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Monday, 30.11.2015.

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95 arrested in Pristina, Albin Kurti among them

The Kosovo police arrested Albin Kurti, founder of radical opposition Self-Determination party, and another 94 activists, in Pristina on Saturday.

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sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 1 December 2015 20:59)
According to the AI the west has unlimited funding and that’s good thing for Albanians who will reap the rewards when the west paves Pristina’s streets with 24 carat gold bricks LOL. We all await that day with bated breath.
The AI lives in another world or planet might be a better term or maybe it has not read a newspaper since 1999. Maybe the AI can come up to speed to reality land. It well know except to the AI that the EU funds the police, judiciary (and boy are they an eclectic group made of goat herders and camel jockeys that can barely sign their names) administration and a limited level of social security.
All this is a result of reading for that famous Albanian textbook that covers Alchemy and raising money trees. Perhaps the AI should have studied something else other than goat rearing and sheep dipping.
The AI is so delightfully stupid.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead.
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, the west has already done that because the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled that the West has collapsed and run out of cash!
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Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

That's great news for Kosovo that finally even the CE of B92 forums sj ruled that the EU controls Kosovo, not Serbia. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of being independent from Serbia and the CE of B92 forums sj has put his/her seal on that.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
(Joni, 1 December 2015 10:51)

Spreading your hate, as usual, Joni.

sj

pre 8 godina

We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Sadly the west will not allow any referendum in Kosovo. Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead. Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
The west is keen to sell all assets in Kosovo and they don’t give a crap about Albanians. Pristina signed the Brussels Agreement and it will be fully implemented. My God the Serbs saw you guys coming from 100 miles away.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I agree and support Albin Kurti. What he's saying is just the truth – he love his country.
Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
So is better to suffer a little now and resolve the problem, if not – soon or latter the “same history” will be repeated again.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

To Albanians that are against ZSO, I agree with you on that. Serbs should be given autonomy that Albanians had in 1974 and all rights that Albanians had on Kosovo and Metohija in that time. ZSO is simply not enough. Dont be a hypocrits this time. Albanians in south central Serbia (Pcinjski okrug) have more rights. To have Albanians being thought on territory of Serbia that terrorists are heroes is simply won't happen. Albanians need to bring back to Kosovo and Metohija all Serb refugees that they banished.

jsofnon

pre 8 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 30 November 2015 16:17)
Actually, any government can back out of any agreement at anytime for any reason. There are consequences and there were incentives on the table. So failure would be loss of the incentives (maybe?). And it is up to the provider of the incentives as to what damage is done and what it takes to either change the agreement so it is acceptable or force them back to the table, etc.
Now considering that most of the providers of the incentives in this case were on the side of Kosovo in the UNESCO bid ?
Have you seen any condemnation of Kosovo, by the leaders (not rogue politicians) for their suspension and delay of the agreement.
If not all of agreement is not implemented on the Kosovo side, and not all of it is implemented on the Serbian side, who do you think will suffer the most. If you remember Kosovo has been under pressure from the west to act in certain ways and have been advised each step of the way. Apparently the west see the UNESCO as a betrayal or you would see more from them.
You have a panel with international judges, overlooking this case and testing to see if it is in line with an internationally orchestrated constitution. This is bigger than Serbian tantrums, so sit in the corner and be quiet and await its fate.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Pretty soon you are going to be running back to Turkey where you belong.

CCCC

pre 8 godina

KosovO is Serbia! Albanians in Serbian Southern Province- Kosovo want it to be the part of Albania?! Walk over to your beloved Albania then!

Albanian

pre 8 godina

I have to agree with VV-Vetvendosje, no country on this planet earth allows a fraction of minority, to dictate what goes on in a country where majority dominates by well over 90%. Bosnia has had her share of issues because they allowed Serbs to have more powers than they deserve, and even western hemisphere has noticed they made a mistake. However, this will not happen in Kosova, because we have caught up to this problem before anything has taken place. Albanians in Serbia have absolutely no rights, they cannot even get Albanian books transported to areas where Albanian majority dominates.
Serbs in Kosova, have their own schools, no one regulates their education system, for all we know they could be preaching hate to these young Serbian Kosovars.
I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
Look at the situation in Ukraine couple of years ago, their pro-Russian leader almost handed Ukraine to Putin. What did the people do in Ukraine? Protested until they got rid of their cancer, and ousted to Russia. The same fate awaits out current leaders, make no mistake about it, we are not willing to step back, this is not where we turn back and call it a day. No sir, this will get fixed once and for all. If RS thinks they can have a referendum, then I say we should have one to unify with Albania. We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.

