Rik
pre 8 godina
Serbia doesn't need EU membeship Serbia is already Trading with EU why won't serbia join EAEU I am sure mr Putin well be happy to include serbia in EAEU.
Tuesday, 12.01.2016.
16:54
The latest opinion polls show that Serbian citizens are increasingly supportive of Russia, but would rather live in EU countries.
Izvor: B92
pre 8 godina
Serbia doesn't need EU membeship Serbia is already Trading with EU why won't serbia join EAEU I am sure mr Putin well be happy to include serbia in EAEU.
pre 8 godina
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany.
(sj, 14 January 2016 12:41)
That, of course, is not a problem. What the CE of B92 forums sj thinks IS the truth. He/she does not need to be sure since his/her thinking makes the reality!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
pre 8 godina
As Germany Welcomes Migrants, Sexual Attacks in Cologne point to reality.
According to the police, those allegedly responsible for the sex attacks and numerous robberies were of Arab and north African origin. Over 100 complaints were filed to police, a third of which were linked to sexual assault. The city centre turned into a ‘lawless zone’: between 500 and 1000 men described as drunk and aggressive are believed to have been behind the attacks on partygoers in the centre of the western German city. Whether they were working as a single group or in separate gangs remains unclear. Women reported being tightly surrounded by groups of men who harassed and mugged them. Some people threw fireworks into the crowds, adding to the chaos. One of the victims had been raped. A volunteer policewoman was among those said to have been sexually assaulted.”
GERMANS SCANDINAVIANS VIKINGS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM,RUINED EUROPE.
pre 8 godina
I want to go to Sweden and sit on my fat patootie and smoke and eat all day long and take long naps, make free babies, all at the expense of the working Swede! Swedes must work for its people! I love Swedish people, don't you?
pre 8 godina
(Ross Henderson, 14 January 2016 03:51)
The EU is an illusion of wealth and prosperity.
While it is true that Merkel’s plan is to bring migrants in and put them to work thus continuing Germany’s economic miracle, but that rests on the people that are brought in.
If they were from Europe, Russia or China there would be no problems, but these are Middle eastern Muslims and they are not interested in finding work. They all want to go to Germany or Sweden because that is where social security nevana is found.
Political correctness is a horrible disease that stops the truth from coming out. Muslims that live in countries outside their places of birth do not succeed because they recreate the very thing they try and escape in the first place.
Look at the UK. They have 3 and 4 generation living on social security.
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany. He stated that he never said any benefit from these groups and the only work they did perform was selling fruit and vegetables at the local markets or selling second hand goods.
pre 8 godina
As a Canadian I am an outsider. But I have travelled in Serbia and have great respect for its people and its rich and ancient culture. I think Serbia should stay out of the EU. The EU appears increasingly run by a dictatorial Germany. Germany has got rich at the expense of other member countries. Merkel seems power mad. Look at the migrant crisis Germany has created! Germany will bring in millions of migrants then use its economic power to bludgeon other member states to take them. Serbia should remain proud and free.
pre 8 godina
The EU wants to absorb Serbia into a Germanic Empire with laws, currency, foreign policy, border controls, education and pretty much everything else dictated from Berlin. Russia wants Serbia to be free and independent. Even if Serbia joined the Russian-created Eurasian Union, Russia would not dictate to Serbs how they should run their country. Russia would not impose its currency on Serbia, and Russia would not insist that Serbia have Gay Pride Parades or that it must accept millions of Third World Moslem "refugees." All Russia asks is that Serbia stays neutral and does not join the anti-Russian and anti-Serbia NATO Pact. If Serbia agrees to this modest request, then Russia will help Serbia develop its economy and give it tariff-free access to the Russian markets. What has Serbia got from the NATO-West since the DOS Putsch? The latest figures indicate that Serbs have the lowest salaries of all ex-Yugoslav republics. That is what working with the West brings.
pre 8 godina
Actually I would even side with the US, only to put the Albanians back in place.
Sooner or later they will be crushed. No matter how - I'll help this cause.
pre 8 godina
serbia is the next ukraine. a civil war will erupt there between west and russia side weakening the country even more
pre 8 godina
You would find most of the Balkans population, like going to the West.It's called social benefits, and government housing!
