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Tuesday, 01.12.2015.

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Putin accuses Turkey of protecting Islamic State oil trade

Russian President Vladimir Putin has accused Turkey of shooting down a Russian bomber last month to protect oil deliveries it is receiving from Islamic State.

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CETNIK

pre 8 godina

@USTASE

When Croatian troops...... We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

This must explain why the Ukranian army with all its military equipment and tanks lost to the Russian defenders of Donetsk and the Don Bass regions. The Serbian Cetniks did their part;

A group of Serbian volunteers, helping Donetsk militia to fight government troops in eastern Ukraine says they have repelled an offensive of pro-Kiev military forces who attempted overnight to break through to a vital motorway.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20140812/191926807/Serbian-Volunteers-Destroy-Ukrainian-Artillery-in-Donetsk-Region.html#ixzz3tBwIQRss


IS this the same fearless Croatian army who were sent to Stalingrad and by Hitler and destroyed by the Russian Red Army. By the end of November, 5 officers, 9 NCOS, and 100 soldiers were all that was left of the 369th Croat Reinforced Regiment. They were reduced to eating 120 grams of horse meat and bread per day. On January 16 the Potomnik air strip was taken by Russian troops. The Germans could now only air drop food and supplies to the city. Gumrak, the last German air strip, fell on January 22 cutting 6th Army off completely. They were now doomed to a slow death by starvation.

rote

pre 8 godina

ЛЁНЯ : “Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt ... When Croatian troops poured in ... Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol“

Just think about THE CROATS WHO DEFEATED THE RUSSIANS ! Go back to your madhouse and finish the treatment! Yes we have 20 000-30 000 Croats buried like woods near Stalingrad but I’ve never heard that Croats had balls. So was in Mariupol when all the Nazi including the Croats flew away as soon as the Russian partisans (not army!) moved towards the city. Before the full stop command from Moscow came inside the city remained only Azov battalion. And they too were ready to evacuate because they could resist for 30-40 minutes only. But the USA blackmailed Russia of freezing our money and we had to stop.

Donbass tried to resume the assault Moscow stopped them again to prevent destruction of the city. Word Croat was several times mentioned in the context that someone saw Croat flags there but never as combat opponents. Poles fought and they fought well near Donetsk. About 1000 of them were killed and their dead bodies were evacuated aboard Polish planes. One plane with 86 Poles was hit down and all were ruined. But nobody saw any Croats on the battlefield. So don’t you listen to those HOW I WON THE WAR STORIES because there was no war in Mariupol. As you can see now we have seized the city through voting when 100% of the elected back Russia.

СЛАВЬСЯ ОТЕЧЕСТВО НАШЕ СВОБОДНОЕ !

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Avni, that i s right of people to deciede where they want to live, weather they want to be part of this Ukraine that is pro-Banderistic or they want to be independent. After all, it's neonazi's that started that war with putsch in Kiev with help of uncle Sam. Nothing simmilar with albanians.

rote

pre 8 godina

Frank S. : “Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another”


HIGH HOPES … http://en.lyrsense.com/pink_floyd/high_hopes

We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world
Eneumbered forever by desire and ambition
There's a hunger still unsatisfied
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon
Though down this road we've been so many time

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder ...

sj

pre 8 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 December 2015 19:09)
Just keep on repeating to yourself the US is strong, the US is strong and all your nightmares will; disappear. But if that is so why do both Turkey and the US stay away from Russians aircraft? I’ll tell you why, it’s because the Russians have told them if their aircraft come within a certain range they well shoot them down.
As I said before many times it the United States of Piss and Wind. Oh that’s right only the US can achieve 135% of GDP of debt and have no effect on their economy because the force is with them.
Yes Lord of the Dance, those western sanctions are having an effect on Russia, but if that is the case what has happened to the EU, US or China? Do they also have sanctions on them too?

sj

pre 8 godina

(Lenard, 1 December 2015 21:23)

Putin had trouble sleeping when he heard Ustashi had arrived. Do you know what the Russians did with foreign fighters? They would pour petrol over them and set them alight.
You can still send Croatian troops to Syria and show the Russians who is boss.
This guy is not paying with a full deck of cards.