think about it

pre 8 godina

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 30 November 2015 09:56)
Kurti and the self determination group has never been about an independent Kosovo, it was to free Kosovo from Serbia to join Albania, where they think it should have been. He is totally against the western backed independence, so no Kosovo flags should not be a surprise.
I have to wonder your ideas on justice. You say they should have arrested Limaj because the main witness against him was found dead.
Now are you saying that anyone accused should be arrested even if there is no proof? Or are you inferring because this witness died(I am not familiar with it) so he had to be responsible so he should be arrested, again without proof. Or is it simply because he is an Albanian and was accused so he must be guilty? I am pretty sure it is number 3.
If the only thing standing between him and a guilty verdict was one witness does not sound like they had a solid case to start with.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 30 November 2015 15:59)

Sorry bud, it doesn't work like that. Kosovo signed up to the internationally-brokered agreements in 2013. It can't reject them just because it failed to get UNESCO membership. What are you, a bunch of spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum when you don't get your way? By opposing ZSO, Kosovo deserves to be barred from more than UNESCO.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

oh dear, you seem to hold Kosovo to a higher standard than you do say, Serbia. yes, Kosovo leaves a lot to be desired, however, that is not the reference to use, what we have to compare it to is how it was when the multi-ethnic-entity-that-is-Serbia ruled roost. if you thought that by year 8 of an as of yet unconsolidated independence, Kosovo would reach the standard of New Zealand, then you will be disappointed. oh, and I am not sure who has ever said that Kosovo is Europe's main drug hub.
"And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country"
are you so sure? the ethnic structure of Kosovo is similar to what it was in early to late 90's, or are you counting Serbians who had come from Croatia as ethnic Kosovar Serbs now? p.s. when we see other ethnicies in tents in Bllace like we did in 99, come and talk to me about forced deportations

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know"
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)

It bothers me only that way that your Kosovo Albanian mates turned Kosovo into Europe's main drug hub and a hotbed of criminality, exported to whole Europe. If these thing would be stop, I couldn't care less if Kosovo citizens obviously want that their 'country' to stay the black hole in Europe, since they vote again and again either criminals or violent extremist rioters into the parliament.

P.S: 'Multiethnic' means that citizens can belong to different ethnicities, and still have the same rights (including minority rights). And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country, voluntarily or not so voluntarily. But we agree that Kosovo will never be multi-ethnic, that's why I called the 'democratic, multi-ethnic Kosovo' a stillborn.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Although I don't like Kurti and VV,I think Association of Serb Municipals must be abolish from Constitution Court.
It will create another RS in Kosovo and Kosovo is going to get nothing in return for allowing Serbs to do whatever they want in territory of Kosovo.
The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)
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Can you tell me what the six stars on the "Kosova"* flag represent?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@ Comm

Why doesn't EULEX (the one that ordered Ivanovic's arrest) do the same for Kuci and then your request will have been granted? I fail to see how Ivanovic being kept custody is the fault of Kosovo's institution, just another opportunity for you to bash Kosovo.
"Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag." we enjoy the freedom to fly other countries flags, why is this a problem? why is it even worth mentioning?
"Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic...2 having kept Kosovo inside Serbia would have also been an illusiobn of a mutli-ethnic entity. p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know

historyrepeats

pre 8 godina

Can't blame this one on Belgrade. Albos and bosnas had illusions that once Milosevic was gone than Allah would give them rainbows and lemons. I remember albanians screaming when Sloba sent his police to crush their riots 'Democracy, democracy, democracy...'. It would be even more hilarious, if opposition leader was imprisoned due to 'terrorism against the state', albanians whined louder than opera when that guy Selim or someone named like that was imprisoned by Milosevic due to counter revolutionary activities.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Kurti is a racist...

