Ivanovic found guilty, sentenced to nine years in prison

Considering the crime this warcriminal is being convicted of, he got lucky with only 9 years.

The good thing is, he`s going to be imprisoned in Kosovo.

Great job B92! Well known politician gets sentenced to 9 years prison for war crimes and you write and article but omit the who, why, what, where and when!

Would have been nice if you detailed what the hell he did. But that might be giving the reader too much information and make the war crimes a reality. Let's quickly brush what he did under the rug...

finally justice

This is not enough for such crimes this criminal committed.
All - one by one will be brought to justice but justice must me done and punishment must be to the satisfaction of the victims which in this case - life in prison. Without parole.

because serbia says Kosovo is a part of Serbia If Serbia opposed thins they would send there police to free him.

So, in fact, the ruling says Ivanovic was wearing blue uniform and this must have been some kind of leader of the Serbian paramilitaries in Kosovo 1999, and thus must be seen as responsible for murders of Albanian civilians some Serb paramilitaries committed.

Hasn't been Thaci being the KLA leader, too? And he is not responsible for the numerous killings of Serbian and Albanian civilians by his KLA 'freedom fighters'?

Thank goodness for the guilty verdict however my concern and the concern of certain others is that a 9 year prison sentence is a relatively light sentence if we think about it when it comes to ordering the unjustifiable murder of people in this case.

Well known politician gets sentenced to 9 years prison for war crimes and you write and article but omit the who, why, what, where and when!

Would have been nice if you detailed what the hell he did.
(Serbian Crusher, 21 January 2016 12:28)

Great question, since that's what everyone was asking during this trial. It's a bit difficult to describe the who, why, what, where and when, when there's little to pin on him, especially after four others, including a member of Serbia's MUP were all acquitted. It's even more difficult to provide specifics when dozens of alleged witnesses to Ivanovic's activities gave conflicting stories, contradictory statements, and accounts of events that sounded like they were paid to frame him rather than recount definitive information.

This verdict reeks of politics where the only logical reason for the conviction of Kosovo's most moderate Serbian politician - and one who speaks Albanian and has the most developed ties to Kosovo's pre-1999 Albanian political leadership - is to remove him from the scene. Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.

WTF. This is ridiculous. It was proved that he was personally responsible for the death of (at least) 9 people and he got a merely years in prison!!!!
This is not justice.

Serbs are a very proud people ! They have demonstrated many times how a man should accept his fate on the battlefield or on Hague Calvary ! This time Serbs are not alone as Russians are by their side again. I am sure that in the fast changing world the imprisonment won't last long while many Serbs will be ready to replace their hero.

I don't think he was the master-mind of the killings but I am sure he knows who are the real perpetrators but I doubt he is gonna rat them out. I mean at the end somebody killed the Albanians its not like they killed themselves right ?!
Somebody must be punished for this crime, I just hope they get the real criminals.

one less serbian terrorist on the street...lets clean kosovo from serbian terrorists

It was proved that he was personally responsible for the death of (at least) 9 people and he got a merely years in prison!!!!
This is not justice.
(Rebeli, 21 January 2016 16:14)

Of course it's not justice. It's removal of a potential liability. Especially when three others accused with him on less trumped-up charges than he all get acquitted.

Balkan Anthropologist: "whether Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict". I may be misunderstanding the process here, but I was unaware that Serbia had been found guilty of anything. Isn't it for Mr Ivanovic to appeal this verdict? On what basis would a country seek to appeal an individual's conviction? Did you mean whether they would protest against the verdict or do they really have a legal right to appeal?

Just 9, why not 99?

I think his arrest and subsequent his removal from politics was made by EU with request from Serbia and Kosovo Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 21 January 2016 16:19)

I may have to agree with you here on this one.

This time Serbs are not alone as Russians are by their side again.
(rote, 21 January 2016 16:32)


Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.

...This verdict reeks of politics where the only logical reason for the conviction of Kosovo's most moderate Serbian politician - and one who speaks Albanian and has the most developed ties to Kosovo's pre-1999 Albanian political leadership - is to remove him from the scene. Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 21 January 2016 14:54)...

I have to agree with you on this one.
But I don't think Kosovo was behind his arrest because has nothing to gain.
I think his arrest and subsequent his removal from politics was made by EU with request from Serbia and Kosovo Serbs.

Albanians are troublemakers and playing victim all the time like some whining complexed criminals, go back to Middle East and be with your own kind!

I am sure that in the fast changing world the imprisonment won't last long while many Serbs will be ready to replace their hero.
(rote, 21 January 2016 16:32)
2 questions for you:
Do you think that what this man and several others did was acceptable behaviour? that is, taking civilian mostly non-combatant males from their homes, murdering them and hiding the bodies.

If Ukrainian soldiers entered a village in E.Ukraine and took 50 ethnic-Russian civilians from their houses and shot them, you would also think that was acceptable?

"on the Shqiptar side there are much bigger criminals "
There may well be such people, collect your evidence and make your case.
I don't judge Serbs but I do judge bandits and there are plenty of Albanians who deserve to be in a cell too.


and defending the integrity of the state is most important?
Are the Russian soldiers in the state of Ukraine non-Islamic bandits or Islamic bandits"?

"What I do know is also the fact that in all those conflicts only Serbs acted in the interest of the then existing state of Yugoslavia"
LOL, its all ok then. Why do you keep moaning about Ukrainians protecting their state. What about Crimea
WOuld you forgive your childs murderer if he told you he did it in the interest of Russia/Ukraine/Serbia or some other state.


"80% of the sentenced are Serbs and 20% belong to 3 other participants of those wars"
This is just numbers that you made up. If you must know the accused numbers are 60:40.

Yankees add fuel to the fire/ As soon as Russia improves thing
LOL

R1a happlogroup ?
LOL one of your ancestors from 20000 years ago was from KiM so you get the land? You have a screw loose.

Your post is so full of inaccuracies, mistruths and bull that I don't have time to refute them all.

Albanians will release him due to outside pressure only to ban him from entering Kosovo ever again. What alanians couldnt finish during the war and the following pogrom they will acheive by fabricating allegations of war crimes. Besides, threathening Europe to cancel negotiations because EU doesn't want to grant Kosovo visa liberation just shows how pathetic albanians are. All you're good at is making threats. Instead of doing what the EU requires. Then again you should get the hint that you are not wanted in Europe. Think no other people have a reputation like albanians. You're in the same cathegory as somalians and neanderthals.

Defeating and expelling terrorist Serb and Russian war criminals from kosova was easy, educating them is proving to be rather difficult, as can be seen by the drivel written below. Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.

Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 21 January 2016 14:54)

Serbia can not seek appeal just FYI!

He is would not bend to SNS so he was sacrificed as lubricant for KLS trials.

same cathegory as somalians and neanderthals.
(MikeC, 22 January 2016 23:19)

Maybe, but still one category better than Serbs. The 90ies are not a farytail, the world remembers.

Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 January 2016 20:25)

Three out of four were acquitted. Tell me again about these mass arrests and convictions. Especially when the KLA war crimes tribunal is about to start in the The Hague. Tell me more about the "drivel" you read below. And try no to sound like an idiot while doing it.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 23 January 2016 06:36)

Be attentive, rather than run your mouth needlessly, and you will see. There are outstanding warrants for arrest of many Serb war criminals still at large. After the Serb elections you will see many Serb war criminals lose their immunity and be arrested, as was Ivanovic.

p.s.
The KLA war crimes tribunal is moot, it is being formed only to appease the many disillusioned Serbs. There are no KLA war criminals.

Dwight : “Do you think that what this man and several others did was acceptable behaviour? that is, taking civilian mostly non-combatant males from their homes, murdering them and hiding the bodies.”

This I don’t know but what I do know is that on the Shqiptar side there are much bigger criminals and nobody arrests them for 16 years now. What I know is as soon as people on the peninsula start to understand one another or make an independent move the Yankees add fuel to the fire and the Shqiptars are their devoted chain dogs. What I do know is also the fact that in all those conflicts only Serbs acted in the interest of the then existing state of Yugoslavia. They defended the integrity of the state against Islamic and non-Islamic bandits. So if you judge Serbs you should be as strict to the bandits armed and instigated by the West. But today we have a Calvary of Hague where 80% of the sentenced are Serbs and 20% belong to 3 other participants of those wars the most cruel and illegal ones. As soon as Russia improves things in the ME and Ukraine it will return to the Balkans to make peace. At least because according to the scientists the cradle of the Russian R1a happlogroup is Serbia to be exact KiM …

Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 January 2016 20:25)

Three out of four were acquitted. Tell me again about these mass arrests and convictions. Especially when the KLA war crimes tribunal is about to start in the The Hague. Tell me more about the "drivel" you read below. And try no to sound like an idiot while doing it.