Frank S.

pre 8 godina

Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !
(rote, 1 December 2015 14:15) Criminal KGB Putin's Russian terrorist with Serb fascist chetniks. Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt of Mariupol city Ukraine. When Croatian troops poured http://www.euinside.eu/en/news/russia-attacks-croatia-for-croatian-mercenaries-in-ukraine in to Mariupol and lighted up the KGB Russian terrorist armor columns. Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol. Scared the shit out KGB Putin and his fascist minions. That they soon sued for peace. We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Show weakness when you are strong.. and strength when you are weak.. anybody who thinks they can beat the American's should think about that before attacking..

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Putin is going to establish sanctions against Turkey. It appears that Western sanctions must be effective and they are choking Russia, otherwise why would Russia attempt to use them against Turkey. Putin is, unwittingly, admitting how crippling Western sanctions are against Russia. His tough talk about shooting down Turkish planes is just that, cheap talk. His S-400 has yet to be proven and will end up embarrassing Russia when it is destroyed by his enemies. We are all chuckling to see how Vlad will climb down when he is proven to be a charlatan and hypocrite.

The B92 Lenard Fan Club

pre 8 godina

The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined.
(Lenard, 1 December 2015 09:44)

No matter what time of year, what topic, and what event, Lenard will always make it about Croatia. That's why we love you, you little nutball.

Stay silly and stay medicated,

Navi

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

No, that's Poroshenko's Azov Guard. Get it right.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yeah sure, but other than a "strong case" Russia does not have any other "strong" thing to actually do it. A "strong case" does not magically make things happen! Is Czar Vlade willing to spend Russia's money and blood to actually do it?
----------

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yup, sounds very much like Russia :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said.

Ok, and Erdogan asked Putin to show the evidence supporting the statement above. Let's see if Putin has the evidence or if he is simply stating lies for domestic consumption since the Russian populace buys everything that Kremlin says.

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : “Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?”

Who are the terrorists in Ukraine ? seems that you are one of the few who still refrain the old mantras. Look around NATO does not know how to get rid of this bandits at power in Kiev and should Putin agree to accept “the gift” they would pay him much more than the redemption to the Turks. I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

Yes, it is, though this separatist ethnic minority, or armed terrorists supported by foreign countries, prefer to call themselves 'freedom fighters' - you can compare them to the terrorist and separatist ethnic minority KLA, which was supported by foreign countries as well.

rote

pre 8 godina

The incident with SU-24 has demonstrated two brotherhoods in arms being formed already :

- Turkey
- Qatar
- Saudistan
- USA

And

- Assad
- Russia
- Iran
- Hesbollah

Second pilot as we know was set free in cooperation by the special forces of Assad headed by general Qasem Soleimani (hero of Syria) from the Iranian Al-Quds special force and Hesbollah supported by the Russian marine force and the Russian air force. On the other side we have the Turcish special forces plus the Turcoman mujahidin and the Caucasian bandits. The rest of the world is busy with sanctions against Russia, climate problems, the refugees, terrorism in Europe ect. Most of the experts in Russia believe that we can finish the DAES and the kind without any coalition with the West while NATO will join us only 5 minutes before the end as it was in WW2.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists. The sooner Syrian sovereignty is restored the better.

Turkey is just another of those troublemakers of the Balkans and Middle East. Time to put an end to it and also to start arming the Kurds so they can finally free themselves.

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.

sj

pre 8 godina

Mullah Erdogan’s son profiting from ISIS oil is the worst kept secret and the US is well of what is going on. In fact after months of so called bombing by the US tit has had no effect on ISIS, but when you first drop pamphlets warning the “enemy” you will attack in the next 30 minutes or so is it any wonder the US success rate is so abysmally low.
.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin accuses Turkey of protecting Islamic State oil trade.

Indeed,it's a nice family business.The main source of money feeding ISIS these days is the sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields and Syrian one from Al Qaim region where they maintain a stronghold. Erdoğan's son is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible with the tacit approval and support of the US.
One would also argue that Erdogan's decision to shoot the Russian plane down wasn't influenced by his concern for the well being of his fellow turks & bosnians or albanians fighting Assad in Syria but it was influenced by the fact that the Russian bombing has destroyed a virtually all his son's contraband business.I think the most positive effect of the shooting of the Russian plane is Putin's implicit warning that any hostile plane in Syria will be shot down.This is very good news for the Kurds because now they have the protection of the Russian air force.Moreover the Kurds will be laughing all the way to independence.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said. Putin is just pulling straws. The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined. Croatian oil Co INA has contracts over a decade to extract the oil in Syria and northern Iraq. It is used to pay for Croatian armaments and other things for Kurd's and Iraq government.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin accuses Turkey of protecting Islamic State oil trade.

Indeed,it's a nice family business.The main source of money feeding ISIS these days is the sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields and Syrian one from Al Qaim region where they maintain a stronghold. Erdoğan's son is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible with the tacit approval and support of the US.
One would also argue that Erdogan's decision to shoot the Russian plane down wasn't influenced by his concern for the well being of his fellow turks & bosnians or albanians fighting Assad in Syria but it was influenced by the fact that the Russian bombing has destroyed a virtually all his son's contraband business.I think the most positive effect of the shooting of the Russian plane is Putin's implicit warning that any hostile plane in Syria will be shot down.This is very good news for the Kurds because now they have the protection of the Russian air force.Moreover the Kurds will be laughing all the way to independence.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists. The sooner Syrian sovereignty is restored the better.

Turkey is just another of those troublemakers of the Balkans and Middle East. Time to put an end to it and also to start arming the Kurds so they can finally free themselves.

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.

The B92 Lenard Fan Club

pre 8 godina

The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined.
(Lenard, 1 December 2015 09:44)

No matter what time of year, what topic, and what event, Lenard will always make it about Croatia. That's why we love you, you little nutball.

Stay silly and stay medicated,

sj

pre 8 godina

Mullah Erdogan’s son profiting from ISIS oil is the worst kept secret and the US is well of what is going on. In fact after months of so called bombing by the US tit has had no effect on ISIS, but when you first drop pamphlets warning the “enemy” you will attack in the next 30 minutes or so is it any wonder the US success rate is so abysmally low.
.

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : “Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?”

Who are the terrorists in Ukraine ? seems that you are one of the few who still refrain the old mantras. Look around NATO does not know how to get rid of this bandits at power in Kiev and should Putin agree to accept “the gift” they would pay him much more than the redemption to the Turks. I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !

rote

pre 8 godina

The incident with SU-24 has demonstrated two brotherhoods in arms being formed already :

- Turkey
- Qatar
- Saudistan
- USA

And

- Assad
- Russia
- Iran
- Hesbollah

Second pilot as we know was set free in cooperation by the special forces of Assad headed by general Qasem Soleimani (hero of Syria) from the Iranian Al-Quds special force and Hesbollah supported by the Russian marine force and the Russian air force. On the other side we have the Turcish special forces plus the Turcoman mujahidin and the Caucasian bandits. The rest of the world is busy with sanctions against Russia, climate problems, the refugees, terrorism in Europe ect. Most of the experts in Russia believe that we can finish the DAES and the kind without any coalition with the West while NATO will join us only 5 minutes before the end as it was in WW2.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

No, that's Poroshenko's Azov Guard. Get it right.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

Yes, it is, though this separatist ethnic minority, or armed terrorists supported by foreign countries, prefer to call themselves 'freedom fighters' - you can compare them to the terrorist and separatist ethnic minority KLA, which was supported by foreign countries as well.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yeah sure, but other than a "strong case" Russia does not have any other "strong" thing to actually do it. A "strong case" does not magically make things happen! Is Czar Vlade willing to spend Russia's money and blood to actually do it?
----------

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yup, sounds very much like Russia :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said.

Ok, and Erdogan asked Putin to show the evidence supporting the statement above. Let's see if Putin has the evidence or if he is simply stating lies for domestic consumption since the Russian populace buys everything that Kremlin says.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said. Putin is just pulling straws. The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined. Croatian oil Co INA has contracts over a decade to extract the oil in Syria and northern Iraq. It is used to pay for Croatian armaments and other things for Kurd's and Iraq government.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !
(rote, 1 December 2015 14:15) Criminal KGB Putin's Russian terrorist with Serb fascist chetniks. Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt of Mariupol city Ukraine. When Croatian troops poured http://www.euinside.eu/en/news/russia-attacks-croatia-for-croatian-mercenaries-in-ukraine in to Mariupol and lighted up the KGB Russian terrorist armor columns. Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol. Scared the shit out KGB Putin and his fascist minions. That they soon sued for peace. We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Putin is going to establish sanctions against Turkey. It appears that Western sanctions must be effective and they are choking Russia, otherwise why would Russia attempt to use them against Turkey. Putin is, unwittingly, admitting how crippling Western sanctions are against Russia. His tough talk about shooting down Turkish planes is just that, cheap talk. His S-400 has yet to be proven and will end up embarrassing Russia when it is destroyed by his enemies. We are all chuckling to see how Vlad will climb down when he is proven to be a charlatan and hypocrite.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Show weakness when you are strong.. and strength when you are weak.. anybody who thinks they can beat the American's should think about that before attacking..

Frank S.

pre 8 godina

Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another.

sj

pre 8 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 December 2015 19:09)
Just keep on repeating to yourself the US is strong, the US is strong and all your nightmares will; disappear. But if that is so why do both Turkey and the US stay away from Russians aircraft? I’ll tell you why, it’s because the Russians have told them if their aircraft come within a certain range they well shoot them down.
As I said before many times it the United States of Piss and Wind. Oh that’s right only the US can achieve 135% of GDP of debt and have no effect on their economy because the force is with them.
Yes Lord of the Dance, those western sanctions are having an effect on Russia, but if that is the case what has happened to the EU, US or China? Do they also have sanctions on them too?

rote

pre 8 godina

Frank S. : “Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another”


HIGH HOPES … http://en.lyrsense.com/pink_floyd/high_hopes

We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world
Eneumbered forever by desire and ambition
There's a hunger still unsatisfied
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon
Though down this road we've been so many time

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder ...

rote

pre 8 godina

ЛЁНЯ : “Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt ... When Croatian troops poured in ... Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol“

Just think about THE CROATS WHO DEFEATED THE RUSSIANS ! Go back to your madhouse and finish the treatment! Yes we have 20 000-30 000 Croats buried like woods near Stalingrad but I’ve never heard that Croats had balls. So was in Mariupol when all the Nazi including the Croats flew away as soon as the Russian partisans (not army!) moved towards the city. Before the full stop command from Moscow came inside the city remained only Azov battalion. And they too were ready to evacuate because they could resist for 30-40 minutes only. But the USA blackmailed Russia of freezing our money and we had to stop.

Donbass tried to resume the assault Moscow stopped them again to prevent destruction of the city. Word Croat was several times mentioned in the context that someone saw Croat flags there but never as combat opponents. Poles fought and they fought well near Donetsk. About 1000 of them were killed and their dead bodies were evacuated aboard Polish planes. One plane with 86 Poles was hit down and all were ruined. But nobody saw any Croats on the battlefield. So don’t you listen to those HOW I WON THE WAR STORIES because there was no war in Mariupol. As you can see now we have seized the city through voting when 100% of the elected back Russia.

СЛАВЬСЯ ОТЕЧЕСТВО НАШЕ СВОБОДНОЕ !

sj

pre 8 godina

(Lenard, 1 December 2015 21:23)

Putin had trouble sleeping when he heard Ustashi had arrived. Do you know what the Russians did with foreign fighters? They would pour petrol over them and set them alight.
You can still send Croatian troops to Syria and show the Russians who is boss.
This guy is not paying with a full deck of cards.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Avni, that i s right of people to deciede where they want to live, weather they want to be part of this Ukraine that is pro-Banderistic or they want to be independent. After all, it's neonazi's that started that war with putsch in Kiev with help of uncle Sam. Nothing simmilar with albanians.

CETNIK

pre 8 godina

@USTASE

When Croatian troops...... We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

This must explain why the Ukranian army with all its military equipment and tanks lost to the Russian defenders of Donetsk and the Don Bass regions. The Serbian Cetniks did their part;

A group of Serbian volunteers, helping Donetsk militia to fight government troops in eastern Ukraine says they have repelled an offensive of pro-Kiev military forces who attempted overnight to break through to a vital motorway.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20140812/191926807/Serbian-Volunteers-Destroy-Ukrainian-Artillery-in-Donetsk-Region.html#ixzz3tBwIQRss


IS this the same fearless Croatian army who were sent to Stalingrad and by Hitler and destroyed by the Russian Red Army. By the end of November, 5 officers, 9 NCOS, and 100 soldiers were all that was left of the 369th Croat Reinforced Regiment. They were reduced to eating 120 grams of horse meat and bread per day. On January 16 the Potomnik air strip was taken by Russian troops. The Germans could now only air drop food and supplies to the city. Gumrak, the last German air strip, fell on January 22 cutting 6th Army off completely. They were now doomed to a slow death by starvation.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said. Putin is just pulling straws. The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined. Croatian oil Co INA has contracts over a decade to extract the oil in Syria and northern Iraq. It is used to pay for Croatian armaments and other things for Kurd's and Iraq government.

icj1

pre 8 godina

"We have every reason to think that the decision to shoot down our plane was dictated by the desire to protect the oil supply lines to Turkish territory, right to the ports where it is loaded onto tankers," Putin said.

Ok, and Erdogan asked Putin to show the evidence supporting the statement above. Let's see if Putin has the evidence or if he is simply stating lies for domestic consumption since the Russian populace buys everything that Kremlin says.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

Yes, it is, though this separatist ethnic minority, or armed terrorists supported by foreign countries, prefer to call themselves 'freedom fighters' - you can compare them to the terrorist and separatist ethnic minority KLA, which was supported by foreign countries as well.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yeah sure, but other than a "strong case" Russia does not have any other "strong" thing to actually do it. A "strong case" does not magically make things happen! Is Czar Vlade willing to spend Russia's money and blood to actually do it?
----------

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.
(Zoran, 1 December 2015 12:37)

Yup, sounds very much like Russia :)

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : “Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?”

Who are the terrorists in Ukraine ? seems that you are one of the few who still refrain the old mantras. Look around NATO does not know how to get rid of this bandits at power in Kiev and should Putin agree to accept “the gift” they would pay him much more than the redemption to the Turks. I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !

Navi

pre 8 godina

Is this the same Putin who finances and arms terrorists in Eastern Ukraine?
(Avni, 1 December 2015 13:30)

No, that's Poroshenko's Azov Guard. Get it right.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Putin is going to establish sanctions against Turkey. It appears that Western sanctions must be effective and they are choking Russia, otherwise why would Russia attempt to use them against Turkey. Putin is, unwittingly, admitting how crippling Western sanctions are against Russia. His tough talk about shooting down Turkish planes is just that, cheap talk. His S-400 has yet to be proven and will end up embarrassing Russia when it is destroyed by his enemies. We are all chuckling to see how Vlad will climb down when he is proven to be a charlatan and hypocrite.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Show weakness when you are strong.. and strength when you are weak.. anybody who thinks they can beat the American's should think about that before attacking..

Lenard

pre 8 godina

I can tell you what will happen in Ukraine. When the regime falls down the remaining regions of this Russian land will be home one after another the way Crimea did. And even America will be happy to tie our money and time with restoring Ukraine. And of course Russia will never agree to any form of restoring Ukraine as a state. Because it’s too risky. Yesterday they have finally held elections in Mariupol city where almost half of the population (500 000 ) are Greeks. And what do we have there – none of the candidates from the NAZI regime was elected to the local parliament. Just none ! What terrorists are you talking about here? Forget about the Ukraine and think about something positive !
(rote, 1 December 2015 14:15) Criminal KGB Putin's Russian terrorist with Serb fascist chetniks. Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt of Mariupol city Ukraine. When Croatian troops poured http://www.euinside.eu/en/news/russia-attacks-croatia-for-croatian-mercenaries-in-ukraine in to Mariupol and lighted up the KGB Russian terrorist armor columns. Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol. Scared the shit out KGB Putin and his fascist minions. That they soon sued for peace. We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

rote

pre 8 godina

The incident with SU-24 has demonstrated two brotherhoods in arms being formed already :

- Turkey
- Qatar
- Saudistan
- USA

And

- Assad
- Russia
- Iran
- Hesbollah

Second pilot as we know was set free in cooperation by the special forces of Assad headed by general Qasem Soleimani (hero of Syria) from the Iranian Al-Quds special force and Hesbollah supported by the Russian marine force and the Russian air force. On the other side we have the Turcish special forces plus the Turcoman mujahidin and the Caucasian bandits. The rest of the world is busy with sanctions against Russia, climate problems, the refugees, terrorism in Europe ect. Most of the experts in Russia believe that we can finish the DAES and the kind without any coalition with the West while NATO will join us only 5 minutes before the end as it was in WW2.

The B92 Lenard Fan Club

pre 8 godina

The oil comes from Kurdistan and Kurd regions in Syria. It goes threw Turkey's port and is picked up by Croatian oil tanker ships to Croatian ports where it is refined.
(Lenard, 1 December 2015 09:44)

No matter what time of year, what topic, and what event, Lenard will always make it about Croatia. That's why we love you, you little nutball.

Stay silly and stay medicated,

sj

pre 8 godina

Mullah Erdogan’s son profiting from ISIS oil is the worst kept secret and the US is well of what is going on. In fact after months of so called bombing by the US tit has had no effect on ISIS, but when you first drop pamphlets warning the “enemy” you will attack in the next 30 minutes or so is it any wonder the US success rate is so abysmally low.
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Frank S.

pre 8 godina

Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin accuses Turkey of protecting Islamic State oil trade.

Indeed,it's a nice family business.The main source of money feeding ISIS these days is the sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields and Syrian one from Al Qaim region where they maintain a stronghold. Erdoğan's son is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible with the tacit approval and support of the US.
One would also argue that Erdogan's decision to shoot the Russian plane down wasn't influenced by his concern for the well being of his fellow turks & bosnians or albanians fighting Assad in Syria but it was influenced by the fact that the Russian bombing has destroyed a virtually all his son's contraband business.I think the most positive effect of the shooting of the Russian plane is Putin's implicit warning that any hostile plane in Syria will be shot down.This is very good news for the Kurds because now they have the protection of the Russian air force.Moreover the Kurds will be laughing all the way to independence.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Lenard, 1 December 2015 21:23)

Putin had trouble sleeping when he heard Ustashi had arrived. Do you know what the Russians did with foreign fighters? They would pour petrol over them and set them alight.
You can still send Croatian troops to Syria and show the Russians who is boss.
This guy is not paying with a full deck of cards.

sj

pre 8 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 1 December 2015 19:09)
Just keep on repeating to yourself the US is strong, the US is strong and all your nightmares will; disappear. But if that is so why do both Turkey and the US stay away from Russians aircraft? I’ll tell you why, it’s because the Russians have told them if their aircraft come within a certain range they well shoot them down.
As I said before many times it the United States of Piss and Wind. Oh that’s right only the US can achieve 135% of GDP of debt and have no effect on their economy because the force is with them.
Yes Lord of the Dance, those western sanctions are having an effect on Russia, but if that is the case what has happened to the EU, US or China? Do they also have sanctions on them too?

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

Avni, that i s right of people to deciede where they want to live, weather they want to be part of this Ukraine that is pro-Banderistic or they want to be independent. After all, it's neonazi's that started that war with putsch in Kiev with help of uncle Sam. Nothing simmilar with albanians.

rote

pre 8 godina

Frank S. : “Putin's main object is to have Western sanctions lifted. Russia's economy is quickly deteriorating and the low price of oil has hit Putin where it hurts most. Notice how he becomes more aggressive when his chips are down. Will he will go for broke or does he have the balls to stand up to NATO. The end game is near and he is now in survival mode. It won't be long before Russia implodes, one way or another”


HIGH HOPES … http://en.lyrsense.com/pink_floyd/high_hopes

We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world
Eneumbered forever by desire and ambition
There's a hunger still unsatisfied
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon
Though down this road we've been so many time

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder ...

rote

pre 8 godina

ЛЁНЯ : “Russian criminal terrorist were on the outskirt ... When Croatian troops poured in ... Defeated them pushed them way out of range of Mariupol“

Just think about THE CROATS WHO DEFEATED THE RUSSIANS ! Go back to your madhouse and finish the treatment! Yes we have 20 000-30 000 Croats buried like woods near Stalingrad but I’ve never heard that Croats had balls. So was in Mariupol when all the Nazi including the Croats flew away as soon as the Russian partisans (not army!) moved towards the city. Before the full stop command from Moscow came inside the city remained only Azov battalion. And they too were ready to evacuate because they could resist for 30-40 minutes only. But the USA blackmailed Russia of freezing our money and we had to stop.

Donbass tried to resume the assault Moscow stopped them again to prevent destruction of the city. Word Croat was several times mentioned in the context that someone saw Croat flags there but never as combat opponents. Poles fought and they fought well near Donetsk. About 1000 of them were killed and their dead bodies were evacuated aboard Polish planes. One plane with 86 Poles was hit down and all were ruined. But nobody saw any Croats on the battlefield. So don’t you listen to those HOW I WON THE WAR STORIES because there was no war in Mariupol. As you can see now we have seized the city through voting when 100% of the elected back Russia.

СЛАВЬСЯ ОТЕЧЕСТВО НАШЕ СВОБОДНОЕ !

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Russia has a strong case now to close the Syrian/Turkish border and to cut off funding and arms to terrorists. The sooner Syrian sovereignty is restored the better.

Turkey is just another of those troublemakers of the Balkans and Middle East. Time to put an end to it and also to start arming the Kurds so they can finally free themselves.

With the downing of a Russian jet, assassination of Kurdish lawyer Tahir Elci and jailing of journalists who exposed Turkish arming of terrorists, Turkey is showing its true evil colours.

CETNIK

pre 8 godina

@USTASE

When Croatian troops...... We should of driven the terrorist out of Ukraine completely back to Russia but EU is bunch of chickens.

This must explain why the Ukranian army with all its military equipment and tanks lost to the Russian defenders of Donetsk and the Don Bass regions. The Serbian Cetniks did their part;

A group of Serbian volunteers, helping Donetsk militia to fight government troops in eastern Ukraine says they have repelled an offensive of pro-Kiev military forces who attempted overnight to break through to a vital motorway.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20140812/191926807/Serbian-Volunteers-Destroy-Ukrainian-Artillery-in-Donetsk-Region.html#ixzz3tBwIQRss


IS this the same fearless Croatian army who were sent to Stalingrad and by Hitler and destroyed by the Russian Red Army. By the end of November, 5 officers, 9 NCOS, and 100 soldiers were all that was left of the 369th Croat Reinforced Regiment. They were reduced to eating 120 grams of horse meat and bread per day. On January 16 the Potomnik air strip was taken by Russian troops. The Germans could now only air drop food and supplies to the city. Gumrak, the last German air strip, fell on January 22 cutting 6th Army off completely. They were now doomed to a slow death by starvation.