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Thursday, 03.12.2015.

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PM opens OSCE conference, warns about "Balkan powder keg"

Aleksandar Vucic said at the opening of the OSCE Ministerial Council that the Balkans remains "a powder keg that needs only a spark to explode again."

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Noble Eagle

pre 8 godina

1) There will never be peace and stability in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula until the autochthonous inhabitants are free of colonial occupation.

2) Achieving a strong and lasting peace in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula starts with the annulment of the London Conference of 1912-1913 which divided millions of Albanians and half of Natural Historically and presently Ethnic Albanian territories from the Independent and Sovereign Albanian state declared on November 28, 1912.

3) Kosova, Ilirida, Chameria, Malësia, Presheva Valley, and Sanxhak must be returned to Mother Albania.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Andy,

It won't explode - but you have to remember one thing. For good or bad, maybe just to make you mad - the Serbs drive on the same side where Americans, Russians and Albanians do.

I drove twice in UK, it was excruciating experience.

And the worst is, all your rental cars have both the steering wheel and the gear-changing lever on completely wrong side. It is just abnormal. All the time I entered as driver your cars on the left side and sat down I was shocked: geeeee.... somebody stole the steering wheel!

Have no idea why you guys did not consider to drive the proper way. :-P

eric

pre 8 godina

how can serbia talk about peace when they started war and killed thousands of innocent people including infants. Just a waste of a meeting.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."
(Jugoslavija, 3 December 2015 13:35)

If what you claim is true, why then did Serbia wimp out by caving in just 70 days. You can't have it both ways. A little humanitarian bombing so long ago still gives you nightmares. How many times a night does mommy have to change your diapers.

rote

pre 8 godina

think about it

Sharia(t)was formed in 16 century during Suleiman Qanuni also called the Great or the Magnificient. He summarized what was known as Mohammad’s Law and since then Sharia is either the only law in Muslim countries or is the basis of their current legislation. Islam first became state religion in the Great Porta later called by the Europeans (only) as the Ottoman empire. But it penetrated even to Indonesia, India and other Asian states that weren’t subject to the Ottomans. Of course practice is different in various states but the fundamental approach is the same. In most of the Muslim states they have no judges because mullahs do the job. Islam penetrates every hole of their life so they accept the judgments as quite natural. Because they know the logics long before they face their mullah. Of course Europeans will call it wild but I don’t think so. Wild are the Europeans who take children from their parents, who make pride parades, who destroy other states. In the end they are surprised why Muslims are not assimilated in this crazy world.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

Sir - I Quote you -

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!
(Nikola Novakovic, 4 December 2015 12:57)

Comment - Genocide can only be reconciled by BLOD.
either the Guilty oneses or the Blood of Jesus Christ.

I do think it will be by the Guilty Oneses.

Arn.Sweden.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

So many anti-Serbs... You grew fat on propaganda...

Educate yourself, it was not just the Serbs who did wrong...!

Now he says powder keg ready to explode... Many academics believe that the Yugoslav wars were not finished, that they froze in the 90s... They believe there is frozen conflicts in the Balkans waiting to be thawed out again... Almost like north and South Korea...

Now these frozen conflicts can stay frozen for centuries if the right policies are put in place and if foreigners stop meddling in the affairs of these nations... But if these governments in the Balkans do not create stability and foreigners are allowed to have free reign, then these frozen conflicts will thaw out quickly and we will once again have a crisis in the Balkans...

Unity in the Balkans is the only way we can survive and have peace and prosperity... We were divided by Western powers, they conquered Yugoslavia and created this mess which we are in... Look at Iraq, look at Libya and Afghanistan, there is divisions between all the people in these lands and it only happened when the West changed the balance of power in these nations...

