ICTY: Seselj trial verdict to be announced on March 31

@ Ari

This is what happened when Serbia decide to protect war criminals like Sesel and company, and interrupts cooperation with Hague Tribunal - hiding all the proofs – and treat war criminals like heroes.

It's showtime for Serbia. The moment of truth is getting closer. If it chooses to ignore the ICJ demands it might as well forget about the EU, and Vucic's house of cards will come tumbeling down. If it gives in, civil unrest will be one of the consequences, and Vucic's election plan will not play out the way he wanted to. I would not want to be in his skin right now.

"They they want to create a weaker government ... a weaker Serbia, which would not have such a good negotiating position in the dialogue with Pristina and one that will not be able to pursue an independent policy."

The usual blabla and conspiracy theories. Sorry, it's a standard procedure that the accused is present when the verdict is published. And since you can be 95% sure that he won't be acquitted, so Seselj will go straight back from the court to prison where he belongs.

P.S. With the totally unnecessary and only political motivated decision of calling new elections, Serbia weakened the government and its position, not with the extradition of the oh-so ill Seselj who is very active and full of energy when it comes to burning foreign flags.

For almost 15 years the Hague had Seselj in their custody to convict him of an actual war crime and failed to do so. And they had all the free time in the world given that they were quickly acquitting or not even prosecuting all of the war criminals in ex-YU that murdered Serbian civilians. Any ruling that they pass down should not be respected by Serbia. The ICTY is not a rational institution, it's entire existence from its foundation has been to commit political aggression on Serbia.

The whole world will be watching. Seselj has refused to return to the Hague. Serbia wants chapters opened for E.U talks. The best thing Serbia can do is arrest him sending him quickly to The Hague and move on from the dark days of the 90's. If Serbia starts to play politics with this issue it will feel the pain. The victims require justice.

The whole world will be watching.
(Brainiac, 15 February 2016 11:35)

LOL! The majority of the world couldn't locate the Balkans on a map and you think they know about Seslj? You need to broaden your horizons.

If there is anyone that factman has a problem with it is Croatia and their ongoing facist leanings.

Learn English so that you can properly contribute in an English language forum.
(factman, 15 February 2016 18:33)

Its spelled fascist - maybe you should follow your own advice

@ bucharest

Actually, he seems to me the most sane Serb here!

Serbia should simply request, once again from the ICTY, what conditions had the accused agreed to upon his release in Nov 2014. If the ICTY released Seselj without giving him any conditions, then ICTY's incompetence should be addressed by the UNSC. Not much Serbia can do if idiotic clowns masquerading as judges release individuals unconditionally.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump.
(chetnikchicago, 15 February 2016 13:38)

What a stupid comment. You are quite scared of what specific numbers?!?!

Do tells us - How many American Seselj supporters are there in America?

"Serbian Interior Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic said Saturday that the behavior of the Hague Tribunal was irresponsible and the requirement to ensure SRS leader Vojislav Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing was a hidden attempt at weakening the position of Serbia"

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)

Not much Serbia can do
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 15 February 2016 15:36)

Oh really?! I thought Seselj is in Serbia, but it looks like according to you he is not in Serbia since there is not much that Serbia can do!

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)
(icj1, 15 February 2016 18:57)

Can you someone explain to me the link between your brain and mouth? Maybe you should get together with New Brunswick along with his sister in law and uncle and have a lively debate on if Seselj will show up at the Kangaroo court.
(jugoslavija, 16 February 2016 19:30)

I'm not sure who New Brunswick is or who his sister and uncle is. But since you appear to be familiar with them, by all means feel free to have the debate hehe

So, back to the news story... Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)

I never understood how someone as Tomislav Nikolic could won the presidential election

Factman have in his Vk a picture of Sejeli he love him

and Factman is very extremist and racist he hate very much the muslims , gipsyes , romanians , and turks

That means the verdict is - Guilty - !.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump, maybe this is serbs final chance to get a new treaty of london.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump, maybe this is serbs final chance to get a new treaty of london.
(chetnikchicago, 15 February 2016 13:38)

Why are you surprised? It is the same typ of racist and fascist mentality.

