reuters; May 27, 1986, Kosovo Province Revives Yugoslavia's Ethnic Nightmare
NY Times; July 27, 1986, Minorities are Uneasy in Yugoslavian Province
CSM; July 28, 1986; Tensions among ethnic groups in Yugoslavia begin to boil over
BBC; Nov. 10, 1986; Group of Citizens from Kosovo Received in SFRY Assembly
Wash. Post; Nov. 29, 1986; Ethnic Rivalries Cause Unrest in Yugoslav Region
Reuters; August 16, 1987, Serbs & Montenegrans Rally Against Alleged Albanian Attacks
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
(Blind Profet, 18 February 2016 13:10)
For the Serbs in the isolated ethnic ghettos below the Ibar, yes. The North is out of reach for Pristina and always will be. It may as well be on the moon. In 2011, ROSU units tried to take over the north, but that didn't go too well.
Should have never started making mythical stories about albanian anti-serb pograms durkng reign of Stambo and Sloba. Western media if I remember correctly only encourage serbs in late 80s by writing sbout 'massacres in Kosovo'. Paranoia will destroy ya like they say.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2016 16:54)
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
Why does Kosovo need a new flag which was created by Europe?
If that land was their land for centuries dont you think they will have a national flag they would wave and be proud Kosovars? They wave a red flag with a black bird on it. Doesn't that belong to Albania next door???
The western leaders using their dirty tricks again.
Western propaganda says 90 countries recognise Kosovo,but what about the 110 countries that DO NOT?????
Most poor nations were bribed with financial funding so to recognising this illegal breakaway.
As long as China and Russia veto this despicable unilateral declaration, it remains in the hands of it's rightful owner.
Spain, Brazil,India,Indonesia just to name a few other large nations all have used their common sense by adhering to international law and not played into the hands of the western bullies.
Serbia will get Kosovo back one day.
Maybe when the west return it once they rape all the minerals out of trepica mine.
Let the Albanians live in peace but it will never be yours to steal.
I'm interested in Ari's expression "even if Serbia cannot CONTROL part of its territory". I do not know in what sense Ari meant 'control' but in many cases it is the desire of the larger part of an entity to exert control over smaller parts that leads to demands for independence. Scotland remained part of the UK in their referendum partly because there is no attempt at control by London. The Scots have their own Parliament and largely run their own affairs. Wales has its own language and acts of 1993 and 1998 mean that this language has equal status with English. Some things are better achieved together; economic success and common defence being two of the most important, but at no point is the issue of control (other than through budget grants from the centre) ever brought into focus. What was Serbia doing when it 'controlled' Kosovo; was it allowing the citizens there to freely conduct their own affairs and speak their own language widely or was it trying to suppress the K Albanians? Was it trying to reinforce the superiority of Serbs over Albanians (Peggy has admitted that she believes Serbs to be superior in previous posts) or treating everyone as an equal and important part of the state? I suppose some were doing one thing and others another, but the damage wrought in the late 1980's and early 1990's was never repaired.
serbs all jealous coz they can't have and want to have something that is not theirs. keep crying. don't worry about the protest, that is not your country or business. Serbia does not have anything in kosovo nor controls anything there.
I see nothing has changed on Serbia's chetnik media - this is how they 'cover' the anniversary of Kosova's independence. It is not any kind of normal media - it is a sickness and a symptom of the regression and denial of its society. We fought Milosevic all those years and this is what has taken its place! Dreck...
Vulin is becoming the greatest promoter of the Unification of Albania and Kosova. He is using the same rhetoric used by the Kosovar opposition lead by Vetevendosje.
I think you might be right Vulin, we are done playing UN recognition games with you. As soon as the current government falls the opposition will make sure Kosova joins its motherland, Albania. You can forget about counting "yes" and "no" votes then and everyone can continue living their daily lives.
Then Serbia is not a state because "Kosovo is Serbia" and it's occupied.
(LK, 17 February 2016 19:07)
Correction, Serbia is a puppet state under PM Vucic, that is obvious! But all EU states are puppet states in one extreme or another with Germany pulling the strings while UK and France are drowning in debt and Islamic Muslim Militants.
111 UN members recognize Kosova as an state. It means that 111 countrys of the world dosen't recognize Serbia with Kosova. That will never change.
