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Thursday, 21.01.2016.

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"Time Belgrade reexamined participation in Kosovo talks"

Marko Djuric on Thursday described <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2016&mm=01&dd=21&nav_id=96775" class="text-link" target= "_blank">the guilty verdict handed down to Oliver Ivanovic</a> as "having nothing to do with either the law, or justice."

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icj1

pre 8 godina

it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.
(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28)

Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 15:35)

Of course, UNSCR 1244 reaffirms the commitment of all UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia - I did not say UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral with regard to Serbia. I said that I agree with Serbia's position http://www.kim.gov.rs/eng/v305.php that UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral in regards to KiM.

As for the map, of course it is consistent with UNSCR 1244 (otherwise it would be an illegal map) and, according to the UN, the map is not evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a territory or jurisdiction within Serbia's borders.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

"You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol"

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed. Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28) it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 04:25)

Of course, I support that other position of Serbia, too because I have always supported UNSCR 1244 and the Helsinki Final Act.

Great than, it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2016 07:38)

You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

observer:

My hero is anyone who advocates the peaceful coexistence of diverse people within the boundaries of Yugoslavia.

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observer

pre 8 godina

ICJ forget to even try to talk to people like Amnesty Yugoslavia, Ari Gold, Peggy, Gobart, etc. It is a wast of time. These people didn't learn a thing. Their heros are still the one's who brought death and destruction to the entire Balkan, they are unable to reflect on what happened, and are caught up in that horrable serb nationalist/fascist way of thinking. They personify the lost serb generation, who will only continue to pull that contry down even further. Rest assured, the entire free world has not forgotten what happened back than, and knows who is still responsible for these unspeakable atrocities. Serbia will not become a member of the EU before it faces its dark past and realizes what was done in its name. Germany did that, learned after WWII, and became a respected member of the world community, Serbia still has to make this step, before it can become a respected country again.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Mate, I asked you a very specific thing, i.e. "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" and you replied "Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border".

But the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations"

So, before we move on to your new piece of "evidence", i.e. UNSCR 1244, are we in agreement that the map you provided is not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders"?

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icj1

pre 8 godina

A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Ok, but I never said that KiM outside Serbia's borders is recognized by the UN (whatever that means)! I think you might be confusing me with a certain Vladimir Putin. It was him who said that UN bodies decided that Kosovo should become independent of Serbia, not me :)
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That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I never asked you for evidence of non-existence. I asked you for "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?". If KiM within Serbia's borders is non-existant, then you do have a point :)
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If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I'm not sure what those fairytales are or when you did see them in your dreams. However, I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.
(RighteousBilly, 26 January 2016 13:30)

Well, if somebody provides "evidence" that does not support their claims, I totally agree with you that there is no point to provide that "evidence" because I'll certainly point out that it is BS "evidence". But you are certainly free to accept any "evidence" that you are given without reading or checking it :)

As for your post that B92 allegedly did not publish, I really regret that B92 did not publish it because it looks like we missed the chance to have a good laugh lol

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 00:44) Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?
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The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever. Heck, KiM isn't even designated outside of Serbia's borders with an "unofficial" disclaimer. No trace of a KiM outside of Serbia's borders exists officially, or even unofficially, at the UN.

That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic. If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?
(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18)

Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 January 2016 16:12)

Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18) Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you. so I did try to contact the KiM ambassador in the UN ---- they do not exist.

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observer

pre 8 godina

sorry Gjon Marku, I made a mistake in my post from last night. It was not you who wrote this redicules warmongering post, but (rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14). My apologies. Love the Kosovo song you posted.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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Observer

pre 8 godina

Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)

Another potential serb mass murderer and past and furture war criminal. I guess they are everywhere. You can only fullfill your sick dreams if you are ready to kill at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus a few million more innocent people. Do you really believe the people in Kosovo will put up with serb domination, rape, killer brigades ever again. Do you really think the world is letting you do this? If you do, go and have your head examed, or better check into a luni bin, and that applies to anybody who believes in such crazy ideas.

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14)

At least you admit defeat, I give you that. Insult and post as many videos as you want. Fact is: You are giving out checks your ass can`t cash.

I forgot to mention that before the Russians where kicked out of Kosovo because they couldn`t pay electricity bill, Kosovars provided food aid to Russian troops because your government couldnt even make sure they had enough to eat. It was really heartbreaking, seeing Russian troops supposed to protect us from Serbian aggression, starving. I remember my cousin delivering bread, pork and soup to their checkpoint in Klina. I still feel bad for these young men, left alone in a foreign country. Oh btw, you are welcome for taking care of them. Like it or not but Albanian hospitality is famous - just like our pride and fighting spirit. Remember, we are the sons and daughters of Gjerg Kastrioti (Skenderbeu). You say Speznas, I say average Albanian.

Now relax and stop making comments about things you cannot influence. Check out this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8Iotgll8A

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rote kapelle

pre 8 godina

Observer : Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo


KIM is an internationally admitted territory of Serbia and it means more than the BS you dared to place here. Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzFt05IBOI



Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? ... We kicked you out

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)


МУДАК ТАКАЯ are the words that make me feel better when I see such idiotic comments. But we all know that the whole problem became possible because Russia afforded to be weak for a while. Yet even that weak Russia with Dindic minded Yeltsin at the helm tried to do something for our brothers. All because the Russians always feel response for Serbia now with the taste of our guilt. So you don’t have to tease us because Russians already feel shame and are eager to improve our mistakes. Then we shall see how long must be the sea shore for such a small people like the Croats. Something in between 50-100 km I think. Your friend Leopard taught placing videos so you can enjoy the wolves to come to the bays. These guys annually win the special forces competitions always leaving the Yankees behind and their name is Спецназ ГРУ - words to remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55ZgnxvRG4

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Serbian Goat Lover

pre 8 godina

You're too late, Gjuric the Kosovar side already announced they would stop talking. The only thing you can come up with is to copy the Kosovar side and announce that you will "reexamine"?? LOL.

