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Friday, 12.02.2016.

11:52

Prime minister sends protest letter to Hague Tribunal

Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic has sent a protest letter to International Residual Mechanism for Criminal Tribunals President Theodor Meron.

Izvor: Tanjug

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sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 15 February 2016 19:16)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has not been taking medication that the good doctors prescribed.
Nice little Albo Idiot read the comment again then take your meds and all will be fine.

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court
(rote, 13 February 2016 17:52)

Well, of course I have no doubt that's what Russia has done with... words! But when it comes to actions in the last decade Russia has approved again that enemy of Serbdom called Theodor Meron! And I was referring to the actions, not the words...

icj1

pre 8 godina

In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia.
(sj, 15 February 2016 11:27)

That is the greatest news I have ever seen in these forums. So we will finally have Yugoslavia back after a quarter century, initially with Slovenia and Serbia as members. Let us all thank the CE of B92 forums sj for this very exciting news!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

factman

pre 8 godina

It's about time!
It only took 12 years!

Seselj incited people to hatred.
Is this a war crime? No.
Is it punishable by jail time. Yes.

Serbia itself should have convicted him for that (and then it wouldn't have to deal with this mess).

All of this stuff stands in the way of the real things: getting more foreign direct investment business expansion, growing GDP, creating jobs, creating a wider transportation network so more economic markets can be captured.

sj

pre 8 godina

(youlost, 13 February 2016 14:12)

Ask the Slovenes what they think about Milan Kucan. In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia. The politician they were after was Milan Kucan who by that stage left Slovenia and now lives very well in Germany.
Try picking a more credible person next time.

anonymous

pre 8 godina

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY Y'ALL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utl5it7YMUs

P.S. We all have to get back home before it's too late!

♪♫ When rain drops fall and you feel low
Ah, do you ever think it's useless
Do you feel like letting go
Do you ever sit and do you wonder
Will the world ever change
And just how long will it take
To have it all rearranged

Tell me why these things are still the same
Tell me why no one can seem to learn from mistakes

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

It's so easy to do nothin'
When you're busy night and day
Take a step in one direction
And take a step the other way
So don't quit tryin' when you stumble
Don't give up should you fall
Keep on searchin' for the passway
That will lead you through the wall
Don't look back or you'll be left behind
Don't look back or you will never find peace of mind

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes ♪♫

Rebeli

pre 8 godina

Definition of stupidity:

"Doing the same thing all over again and expecting different results"

I guess some people will never learn from the past.

factman

pre 8 godina

Count,

Lets stick to the matter at hand and not introduce K.

Fact: Delaying is a legitimate legal defense.

Fact: Delaying by a prosecutor is not a legitimate legal defense. The burden is on the prosecution to present speedily.

Not knowing how to work around that delay by a prosecutor (with every resource known to man at your disposal) is incompetence or deliberate delay.

Deliberate delay is due to lack of real evidence that can produce a conviction.

That means delay a really long time so the indicted serves at least some term.

Bannana Court.

Bought and paid for to manufacture outcomes pre-conceived by foreign capitals so that a certain history can be committed to the record books.

Read Chomsky.

Take a Legal 101 class.

PS: I am not defending Seselj or Milosevic. I could give a sh*t about either.

PPS: The court has no further power against Serbia. It has run out of steam. Full of hot air that is slowly being let out.

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court and two weeks ago through Lavrov Russia hinted that we may abandon this terrarium soon. I think Serbia must do the same and there will be one pressure machine missing …

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

The only thing worth sending to the Hague is a packet of wetwipe. The judges there are like a baby who's nappy has not only overflowed, but shot up their backs and in to their hair. Not that one packet would be enough, rather strip them and hose them down.

youlost

pre 8 godina

You quoted some clown serbian website, court never said that Racak was a hoax, can you serbs tell truth about anything. Milan Kucans testimony exposed that Milosevic used JNA and eventually serbs living outside Serbia as a tool to create Greater Serbia, it took one testimony. JNA went from protecting Yugoslavia to protecting ethnic serbs.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)


factman,
Do I detect a hint of bitterness? No need for that, Serbia will gain EU membership once it recognizes the Republic of Kosova, not sooner.

