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Monday, 08.02.2016.

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President says Serbia is torn between East and West

Serbia has "the East in its heart," President Tomislav Nikolic said on Monday, adding that the country at the same time "wants to live like the West."

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to be fair

pre 8 godina

@icj
yes indeed the balkan peninsula is one of the most sought after regions for numerous reasons. growing conditions are among europe's best. it is at the intersection of europe and eurasia - all land trade goes through balkans.
now serbia specifically isn't as interesting. neither is any one particular state in the balkans. the key is for outside forces to have easy access to allow their traded goods to pass without having to pay the toll.
there's a reason why the colonials had to go elsewhere to feed and enrich their own. northern-rich europe does not have the means to feed their people without importing it, and haven't for a number of generations. having full control of the trade route makes it cheaper and thus creates more profit for those that would wish to control the balkans.
all it takes is just 1 path. serbia has negotiated itself out of that path for the time being. but can europe trust the plan b path that it has had to go? so, yes lets control everything and we'll have seem-less smooth enterprise.

rote

pre 8 godina

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

(LK, 9 February 2016 18:01)


we both know that crna gora is a corridor to mother russia so serbs and russians are as one here ... thus when i say "we" i mean us - the srbs and the russkie ! feel free to ask more !

LK

pre 8 godina

We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership.
(rote, 9 February 2016 08:53)

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.
(Moderate Serb, 9 February 2016 08:11)
==============================
Thank you Dr. Freud.
Moderate Serb, sorry, extremely anti Serb, maybe you are the one who is dysfunctional. You see, a mentally sick person always thinks that the other guy is sick not him.

rote

pre 8 godina

Moderate Serb : Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

In my country people like you are called “конченный пидараз” ! But you are a silly pidaraz because you still think that there’s something you can do to spoil the Russian-Serbian relations. At least we all remember the context when desperate people in Kosovo asked for citizenship. Russia did not rejected it but we think that those people live on their own lands and Russia must help them on this Serbian soil.


Michael Thomas : Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU.

Exactly ! Especially now that we know that inside the EU there are 3 castes and Serbia will never rise higher that the lowest one where Romania and Bulgaria have settled.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as Nikolic is.
(Bob, 8 February 2016 17:36)

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.

rote

pre 8 godina

When you get ready to wedding and bad news is coming about the girl you have to think twice. First you learn that the breasts and the nose are artificial. Then someone tells you that she already have children and finally you hear that she is sick … All these should make ask yourself if she is still so good for you. Nothing of the kind is happening to Serbia and it behaves as it was 10 years ago. No increasing refugees tsunami no economic problems of EU no Greek problems no British referendum and nothing else can stop the Serbian elites from the path ! Maybe some prepayments were already made and the money is already spent? What is the need of the permanent early elections ? Why not arrange a referendum instead? We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership. As if we have a consensus over the issue ... Also I think that most Serbians do not have problems in their choice between the west and the east.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

Serbia as part of the EU will wilt and die like other East European countries.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Michael,
I have news for you, Serbia wilted and died long ago. It is obvious you do not live in Serbia.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better."
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Yes, very few. For example Mira Markovic and her honorable son - but not even them went there because of idealism, only to escape Serbian justice, protected by Putin.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.
(LK, 8 February 2016 22:25)

Unfortunately that does not match the myths in the head of our dear friend Michael Thomas!

Paul

pre 8 godina

Pakistan is to India what Kosovo is to Serbia. It is hard to imagine anything more foolish than citing friendship with one of the most squalid and dangerous Muslim countries in central Asia. When Pakistan is as civilized as Kosovo is now, Afghanistan and India will be safer places from it. And we know how bad Kosovo is now.

This guy is proving to be a real fool. Will elections flush him out?