You find that,once their in this area's of Paris,Stockholm, New York,or etc,living with the primitive, Afghan's,Bangladesh's,Pakistani's etc.They cry for beautiful crimeless Balkan's.
P's especially if your a blonde attractive Slavic woman!!.
pre 8 godina
"Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place."
(Linda, 13 January 2016 05:30)
This was not asked, it's obvious that most Serbs will stay there and not emigrate, because in this poll Serbian citizens living in Serbia were asked. The one million or so Serbs that already emigrated to EU countries, the USA, Australia or where ever don't have to be asked - they made their choice. Are there Serbs who emigrated to Russia, I wonder? If yes, it will be only a few 1000.
Hey, wait, there ARE Serbs that emigrated to Russia: Mira Markovic and her famous sons. I'm sure they prefer to stay there, protected by Putin, instead of spending their time in Serbian prison.
pre 8 godina
I don't think most Serbs care much about Russia. It is just a kiind of dream state from somewhere from history that is far away.
The reality of life is about the borders - jobs in Austria, Switzerland, Germany. It is about Turks who crash their cars travelling between EU countries and home but falling asleep at the wheel. It is about holidays in Greece and Montenegro. It is about hard currency - storing wealth in euros. It is about imports of cars from Germany or Japan. It is about feeling proud but feeling misunderstood.
For a few nationalists (and one religious nutter - see other postings) Russia provides an alternative world view which avoids the resentment of having to accept that NATO stamped on the wickednesses Milosevic and his stinking politics. They cannot see the harm his politics did to the good name of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
I hate these polls. They are never used to find the truth but to support current political agenda. On the one hand Serbs like the Russians but they want the EU. What crock of BS. The Serbian people know that the EU is a myth. They live next to Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia so they can see it’s all crap.
An ongoing amount of 220 million Euros is given to Serbia by the EU annually and it’s not for the Serbian people. Its to bribe the politicians, police chiefs etc to keep singing the virtues of the EU. That money is not enough to buy a nice lunch for every citizen in Serbia.
Boris Tadic did not perfom any economic miracles nor were there great sums of money donated by the EU. He borrowed it all. That is why Serbia’s debt is 72% of GDP.
pre 8 godina
Serbians and Serbian citizen are different things. So if only Serbs were to vote it would be 82%.
pre 8 godina
"Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! "
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 12 January 2016 19:18)
My dear Dragoljub, reading your words make me think for you neither wealth, health or freedom must be the most important thing, but free access to hallucinogenic drugs. Or did you only read too much lyrics from the 17th century?
pre 8 godina
"The SDS party, however, believes that "love and business" should be kept separate. "
That's exactly what this poll is showing - pragmatic approach by citizens.
Comm. Parrisson we know this to be true, but why look at last 15 years only?
How about 17?
In 1999 we were attacked by NATO, and victims aside, material damage was around 20 billion (direct) and estimated 200 billions in indirect damages. US dollars, not Euros, I believe.
To explain "direct" and "indirect"
You bomb, let's say...truck factory (direct damage).
You've also put out of business 20 more factories manufacturing parts for destroyed assembly plant, from tires to driver's seat (indirect damage). While they did not sustain any damage parts there were producing are no longer needed, as truck is no longer assembled. Lock the factory permanently and send workers home.
Yes, last 15 years:
EU + 3 billion Euros
Russia + several million Euros
but, last 17 years:
EU - 182 billion Euros (200 billion US is roughly 185 billion Euros)
Russia + several million Euros
A big minus you'll agree.
pre 8 godina
Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place. It is those other places brainwashing Serbian people because they want to grab Serbia and their countries are already ruined and have or lost their culture! Look at how even Albania is stealing Serbian culture because they have nothing to show for themselves. LOL.
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 January 2016 17:54) # Comment link
You call stats from boris tadics party facts??? Where is all this money from the eu? Who did it go to? NGOs and who else? For the past 15 years the country has been run by sellouts, you know it and everyone else knows it but you believe all the stupid western propaganda and cant decipher what is fact and what is fiction.
pre 8 godina
Serbs are like Arabs. They too want to live in the West but want to cover their women at the same time.
pre 8 godina
To EA,
Serbia doesn't want to eat with 2 ,but with 5(China,UAE,Russia, USA,and EU) knife's and fork's.
Plus they all want a piece of Serbia,just look,even little Malta wants a piece of Serbia,today.