If Seselj and Milosevic had not continuously tried to delay their respective trials with all manner of chicanery, their trials would have concluded long ago and they would have the rest of their lives to play Chess together in the comfort of the prison of the "Banana" Court.

icj1

pre 8 godina

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)

By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

icj1

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!
(Jugoslavija, 12 February 2016 21:29)

No need to ask anybody not to worry, since few people, if any, would worry about the writings of a certain Jugoslavija which are not supported by any evidence other than because this certain Jugoslavija said so.

Paul

pre 8 godina

It's hard to imagine why the contents of the letter are not to be made public, unless it is to cover up some embarrassing servility on the part of Vucic. I rather doubt he is a tiger behind the scenes, more likely the opposite.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Selakovic says the Hague can't wipe the floor with Serbia but do they think they'll do with this letter? Cheap political posturing from an amateur for a PM. Little boys playing with men.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!

"During Milosevic's trial for war crimes NATO alleged that the Serbs had committed a massacre of Albanian civilians in the Kosovo town of Racak. Evidence presented in the court showed that NATO's claim was a hoax. This is especially embarrassing because the allegation of a massacre at Racak was the excuse that NATO used to begin bombing the Serbs on 24 March 1999 (the carpet bombing were done by the United States Air Force -authorized by then president Bill and Hillary Clinton). Then NATO claimed that the Serbs had supposedly been murdering 100,000 Albanian civilians. However, NATO's own forensics reported that they could not find even one body of an Albanian civilian murdered by Milosevic's forces. The failure to find any bodies eventually led to NATO's absurd claim that the Serbs had supposedly covered up the genocide by moving the many thousands of bodies in freezer trucks deep into Serbia (while Bill Clinton was carpet bombing the place) without leaving a single trace of evidence. But the Hague tribunal showed these accusations to be entirely fraudulent as well." http://www.sott.net/article/232912-Assassinations-by-induced-heart-attack-and-cancer

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

What a laugh the “Hague Tribunal” will make!
(Joni, 12 February 2016 14:56) # Comment link

To Joni,
The first thing you open your mouth that I agreed!.The Comedy Company starring "the Hague Tribunal", as the main act!.
What a Laugh, 12 years in jail ,no conviction or witness that even saw him in a battle zone,it made me laugh out loud with tears!
Hopefully on of the American network make's a Comedy Sitcom ."Hague trial's", starring Jen Keong(hangover movies)(Asain Judge),Zach Galifianakis,and Jerry Stiller as Judges .Chris Rock as the loud mouth prosecutor(has to be African-American).Starring as Seselj ,actor Will Farrell with glasses.

Uavinalarf

pre 8 godina

This kangaroo court dishes out justice based only on one fundamental concept,it's paymasters required outcomes.It is a debacle,a hideous joke that's gone on far too long and no amount of dressing up in fancy robes is going to convince anyone that these presiding wig-less wonders are anything other than puppets. Puppets better employed on a new series of Thunderbirds than trashing justice in the way that they have for what seems like an eternity. Expect Dr.V.Seselj to be convicted any day now based on nothing more than his magnificent performance in front of these puppets,who are in no way his intellectual peers and the spurious allegations against him. Vucic shouldn't dignify these individuals with any respect,they don't deserve any.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting."

No, they will slow down Serbia's EU accession, they will not only be issuing protest notes like Serbia's gov. has done here, to appeal to its more militant crowd.

"Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll." You know, had the court been sentencing ONLY Serbs, I would have grounds to agree with you, but since the list of convicted persons include non Serbs as well, I'd say you write this to feel as some sort of moral victor. It isn't the fault of anyone that members of the heavenly didn't know when to stop killing.

as for this "It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals,...", this is just you dabbling in conspiracy theories, nothing else

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting. Let's just hope Serbia's gov't stands firm.

factman

pre 8 godina

Yes. The Hague re-elected Vucic.

