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FDI strategy of Serbia and Croatia "simple, and sad"

How to be competitive and attract foreign investment? In Serbia, the answer is simple and sad - cheap labor, Germany's state-run Deutsche Welle is reporting.

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Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them from Adrian from Bucharest?

Mr. Adrian Sir

The Balkans for the past hundred or so years give or take with heavy chains upon all humanity! All of us from and in the Balkans are labeled and discriminated by the Arayan race! Who in the Balkans is really better off or who is worse off and in my opinion I most humbly tell you we are all in the same bad situation! No matter that we are of Islamic faith, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Christians or no matter what else we believe in, the Arayan race does not believe in us! The Balkans a region of humanity that has suffered very cruel and unusual punishment for over one hundred years now by the Arayan race! USA, England and Germany pull all the strings, we only puppets for their demonic and sick fantasy! The Balkans in reality a humanity with much good and positive history and culture that need not be in the situation of darkness that has tortured our people for so long a time! The Balkans will never be with Liberty and Peace as long as the USA, England and Germany control our destiny! I know Romainian people work with dignity and honor, I am a witness to that! How will we all in the Balkans ever remove the heavy chains of this evil hatred from the Arayan race? Boze Pravde!!!

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Draljiub

Romania gave to Moldova in january big money why West not help Moldova ?

Now Romania is international monetary found for Moldova because set up conditions

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them

icj1

pre 8 godina

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

If appears your reading and comprehension abilities are getting worse every day... "half" is not the same thing as "500"!!! lol

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Andrian the Romanian,
I have family living in Croatia and not many people have a pension more than 400 Euros ,unless he/she was in a high position, with a high income .That is the truth!

Dushan

pre 8 godina

Serbian Macedonian Montenegro christian orthodox churches should approach Vatican to sponsor a unification of those micro states of very similar peple language and culture divided by nonsense autonomus national state run churches which proffess nothing but hatred and fascism towards any other group i.e. state antion or religion. in my humble opinion should it not be done next 10 years there will be a new big war where those countries will disappear and be absorbed by Albania Croatia Greece Bulgaria Hungary which do cooperate culturaly with west and have sustainable economies.

Jugoslavia

pre 8 godina

@adrian Bucharest

Your economic statistics are correct, in fact , to add, Greek average wages are not much above 1000 Euros if not less and pensions are going to drop even more with the deal by Tsipras.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

for Sasa part 2

If you want i can tell you how much are the pensions in all Balkanic countries and how much are the average salaries , me own statistics are better than wikipedia . I give you an example they say in B92 that in Bosnia and Macedonia is more big salary than in Serbia ...... that is someting imposible . Not that i love Serbia but Macedonia and Bosnia are totaly under Serbia .

The real average salary in Serbia is 400 euro and average pension 300 euro

The real average salary in Bosnia and Macedonia is 250 euro and average pension under 200 euro .

The real average salary in Romania is 500 euro and average pension 350 euro

The real average salary in Croatia is 700 euro and average pension 700 euro

In future in Romania if gdp grpw up most fast they won`t be anymore able to keep the things LOW pay will get bigger

QUESTION for all people from Yugoslavia when ever MACEDONIA OR BOSNIA will compare with Serbia as level of life ? LET`S BE REALISTIC

or how you can compare SKOPJE with BELGRADE attention SKOPJE only how sound SKOPJE

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

Where did YOU get it? He said 1/2 a million.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Sasa is impossible in Croatia pensions only 350-400 euro

If they had only 350-400 they won`t survived having so big prices

I wonder till when in Romania the things will be small if the gdp grow up most fast from Entire Europe !

Croatia is advanced in me opinion

I think Bulgaria is more bad than Serbia and Romania

As for Albania they always were most poor

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: No more "do tell" lies and untruths

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, a Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help a
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany? Obviously a lie as there are only between 300-400 thousands Serbs in present day Germany which makes the rest of your post incredulous and laughable.

Austrian King Leopold Leopold I offered the Serbs refuge in the recently regained lands of southern Hungary and promised religious freedom and the right to elect officials. Relations between the Austrians and Serbs were excellent. This changed as the Austro-Hungarian empire started to see the South Slavic movement as a threat. This accelerated after the two Balkans wars where the Serbs were denied access to the sea and ordered to withdraw from Durres. The Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks fought against the Ottoman Turks and Albanians only to see a criminal Albanian state created in 1913 led by Austro-Hungary.