Many countries and companies, want a piece of Serbia!
pre 8 godina
Serbia just wants to eat with two spoons...)))
pre 8 godina
My Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters, as I was asked a question many years ago when I was so young by a old Serbian soldier I also ask you " what would you choose first, good health, many wealth. or freedom " ? Sloboda was my answer, even as a little poor and orphaned child I tossed the question briefly in my mind and so natural the answere came! When you loose every thing that is of this world only then do you truely understand the importance of Sloboda! Land and Liberty, our sacred Serbia, who dare take it away from us? Oj Srbijo moja Mila Mati, sto mi tako srce vuces! The EU and NATO only Satans evil illusions upon innocent mankind! The Balkans flooded with our Christian Eastern Orthodox Tears and Blood! What good has ever come or ever will come from Satan to any one who is innocent and pure? White Sheep Angels so Pure and in Europe now for over one hundred years horrific death and destruction of the Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Race! How dare any Serbian ever ask that Russia owes Serbia any thing, in true reality is how much Serbia and Serbian people owe Mother Russia! Will the Serbian people ever disgrace them selves before God and turn their back on Mother Russia? Now the most difficult situations of all times for Russia and the Russian people, Satan knocking on their door! Czar Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! Like the monkeys paw, us Serbians be carefull what we wish!!!
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
Serbs are like Arabs. They too want to live in the West but want to cover their women at the same time.
pre 8 godina
My Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters, as I was asked a question many years ago when I was so young by a old Serbian soldier I also ask you " what would you choose first, good health, many wealth. or freedom " ? Sloboda was my answer, even as a little poor and orphaned child I tossed the question briefly in my mind and so natural the answere came! When you loose every thing that is of this world only then do you truely understand the importance of Sloboda! Land and Liberty, our sacred Serbia, who dare take it away from us? Oj Srbijo moja Mila Mati, sto mi tako srce vuces! The EU and NATO only Satans evil illusions upon innocent mankind! The Balkans flooded with our Christian Eastern Orthodox Tears and Blood! What good has ever come or ever will come from Satan to any one who is innocent and pure? White Sheep Angels so Pure and in Europe now for over one hundred years horrific death and destruction of the Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Race! How dare any Serbian ever ask that Russia owes Serbia any thing, in true reality is how much Serbia and Serbian people owe Mother Russia! Will the Serbian people ever disgrace them selves before God and turn their back on Mother Russia? Now the most difficult situations of all times for Russia and the Russian people, Satan knocking on their door! Czar Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! Like the monkeys paw, us Serbians be carefull what we wish!!!
pre 8 godina
Serbia just wants to eat with two spoons...)))
pre 8 godina
"Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! "
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 12 January 2016 19:18)
My dear Dragoljub, reading your words make me think for you neither wealth, health or freedom must be the most important thing, but free access to hallucinogenic drugs. Or did you only read too much lyrics from the 17th century?
pre 8 godina
I hate these polls. They are never used to find the truth but to support current political agenda. On the one hand Serbs like the Russians but they want the EU. What crock of BS. The Serbian people know that the EU is a myth. They live next to Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia so they can see it’s all crap.
An ongoing amount of 220 million Euros is given to Serbia by the EU annually and it’s not for the Serbian people. Its to bribe the politicians, police chiefs etc to keep singing the virtues of the EU. That money is not enough to buy a nice lunch for every citizen in Serbia.
Boris Tadic did not perfom any economic miracles nor were there great sums of money donated by the EU. He borrowed it all. That is why Serbia’s debt is 72% of GDP.
pre 8 godina
Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place. It is those other places brainwashing Serbian people because they want to grab Serbia and their countries are already ruined and have or lost their culture! Look at how even Albania is stealing Serbian culture because they have nothing to show for themselves. LOL.
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
I don't think most Serbs care much about Russia. It is just a kiind of dream state from somewhere from history that is far away.
The reality of life is about the borders - jobs in Austria, Switzerland, Germany. It is about Turks who crash their cars travelling between EU countries and home but falling asleep at the wheel. It is about holidays in Greece and Montenegro. It is about hard currency - storing wealth in euros. It is about imports of cars from Germany or Japan. It is about feeling proud but feeling misunderstood.