A clear indicator of a number of things.

First, the West supports Vucic and Serbia's current path

Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll.

It has nothing really to do with "justice." Instead, It manufactures outcomes which it uses to construct sanitized versions of justice.

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals, while also white washing their own roles -- and the roles of the other civil war participants.

It has done nothing to create reconcilliation -- which is one primary role of justice

It is nothing more than just another Consumer brand. The people of all countries know and understand justice when they see it and feel it. Not when some "brand" tells them it is justice.

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.

Principa

pre 8 godina

Can't help but feel this is electioneering bravado in some way inspired by none other than SpinMaster BLiar (aka war monster http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ezR0Go_ATlE/UEnOOH4KpyI/AAAAAAAAAZg/zWQMDUdsL9Y/s1600/blair_primemonster.jpg ) following the "coffee chat" advise given last February.

factman

pre 8 godina

Yes. The Hague re-elected Vucic.

A clear indicator of a number of things.

First, the West supports Vucic and Serbia's current path

Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll.

It has nothing really to do with "justice." Instead, It manufactures outcomes which it uses to construct sanitized versions of justice.

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals, while also white washing their own roles -- and the roles of the other civil war participants.

It has done nothing to create reconcilliation -- which is one primary role of justice

It is nothing more than just another Consumer brand. The people of all countries know and understand justice when they see it and feel it. Not when some "brand" tells them it is justice.

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Selakovic says the Hague can't wipe the floor with Serbia but do they think they'll do with this letter? Cheap political posturing from an amateur for a PM. Little boys playing with men.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting."

No, they will slow down Serbia's EU accession, they will not only be issuing protest notes like Serbia's gov. has done here, to appeal to its more militant crowd.

"Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll." You know, had the court been sentencing ONLY Serbs, I would have grounds to agree with you, but since the list of convicted persons include non Serbs as well, I'd say you write this to feel as some sort of moral victor. It isn't the fault of anyone that members of the heavenly didn't know when to stop killing.

as for this "It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals,...", this is just you dabbling in conspiracy theories, nothing else

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!

"During Milosevic's trial for war crimes NATO alleged that the Serbs had committed a massacre of Albanian civilians in the Kosovo town of Racak. Evidence presented in the court showed that NATO's claim was a hoax. This is especially embarrassing because the allegation of a massacre at Racak was the excuse that NATO used to begin bombing the Serbs on 24 March 1999 (the carpet bombing were done by the United States Air Force -authorized by then president Bill and Hillary Clinton). Then NATO claimed that the Serbs had supposedly been murdering 100,000 Albanian civilians. However, NATO's own forensics reported that they could not find even one body of an Albanian civilian murdered by Milosevic's forces. The failure to find any bodies eventually led to NATO's absurd claim that the Serbs had supposedly covered up the genocide by moving the many thousands of bodies in freezer trucks deep into Serbia (while Bill Clinton was carpet bombing the place) without leaving a single trace of evidence. But the Hague tribunal showed these accusations to be entirely fraudulent as well." http://www.sott.net/article/232912-Assassinations-by-induced-heart-attack-and-cancer

youlost

pre 8 godina

You quoted some clown serbian website, court never said that Racak was a hoax, can you serbs tell truth about anything. Milan Kucans testimony exposed that Milosevic used JNA and eventually serbs living outside Serbia as a tool to create Greater Serbia, it took one testimony. JNA went from protecting Yugoslavia to protecting ethnic serbs.

factman

pre 8 godina

Count,

Lets stick to the matter at hand and not introduce K.

Fact: Delaying is a legitimate legal defense.

Fact: Delaying by a prosecutor is not a legitimate legal defense. The burden is on the prosecution to present speedily.

Not knowing how to work around that delay by a prosecutor (with every resource known to man at your disposal) is incompetence or deliberate delay.

Deliberate delay is due to lack of real evidence that can produce a conviction.

That means delay a really long time so the indicted serves at least some term.

Bannana Court.

Bought and paid for to manufacture outcomes pre-conceived by foreign capitals so that a certain history can be committed to the record books.

Read Chomsky.

Take a Legal 101 class.

PS: I am not defending Seselj or Milosevic. I could give a sh*t about either.

PPS: The court has no further power against Serbia. It has run out of steam. Full of hot air that is slowly being let out.

Paul

pre 8 godina

It's hard to imagine why the contents of the letter are not to be made public, unless it is to cover up some embarrassing servility on the part of Vucic. I rather doubt he is a tiger behind the scenes, more likely the opposite.

icj1

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!
(Jugoslavija, 12 February 2016 21:29)

No need to ask anybody not to worry, since few people, if any, would worry about the writings of a certain Jugoslavija which are not supported by any evidence other than because this certain Jugoslavija said so.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)


factman,
Do I detect a hint of bitterness? No need for that, Serbia will gain EU membership once it recognizes the Republic of Kosova, not sooner.

If Seselj and Milosevic had not continuously tried to delay their respective trials with all manner of chicanery, their trials would have concluded long ago and they would have the rest of their lives to play Chess together in the comfort of the prison of the "Banana" Court.

Rebeli

pre 8 godina

Definition of stupidity:

"Doing the same thing all over again and expecting different results"

I guess some people will never learn from the past.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

What a laugh the “Hague Tribunal” will make!
(Joni, 12 February 2016 14:56) # Comment link

To Joni,
The first thing you open your mouth that I agreed!.The Comedy Company starring "the Hague Tribunal", as the main act!.
What a Laugh, 12 years in jail ,no conviction or witness that even saw him in a battle zone,it made me laugh out loud with tears!
Hopefully on of the American network make's a Comedy Sitcom ."Hague trial's", starring Jen Keong(hangover movies)(Asain Judge),Zach Galifianakis,and Jerry Stiller as Judges .Chris Rock as the loud mouth prosecutor(has to be African-American).Starring as Seselj ,actor Will Farrell with glasses.

Uavinalarf

pre 8 godina

This kangaroo court dishes out justice based only on one fundamental concept,it's paymasters required outcomes.It is a debacle,a hideous joke that's gone on far too long and no amount of dressing up in fancy robes is going to convince anyone that these presiding wig-less wonders are anything other than puppets. Puppets better employed on a new series of Thunderbirds than trashing justice in the way that they have for what seems like an eternity. Expect Dr.V.Seselj to be convicted any day now based on nothing more than his magnificent performance in front of these puppets,who are in no way his intellectual peers and the spurious allegations against him. Vucic shouldn't dignify these individuals with any respect,they don't deserve any.

icj1

pre 8 godina

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)

By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

Principa

pre 8 godina

Can't help but feel this is electioneering bravado in some way inspired by none other than SpinMaster BLiar (aka war monster http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ezR0Go_ATlE/UEnOOH4KpyI/AAAAAAAAAZg/zWQMDUdsL9Y/s1600/blair_primemonster.jpg ) following the "coffee chat" advise given last February.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

The only thing worth sending to the Hague is a packet of wetwipe. The judges there are like a baby who's nappy has not only overflowed, but shot up their backs and in to their hair. Not that one packet would be enough, rather strip them and hose them down.

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court and two weeks ago through Lavrov Russia hinted that we may abandon this terrarium soon. I think Serbia must do the same and there will be one pressure machine missing …

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting. Let's just hope Serbia's gov't stands firm.

icj1

pre 8 godina

In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia.
(sj, 15 February 2016 11:27)

That is the greatest news I have ever seen in these forums. So we will finally have Yugoslavia back after a quarter century, initially with Slovenia and Serbia as members. Let us all thank the CE of B92 forums sj for this very exciting news!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court
(rote, 13 February 2016 17:52)

Well, of course I have no doubt that's what Russia has done with... words! But when it comes to actions in the last decade Russia has approved again that enemy of Serbdom called Theodor Meron! And I was referring to the actions, not the words...

anonymous

pre 8 godina

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY Y'ALL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utl5it7YMUs

P.S. We all have to get back home before it's too late!