Croatia was pushing for Slavic autonomous states within the Austro-Hungarian empire which was rebuked by the annexing of Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1908. Franz Ferdinand wanted to obliterate Serbia and was given the opportunity with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand led by a APIS and the Black Hand in 1914.

LK

pre 8 godina

"We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 28 January 2016 20:39)

Chicago is the 2nd largest Serb populated city in the world behind Belgrade. Serbs aren't discriminated against in America, unless they're black or Hispanic Serbs and I don't think those exist. The truth is Serbs are white Christians and have privileges in America that many other ethnicities and religions like African-Americans, Hispanics(Spanish speaking), Muslims, and Asians don't have.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Adrian from Romania,
That is bull that Croatia pensions are 700 Euros ,try around figures 350-400 Euro!
I constantly travel to Rijeka and Pula .

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

"Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand." ???

Yea all the help Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans got from the Arayan race? Eastern Orthodox Christians for many centuries holding back the whole Ottoman Empire, Serbia the final shield that kept Austria and Germany pure Arayan race! Our Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Blood and Tears kept your Arayan race pure and what thanks did we get for all the centuries of being your protectors? What a bunch of dirty cowards the Arayan race, your time is up now, no more pure race, you will now taste the bitter death of your demonic race! Now Germany and Austria soiled for ever, you will never ever be able to clean your white Arayan race, for ever together! So now this is how we pay you back Hitler for all that you have done for our Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox race! God Bless our current Serbian Cival Leaders and keep the poor and innocent Islamic refugees comming, I pray that these poor displaced human beings from the Middle East and Africa find a ever lasting peace and economic advancement in Germany and Austria!!!

dotell

pre 8 godina

Mikey, why would cojntries with better living standards want to ally with Russia or Serbia. Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, any of your relatives among them by any chance. Slovenes and Croats working in Austria and Germany is not that odd, since before yugo these two were part of the germanic world for hundreds of years. Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand. It is funny how much you hate the west when brits and french who started EU to milk what was left of Germany were the ones who gave you treaty of london. It is a well known fact that according to Lloyd George and Churchill only serbs, bulgarians and greeks were real nations at the Balkans, yet evil west somehow always out to get the holy serbs.

factman

pre 8 godina

You gotta start somewhere!

Nothing wrong with providing cheaper labor.

Sooner or later you graduate from that and move forward to bigger things.

Just need good leaders to drive it forward across generations

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

but how is that Croatia is cheap labour they have salaries of 700 euro , old people pensions of 700 euro , i would say Croatia is developed but it high big unemployment and very expensive prices .

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

To Mr. Bob Sir:
I invite you to purchase a shirt and have " I am Serbian " printed on it and then I challange you to put it on and wear it any where in the USA, England and Germany! So you understand Serbian people who wear the Serbian skin? We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!

Also a note to Adrien: I know for sure and have witnessed Romanian working people, they are among the most honorable working people and they deserve much much more than what Germany or the Arayan race will ever compansate them for their work. I have to use the example of the situation in Romania regarding the German sweat factories and pray that your people like mine one day remove the heavy chains that have been placed by evil men upon our shoulders!

Sloboda i Mir!!!

MikeD

pre 8 godina

Said it before, will say it again... We need a Eastern European Union (EEU). At least economically. All former Yugoslav countries have smart people and can work together to build a strong and sustainable economy. When Germany is overrun by unskilled migrants and they need workers, let them look elsewhere. Time for the Balkans to step up for once.

Andrew

pre 8 godina

Unfortunately, the domestic job market in Serbia creates the conditions for foreign companies to exploit cheap labor. Many private sector jobs require 6 day work weeks, illegally, so the employer does not have to pay taxes and often for around 2-300 euros a month. That is if they even get paid on time or at all. So it is no surprise that when a foreign company offers a slightly better salary with benefits and the security of knowing that you will be paid on time, people will gladly take the job. The will of Serbian people has been crushed after so many years of war, economic hardship and endless political games and nobody wants to organize a true labour movement. The sad reality is, if you don't want to work 80 hours a week for 200 euros a month, there are 100 other desperate Serbs waiting in line for your job.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