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Torn between good and evil, torn between God and the Devil! Satans illusion of happieness, the Devils temptations! Of all nations Serbia in the cradle of the Balkans in the eyes of God and also the Devil! Drom the womb of one Mother why does one brother follow God and the other follow the Devil? Our Serbian History, does any one Serbian living today still remember it? Why are we born only to die in darkness? The East in our hearts and the West is where we want to be, but we Serbian people need to make the choice very soon because this time and era it really is the cross roads of our eternity! Yes we Serbian people can turn to the West and turn our backs to the East, some will live but Serbia will for sure die, our Slava and our faith only distant memories of the ages! The ones who live will eat with a silver spoon but that food will be contaminated with the curses of all our Fathers who look down upon us from the Heavens! The time has come, Satan is asking that we Serbian people turn our Backs to our true loving Mother Russia and to spit on our faith and our most sacred Slava! If we do follow the USA, England and Germany then what will it mean for the typical and ordinary Serbian? What reward waits for Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity if we turn our backs to God? Why do Eastern Orthodox Christians face East when they pray, is it because the Sun rises before us or is it because we face the sacred eternal rays of hope that only can be delivered by Holy Divinity?

LK

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

icj1

pre 8 godina

We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 February 2016 15:59)

Yes, dear you are God's chosen and the world revolves around Serbia! I hope this makes you have a better sleep tonight. If not, let me know and I can provide you with another dose of the above to feed you megalomania :)

LK

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.

Bob

pre 8 godina

This man spends his time looking for friends and family.

I think he has emotional problems and doesn't feel wanted.

People who go around with this kind of insecurity give me the creeps.

He might be more useful if he got on with some real work developing the country instead of forever talking about who his brothers are and who his friends are.

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as he is.

svabo

pre 8 godina

Serbia has "the East in its heart," "wants to live like the West."


Could have had it all but nationalistic fuks from the stoneage ruined all, and no serbian bighead will admit that ever, and that's why history will repeat it self again and again and again.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia flourished under Tito... We were not East or west, we were yugoslavia...

We will not head east or west... We will not be torn between the two... We are now Serbia, we were yugoslavia and we will once again become Yugoslavia, we never choose sides, this is what made us unique, strong and an international player...

It is East and west which comes to Serbia and I say let them come, we will not go to them, we are the mediators for them and we are who we are, we are neither East or west...

Our slavic bloodline leads us East and we will not forget our slavic brothers and sisters, and our economy leads us west and we will take our market share in the west... Yugoslavia done so well because Tito used the East west paradigm to his advantage, he created a prosperous Yugoslavia by playing brilliant politics, he did not choose East or west, they choose both choose him, they chose Yugoslavia....!

Nothing has changed and it will not change for the forseable future... Let them come to Serbia, let them do business with us, let us rebuild the former yugoslav republics using ingenious methods and a geopolitical strategy, we benefited once before from the east west paradigm, so why not do it again... We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world, we should not waste this perfect opportunity, we should harness its power...!

Bob

pre 8 godina

This man spends his time looking for friends and family.

I think he has emotional problems and doesn't feel wanted.

People who go around with this kind of insecurity give me the creeps.

He might be more useful if he got on with some real work developing the country instead of forever talking about who his brothers are and who his friends are.

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as he is.

LK

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia flourished under Tito... We were not East or west, we were yugoslavia...

We will not head east or west... We will not be torn between the two... We are now Serbia, we were yugoslavia and we will once again become Yugoslavia, we never choose sides, this is what made us unique, strong and an international player...

It is East and west which comes to Serbia and I say let them come, we will not go to them, we are the mediators for them and we are who we are, we are neither East or west...

Our slavic bloodline leads us East and we will not forget our slavic brothers and sisters, and our economy leads us west and we will take our market share in the west... Yugoslavia done so well because Tito used the East west paradigm to his advantage, he created a prosperous Yugoslavia by playing brilliant politics, he did not choose East or west, they choose both choose him, they chose Yugoslavia....!

Nothing has changed and it will not change for the forseable future... Let them come to Serbia, let them do business with us, let us rebuild the former yugoslav republics using ingenious methods and a geopolitical strategy, we benefited once before from the east west paradigm, so why not do it again... We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world, we should not waste this perfect opportunity, we should harness its power...!

svabo

pre 8 godina

Serbia has "the East in its heart," "wants to live like the West."


Could have had it all but nationalistic fuks from the stoneage ruined all, and no serbian bighead will admit that ever, and that's why history will repeat it self again and again and again.

icj1

pre 8 godina

We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 February 2016 15:59)

Yes, dear you are God's chosen and the world revolves around Serbia! I hope this makes you have a better sleep tonight. If not, let me know and I can provide you with another dose of the above to feed you megalomania :)

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as Nikolic is.
(Bob, 8 February 2016 17:36)

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.