And by the way, please check your family background. Out of all the Slavic people only the Serbs have the "DJ" sound, which comes straight from the Albanian "GJ" sound. A lot of you are a cross between Slavic and Albanian and you don't even know it :)

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01) But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
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Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming goat herders...
(Grobar1, 21 January 2016 18:33)

a message from potential mass murderers and past and future war criminals ....

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 23 January 2016 06:47)

Well, first of all, if you were intending to reply to some other post, and not mine, feel free to do so. That's exactly what I pointed out that you were referencing the wrong post.

Second, note that you referred to "jurisdiction" not "territory" in your "clarification" on 22 January 2016 11:23. It looks like you can't comprehend your own posts... lol

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 15:37) Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.

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observer

pre 8 godina

@ (rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

it was never yours to begin with. Only in the twisted interpretation of nationalist Serbs this was serb land. Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo hundreds of years ago. If other countries would act like that and demand that areas, or provinces, which once were part of their territory will always be their own, the world would be in constant war, well, mankind would have ceased to exist a long time ago, because everybody would be dead by now. Intresting to see that you also realize that only by another huge holocaust with the death of at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus Millons of other innocent people this sick serb / rote dream can be achieved, and you still want to do just that. Only a really sick person, a sick nation can actually want to do something like that. Rest ashure it won't happen. It would be WWIII if you ever attempt that. Nobody in the West would let you sickos get away with something like that.

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

We dont have to offer you anything because there is nothing you could do. Neither good nor bad. You are just irrelevant and with your constant warmongering, you only show what kind of a lowlife you are.

I mean. Come on. Bring it. Do something. Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? Nothing! Or what did you do to support serbia when Russia came to Kosovo with KFor? Nothing again! We kicked you out of the country because you couldnt pay the electricity bill! LOL

Truth is, no one is afraid of Russia and your contribution to this world is funny dashcam videos on Youtube.

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rote

pre 8 godina

Observer: Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing

What else can you offer us to avoid it? Do you mean to forgive you and grant you with our lands where our ancestors are buried ? Do you mean letting you watch our monasteries and our mines ? What exactly but blackmail have you offered us all those 16 years?


Avni : Just keep crying wolf war criminals.

На воре шапка горит !

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rote

pre 8 godina

Blind man


Original version is always better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Iq9CWuqMM

BONUS

See the blind man shooting at the world
Bullets flying taking toll.
If you’ve been bad, о Lord, I bet you have
And you’ve not been hit by the flying lead
You’d better close your eyes and bow your head
And wait for the ricochet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAPTsjhrjM

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observer

pre 8 godina

the more Serbs are terrorized the closer are the Russians !
(rote, 22 January 2016 16:40)

Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing in away that even will make their killing sprees in the 90's look like Kindergarten play. They would have to kill about 1.6 Million Kosovars. Nobody in Kosovo will put up with serb domination an serb rule ever again after what happened in the 90's. Another holocaust would be the only way to actually achieve this sick serb dream. Nobody in the West will let that happen, even if Putin and mother Russia would actually support it. You creepy people live in another universe, full of hate and obvious fantasies of mass murder if you actually believe such things. On the other hand it just shows your mentality, your personality, and that is actually sickening.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
[link]
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 January 2016 11:23)

Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 01:26) Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law.

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Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

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rote

pre 8 godina

Each time the situation on Balkans calms down a bit someone is always adding fuel .

http://yandex.ru/video/search?filmId=6ZCUkGtlgHw&text=john%20lennon%20give%20peace%20a%20chance&redircnt=1453446795.1

All we are saying is give peace a chance

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Mark

pre 8 godina

It is said he only got nine years he should of get more for all the killings he was found guilty for.. Over 47 kills and 257 tortures ....The albanian guy got 12 year for one accused killing is till dont understand how servs thing they better then ever body.

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lukebuyenovich

pre 8 godina

"Time Belgrade reexamined participation in Kosovo talks"These talks with Kosovo Albanians although desirable they are meaningless.Kosovo Albanians are only interested in Serbia's signature on their proclaimed independence.Lets examine the situation on European Continent present and past.EU is formed as as result of terrible war World 2.There is a trace of evidence today that antisemitism is on the rise.This EU experiment is not working for many reasons which I can not address in this limited comment.There is a four integrated components to EU:Political,military (NATO)judicial and economic.How Serbs fit in this arrangement? Not very good for following reasons.Disintegration of Yugoslavia was on Western Europe drawing board long before it happen.When that did happen they managed disintegration and consequently civil war,which outcome is obvious to everyone.Serbs were demonized and criminalized so they could be "justifiably"punish for the previous Europeans wars (Balkan,World war 1 and 2..This was all done to down size Serbia and make that Country weak so they could be faithful lackey like rest of the people of former Yugoslavia.Western courts are design to keep Serbia in line as they wish so there is no expiration date for this court.Serbia's leadership should daily analyse the situation in EU and act according to its own National interest From my perspective Serbia should never let Kosovo go because its our IDENTITY

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory.
(Ari Gold, 21 January 2016 18:02)

Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law. However, the law that rules Kosovo-Metohija is UNSCR 1244, not Serbia'a law.

On the functioning side, as you correctly pointed out, Kosovo-Metohija already functions independently from Serbia since 1999.

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Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!
(observer, 21 January 2016 17:01)

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory. Albanian extremists have done far worse things than inhumanely treat Ivanovic so poorly, this is just a byproduct of the irresponsible behavior that your NATO sponsors allow you to get away with. And we'll see if even this holds or not.