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!

radical

pre 8 godina

Albi, tell that to those kids of Hoxha still living in Tirana. West wants to see even ethnically pure greeks while according to nazis in Washington, serbs should either convert to islam or cease to exist.

ethnicallypure

pre 8 godina

Lenny, you want another conflict so hrvat can be fully pure. Serbia has population of 20 percent non-serbs while Croatia is almost 100 percent hrvat. Remaining croats and muslims live peacefully in Sprska while in Mostar muslims and croats go to seperate schools like blacks and whites did in South Africa.

think about it

pre 8 godina

about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
And the picture you paint warped in many ways. First what you claim as "clan" how is that different than the mentality of your SNS. SRS, etc. You follow the leaders blindly and it is absolute. How is it different than in the US as Republicans and Democrats, whos base follows the leadership blindly, the difference in the US is you have a core of middle grounders that vote on ideals and not party.
Now the Sharia law deal, what is presented in the anti muslim press is that the law of extremists is actually what Sharia law is, this is not true, to the majority of Muslims Sharia law is their religious way of living or moral code. The same as you have laws of the Orthodox Church which if you are devout you will not break.(As many Serbs committed murder, rape and torture believing they were operating within the laws of their faith)
It is similar to again in the US, Abortion is legal, but many claim it is a violation of their faith and they condemn those who participate in this state legal action.

We hear daily of many distortions of Shari law that are institued by the Islamic extremist, that the general muslim population also believe are distortions.
More than 1/5 of the world is Muslim, but only a fraction of that participate in Islamic extremism.

wondering which

pre 8 godina

Considering the whole world knows that Serbia is the source of potential instability as in the 90's, it is hard to believe he is saying this.
One of three things must be happening.
1. He is actually threatening the peace to the area if Serbia does not get its way.
2. He has been peddling Serbian propaganda so long he has begun to believe it.
3. Or he actually believes that the world is blind.

Niko

pre 8 godina

@ Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
Not sure with what kind of Albanians you are hanging out, but it seems your mind is living in XIX century while your body is in the present.
Considering the current situation in Balkans, you can make the same assessment of lack of strong leaders for every country in the region.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Serbs have the same corrupted politicians as every nation in the Balkans.
I am Christian orthodox Albanian and Kosovar Albanians are our brothers even though they belong to a different clan or faith.
I have no sympathy at all for Serbs despite my religion being the same as theirs.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Well, why dont you carry out a poll like that Comm and see if you're right? You're asserting that your claim is fact baded on absolety nothing. The more you type, the more you prove that you'rr in serious need of a brain transplant

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The KLA Albanian Jihadists are alive and well working with the KLA, UCK and other Islamic terrorist groups.

KLA Albanian Jihadists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfC0N4bT3mM

Ethnic Albanian Foreign Fighters and the Islamic State
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/tm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=43917#.VmCaSrgrJhE

The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism in Kosovo
http://www.neweasterneurope.eu/interviews/1301-the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo

Kosovo: The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo/5397371

Fox News: Albanian Muslim Terror In America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KdUjZ1Reb8

Fox News: Kosovo Albanian Islamic Terrorism/ Anarchy In USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yBHo6EpgJ8

Kosovo Albanian Arrested On Terror Charges
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-albanian-arrested-terror-charges-islamic-state/27400156.html

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly. "
(albi, 3 December 2015 16:29)

Indeed. The tribal clan structure of the Albanians prevents them from following a single 'big' leader. Instead, they have unconditional loyalty for their own clan leaders, which makes it hard to establish democratic standards and normal state structures. If you ask a muslim if state laws or sharia is more important, about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Welcome to the land of war criminals and rapists Say I.
No redemption without forgiveness. Serbia will become land of good people when they ask forgiveness for what they did to their neighbors. Till then they will remain a nation of proud war criminals and rapists.
let us not forget:
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Bosnian_War
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/28/balkans6
http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6a87a0.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/14/balkans6
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-wartime-rape-victims-kept-secret/25403115.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/22/world/crisis-in-the-balkans-crimes-deny-rape-or-be-hated-kosovo-victims-choice.html?pagewanted=all

Lenard

pre 8 godina

PM opens OSCE conference, warns about "Balkan powder keg". Gee wiz the big head chetnik with his pudgy side kick communist forgot to mention Bosnia. That is the powder keg that greater war criminal Serbia primed to go. When it goes poor destitute Serbia will get blown to bits what is left of it. I know don't mention the Serbs criminality likes not seen since WW2. Sure maybe everybody mite forget Serbia's bloody hands and being the criminal war instigator with its "Srpska" criminal minions.

albi

pre 8 godina

Albanians are fanatical enough to follow their leaders?!!!

First time I hear about it.

Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly.