He cannot accept that Serbs are 3 kilometres from pristina... He must hate Serbs so much that he would burn down their churches and kill their children...!

Kurti is not someone which would allow a multicultural Kosovo, something which the majority of Serbs want along with significant numbers of Albanians... It is people like Kurti which supported terrorist attacks on Serbs in the 90s, it was people like Kurti which caused Milosevic to crack down on the KLA, it is people like Kurti which ruined Kosovo for the Serbs and Albanians...

Kurti is a racist scum, and all of his Islamist supporters are racist... They look at Serbs as
Christian scum! Kurti and his supporters should all be charged with inciting hatred and racism against Serbs and driving policies to unite Kosovo with Albania... Kurti should focus less on his racist policies and more on providing jobs for his people, creating a good environment for investment, but instead he causes instability which drives investors and jobs out of Kosovo...

Kurti should be exiled to Albania so the people of Kosovo can start to rebuild their lives and create a multicultural future where all people can prosper and thrive in this autonomous democratic province of Serbia. We need less Kurtis in the world and more acceptance of different ethnicities... The MPs in Kosovo must work with Serbia to provide a stable and prosperous society in Kosovo for the sake of the people, not for ideology....!

shoehorngenius

pre 8 godina

What future is their Nikola, after prices of few metals it used to produce collapsed. I suppose Seselj will claim that west caused price of nickel to collapse just to hurt Kosovo Serbs. These type of provocations are not useful to anyone, they should try to build competitive industry together. I understand though that people of all sides there are angry since half of them are unemployed.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground."
(Gjon Marku, 30 November 2015 11:36)


Makes a lot of sense. Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic, democratic' Kosovo is a stillborn, created by western powers who, like little kids, believed in the illusion that such a state is possible.

It would have saved a lot of money, time and trouble for everyone (including western Europe) if they would have split Kosovo immediately, letting the northern part stay within Serbia, giving the southern part to Albania, and creating a special status and international protection for the enclaves and holy places who are endangered even nowadays.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

@Comm. Parrisson

The thing about the flags you mentioned. The protest are organized by a political Party called Vetvendosje (self-determination). They refuse the Kosovo Flag as it doesnt represent Kosovos People.

Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Finally. I hope Kurti will stay in custody at least as long as Ivanovic - though I don't have much hope, KPS will set him free as soon as some of his rioting hooligan supporters appear in front of the police station.

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Kurti is a racist...

He cannot accept that Serbs are 3 kilometres from pristina... He must hate Serbs so much that he would burn down their churches and kill their children...!

Kurti is not someone which would allow a multicultural Kosovo, something which the majority of Serbs want along with significant numbers of Albanians... It is people like Kurti which supported terrorist attacks on Serbs in the 90s, it was people like Kurti which caused Milosevic to crack down on the KLA, it is people like Kurti which ruined Kosovo for the Serbs and Albanians...

Kurti is a racist scum, and all of his Islamist supporters are racist... They look at Serbs as
Christian scum! Kurti and his supporters should all be charged with inciting hatred and racism against Serbs and driving policies to unite Kosovo with Albania... Kurti should focus less on his racist policies and more on providing jobs for his people, creating a good environment for investment, but instead he causes instability which drives investors and jobs out of Kosovo...

Kurti should be exiled to Albania so the people of Kosovo can start to rebuild their lives and create a multicultural future where all people can prosper and thrive in this autonomous democratic province of Serbia. We need less Kurtis in the world and more acceptance of different ethnicities... The MPs in Kosovo must work with Serbia to provide a stable and prosperous society in Kosovo for the sake of the people, not for ideology....!

historyrepeats

pre 8 godina

Can't blame this one on Belgrade. Albos and bosnas had illusions that once Milosevic was gone than Allah would give them rainbows and lemons. I remember albanians screaming when Sloba sent his police to crush their riots 'Democracy, democracy, democracy...'. It would be even more hilarious, if opposition leader was imprisoned due to 'terrorism against the state', albanians whined louder than opera when that guy Selim or someone named like that was imprisoned by Milosevic due to counter revolutionary activities.