If Serbia's gov't had any decency it would suspend the Brussels talks. Albanians need them way more than Belgrade does. Hypothetical membership in an EU that might not be around in a few years time http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33162306 for this monkey shit is disgraceful.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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ian

pre 8 godina

It is this way for now... But things will return the the norm, which is for sure not alabanian rule of kosovo. Just going to take time. The weaker dog cannot always be protected. The dust will settle and the plague in kosovo will pass eventually.

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the actual truth

pre 8 godina

he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.
(the truth, 21 January 2016 14:54)

We've been saying the same thing about Isa Mustafa for weeks now.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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Rocky

pre 8 godina

Djuric spoke for state broadcaster RTS after the Serb politician from Kosovo was found guilty and sentenced to nine years in prison for war crimes committed against ethnic Albanians, to say that the international court's ruling was at the same time "a political message to Serbia, and a way to humiliate the whole country."

Goes to show you djuric, and the rest of Serbia, The republic of Kosova passes its own judgments as it is sovereign of Serbia in every which way humanly imaginable! And there is nothing that Serbia can do!!! "Veilka Albania"

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Rebeli

pre 8 godina

This Djuric guy must be a pathetic idiot. Brussels negotiations aren't so important to Kosovo Albanians as they are crucial to Serbia. Without these "agreements" Serbia is cut out, and its role in Kosovo is quite irrelevant.

Kosovo has already made far more concessions to Serbia (in the context of Brussels agreement) than it should have done. Thanks god, the international comunity have realized this now and Kosavars realized it too.
What agreement can you sign with a government whose Deputy PM Rasim Ljajic said he was "shocked by the verdict" and expected "the atmosphere" in Kosovo to worsen....! Is the Serbian government planning to "worsen" the situation in Kosovo? Does "worsening the situation" means killing more Albanians? How far is the current Serbian government willing to go in order to protect some convicted criminals.???

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the truth

pre 8 godina

this gjuric guy is a nobody. whats wrong with so called serb politicians aka personal profiteers? he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.

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Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

EU judges why not say re-examine the EU accession, which for your reminder seem to be linked chapter 35.

You want to join EU but dont trust its judgement why bother as they will have an anal probe so deep that you will feel it in all spheres of life.

I thought there is full chapter in EU accession talks on judiciary and its long, so you will make changes to join but dont trust their independence, :)

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ian

pre 8 godina

It is this way for now... But things will return the the norm, which is for sure not alabanian rule of kosovo. Just going to take time. The weaker dog cannot always be protected. The dust will settle and the plague in kosovo will pass eventually.

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Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!
(observer, 21 January 2016 17:01)

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory. Albanian extremists have done far worse things than inhumanely treat Ivanovic so poorly, this is just a byproduct of the irresponsible behavior that your NATO sponsors allow you to get away with. And we'll see if even this holds or not.

If Serbia's gov't had any decency it would suspend the Brussels talks. Albanians need them way more than Belgrade does. Hypothetical membership in an EU that might not be around in a few years time http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33162306 for this monkey shit is disgraceful.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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Rebeli

pre 8 godina

This Djuric guy must be a pathetic idiot. Brussels negotiations aren't so important to Kosovo Albanians as they are crucial to Serbia. Without these "agreements" Serbia is cut out, and its role in Kosovo is quite irrelevant.

Kosovo has already made far more concessions to Serbia (in the context of Brussels agreement) than it should have done. Thanks god, the international comunity have realized this now and Kosavars realized it too.
What agreement can you sign with a government whose Deputy PM Rasim Ljajic said he was "shocked by the verdict" and expected "the atmosphere" in Kosovo to worsen....! Is the Serbian government planning to "worsen" the situation in Kosovo? Does "worsening the situation" means killing more Albanians? How far is the current Serbian government willing to go in order to protect some convicted criminals.???

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

EU judges why not say re-examine the EU accession, which for your reminder seem to be linked chapter 35.

You want to join EU but dont trust its judgement why bother as they will have an anal probe so deep that you will feel it in all spheres of life.

I thought there is full chapter in EU accession talks on judiciary and its long, so you will make changes to join but dont trust their independence, :)

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the truth

pre 8 godina

this gjuric guy is a nobody. whats wrong with so called serb politicians aka personal profiteers? he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.

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Rocky

pre 8 godina

Djuric spoke for state broadcaster RTS after the Serb politician from Kosovo was found guilty and sentenced to nine years in prison for war crimes committed against ethnic Albanians, to say that the international court's ruling was at the same time "a political message to Serbia, and a way to humiliate the whole country."

Goes to show you djuric, and the rest of Serbia, The republic of Kosova passes its own judgments as it is sovereign of Serbia in every which way humanly imaginable! And there is nothing that Serbia can do!!! "Veilka Albania"

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observer

pre 8 godina

the more Serbs are terrorized the closer are the Russians !
(rote, 22 January 2016 16:40)

Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing in away that even will make their killing sprees in the 90's look like Kindergarten play. They would have to kill about 1.6 Million Kosovars. Nobody in Kosovo will put up with serb domination an serb rule ever again after what happened in the 90's. Another holocaust would be the only way to actually achieve this sick serb dream. Nobody in the West will let that happen, even if Putin and mother Russia would actually support it. You creepy people live in another universe, full of hate and obvious fantasies of mass murder if you actually believe such things. On the other hand it just shows your mentality, your personality, and that is actually sickening.

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the actual truth

pre 8 godina

he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.
(the truth, 21 January 2016 14:54)

We've been saying the same thing about Isa Mustafa for weeks now.

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

We dont have to offer you anything because there is nothing you could do. Neither good nor bad. You are just irrelevant and with your constant warmongering, you only show what kind of a lowlife you are.