I speak with authority on the subject. I am Albanian. I grew up among Albanians. I still have Albanian friends. That they follow their leaders blindly - this must be the first utterance of such nonsense.

loda

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Oh the irony...

He also should have mentioned that Belgrade is the Europe's capital city of war criminals.

brothersinchrist

pre 8 godina

Let us put it this way. How many of those who suffered would go to war for this guy. Bosnians and Albanians are only fanatical enough to follow thrir leaders blindly, young christians born during and after the war don't want another one. There are Christian Albanians, but only Christians in Bosnia are croats and serbs. Thaci and Izetbegovic junior want to provoke another conflict in order to destroy christianity from the Balkans. Muslims need to live according to that life style Clinton taught them, than again real masters behind curtains were gulf states as King Fahd mosque in Sarajevo demonstrates.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To the knucklehead Rocky,
Milosevic was a tyrant/Dictator ,like the Albanian Dictator(Hoxja) ,and the Croatian (TITO,Tudman).So cut out your bullshit, when you Albanian's are not Angelo's.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?
(Rocky, 3 December 2015 12:13)

Half a million, you sound like the NATO propaganda machine which said that 200 Serbian tanks were blown up in Kosovo.

How the Serb Army Escaped NATO
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/09/balkans1

"By early May, Nato was claiming that its aircraft had destroyed more than 200 tanks and had cut off Serb forces in Kosovo from their supply bases. It portrayed a Serb army whose morale was crumbling from mounting casualties, shortages of food and fuel and lack of sleep, as it dispersed into smaller and weaker units to escape the relentless bombing."

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."

Reality for Rocky

pre 8 godina

Rocky thanks once again for another impassioned,unbiased contribution to the debate. You are part of an unconvincing and pathetic propaganda assault against anything Serbian. That's sad because most Serbs are very hospitable and many decent,innocent Serbs were killed in the Balkan conflicts of the 90's. Yes, that's those you never seem to want to mention as you appear to think Serbs are immortal and don't get killed in conflicts. If only it were true but the reality is that they aren't but Serbia is.Please don't come back again with those platitudes about who started those wars. It wasn't your beloved Serbs,as you well know.Kindly stop revising history repeatedly,it's tiresome,please!

Rocky

pre 8 godina

"With the hotheads in Serbia, we will know how to deal," Vucic said in his speech at the beginning of the big OSCE summit in Belgrade.

I sure hope so, Serbia for the last 100+ years has been plaqued with them, Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?

withwhat

pre 8 godina

Doesn't this clown remember how many deserted last time serbs tried to build Velika Srbija. Does this guy think people used to decent life style would want war. Only thing pushing for more violence is the shock threaphy to the economy.

Reality for Rocky

pre 8 godina

Rocky thanks once again for another impassioned,unbiased contribution to the debate. You are part of an unconvincing and pathetic propaganda assault against anything Serbian. That's sad because most Serbs are very hospitable and many decent,innocent Serbs were killed in the Balkan conflicts of the 90's. Yes, that's those you never seem to want to mention as you appear to think Serbs are immortal and don't get killed in conflicts. If only it were true but the reality is that they aren't but Serbia is.Please don't come back again with those platitudes about who started those wars. It wasn't your beloved Serbs,as you well know.Kindly stop revising history repeatedly,it's tiresome,please!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?
(Rocky, 3 December 2015 12:13)

Half a million, you sound like the NATO propaganda machine which said that 200 Serbian tanks were blown up in Kosovo.

How the Serb Army Escaped NATO
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/09/balkans1

"By early May, Nato was claiming that its aircraft had destroyed more than 200 tanks and had cut off Serb forces in Kosovo from their supply bases. It portrayed a Serb army whose morale was crumbling from mounting casualties, shortages of food and fuel and lack of sleep, as it dispersed into smaller and weaker units to escape the relentless bombing."

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To the knucklehead Rocky,
Milosevic was a tyrant/Dictator ,like the Albanian Dictator(Hoxja) ,and the Croatian (TITO,Tudman).So cut out your bullshit, when you Albanian's are not Angelo's.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

"With the hotheads in Serbia, we will know how to deal," Vucic said in his speech at the beginning of the big OSCE summit in Belgrade.

