RE: In pursuing Bob Dylan for hate speech, Croatian Group denies Holocaust
It seems Croatia has a hard time attracting stars due to it's more than "checkered" holocaust background
“The United States burned and destroyed itself for the sake of slavery. The USA wouldn’t give it up. It had to be grinded out. The whole system had to be ripped out with force. A lot of killing. What, like, 500,000 people? A lot of destruction to end slavery. And that’s what it really was all about. This country is just too f–ked up about color. It’s a distraction. People at each other’s throats just because they are of a different color. It’s the height of insanity, and it will hold any nation back – or any neighborhood back. Or any anything back. Blacks know that some whites didn’t want to give up slavery – that if they had their way, they would still be under the yoke, and they can’t pretend they don’t know that. If you got a slave master or Klan in your blood, blacks can sense that. That stuff lingers to this day. Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood.”
Read more: http://forward.com/culture/188725/in-pursuing-bob-dylan-for-hate-speech-croatian-gro/#ixzz3xFOsuOlI
RE: Newsweek-The Kosovo Cover Up
Clinton's General Wesley Clark
"In fact--as some critics suspected at the time--the air campaign against the Serb military in Kosovo was largely ineffective. NATO bombs plowed up some fields, blew up hundreds of cars, trucks and decoys, and barely dented Serb artillery and armor. According to a suppressed Air Force report obtained by NEWSWEEK, the number of targets verifiably destroyed was a tiny fraction of those claimed: 14 tanks, not 120; 18 armored personnel carriers, not 220; 20 artillery pieces, not 450. Out of the 744 "confirmed" strikes by NATO pilots during the war, the Air Force investigators, who spent weeks combing Kosovo by helicopter and by foot, found evidence of just 58."
"At the end of the war the Serbs' ground commander, Gen. Nobojsa Pavkovic, claimed to have lost only 13 tanks. "Serb disinformation," scoffed Clark. But quietly, Clark's own staff told him the Serb general might be right. "We need to get to the bottom of this," Clark said. So at the end of June, Clark dispatched a team into Kosovo to do an on-the-ground survey.
"Against military targets, high-altitude bombing is overrated. Any commander in chief who does not face up to those hard realities will be fooling himself."
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys. Deny whats up with all that anger we are still listening spill the beans. Remember you are half Croatian at least you have something good. Well Deny maybe not but movies documentary's reminds the world what despicable people Serbs were. You know those https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3GaDMYDw6A reruns over and over for decades unless more movies come out. Like the last movie one Jolly's and Brad Pit. Serbs being fascist rapist, murders, destroyers all in all not being a horrible terrible people. It says movies usually reflect true to life.
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
(icj1, 14 January 2016 14:43)
"loose" and "loser" are two different words, learn how to spell please, it diminishes what little voracity your comments have.
The Perfumed Prince and Other Political Tales
by John Chuckman, Dissident Voice, September 6, 2003
His lack of judgment demonstrated in Serbia - including an order to clear out Russian forces that British general, Sir Michael Jackson, had to ignore for fear of starting World War III -
Citizen Clark? Or, Why Electing a Mass Murderer Is a Really Bad Idea
by Nebojsa Malic, AntiWar.com, September 18, 2003
It's as if everyone has forgotten Wesley Clark was the Bomber of Belgrade, the highest-ranking military official in a cabal that systematically violated international law, the NATO Charter (and with it the US Constitution, Article 6, Section 2) and committed the greatest crime under the Nuremburg principles: that against peace.
* How a Notorious Serb General Outfoxed Wesley Clark
Pacific News Service, Sep 23, 2003 (posted 10/14)
In August 1994, during the height of the Bosnian civil war, Clark came to Banja Luka, met a Serb general and ended up looking like a perfect chump. The Serb, Ratko Mladic, suckered Clark into exchanging hats and posing for pictures.
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
I agree with you here since what you wrote means that Kosovo is not guilty of the criminal allegations being made similarly to Clinton who was found not guilty of the crimes alleged in the impeachment.
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Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
Facbricated...?! Evreything has a reason and who`s free of guilt shall return.
Peggy
Its alright dear. I know who he is and what he as done for Russia and Serbia. Besides his public display of love for both countries, he`s done absolutely nothing. nada. nichts. nünt. kurgjo. ничего. ništa.