If the Serbian government submits to the ICTY on this, they might as well change the name of the country to the EU protectorate of Влада народног спаса.

Nikolic and Vucic will protect their buddy.

What is the man guilty of? What? If they couldn't find something to nail on him after all this time, what could the accusation amount to? Why doesn't anyone posting in the comments proclaim him guilty of something? What are the facts? Just pronouncing somebody guilty of some crime without citing an actual event is pretty corrupt.

@chetnikchicago:

If what you are saying is factual than it's my belief that American supporters of Vojislav Seselj and Donald Trump himself are acting idiotic.Speaking of Trump my sister referred to him as an idiot and I also believe her father-in-law doesn't think highly of Trump as well.

Adrian_bucharest

I don't know what hash you are smoking, but factman said in his last post that he could give a sh*t about Seselj.

I challenge you to show any post where factman said racist remarks against any of the people you say below.

You lie.

If there is anyone that factman has a problem with it is Croatia and their ongoing facist leanings.

Learn English so that you can properly contribute in an English language forum.

I am sure chetnik community in Chicago knows about Seselj. I wouldn't advise our favorite pal Ari to go anywhere near them though.

adrian_bucharest,

You mistake my distaste for The Banana Court as admiration for Seselj.

Also, i think you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise when DEFLATION takes a hold of you. Ask the Japanese what they think about that.

Lower and lower prices is bad for an economy -- not good for an economy.

Deflation Link on Bloomberg Business News: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-15/romanian-deflation-deepens-in-january-after-new-tax-cuts

Paul, I suppose Seselj never actually killed anyone. People who went to Hague took responsibility for their footsoldiers and subordinates, otherwise you would have to put entire former Yugoslavia to Hague. I am personally willing to bet that Thaci did kill people personally, has he even denied that.

For once, I agree with AY. Seselj should not have been released by the first trial chamber in November 2014. Seselj should have stayed in prison, we agree AY. In fact, that wrong decision was revoked a few days later by another panel of judges but it was too late. And thank God that wrong decision was not repeated in the case of that general (Tolimir? Zvonkimir?) who died at the Hague a few days ago.

Lesson is: No Serbs should be released from the Hague for health reasons.

for factman part 2 look what happen without a Nikolic as president and without a Sejeli in public life ! deflation at the moment over 2% a new record http://www.bnr.ro/Home.aspx

xo xo xo xo xo

(icj1, 15 February 2016 19:07) according to you he is not in Serbia since there is not much that Serbia can do!

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According to the ICTY records, it was the ICTY that released Seselj.
According to the ICTY records, the ICTY did not give Seselj any conditions for his release.
In the months leading up to November 2014, Serbia requested that the ICTY and the defendant agree to conditions for his release. Serbia is bound by the specific conditions that were given to Seselj ..: None.

@Paul:

Perhaps what byassociation is telling you that even if Mr Seselj didn't directly murder his alleged victims he may have ordered the murders or didn't take any precautions to prevent murder from occurring meaning that if that is the case that he may be just as culpable as if he directly committed unjustifiable murder or you could even use the term mass homicide in this case.

If relevant to the topic I want to point out that back in 1988 a notorious American drug lord by the name of Howard "Pappy" Mason who also was the leader of a brutal gang known as the "Bebos" was arrested and jailed at the Rikers Island jail complex in the Bronx borough of New York City for illegally possessing a weapon and since he was discontent regarding his arrest and since he allegedly despises police he devised revenge so therefore when a gang member(s) visited him at Rikers he ordered and somehow paid his gang members $8000 or $8000 each to slay a cop so in late February of 1988 two members of the Bebos approached a lone cop seated in his "cruiser" in New York's Jamaica or Queens borough and one of the gang members shot the cop 3 or 5 times in the head.My point is that even though Howard Mason didn't directly murder that cop the fact is he ordered the murder and is considered just as culpable which should explain why he is serving a life sentence (possibly without the possibility of parole.)

resident of Fredericton, New Brunswick,Canada, 16 February 2016 15:59) # Comment link,

So if I comment that I hate my boss,and wish he was dead. The next day ,another staff member kills the boss,does that mean ,I have to go to jail!,stupid!