Some day both Serbia and Kosova will want to be part of EU. And to do that they will have to recognize each other. Serbs want to rule Kosova despite majority Albanian population and Albanians want Kosova to unite with Albania. Both are and will be unhappy. Kosova independece brings peace between Albanians and Serbs. Albanians would never accept serbian rule as history has learned us. And serbs cannot accept Kosova to unite with Albania. That is Why US and the West has come with this solution.
Have Vulin thought of how Serbia will rule Kosova or have it as its part without the consent of the population of Kosova ? Vulin should know Albanians will never give its consent for Kosova to give up its independence to be part of an slavic country as Serbia.
Milosevic tryed to ethnicly clean Kosova from its Albanian population. He knew It was the only chansen to ockult Kosova. Are serbs ready to try that again?
The only way Kosova could be serbia would be if Albanians woulden't exist at all. Meaning zero chance.
I believe he's talking about Vojvodina because Kosovo is independent and until today has been recognized by 111 countries. It's funny how Serbs call Serb entity in Bosnia a republic but independent Kosovo say is not independent.
The comparison between Syria and Kosovo is very appropriate. Both are attempts to exterminate a native population by out breeding them and both are social and economic failures as a result. And both pour out refugees, but Albanians are denied refugee status because there is no war.
You should change this commenting note to: If you are albanian or kosovar and you tell the truth, you will not be able to comment! Btw why u promote hate, why u used the picture from last protest, the last ones today were bigger and without violence, we respect serbs rights here in kosovo. I have many serbian friends and i have respect for them. I know serbian media spread that 3 churches were burned in entire kosovo during the war, yeah thats true i dont support that, but whats the value of those buildings compare to lives of innocent people who died from serbs during war. Im an atheist and i dont care about religion honestly, but why serbian media doesnt tell where its the mosque which was stick to the the main bridge in Mitrovica before the war. Or tell serbs that how i found my burned city to the ground after i came back from Albania. I hope we will have peace one day and respect each other, as i do with my serbian friends. Peace
Kosovo is a state of perpetual misery, poverty, chaos, violence, and ignorance. Enjoy your "independence" day and try not to throw cake at each other like you did in Tirana 2012.
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 17 February 2016 16:14)
Good to see that even the most nationalistic Serbs are starting to realize that Kosovo is a state. You went from denial to anger. This is progress. I`m proud of you little chetnik.
Who is this ?
Whatever : His counterpart will be happy to attend the celebrations with him ( maybe )* in Kosovo but before he should have a permission to enter in the Republic of Kosova.
...Commenting on the anniversary and the announced opposition protests, Vulin said this day "demonstrates the best that a territory cannot become a state only because someone said so." ...
It is called freedom to protest and it is the right in Kosovo Constitution.
It looks like this idiot Vulin,wants people to be like in North Korea.
So obviously Syria is not a state too, since millions of Syrians left Syria
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That's absolutely correct. The status quo works just fine for Kosovo since, as you said, Serbia cannot control it :)
(icj1, 17 February 2016 15:15)
But Syria is experiencing a war and terrorism on a daily basis. And still less people from there are flocking to Europe than the 'kosovars'. Nothing is pushing them out other than extreme poverty.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
Guys, guys - let's not get our panties all bunched up! Passions run high on ALL sides. Again, this is why it is so important that both sides come to some kind of agreement that works for all involved. One side to say to say "we get everything, u get nothing" does not work. Let's make this CLEAR to all!Albanians - just as fast as support has been provided, it can,and probably will dissapate. Serbs - unrealistic to imagine that 2 millions Albanians absorbed into Serbian mainstream would bring you any benefits, I mean politically, not personally. Some of my dearest friends are Albanian and we have absolutley no issues whatsoever. The world has changed! Now we see the world powers coming to the aid of smaller countries in a heartbeat. What happened in 1999 will not happen again. Putin has taken that situation personally and probably would risk WW3, not because he loves Srbs, but to make a statement.As for the US, they've backed off on Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria because of the Ruskies...what makes you think they'll have Kosovo's back? Smell the coffee! Serbs - Russia has manipulated this relationship to the upmost for themselves. They will sell you in a heartbeat if they don't see a benefit for themselves. I happen to strongly agree with Vucic on nuetrality politically. That is why Pristina&Beograd need to shake hands on something that all our children can count on! Let's do Business, not bullets! Srbs - Don't push it! Alb - Spit the hook!
Firstly, B92's Serb cheerleaders refused to believe Serbia would grovel to join the EU.