Albanian

pre 8 godina

I have to agree with VV-Vetvendosje, no country on this planet earth allows a fraction of minority, to dictate what goes on in a country where majority dominates by well over 90%. Bosnia has had her share of issues because they allowed Serbs to have more powers than they deserve, and even western hemisphere has noticed they made a mistake. However, this will not happen in Kosova, because we have caught up to this problem before anything has taken place. Albanians in Serbia have absolutely no rights, they cannot even get Albanian books transported to areas where Albanian majority dominates.
Serbs in Kosova, have their own schools, no one regulates their education system, for all we know they could be preaching hate to these young Serbian Kosovars.
I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
Look at the situation in Ukraine couple of years ago, their pro-Russian leader almost handed Ukraine to Putin. What did the people do in Ukraine? Protested until they got rid of their cancer, and ousted to Russia. The same fate awaits out current leaders, make no mistake about it, we are not willing to step back, this is not where we turn back and call it a day. No sir, this will get fixed once and for all. If RS thinks they can have a referendum, then I say we should have one to unify with Albania. We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Finally. I hope Kurti will stay in custody at least as long as Ivanovic - though I don't have much hope, KPS will set him free as soon as some of his rioting hooligan supporters appear in front of the police station.

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)
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Can you tell me what the six stars on the "Kosova"* flag represent?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground."
(Gjon Marku, 30 November 2015 11:36)


Makes a lot of sense. Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic, democratic' Kosovo is a stillborn, created by western powers who, like little kids, believed in the illusion that such a state is possible.

It would have saved a lot of money, time and trouble for everyone (including western Europe) if they would have split Kosovo immediately, letting the northern part stay within Serbia, giving the southern part to Albania, and creating a special status and international protection for the enclaves and holy places who are endangered even nowadays.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 30 November 2015 15:59)

Sorry bud, it doesn't work like that. Kosovo signed up to the internationally-brokered agreements in 2013. It can't reject them just because it failed to get UNESCO membership. What are you, a bunch of spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum when you don't get your way? By opposing ZSO, Kosovo deserves to be barred from more than UNESCO.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know"
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)

It bothers me only that way that your Kosovo Albanian mates turned Kosovo into Europe's main drug hub and a hotbed of criminality, exported to whole Europe. If these thing would be stop, I couldn't care less if Kosovo citizens obviously want that their 'country' to stay the black hole in Europe, since they vote again and again either criminals or violent extremist rioters into the parliament.

P.S: 'Multiethnic' means that citizens can belong to different ethnicities, and still have the same rights (including minority rights). And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country, voluntarily or not so voluntarily. But we agree that Kosovo will never be multi-ethnic, that's why I called the 'democratic, multi-ethnic Kosovo' a stillborn.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Although I don't like Kurti and VV,I think Association of Serb Municipals must be abolish from Constitution Court.
It will create another RS in Kosovo and Kosovo is going to get nothing in return for allowing Serbs to do whatever they want in territory of Kosovo.
The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.

think about it

pre 8 godina

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 30 November 2015 09:56)
Kurti and the self determination group has never been about an independent Kosovo, it was to free Kosovo from Serbia to join Albania, where they think it should have been. He is totally against the western backed independence, so no Kosovo flags should not be a surprise.
I have to wonder your ideas on justice. You say they should have arrested Limaj because the main witness against him was found dead.
Now are you saying that anyone accused should be arrested even if there is no proof? Or are you inferring because this witness died(I am not familiar with it) so he had to be responsible so he should be arrested, again without proof. Or is it simply because he is an Albanian and was accused so he must be guilty? I am pretty sure it is number 3.
If the only thing standing between him and a guilty verdict was one witness does not sound like they had a solid case to start with.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

@Comm. Parrisson

The thing about the flags you mentioned. The protest are organized by a political Party called Vetvendosje (self-determination). They refuse the Kosovo Flag as it doesnt represent Kosovos People.

Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@ Comm

Why doesn't EULEX (the one that ordered Ivanovic's arrest) do the same for Kuci and then your request will have been granted? I fail to see how Ivanovic being kept custody is the fault of Kosovo's institution, just another opportunity for you to bash Kosovo.
"Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag." we enjoy the freedom to fly other countries flags, why is this a problem? why is it even worth mentioning?
"Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic...2 having kept Kosovo inside Serbia would have also been an illusiobn of a mutli-ethnic entity. p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

oh dear, you seem to hold Kosovo to a higher standard than you do say, Serbia. yes, Kosovo leaves a lot to be desired, however, that is not the reference to use, what we have to compare it to is how it was when the multi-ethnic-entity-that-is-Serbia ruled roost. if you thought that by year 8 of an as of yet unconsolidated independence, Kosovo would reach the standard of New Zealand, then you will be disappointed. oh, and I am not sure who has ever said that Kosovo is Europe's main drug hub.
"And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country"
are you so sure? the ethnic structure of Kosovo is similar to what it was in early to late 90's, or are you counting Serbians who had come from Croatia as ethnic Kosovar Serbs now? p.s. when we see other ethnicies in tents in Bllace like we did in 99, come and talk to me about forced deportations

CCCC

pre 8 godina

KosovO is Serbia! Albanians in Serbian Southern Province- Kosovo want it to be the part of Albania?! Walk over to your beloved Albania then!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Pretty soon you are going to be running back to Turkey where you belong.

shoehorngenius

pre 8 godina

What future is their Nikola, after prices of few metals it used to produce collapsed. I suppose Seselj will claim that west caused price of nickel to collapse just to hurt Kosovo Serbs. These type of provocations are not useful to anyone, they should try to build competitive industry together. I understand though that people of all sides there are angry since half of them are unemployed.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I agree and support Albin Kurti. What he's saying is just the truth – he love his country.
Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
So is better to suffer a little now and resolve the problem, if not – soon or latter the “same history” will be repeated again.

jsofnon

pre 8 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 30 November 2015 16:17)
Actually, any government can back out of any agreement at anytime for any reason. There are consequences and there were incentives on the table. So failure would be loss of the incentives (maybe?). And it is up to the provider of the incentives as to what damage is done and what it takes to either change the agreement so it is acceptable or force them back to the table, etc.
Now considering that most of the providers of the incentives in this case were on the side of Kosovo in the UNESCO bid ?
Have you seen any condemnation of Kosovo, by the leaders (not rogue politicians) for their suspension and delay of the agreement.
If not all of agreement is not implemented on the Kosovo side, and not all of it is implemented on the Serbian side, who do you think will suffer the most. If you remember Kosovo has been under pressure from the west to act in certain ways and have been advised each step of the way. Apparently the west see the UNESCO as a betrayal or you would see more from them.
You have a panel with international judges, overlooking this case and testing to see if it is in line with an internationally orchestrated constitution. This is bigger than Serbian tantrums, so sit in the corner and be quiet and await its fate.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
(Joni, 1 December 2015 10:51)

Spreading your hate, as usual, Joni.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead.
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, the west has already done that because the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled that the West has collapsed and run out of cash!
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Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

That's great news for Kosovo that finally even the CE of B92 forums sj ruled that the EU controls Kosovo, not Serbia. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of being independent from Serbia and the CE of B92 forums sj has put his/her seal on that.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Sadly the west will not allow any referendum in Kosovo. Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead. Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
The west is keen to sell all assets in Kosovo and they don’t give a crap about Albanians. Pristina signed the Brussels Agreement and it will be fully implemented. My God the Serbs saw you guys coming from 100 miles away.

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 1 December 2015 20:59)
According to the AI the west has unlimited funding and that’s good thing for Albanians who will reap the rewards when the west paves Pristina’s streets with 24 carat gold bricks LOL. We all await that day with bated breath.
The AI lives in another world or planet might be a better term or maybe it has not read a newspaper since 1999. Maybe the AI can come up to speed to reality land. It well know except to the AI that the EU funds the police, judiciary (and boy are they an eclectic group made of goat herders and camel jockeys that can barely sign their names) administration and a limited level of social security.
All this is a result of reading for that famous Albanian textbook that covers Alchemy and raising money trees. Perhaps the AI should have studied something else other than goat rearing and sheep dipping.
The AI is so delightfully stupid.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