♪♫ When rain drops fall and you feel low
Ah, do you ever think it's useless
Do you feel like letting go
Do you ever sit and do you wonder
Will the world ever change
And just how long will it take
To have it all rearranged

Tell me why these things are still the same
Tell me why no one can seem to learn from mistakes

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

It's so easy to do nothin'
When you're busy night and day
Take a step in one direction
And take a step the other way
So don't quit tryin' when you stumble
Don't give up should you fall
Keep on searchin' for the passway
That will lead you through the wall
Don't look back or you'll be left behind
Don't look back or you will never find peace of mind

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes ♪♫

sj

pre 8 godina

(youlost, 13 February 2016 14:12)

Ask the Slovenes what they think about Milan Kucan. In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia. The politician they were after was Milan Kucan who by that stage left Slovenia and now lives very well in Germany.
Try picking a more credible person next time.

factman

pre 8 godina

It's about time!
It only took 12 years!

Seselj incited people to hatred.
Is this a war crime? No.
Is it punishable by jail time. Yes.

Serbia itself should have convicted him for that (and then it wouldn't have to deal with this mess).

All of this stuff stands in the way of the real things: getting more foreign direct investment business expansion, growing GDP, creating jobs, creating a wider transportation network so more economic markets can be captured.

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 15 February 2016 19:16)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has not been taking medication that the good doctors prescribed.
Nice little Albo Idiot read the comment again then take your meds and all will be fine.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting. Let's just hope Serbia's gov't stands firm.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

What a laugh the “Hague Tribunal” will make!
(Joni, 12 February 2016 14:56) # Comment link

To Joni,
The first thing you open your mouth that I agreed!.The Comedy Company starring "the Hague Tribunal", as the main act!.
What a Laugh, 12 years in jail ,no conviction or witness that even saw him in a battle zone,it made me laugh out loud with tears!
Hopefully on of the American network make's a Comedy Sitcom ."Hague trial's", starring Jen Keong(hangover movies)(Asain Judge),Zach Galifianakis,and Jerry Stiller as Judges .Chris Rock as the loud mouth prosecutor(has to be African-American).Starring as Seselj ,actor Will Farrell with glasses.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)


factman,
Do I detect a hint of bitterness? No need for that, Serbia will gain EU membership once it recognizes the Republic of Kosova, not sooner.

If Seselj and Milosevic had not continuously tried to delay their respective trials with all manner of chicanery, their trials would have concluded long ago and they would have the rest of their lives to play Chess together in the comfort of the prison of the "Banana" Court.

factman

pre 8 godina

Yes. The Hague re-elected Vucic.

A clear indicator of a number of things.

First, the West supports Vucic and Serbia's current path

Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll.

It has nothing really to do with "justice." Instead, It manufactures outcomes which it uses to construct sanitized versions of justice.

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals, while also white washing their own roles -- and the roles of the other civil war participants.

It has done nothing to create reconcilliation -- which is one primary role of justice

It is nothing more than just another Consumer brand. The people of all countries know and understand justice when they see it and feel it. Not when some "brand" tells them it is justice.

Banana Court bought and paid for.

It should be challenged with continual obstinance. Serbia is far enough down the path of European re-integration where it cannot be dis-integrated in any substantial way.

A Banana Court with every resource known to th modern world but which is unable to convict a man in 12 years..... or to even protect witnesses.

Incompetent to even convict Milosevic. Lets not even get into the murky events of his death.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!