Secondly, that same peanut gallery is now stomping their feet and holding their breathe because Serbia is begging to be a NATO member. Finally, suicide attempts will be made by said little darlings when Serbia recognizes the Republic of Kosova as it learns it is necessary in order to be considered for the elite clubs of NATO and EU.
Obviously it is not a state. Over 100,000 Albanians left Kosovo-Metohija in 2015 because of appalling living conditions. More 'kosovars' are scrambling to move to Germany than Syrians who are fleeing a war zone! The status quo works just fine for now, even if it means Serbia cannot control a part of its territory. The moderate Albanians will either leave or gain the courage to admit to Serbia that it was wrong. Until then, expect the same KLA cesspool where anyone who's not a drug trafficker is looking to get the hell out. Either refuge in the EU or to join ISIS.
You could have made this statement back in 2007, you're way behind but that's no surprise when it comes to serbian politicians. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s.
Protest is a mean of unfavorable democratic solution. Generally people wish government would do what they should, but I guess democratic solutions do not exist in Serbia. Without being silently executed, those who oppose government wrong doing. I seriously suggest you stick to your position, which is one of the lowest a government can offer. You sound bitter too, then I challenge you to go to Kosovo and tell them they are not an independent state.
Ah lord we're has your head been, maybe like an ostrich when scared dug into a hole in the ground? The Republic Of Kosova is a state, has been a state since 2/17/2008, its inhabitants a 97% majority all recognize it as a state, maybe high unemployment & corruption but still a state, 1 which has its own constitution, it's own police & armed force, it's own parliament, it's own prime minister & president, it's own elected officials, has the euro instead of the fledgeling dinar, it's own national anthem, and is recognized by 110 democratic nations of the world as a independent & sovereign state some of which are the biggest economy's on earth!!! Yes vulin I think many would agree & conclude that Kosova is indeed a state!!!
I am surprised that he is not dressed in black as usual!!! Who gives a hoot what he has to say!?
I have one message for him: Come and get Kosova back if you dare, YOU PU..Y!!!
Obviously it is not a state. Over 100,000 Albanians left Kosovo-Metohija in 2015 because of appalling living conditions. More 'kosovars' are scrambling to move to Germany than Syrians who are fleeing a war zone! The status quo works just fine for now, even if it means Serbia cannot control a part of its territory. The moderate Albanians will either leave or gain the courage to admit to Serbia that it was wrong. Until then, expect the same KLA cesspool where anyone who's not a drug trafficker is looking to get the hell out. Either refuge in the EU or to join ISIS.
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 17 February 2016 16:14)
Good to see that even the most nationalistic Serbs are starting to realize that Kosovo is a state. You went from denial to anger. This is progress. I`m proud of you little chetnik.
Kosovo is a state of perpetual misery, poverty, chaos, violence, and ignorance. Enjoy your "independence" day and try not to throw cake at each other like you did in Tirana 2012.
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
So obviously Syria is not a state too, since millions of Syrians left Syria
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That's absolutely correct. The status quo works just fine for Kosovo since, as you said, Serbia cannot control it :)
(icj1, 17 February 2016 15:15)
But Syria is experiencing a war and terrorism on a daily basis. And still less people from there are flocking to Europe than the 'kosovars'. Nothing is pushing them out other than extreme poverty.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
I am surprised that he is not dressed in black as usual!!! Who gives a hoot what he has to say!?
I have one message for him: Come and get Kosova back if you dare, YOU PU..Y!!!
Who is this ?
Whatever : His counterpart will be happy to attend the celebrations with him ( maybe )* in Kosovo but before he should have a permission to enter in the Republic of Kosova.
Ah lord we're has your head been, maybe like an ostrich when scared dug into a hole in the ground? The Republic Of Kosova is a state, has been a state since 2/17/2008, its inhabitants a 97% majority all recognize it as a state, maybe high unemployment & corruption but still a state, 1 which has its own constitution, it's own police & armed force, it's own parliament, it's own prime minister & president, it's own elected officials, has the euro instead of the fledgeling dinar, it's own national anthem, and is recognized by 110 democratic nations of the world as a independent & sovereign state some of which are the biggest economy's on earth!!! Yes vulin I think many would agree & conclude that Kosova is indeed a state!!!
Firstly, B92's Serb cheerleaders refused to believe Serbia would grovel to join the EU.