To Albanians that are against ZSO, I agree with you on that. Serbs should be given autonomy that Albanians had in 1974 and all rights that Albanians had on Kosovo and Metohija in that time. ZSO is simply not enough. Dont be a hypocrits this time. Albanians in south central Serbia (Pcinjski okrug) have more rights. To have Albanians being thought on territory of Serbia that terrorists are heroes is simply won't happen. Albanians need to bring back to Kosovo and Metohija all Serb refugees that they banished.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Although I don't like Kurti and VV,I think Association of Serb Municipals must be abolish from Constitution Court.
It will create another RS in Kosovo and Kosovo is going to get nothing in return for allowing Serbs to do whatever they want in territory of Kosovo.
The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

@Comm. Parrisson

The thing about the flags you mentioned. The protest are organized by a political Party called Vetvendosje (self-determination). They refuse the Kosovo Flag as it doesnt represent Kosovos People.

Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@ Comm

Why doesn't EULEX (the one that ordered Ivanovic's arrest) do the same for Kuci and then your request will have been granted? I fail to see how Ivanovic being kept custody is the fault of Kosovo's institution, just another opportunity for you to bash Kosovo.
"Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag." we enjoy the freedom to fly other countries flags, why is this a problem? why is it even worth mentioning?
"Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic...2 having kept Kosovo inside Serbia would have also been an illusiobn of a mutli-ethnic entity. p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

oh dear, you seem to hold Kosovo to a higher standard than you do say, Serbia. yes, Kosovo leaves a lot to be desired, however, that is not the reference to use, what we have to compare it to is how it was when the multi-ethnic-entity-that-is-Serbia ruled roost. if you thought that by year 8 of an as of yet unconsolidated independence, Kosovo would reach the standard of New Zealand, then you will be disappointed. oh, and I am not sure who has ever said that Kosovo is Europe's main drug hub.
"And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country"
are you so sure? the ethnic structure of Kosovo is similar to what it was in early to late 90's, or are you counting Serbians who had come from Croatia as ethnic Kosovar Serbs now? p.s. when we see other ethnicies in tents in Bllace like we did in 99, come and talk to me about forced deportations

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

Kurti is a racist...

He cannot accept that Serbs are 3 kilometres from pristina... He must hate Serbs so much that he would burn down their churches and kill their children...!

Kurti is not someone which would allow a multicultural Kosovo, something which the majority of Serbs want along with significant numbers of Albanians... It is people like Kurti which supported terrorist attacks on Serbs in the 90s, it was people like Kurti which caused Milosevic to crack down on the KLA, it is people like Kurti which ruined Kosovo for the Serbs and Albanians...

Kurti is a racist scum, and all of his Islamist supporters are racist... They look at Serbs as
Christian scum! Kurti and his supporters should all be charged with inciting hatred and racism against Serbs and driving policies to unite Kosovo with Albania... Kurti should focus less on his racist policies and more on providing jobs for his people, creating a good environment for investment, but instead he causes instability which drives investors and jobs out of Kosovo...

Kurti should be exiled to Albania so the people of Kosovo can start to rebuild their lives and create a multicultural future where all people can prosper and thrive in this autonomous democratic province of Serbia. We need less Kurtis in the world and more acceptance of different ethnicities... The MPs in Kosovo must work with Serbia to provide a stable and prosperous society in Kosovo for the sake of the people, not for ideology....!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

The moment that Serbia and her allies blocked the membership of Kosovo in UNESCO, Kosovo must stop implementing all the agreements with Serbia.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 30 November 2015 15:59)

Sorry bud, it doesn't work like that. Kosovo signed up to the internationally-brokered agreements in 2013. It can't reject them just because it failed to get UNESCO membership. What are you, a bunch of spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum when you don't get your way? By opposing ZSO, Kosovo deserves to be barred from more than UNESCO.