I sure hope so, Serbia for the last 100+ years has been plaqued with them, Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?

brothersinchrist

pre 8 godina

Let us put it this way. How many of those who suffered would go to war for this guy. Bosnians and Albanians are only fanatical enough to follow thrir leaders blindly, young christians born during and after the war don't want another one. There are Christian Albanians, but only Christians in Bosnia are croats and serbs. Thaci and Izetbegovic junior want to provoke another conflict in order to destroy christianity from the Balkans. Muslims need to live according to that life style Clinton taught them, than again real masters behind curtains were gulf states as King Fahd mosque in Sarajevo demonstrates.

withwhat

pre 8 godina

Doesn't this clown remember how many deserted last time serbs tried to build Velika Srbija. Does this guy think people used to decent life style would want war. Only thing pushing for more violence is the shock threaphy to the economy.

loda

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Oh the irony...

He also should have mentioned that Belgrade is the Europe's capital city of war criminals.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

PM opens OSCE conference, warns about "Balkan powder keg". Gee wiz the big head chetnik with his pudgy side kick communist forgot to mention Bosnia. That is the powder keg that greater war criminal Serbia primed to go. When it goes poor destitute Serbia will get blown to bits what is left of it. I know don't mention the Serbs criminality likes not seen since WW2. Sure maybe everybody mite forget Serbia's bloody hands and being the criminal war instigator with its "Srpska" criminal minions.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Welcome to the land of war criminals and rapists Say I.
No redemption without forgiveness. Serbia will become land of good people when they ask forgiveness for what they did to their neighbors. Till then they will remain a nation of proud war criminals and rapists.
let us not forget:
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Bosnian_War
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/28/balkans6
http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6a87a0.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/14/balkans6
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-wartime-rape-victims-kept-secret/25403115.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/22/world/crisis-in-the-balkans-crimes-deny-rape-or-be-hated-kosovo-victims-choice.html?pagewanted=all

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly. "
(albi, 3 December 2015 16:29)

Indeed. The tribal clan structure of the Albanians prevents them from following a single 'big' leader. Instead, they have unconditional loyalty for their own clan leaders, which makes it hard to establish democratic standards and normal state structures. If you ask a muslim if state laws or sharia is more important, about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The KLA Albanian Jihadists are alive and well working with the KLA, UCK and other Islamic terrorist groups.

KLA Albanian Jihadists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfC0N4bT3mM

Ethnic Albanian Foreign Fighters and the Islamic State
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/tm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=43917#.VmCaSrgrJhE

The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism in Kosovo
http://www.neweasterneurope.eu/interviews/1301-the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo

Kosovo: The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo/5397371

Fox News: Albanian Muslim Terror In America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KdUjZ1Reb8

Fox News: Kosovo Albanian Islamic Terrorism/ Anarchy In USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yBHo6EpgJ8

Kosovo Albanian Arrested On Terror Charges
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-albanian-arrested-terror-charges-islamic-state/27400156.html

wondering which

pre 8 godina

Considering the whole world knows that Serbia is the source of potential instability as in the 90's, it is hard to believe he is saying this.
One of three things must be happening.
1. He is actually threatening the peace to the area if Serbia does not get its way.
2. He has been peddling Serbian propaganda so long he has begun to believe it.
3. Or he actually believes that the world is blind.

albi

pre 8 godina

Albanians are fanatical enough to follow their leaders?!!!

First time I hear about it.

Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly.

I speak with authority on the subject. I am Albanian. I grew up among Albanians. I still have Albanian friends. That they follow their leaders blindly - this must be the first utterance of such nonsense.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Well, why dont you carry out a poll like that Comm and see if you're right? You're asserting that your claim is fact baded on absolety nothing. The more you type, the more you prove that you'rr in serious need of a brain transplant

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

So many anti-Serbs... You grew fat on propaganda...

Educate yourself, it was not just the Serbs who did wrong...!

Now he says powder keg ready to explode... Many academics believe that the Yugoslav wars were not finished, that they froze in the 90s... They believe there is frozen conflicts in the Balkans waiting to be thawed out again... Almost like north and South Korea...