Secondly, that same peanut gallery is now stomping their feet and holding their breathe because Serbia is begging to be a NATO member. Finally, suicide attempts will be made by said little darlings when Serbia recognizes the Republic of Kosova as it learns it is necessary in order to be considered for the elite clubs of NATO and EU.
...Commenting on the anniversary and the announced opposition protests, Vulin said this day "demonstrates the best that a territory cannot become a state only because someone said so." ...
It is called freedom to protest and it is the right in Kosovo Constitution.
It looks like this idiot Vulin,wants people to be like in North Korea.
You could have made this statement back in 2007, you're way behind but that's no surprise when it comes to serbian politicians. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s.
Protest is a mean of unfavorable democratic solution. Generally people wish government would do what they should, but I guess democratic solutions do not exist in Serbia. Without being silently executed, those who oppose government wrong doing. I seriously suggest you stick to your position, which is one of the lowest a government can offer. You sound bitter too, then I challenge you to go to Kosovo and tell them they are not an independent state.
You should change this commenting note to: If you are albanian or kosovar and you tell the truth, you will not be able to comment! Btw why u promote hate, why u used the picture from last protest, the last ones today were bigger and without violence, we respect serbs rights here in kosovo. I have many serbian friends and i have respect for them. I know serbian media spread that 3 churches were burned in entire kosovo during the war, yeah thats true i dont support that, but whats the value of those buildings compare to lives of innocent people who died from serbs during war. Im an atheist and i dont care about religion honestly, but why serbian media doesnt tell where its the mosque which was stick to the the main bridge in Mitrovica before the war. Or tell serbs that how i found my burned city to the ground after i came back from Albania. I hope we will have peace one day and respect each other, as i do with my serbian friends. Peace
The western leaders using their dirty tricks again.
Western propaganda says 90 countries recognise Kosovo,but what about the 110 countries that DO NOT?????
Most poor nations were bribed with financial funding so to recognising this illegal breakaway.
As long as China and Russia veto this despicable unilateral declaration, it remains in the hands of it's rightful owner.
Spain, Brazil,India,Indonesia just to name a few other large nations all have used their common sense by adhering to international law and not played into the hands of the western bullies.
Serbia will get Kosovo back one day.
Maybe when the west return it once they rape all the minerals out of trepica mine.
Let the Albanians live in peace but it will never be yours to steal.
Why does Kosovo need a new flag which was created by Europe?
If that land was their land for centuries dont you think they will have a national flag they would wave and be proud Kosovars? They wave a red flag with a black bird on it. Doesn't that belong to Albania next door???
I see nothing has changed on Serbia's chetnik media - this is how they 'cover' the anniversary of Kosova's independence. It is not any kind of normal media - it is a sickness and a symptom of the regression and denial of its society. We fought Milosevic all those years and this is what has taken its place! Dreck...
Should have never started making mythical stories about albanian anti-serb pograms durkng reign of Stambo and Sloba. Western media if I remember correctly only encourage serbs in late 80s by writing sbout 'massacres in Kosovo'. Paranoia will destroy ya like they say.
111 UN members recognize Kosova as an state. It means that 111 countrys of the world dosen't recognize Serbia with Kosova. That will never change.
Some day both Serbia and Kosova will want to be part of EU. And to do that they will have to recognize each other. Serbs want to rule Kosova despite majority Albanian population and Albanians want Kosova to unite with Albania. Both are and will be unhappy. Kosova independece brings peace between Albanians and Serbs. Albanians would never accept serbian rule as history has learned us. And serbs cannot accept Kosova to unite with Albania. That is Why US and the West has come with this solution.
Have Vulin thought of how Serbia will rule Kosova or have it as its part without the consent of the population of Kosova ? Vulin should know Albanians will never give its consent for Kosova to give up its independence to be part of an slavic country as Serbia.
Milosevic tryed to ethnicly clean Kosova from its Albanian population. He knew It was the only chansen to ockult Kosova. Are serbs ready to try that again?
The only way Kosova could be serbia would be if Albanians woulden't exist at all. Meaning zero chance.
Vulin is becoming the greatest promoter of the Unification of Albania and Kosova. He is using the same rhetoric used by the Kosovar opposition lead by Vetevendosje.