Albanian

pre 8 godina

I have to agree with VV-Vetvendosje, no country on this planet earth allows a fraction of minority, to dictate what goes on in a country where majority dominates by well over 90%. Bosnia has had her share of issues because they allowed Serbs to have more powers than they deserve, and even western hemisphere has noticed they made a mistake. However, this will not happen in Kosova, because we have caught up to this problem before anything has taken place. Albanians in Serbia have absolutely no rights, they cannot even get Albanian books transported to areas where Albanian majority dominates.
Serbs in Kosova, have their own schools, no one regulates their education system, for all we know they could be preaching hate to these young Serbian Kosovars.
I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
Look at the situation in Ukraine couple of years ago, their pro-Russian leader almost handed Ukraine to Putin. What did the people do in Ukraine? Protested until they got rid of their cancer, and ousted to Russia. The same fate awaits out current leaders, make no mistake about it, we are not willing to step back, this is not where we turn back and call it a day. No sir, this will get fixed once and for all. If RS thinks they can have a referendum, then I say we should have one to unify with Albania. We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know"
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)

It bothers me only that way that your Kosovo Albanian mates turned Kosovo into Europe's main drug hub and a hotbed of criminality, exported to whole Europe. If these thing would be stop, I couldn't care less if Kosovo citizens obviously want that their 'country' to stay the black hole in Europe, since they vote again and again either criminals or violent extremist rioters into the parliament.

P.S: 'Multiethnic' means that citizens can belong to different ethnicities, and still have the same rights (including minority rights). And yes, now 93% belong to the same ethnicity, after some 100.000s people of other ethnicity left the country, voluntarily or not so voluntarily. But we agree that Kosovo will never be multi-ethnic, that's why I called the 'democratic, multi-ethnic Kosovo' a stillborn.

CCCC

pre 8 godina

KosovO is Serbia! Albanians in Serbian Southern Province- Kosovo want it to be the part of Albania?! Walk over to your beloved Albania then!

historyrepeats

pre 8 godina

Can't blame this one on Belgrade. Albos and bosnas had illusions that once Milosevic was gone than Allah would give them rainbows and lemons. I remember albanians screaming when Sloba sent his police to crush their riots 'Democracy, democracy, democracy...'. It would be even more hilarious, if opposition leader was imprisoned due to 'terrorism against the state', albanians whined louder than opera when that guy Selim or someone named like that was imprisoned by Milosevic due to counter revolutionary activities.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

p.s. define multi-ethnic, 93% of Kosovo's population belong to only one ethnicity, it will never be multi-ethnic in the way the US is multi ethnic. why this bothers you, I honestly don't know
(Nikolle, 30 November 2015 12:32)
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Can you tell me what the six stars on the "Kosova"* flag represent?

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I think the double standard favors are over for Serbs in Kosova, if they want to rule and dominate so badly, then kindly walk your way back to Serbia.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Pretty soon you are going to be running back to Turkey where you belong.

think about it

pre 8 godina

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 30 November 2015 09:56)
Kurti and the self determination group has never been about an independent Kosovo, it was to free Kosovo from Serbia to join Albania, where they think it should have been. He is totally against the western backed independence, so no Kosovo flags should not be a surprise.
I have to wonder your ideas on justice. You say they should have arrested Limaj because the main witness against him was found dead.
Now are you saying that anyone accused should be arrested even if there is no proof? Or are you inferring because this witness died(I am not familiar with it) so he had to be responsible so he should be arrested, again without proof. Or is it simply because he is an Albanian and was accused so he must be guilty? I am pretty sure it is number 3.
If the only thing standing between him and a guilty verdict was one witness does not sound like they had a solid case to start with.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Finally. I hope Kurti will stay in custody at least as long as Ivanovic - though I don't have much hope, KPS will set him free as soon as some of his rioting hooligan supporters appear in front of the police station.

P.S: They should have arrested the criminal Limaj as well. You know, this person who was accused of war crimes, and where the main witness who wanted to testified against him was found dead, miraculously so he could be freed of all charges.

P.P.S. Nice picture, btw. Always interesting, the flags. I see an USA flag, a lot of Albanian flags, but no Kosovo flag. It's funny for a group of protesters who claim they want to save Kosovo.

sj

pre 8 godina

We too have every card possible to play, I hope Serbs realize it in RS.
(Albanian, 30 November 2015 18:38)

Sadly the west will not allow any referendum in Kosovo. Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead. Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
The west is keen to sell all assets in Kosovo and they don’t give a crap about Albanians. Pristina signed the Brussels Agreement and it will be fully implemented. My God the Serbs saw you guys coming from 100 miles away.

shoehorngenius

pre 8 godina

What future is their Nikola, after prices of few metals it used to produce collapsed. I suppose Seselj will claim that west caused price of nickel to collapse just to hurt Kosovo Serbs. These type of provocations are not useful to anyone, they should try to build competitive industry together. I understand though that people of all sides there are angry since half of them are unemployed.