I mean. Come on. Bring it. Do something. Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? Nothing! Or what did you do to support serbia when Russia came to Kosovo with KFor? Nothing again! We kicked you out of the country because you couldnt pay the electricity bill! LOL

Truth is, no one is afraid of Russia and your contribution to this world is funny dashcam videos on Youtube.

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observer

pre 8 godina

@ (rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

it was never yours to begin with. Only in the twisted interpretation of nationalist Serbs this was serb land. Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo hundreds of years ago. If other countries would act like that and demand that areas, or provinces, which once were part of their territory will always be their own, the world would be in constant war, well, mankind would have ceased to exist a long time ago, because everybody would be dead by now. Intresting to see that you also realize that only by another huge holocaust with the death of at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus Millons of other innocent people this sick serb / rote dream can be achieved, and you still want to do just that. Only a really sick person, a sick nation can actually want to do something like that. Rest ashure it won't happen. It would be WWIII if you ever attempt that. Nobody in the West would let you sickos get away with something like that.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
[link]
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 January 2016 11:23)

Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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Mark

pre 8 godina

It is said he only got nine years he should of get more for all the killings he was found guilty for.. Over 47 kills and 257 tortures ....The albanian guy got 12 year for one accused killing is till dont understand how servs thing they better then ever body.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory.
(Ari Gold, 21 January 2016 18:02)

Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law. However, the law that rules Kosovo-Metohija is UNSCR 1244, not Serbia'a law.

On the functioning side, as you correctly pointed out, Kosovo-Metohija already functions independently from Serbia since 1999.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 01:26) Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law.

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Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

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observer

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming goat herders...
(Grobar1, 21 January 2016 18:33)

a message from potential mass murderers and past and future war criminals ....

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lukebuyenovich

pre 8 godina

"Time Belgrade reexamined participation in Kosovo talks"These talks with Kosovo Albanians although desirable they are meaningless.Kosovo Albanians are only interested in Serbia's signature on their proclaimed independence.Lets examine the situation on European Continent present and past.EU is formed as as result of terrible war World 2.There is a trace of evidence today that antisemitism is on the rise.This EU experiment is not working for many reasons which I can not address in this limited comment.There is a four integrated components to EU:Political,military (NATO)judicial and economic.How Serbs fit in this arrangement? Not very good for following reasons.Disintegration of Yugoslavia was on Western Europe drawing board long before it happen.When that did happen they managed disintegration and consequently civil war,which outcome is obvious to everyone.Serbs were demonized and criminalized so they could be "justifiably"punish for the previous Europeans wars (Balkan,World war 1 and 2..This was all done to down size Serbia and make that Country weak so they could be faithful lackey like rest of the people of former Yugoslavia.Western courts are design to keep Serbia in line as they wish so there is no expiration date for this court.Serbia's leadership should daily analyse the situation in EU and act according to its own National interest From my perspective Serbia should never let Kosovo go because its our IDENTITY

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rote

pre 8 godina

Observer: Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing

What else can you offer us to avoid it? Do you mean to forgive you and grant you with our lands where our ancestors are buried ? Do you mean letting you watch our monasteries and our mines ? What exactly but blackmail have you offered us all those 16 years?


Avni : Just keep crying wolf war criminals.

На воре шапка горит !

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rote

pre 8 godina

Blind man


Original version is always better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Iq9CWuqMM

BONUS

See the blind man shooting at the world
Bullets flying taking toll.
If you’ve been bad, о Lord, I bet you have
And you’ve not been hit by the flying lead
You’d better close your eyes and bow your head
And wait for the ricochet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAPTsjhrjM

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 23 January 2016 06:47)

Well, first of all, if you were intending to reply to some other post, and not mine, feel free to do so. That's exactly what I pointed out that you were referencing the wrong post.

Second, note that you referred to "jurisdiction" not "territory" in your "clarification" on 22 January 2016 11:23. It looks like you can't comprehend your own posts... lol

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.

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rote

pre 8 godina

Each time the situation on Balkans calms down a bit someone is always adding fuel .

http://yandex.ru/video/search?filmId=6ZCUkGtlgHw&text=john%20lennon%20give%20peace%20a%20chance&redircnt=1453446795.1

All we are saying is give peace a chance

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 15:37) Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.

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Serbian Goat Lover

pre 8 godina

You're too late, Gjuric the Kosovar side already announced they would stop talking. The only thing you can come up with is to copy the Kosovar side and announce that you will "reexamine"?? LOL.

And by the way, please check your family background. Out of all the Slavic people only the Serbs have the "DJ" sound, which comes straight from the Albanian "GJ" sound. A lot of you are a cross between Slavic and Albanian and you don't even know it :)

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rote kapelle

pre 8 godina

Observer : Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo


KIM is an internationally admitted territory of Serbia and it means more than the BS you dared to place here. Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzFt05IBOI



Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? ... We kicked you out

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)


МУДАК ТАКАЯ are the words that make me feel better when I see such idiotic comments. But we all know that the whole problem became possible because Russia afforded to be weak for a while. Yet even that weak Russia with Dindic minded Yeltsin at the helm tried to do something for our brothers. All because the Russians always feel response for Serbia now with the taste of our guilt. So you don’t have to tease us because Russians already feel shame and are eager to improve our mistakes. Then we shall see how long must be the sea shore for such a small people like the Croats. Something in between 50-100 km I think. Your friend Leopard taught placing videos so you can enjoy the wolves to come to the bays. These guys annually win the special forces competitions always leaving the Yankees behind and their name is Спецназ ГРУ - words to remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55ZgnxvRG4

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14)

At least you admit defeat, I give you that. Insult and post as many videos as you want. Fact is: You are giving out checks your ass can`t cash.

I forgot to mention that before the Russians where kicked out of Kosovo because they couldn`t pay electricity bill, Kosovars provided food aid to Russian troops because your government couldnt even make sure they had enough to eat. It was really heartbreaking, seeing Russian troops supposed to protect us from Serbian aggression, starving. I remember my cousin delivering bread, pork and soup to their checkpoint in Klina. I still feel bad for these young men, left alone in a foreign country. Oh btw, you are welcome for taking care of them. Like it or not but Albanian hospitality is famous - just like our pride and fighting spirit. Remember, we are the sons and daughters of Gjerg Kastrioti (Skenderbeu). You say Speznas, I say average Albanian.

Now relax and stop making comments about things you cannot influence. Check out this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8Iotgll8A

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Observer

pre 8 godina

Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)

Another potential serb mass murderer and past and furture war criminal. I guess they are everywhere. You can only fullfill your sick dreams if you are ready to kill at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus a few million more innocent people. Do you really believe the people in Kosovo will put up with serb domination, rape, killer brigades ever again. Do you really think the world is letting you do this? If you do, go and have your head examed, or better check into a luni bin, and that applies to anybody who believes in such crazy ideas.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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observer

pre 8 godina

sorry Gjon Marku, I made a mistake in my post from last night. It was not you who wrote this redicules warmongering post, but (rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14). My apologies. Love the Kosovo song you posted.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2016 07:38)

You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01) But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
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Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18) Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you. so I did try to contact the KiM ambassador in the UN ---- they do not exist.

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observer

pre 8 godina

ICJ forget to even try to talk to people like Amnesty Yugoslavia, Ari Gold, Peggy, Gobart, etc. It is a wast of time. These people didn't learn a thing. Their heros are still the one's who brought death and destruction to the entire Balkan, they are unable to reflect on what happened, and are caught up in that horrable serb nationalist/fascist way of thinking. They personify the lost serb generation, who will only continue to pull that contry down even further. Rest assured, the entire free world has not forgotten what happened back than, and knows who is still responsible for these unspeakable atrocities. Serbia will not become a member of the EU before it faces its dark past and realizes what was done in its name. Germany did that, learned after WWII, and became a respected member of the world community, Serbia still has to make this step, before it can become a respected country again.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 04:25)

Of course, I support that other position of Serbia, too because I have always supported UNSCR 1244 and the Helsinki Final Act.

Great than, it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?
(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18)

Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 January 2016 16:12)

Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 00:44) Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?
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The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever. Heck, KiM isn't even designated outside of Serbia's borders with an "unofficial" disclaimer. No trace of a KiM outside of Serbia's borders exists officially, or even unofficially, at the UN.

That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic. If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.
(RighteousBilly, 26 January 2016 13:30)

Well, if somebody provides "evidence" that does not support their claims, I totally agree with you that there is no point to provide that "evidence" because I'll certainly point out that it is BS "evidence". But you are certainly free to accept any "evidence" that you are given without reading or checking it :)

As for your post that B92 allegedly did not publish, I really regret that B92 did not publish it because it looks like we missed the chance to have a good laugh lol

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Mate, I asked you a very specific thing, i.e. "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" and you replied "Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border".

But the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations"

So, before we move on to your new piece of "evidence", i.e. UNSCR 1244, are we in agreement that the map you provided is not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders"?

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icj1

pre 8 godina

A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Ok, but I never said that KiM outside Serbia's borders is recognized by the UN (whatever that means)! I think you might be confusing me with a certain Vladimir Putin. It was him who said that UN bodies decided that Kosovo should become independent of Serbia, not me :)
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That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I never asked you for evidence of non-existence. I asked you for "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?". If KiM within Serbia's borders is non-existant, then you do have a point :)
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If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I'm not sure what those fairytales are or when you did see them in your dreams. However, I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

observer:

My hero is anyone who advocates the peaceful coexistence of diverse people within the boundaries of Yugoslavia.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28) it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

"You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol"

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed. Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.
(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28)

Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 15:35)

Of course, UNSCR 1244 reaffirms the commitment of all UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia - I did not say UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral with regard to Serbia. I said that I agree with Serbia's position http://www.kim.gov.rs/eng/v305.php that UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral in regards to KiM.

As for the map, of course it is consistent with UNSCR 1244 (otherwise it would be an illegal map) and, according to the UN, the map is not evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a territory or jurisdiction within Serbia's borders.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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observer

pre 8 godina

Even the blindest serb should realize now that Kosovo no longer is part of Serbia, and Serbia has no power in Kosovo whatsoever. Serbia's law and its judicial system end at the Kosovo border, and won't go any further. All the huffing and puffing of serb politicians won't change that. What more evidence is needed to show the serb public that their politicians are nothing but a bunch of liers when it comes to Kosovo. Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!

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Rebeli

pre 8 godina

This Djuric guy must be a pathetic idiot. Brussels negotiations aren't so important to Kosovo Albanians as they are crucial to Serbia. Without these "agreements" Serbia is cut out, and its role in Kosovo is quite irrelevant.

Kosovo has already made far more concessions to Serbia (in the context of Brussels agreement) than it should have done. Thanks god, the international comunity have realized this now and Kosavars realized it too.
What agreement can you sign with a government whose Deputy PM Rasim Ljajic said he was "shocked by the verdict" and expected "the atmosphere" in Kosovo to worsen....! Is the Serbian government planning to "worsen" the situation in Kosovo? Does "worsening the situation" means killing more Albanians? How far is the current Serbian government willing to go in order to protect some convicted criminals.???

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Rocky

pre 8 godina

Djuric spoke for state broadcaster RTS after the Serb politician from Kosovo was found guilty and sentenced to nine years in prison for war crimes committed against ethnic Albanians, to say that the international court's ruling was at the same time "a political message to Serbia, and a way to humiliate the whole country."

Goes to show you djuric, and the rest of Serbia, The republic of Kosova passes its own judgments as it is sovereign of Serbia in every which way humanly imaginable! And there is nothing that Serbia can do!!! "Veilka Albania"

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ian

pre 8 godina

It is this way for now... But things will return the the norm, which is for sure not alabanian rule of kosovo. Just going to take time. The weaker dog cannot always be protected. The dust will settle and the plague in kosovo will pass eventually.

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Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is NOT Serbia, and will never be part of Serbia again!!!
(observer, 21 January 2016 17:01)

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory. Albanian extremists have done far worse things than inhumanely treat Ivanovic so poorly, this is just a byproduct of the irresponsible behavior that your NATO sponsors allow you to get away with. And we'll see if even this holds or not.

If Serbia's gov't had any decency it would suspend the Brussels talks. Albanians need them way more than Belgrade does. Hypothetical membership in an EU that might not be around in a few years time http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33162306 for this monkey shit is disgraceful.

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the actual truth

pre 8 godina

he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.
(the truth, 21 January 2016 14:54)

We've been saying the same thing about Isa Mustafa for weeks now.

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lukebuyenovich

pre 8 godina

"Time Belgrade reexamined participation in Kosovo talks"These talks with Kosovo Albanians although desirable they are meaningless.Kosovo Albanians are only interested in Serbia's signature on their proclaimed independence.Lets examine the situation on European Continent present and past.EU is formed as as result of terrible war World 2.There is a trace of evidence today that antisemitism is on the rise.This EU experiment is not working for many reasons which I can not address in this limited comment.There is a four integrated components to EU:Political,military (NATO)judicial and economic.How Serbs fit in this arrangement? Not very good for following reasons.Disintegration of Yugoslavia was on Western Europe drawing board long before it happen.When that did happen they managed disintegration and consequently civil war,which outcome is obvious to everyone.Serbs were demonized and criminalized so they could be "justifiably"punish for the previous Europeans wars (Balkan,World war 1 and 2..This was all done to down size Serbia and make that Country weak so they could be faithful lackey like rest of the people of former Yugoslavia.Western courts are design to keep Serbia in line as they wish so there is no expiration date for this court.Serbia's leadership should daily analyse the situation in EU and act according to its own National interest From my perspective Serbia should never let Kosovo go because its our IDENTITY

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rote

pre 8 godina

Each time the situation on Balkans calms down a bit someone is always adding fuel .

http://yandex.ru/video/search?filmId=6ZCUkGtlgHw&text=john%20lennon%20give%20peace%20a%20chance&redircnt=1453446795.1

All we are saying is give peace a chance

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the truth

pre 8 godina

this gjuric guy is a nobody. whats wrong with so called serb politicians aka personal profiteers? he can bark all he wants , but he gut no teeth to bite.

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rote

pre 8 godina

Observer: Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing

What else can you offer us to avoid it? Do you mean to forgive you and grant you with our lands where our ancestors are buried ? Do you mean letting you watch our monasteries and our mines ? What exactly but blackmail have you offered us all those 16 years?


Avni : Just keep crying wolf war criminals.

На воре шапка горит !

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 01:26) Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law.

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Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/world.pdf

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observer

pre 8 godina

the more Serbs are terrorized the closer are the Russians !
(rote, 22 January 2016 16:40)

Serbs want to reconquer Kosovo again. That is only possible if they commit ethnic cleansing in away that even will make their killing sprees in the 90's look like Kindergarten play. They would have to kill about 1.6 Million Kosovars. Nobody in Kosovo will put up with serb domination an serb rule ever again after what happened in the 90's. Another holocaust would be the only way to actually achieve this sick serb dream. Nobody in the West will let that happen, even if Putin and mother Russia would actually support it. You creepy people live in another universe, full of hate and obvious fantasies of mass murder if you actually believe such things. On the other hand it just shows your mentality, your personality, and that is actually sickening.

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

We dont have to offer you anything because there is nothing you could do. Neither good nor bad. You are just irrelevant and with your constant warmongering, you only show what kind of a lowlife you are.

I mean. Come on. Bring it. Do something. Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? Nothing! Or what did you do to support serbia when Russia came to Kosovo with KFor? Nothing again! We kicked you out of the country because you couldnt pay the electricity bill! LOL

Truth is, no one is afraid of Russia and your contribution to this world is funny dashcam videos on Youtube.

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rote

pre 8 godina

Blind man


Original version is always better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Iq9CWuqMM

BONUS

See the blind man shooting at the world
Bullets flying taking toll.
If you’ve been bad, о Lord, I bet you have
And you’ve not been hit by the flying lead
You’d better close your eyes and bow your head
And wait for the ricochet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wAPTsjhrjM

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Kosovo-Metohija not functioning as a part of Serbia does not mean it is not Serbia's legal territory.
(Ari Gold, 21 January 2016 18:02)

Of course, nobody is disputing that Kosovo-Metohija is Serbia's territory according to Serbia's law. However, the law that rules Kosovo-Metohija is UNSCR 1244, not Serbia'a law.

On the functioning side, as you correctly pointed out, Kosovo-Metohija already functions independently from Serbia since 1999.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Clarification: KiM is a jurisdiction within Serbia's borders according to the UN.
Please do reference and consult a map of the world from the UN:
[link]
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 22 January 2016 11:23)

Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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rote kapelle

pre 8 godina

Observer : Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo


KIM is an internationally admitted territory of Serbia and it means more than the BS you dared to place here. Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBzFt05IBOI



Russias support for Serbia was seen when they did what during Nato bombing? ... We kicked you out

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)


МУДАК ТАКАЯ are the words that make me feel better when I see such idiotic comments. But we all know that the whole problem became possible because Russia afforded to be weak for a while. Yet even that weak Russia with Dindic minded Yeltsin at the helm tried to do something for our brothers. All because the Russians always feel response for Serbia now with the taste of our guilt. So you don’t have to tease us because Russians already feel shame and are eager to improve our mistakes. Then we shall see how long must be the sea shore for such a small people like the Croats. Something in between 50-100 km I think. Your friend Leopard taught placing videos so you can enjoy the wolves to come to the bays. These guys annually win the special forces competitions always leaving the Yankees behind and their name is Спецназ ГРУ - words to remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-55ZgnxvRG4

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Mark

pre 8 godina

It is said he only got nine years he should of get more for all the killings he was found guilty for.. Over 47 kills and 257 tortures ....The albanian guy got 12 year for one accused killing is till dont understand how servs thing they better then ever body.