For a few nationalists (and one religious nutter - see other postings) Russia provides an alternative world view which avoids the resentment of having to accept that NATO stamped on the wickednesses Milosevic and his stinking politics. They cannot see the harm his politics did to the good name of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
"Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place."
(Linda, 13 January 2016 05:30)
This was not asked, it's obvious that most Serbs will stay there and not emigrate, because in this poll Serbian citizens living in Serbia were asked. The one million or so Serbs that already emigrated to EU countries, the USA, Australia or where ever don't have to be asked - they made their choice. Are there Serbs who emigrated to Russia, I wonder? If yes, it will be only a few 1000.
Hey, wait, there ARE Serbs that emigrated to Russia: Mira Markovic and her famous sons. I'm sure they prefer to stay there, protected by Putin, instead of spending their time in Serbian prison.
pre 8 godina
"The SDS party, however, believes that "love and business" should be kept separate. "
That's exactly what this poll is showing - pragmatic approach by citizens.
Comm. Parrisson we know this to be true, but why look at last 15 years only?
How about 17?
In 1999 we were attacked by NATO, and victims aside, material damage was around 20 billion (direct) and estimated 200 billions in indirect damages. US dollars, not Euros, I believe.
To explain "direct" and "indirect"
You bomb, let's say...truck factory (direct damage).
You've also put out of business 20 more factories manufacturing parts for destroyed assembly plant, from tires to driver's seat (indirect damage). While they did not sustain any damage parts there were producing are no longer needed, as truck is no longer assembled. Lock the factory permanently and send workers home.
Yes, last 15 years:
EU + 3 billion Euros
Russia + several million Euros
but, last 17 years:
EU - 182 billion Euros (200 billion US is roughly 185 billion Euros)
Russia + several million Euros
A big minus you'll agree.
pre 8 godina
Serbians and Serbian citizen are different things. So if only Serbs were to vote it would be 82%.
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 January 2016 17:54) # Comment link
You call stats from boris tadics party facts??? Where is all this money from the eu? Who did it go to? NGOs and who else? For the past 15 years the country has been run by sellouts, you know it and everyone else knows it but you believe all the stupid western propaganda and cant decipher what is fact and what is fiction.
pre 8 godina
The EU wants to absorb Serbia into a Germanic Empire with laws, currency, foreign policy, border controls, education and pretty much everything else dictated from Berlin. Russia wants Serbia to be free and independent. Even if Serbia joined the Russian-created Eurasian Union, Russia would not dictate to Serbs how they should run their country. Russia would not impose its currency on Serbia, and Russia would not insist that Serbia have Gay Pride Parades or that it must accept millions of Third World Moslem "refugees." All Russia asks is that Serbia stays neutral and does not join the anti-Russian and anti-Serbia NATO Pact. If Serbia agrees to this modest request, then Russia will help Serbia develop its economy and give it tariff-free access to the Russian markets. What has Serbia got from the NATO-West since the DOS Putsch? The latest figures indicate that Serbs have the lowest salaries of all ex-Yugoslav republics. That is what working with the West brings.
pre 8 godina
As a Canadian I am an outsider. But I have travelled in Serbia and have great respect for its people and its rich and ancient culture. I think Serbia should stay out of the EU. The EU appears increasingly run by a dictatorial Germany. Germany has got rich at the expense of other member countries. Merkel seems power mad. Look at the migrant crisis Germany has created! Germany will bring in millions of migrants then use its economic power to bludgeon other member states to take them. Serbia should remain proud and free.
pre 8 godina
Actually I would even side with the US, only to put the Albanians back in place.
Sooner or later they will be crushed. No matter how - I'll help this cause.
pre 8 godina
(Ross Henderson, 14 January 2016 03:51)
The EU is an illusion of wealth and prosperity.
While it is true that Merkel’s plan is to bring migrants in and put them to work thus continuing Germany’s economic miracle, but that rests on the people that are brought in.
If they were from Europe, Russia or China there would be no problems, but these are Middle eastern Muslims and they are not interested in finding work. They all want to go to Germany or Sweden because that is where social security nevana is found.
Political correctness is a horrible disease that stops the truth from coming out. Muslims that live in countries outside their places of birth do not succeed because they recreate the very thing they try and escape in the first place.
Look at the UK. They have 3 and 4 generation living on social security.