"During Milosevic's trial for war crimes NATO alleged that the Serbs had committed a massacre of Albanian civilians in the Kosovo town of Racak. Evidence presented in the court showed that NATO's claim was a hoax. This is especially embarrassing because the allegation of a massacre at Racak was the excuse that NATO used to begin bombing the Serbs on 24 March 1999 (the carpet bombing were done by the United States Air Force -authorized by then president Bill and Hillary Clinton). Then NATO claimed that the Serbs had supposedly been murdering 100,000 Albanian civilians. However, NATO's own forensics reported that they could not find even one body of an Albanian civilian murdered by Milosevic's forces. The failure to find any bodies eventually led to NATO's absurd claim that the Serbs had supposedly covered up the genocide by moving the many thousands of bodies in freezer trucks deep into Serbia (while Bill Clinton was carpet bombing the place) without leaving a single trace of evidence. But the Hague tribunal showed these accusations to be entirely fraudulent as well." http://www.sott.net/article/232912-Assassinations-by-induced-heart-attack-and-cancer

icj1

pre 8 godina

RE: Kangaroo Court

Don't worry Albanian criminals, the Hague Tribunal has already been exposed by Milosevic who brilliantly exposed the false witnesses, false testimonies and not one shred of evidence to convict him. This so called court resorted to murder in order to cover up it's crimes!
(Jugoslavija, 12 February 2016 21:29)

No need to ask anybody not to worry, since few people, if any, would worry about the writings of a certain Jugoslavija which are not supported by any evidence other than because this certain Jugoslavija said so.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You can laugh at Serbia's protest note, but if Serbia cuts cooperation with the Hague then it is you who will be protesting."

No, they will slow down Serbia's EU accession, they will not only be issuing protest notes like Serbia's gov. has done here, to appeal to its more militant crowd.

"Second, the court is a Banana Court. Bought and paid for. With little independence from political payroll." You know, had the court been sentencing ONLY Serbs, I would have grounds to agree with you, but since the list of convicted persons include non Serbs as well, I'd say you write this to feel as some sort of moral victor. It isn't the fault of anyone that members of the heavenly didn't know when to stop killing.

as for this "It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals,...", this is just you dabbling in conspiracy theories, nothing else

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

The only thing worth sending to the Hague is a packet of wetwipe. The judges there are like a baby who's nappy has not only overflowed, but shot up their backs and in to their hair. Not that one packet would be enough, rather strip them and hose them down.

youlost

pre 8 godina

You quoted some clown serbian website, court never said that Racak was a hoax, can you serbs tell truth about anything. Milan Kucans testimony exposed that Milosevic used JNA and eventually serbs living outside Serbia as a tool to create Greater Serbia, it took one testimony. JNA went from protecting Yugoslavia to protecting ethnic serbs.

Uavinalarf

pre 8 godina

This kangaroo court dishes out justice based only on one fundamental concept,it's paymasters required outcomes.It is a debacle,a hideous joke that's gone on far too long and no amount of dressing up in fancy robes is going to convince anyone that these presiding wig-less wonders are anything other than puppets. Puppets better employed on a new series of Thunderbirds than trashing justice in the way that they have for what seems like an eternity. Expect Dr.V.Seselj to be convicted any day now based on nothing more than his magnificent performance in front of these puppets,who are in no way his intellectual peers and the spurious allegations against him. Vucic shouldn't dignify these individuals with any respect,they don't deserve any.

icj1

pre 8 godina

It pre-conceives outcomes so a history can be manufactured which suits certain capitals
(factman, 12 February 2016 14:57)

By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court and two weeks ago through Lavrov Russia hinted that we may abandon this terrarium soon. I think Serbia must do the same and there will be one pressure machine missing …

factman

pre 8 godina

Count,

Lets stick to the matter at hand and not introduce K.

Fact: Delaying is a legitimate legal defense.

Fact: Delaying by a prosecutor is not a legitimate legal defense. The burden is on the prosecution to present speedily.

Not knowing how to work around that delay by a prosecutor (with every resource known to man at your disposal) is incompetence or deliberate delay.