Starting with you Jugoslavia why would you make such a stupid assumption that I drink?? I never in my life consumed alcohol in my life for God's sake! Besides I have a live in 9 year old nephew and his 7 and a half year old brother I don't want to end up corrupting them or something and besides alcoholic beverages can also resulting in puking for some and trust me I dread vomiting and I can be a nervous "wreck",furthermore, if you or that Sasa P viewer doesn't like it that some people are against Trump than that's your problem or Sasa P's problem. As for you Sasa P why the heck are you calling me stupid?! in fact if you wish your boss was dead but someone else murdered your boss who says you'd go to jail? If you really thought that that would cause you to get arrested than you're the one who is acting stupid but of course if you ordered even paid someone for murder of course you can end up in jail and if you're smart you'll realize why.

If they truly examined the guy and he really is recovering from cancer than they should let him be. They were going to let Rudolf Hess walk back in the day due to amnesia.

Speaking of Trump my sister referred to him as an idiot and I also believe her father-in-law doesn't think highly of Trump as well.
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 February 2016 15:25) #

I should resist the urge to lambaste you but can't help it. Who the hell is your sister and father in law? The administrators for the Republican National Committee or GOP! Unbelievable, there should be an age restriction for comments. If you are over the drinking age, than you have had too much to drink which has dulled your senses.

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)
(icj1, 15 February 2016 18:57)

Can you someone explain to me the link between your brain and mouth? Maybe you should get together with New Brunswick along with his sister in law and uncle and have a lively debate on if Seselj will show up at the Kangaroo court.

For almost 15 years the Hague had Seselj in their custody to convict him of an actual war crime and failed to do so. And they had all the free time in the world given that they were quickly acquitting or not even prosecuting all of the war criminals in ex-YU that murdered Serbian civilians. Any ruling that they pass down should not be respected by Serbia. The ICTY is not a rational institution, it's entire existence from its foundation has been to commit political aggression on Serbia.

@ Ari

This is what happened when Serbia decide to protect war criminals like Sesel and company, and interrupts cooperation with Hague Tribunal - hiding all the proofs – and treat war criminals like heroes.

The whole world will be watching. Seselj has refused to return to the Hague. Serbia wants chapters opened for E.U talks. The best thing Serbia can do is arrest him sending him quickly to The Hague and move on from the dark days of the 90's. If Serbia starts to play politics with this issue it will feel the pain. The victims require justice.

It's showtime for Serbia. The moment of truth is getting closer. If it chooses to ignore the ICJ demands it might as well forget about the EU, and Vucic's house of cards will come tumbeling down. If it gives in, civil unrest will be one of the consequences, and Vucic's election plan will not play out the way he wanted to. I would not want to be in his skin right now.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump, maybe this is serbs final chance to get a new treaty of london.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump, maybe this is serbs final chance to get a new treaty of london.
(chetnikchicago, 15 February 2016 13:38)

Why are you surprised? It is the same typ of racist and fascist mentality.

Adrian_bucharest

I don't know what hash you are smoking, but factman said in his last post that he could give a sh*t about Seselj.

I challenge you to show any post where factman said racist remarks against any of the people you say below.

You lie.

If there is anyone that factman has a problem with it is Croatia and their ongoing facist leanings.

Learn English so that you can properly contribute in an English language forum.

What is the man guilty of? What? If they couldn't find something to nail on him after all this time, what could the accusation amount to? Why doesn't anyone posting in the comments proclaim him guilty of something? What are the facts? Just pronouncing somebody guilty of some crime without citing an actual event is pretty corrupt.

Speaking of Trump my sister referred to him as an idiot and I also believe her father-in-law doesn't think highly of Trump as well.
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 15 February 2016 15:25) #

I should resist the urge to lambaste you but can't help it. Who the hell is your sister and father in law? The administrators for the Republican National Committee or GOP! Unbelievable, there should be an age restriction for comments. If you are over the drinking age, than you have had too much to drink which has dulled your senses.

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)
(icj1, 15 February 2016 18:57)

Can you someone explain to me the link between your brain and mouth? Maybe you should get together with New Brunswick along with his sister in law and uncle and have a lively debate on if Seselj will show up at the Kangaroo court.

"They they want to create a weaker government ... a weaker Serbia, which would not have such a good negotiating position in the dialogue with Pristina and one that will not be able to pursue an independent policy."

The usual blabla and conspiracy theories. Sorry, it's a standard procedure that the accused is present when the verdict is published. And since you can be 95% sure that he won't be acquitted, so Seselj will go straight back from the court to prison where he belongs.

P.S. With the totally unnecessary and only political motivated decision of calling new elections, Serbia weakened the government and its position, not with the extradition of the oh-so ill Seselj who is very active and full of energy when it comes to burning foreign flags.

I never understood how someone as Tomislav Nikolic could won the presidential election

Factman have in his Vk a picture of Sejeli he love him

and Factman is very extremist and racist he hate very much the muslims , gipsyes , romanians , and turks

The whole world will be watching.
(Brainiac, 15 February 2016 11:35)

LOL! The majority of the world couldn't locate the Balkans on a map and you think they know about Seslj? You need to broaden your horizons.

I am sure chetnik community in Chicago knows about Seselj. I wouldn't advise our favorite pal Ari to go anywhere near them though.

resident of Fredericton, New Brunswick,Canada, 16 February 2016 15:59) # Comment link,

So if I comment that I hate my boss,and wish he was dead. The next day ,another staff member kills the boss,does that mean ,I have to go to jail!,stupid!

That means the verdict is - Guilty - !.

Nikolic and Vucic will protect their buddy.

Serbia should simply request, once again from the ICTY, what conditions had the accused agreed to upon his release in Nov 2014. If the ICTY released Seselj without giving him any conditions, then ICTY's incompetence should be addressed by the UNSC. Not much Serbia can do if idiotic clowns masquerading as judges release individuals unconditionally.

It is actually quite scary how many American Seselj supporters will vote for Trump.
(chetnikchicago, 15 February 2016 13:38)

What a stupid comment. You are quite scared of what specific numbers?!?!

Do tells us - How many American Seselj supporters are there in America?

adrian_bucharest,

You mistake my distaste for The Banana Court as admiration for Seselj.

Also, i think you are going to be in for an unpleasant surprise when DEFLATION takes a hold of you. Ask the Japanese what they think about that.

Lower and lower prices is bad for an economy -- not good for an economy.

Deflation Link on Bloomberg Business News: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-15/romanian-deflation-deepens-in-january-after-new-tax-cuts

for factman part 2 look what happen without a Nikolic as president and without a Sejeli in public life ! deflation at the moment over 2% a new record http://www.bnr.ro/Home.aspx

xo xo xo xo xo

If the Serbian government submits to the ICTY on this, they might as well change the name of the country to the EU protectorate of Влада народног спаса.

"Serbian Interior Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic said Saturday that the behavior of the Hague Tribunal was irresponsible and the requirement to ensure SRS leader Vojislav Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing was a hidden attempt at weakening the position of Serbia"

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)

Not much Serbia can do
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 15 February 2016 15:36)

Oh really?! I thought Seselj is in Serbia, but it looks like according to you he is not in Serbia since there is not much that Serbia can do!

If there is anyone that factman has a problem with it is Croatia and their ongoing facist leanings.

Learn English so that you can properly contribute in an English language forum.
(factman, 15 February 2016 18:33)

Its spelled fascist - maybe you should follow your own advice

Paul, I suppose Seselj never actually killed anyone. People who went to Hague took responsibility for their footsoldiers and subordinates, otherwise you would have to put entire former Yugoslavia to Hague. I am personally willing to bet that Thaci did kill people personally, has he even denied that.