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany. He stated that he never said any benefit from these groups and the only work they did perform was selling fruit and vegetables at the local markets or selling second hand goods.
pre 8 godina
You would find most of the Balkans population, like going to the West.It's called social benefits, and government housing!
You find that,once their in this area's of Paris,Stockholm, New York,or etc,living with the primitive, Afghan's,Bangladesh's,Pakistani's etc.They cry for beautiful crimeless Balkan's.
P's especially if your a blonde attractive Slavic woman!!.
pre 8 godina
To EA,
Serbia doesn't want to eat with 2 ,but with 5(China,UAE,Russia, USA,and EU) knife's and fork's.
Plus they all want a piece of Serbia,just look,even little Malta wants a piece of Serbia,today.
Many countries and companies, want a piece of Serbia!
pre 8 godina
serbia is the next ukraine. a civil war will erupt there between west and russia side weakening the country even more
pre 8 godina
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany.
(sj, 14 January 2016 12:41)
That, of course, is not a problem. What the CE of B92 forums sj thinks IS the truth. He/she does not need to be sure since his/her thinking makes the reality!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
pre 8 godina
I want to go to Sweden and sit on my fat patootie and smoke and eat all day long and take long naps, make free babies, all at the expense of the working Swede! Swedes must work for its people! I love Swedish people, don't you?
pre 8 godina
As Germany Welcomes Migrants, Sexual Attacks in Cologne point to reality.
According to the police, those allegedly responsible for the sex attacks and numerous robberies were of Arab and north African origin. Over 100 complaints were filed to police, a third of which were linked to sexual assault. The city centre turned into a ‘lawless zone’: between 500 and 1000 men described as drunk and aggressive are believed to have been behind the attacks on partygoers in the centre of the western German city. Whether they were working as a single group or in separate gangs remains unclear. Women reported being tightly surrounded by groups of men who harassed and mugged them. Some people threw fireworks into the crowds, adding to the chaos. One of the victims had been raped. A volunteer policewoman was among those said to have been sexually assaulted.”
GERMANS SCANDINAVIANS VIKINGS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM,RUINED EUROPE.
pre 8 godina
Serbia doesn't need EU membeship Serbia is already Trading with EU why won't serbia join EAEU I am sure mr Putin well be happy to include serbia in EAEU.
pre 8 godina
My Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters, as I was asked a question many years ago when I was so young by a old Serbian soldier I also ask you " what would you choose first, good health, many wealth. or freedom " ? Sloboda was my answer, even as a little poor and orphaned child I tossed the question briefly in my mind and so natural the answere came! When you loose every thing that is of this world only then do you truely understand the importance of Sloboda! Land and Liberty, our sacred Serbia, who dare take it away from us? Oj Srbijo moja Mila Mati, sto mi tako srce vuces! The EU and NATO only Satans evil illusions upon innocent mankind! The Balkans flooded with our Christian Eastern Orthodox Tears and Blood! What good has ever come or ever will come from Satan to any one who is innocent and pure? White Sheep Angels so Pure and in Europe now for over one hundred years horrific death and destruction of the Christian Eastern Orthodox Slavic Race! How dare any Serbian ever ask that Russia owes Serbia any thing, in true reality is how much Serbia and Serbian people owe Mother Russia! Will the Serbian people ever disgrace them selves before God and turn their back on Mother Russia? Now the most difficult situations of all times for Russia and the Russian people, Satan knocking on their door! Czar Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! Like the monkeys paw, us Serbians be carefull what we wish!!!
pre 8 godina
Serbians and Serbian citizen are different things. So if only Serbs were to vote it would be 82%.
pre 8 godina
Serbs are like Arabs. They too want to live in the West but want to cover their women at the same time.
pre 8 godina
"The SDS party, however, believes that "love and business" should be kept separate. "
That's exactly what this poll is showing - pragmatic approach by citizens.
Comm. Parrisson we know this to be true, but why look at last 15 years only?
How about 17?
In 1999 we were attacked by NATO, and victims aside, material damage was around 20 billion (direct) and estimated 200 billions in indirect damages. US dollars, not Euros, I believe.
To explain "direct" and "indirect"
You bomb, let's say...truck factory (direct damage).