To be honest, even I know (good) peopel IN Serbia who have done way more for the country and they never got on TV with the PM praising them. Think about it.
gjon if u want to get nasty, sweet,LOL. we have our heroes, one of them is the reason you can see yourself in the mirror at night before you walk past the toothbrush and paste that's been sitting there since 1986. tell me is it a collective thought not to brush your teeth in albania, or does it make you more Illyrian, sorry Spartan?
we also have our heroes that fought the Nazi regime, what about you? We also have the best Tennis player in the world, the number one Water-polo team and world champions, Our heroes also came second in the Basketball world cup last year. Oh yeah the women won the euros. Oh and we became the u19 world champs at football beating Brazil of all countries to the throne.....
Dude I could go on and on and on, but I would like to hear about yours, where are they?
Selling drugs on some German or Dutch street corner? Who and where are they? And bill Clinton doesn't count.....oh I remember, rita ora sleeping her way past every producer LOL.
Dude if you wanna annoy someone at least have an argument.
Dear gjon,
contrary to fabricated fiction, those monasteries do not belong to you and they never will. Burning them down clearly proves that.
And don't wait for some apology that will never come.
As it stands now you don't have a little country of yours, you really don't you just don't get it.
The americans stole it from Serbia using you guys as proxy fighters, and until they needed you, you guys were classed as terrorists.
So neither one is in control, but things change over time and when it becomes beneficial for someone else to exercise some influence in the region, they will change again.
You guys are nomads, you will move to wherever it is better than albania, Kosovo was that until you guys came along and settled there.
Now it's on to Germany. I wonder are you going to claim part of their country as well? If you were in the majority of course you would, then those Gothic Lutheran churches would be part of your heritage as well, right?
And talking about monsters, have you seen what is happening in your parliament? Of course not, you're just the nice tooth fairy.
You talk about being conflicted, ha, your people have a history of being pawns of evil empires, Nazis, Nato, Ottoman, Venetian etc. and you're proud of it.
Dude, good luck because in the future, just like Bosnia I don't see western people caring so much when their faced with Nuclear war, definitely not over us, believe me.
besides even the west is waking up, at least the normal people there.
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys....and???
they did the same with the Indians.
You know what else Hollywood screens show? Superman and Batman and Spiderman and green little martians and fairies as well dude, go check it out, you'll love it.
But you know, Hollywood also shows a whole lot of Criminal Albanian characters as well, must be true then right? Taken, those evil men doing that to the girls they abducted, scum.
Buddy go back to your beer, I don't often sling insults at people, but you have the intellect of a 4 year old and the rotten attitude to boot.
I feel for you, cause you can see it's not going to get better.
On another point Steven Seagal is actually a really decent dude, that tries to live by example. Sure his movies were mostly rubbish, even he knows that(except for 2).
But his actual life is to be commended. He makes just enough for what he needs and then leaves it.
He is not of the Clooney, Pitt, Jolie etc type pretending to care and thinking their king$hit. But not making a single difference.
He is actually the guardian and chaperone of a real life princess.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26
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How huge was this ceremony? Was their fireworks? Was there a huge gale with all the dignitaries attending or was hit just a photo taken with some press in attendance and not much more?
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
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Gjon, you obviously don't understand what I was saying but I really can't be bothered explaining it to you.
Steven on the other hand didn't just accept to be nice. Do you know anything about him at all? His love for Russia and Serbia is well known. He won't be using the passport to travel. It wasn't meant for that because it wasn't givin for that reason. It is a symbol but a simpleton like you just doesn't get any of it.
As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 21:23)
Ooh tough guy. What are you going to do? Hurl eggs and your fecal matter at them? Sorry buddy. No one gives a damn about the bug up your ass from almost 20 years ago. Serbs can come back everywhere except Djakovica? And you expect an apology? Yeah, you're the one with the problem, not them. Especially when you need to whine like a little bitch in the comment section of an article about something totally unrelated and then jerk off to one of the funniest assessments of Bill Clinton I've ever read. If you're trying to sound like you're angry, it failed because you're hilarious. You take yourself and your fabricated victimhood way to seriously.
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
(the truth, 13 January 2016 18:30)
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I see staying on topic is not your strong suit.
Can you see travelling with US passport without visa to Australia? What does this have to do with Steven getting a Serbian citizenship and passport? He is obviously very happy to get it.
They should offer the same to Charles Cather. He is doing a lot for Serbia.
Now he can visit North Korea, Cuba, Russia ,Byelorussia and forgettable Serbia with out problems one unlucky dude. I think he got to many judo chops to the head his wiring got all messed. Yes Paul dozens of movies came from Hollywood and Europe about war criminal Serb traditions. Big screen world fame just follows the Serbs. Nikolic has to give him the dis-order of Serbia and Irenja some trinket to be a heavenly Serb.