The 90ies are not a farytail, the world remembers.
(Gjon Marku, 23 January 2016 00:55)

The world's moved on. We're now having fun laughing at the antics of people like Albanians. Well, the exponentially small fraction of the world that gives a damn to figure out who the Hell you are. As for Serbs, the '90s are over. For you Albanians, perpetually 20 years behind everyone else, the '90s are just beginning.

Got my popcorn ready and waiting to see who's going to be hauled off the Hague first :)

And equally excited to see you bitch and moan about it while still thinking you're the victim because you're stuck in a timewarp down in that armpit you call "Gjakova"

Just 9, why not 99?
(Avni, 21 January 2016 21:17)

Just 9? Why not 5.56 NATO?!

Did you mean whether they would protest against the verdict or do they really have a legal right to appeal?
(ned taylor, 21 January 2016 20:38)

Yes. I didn't think this needed to be spelled out, but yes.

There are no KLA war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:55)

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy. Especially since a number of KLA "heroes" already sit in jails throughout Europe. But live in your own delusions. You're clearly a clueless bloke.

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions.
(The Count of Kosova, 24 January 2016 23:04)

There's this thing called the "Internet", and on this magickal thing one can find all sort of factual information. Regarding your pathetic attempt at questioning the merits of KLA war crimes, you can find all sorts of documentation from the UN, the EU, various human rights groups, investigative journalism, and the actions of Kosovo's own government in voting for the tribunal as evidence. You'll have to read things that aren't published on radical nationalist Albanian news portals, so you may be in for a shock.

It's bad enough your points make no sense. Don't compound your idiocy by asking for information you know is out there and you can find yourself.

The person who goes by donkey hoxha is a real donkey.

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12
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You really are a simpleton. This was explained many, many times already but some people are just too stupid to know it.
(Peggy, 24 January 2016 23:12)

Yeah, exactly, I'm not sure why people continue to being that up as if it were some sort of news! Russia is known to support Serbia with words, not actions...

If Seselj is dragged back to the Hague by his balls, no one will notice. Mention KLA war crimes tribunal and Albanians need to be put in witness protection programs around the world to avoid being killed on orders fro, the indicted. Get with the times, bro.
(Donkey Hoxha, 25 January 2016 15:45)

Really? Then whats the fuss about Ivanovic?! Just another Serb Warcriminal from the 90ies. Meanwhile you should be used to it. Plus, I have never seen Kosovo Government making statetements to back up KLA Warcriminals or giving a state reception when they return let alone make a state affair out of it. But in the case of Ivanovic, there are protest, PM, VPM and President made a statement and your Government even wants to make Ivanovic a topic at Brussel talks. Why all the nation wide bitching? Get with the times, bro.

Recently I stumbled upon a video clip courtesy of CNN on the internet where somewhere in United States a white suspect made a court appearance and in the same courtroom the judge who presided was an African-American and at some point the suspect addressed or called the judge a "punkass n**ger" as he exited the courtroom I believe so if I recall correctly the judge requested the suspect's attorney to bring him back into the courtroom and after speaking to the suspect the judge held him in contempt of court by imposing 30 or 60 days in jail as a form of penalty for the suspect so what I'm trying to get at is if suppose Oliver Ivanovic was upset at the judge (who I'm assuming is an ethnic Albanian)for whatever reason and resorts to uttering an anti-Albanian epithet or derogatory slur or name calls the judge in other ways and if the judge were to consequently place him in contempt of court would people regard this as just? If some people are okay with American judges who don't tolerate name calling nor obscenities being hurled against them than why it should be any different if an Albanian judge won't tolerate similarly disrespectful suspects (no matter what the suspect's nationality or ethnicity is).

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12
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You really are a simpleton. This was explained many, many times already but some people are just too stupid to know it.