I think you might be right Vulin, we are done playing UN recognition games with you. As soon as the current government falls the opposition will make sure Kosova joins its motherland, Albania. You can forget about counting "yes" and "no" votes then and everyone can continue living their daily lives.
serbs all jealous coz they can't have and want to have something that is not theirs. keep crying. don't worry about the protest, that is not your country or business. Serbia does not have anything in kosovo nor controls anything there.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2016 16:54)
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
Guys, guys - let's not get our panties all bunched up! Passions run high on ALL sides. Again, this is why it is so important that both sides come to some kind of agreement that works for all involved. One side to say to say "we get everything, u get nothing" does not work. Let's make this CLEAR to all!Albanians - just as fast as support has been provided, it can,and probably will dissapate. Serbs - unrealistic to imagine that 2 millions Albanians absorbed into Serbian mainstream would bring you any benefits, I mean politically, not personally. Some of my dearest friends are Albanian and we have absolutley no issues whatsoever. The world has changed! Now we see the world powers coming to the aid of smaller countries in a heartbeat. What happened in 1999 will not happen again. Putin has taken that situation personally and probably would risk WW3, not because he loves Srbs, but to make a statement.As for the US, they've backed off on Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria because of the Ruskies...what makes you think they'll have Kosovo's back? Smell the coffee! Serbs - Russia has manipulated this relationship to the upmost for themselves. They will sell you in a heartbeat if they don't see a benefit for themselves. I happen to strongly agree with Vucic on nuetrality politically. That is why Pristina&Beograd need to shake hands on something that all our children can count on! Let's do Business, not bullets! Srbs - Don't push it! Alb - Spit the hook!
I believe he's talking about Vojvodina because Kosovo is independent and until today has been recognized by 111 countries. It's funny how Serbs call Serb entity in Bosnia a republic but independent Kosovo say is not independent.
I'm interested in Ari's expression "even if Serbia cannot CONTROL part of its territory". I do not know in what sense Ari meant 'control' but in many cases it is the desire of the larger part of an entity to exert control over smaller parts that leads to demands for independence. Scotland remained part of the UK in their referendum partly because there is no attempt at control by London. The Scots have their own Parliament and largely run their own affairs. Wales has its own language and acts of 1993 and 1998 mean that this language has equal status with English. Some things are better achieved together; economic success and common defence being two of the most important, but at no point is the issue of control (other than through budget grants from the centre) ever brought into focus. What was Serbia doing when it 'controlled' Kosovo; was it allowing the citizens there to freely conduct their own affairs and speak their own language widely or was it trying to suppress the K Albanians? Was it trying to reinforce the superiority of Serbs over Albanians (Peggy has admitted that she believes Serbs to be superior in previous posts) or treating everyone as an equal and important part of the state? I suppose some were doing one thing and others another, but the damage wrought in the late 1980's and early 1990's was never repaired.
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
(Blind Profet, 18 February 2016 13:10)
For the Serbs in the isolated ethnic ghettos below the Ibar, yes. The North is out of reach for Pristina and always will be. It may as well be on the moon. In 2011, ROSU units tried to take over the north, but that didn't go too well.
The comparison between Syria and Kosovo is very appropriate. Both are attempts to exterminate a native population by out breeding them and both are social and economic failures as a result. And both pour out refugees, but Albanians are denied refugee status because there is no war.
Then Serbia is not a state because "Kosovo is Serbia" and it's occupied.
(LK, 17 February 2016 19:07)
Correction, Serbia is a puppet state under PM Vucic, that is obvious! But all EU states are puppet states in one extreme or another with Germany pulling the strings while UK and France are drowning in debt and Islamic Muslim Militants.
Wash. Post, April 3, 1981; Yugoslavs Take Emergency Steps In Face of Ethnic Disturbance
The Economist, April 11, 1981; Yugoslavia; Home-grown Bother
NY Times, April 19, 1981; One Storm Passed, Others Gathering in Yugoslavia
Christian Science Monitor (CSM); May 7, 1981; Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge?
AP; Oct. 23, 1981; Minorities Leaving Yugoslav Province Dominated by Albanians
CSM, Dec. 16, 1981; Why turbulent Kosovo has marble sidewalks but troubled industries
Financial Times, Feb. 5, 1982; Police fail to crush resistance in Kosovo
Financial Times, June 1, 1982; Kosovo riots jolt the regions
NY Times, July 12, 1982; Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia
Facts on File World News Digest; September 10, 1982; Serbs in Kosovo Exodus
BBC World; May 4, 1985; Serbian Presidency discusses emigration from Kosovo
NY Times, April 28, 1986; In One Yugoslav Province Serbs Fear the Ethnic Albanians
Reuters; May 27, 1986, Kosovo Province Revives Yugoslavia's Ethnic Nightmare
NY Times; July 27, 1986, Minorities are Uneasy in Yugoslavian Province
CSM; July 28, 1986; Tensions among ethnic groups in Yugoslavia begin to boil over
BBC; Nov. 10, 1986; Group of Citizens from Kosovo Received in SFRY Assembly
Wash. Post; Nov. 29, 1986; Ethnic Rivalries Cause Unrest in Yugoslav Region
Reuters; August 16, 1987, Serbs & Montenegrans Rally Against Alleged Albanian Attacks
Ah lord we're has your head been, maybe like an ostrich when scared dug into a hole in the ground? The Republic Of Kosova is a state, has been a state since 2/17/2008, its inhabitants a 97% majority all recognize it as a state, maybe high unemployment & corruption but still a state, 1 which has its own constitution, it's own police & armed force, it's own parliament, it's own prime minister & president, it's own elected officials, has the euro instead of the fledgeling dinar, it's own national anthem, and is recognized by 110 democratic nations of the world as a independent & sovereign state some of which are the biggest economy's on earth!!! Yes vulin I think many would agree & conclude that Kosova is indeed a state!!!
Firstly, B92's Serb cheerleaders refused to believe Serbia would grovel to join the EU.
Secondly, that same peanut gallery is now stomping their feet and holding their breathe because Serbia is begging to be a NATO member. Finally, suicide attempts will be made by said little darlings when Serbia recognizes the Republic of Kosova as it learns it is necessary in order to be considered for the elite clubs of NATO and EU.
I am surprised that he is not dressed in black as usual!!! Who gives a hoot what he has to say!?
I have one message for him: Come and get Kosova back if you dare, YOU PU..Y!!!
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 17 February 2016 16:14)
Good to see that even the most nationalistic Serbs are starting to realize that Kosovo is a state. You went from denial to anger. This is progress. I`m proud of you little chetnik.
Obviously it is not a state. Over 100,000 Albanians left Kosovo-Metohija in 2015 because of appalling living conditions. More 'kosovars' are scrambling to move to Germany than Syrians who are fleeing a war zone! The status quo works just fine for now, even if it means Serbia cannot control a part of its territory. The moderate Albanians will either leave or gain the courage to admit to Serbia that it was wrong. Until then, expect the same KLA cesspool where anyone who's not a drug trafficker is looking to get the hell out. Either refuge in the EU or to join ISIS.
You could have made this statement back in 2007, you're way behind but that's no surprise when it comes to serbian politicians. They all seem to be stuck in the 90s.
Protest is a mean of unfavorable democratic solution. Generally people wish government would do what they should, but I guess democratic solutions do not exist in Serbia. Without being silently executed, those who oppose government wrong doing. I seriously suggest you stick to your position, which is one of the lowest a government can offer. You sound bitter too, then I challenge you to go to Kosovo and tell them they are not an independent state.
...Commenting on the anniversary and the announced opposition protests, Vulin said this day "demonstrates the best that a territory cannot become a state only because someone said so." ...
It is called freedom to protest and it is the right in Kosovo Constitution.
It looks like this idiot Vulin,wants people to be like in North Korea.
Kosovo is a state of perpetual misery, poverty, chaos, violence, and ignorance. Enjoy your "independence" day and try not to throw cake at each other like you did in Tirana 2012.
Who is this ?
Whatever : His counterpart will be happy to attend the celebrations with him ( maybe )* in Kosovo but before he should have a permission to enter in the Republic of Kosova.
So obviously Syria is not a state too, since millions of Syrians left Syria
----------
That's absolutely correct. The status quo works just fine for Kosovo since, as you said, Serbia cannot control it :)
(icj1, 17 February 2016 15:15)
But Syria is experiencing a war and terrorism on a daily basis. And still less people from there are flocking to Europe than the 'kosovars'. Nothing is pushing them out other than extreme poverty.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
Guys, guys - let's not get our panties all bunched up! Passions run high on ALL sides. Again, this is why it is so important that both sides come to some kind of agreement that works for all involved. One side to say to say "we get everything, u get nothing" does not work. Let's make this CLEAR to all!Albanians - just as fast as support has been provided, it can,and probably will dissapate. Serbs - unrealistic to imagine that 2 millions Albanians absorbed into Serbian mainstream would bring you any benefits, I mean politically, not personally. Some of my dearest friends are Albanian and we have absolutley no issues whatsoever. The world has changed! Now we see the world powers coming to the aid of smaller countries in a heartbeat. What happened in 1999 will not happen again. Putin has taken that situation personally and probably would risk WW3, not because he loves Srbs, but to make a statement.As for the US, they've backed off on Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria because of the Ruskies...what makes you think they'll have Kosovo's back? Smell the coffee! Serbs - Russia has manipulated this relationship to the upmost for themselves. They will sell you in a heartbeat if they don't see a benefit for themselves. I happen to strongly agree with Vucic on nuetrality politically. That is why Pristina&Beograd need to shake hands on something that all our children can count on! Let's do Business, not bullets! Srbs - Don't push it! Alb - Spit the hook!
serbs all jealous coz they can't have and want to have something that is not theirs. keep crying. don't worry about the protest, that is not your country or business. Serbia does not have anything in kosovo nor controls anything there.
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
(Blind Profet, 18 February 2016 13:10)
For the Serbs in the isolated ethnic ghettos below the Ibar, yes. The North is out of reach for Pristina and always will be. It may as well be on the moon. In 2011, ROSU units tried to take over the north, but that didn't go too well.
A state of dysfunction?
A state of madness?
A state of disrepair?
A state of segregation and impoverishment?
An apartheid state?
A state of decay?
A funny state?
.... perhaps...
A sad state.
The comparison between Syria and Kosovo is very appropriate. Both are attempts to exterminate a native population by out breeding them and both are social and economic failures as a result. And both pour out refugees, but Albanians are denied refugee status because there is no war.
111 UN members recognize Kosova as an state. It means that 111 countrys of the world dosen't recognize Serbia with Kosova. That will never change.
Some day both Serbia and Kosova will want to be part of EU. And to do that they will have to recognize each other. Serbs want to rule Kosova despite majority Albanian population and Albanians want Kosova to unite with Albania. Both are and will be unhappy. Kosova independece brings peace between Albanians and Serbs. Albanians would never accept serbian rule as history has learned us. And serbs cannot accept Kosova to unite with Albania. That is Why US and the West has come with this solution.
Have Vulin thought of how Serbia will rule Kosova or have it as its part without the consent of the population of Kosova ? Vulin should know Albanians will never give its consent for Kosova to give up its independence to be part of an slavic country as Serbia.
Milosevic tryed to ethnicly clean Kosova from its Albanian population. He knew It was the only chansen to ockult Kosova. Are serbs ready to try that again?
The only way Kosova could be serbia would be if Albanians woulden't exist at all. Meaning zero chance.
I see nothing has changed on Serbia's chetnik media - this is how they 'cover' the anniversary of Kosova's independence. It is not any kind of normal media - it is a sickness and a symptom of the regression and denial of its society. We fought Milosevic all those years and this is what has taken its place! Dreck...
The western leaders using their dirty tricks again.
Western propaganda says 90 countries recognise Kosovo,but what about the 110 countries that DO NOT?????
Most poor nations were bribed with financial funding so to recognising this illegal breakaway.
As long as China and Russia veto this despicable unilateral declaration, it remains in the hands of it's rightful owner.
Spain, Brazil,India,Indonesia just to name a few other large nations all have used their common sense by adhering to international law and not played into the hands of the western bullies.
Serbia will get Kosovo back one day.
Maybe when the west return it once they rape all the minerals out of trepica mine.
Let the Albanians live in peace but it will never be yours to steal.
Vulin is becoming the greatest promoter of the Unification of Albania and Kosova. He is using the same rhetoric used by the Kosovar opposition lead by Vetevendosje.
I think you might be right Vulin, we are done playing UN recognition games with you. As soon as the current government falls the opposition will make sure Kosova joins its motherland, Albania. You can forget about counting "yes" and "no" votes then and everyone can continue living their daily lives.
Why does Kosovo need a new flag which was created by Europe?
If that land was their land for centuries dont you think they will have a national flag they would wave and be proud Kosovars? They wave a red flag with a black bird on it. Doesn't that belong to Albania next door???
I believe he's talking about Vojvodina because Kosovo is independent and until today has been recognized by 111 countries. It's funny how Serbs call Serb entity in Bosnia a republic but independent Kosovo say is not independent.