One of the sleaziest things I've seen in the movie industry for a long time was the way writers and producers were crawling all over themselves putting out movies casting Serbs as the most odious villains and criminals. It was pathetic and it is very refreshing to see somebody, anybody, in the US entertainment industry showing enthusiasm for our Slavic friends in Serbia and Russia.
You may laugh at Seagal's movie career, but such things are not easy to come by for everyone.
He's at least as good as Schwarzenegger and that's nothing to brag about.
I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26)
I`ve seen you repeating this phrase in different posts and I keep wondering... why? No one has ever claimed these monasteries. The monasteries are part of Kosovo cultural heritage, just like catholic churches and mosques. I`m catholic and i consider the heritage of all 3 faiths as our cultural heritage. Actually I`m proud to have such a diverse culture.
Sure I have mixed opinions about serbs and I like to mock them here on B92 but I see that every minority in Kosovo needs to have equal rights. After all, I dont want to become the monster we once defeated with the help of Nato.
Except of my beautiful Gjakova, I believe that KSerbs should be able to return to our beautiful country and their homes. I recognise that its heir home too. Who am I to refuse that right? As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
However, independence is not negotiable. If serbs are willing to integrate and contribute to our new country I`m willing to accept their apology.
To the truth( more like lies),
To Australia and USA ,all other passport holder need visa!!!
I travelled to USA,with Australian Passport and need a 2 year travel Visa!
My cousin came to Australia, with USA passport, needed a travel Visa!
You are more "like the Lies".
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States. The FBI who is now investigating Hilary Clinton linking corporate donations to the Clinton foundation including many Albanian criminal organizations. Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999. Clark sits as a Board Member in a Canadian Albanian Oil Company and is running it to the ground with low quality Albanian oil, the stock is tanking.
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
There should be a George Bush Jr. statue in Pristina with Albanian Islamic Turkish Gypsies stealing his watch. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9cc_1425210317
@Gjon Marku, is that why you albanins have a statue of Clinton in pristina?Talk about pathetic ;-)
(So sad, too bad, 13 January 2016 11:49)
The Clinton statue is not about some needed hero, but about some needed cultural heritage in Kosovo - I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
es, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 13:19)
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
@So sad, too bad
Yes, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
You on the other hand, got yourself a fat outdated action star. His life and mediocre career is based on the very limited ability to deceive an audience and pose as something far from reality. Just another 90ies actor who still holds onto an image that doesnt exist anymore.
Now that I think about it, maybe he is the perfect hero for you. So 90ies and irrelevant. Perfect match.
A country desperatly in need of heroes. Pathetic.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 10:32)
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Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
A country desperatly in need of heroes. Pathetic.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 10:32)
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Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
There should be a George Bush Jr. statue in Pristina with Albanian Islamic Turkish Gypsies stealing his watch. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9cc_1425210317
es, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 13:19)
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
@So sad, too bad
Yes, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
You on the other hand, got yourself a fat outdated action star. His life and mediocre career is based on the very limited ability to deceive an audience and pose as something far from reality. Just another 90ies actor who still holds onto an image that doesnt exist anymore.
Now that I think about it, maybe he is the perfect hero for you. So 90ies and irrelevant. Perfect match.
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States. The FBI who is now investigating Hilary Clinton linking corporate donations to the Clinton foundation including many Albanian criminal organizations. Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999. Clark sits as a Board Member in a Canadian Albanian Oil Company and is running it to the ground with low quality Albanian oil, the stock is tanking.
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
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Gjon, you obviously don't understand what I was saying but I really can't be bothered explaining it to you.
Steven on the other hand didn't just accept to be nice. Do you know anything about him at all? His love for Russia and Serbia is well known. He won't be using the passport to travel. It wasn't meant for that because it wasn't givin for that reason. It is a symbol but a simpleton like you just doesn't get any of it.
To the truth( more like lies),
To Australia and USA ,all other passport holder need visa!!!
I travelled to USA,with Australian Passport and need a 2 year travel Visa!
My cousin came to Australia, with USA passport, needed a travel Visa!
You are more "like the Lies".
As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 21:23)
Ooh tough guy. What are you going to do? Hurl eggs and your fecal matter at them? Sorry buddy. No one gives a damn about the bug up your ass from almost 20 years ago. Serbs can come back everywhere except Djakovica? And you expect an apology? Yeah, you're the one with the problem, not them. Especially when you need to whine like a little bitch in the comment section of an article about something totally unrelated and then jerk off to one of the funniest assessments of Bill Clinton I've ever read. If you're trying to sound like you're angry, it failed because you're hilarious. You take yourself and your fabricated victimhood way to seriously.
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
(the truth, 13 January 2016 18:30)
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I see staying on topic is not your strong suit.
Can you see travelling with US passport without visa to Australia? What does this have to do with Steven getting a Serbian citizenship and passport? He is obviously very happy to get it.
They should offer the same to Charles Cather. He is doing a lot for Serbia.
I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26)
I`ve seen you repeating this phrase in different posts and I keep wondering... why? No one has ever claimed these monasteries. The monasteries are part of Kosovo cultural heritage, just like catholic churches and mosques. I`m catholic and i consider the heritage of all 3 faiths as our cultural heritage. Actually I`m proud to have such a diverse culture.
Sure I have mixed opinions about serbs and I like to mock them here on B92 but I see that every minority in Kosovo needs to have equal rights. After all, I dont want to become the monster we once defeated with the help of Nato.
Except of my beautiful Gjakova, I believe that KSerbs should be able to return to our beautiful country and their homes. I recognise that its heir home too. Who am I to refuse that right? As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
However, independence is not negotiable. If serbs are willing to integrate and contribute to our new country I`m willing to accept their apology.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26
========================
How huge was this ceremony? Was their fireworks? Was there a huge gale with all the dignitaries attending or was hit just a photo taken with some press in attendance and not much more?
One of the sleaziest things I've seen in the movie industry for a long time was the way writers and producers were crawling all over themselves putting out movies casting Serbs as the most odious villains and criminals. It was pathetic and it is very refreshing to see somebody, anybody, in the US entertainment industry showing enthusiasm for our Slavic friends in Serbia and Russia.
You may laugh at Seagal's movie career, but such things are not easy to come by for everyone.
He's at least as good as Schwarzenegger and that's nothing to brag about.
Now he can visit North Korea, Cuba, Russia ,Byelorussia and forgettable Serbia with out problems one unlucky dude. I think he got to many judo chops to the head his wiring got all messed. Yes Paul dozens of movies came from Hollywood and Europe about war criminal Serb traditions. Big screen world fame just follows the Serbs. Nikolic has to give him the dis-order of Serbia and Irenja some trinket to be a heavenly Serb.
Facbricated...?! Evreything has a reason and who`s free of guilt shall return.
Peggy
Its alright dear. I know who he is and what he as done for Russia and Serbia. Besides his public display of love for both countries, he`s done absolutely nothing. nada. nichts. nünt. kurgjo. ничего. ništa.
To be honest, even I know (good) peopel IN Serbia who have done way more for the country and they never got on TV with the PM praising them. Think about it.
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
I agree with you here since what you wrote means that Kosovo is not guilty of the criminal allegations being made similarly to Clinton who was found not guilty of the crimes alleged in the impeachment.
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Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
@Gjon Marku, is that why you albanins have a statue of Clinton in pristina?Talk about pathetic ;-)
(So sad, too bad, 13 January 2016 11:49)
The Clinton statue is not about some needed hero, but about some needed cultural heritage in Kosovo - I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
(icj1, 14 January 2016 14:43)
"loose" and "loser" are two different words, learn how to spell please, it diminishes what little voracity your comments have.
The Perfumed Prince and Other Political Tales
by John Chuckman, Dissident Voice, September 6, 2003
His lack of judgment demonstrated in Serbia - including an order to clear out Russian forces that British general, Sir Michael Jackson, had to ignore for fear of starting World War III -
Citizen Clark? Or, Why Electing a Mass Murderer Is a Really Bad Idea
by Nebojsa Malic, AntiWar.com, September 18, 2003
It's as if everyone has forgotten Wesley Clark was the Bomber of Belgrade, the highest-ranking military official in a cabal that systematically violated international law, the NATO Charter (and with it the US Constitution, Article 6, Section 2) and committed the greatest crime under the Nuremburg principles: that against peace.
* How a Notorious Serb General Outfoxed Wesley Clark
Pacific News Service, Sep 23, 2003 (posted 10/14)
In August 1994, during the height of the Bosnian civil war, Clark came to Banja Luka, met a Serb general and ended up looking like a perfect chump. The Serb, Ratko Mladic, suckered Clark into exchanging hats and posing for pictures.
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys. Deny whats up with all that anger we are still listening spill the beans. Remember you are half Croatian at least you have something good. Well Deny maybe not but movies documentary's reminds the world what despicable people Serbs were. You know those https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3GaDMYDw6A reruns over and over for decades unless more movies come out. Like the last movie one Jolly's and Brad Pit. Serbs being fascist rapist, murders, destroyers all in all not being a horrible terrible people. It says movies usually reflect true to life.
RE: Newsweek-The Kosovo Cover Up
Clinton's General Wesley Clark
"In fact--as some critics suspected at the time--the air campaign against the Serb military in Kosovo was largely ineffective. NATO bombs plowed up some fields, blew up hundreds of cars, trucks and decoys, and barely dented Serb artillery and armor. According to a suppressed Air Force report obtained by NEWSWEEK, the number of targets verifiably destroyed was a tiny fraction of those claimed: 14 tanks, not 120; 18 armored personnel carriers, not 220; 20 artillery pieces, not 450. Out of the 744 "confirmed" strikes by NATO pilots during the war, the Air Force investigators, who spent weeks combing Kosovo by helicopter and by foot, found evidence of just 58."
"At the end of the war the Serbs' ground commander, Gen. Nobojsa Pavkovic, claimed to have lost only 13 tanks. "Serb disinformation," scoffed Clark. But quietly, Clark's own staff told him the Serb general might be right. "We need to get to the bottom of this," Clark said. So at the end of June, Clark dispatched a team into Kosovo to do an on-the-ground survey.
"Against military targets, high-altitude bombing is overrated. Any commander in chief who does not face up to those hard realities will be fooling himself."
Dear gjon,
contrary to fabricated fiction, those monasteries do not belong to you and they never will. Burning them down clearly proves that.
And don't wait for some apology that will never come.
As it stands now you don't have a little country of yours, you really don't you just don't get it.
The americans stole it from Serbia using you guys as proxy fighters, and until they needed you, you guys were classed as terrorists.
So neither one is in control, but things change over time and when it becomes beneficial for someone else to exercise some influence in the region, they will change again.
You guys are nomads, you will move to wherever it is better than albania, Kosovo was that until you guys came along and settled there.
Now it's on to Germany. I wonder are you going to claim part of their country as well? If you were in the majority of course you would, then those Gothic Lutheran churches would be part of your heritage as well, right?
And talking about monsters, have you seen what is happening in your parliament? Of course not, you're just the nice tooth fairy.
You talk about being conflicted, ha, your people have a history of being pawns of evil empires, Nazis, Nato, Ottoman, Venetian etc. and you're proud of it.
Dude, good luck because in the future, just like Bosnia I don't see western people caring so much when their faced with Nuclear war, definitely not over us, believe me.
besides even the west is waking up, at least the normal people there.
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys....and???
they did the same with the Indians.
You know what else Hollywood screens show? Superman and Batman and Spiderman and green little martians and fairies as well dude, go check it out, you'll love it.
But you know, Hollywood also shows a whole lot of Criminal Albanian characters as well, must be true then right? Taken, those evil men doing that to the girls they abducted, scum.
Buddy go back to your beer, I don't often sling insults at people, but you have the intellect of a 4 year old and the rotten attitude to boot.
I feel for you, cause you can see it's not going to get better.
On another point Steven Seagal is actually a really decent dude, that tries to live by example. Sure his movies were mostly rubbish, even he knows that(except for 2).
But his actual life is to be commended. He makes just enough for what he needs and then leaves it.
He is not of the Clooney, Pitt, Jolie etc type pretending to care and thinking their king$hit. But not making a single difference.
He is actually the guardian and chaperone of a real life princess.
gjon if u want to get nasty, sweet,LOL. we have our heroes, one of them is the reason you can see yourself in the mirror at night before you walk past the toothbrush and paste that's been sitting there since 1986. tell me is it a collective thought not to brush your teeth in albania, or does it make you more Illyrian, sorry Spartan?
we also have our heroes that fought the Nazi regime, what about you? We also have the best Tennis player in the world, the number one Water-polo team and world champions, Our heroes also came second in the Basketball world cup last year. Oh yeah the women won the euros. Oh and we became the u19 world champs at football beating Brazil of all countries to the throne.....
Dude I could go on and on and on, but I would like to hear about yours, where are they?
Selling drugs on some German or Dutch street corner? Who and where are they? And bill Clinton doesn't count.....oh I remember, rita ora sleeping her way past every producer LOL.
Dude if you wanna annoy someone at least have an argument.
RE: In pursuing Bob Dylan for hate speech, Croatian Group denies Holocaust
It seems Croatia has a hard time attracting stars due to it's more than "checkered" holocaust background
“The United States burned and destroyed itself for the sake of slavery. The USA wouldn’t give it up. It had to be grinded out. The whole system had to be ripped out with force. A lot of killing. What, like, 500,000 people? A lot of destruction to end slavery. And that’s what it really was all about. This country is just too f–ked up about color. It’s a distraction. People at each other’s throats just because they are of a different color. It’s the height of insanity, and it will hold any nation back – or any neighborhood back. Or any anything back. Blacks know that some whites didn’t want to give up slavery – that if they had their way, they would still be under the yoke, and they can’t pretend they don’t know that. If you got a slave master or Klan in your blood, blacks can sense that. That stuff lingers to this day. Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood.”
Read more: http://forward.com/culture/188725/in-pursuing-bob-dylan-for-hate-speech-croatian-gro/#ixzz3xFOsuOlI
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
@So sad, too bad
Yes, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
You on the other hand, got yourself a fat outdated action star. His life and mediocre career is based on the very limited ability to deceive an audience and pose as something far from reality. Just another 90ies actor who still holds onto an image that doesnt exist anymore.
Now that I think about it, maybe he is the perfect hero for you. So 90ies and irrelevant. Perfect match.
A country desperatly in need of heroes. Pathetic.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 10:32)
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Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
es, we have a Statue of Bill Clinton, because he is fucking awsome and deliverd us from evil. We celebrate him as a great liberator and defender of the good people of Kosovo against rapists and massmurderer. He was Pres. of USA and he remains one of the most influential persons on this beautiful planet we call earth.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 13:19)
Now he can visit North Korea, Cuba, Russia ,Byelorussia and forgettable Serbia with out problems one unlucky dude. I think he got to many judo chops to the head his wiring got all messed. Yes Paul dozens of movies came from Hollywood and Europe about war criminal Serb traditions. Big screen world fame just follows the Serbs. Nikolic has to give him the dis-order of Serbia and Irenja some trinket to be a heavenly Serb.
I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26)
I`ve seen you repeating this phrase in different posts and I keep wondering... why? No one has ever claimed these monasteries. The monasteries are part of Kosovo cultural heritage, just like catholic churches and mosques. I`m catholic and i consider the heritage of all 3 faiths as our cultural heritage. Actually I`m proud to have such a diverse culture.
Sure I have mixed opinions about serbs and I like to mock them here on B92 but I see that every minority in Kosovo needs to have equal rights. After all, I dont want to become the monster we once defeated with the help of Nato.
Except of my beautiful Gjakova, I believe that KSerbs should be able to return to our beautiful country and their homes. I recognise that its heir home too. Who am I to refuse that right? As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
However, independence is not negotiable. If serbs are willing to integrate and contribute to our new country I`m willing to accept their apology.
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
There should be a George Bush Jr. statue in Pristina with Albanian Islamic Turkish Gypsies stealing his watch. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9cc_1425210317
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
I agree with you here since what you wrote means that Kosovo is not guilty of the criminal allegations being made similarly to Clinton who was found not guilty of the crimes alleged in the impeachment.
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Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999.
(Jugoslavija, 13 January 2016 19:19)
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
@Gjon Marku, is that why you albanins have a statue of Clinton in pristina?Talk about pathetic ;-)
(So sad, too bad, 13 January 2016 11:49)
The Clinton statue is not about some needed hero, but about some needed cultural heritage in Kosovo - I mean beside the Orthodox monasteries the proud Kosovars claim to be 'their' cultural heritage.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
One of the sleaziest things I've seen in the movie industry for a long time was the way writers and producers were crawling all over themselves putting out movies casting Serbs as the most odious villains and criminals. It was pathetic and it is very refreshing to see somebody, anybody, in the US entertainment industry showing enthusiasm for our Slavic friends in Serbia and Russia.
You may laugh at Seagal's movie career, but such things are not easy to come by for everyone.
He's at least as good as Schwarzenegger and that's nothing to brag about.
Dear gjon,
contrary to fabricated fiction, those monasteries do not belong to you and they never will. Burning them down clearly proves that.
And don't wait for some apology that will never come.
As it stands now you don't have a little country of yours, you really don't you just don't get it.
The americans stole it from Serbia using you guys as proxy fighters, and until they needed you, you guys were classed as terrorists.
So neither one is in control, but things change over time and when it becomes beneficial for someone else to exercise some influence in the region, they will change again.
You guys are nomads, you will move to wherever it is better than albania, Kosovo was that until you guys came along and settled there.
Now it's on to Germany. I wonder are you going to claim part of their country as well? If you were in the majority of course you would, then those Gothic Lutheran churches would be part of your heritage as well, right?
And talking about monsters, have you seen what is happening in your parliament? Of course not, you're just the nice tooth fairy.
You talk about being conflicted, ha, your people have a history of being pawns of evil empires, Nazis, Nato, Ottoman, Venetian etc. and you're proud of it.
Dude, good luck because in the future, just like Bosnia I don't see western people caring so much when their faced with Nuclear war, definitely not over us, believe me.
besides even the west is waking up, at least the normal people there.
Facbricated...?! Evreything has a reason and who`s free of guilt shall return.
Peggy
Its alright dear. I know who he is and what he as done for Russia and Serbia. Besides his public display of love for both countries, he`s done absolutely nothing. nada. nichts. nünt. kurgjo. ничего. ništa.
To be honest, even I know (good) peopel IN Serbia who have done way more for the country and they never got on TV with the PM praising them. Think about it.
RE: In pursuing Bob Dylan for hate speech, Croatian Group denies Holocaust
It seems Croatia has a hard time attracting stars due to it's more than "checkered" holocaust background
“The United States burned and destroyed itself for the sake of slavery. The USA wouldn’t give it up. It had to be grinded out. The whole system had to be ripped out with force. A lot of killing. What, like, 500,000 people? A lot of destruction to end slavery. And that’s what it really was all about. This country is just too f–ked up about color. It’s a distraction. People at each other’s throats just because they are of a different color. It’s the height of insanity, and it will hold any nation back – or any neighborhood back. Or any anything back. Blacks know that some whites didn’t want to give up slavery – that if they had their way, they would still be under the yoke, and they can’t pretend they don’t know that. If you got a slave master or Klan in your blood, blacks can sense that. That stuff lingers to this day. Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood.”
Read more: http://forward.com/culture/188725/in-pursuing-bob-dylan-for-hate-speech-croatian-gro/#ixzz3xFOsuOlI
The Clinton statue fits the profile of a criminal state just like this former impeached President of the United States. The FBI who is now investigating Hilary Clinton linking corporate donations to the Clinton foundation including many Albanian criminal organizations. Its no secret that the worse General in United States history appointed by Bill Clinton Wesley Clark was tactically inferior and outsmarted by Serbian General Pavkovic with not even 1/100 of NATO's power in 1999. Clark sits as a Board Member in a Canadian Albanian Oil Company and is running it to the ground with low quality Albanian oil, the stock is tanking.
To the truth( more like lies),
To Australia and USA ,all other passport holder need visa!!!
I travelled to USA,with Australian Passport and need a 2 year travel Visa!
My cousin came to Australia, with USA passport, needed a travel Visa!
You are more "like the Lies".
As for Gjakova, well my tolerance has its limits even though I would love to meet some of them... to... sort things out.
(Gjon Marku, 13 January 2016 21:23)
Ooh tough guy. What are you going to do? Hurl eggs and your fecal matter at them? Sorry buddy. No one gives a damn about the bug up your ass from almost 20 years ago. Serbs can come back everywhere except Djakovica? And you expect an apology? Yeah, you're the one with the problem, not them. Especially when you need to whine like a little bitch in the comment section of an article about something totally unrelated and then jerk off to one of the funniest assessments of Bill Clinton I've ever read. If you're trying to sound like you're angry, it failed because you're hilarious. You take yourself and your fabricated victimhood way to seriously.
Green is a colour of Islam for a reason.
I don't see any celebrity rushing to get a "Kosovar" or Albanian citizenship.
(Peggy, 13 January 2016 11:10) # Comment link
Can you travel with Serbian passport around the world with out visa, especially to US and AUSTRALIA ???
(the truth, 13 January 2016 18:30)
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I see staying on topic is not your strong suit.
Can you see travelling with US passport without visa to Australia? What does this have to do with Steven getting a Serbian citizenship and passport? He is obviously very happy to get it.
They should offer the same to Charles Cather. He is doing a lot for Serbia.
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys....and???
they did the same with the Indians.
You know what else Hollywood screens show? Superman and Batman and Spiderman and green little martians and fairies as well dude, go check it out, you'll love it.
But you know, Hollywood also shows a whole lot of Criminal Albanian characters as well, must be true then right? Taken, those evil men doing that to the girls they abducted, scum.
Buddy go back to your beer, I don't often sling insults at people, but you have the intellect of a 4 year old and the rotten attitude to boot.
I feel for you, cause you can see it's not going to get better.
On another point Steven Seagal is actually a really decent dude, that tries to live by example. Sure his movies were mostly rubbish, even he knows that(except for 2).
But his actual life is to be commended. He makes just enough for what he needs and then leaves it.
He is not of the Clooney, Pitt, Jolie etc type pretending to care and thinking their king$hit. But not making a single difference.
He is actually the guardian and chaperone of a real life princess.
Yup, it appears that Bill Clinton preferred generals who were able to achieve the results, instead of generals that were "tactically superior" and "smart" but loosers and (according to the UN) criminals.
(icj1, 14 January 2016 14:43)
"loose" and "loser" are two different words, learn how to spell please, it diminishes what little voracity your comments have.