LK

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

Serbia as part of the EU will wilt and die like other East European countries.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Michael,
I have news for you, Serbia wilted and died long ago. It is obvious you do not live in Serbia.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Torn between good and evil, torn between God and the Devil! Satans illusion of happieness, the Devils temptations! Of all nations Serbia in the cradle of the Balkans in the eyes of God and also the Devil! Drom the womb of one Mother why does one brother follow God and the other follow the Devil? Our Serbian History, does any one Serbian living today still remember it? Why are we born only to die in darkness? The East in our hearts and the West is where we want to be, but we Serbian people need to make the choice very soon because this time and era it really is the cross roads of our eternity! Yes we Serbian people can turn to the West and turn our backs to the East, some will live but Serbia will for sure die, our Slava and our faith only distant memories of the ages! The ones who live will eat with a silver spoon but that food will be contaminated with the curses of all our Fathers who look down upon us from the Heavens! The time has come, Satan is asking that we Serbian people turn our Backs to our true loving Mother Russia and to spit on our faith and our most sacred Slava! If we do follow the USA, England and Germany then what will it mean for the typical and ordinary Serbian? What reward waits for Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity if we turn our backs to God? Why do Eastern Orthodox Christians face East when they pray, is it because the Sun rises before us or is it because we face the sacred eternal rays of hope that only can be delivered by Holy Divinity?

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better."
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Yes, very few. For example Mira Markovic and her honorable son - but not even them went there because of idealism, only to escape Serbian justice, protected by Putin.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.
(LK, 8 February 2016 22:25)

Unfortunately that does not match the myths in the head of our dear friend Michael Thomas!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.
(Moderate Serb, 9 February 2016 08:11)
==============================
Thank you Dr. Freud.
Moderate Serb, sorry, extremely anti Serb, maybe you are the one who is dysfunctional. You see, a mentally sick person always thinks that the other guy is sick not him.

rote

pre 8 godina

Moderate Serb : Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

In my country people like you are called “конченный пидараз” ! But you are a silly pidaraz because you still think that there’s something you can do to spoil the Russian-Serbian relations. At least we all remember the context when desperate people in Kosovo asked for citizenship. Russia did not rejected it but we think that those people live on their own lands and Russia must help them on this Serbian soil.


Michael Thomas : Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU.

Exactly ! Especially now that we know that inside the EU there are 3 castes and Serbia will never rise higher that the lowest one where Romania and Bulgaria have settled.

rote

pre 8 godina

When you get ready to wedding and bad news is coming about the girl you have to think twice. First you learn that the breasts and the nose are artificial. Then someone tells you that she already have children and finally you hear that she is sick … All these should make ask yourself if she is still so good for you. Nothing of the kind is happening to Serbia and it behaves as it was 10 years ago. No increasing refugees tsunami no economic problems of EU no Greek problems no British referendum and nothing else can stop the Serbian elites from the path ! Maybe some prepayments were already made and the money is already spent? What is the need of the permanent early elections ? Why not arrange a referendum instead? We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership. As if we have a consensus over the issue ... Also I think that most Serbians do not have problems in their choice between the west and the east.

rote

pre 8 godina

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

(LK, 9 February 2016 18:01)


we both know that crna gora is a corridor to mother russia so serbs and russians are as one here ... thus when i say "we" i mean us - the srbs and the russkie ! feel free to ask more !

Paul

pre 8 godina

Pakistan is to India what Kosovo is to Serbia. It is hard to imagine anything more foolish than citing friendship with one of the most squalid and dangerous Muslim countries in central Asia. When Pakistan is as civilized as Kosovo is now, Afghanistan and India will be safer places from it. And we know how bad Kosovo is now.

This guy is proving to be a real fool. Will elections flush him out?

LK

pre 8 godina

We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership.
(rote, 9 February 2016 08:53)

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

to be fair

pre 8 godina

@icj
yes indeed the balkan peninsula is one of the most sought after regions for numerous reasons. growing conditions are among europe's best. it is at the intersection of europe and eurasia - all land trade goes through balkans.
now serbia specifically isn't as interesting. neither is any one particular state in the balkans. the key is for outside forces to have easy access to allow their traded goods to pass without having to pay the toll.
there's a reason why the colonials had to go elsewhere to feed and enrich their own. northern-rich europe does not have the means to feed their people without importing it, and haven't for a number of generations. having full control of the trade route makes it cheaper and thus creates more profit for those that would wish to control the balkans.
all it takes is just 1 path. serbia has negotiated itself out of that path for the time being. but can europe trust the plan b path that it has had to go? so, yes lets control everything and we'll have seem-less smooth enterprise.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Yugoslavia flourished under Tito... We were not East or west, we were yugoslavia...

We will not head east or west... We will not be torn between the two... We are now Serbia, we were yugoslavia and we will once again become Yugoslavia, we never choose sides, this is what made us unique, strong and an international player...

It is East and west which comes to Serbia and I say let them come, we will not go to them, we are the mediators for them and we are who we are, we are neither East or west...

Our slavic bloodline leads us East and we will not forget our slavic brothers and sisters, and our economy leads us west and we will take our market share in the west... Yugoslavia done so well because Tito used the East west paradigm to his advantage, he created a prosperous Yugoslavia by playing brilliant politics, he did not choose East or west, they choose both choose him, they chose Yugoslavia....!

Nothing has changed and it will not change for the forseable future... Let them come to Serbia, let them do business with us, let us rebuild the former yugoslav republics using ingenious methods and a geopolitical strategy, we benefited once before from the east west paradigm, so why not do it again... We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world, we should not waste this perfect opportunity, we should harness its power...!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Torn between good and evil, torn between God and the Devil! Satans illusion of happieness, the Devils temptations! Of all nations Serbia in the cradle of the Balkans in the eyes of God and also the Devil! Drom the womb of one Mother why does one brother follow God and the other follow the Devil? Our Serbian History, does any one Serbian living today still remember it? Why are we born only to die in darkness? The East in our hearts and the West is where we want to be, but we Serbian people need to make the choice very soon because this time and era it really is the cross roads of our eternity! Yes we Serbian people can turn to the West and turn our backs to the East, some will live but Serbia will for sure die, our Slava and our faith only distant memories of the ages! The ones who live will eat with a silver spoon but that food will be contaminated with the curses of all our Fathers who look down upon us from the Heavens! The time has come, Satan is asking that we Serbian people turn our Backs to our true loving Mother Russia and to spit on our faith and our most sacred Slava! If we do follow the USA, England and Germany then what will it mean for the typical and ordinary Serbian? What reward waits for Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity if we turn our backs to God? Why do Eastern Orthodox Christians face East when they pray, is it because the Sun rises before us or is it because we face the sacred eternal rays of hope that only can be delivered by Holy Divinity?

svabo

pre 8 godina

Serbia has "the East in its heart," "wants to live like the West."


Could have had it all but nationalistic fuks from the stoneage ruined all, and no serbian bighead will admit that ever, and that's why history will repeat it self again and again and again.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

icj1

pre 8 godina

We are a country which is very sought after, maybe the most sought after country in the world
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 February 2016 15:59)

Yes, dear you are God's chosen and the world revolves around Serbia! I hope this makes you have a better sleep tonight. If not, let me know and I can provide you with another dose of the above to feed you megalomania :)

rote

pre 8 godina

When you get ready to wedding and bad news is coming about the girl you have to think twice. First you learn that the breasts and the nose are artificial. Then someone tells you that she already have children and finally you hear that she is sick … All these should make ask yourself if she is still so good for you. Nothing of the kind is happening to Serbia and it behaves as it was 10 years ago. No increasing refugees tsunami no economic problems of EU no Greek problems no British referendum and nothing else can stop the Serbian elites from the path ! Maybe some prepayments were already made and the money is already spent? What is the need of the permanent early elections ? Why not arrange a referendum instead? We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership. As if we have a consensus over the issue ... Also I think that most Serbians do not have problems in their choice between the west and the east.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.
(Moderate Serb, 9 February 2016 08:11)
==============================
Thank you Dr. Freud.
Moderate Serb, sorry, extremely anti Serb, maybe you are the one who is dysfunctional. You see, a mentally sick person always thinks that the other guy is sick not him.

rote

pre 8 godina

Moderate Serb : Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

In my country people like you are called “конченный пидараз” ! But you are a silly pidaraz because you still think that there’s something you can do to spoil the Russian-Serbian relations. At least we all remember the context when desperate people in Kosovo asked for citizenship. Russia did not rejected it but we think that those people live on their own lands and Russia must help them on this Serbian soil.


Michael Thomas : Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU.

Exactly ! Especially now that we know that inside the EU there are 3 castes and Serbia will never rise higher that the lowest one where Romania and Bulgaria have settled.

Bob

pre 8 godina

This man spends his time looking for friends and family.

I think he has emotional problems and doesn't feel wanted.

People who go around with this kind of insecurity give me the creeps.

He might be more useful if he got on with some real work developing the country instead of forever talking about who his brothers are and who his friends are.

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as he is.

Michael Thomas

pre 8 godina

Talk about East or West misses the main point, which is that Serbia should always act in the best interests of the people of Serbia. This may mean changing some laws and internal procedures to help trade with the EU, China, Africa, or any other important trading partner. Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners. I don't think that is the wisest action. Serbia should be close to the EU but not part of the EU. Norway, Iceland, Switzerland and Turkey all trade with the EU but are not part of it. Outside of the EU Serbia has some hope for economic development, as part of the EU it will wilt and die like other East European countries.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

Serbia as part of the EU will wilt and die like other East European countries.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Michael,
I have news for you, Serbia wilted and died long ago. It is obvious you do not live in Serbia.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

I hope Serbia isn't as hung up as Nikolic is.
(Bob, 8 February 2016 17:36)

Bob,
I'm sorry to say that many Serbs are even more disturbed than Nikolic. One need only read the drivel of the many Serb "patriots" here on B92 forums to see how dysfunctional Serbia is.

LK

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Furthermore, Putin slammed the door on the Serbs, telling them they would not be welcome to become Russian citizens.

LK

pre 8 godina

For all the talk about Serbia being torn between east and west, your emigrants are not torn at all. They all prefer western countries like Germany, Austria, Sweden, Canada, US, Australia. Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better.

LK

pre 8 godina

We want Milo arrange a referendum on NATO and we behave the same when it comes to Serbia's EU membership.
(rote, 9 February 2016 08:53)

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

Paul

pre 8 godina

Pakistan is to India what Kosovo is to Serbia. It is hard to imagine anything more foolish than citing friendship with one of the most squalid and dangerous Muslim countries in central Asia. When Pakistan is as civilized as Kosovo is now, Afghanistan and India will be safer places from it. And we know how bad Kosovo is now.

This guy is proving to be a real fool. Will elections flush him out?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Very few Serbs have chosen Russia or an eastern country to live in because idealism and past history doesn't feed your family or make your life better."
(LK, 8 February 2016 18:29)

Yes, very few. For example Mira Markovic and her honorable son - but not even them went there because of idealism, only to escape Serbian justice, protected by Putin.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Joining the EU means slamming the door in the faces of all other trading partners.
(Michael Thomas, 8 February 2016 21:36)

Not true at all. Every EU country trades with non-EU states. Germany's top 5 trading partners include the US and China with Russia not far behind.
(LK, 8 February 2016 22:25)

Unfortunately that does not match the myths in the head of our dear friend Michael Thomas!

rote

pre 8 godina

Who is we? Russia? How about letting Serbia and others in the region make their own decisions? Russia is not Serbia's master.

(LK, 9 February 2016 18:01)


we both know that crna gora is a corridor to mother russia so serbs and russians are as one here ... thus when i say "we" i mean us - the srbs and the russkie ! feel free to ask more !

to be fair

pre 8 godina

@icj
yes indeed the balkan peninsula is one of the most sought after regions for numerous reasons. growing conditions are among europe's best. it is at the intersection of europe and eurasia - all land trade goes through balkans.
now serbia specifically isn't as interesting. neither is any one particular state in the balkans. the key is for outside forces to have easy access to allow their traded goods to pass without having to pay the toll.
there's a reason why the colonials had to go elsewhere to feed and enrich their own. northern-rich europe does not have the means to feed their people without importing it, and haven't for a number of generations. having full control of the trade route makes it cheaper and thus creates more profit for those that would wish to control the balkans.
all it takes is just 1 path. serbia has negotiated itself out of that path for the time being. but can europe trust the plan b path that it has had to go? so, yes lets control everything and we'll have seem-less smooth enterprise.