Got my popcorn ready and waiting to see who's going to be hauled off the Hague first :)
(Donkey Hoxha, 23 January 2016 18:57)

Well, next is Seselj. Cant wait to see the police drag him like a thrashbag. Oh and there are still 16 open warrants for Serb warcriminals from Interpol and another 4 have been sent to retrial in the Belgrad Chamber for Warcrimes. And "Captain Dragan" has been sent to croatia just recently. And the 3 suspects for warcrimes in Bosnia. Not to forget Borislav Paravac. Actually I could go on for quite some time, I hope you have enough popcorn to share with us because its going to be a long list. But still, this list should be much much longer.

so what I'm trying to get at is if suppose Oliver Ivanovic was upset at the judge (who I'm assuming is an ethnic Albanian)for whatever reason and resorts to uttering an anti-Albanian epithet or derogatory slur or name calls the judge in other ways and if the judge were to consequently place him in contempt of court would people regard this as just?
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 24 January 2016 18:58)

First of all, the judge wasn't Albanian, so you can throw the main part of your argument out the window. Second, the slur said in America got the person 30 - 60 days in jail. Ivanovic gets nine years. Nowhere in the article does it mention Ivanovic said anything derogatory, so there's another part of your argument that makes no sense. Third, Albanians, especially Albanian officials, are notorious for throwing out every insult, slur, and other inappropriate comment anyone's way when they're upset at something, so to think that Ivanovic got some sort of punishment because he got some Albanian judge angry is ludicrous. Did you have a point to make here or do you just type whatever comes to your mind?

The person who goes by donkey hoxha is a real donkey.
(Cry me a river, 24 January 2016 00:30)

Knowing that I piss you bumpkins off is reason enough to stick around here :*

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12)

Sadly for your Albos even though Serbs were against the US in 1999, the west has more respect for a Serbian out house than a live Albanian otherwise your lot would not be breathing, eat or living in uranium contaminated soil in Kosova.
Still have not paid for a clean-up, have they? LOL.
The west killed more of your Albos in 1999 than the Serbs through indiscriminate bombing, but the west thinks they were only Albos and very dispensable.

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.

(The Count of Kosova

I twice responded this idiotic comment but B92 Moderators considered them too cruel to be placed. Yet you don't have to tease the Russians who already seek a chance to improve our mistakes in Serbia.

Well, next is Seselj. Cant wait to see the police drag him like a thrashbag.
(Gjon Marku, 24 January 2016 23:43)

Dude, no one cares about him in Serbia anymore. He's last decade's news.

And "Captain Dragan" has been sent to croatia just recently.
(Gjon Marku, 24 January 2016 23:43)

Great! No one's protesting in the streets over him either.

See that's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serb war criminals are arrested and no one bats an eye. Albanian war criminals are arrested and mass protests follow with claims that "national heroes" are being persecuted by Greater Serbian extremism.

If Seselj is dragged back to the Hague by his balls, no one will notice. Mention KLA war crimes tribunal and Albanians need to be put in witness protection programs around the world to avoid being killed on orders fro, the indicted. Get with the times, bro.

There are no KLA war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:55)

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy. Especially since a number of KLA "heroes" already sit in jails throughout Europe. But live in your own delusions. You're clearly a clueless bloke.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions. Or, are you going to behave like your Serb compadres sj, Ari Gold, rote and the rest of your pseudo-journalist crew who get away with making all sorts of preposterous claims without any documentation and are then permitted by B92. I'm afraid it is you who lives in the heavenly dream like state of Serbdom.

@Donkey Hoxha:

What the heck is the matter with you?? Did you even bother to read my comments carefully?? I don't think you did.First of all just because I assumed the judge is an ethnic Albanian didn't mean I was certain that he or she was an ethnic Albanian,second that American judge you're referring to who imposed 30 or 60 days jail time for that defendant did so as a form of reprimand as far as I'm concerned (I doubt is was an official sentence on the judge's part),third I never said that Mr Ivanovic insulted the judge what I indicated is what if he insulted the judge and lastly what do you mean if I'm making stuff up for this article?? I'm doing nothing of the sort.

@Donkey Hoxha:

I still feel that you provided yourself a weird nickname.

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions.
(The Count of Kosova, 24 January 2016 23:04)

There's this thing called the "Internet", and on this magickal thing one can find all sort of factual information.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 25 January 2016 16:11)

Haha, this is funny... You want to assert that "The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently" but leave it to others to find the evidence supporting your assertions. What a great idea! I would also love to be able to assert whatever I want and make it the duty of others to find the evidence supporting my assertions lol

Anyway, I did use this thing called the "Internet" and did not find any sort of factual information that supports your assertions :)

Considering the crime this warcriminal is being convicted of, he got lucky with only 9 years.

The good thing is, he`s going to be imprisoned in Kosovo.

finally justice

This is not enough for such crimes this criminal committed.
All - one by one will be brought to justice but justice must me done and punishment must be to the satisfaction of the victims which in this case - life in prison. Without parole.