The gouvern pay good salaries , private pay low , teacher in highschol 900 euro minimum salary , a nurse at begin without experience minimum 500 euro per month here in this website is wrote the minimum pay for all public jobs http://www.stiripesurse.ro/a-aparut-noua-grila-de-salarizare-cat-vor-castiga-profesorii-medicii-func-ionarii-i-al-ii_979455.html

a nurse from a big hospital take minimum 600 euro

Capitalist private pay few , public jobs gouvern pay good

a highschool teacher with 40 years experience take minimum 1100 euro

Btw this will be aplied from 1 june 2016

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic exactly. Serbia can can live in your mother Russia's big cold basement Siberia easily with room to expand. Heck you can be their perpetual problem with Serb delusions and craziness. In no time you two deformed double headed turkeys can be at each others throats.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Dragolub

You speak nonsense. Racist and bigoted nonsense.

The racial stereotyping and generalisations with which you happily condemn decent people across Europe are disgusting.

Grow up.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

Their is nothing wrong with cheap labour,look at West Germany,south Korea and Japan in the 1950's ,1960's and 1970's.They where cheap labour for USA,and Britian, etc.Look at them now.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The Balkans always considered trash by the German and English Arayan race! If any one out there disagree's with me then read history, the history of what was said about the Balkans before World War Two. England confused with do we call it SerVia for villion or do we call it SerBia for barbarians! Germany itching to murder Serbia pushes Austria into proclaiming World War One! If any one out there wants to see what is in the plan for the whole Balkans just go visit Romania and check out all the industrial sweat factories Germany has set up. Go and ask the average and typical Romanian how good his life is with all them German sweat shops? The Arayan race will never allow liberty and peace for any body in the Balkans, that is a fact! Even Croatia who did so much for Hitler is only toilet paper for the Arayan race! so with all this EU illusion does any body really think that the Balkans will survive in liberty and peace while all the blood is being sucked out of all humanity there? The bottom line is that at least Serbian people really don't need to suffer this humiliating slow and painfull death, Serbia has the option to become saved, liberated and to live in peace! For Serbia the only chance for survival is through Mother Russia! The Great Eastern World Empire not a dream any more but pure reality! Why does Serbia waste precious time entertaining a illusion when it can with Mother Russia begin living a normal life?

Bob

pre 8 godina

What is needed is economic development. If an economy is run in order just to function it is not good for a country.

There are two big economic drags on a country: state level activity (much of which is needed) and corruption (bent politicians, mafias and invented job security - none of which are needed).

I don't like the term cheap labour to be used in this context. If labour is seen as being a resource for generating growth, then it is not a negative. It is rather a lever for future improvement. Infrastructure, management, skills, etc can be enhanced and new business contracts developed.

If labour is merely being used exploitatively, then that is truly 'cheap, labour. That (hopefully) is not what is happening here however.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The Balkans always considered trash by the German and English Arayan race! If any one out there disagree's with me then read history, the history of what was said about the Balkans before World War Two. England confused with do we call it SerVia for villion or do we call it SerBia for barbarians! Germany itching to murder Serbia pushes Austria into proclaiming World War One! If any one out there wants to see what is in the plan for the whole Balkans just go visit Romania and check out all the industrial sweat factories Germany has set up. Go and ask the average and typical Romanian how good his life is with all them German sweat shops? The Arayan race will never allow liberty and peace for any body in the Balkans, that is a fact! Even Croatia who did so much for Hitler is only toilet paper for the Arayan race! so with all this EU illusion does any body really think that the Balkans will survive in liberty and peace while all the blood is being sucked out of all humanity there? The bottom line is that at least Serbian people really don't need to suffer this humiliating slow and painfull death, Serbia has the option to become saved, liberated and to live in peace! For Serbia the only chance for survival is through Mother Russia! The Great Eastern World Empire not a dream any more but pure reality! Why does Serbia waste precious time entertaining a illusion when it can with Mother Russia begin living a normal life?

MikeD

pre 8 godina

Said it before, will say it again... We need a Eastern European Union (EEU). At least economically. All former Yugoslav countries have smart people and can work together to build a strong and sustainable economy. When Germany is overrun by unskilled migrants and they need workers, let them look elsewhere. Time for the Balkans to step up for once.

Bob

pre 8 godina

What is needed is economic development. If an economy is run in order just to function it is not good for a country.