You've also put out of business 20 more factories manufacturing parts for destroyed assembly plant, from tires to driver's seat (indirect damage). While they did not sustain any damage parts there were producing are no longer needed, as truck is no longer assembled. Lock the factory permanently and send workers home.
Yes, last 15 years:
EU + 3 billion Euros
Russia + several million Euros
but, last 17 years:
EU - 182 billion Euros (200 billion US is roughly 185 billion Euros)
Russia + several million Euros
A big minus you'll agree.
pre 8 godina
I hate these polls. They are never used to find the truth but to support current political agenda. On the one hand Serbs like the Russians but they want the EU. What crock of BS. The Serbian people know that the EU is a myth. They live next to Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Croatia so they can see it’s all crap.
An ongoing amount of 220 million Euros is given to Serbia by the EU annually and it’s not for the Serbian people. Its to bribe the politicians, police chiefs etc to keep singing the virtues of the EU. That money is not enough to buy a nice lunch for every citizen in Serbia.
Boris Tadic did not perfom any economic miracles nor were there great sums of money donated by the EU. He borrowed it all. That is why Serbia’s debt is 72% of GDP.
pre 8 godina
To EA,
Serbia doesn't want to eat with 2 ,but with 5(China,UAE,Russia, USA,and EU) knife's and fork's.
Plus they all want a piece of Serbia,just look,even little Malta wants a piece of Serbia,today.
Many countries and companies, want a piece of Serbia!
pre 8 godina
I don't think most Serbs care much about Russia. It is just a kiind of dream state from somewhere from history that is far away.
The reality of life is about the borders - jobs in Austria, Switzerland, Germany. It is about Turks who crash their cars travelling between EU countries and home but falling asleep at the wheel. It is about holidays in Greece and Montenegro. It is about hard currency - storing wealth in euros. It is about imports of cars from Germany or Japan. It is about feeling proud but feeling misunderstood.
For a few nationalists (and one religious nutter - see other postings) Russia provides an alternative world view which avoids the resentment of having to accept that NATO stamped on the wickednesses Milosevic and his stinking politics. They cannot see the harm his politics did to the good name of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place. It is those other places brainwashing Serbian people because they want to grab Serbia and their countries are already ruined and have or lost their culture! Look at how even Albania is stealing Serbian culture because they have nothing to show for themselves. LOL.
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
(Comm. Parrisson, 12 January 2016 17:54) # Comment link
You call stats from boris tadics party facts??? Where is all this money from the eu? Who did it go to? NGOs and who else? For the past 15 years the country has been run by sellouts, you know it and everyone else knows it but you believe all the stupid western propaganda and cant decipher what is fact and what is fiction.
pre 8 godina
"Vlade doing all in his power with Angels on his shoulders to avoid total war and the total destruction of our beautiful world! "
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 12 January 2016 19:18)
My dear Dragoljub, reading your words make me think for you neither wealth, health or freedom must be the most important thing, but free access to hallucinogenic drugs. Or did you only read too much lyrics from the 17th century?
pre 8 godina
You would find most of the Balkans population, like going to the West.It's called social benefits, and government housing!
You find that,once their in this area's of Paris,Stockholm, New York,or etc,living with the primitive, Afghan's,Bangladesh's,Pakistani's etc.They cry for beautiful crimeless Balkan's.
P's especially if your a blonde attractive Slavic woman!!.
pre 8 godina
Serbia just wants to eat with two spoons...)))
pre 8 godina
serbia is the next ukraine. a civil war will erupt there between west and russia side weakening the country even more
pre 8 godina
"The fact is that more than 60 percent of exports go to the EU, while not even five percent go to Russia. Over three billions in donations came from the EU during the past 15 years, while several million euros came from Russia," said SDS MP Aleksandar Senic.
Nice to read those facts here, doesn't happen so often.
I'm sure: If citizens were asked in a poll about that, the results would be the opposite. Media and politicians in Serbia should ask themselves why it is like that. Of course only under the assumption that they want the citizens to know the facts and not want to manipulate them with propaganda or biased information. And I'm not so sure if that assumption is valid in case of Serbia.
pre 8 godina
"Most important question left out was, how about Serbia? They should stay and live in Serbia. They will regret for the rest of their lives to leave such a beautiful place."
(Linda, 13 January 2016 05:30)
This was not asked, it's obvious that most Serbs will stay there and not emigrate, because in this poll Serbian citizens living in Serbia were asked. The one million or so Serbs that already emigrated to EU countries, the USA, Australia or where ever don't have to be asked - they made their choice. Are there Serbs who emigrated to Russia, I wonder? If yes, it will be only a few 1000.
Hey, wait, there ARE Serbs that emigrated to Russia: Mira Markovic and her famous sons. I'm sure they prefer to stay there, protected by Putin, instead of spending their time in Serbian prison.
pre 8 godina
The EU wants to absorb Serbia into a Germanic Empire with laws, currency, foreign policy, border controls, education and pretty much everything else dictated from Berlin. Russia wants Serbia to be free and independent. Even if Serbia joined the Russian-created Eurasian Union, Russia would not dictate to Serbs how they should run their country. Russia would not impose its currency on Serbia, and Russia would not insist that Serbia have Gay Pride Parades or that it must accept millions of Third World Moslem "refugees." All Russia asks is that Serbia stays neutral and does not join the anti-Russian and anti-Serbia NATO Pact. If Serbia agrees to this modest request, then Russia will help Serbia develop its economy and give it tariff-free access to the Russian markets. What has Serbia got from the NATO-West since the DOS Putsch? The latest figures indicate that Serbs have the lowest salaries of all ex-Yugoslav republics. That is what working with the West brings.
pre 8 godina
Actually I would even side with the US, only to put the Albanians back in place.
Sooner or later they will be crushed. No matter how - I'll help this cause.
pre 8 godina
As a Canadian I am an outsider. But I have travelled in Serbia and have great respect for its people and its rich and ancient culture. I think Serbia should stay out of the EU. The EU appears increasingly run by a dictatorial Germany. Germany has got rich at the expense of other member countries. Merkel seems power mad. Look at the migrant crisis Germany has created! Germany will bring in millions of migrants then use its economic power to bludgeon other member states to take them. Serbia should remain proud and free.
pre 8 godina
(Ross Henderson, 14 January 2016 03:51)
The EU is an illusion of wealth and prosperity.
While it is true that Merkel’s plan is to bring migrants in and put them to work thus continuing Germany’s economic miracle, but that rests on the people that are brought in.
If they were from Europe, Russia or China there would be no problems, but these are Middle eastern Muslims and they are not interested in finding work. They all want to go to Germany or Sweden because that is where social security nevana is found.
Political correctness is a horrible disease that stops the truth from coming out. Muslims that live in countries outside their places of birth do not succeed because they recreate the very thing they try and escape in the first place.
Look at the UK. They have 3 and 4 generation living on social security.
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany. He stated that he never said any benefit from these groups and the only work they did perform was selling fruit and vegetables at the local markets or selling second hand goods.
pre 8 godina
As Germany Welcomes Migrants, Sexual Attacks in Cologne point to reality.
According to the police, those allegedly responsible for the sex attacks and numerous robberies were of Arab and north African origin. Over 100 complaints were filed to police, a third of which were linked to sexual assault. The city centre turned into a ‘lawless zone’: between 500 and 1000 men described as drunk and aggressive are believed to have been behind the attacks on partygoers in the centre of the western German city. Whether they were working as a single group or in separate gangs remains unclear. Women reported being tightly surrounded by groups of men who harassed and mugged them. Some people threw fireworks into the crowds, adding to the chaos. One of the victims had been raped. A volunteer policewoman was among those said to have been sexually assaulted.”
GERMANS SCANDINAVIANS VIKINGS WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM,RUINED EUROPE.
pre 8 godina
I want to go to Sweden and sit on my fat patootie and smoke and eat all day long and take long naps, make free babies, all at the expense of the working Swede! Swedes must work for its people! I love Swedish people, don't you?
pre 8 godina
About 10 years ago (I think, not sure) a German bureaucrat who was in charge of Treasury wrote a book after retiring on Muslim migrants to Germany.
(sj, 14 January 2016 12:41)
That, of course, is not a problem. What the CE of B92 forums sj thinks IS the truth. He/she does not need to be sure since his/her thinking makes the reality!
P.S. CE = Chief Economist
pre 8 godina
Serbia doesn't need EU membeship Serbia is already Trading with EU why won't serbia join EAEU I am sure mr Putin well be happy to include serbia in EAEU.
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