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observer

pre 8 godina

@ (rote, 22 January 2016 22:07)

it was never yours to begin with. Only in the twisted interpretation of nationalist Serbs this was serb land. Only during a very short period of time lasting less than 100 hundred years was there ever a serb majority in Kosovo hundreds of years ago. If other countries would act like that and demand that areas, or provinces, which once were part of their territory will always be their own, the world would be in constant war, well, mankind would have ceased to exist a long time ago, because everybody would be dead by now. Intresting to see that you also realize that only by another huge holocaust with the death of at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus Millons of other innocent people this sick serb / rote dream can be achieved, and you still want to do just that. Only a really sick person, a sick nation can actually want to do something like that. Rest ashure it won't happen. It would be WWIII if you ever attempt that. Nobody in the West would let you sickos get away with something like that.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 22 January 2016 15:37) Sure, whatever that means in practical terms. Anyway, you referenced the wrong post. We were discussing about what law rules KiM. Maps don't rule; the law does! And, according to the UN it is UNSCR 1244 that rules KiM, not Serbia's law.

P.S. good job btw, I see you've finally taken my advise and started to provide proper evidence to support your statements. That is progress :)

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The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28) it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The original post referred to territory. Unfortunately, you've shown no progress in improving your comprehension.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 23 January 2016 06:47)

Well, first of all, if you were intending to reply to some other post, and not mine, feel free to do so. That's exactly what I pointed out that you were referencing the wrong post.

Second, note that you referred to "jurisdiction" not "territory" in your "clarification" on 22 January 2016 11:23. It looks like you can't comprehend your own posts... lol

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.

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observer

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming goat herders...
(Grobar1, 21 January 2016 18:33)

a message from potential mass murderers and past and future war criminals ....

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01) But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
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Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.

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Serbian Goat Lover

pre 8 godina

You're too late, Gjuric the Kosovar side already announced they would stop talking. The only thing you can come up with is to copy the Kosovar side and announce that you will "reexamine"?? LOL.

And by the way, please check your family background. Out of all the Slavic people only the Serbs have the "DJ" sound, which comes straight from the Albanian "GJ" sound. A lot of you are a cross between Slavic and Albanian and you don't even know it :)

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Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

EU judges why not say re-examine the EU accession, which for your reminder seem to be linked chapter 35.

You want to join EU but dont trust its judgement why bother as they will have an anal probe so deep that you will feel it in all spheres of life.

I thought there is full chapter in EU accession talks on judiciary and its long, so you will make changes to join but dont trust their independence, :)

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18) Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you. so I did try to contact the KiM ambassador in the UN ---- they do not exist.

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Observer

pre 8 godina

Rather sooner than later we will come to take back what must belong to us and our children. So best if you shake hands with our Serbian brothers before that.

(Gjon Marku, 22 January 2016 23:04)

Another potential serb mass murderer and past and furture war criminal. I guess they are everywhere. You can only fullfill your sick dreams if you are ready to kill at least 1.6 Million Kosovars, plus a few million more innocent people. Do you really believe the people in Kosovo will put up with serb domination, rape, killer brigades ever again. Do you really think the world is letting you do this? If you do, go and have your head examed, or better check into a luni bin, and that applies to anybody who believes in such crazy ideas.

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observer

pre 8 godina

sorry Gjon Marku, I made a mistake in my post from last night. It was not you who wrote this redicules warmongering post, but (rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14). My apologies. Love the Kosovo song you posted.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 00:44) Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?
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The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever. Heck, KiM isn't even designated outside of Serbia's borders with an "unofficial" disclaimer. No trace of a KiM outside of Serbia's borders exists officially, or even unofficially, at the UN.

That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic. If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

A KiM outside of Serbia's borders is not recognized by the UN whatsoever.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Ok, but I never said that KiM outside Serbia's borders is recognized by the UN (whatever that means)! I think you might be confusing me with a certain Vladimir Putin. It was him who said that UN bodies decided that Kosovo should become independent of Serbia, not me :)
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That you want evidence of non-existence is a another demonstration of your convoluted (il)logic.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I never asked you for evidence of non-existence. I asked you for "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?". If KiM within Serbia's borders is non-existant, then you do have a point :)
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If you want to fantasize about Tinkerbell, or KiM outside of Serbia's border at the UN, or other fairytales, there's not much I can do about your dillusions.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

I'm not sure what those fairytales are or when you did see them in your dreams. However, I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

observer:

My hero is anyone who advocates the peaceful coexistence of diverse people within the boundaries of Yugoslavia.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

"You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol"

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed. Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.

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Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(rote kapelle, 24 January 2016 06:14)

At least you admit defeat, I give you that. Insult and post as many videos as you want. Fact is: You are giving out checks your ass can`t cash.

I forgot to mention that before the Russians where kicked out of Kosovo because they couldn`t pay electricity bill, Kosovars provided food aid to Russian troops because your government couldnt even make sure they had enough to eat. It was really heartbreaking, seeing Russian troops supposed to protect us from Serbian aggression, starving. I remember my cousin delivering bread, pork and soup to their checkpoint in Klina. I still feel bad for these young men, left alone in a foreign country. Oh btw, you are welcome for taking care of them. Like it or not but Albanian hospitality is famous - just like our pride and fighting spirit. Remember, we are the sons and daughters of Gjerg Kastrioti (Skenderbeu). You say Speznas, I say average Albanian.