Now these frozen conflicts can stay frozen for centuries if the right policies are put in place and if foreigners stop meddling in the affairs of these nations... But if these governments in the Balkans do not create stability and foreigners are allowed to have free reign, then these frozen conflicts will thaw out quickly and we will once again have a crisis in the Balkans...

Unity in the Balkans is the only way we can survive and have peace and prosperity... We were divided by Western powers, they conquered Yugoslavia and created this mess which we are in... Look at Iraq, look at Libya and Afghanistan, there is divisions between all the people in these lands and it only happened when the West changed the balance of power in these nations...

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!

Niko

pre 8 godina

@ Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
Not sure with what kind of Albanians you are hanging out, but it seems your mind is living in XIX century while your body is in the present.
Considering the current situation in Balkans, you can make the same assessment of lack of strong leaders for every country in the region.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Serbs have the same corrupted politicians as every nation in the Balkans.
I am Christian orthodox Albanian and Kosovar Albanians are our brothers even though they belong to a different clan or faith.
I have no sympathy at all for Serbs despite my religion being the same as theirs.

think about it

pre 8 godina

about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
And the picture you paint warped in many ways. First what you claim as "clan" how is that different than the mentality of your SNS. SRS, etc. You follow the leaders blindly and it is absolute. How is it different than in the US as Republicans and Democrats, whos base follows the leadership blindly, the difference in the US is you have a core of middle grounders that vote on ideals and not party.
Now the Sharia law deal, what is presented in the anti muslim press is that the law of extremists is actually what Sharia law is, this is not true, to the majority of Muslims Sharia law is their religious way of living or moral code. The same as you have laws of the Orthodox Church which if you are devout you will not break.(As many Serbs committed murder, rape and torture believing they were operating within the laws of their faith)
It is similar to again in the US, Abortion is legal, but many claim it is a violation of their faith and they condemn those who participate in this state legal action.

We hear daily of many distortions of Shari law that are institued by the Islamic extremist, that the general muslim population also believe are distortions.
More than 1/5 of the world is Muslim, but only a fraction of that participate in Islamic extremism.

ethnicallypure

pre 8 godina

Lenny, you want another conflict so hrvat can be fully pure. Serbia has population of 20 percent non-serbs while Croatia is almost 100 percent hrvat. Remaining croats and muslims live peacefully in Sprska while in Mostar muslims and croats go to seperate schools like blacks and whites did in South Africa.

rote

pre 8 godina

think about it

Sharia(t)was formed in 16 century during Suleiman Qanuni also called the Great or the Magnificient. He summarized what was known as Mohammad’s Law and since then Sharia is either the only law in Muslim countries or is the basis of their current legislation. Islam first became state religion in the Great Porta later called by the Europeans (only) as the Ottoman empire. But it penetrated even to Indonesia, India and other Asian states that weren’t subject to the Ottomans. Of course practice is different in various states but the fundamental approach is the same. In most of the Muslim states they have no judges because mullahs do the job. Islam penetrates every hole of their life so they accept the judgments as quite natural. Because they know the logics long before they face their mullah. Of course Europeans will call it wild but I don’t think so. Wild are the Europeans who take children from their parents, who make pride parades, who destroy other states. In the end they are surprised why Muslims are not assimilated in this crazy world.

radical

pre 8 godina

Albi, tell that to those kids of Hoxha still living in Tirana. West wants to see even ethnically pure greeks while according to nazis in Washington, serbs should either convert to islam or cease to exist.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."
(Jugoslavija, 3 December 2015 13:35)

If what you claim is true, why then did Serbia wimp out by caving in just 70 days. You can't have it both ways. A little humanitarian bombing so long ago still gives you nightmares. How many times a night does mommy have to change your diapers.

eric

pre 8 godina

how can serbia talk about peace when they started war and killed thousands of innocent people including infants. Just a waste of a meeting.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

Sir - I Quote you -

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!
(Nikola Novakovic, 4 December 2015 12:57)

Comment - Genocide can only be reconciled by BLOD.
either the Guilty oneses or the Blood of Jesus Christ.

I do think it will be by the Guilty Oneses.

Arn.Sweden.

Noble Eagle

pre 8 godina

1) There will never be peace and stability in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula until the autochthonous inhabitants are free of colonial occupation.

2) Achieving a strong and lasting peace in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula starts with the annulment of the London Conference of 1912-1913 which divided millions of Albanians and half of Natural Historically and presently Ethnic Albanian territories from the Independent and Sovereign Albanian state declared on November 28, 1912.

3) Kosova, Ilirida, Chameria, Malësia, Presheva Valley, and Sanxhak must be returned to Mother Albania.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Andy,

It won't explode - but you have to remember one thing. For good or bad, maybe just to make you mad - the Serbs drive on the same side where Americans, Russians and Albanians do.

I drove twice in UK, it was excruciating experience.

And the worst is, all your rental cars have both the steering wheel and the gear-changing lever on completely wrong side. It is just abnormal. All the time I entered as driver your cars on the left side and sat down I was shocked: geeeee.... somebody stole the steering wheel!

Have no idea why you guys did not consider to drive the proper way. :-P

Rocky

pre 8 godina

"With the hotheads in Serbia, we will know how to deal," Vucic said in his speech at the beginning of the big OSCE summit in Belgrade.

I sure hope so, Serbia for the last 100+ years has been plaqued with them, Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?

withwhat

pre 8 godina

Doesn't this clown remember how many deserted last time serbs tried to build Velika Srbija. Does this guy think people used to decent life style would want war. Only thing pushing for more violence is the shock threaphy to the economy.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To the knucklehead Rocky,
Milosevic was a tyrant/Dictator ,like the Albanian Dictator(Hoxja) ,and the Croatian (TITO,Tudman).So cut out your bullshit, when you Albanian's are not Angelo's.

loda

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Oh the irony...

He also should have mentioned that Belgrade is the Europe's capital city of war criminals.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

PM opens OSCE conference, warns about "Balkan powder keg". Gee wiz the big head chetnik with his pudgy side kick communist forgot to mention Bosnia. That is the powder keg that greater war criminal Serbia primed to go. When it goes poor destitute Serbia will get blown to bits what is left of it. I know don't mention the Serbs criminality likes not seen since WW2. Sure maybe everybody mite forget Serbia's bloody hands and being the criminal war instigator with its "Srpska" criminal minions.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

"Welcome to the land of proud and good people, welcome to Serbia," said Vucic.
Welcome to the land of war criminals and rapists Say I.
No redemption without forgiveness. Serbia will become land of good people when they ask forgiveness for what they did to their neighbors. Till then they will remain a nation of proud war criminals and rapists.
let us not forget:
http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_Bosnian_War
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/28/balkans6
http://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6a87a0.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/apr/14/balkans6
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-wartime-rape-victims-kept-secret/25403115.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/06/22/world/crisis-in-the-balkans-crimes-deny-rape-or-be-hated-kosovo-victims-choice.html?pagewanted=all

albi

pre 8 godina

Albanians are fanatical enough to follow their leaders?!!!

First time I hear about it.

Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly.

I speak with authority on the subject. I am Albanian. I grew up among Albanians. I still have Albanian friends. That they follow their leaders blindly - this must be the first utterance of such nonsense.

Reality for Rocky

pre 8 godina

Rocky thanks once again for another impassioned,unbiased contribution to the debate. You are part of an unconvincing and pathetic propaganda assault against anything Serbian. That's sad because most Serbs are very hospitable and many decent,innocent Serbs were killed in the Balkan conflicts of the 90's. Yes, that's those you never seem to want to mention as you appear to think Serbs are immortal and don't get killed in conflicts. If only it were true but the reality is that they aren't but Serbia is.Please don't come back again with those platitudes about who started those wars. It wasn't your beloved Serbs,as you well know.Kindly stop revising history repeatedly,it's tiresome,please!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Albanians can be very, very stubborn. Albanians can also be your best friend ever or your worst vengeful enemy. Albanians however do not follow their leaders blindly. "
(albi, 3 December 2015 16:29)

Indeed. The tribal clan structure of the Albanians prevents them from following a single 'big' leader. Instead, they have unconditional loyalty for their own clan leaders, which makes it hard to establish democratic standards and normal state structures. If you ask a muslim if state laws or sharia is more important, about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.

brothersinchrist

pre 8 godina

Let us put it this way. How many of those who suffered would go to war for this guy. Bosnians and Albanians are only fanatical enough to follow thrir leaders blindly, young christians born during and after the war don't want another one. There are Christian Albanians, but only Christians in Bosnia are croats and serbs. Thaci and Izetbegovic junior want to provoke another conflict in order to destroy christianity from the Balkans. Muslims need to live according to that life style Clinton taught them, than again real masters behind curtains were gulf states as King Fahd mosque in Sarajevo demonstrates.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Milosevich being a great example in which he lead the Serbian criminal war machine to barbarically murder close to half a million innocent victims, many of which were woman & children, all in the hopes of creating a greater Serbian state!!!
Time will tell if Vucic is indeed sincere?
(Rocky, 3 December 2015 12:13)

Half a million, you sound like the NATO propaganda machine which said that 200 Serbian tanks were blown up in Kosovo.

How the Serb Army Escaped NATO
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/mar/09/balkans1

"By early May, Nato was claiming that its aircraft had destroyed more than 200 tanks and had cut off Serb forces in Kosovo from their supply bases. It portrayed a Serb army whose morale was crumbling from mounting casualties, shortages of food and fuel and lack of sleep, as it dispersed into smaller and weaker units to escape the relentless bombing."

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."

wondering which

pre 8 godina

Considering the whole world knows that Serbia is the source of potential instability as in the 90's, it is hard to believe he is saying this.
One of three things must be happening.
1. He is actually threatening the peace to the area if Serbia does not get its way.
2. He has been peddling Serbian propaganda so long he has begun to believe it.
3. Or he actually believes that the world is blind.

rote

pre 8 godina

think about it

Sharia(t)was formed in 16 century during Suleiman Qanuni also called the Great or the Magnificient. He summarized what was known as Mohammad’s Law and since then Sharia is either the only law in Muslim countries or is the basis of their current legislation. Islam first became state religion in the Great Porta later called by the Europeans (only) as the Ottoman empire. But it penetrated even to Indonesia, India and other Asian states that weren’t subject to the Ottomans. Of course practice is different in various states but the fundamental approach is the same. In most of the Muslim states they have no judges because mullahs do the job. Islam penetrates every hole of their life so they accept the judgments as quite natural. Because they know the logics long before they face their mullah. Of course Europeans will call it wild but I don’t think so. Wild are the Europeans who take children from their parents, who make pride parades, who destroy other states. In the end they are surprised why Muslims are not assimilated in this crazy world.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

The KLA Albanian Jihadists are alive and well working with the KLA, UCK and other Islamic terrorist groups.

KLA Albanian Jihadists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfC0N4bT3mM

Ethnic Albanian Foreign Fighters and the Islamic State
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/tm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=43917#.VmCaSrgrJhE

The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism in Kosovo
http://www.neweasterneurope.eu/interviews/1301-the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo

Kosovo: The Hidden Growth of Islamic Extremism
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-hidden-growth-of-islamic-extremism-in-kosovo/5397371

Fox News: Albanian Muslim Terror In America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KdUjZ1Reb8

Fox News: Kosovo Albanian Islamic Terrorism/ Anarchy In USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yBHo6EpgJ8

Kosovo Albanian Arrested On Terror Charges
http://www.rferl.org/content/kosovo-albanian-arrested-terror-charges-islamic-state/27400156.html

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

So many anti-Serbs... You grew fat on propaganda...

Educate yourself, it was not just the Serbs who did wrong...!

Now he says powder keg ready to explode... Many academics believe that the Yugoslav wars were not finished, that they froze in the 90s... They believe there is frozen conflicts in the Balkans waiting to be thawed out again... Almost like north and South Korea...

Now these frozen conflicts can stay frozen for centuries if the right policies are put in place and if foreigners stop meddling in the affairs of these nations... But if these governments in the Balkans do not create stability and foreigners are allowed to have free reign, then these frozen conflicts will thaw out quickly and we will once again have a crisis in the Balkans...

Unity in the Balkans is the only way we can survive and have peace and prosperity... We were divided by Western powers, they conquered Yugoslavia and created this mess which we are in... Look at Iraq, look at Libya and Afghanistan, there is divisions between all the people in these lands and it only happened when the West changed the balance of power in these nations...

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!

ethnicallypure

pre 8 godina

Lenny, you want another conflict so hrvat can be fully pure. Serbia has population of 20 percent non-serbs while Croatia is almost 100 percent hrvat. Remaining croats and muslims live peacefully in Sprska while in Mostar muslims and croats go to seperate schools like blacks and whites did in South Africa.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

"Nato's bombing campaign, with thousand of sorties and the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs, including sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging just 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo."
(Jugoslavija, 3 December 2015 13:35)

If what you claim is true, why then did Serbia wimp out by caving in just 70 days. You can't have it both ways. A little humanitarian bombing so long ago still gives you nightmares. How many times a night does mommy have to change your diapers.

Niko

pre 8 godina

@ Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
Not sure with what kind of Albanians you are hanging out, but it seems your mind is living in XIX century while your body is in the present.
Considering the current situation in Balkans, you can make the same assessment of lack of strong leaders for every country in the region.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Serbs have the same corrupted politicians as every nation in the Balkans.
I am Christian orthodox Albanian and Kosovar Albanians are our brothers even though they belong to a different clan or faith.
I have no sympathy at all for Serbs despite my religion being the same as theirs.

radical

pre 8 godina

Albi, tell that to those kids of Hoxha still living in Tirana. West wants to see even ethnically pure greeks while according to nazis in Washington, serbs should either convert to islam or cease to exist.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Well, why dont you carry out a poll like that Comm and see if you're right? You're asserting that your claim is fact baded on absolety nothing. The more you type, the more you prove that you'rr in serious need of a brain transplant

think about it

pre 8 godina

about 50% say 'Sharia'. If you ask Albanians if the nation or their clan is more important, you will have the same number.
(Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2015 18:26)
And the picture you paint warped in many ways. First what you claim as "clan" how is that different than the mentality of your SNS. SRS, etc. You follow the leaders blindly and it is absolute. How is it different than in the US as Republicans and Democrats, whos base follows the leadership blindly, the difference in the US is you have a core of middle grounders that vote on ideals and not party.
Now the Sharia law deal, what is presented in the anti muslim press is that the law of extremists is actually what Sharia law is, this is not true, to the majority of Muslims Sharia law is their religious way of living or moral code. The same as you have laws of the Orthodox Church which if you are devout you will not break.(As many Serbs committed murder, rape and torture believing they were operating within the laws of their faith)
It is similar to again in the US, Abortion is legal, but many claim it is a violation of their faith and they condemn those who participate in this state legal action.

We hear daily of many distortions of Shari law that are institued by the Islamic extremist, that the general muslim population also believe are distortions.
More than 1/5 of the world is Muslim, but only a fraction of that participate in Islamic extremism.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

Sir - I Quote you -

We must return to a unified country, we must never be divided, we must fight for our common Slavic heritage, we must work to strengthen ourselves and we must never let our past ruin our common future... We are southern Slavs whether you like it or not... We speak the same language....!
(Nikola Novakovic, 4 December 2015 12:57)

Comment - Genocide can only be reconciled by BLOD.
either the Guilty oneses or the Blood of Jesus Christ.

I do think it will be by the Guilty Oneses.

Arn.Sweden.

eric

pre 8 godina

how can serbia talk about peace when they started war and killed thousands of innocent people including infants. Just a waste of a meeting.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Andy,

It won't explode - but you have to remember one thing. For good or bad, maybe just to make you mad - the Serbs drive on the same side where Americans, Russians and Albanians do.

I drove twice in UK, it was excruciating experience.

And the worst is, all your rental cars have both the steering wheel and the gear-changing lever on completely wrong side. It is just abnormal. All the time I entered as driver your cars on the left side and sat down I was shocked: geeeee.... somebody stole the steering wheel!

Have no idea why you guys did not consider to drive the proper way. :-P

Noble Eagle

pre 8 godina

1) There will never be peace and stability in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula until the autochthonous inhabitants are free of colonial occupation.

2) Achieving a strong and lasting peace in the Illyric "Balkans" Peninsula starts with the annulment of the London Conference of 1912-1913 which divided millions of Albanians and half of Natural Historically and presently Ethnic Albanian territories from the Independent and Sovereign Albanian state declared on November 28, 1912.

3) Kosova, Ilirida, Chameria, Malësia, Presheva Valley, and Sanxhak must be returned to Mother Albania.