Thank goodness for the guilty verdict however my concern and the concern of certain others is that a 9 year prison sentence is a relatively light sentence if we think about it when it comes to ordering the unjustifiable murder of people in this case.

Great job B92! Well known politician gets sentenced to 9 years prison for war crimes and you write and article but omit the who, why, what, where and when!

Would have been nice if you detailed what the hell he did. But that might be giving the reader too much information and make the war crimes a reality. Let's quickly brush what he did under the rug...

Serbs are a very proud people ! They have demonstrated many times how a man should accept his fate on the battlefield or on Hague Calvary ! This time Serbs are not alone as Russians are by their side again. I am sure that in the fast changing world the imprisonment won't last long while many Serbs will be ready to replace their hero.

Albanians are troublemakers and playing victim all the time like some whining complexed criminals, go back to Middle East and be with your own kind!

WTF. This is ridiculous. It was proved that he was personally responsible for the death of (at least) 9 people and he got a merely years in prison!!!!
This is not justice.

So, in fact, the ruling says Ivanovic was wearing blue uniform and this must have been some kind of leader of the Serbian paramilitaries in Kosovo 1999, and thus must be seen as responsible for murders of Albanian civilians some Serb paramilitaries committed.

Hasn't been Thaci being the KLA leader, too? And he is not responsible for the numerous killings of Serbian and Albanian civilians by his KLA 'freedom fighters'?

Dwight : “Do you think that what this man and several others did was acceptable behaviour? that is, taking civilian mostly non-combatant males from their homes, murdering them and hiding the bodies.”

This I don’t know but what I do know is that on the Shqiptar side there are much bigger criminals and nobody arrests them for 16 years now. What I know is as soon as people on the peninsula start to understand one another or make an independent move the Yankees add fuel to the fire and the Shqiptars are their devoted chain dogs. What I do know is also the fact that in all those conflicts only Serbs acted in the interest of the then existing state of Yugoslavia. They defended the integrity of the state against Islamic and non-Islamic bandits. So if you judge Serbs you should be as strict to the bandits armed and instigated by the West. But today we have a Calvary of Hague where 80% of the sentenced are Serbs and 20% belong to 3 other participants of those wars the most cruel and illegal ones. As soon as Russia improves things in the ME and Ukraine it will return to the Balkans to make peace. At least because according to the scientists the cradle of the Russian R1a happlogroup is Serbia to be exact KiM …

Albanians will release him due to outside pressure only to ban him from entering Kosovo ever again. What alanians couldnt finish during the war and the following pogrom they will acheive by fabricating allegations of war crimes. Besides, threathening Europe to cancel negotiations because EU doesn't want to grant Kosovo visa liberation just shows how pathetic albanians are. All you're good at is making threats. Instead of doing what the EU requires. Then again you should get the hint that you are not wanted in Europe. Think no other people have a reputation like albanians. You're in the same cathegory as somalians and neanderthals.

Just 9, why not 99?

Well known politician gets sentenced to 9 years prison for war crimes and you write and article but omit the who, why, what, where and when!

Would have been nice if you detailed what the hell he did.
(Serbian Crusher, 21 January 2016 12:28)

Great question, since that's what everyone was asking during this trial. It's a bit difficult to describe the who, why, what, where and when, when there's little to pin on him, especially after four others, including a member of Serbia's MUP were all acquitted. It's even more difficult to provide specifics when dozens of alleged witnesses to Ivanovic's activities gave conflicting stories, contradictory statements, and accounts of events that sounded like they were paid to frame him rather than recount definitive information.

This verdict reeks of politics where the only logical reason for the conviction of Kosovo's most moderate Serbian politician - and one who speaks Albanian and has the most developed ties to Kosovo's pre-1999 Albanian political leadership - is to remove him from the scene. Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.

one less serbian terrorist on the street...lets clean kosovo from serbian terrorists

Defeating and expelling terrorist Serb and Russian war criminals from kosova was easy, educating them is proving to be rather difficult, as can be seen by the drivel written below. Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.

because serbia says Kosovo is a part of Serbia If Serbia opposed thins they would send there police to free him.

It was proved that he was personally responsible for the death of (at least) 9 people and he got a merely years in prison!!!!
This is not justice.
(Rebeli, 21 January 2016 16:14)

Of course it's not justice. It's removal of a potential liability. Especially when three others accused with him on less trumped-up charges than he all get acquitted.

Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 January 2016 20:25)

Three out of four were acquitted. Tell me again about these mass arrests and convictions. Especially when the KLA war crimes tribunal is about to start in the The Hague. Tell me more about the "drivel" you read below. And try no to sound like an idiot while doing it.

...This verdict reeks of politics where the only logical reason for the conviction of Kosovo's most moderate Serbian politician - and one who speaks Albanian and has the most developed ties to Kosovo's pre-1999 Albanian political leadership - is to remove him from the scene. Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 21 January 2016 14:54)...

I have to agree with you on this one.
But I don't think Kosovo was behind his arrest because has nothing to gain.
I think his arrest and subsequent his removal from politics was made by EU with request from Serbia and Kosovo Serbs.

same cathegory as somalians and neanderthals.
(MikeC, 22 January 2016 23:19)

Maybe, but still one category better than Serbs. The 90ies are not a farytail, the world remembers.

The 90ies are not a farytail, the world remembers.
(Gjon Marku, 23 January 2016 00:55)

The world's moved on. We're now having fun laughing at the antics of people like Albanians. Well, the exponentially small fraction of the world that gives a damn to figure out who the Hell you are. As for Serbs, the '90s are over. For you Albanians, perpetually 20 years behind everyone else, the '90s are just beginning.

Got my popcorn ready and waiting to see who's going to be hauled off the Hague first :)

And equally excited to see you bitch and moan about it while still thinking you're the victim because you're stuck in a timewarp down in that armpit you call "Gjakova"

Expect more arrests and convictions of the yet to be apprehended Serb war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 January 2016 20:25)

Three out of four were acquitted. Tell me again about these mass arrests and convictions. Especially when the KLA war crimes tribunal is about to start in the The Hague. Tell me more about the "drivel" you read below. And try no to sound like an idiot while doing it.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 23 January 2016 06:36)

Be attentive, rather than run your mouth needlessly, and you will see. There are outstanding warrants for arrest of many Serb war criminals still at large. After the Serb elections you will see many Serb war criminals lose their immunity and be arrested, as was Ivanovic.

p.s.
The KLA war crimes tribunal is moot, it is being formed only to appease the many disillusioned Serbs. There are no KLA war criminals.

Well, next is Seselj. Cant wait to see the police drag him like a thrashbag.
(Gjon Marku, 24 January 2016 23:43)

Dude, no one cares about him in Serbia anymore. He's last decade's news.

And "Captain Dragan" has been sent to croatia just recently.
(Gjon Marku, 24 January 2016 23:43)

Great! No one's protesting in the streets over him either.

See that's the difference between Serbs and Albanians. Serb war criminals are arrested and no one bats an eye. Albanian war criminals are arrested and mass protests follow with claims that "national heroes" are being persecuted by Greater Serbian extremism.

If Seselj is dragged back to the Hague by his balls, no one will notice. Mention KLA war crimes tribunal and Albanians need to be put in witness protection programs around the world to avoid being killed on orders fro, the indicted. Get with the times, bro.

Just 9, why not 99?
(Avni, 21 January 2016 21:17)

Just 9? Why not 5.56 NATO?!

This time Serbs are not alone as Russians are by their side again.
(rote, 21 January 2016 16:32)


Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.

The person who goes by donkey hoxha is a real donkey.

Balkan Anthropologist: "whether Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict". I may be misunderstanding the process here, but I was unaware that Serbia had been found guilty of anything. Isn't it for Mr Ivanovic to appeal this verdict? On what basis would a country seek to appeal an individual's conviction? Did you mean whether they would protest against the verdict or do they really have a legal right to appeal?

I am sure that in the fast changing world the imprisonment won't last long while many Serbs will be ready to replace their hero.
(rote, 21 January 2016 16:32)
2 questions for you:
Do you think that what this man and several others did was acceptable behaviour? that is, taking civilian mostly non-combatant males from their homes, murdering them and hiding the bodies.

If Ukrainian soldiers entered a village in E.Ukraine and took 50 ethnic-Russian civilians from their houses and shot them, you would also think that was acceptable?

"on the Shqiptar side there are much bigger criminals "
There may well be such people, collect your evidence and make your case.
I don't judge Serbs but I do judge bandits and there are plenty of Albanians who deserve to be in a cell too.


and defending the integrity of the state is most important?
Are the Russian soldiers in the state of Ukraine non-Islamic bandits or Islamic bandits"?

"What I do know is also the fact that in all those conflicts only Serbs acted in the interest of the then existing state of Yugoslavia"
LOL, its all ok then. Why do you keep moaning about Ukrainians protecting their state. What about Crimea
WOuld you forgive your childs murderer if he told you he did it in the interest of Russia/Ukraine/Serbia or some other state.


"80% of the sentenced are Serbs and 20% belong to 3 other participants of those wars"
This is just numbers that you made up. If you must know the accused numbers are 60:40.

Yankees add fuel to the fire/ As soon as Russia improves thing
LOL

R1a happlogroup ?
LOL one of your ancestors from 20000 years ago was from KiM so you get the land? You have a screw loose.

Your post is so full of inaccuracies, mistruths and bull that I don't have time to refute them all.

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.

(The Count of Kosova

I twice responded this idiotic comment but B92 Moderators considered them too cruel to be placed. Yet you don't have to tease the Russians who already seek a chance to improve our mistakes in Serbia.

I think his arrest and subsequent his removal from politics was made by EU with request from Serbia and Kosovo Serbs.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 21 January 2016 16:19)

I may have to agree with you here on this one.

so what I'm trying to get at is if suppose Oliver Ivanovic was upset at the judge (who I'm assuming is an ethnic Albanian)for whatever reason and resorts to uttering an anti-Albanian epithet or derogatory slur or name calls the judge in other ways and if the judge were to consequently place him in contempt of court would people regard this as just?
(resident of Fredericton,New Brunswick,Canada, 24 January 2016 18:58)

First of all, the judge wasn't Albanian, so you can throw the main part of your argument out the window. Second, the slur said in America got the person 30 - 60 days in jail. Ivanovic gets nine years. Nowhere in the article does it mention Ivanovic said anything derogatory, so there's another part of your argument that makes no sense. Third, Albanians, especially Albanian officials, are notorious for throwing out every insult, slur, and other inappropriate comment anyone's way when they're upset at something, so to think that Ivanovic got some sort of punishment because he got some Albanian judge angry is ludicrous. Did you have a point to make here or do you just type whatever comes to your mind?

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions.
(The Count of Kosova, 24 January 2016 23:04)

There's this thing called the "Internet", and on this magickal thing one can find all sort of factual information. Regarding your pathetic attempt at questioning the merits of KLA war crimes, you can find all sorts of documentation from the UN, the EU, various human rights groups, investigative journalism, and the actions of Kosovo's own government in voting for the tribunal as evidence. You'll have to read things that aren't published on radical nationalist Albanian news portals, so you may be in for a shock.

It's bad enough your points make no sense. Don't compound your idiocy by asking for information you know is out there and you can find yourself.

If Seselj is dragged back to the Hague by his balls, no one will notice. Mention KLA war crimes tribunal and Albanians need to be put in witness protection programs around the world to avoid being killed on orders fro, the indicted. Get with the times, bro.
(Donkey Hoxha, 25 January 2016 15:45)

Really? Then whats the fuss about Ivanovic?! Just another Serb Warcriminal from the 90ies. Meanwhile you should be used to it. Plus, I have never seen Kosovo Government making statetements to back up KLA Warcriminals or giving a state reception when they return let alone make a state affair out of it. But in the case of Ivanovic, there are protest, PM, VPM and President made a statement and your Government even wants to make Ivanovic a topic at Brussel talks. Why all the nation wide bitching? Get with the times, bro.

I don't think he was the master-mind of the killings but I am sure he knows who are the real perpetrators but I doubt he is gonna rat them out. I mean at the end somebody killed the Albanians its not like they killed themselves right ?!
Somebody must be punished for this crime, I just hope they get the real criminals.

There are no KLA war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:55)

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy. Especially since a number of KLA "heroes" already sit in jails throughout Europe. But live in your own delusions. You're clearly a clueless bloke.

The person who goes by donkey hoxha is a real donkey.
(Cry me a river, 24 January 2016 00:30)

Knowing that I piss you bumpkins off is reason enough to stick around here :*

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12)

Sadly for your Albos even though Serbs were against the US in 1999, the west has more respect for a Serbian out house than a live Albanian otherwise your lot would not be breathing, eat or living in uranium contaminated soil in Kosova.
Still have not paid for a clean-up, have they? LOL.
The west killed more of your Albos in 1999 than the Serbs through indiscriminate bombing, but the west thinks they were only Albos and very dispensable.

Did you mean whether they would protest against the verdict or do they really have a legal right to appeal?
(ned taylor, 21 January 2016 20:38)

Yes. I didn't think this needed to be spelled out, but yes.

There are no KLA war criminals.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:55)

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy. Especially since a number of KLA "heroes" already sit in jails throughout Europe. But live in your own delusions. You're clearly a clueless bloke.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions. Or, are you going to behave like your Serb compadres sj, Ari Gold, rote and the rest of your pseudo-journalist crew who get away with making all sorts of preposterous claims without any documentation and are then permitted by B92. I'm afraid it is you who lives in the heavenly dream like state of Serbdom.

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12
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You really are a simpleton. This was explained many, many times already but some people are just too stupid to know it.

Got my popcorn ready and waiting to see who's going to be hauled off the Hague first :)
(Donkey Hoxha, 23 January 2016 18:57)

Well, next is Seselj. Cant wait to see the police drag him like a thrashbag. Oh and there are still 16 open warrants for Serb warcriminals from Interpol and another 4 have been sent to retrial in the Belgrad Chamber for Warcrimes. And "Captain Dragan" has been sent to croatia just recently. And the 3 suspects for warcrimes in Bosnia. Not to forget Borislav Paravac. Actually I could go on for quite some time, I hope you have enough popcorn to share with us because its going to be a long list. But still, this list should be much much longer.

Yeah right! Just as the Russians stood by, with their finger up their ass, the side of the Serbs in 1999 and watched Serbia get bombed for 78 days.
(The Count of Kosova, 23 January 2016 22:12
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You really are a simpleton. This was explained many, many times already but some people are just too stupid to know it.
(Peggy, 24 January 2016 23:12)

Yeah, exactly, I'm not sure why people continue to being that up as if it were some sort of news! Russia is known to support Serbia with words, not actions...

@Donkey Hoxha:

I still feel that you provided yourself a weird nickname.

Recently I stumbled upon a video clip courtesy of CNN on the internet where somewhere in United States a white suspect made a court appearance and in the same courtroom the judge who presided was an African-American and at some point the suspect addressed or called the judge a "punkass n**ger" as he exited the courtroom I believe so if I recall correctly the judge requested the suspect's attorney to bring him back into the courtroom and after speaking to the suspect the judge held him in contempt of court by imposing 30 or 60 days in jail as a form of penalty for the suspect so what I'm trying to get at is if suppose Oliver Ivanovic was upset at the judge (who I'm assuming is an ethnic Albanian)for whatever reason and resorts to uttering an anti-Albanian epithet or derogatory slur or name calls the judge in other ways and if the judge were to consequently place him in contempt of court would people regard this as just? If some people are okay with American judges who don't tolerate name calling nor obscenities being hurled against them than why it should be any different if an Albanian judge won't tolerate similarly disrespectful suspects (no matter what the suspect's nationality or ethnicity is).

@Donkey Hoxha:

What the heck is the matter with you?? Did you even bother to read my comments carefully?? I don't think you did.First of all just because I assumed the judge is an ethnic Albanian didn't mean I was certain that he or she was an ethnic Albanian,second that American judge you're referring to who imposed 30 or 60 days jail time for that defendant did so as a form of reprimand as far as I'm concerned (I doubt is was an official sentence on the judge's part),third I never said that Mr Ivanovic insulted the judge what I indicated is what if he insulted the judge and lastly what do you mean if I'm making stuff up for this article?? I'm doing nothing of the sort.

Whether it suits Pristina's or Belgrade's interest more will be seen in whether or not Serbia seeks an appeal of the verdict.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 21 January 2016 14:54)

Serbia can not seek appeal just FYI!

He is would not bend to SNS so he was sacrificed as lubricant for KLS trials.

The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently, buddy.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 24 January 2016 05:35)

Please provide some evidence to back up your assertions.
(The Count of Kosova, 24 January 2016 23:04)

There's this thing called the "Internet", and on this magickal thing one can find all sort of factual information.
(The Idiot of Illyria, 25 January 2016 16:11)

Haha, this is funny... You want to assert that "The EU, the UN, and the world thinks differently" but leave it to others to find the evidence supporting your assertions. What a great idea! I would also love to be able to assert whatever I want and make it the duty of others to find the evidence supporting my assertions lol

Anyway, I did use this thing called the "Internet" and did not find any sort of factual information that supports your assertions :)