Deliberate delay is due to lack of real evidence that can produce a conviction.

That means delay a really long time so the indicted serves at least some term.

Bannana Court.

Bought and paid for to manufacture outcomes pre-conceived by foreign capitals so that a certain history can be committed to the record books.

Read Chomsky.

Take a Legal 101 class.

PS: I am not defending Seselj or Milosevic. I could give a sh*t about either.

PPS: The court has no further power against Serbia. It has run out of steam. Full of hot air that is slowly being let out.

sj

pre 8 godina

(youlost, 13 February 2016 14:12)

Ask the Slovenes what they think about Milan Kucan. In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia. The politician they were after was Milan Kucan who by that stage left Slovenia and now lives very well in Germany.
Try picking a more credible person next time.

Principa

pre 8 godina

Can't help but feel this is electioneering bravado in some way inspired by none other than SpinMaster BLiar (aka war monster http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ezR0Go_ATlE/UEnOOH4KpyI/AAAAAAAAAZg/zWQMDUdsL9Y/s1600/blair_primemonster.jpg ) following the "coffee chat" advise given last February.

Paul

pre 8 godina

It's hard to imagine why the contents of the letter are not to be made public, unless it is to cover up some embarrassing servility on the part of Vucic. I rather doubt he is a tiger behind the scenes, more likely the opposite.

Rebeli

pre 8 godina

Definition of stupidity:

"Doing the same thing all over again and expecting different results"

I guess some people will never learn from the past.

factman

pre 8 godina

It's about time!
It only took 12 years!

Seselj incited people to hatred.
Is this a war crime? No.
Is it punishable by jail time. Yes.

Serbia itself should have convicted him for that (and then it wouldn't have to deal with this mess).

All of this stuff stands in the way of the real things: getting more foreign direct investment business expansion, growing GDP, creating jobs, creating a wider transportation network so more economic markets can be captured.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Selakovic says the Hague can't wipe the floor with Serbia but do they think they'll do with this letter? Cheap political posturing from an amateur for a PM. Little boys playing with men.

anonymous

pre 8 godina

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY Y'ALL! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utl5it7YMUs

P.S. We all have to get back home before it's too late!

♪♫ When rain drops fall and you feel low
Ah, do you ever think it's useless
Do you feel like letting go
Do you ever sit and do you wonder
Will the world ever change
And just how long will it take
To have it all rearranged

Tell me why these things are still the same
Tell me why no one can seem to learn from mistakes

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

It's so easy to do nothin'
When you're busy night and day
Take a step in one direction
And take a step the other way
So don't quit tryin' when you stumble
Don't give up should you fall
Keep on searchin' for the passway
That will lead you through the wall
Don't look back or you'll be left behind
Don't look back or you will never find peace of mind

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes twelve

Take my hand if you don't know where your goin'
I'll understand, I've lost the way myself
Oh, don't take that old road it leads to nowhere
We must return before the clock strikes ♪♫

icj1

pre 8 godina

In late 2014 mass demonstrations were held in Ljubljana to demand from their politicians an explanation why better living standards have not materialised as promised to Slovenes if they left Yugoslavia.
(sj, 15 February 2016 11:27)

That is the greatest news I have ever seen in these forums. So we will finally have Yugoslavia back after a quarter century, initially with Slovenia and Serbia as members. Let us all thank the CE of B92 forums sj for this very exciting news!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

icj1 : By "capitals", do you mean Moscow? (since Russia proposed the court, approved its creation and has approved over the years all its judges, some more than once)

The truth is also that last decade Russia many times criticized the court
(rote, 13 February 2016 17:52)

Well, of course I have no doubt that's what Russia has done with... words! But when it comes to actions in the last decade Russia has approved again that enemy of Serbdom called Theodor Meron! And I was referring to the actions, not the words...

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 15 February 2016 19:16)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has not been taking medication that the good doctors prescribed.
Nice little Albo Idiot read the comment again then take your meds and all will be fine.