Serbia can control the north and keep Kosovo-Metohija from ever becoming a state. That's more than enough for now. Until liberation enjoy your poverty. But I am confident that this isn't what the heroic organ snatchers fought for.
(Ari Gold, 17 February 2016 16:54)
It looks like you need NATO to protect your people as per Vucic this week so how do you control the north?
Then Serbia is not a state because "Kosovo is Serbia" and it's occupied.
(LK, 17 February 2016 19:07)
Correction, Serbia is a puppet state under PM Vucic, that is obvious! But all EU states are puppet states in one extreme or another with Germany pulling the strings while UK and France are drowning in debt and Islamic Muslim Militants.
You should change this commenting note to: If you are albanian or kosovar and you tell the truth, you will not be able to comment! Btw why u promote hate, why u used the picture from last protest, the last ones today were bigger and without violence, we respect serbs rights here in kosovo. I have many serbian friends and i have respect for them. I know serbian media spread that 3 churches were burned in entire kosovo during the war, yeah thats true i dont support that, but whats the value of those buildings compare to lives of innocent people who died from serbs during war. Im an atheist and i dont care about religion honestly, but why serbian media doesnt tell where its the mosque which was stick to the the main bridge in Mitrovica before the war. Or tell serbs that how i found my burned city to the ground after i came back from Albania. I hope we will have peace one day and respect each other, as i do with my serbian friends. Peace
I'm interested in Ari's expression "even if Serbia cannot CONTROL part of its territory". I do not know in what sense Ari meant 'control' but in many cases it is the desire of the larger part of an entity to exert control over smaller parts that leads to demands for independence. Scotland remained part of the UK in their referendum partly because there is no attempt at control by London. The Scots have their own Parliament and largely run their own affairs. Wales has its own language and acts of 1993 and 1998 mean that this language has equal status with English. Some things are better achieved together; economic success and common defence being two of the most important, but at no point is the issue of control (other than through budget grants from the centre) ever brought into focus. What was Serbia doing when it 'controlled' Kosovo; was it allowing the citizens there to freely conduct their own affairs and speak their own language widely or was it trying to suppress the K Albanians? Was it trying to reinforce the superiority of Serbs over Albanians (Peggy has admitted that she believes Serbs to be superior in previous posts) or treating everyone as an equal and important part of the state? I suppose some were doing one thing and others another, but the damage wrought in the late 1980's and early 1990's was never repaired.
Wash. Post, April 3, 1981; Yugoslavs Take Emergency Steps In Face of Ethnic Disturbance
The Economist, April 11, 1981; Yugoslavia; Home-grown Bother
NY Times, April 19, 1981; One Storm Passed, Others Gathering in Yugoslavia
Christian Science Monitor (CSM); May 7, 1981; Kosovo sparking a Yugoslav purge?
AP; Oct. 23, 1981; Minorities Leaving Yugoslav Province Dominated by Albanians
CSM, Dec. 16, 1981; Why turbulent Kosovo has marble sidewalks but troubled industries
Financial Times, Feb. 5, 1982; Police fail to crush resistance in Kosovo
Financial Times, June 1, 1982; Kosovo riots jolt the regions
NY Times, July 12, 1982; Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia
Facts on File World News Digest; September 10, 1982; Serbs in Kosovo Exodus
BBC World; May 4, 1985; Serbian Presidency discusses emigration from Kosovo
NY Times, April 28, 1986; In One Yugoslav Province Serbs Fear the Ethnic Albanians
Reuters; May 27, 1986, Kosovo Province Revives Yugoslavia's Ethnic Nightmare
NY Times; July 27, 1986, Minorities are Uneasy in Yugoslavian Province
CSM; July 28, 1986; Tensions among ethnic groups in Yugoslavia begin to boil over
BBC; Nov. 10, 1986; Group of Citizens from Kosovo Received in SFRY Assembly
Wash. Post; Nov. 29, 1986; Ethnic Rivalries Cause Unrest in Yugoslav Region
Reuters; August 16, 1987, Serbs & Montenegrans Rally Against Alleged Albanian Attacks
Should have never started making mythical stories about albanian anti-serb pograms durkng reign of Stambo and Sloba. Western media if I remember correctly only encourage serbs in late 80s by writing sbout 'massacres in Kosovo'. Paranoia will destroy ya like they say.
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