The Perfumed Prince and Other Political Tales
by John Chuckman, Dissident Voice, September 6, 2003
His lack of judgment demonstrated in Serbia - including an order to clear out Russian forces that British general, Sir Michael Jackson, had to ignore for fear of starting World War III -
Citizen Clark? Or, Why Electing a Mass Murderer Is a Really Bad Idea
by Nebojsa Malic, AntiWar.com, September 18, 2003
It's as if everyone has forgotten Wesley Clark was the Bomber of Belgrade, the highest-ranking military official in a cabal that systematically violated international law, the NATO Charter (and with it the US Constitution, Article 6, Section 2) and committed the greatest crime under the Nuremburg principles: that against peace.
* How a Notorious Serb General Outfoxed Wesley Clark
Pacific News Service, Sep 23, 2003 (posted 10/14)
In August 1994, during the height of the Bosnian civil war, Clark came to Banja Luka, met a Serb general and ended up looking like a perfect chump. The Serb, Ratko Mladic, suckered Clark into exchanging hats and posing for pictures.
Anyway, it says a lot about a state when then PM has time enough to give a passport to some 2nd class actor in a huge ceremony
(Comm. Parrisson, 13 January 2016 17:26
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How huge was this ceremony? Was their fireworks? Was there a huge gale with all the dignitaries attending or was hit just a photo taken with some press in attendance and not much more?
gjon if u want to get nasty, sweet,LOL. we have our heroes, one of them is the reason you can see yourself in the mirror at night before you walk past the toothbrush and paste that's been sitting there since 1986. tell me is it a collective thought not to brush your teeth in albania, or does it make you more Illyrian, sorry Spartan?
we also have our heroes that fought the Nazi regime, what about you? We also have the best Tennis player in the world, the number one Water-polo team and world champions, Our heroes also came second in the Basketball world cup last year. Oh yeah the women won the euros. Oh and we became the u19 world champs at football beating Brazil of all countries to the throne.....
Dude I could go on and on and on, but I would like to hear about yours, where are they?
Selling drugs on some German or Dutch street corner? Who and where are they? And bill Clinton doesn't count.....oh I remember, rita ora sleeping her way past every producer LOL.
Dude if you wanna annoy someone at least have an argument.
I dont even know what you are rambling about Islam. Dont get to excited. Your government called Saudia Arabia and Turkey Friends :-) Besides that, he didnt ask for Serb citizenship. He got it offered and accepted. Thats called being nice or do you think he is now going to use this passport for travel?! Silly you.
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Gjon, you obviously don't understand what I was saying but I really can't be bothered explaining it to you.
Steven on the other hand didn't just accept to be nice. Do you know anything about him at all? His love for Russia and Serbia is well known. He won't be using the passport to travel. It wasn't meant for that because it wasn't givin for that reason. It is a symbol but a simpleton like you just doesn't get any of it.
RE: Newsweek-The Kosovo Cover Up
Clinton's General Wesley Clark
"In fact--as some critics suspected at the time--the air campaign against the Serb military in Kosovo was largely ineffective. NATO bombs plowed up some fields, blew up hundreds of cars, trucks and decoys, and barely dented Serb artillery and armor. According to a suppressed Air Force report obtained by NEWSWEEK, the number of targets verifiably destroyed was a tiny fraction of those claimed: 14 tanks, not 120; 18 armored personnel carriers, not 220; 20 artillery pieces, not 450. Out of the 744 "confirmed" strikes by NATO pilots during the war, the Air Force investigators, who spent weeks combing Kosovo by helicopter and by foot, found evidence of just 58."
"At the end of the war the Serbs' ground commander, Gen. Nobojsa Pavkovic, claimed to have lost only 13 tanks. "Serb disinformation," scoffed Clark. But quietly, Clark's own staff told him the Serb general might be right. "We need to get to the bottom of this," Clark said. So at the end of June, Clark dispatched a team into Kosovo to do an on-the-ground survey.
"Against military targets, high-altitude bombing is overrated. Any commander in chief who does not face up to those hard realities will be fooling himself."
hi lenard,
dude you still think someone gives a crap anymore, don't you?
yeah Hollywood shows a whole lot of movies with Serbians as the bad guys. Deny whats up with all that anger we are still listening spill the beans. Remember you are half Croatian at least you have something good. Well Deny maybe not but movies documentary's reminds the world what despicable people Serbs were. You know those https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3GaDMYDw6A reruns over and over for decades unless more movies come out. Like the last movie one Jolly's and Brad Pit. Serbs being fascist rapist, murders, destroyers all in all not being a horrible terrible people. It says movies usually reflect true to life.
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