Now relax and stop making comments about things you cannot influence. Check out this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8Iotgll8A

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icj1

pre 8 godina

But regardless of whether you want to refer to "territory" or "jurisdiction", in any case you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.

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RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.

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observer

pre 8 godina

ICJ forget to even try to talk to people like Amnesty Yugoslavia, Ari Gold, Peggy, Gobart, etc. It is a wast of time. These people didn't learn a thing. Their heros are still the one's who brought death and destruction to the entire Balkan, they are unable to reflect on what happened, and are caught up in that horrable serb nationalist/fascist way of thinking. They personify the lost serb generation, who will only continue to pull that contry down even further. Rest assured, the entire free world has not forgotten what happened back than, and knows who is still responsible for these unspeakable atrocities. Serbia will not become a member of the EU before it faces its dark past and realizes what was done in its name. Germany did that, learned after WWII, and became a respected member of the world community, Serbia still has to make this step, before it can become a respected country again.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

you did not provide any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders.
(icj1, 23 January 2016 17:01)

Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2016 01:07)

Well, in regards to that map at the link that you provided the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations".

So, back to my question... Do you have any evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders?
(icj1, 25 January 2016 01:18)

Evidence such as reference to territorial integrity in UNSC resolution 1244 would be ignored by you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 January 2016 16:12)

Well, the link that you provided was the map, not UNSCR 1244 so I can't ignore something that you did not provide. So, I take it that you are withdrawing your map "evidence" since apparently in your enthusiasm of having found something you did not read it carefully, and now want to use another evidence?

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, what's the point giving you evidence? If you dont like what you hear you simply ignore it. I provided you evidence of Albanians white bears, Albanian sea, Albanian Alps, but unfortunately it wasn't published by b92.Keep on making us sall laugh.
(RighteousBilly, 26 January 2016 13:30)

Well, if somebody provides "evidence" that does not support their claims, I totally agree with you that there is no point to provide that "evidence" because I'll certainly point out that it is BS "evidence". But you are certainly free to accept any "evidence" that you are given without reading or checking it :)

As for your post that B92 allegedly did not publish, I really regret that B92 did not publish it because it looks like we missed the chance to have a good laugh lol

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icj1

pre 8 godina

The map is consistent with the territorial integrity referred to in UNSCR 1244. (Read it, Notwithstanding your great difficulties in English comprehension).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2016 11:07)

Mate, I asked you a very specific thing, i.e. "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" and you replied "Dude, it appears that you not only failed primary level English comprehension, but you apparently lack basic geography skills to find KiM on the official UN map (see link below in my first post) within Serbia's border".

But the UN says that "the boundaries and names shown and the designations used on this map do not imply official endorsement or acceptance by the United Nations"

So, before we move on to your new piece of "evidence", i.e. UNSCR 1244, are we in agreement that the map you provided is not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders"?

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Icj1, "allegedly" b92 did not publish my comment? Most certainly, but nevermind. Talking to you and other Albanian extremists is like whispering to deaf man. Reading your comments reminded me on one Dusko Radovic's saying: when someone is stupid it's hard even to prove him that. Icj1, keep making us laugh with your comments.
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2016 07:38)

You got it mate; I am deaf to lies and writings that are factually incorrect because, well.... facts are very very stubborn. Good luck in your endeavors to prove otherwise lol

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icj1

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 26 January 2016 15:45) I support Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral when it comes to KiM.
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Serbia's position is that the UN and all member states reaffirm the commitment to its sovereignty and territorial integrity. This language and principle is evident in paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. Your support for the basic principles of territorial integrity in this UN document, as well as the UN charter and Helsinki Final Act are acknowledged.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 04:25)

Of course, I support that other position of Serbia, too because I have always supported UNSCR 1244 and the Helsinki Final Act.

Great than, it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, you twist my words then you answer on something I never said or claimed.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

You claimed that talking to me was like whispering to a deaf man, and that's what I replied to, confirming that yes I am deaf to lies and things that are factually incorrect. What did I twist?!
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Who lies we see for ourselves when you (Albanians) claim serbian monasteries as albanian catholic churches, when you accuse every attack on Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija as something that victims did to themselves as you did in communist Yugoslavia.
(RighteousBilly, 28 January 2016 08:21)

I have not said any of the above. Feel free though to follow up with the people who allegedly said the above.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

it looks like we are finally in agreement on everything, from the fact that the map you provided was not "evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a "territory" or "jurisdiction" within Serbia's borders" to Serbia's position that the UN is status-neutral in regards to KiM and Serbia's position in support of UNSCR 124 and Helsinki Final Act.
(icj1, 27 January 2016 14:28)

Dude, Serbia's position is that the UN and its member states reaffirm its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Read paragraph 10 and annex 2 sections 6 and 8 of UNSCR 1244. No other status, neutral or otherwise, with regard to territorial integrity appear in UNSCR 1244. The UN map is consistent with UNSCR 1244. Yes I am glad we finally agree.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 January 2016 15:35)

Of course, UNSCR 1244 reaffirms the commitment of all UN member states to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia - I did not say UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral with regard to Serbia. I said that I agree with Serbia's position http://www.kim.gov.rs/eng/v305.php that UNSCR 1244 is status-neutral in regards to KiM.

As for the map, of course it is consistent with UNSCR 1244 (otherwise it would be an illegal map) and, according to the UN, the map is not evidence that the UN officially endorses or accepts your assertion that KiM is a territory or jurisdiction within Serbia's borders.

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