(icj1, 15 February 2016 19:07) according to you he is not in Serbia since there is not much that Serbia can do!

---

According to the ICTY records, it was the ICTY that released Seselj.
According to the ICTY records, the ICTY did not give Seselj any conditions for his release.
In the months leading up to November 2014, Serbia requested that the ICTY and the defendant agree to conditions for his release. Serbia is bound by the specific conditions that were given to Seselj ..: None.

@Paul:

Perhaps what byassociation is telling you that even if Mr Seselj didn't directly murder his alleged victims he may have ordered the murders or didn't take any precautions to prevent murder from occurring meaning that if that is the case that he may be just as culpable as if he directly committed unjustifiable murder or you could even use the term mass homicide in this case.

If relevant to the topic I want to point out that back in 1988 a notorious American drug lord by the name of Howard "Pappy" Mason who also was the leader of a brutal gang known as the "Bebos" was arrested and jailed at the Rikers Island jail complex in the Bronx borough of New York City for illegally possessing a weapon and since he was discontent regarding his arrest and since he allegedly despises police he devised revenge so therefore when a gang member(s) visited him at Rikers he ordered and somehow paid his gang members $8000 or $8000 each to slay a cop so in late February of 1988 two members of the Bebos approached a lone cop seated in his "cruiser" in New York's Jamaica or Queens borough and one of the gang members shot the cop 3 or 5 times in the head.My point is that even though Howard Mason didn't directly murder that cop the fact is he ordered the murder and is considered just as culpable which should explain why he is serving a life sentence (possibly without the possibility of parole.)

Starting with you Jugoslavia why would you make such a stupid assumption that I drink?? I never in my life consumed alcohol in my life for God's sake! Besides I have a live in 9 year old nephew and his 7 and a half year old brother I don't want to end up corrupting them or something and besides alcoholic beverages can also resulting in puking for some and trust me I dread vomiting and I can be a nervous "wreck",furthermore, if you or that Sasa P viewer doesn't like it that some people are against Trump than that's your problem or Sasa P's problem. As for you Sasa P why the heck are you calling me stupid?! in fact if you wish your boss was dead but someone else murdered your boss who says you'd go to jail? If you really thought that that would cause you to get arrested than you're the one who is acting stupid but of course if you ordered even paid someone for murder of course you can end up in jail and if you're smart you'll realize why.

Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)
(icj1, 15 February 2016 18:57)

Can you someone explain to me the link between your brain and mouth? Maybe you should get together with New Brunswick along with his sister in law and uncle and have a lively debate on if Seselj will show up at the Kangaroo court.
(jugoslavija, 16 February 2016 19:30)

I'm not sure who New Brunswick is or who his sister and uncle is. But since you appear to be familiar with them, by all means feel free to have the debate hehe

So, back to the news story... Is anybody able to explain the linkage between the "weakening the position of Serbia" and "Seselj's attendance at the sentencing hearing"... this so-called "Minister" omitted to explain it :)

@ bucharest

Actually, he seems to me the most sane Serb here!

If they truly examined the guy and he really is recovering from cancer than they should let him be. They were going to let Rudolf Hess walk back in the day due to amnesia.

@chetnikchicago:

If what you are saying is factual than it's my belief that American supporters of Vojislav Seselj and Donald Trump himself are acting idiotic.Speaking of Trump my sister referred to him as an idiot and I also believe her father-in-law doesn't think highly of Trump as well.

For once, I agree with AY. Seselj should not have been released by the first trial chamber in November 2014. Seselj should have stayed in prison, we agree AY. In fact, that wrong decision was revoked a few days later by another panel of judges but it was too late. And thank God that wrong decision was not repeated in the case of that general (Tolimir? Zvonkimir?) who died at the Hague a few days ago.

Lesson is: No Serbs should be released from the Hague for health reasons.