There are two big economic drags on a country: state level activity (much of which is needed) and corruption (bent politicians, mafias and invented job security - none of which are needed).

I don't like the term cheap labour to be used in this context. If labour is seen as being a resource for generating growth, then it is not a negative. It is rather a lever for future improvement. Infrastructure, management, skills, etc can be enhanced and new business contracts developed.

If labour is merely being used exploitatively, then that is truly 'cheap, labour. That (hopefully) is not what is happening here however.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Dragolub

You speak nonsense. Racist and bigoted nonsense.

The racial stereotyping and generalisations with which you happily condemn decent people across Europe are disgusting.

Grow up.

Andrew

pre 8 godina

Unfortunately, the domestic job market in Serbia creates the conditions for foreign companies to exploit cheap labor. Many private sector jobs require 6 day work weeks, illegally, so the employer does not have to pay taxes and often for around 2-300 euros a month. That is if they even get paid on time or at all. So it is no surprise that when a foreign company offers a slightly better salary with benefits and the security of knowing that you will be paid on time, people will gladly take the job. The will of Serbian people has been crushed after so many years of war, economic hardship and endless political games and nobody wants to organize a true labour movement. The sad reality is, if you don't want to work 80 hours a week for 200 euros a month, there are 100 other desperate Serbs waiting in line for your job.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

Their is nothing wrong with cheap labour,look at West Germany,south Korea and Japan in the 1950's ,1960's and 1970's.They where cheap labour for USA,and Britian, etc.Look at them now.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

To Mr. Bob Sir:
I invite you to purchase a shirt and have " I am Serbian " printed on it and then I challange you to put it on and wear it any where in the USA, England and Germany! So you understand Serbian people who wear the Serbian skin? We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!

Also a note to Adrien: I know for sure and have witnessed Romanian working people, they are among the most honorable working people and they deserve much much more than what Germany or the Arayan race will ever compansate them for their work. I have to use the example of the situation in Romania regarding the German sweat factories and pray that your people like mine one day remove the heavy chains that have been placed by evil men upon our shoulders!

Sloboda i Mir!!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

"Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand." ???

Yea all the help Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans got from the Arayan race? Eastern Orthodox Christians for many centuries holding back the whole Ottoman Empire, Serbia the final shield that kept Austria and Germany pure Arayan race! Our Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Blood and Tears kept your Arayan race pure and what thanks did we get for all the centuries of being your protectors? What a bunch of dirty cowards the Arayan race, your time is up now, no more pure race, you will now taste the bitter death of your demonic race! Now Germany and Austria soiled for ever, you will never ever be able to clean your white Arayan race, for ever together! So now this is how we pay you back Hitler for all that you have done for our Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox race! God Bless our current Serbian Cival Leaders and keep the poor and innocent Islamic refugees comming, I pray that these poor displaced human beings from the Middle East and Africa find a ever lasting peace and economic advancement in Germany and Austria!!!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: No more "do tell" lies and untruths

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, a Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help a
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany? Obviously a lie as there are only between 300-400 thousands Serbs in present day Germany which makes the rest of your post incredulous and laughable.

Austrian King Leopold Leopold I offered the Serbs refuge in the recently regained lands of southern Hungary and promised religious freedom and the right to elect officials. Relations between the Austrians and Serbs were excellent. This changed as the Austro-Hungarian empire started to see the South Slavic movement as a threat. This accelerated after the two Balkans wars where the Serbs were denied access to the sea and ordered to withdraw from Durres. The Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks fought against the Ottoman Turks and Albanians only to see a criminal Albanian state created in 1913 led by Austro-Hungary.

Croatia was pushing for Slavic autonomous states within the Austro-Hungarian empire which was rebuked by the annexing of Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1908. Franz Ferdinand wanted to obliterate Serbia and was given the opportunity with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand led by a APIS and the Black Hand in 1914.

LK

pre 8 godina

"We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 28 January 2016 20:39)

Chicago is the 2nd largest Serb populated city in the world behind Belgrade. Serbs aren't discriminated against in America, unless they're black or Hispanic Serbs and I don't think those exist. The truth is Serbs are white Christians and have privileges in America that many other ethnicities and religions like African-Americans, Hispanics(Spanish speaking), Muslims, and Asians don't have.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic exactly. Serbia can can live in your mother Russia's big cold basement Siberia easily with room to expand. Heck you can be their perpetual problem with Serb delusions and craziness. In no time you two deformed double headed turkeys can be at each others throats.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

Where did YOU get it? He said 1/2 a million.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

for Sasa part 2

If you want i can tell you how much are the pensions in all Balkanic countries and how much are the average salaries , me own statistics are better than wikipedia . I give you an example they say in B92 that in Bosnia and Macedonia is more big salary than in Serbia ...... that is someting imposible . Not that i love Serbia but Macedonia and Bosnia are totaly under Serbia .

The real average salary in Serbia is 400 euro and average pension 300 euro

The real average salary in Bosnia and Macedonia is 250 euro and average pension under 200 euro .

The real average salary in Romania is 500 euro and average pension 350 euro

The real average salary in Croatia is 700 euro and average pension 700 euro

In future in Romania if gdp grpw up most fast they won`t be anymore able to keep the things LOW pay will get bigger

QUESTION for all people from Yugoslavia when ever MACEDONIA OR BOSNIA will compare with Serbia as level of life ? LET`S BE REALISTIC

or how you can compare SKOPJE with BELGRADE attention SKOPJE only how sound SKOPJE

icj1

pre 8 godina

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

If appears your reading and comprehension abilities are getting worse every day... "half" is not the same thing as "500"!!! lol

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Adrian from Romania,
That is bull that Croatia pensions are 700 Euros ,try around figures 350-400 Euro!
I constantly travel to Rijeka and Pula .

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Andrian the Romanian,
I have family living in Croatia and not many people have a pension more than 400 Euros ,unless he/she was in a high position, with a high income .That is the truth!

factman

pre 8 godina

You gotta start somewhere!

Nothing wrong with providing cheaper labor.

Sooner or later you graduate from that and move forward to bigger things.

Just need good leaders to drive it forward across generations

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

but how is that Croatia is cheap labour they have salaries of 700 euro , old people pensions of 700 euro , i would say Croatia is developed but it high big unemployment and very expensive prices .

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Sasa is impossible in Croatia pensions only 350-400 euro

If they had only 350-400 they won`t survived having so big prices

I wonder till when in Romania the things will be small if the gdp grow up most fast from Entire Europe !

Croatia is advanced in me opinion

I think Bulgaria is more bad than Serbia and Romania

As for Albania they always were most poor

Jugoslavia

pre 8 godina

@adrian Bucharest

Your economic statistics are correct, in fact , to add, Greek average wages are not much above 1000 Euros if not less and pensions are going to drop even more with the deal by Tsipras.

Dushan

pre 8 godina

Serbian Macedonian Montenegro christian orthodox churches should approach Vatican to sponsor a unification of those micro states of very similar peple language and culture divided by nonsense autonomus national state run churches which proffess nothing but hatred and fascism towards any other group i.e. state antion or religion. in my humble opinion should it not be done next 10 years there will be a new big war where those countries will disappear and be absorbed by Albania Croatia Greece Bulgaria Hungary which do cooperate culturaly with west and have sustainable economies.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Draljiub

Romania gave to Moldova in january big money why West not help Moldova ?

Now Romania is international monetary found for Moldova because set up conditions

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

The gouvern pay good salaries , private pay low , teacher in highschol 900 euro minimum salary , a nurse at begin without experience minimum 500 euro per month here in this website is wrote the minimum pay for all public jobs http://www.stiripesurse.ro/a-aparut-noua-grila-de-salarizare-cat-vor-castiga-profesorii-medicii-func-ionarii-i-al-ii_979455.html

a nurse from a big hospital take minimum 600 euro

Capitalist private pay few , public jobs gouvern pay good

a highschool teacher with 40 years experience take minimum 1100 euro

Btw this will be aplied from 1 june 2016

dotell

pre 8 godina

Mikey, why would cojntries with better living standards want to ally with Russia or Serbia. Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, any of your relatives among them by any chance. Slovenes and Croats working in Austria and Germany is not that odd, since before yugo these two were part of the germanic world for hundreds of years. Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand. It is funny how much you hate the west when brits and french who started EU to milk what was left of Germany were the ones who gave you treaty of london. It is a well known fact that according to Lloyd George and Churchill only serbs, bulgarians and greeks were real nations at the Balkans, yet evil west somehow always out to get the holy serbs.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them from Adrian from Bucharest?

Mr. Adrian Sir

The Balkans for the past hundred or so years give or take with heavy chains upon all humanity! All of us from and in the Balkans are labeled and discriminated by the Arayan race! Who in the Balkans is really better off or who is worse off and in my opinion I most humbly tell you we are all in the same bad situation! No matter that we are of Islamic faith, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Christians or no matter what else we believe in, the Arayan race does not believe in us! The Balkans a region of humanity that has suffered very cruel and unusual punishment for over one hundred years now by the Arayan race! USA, England and Germany pull all the strings, we only puppets for their demonic and sick fantasy! The Balkans in reality a humanity with much good and positive history and culture that need not be in the situation of darkness that has tortured our people for so long a time! The Balkans will never be with Liberty and Peace as long as the USA, England and Germany control our destiny! I know Romainian people work with dignity and honor, I am a witness to that! How will we all in the Balkans ever remove the heavy chains of this evil hatred from the Arayan race? Boze Pravde!!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The Balkans always considered trash by the German and English Arayan race! If any one out there disagree's with me then read history, the history of what was said about the Balkans before World War Two. England confused with do we call it SerVia for villion or do we call it SerBia for barbarians! Germany itching to murder Serbia pushes Austria into proclaiming World War One! If any one out there wants to see what is in the plan for the whole Balkans just go visit Romania and check out all the industrial sweat factories Germany has set up. Go and ask the average and typical Romanian how good his life is with all them German sweat shops? The Arayan race will never allow liberty and peace for any body in the Balkans, that is a fact! Even Croatia who did so much for Hitler is only toilet paper for the Arayan race! so with all this EU illusion does any body really think that the Balkans will survive in liberty and peace while all the blood is being sucked out of all humanity there? The bottom line is that at least Serbian people really don't need to suffer this humiliating slow and painfull death, Serbia has the option to become saved, liberated and to live in peace! For Serbia the only chance for survival is through Mother Russia! The Great Eastern World Empire not a dream any more but pure reality! Why does Serbia waste precious time entertaining a illusion when it can with Mother Russia begin living a normal life?

Bob

pre 8 godina

Dragolub

You speak nonsense. Racist and bigoted nonsense.

The racial stereotyping and generalisations with which you happily condemn decent people across Europe are disgusting.

Grow up.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

To Mr. Bob Sir:
I invite you to purchase a shirt and have " I am Serbian " printed on it and then I challange you to put it on and wear it any where in the USA, England and Germany! So you understand Serbian people who wear the Serbian skin? We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!

Also a note to Adrien: I know for sure and have witnessed Romanian working people, they are among the most honorable working people and they deserve much much more than what Germany or the Arayan race will ever compansate them for their work. I have to use the example of the situation in Romania regarding the German sweat factories and pray that your people like mine one day remove the heavy chains that have been placed by evil men upon our shoulders!

Sloboda i Mir!!!

Lenard

pre 8 godina

Dragoljub Djurkovic exactly. Serbia can can live in your mother Russia's big cold basement Siberia easily with room to expand. Heck you can be their perpetual problem with Serb delusions and craziness. In no time you two deformed double headed turkeys can be at each others throats.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

"Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand." ???

Yea all the help Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans got from the Arayan race? Eastern Orthodox Christians for many centuries holding back the whole Ottoman Empire, Serbia the final shield that kept Austria and Germany pure Arayan race! Our Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Blood and Tears kept your Arayan race pure and what thanks did we get for all the centuries of being your protectors? What a bunch of dirty cowards the Arayan race, your time is up now, no more pure race, you will now taste the bitter death of your demonic race! Now Germany and Austria soiled for ever, you will never ever be able to clean your white Arayan race, for ever together! So now this is how we pay you back Hitler for all that you have done for our Slavic Christian Eastern Orthodox race! God Bless our current Serbian Cival Leaders and keep the poor and innocent Islamic refugees comming, I pray that these poor displaced human beings from the Middle East and Africa find a ever lasting peace and economic advancement in Germany and Austria!!!

dotell

pre 8 godina

Mikey, why would cojntries with better living standards want to ally with Russia or Serbia. Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, any of your relatives among them by any chance. Slovenes and Croats working in Austria and Germany is not that odd, since before yugo these two were part of the germanic world for hundreds of years. Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help against ottomans and later bulgarians in 1885 by shooting Franz Ferdinand. It is funny how much you hate the west when brits and french who started EU to milk what was left of Germany were the ones who gave you treaty of london. It is a well known fact that according to Lloyd George and Churchill only serbs, bulgarians and greeks were real nations at the Balkans, yet evil west somehow always out to get the holy serbs.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

The gouvern pay good salaries , private pay low , teacher in highschol 900 euro minimum salary , a nurse at begin without experience minimum 500 euro per month here in this website is wrote the minimum pay for all public jobs http://www.stiripesurse.ro/a-aparut-noua-grila-de-salarizare-cat-vor-castiga-profesorii-medicii-func-ionarii-i-al-ii_979455.html

a nurse from a big hospital take minimum 600 euro

Capitalist private pay few , public jobs gouvern pay good

a highschool teacher with 40 years experience take minimum 1100 euro

Btw this will be aplied from 1 june 2016

MikeD

pre 8 godina

Said it before, will say it again... We need a Eastern European Union (EEU). At least economically. All former Yugoslav countries have smart people and can work together to build a strong and sustainable economy. When Germany is overrun by unskilled migrants and they need workers, let them look elsewhere. Time for the Balkans to step up for once.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Adrian from Romania,
That is bull that Croatia pensions are 700 Euros ,try around figures 350-400 Euro!
I constantly travel to Rijeka and Pula .

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RE: No more "do tell" lies and untruths

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare and sending it back home to Zemun, a Serbs thanked Habsburgs for all the help a
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany? Obviously a lie as there are only between 300-400 thousands Serbs in present day Germany which makes the rest of your post incredulous and laughable.

Austrian King Leopold Leopold I offered the Serbs refuge in the recently regained lands of southern Hungary and promised religious freedom and the right to elect officials. Relations between the Austrians and Serbs were excellent. This changed as the Austro-Hungarian empire started to see the South Slavic movement as a threat. This accelerated after the two Balkans wars where the Serbs were denied access to the sea and ordered to withdraw from Durres. The Serbs, Bulgarians and Greeks fought against the Ottoman Turks and Albanians only to see a criminal Albanian state created in 1913 led by Austro-Hungary.

Croatia was pushing for Slavic autonomous states within the Austro-Hungarian empire which was rebuked by the annexing of Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1908. Franz Ferdinand wanted to obliterate Serbia and was given the opportunity with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand led by a APIS and the Black Hand in 1914.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

for Sasa part 2

If you want i can tell you how much are the pensions in all Balkanic countries and how much are the average salaries , me own statistics are better than wikipedia . I give you an example they say in B92 that in Bosnia and Macedonia is more big salary than in Serbia ...... that is someting imposible . Not that i love Serbia but Macedonia and Bosnia are totaly under Serbia .

The real average salary in Serbia is 400 euro and average pension 300 euro

The real average salary in Bosnia and Macedonia is 250 euro and average pension under 200 euro .

The real average salary in Romania is 500 euro and average pension 350 euro

The real average salary in Croatia is 700 euro and average pension 700 euro

In future in Romania if gdp grpw up most fast they won`t be anymore able to keep the things LOW pay will get bigger

QUESTION for all people from Yugoslavia when ever MACEDONIA OR BOSNIA will compare with Serbia as level of life ? LET`S BE REALISTIC

or how you can compare SKOPJE with BELGRADE attention SKOPJE only how sound SKOPJE

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

but how is that Croatia is cheap labour they have salaries of 700 euro , old people pensions of 700 euro , i would say Croatia is developed but it high big unemployment and very expensive prices .

Dushan

pre 8 godina

Serbian Macedonian Montenegro christian orthodox churches should approach Vatican to sponsor a unification of those micro states of very similar peple language and culture divided by nonsense autonomus national state run churches which proffess nothing but hatred and fascism towards any other group i.e. state antion or religion. in my humble opinion should it not be done next 10 years there will be a new big war where those countries will disappear and be absorbed by Albania Croatia Greece Bulgaria Hungary which do cooperate culturaly with west and have sustainable economies.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Andrian the Romanian,
I have family living in Croatia and not many people have a pension more than 400 Euros ,unless he/she was in a high position, with a high income .That is the truth!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Germany already has half million unskilled serbs collecting welfare
(dotell, 29 January 2016 14:23)

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

If appears your reading and comprehension abilities are getting worse every day... "half" is not the same thing as "500"!!! lol

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

Their is nothing wrong with cheap labour,look at West Germany,south Korea and Japan in the 1950's ,1960's and 1970's.They where cheap labour for USA,and Britian, etc.Look at them now.

Andrew

pre 8 godina

Unfortunately, the domestic job market in Serbia creates the conditions for foreign companies to exploit cheap labor. Many private sector jobs require 6 day work weeks, illegally, so the employer does not have to pay taxes and often for around 2-300 euros a month. That is if they even get paid on time or at all. So it is no surprise that when a foreign company offers a slightly better salary with benefits and the security of knowing that you will be paid on time, people will gladly take the job. The will of Serbian people has been crushed after so many years of war, economic hardship and endless political games and nobody wants to organize a true labour movement. The sad reality is, if you don't want to work 80 hours a week for 200 euros a month, there are 100 other desperate Serbs waiting in line for your job.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Sasa is impossible in Croatia pensions only 350-400 euro

If they had only 350-400 they won`t survived having so big prices

I wonder till when in Romania the things will be small if the gdp grow up most fast from Entire Europe !

Croatia is advanced in me opinion

I think Bulgaria is more bad than Serbia and Romania

As for Albania they always were most poor

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them from Adrian from Bucharest?

Mr. Adrian Sir

The Balkans for the past hundred or so years give or take with heavy chains upon all humanity! All of us from and in the Balkans are labeled and discriminated by the Arayan race! Who in the Balkans is really better off or who is worse off and in my opinion I most humbly tell you we are all in the same bad situation! No matter that we are of Islamic faith, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox Christians or no matter what else we believe in, the Arayan race does not believe in us! The Balkans a region of humanity that has suffered very cruel and unusual punishment for over one hundred years now by the Arayan race! USA, England and Germany pull all the strings, we only puppets for their demonic and sick fantasy! The Balkans in reality a humanity with much good and positive history and culture that need not be in the situation of darkness that has tortured our people for so long a time! The Balkans will never be with Liberty and Peace as long as the USA, England and Germany control our destiny! I know Romainian people work with dignity and honor, I am a witness to that! How will we all in the Balkans ever remove the heavy chains of this evil hatred from the Arayan race? Boze Pravde!!!

Bob

pre 8 godina

What is needed is economic development. If an economy is run in order just to function it is not good for a country.

There are two big economic drags on a country: state level activity (much of which is needed) and corruption (bent politicians, mafias and invented job security - none of which are needed).

I don't like the term cheap labour to be used in this context. If labour is seen as being a resource for generating growth, then it is not a negative. It is rather a lever for future improvement. Infrastructure, management, skills, etc can be enhanced and new business contracts developed.

If labour is merely being used exploitatively, then that is truly 'cheap, labour. That (hopefully) is not what is happening here however.

LK

pre 8 godina

"We Serbian people are the ones who are labeled and discriminated by the USA, England and Germany! As a matter of fact all Eastern Orthodox Christian Slavic people are profoundly hated by the Arayan race! How do I know all this, well you will never understand because you will never wear our Serbian Christian Eastern Orthodox skin!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 28 January 2016 20:39)

Chicago is the 2nd largest Serb populated city in the world behind Belgrade. Serbs aren't discriminated against in America, unless they're black or Hispanic Serbs and I don't think those exist. The truth is Serbs are white Christians and have privileges in America that many other ethnicities and religions like African-Americans, Hispanics(Spanish speaking), Muslims, and Asians don't have.

Jugoslavia

pre 8 godina

@adrian Bucharest

Your economic statistics are correct, in fact , to add, Greek average wages are not much above 1000 Euros if not less and pensions are going to drop even more with the deal by Tsipras.

factman

pre 8 godina

You gotta start somewhere!

Nothing wrong with providing cheaper labor.

Sooner or later you graduate from that and move forward to bigger things.

Just need good leaders to drive it forward across generations

Danilo

pre 8 godina

Where do you get your outrageous number of 500 Mil unemployed in Germany?
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 22:09)

Where did YOU get it? He said 1/2 a million.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Draljiub

Romania gave to Moldova in january big money why West not help Moldova ?

Now Romania is international monetary found for Moldova because set up conditions

As for Greece and Croatia they were and are always superior to Romania in the matter of level of life

Not just they are superior you even cannot compare with them