RighteousBilly

pre 8 godina

To Albanians that are against ZSO, I agree with you on that. Serbs should be given autonomy that Albanians had in 1974 and all rights that Albanians had on Kosovo and Metohija in that time. ZSO is simply not enough. Dont be a hypocrits this time. Albanians in south central Serbia (Pcinjski okrug) have more rights. To have Albanians being thought on territory of Serbia that terrorists are heroes is simply won't happen. Albanians need to bring back to Kosovo and Metohija all Serb refugees that they banished.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Even if I dont agree with VV on other topics, I agree with them on this topic. The only flag the people will accept is the eagle. Even during Yugoslavia times, Kosvo was represented with the black eagle on red ground."
(Gjon Marku, 30 November 2015 11:36)


Makes a lot of sense. Only confirms my opinion that this 'multi-ethnic, democratic' Kosovo is a stillborn, created by western powers who, like little kids, believed in the illusion that such a state is possible.

It would have saved a lot of money, time and trouble for everyone (including western Europe) if they would have split Kosovo immediately, letting the northern part stay within Serbia, giving the southern part to Albania, and creating a special status and international protection for the enclaves and holy places who are endangered even nowadays.

Gerhard

pre 8 godina

Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
(Joni, 1 December 2015 10:51)

Spreading your hate, as usual, Joni.

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 1 December 2015 20:59)
According to the AI the west has unlimited funding and that’s good thing for Albanians who will reap the rewards when the west paves Pristina’s streets with 24 carat gold bricks LOL. We all await that day with bated breath.
The AI lives in another world or planet might be a better term or maybe it has not read a newspaper since 1999. Maybe the AI can come up to speed to reality land. It well know except to the AI that the EU funds the police, judiciary (and boy are they an eclectic group made of goat herders and camel jockeys that can barely sign their names) administration and a limited level of social security.
All this is a result of reading for that famous Albanian textbook that covers Alchemy and raising money trees. Perhaps the AI should have studied something else other than goat rearing and sheep dipping.
The AI is so delightfully stupid.

jsofnon

pre 8 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 30 November 2015 16:17)
Actually, any government can back out of any agreement at anytime for any reason. There are consequences and there were incentives on the table. So failure would be loss of the incentives (maybe?). And it is up to the provider of the incentives as to what damage is done and what it takes to either change the agreement so it is acceptable or force them back to the table, etc.
Now considering that most of the providers of the incentives in this case were on the side of Kosovo in the UNESCO bid ?
Have you seen any condemnation of Kosovo, by the leaders (not rogue politicians) for their suspension and delay of the agreement.
If not all of agreement is not implemented on the Kosovo side, and not all of it is implemented on the Serbian side, who do you think will suffer the most. If you remember Kosovo has been under pressure from the west to act in certain ways and have been advised each step of the way. Apparently the west see the UNESCO as a betrayal or you would see more from them.
You have a panel with international judges, overlooking this case and testing to see if it is in line with an internationally orchestrated constitution. This is bigger than Serbian tantrums, so sit in the corner and be quiet and await its fate.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I agree and support Albin Kurti. What he's saying is just the truth – he love his country.
Is a lie to believe that we must live with Serbs – we can’t. This is the truth!
So is better to suffer a little now and resolve the problem, if not – soon or latter the “same history” will be repeated again.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Always remember that all the west has to do is stop funding Kosovo and your dead.
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, the west has already done that because the CE of B92 forums sj has already ruled that the West has collapsed and run out of cash!
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Don’t kid yourself that Kosovo is a country since the EU runs it lock, stock and barrel. All institutions are controlled by the EU and if Brussels tell you to jump, Pristina asks how high?
(sj, 1 December 2015 11:10)

That's great news for Kosovo that finally even the CE of B92 forums sj ruled that the EU controls Kosovo, not Serbia. That means that Kosovo has achieved its goal of being independent from Serbia and the CE of B92 forums sj has put his/her seal on that.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist