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Tuesday, 24.11.2015.

09:17

Turkey shoots down Russian military plane

A Russian Su-24 plane has been shot down on the border of Turkey and Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Tuesday.

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sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To a different point of view,
Money talk's,you don't pay,then the gas stop's,no brother when money is not paid.Ask yourself if your boss ,doesn't pay you after a honest day work,you will leave!
The Balkans saying,what you pay the musician, is how much music you get at a kafana.

bs runs deep

pre 8 godina

For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.
(sj, 24 November 2015 23:08)
Reminds me of the announcement a couple of weeks ago that Serbia was going to buy some military equipment from Russia, only problem is when you do not have money to buy batteries for the planes you have, not much of a chance of buying a whole plane.

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!
(sasa.p, 25 November 2015 01:04)
You uncovered the real reason south stream was shut down. People want to stay warm in the winter, so why would any intelligent person make themselves more dependent on a country that has a history of shutting down the flow of gas if things are not to their liking.
Remember last year Russia threatened to do the same to Serbia until Vucic went to Russia and kissed butt and promised a payment plan for their arrears, which was not significant. And they are "brothers".

sj

pre 8 godina

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)
(icj1, 25 November 2015 02:23)

Spoken like a true buffoon AI.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Like I mentioned in a previous post, Russia will now deploy, not S300s but the more advanced S400 defence missile system. Turkey can forget about flying into Syrian airspace to attack Kurds or for any other reason every again. The Kurds can now be armed and safe knowing that Turkey will not attack so separatist Kurds can now escalate their activities in Turkey.

I've always thought Turkey will be the first NATO member to fall and now I'm more convinced than ever. It will be known as rump Turkey soon enough.

Check -> https://www.rt.com/news/323379-s400-russia-syria-airbase/

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.
(Jugoslavija, 24 November 2015 17:30)

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To real knowledgeable,
So what,that Romania and Bulgaria are in EU. Greece,Croatia as well is in EU,and have sign for Russian gas.
Even Italy is expressing interest.
Norway gas can't get to the Balkans and will see when Qatar gas work starts.So non EU friendly governments get voted in Romania and Bulgaria, Russian gas will start.Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!

sj

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

I love illiterate people because they make the dumbest remarks. Hey Abudlla try reading some history before opening your big mouth next time.

sj

pre 8 godina

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 24 November 2015 16:14)

Our resident crackpot, the AI, strikes again. Me thinks it has swallowed a dictionary using such complex words as implement and comprehend.
Ahh you can always rely on the AI to prove to us what an idiot it really is.

P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

sj

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 21:47)

Perhaps you might tell this fact to the Kurds who crap all over the Turks every time the Turks go into Kurdistan. For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.

Naim

pre 8 godina

Well - your head is to up. Yes Ofcourse you get shot down and so will be until you understand that crossing in the territory of organisation called NATO you will be smashed.
Watch your planes and mind your territory - they will get smashed.
Same with all NATO members remember if you cross to Albania, Croatia or Poland and all others you will be shot at. I LOVE IT.

not1914anymore

pre 8 godina

Not going to happen Navi, not without you serbs going along with it. Zoran, I bet your beloved S-300 is realky as lousy as these planes were.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. "
(Navi, 24 November 2015 20:08)

Yes, and how crazy in his mind must Mullah Erdogan be when thinks he can recreate a new Ottoman empire? But with this he had something in common with Putin, who thinks Russia can have the influence, power and weight in the world the former Soviet Union once had. These times are all over and gone.

Navi

pre 8 godina

you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. Kurds continue to kill lots of Turks and that's a great thing.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Someting for rote and yugolsavija and nikola novakovic that happen at 1 december and that is before the storm from 2017 ! http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/politic/iohannis-promulga-majorarile-promise-de-guvernul-ponta-25-in-plus-pentru-medici-10-in-plus-pentru-toti-bugetarii.html

As for event from today with the plane i had let so many comments because i not been so HAPPY seince a long time

I have one word as a conclusion LOVELY

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1


I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!



I TAKE YOUR WORDS AS A PERSONAL INSULT - AM I WORKING IN VAIN HERE ?

icj1

pre 8 godina

I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
(sj, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

TURKEY is one of the most great country from the world , a former big empire . Turks are real people . you cannot compare Russia with OTTOMAN EMPIRE

RESPECT TURKEY

Nobody dare to violate the TURKISH AIR SPACE

rote

pre 8 godina

grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Nikolle


You simply don't know this people and it's president if you believe that we can swallow it as Kursk times are over now.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot
(sj, 24 November 2015 15:30)

Sorry, I had not noticed that the CE of B92 forums sj had already given his/her ruling about what's going to happen. All should be set now :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

a New Day

pre 8 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 24 November 2015 14:41)
Thank you for correcting my error in terminology, it makes a world of difference. lol.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To all the naive Idiot's,
Putin and the Russian gas will travel threw either Romania or back threw Bulgaria once the Bulgarian next elections.President's and governments change ,and Russia is not in a rush/hurry.
It will never travel thru Turkey to middle Europe.
Qatar gas will in the future will travel thru Turkey!.

rote

pre 8 godina

New Day : “with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.”

What about North Stream-2 ? There will be no cooperation with Turkey until they suck. Russia is to build a world of free nations while the US is to keep their world of suckers. I wish you knew how good is not to suck …


lotsoflaugh : “Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3”

Do you really believe that Chapter-5 will work if the US is not threatened directly ? Then you are a dreamer.


Translation : “lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.”

Just be patient and follow the breaking news. And it’s very good that you finally saw “the link between Russians and Serbs.” - ЛУЧШЕ ПОЗДНО, ЧЕМ НИКОГДА !


Questioner : “Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan

It was their last tea as next time it will be funeral vodka called here as ПОМИНКИ.

pigeconomicskrajina : “Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries”

You don’t need such a long nickname as you first 3 letters were quite enough.

Nikolle : Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it

I don’t think so because it was also a slap at Putin personally. He once said that vindictive but he had a good memory («Я не злопамятный, но память у меня хорошая») and for the last 15 years he’s been proving it.

sj

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

Roger7

pre 8 godina

This video is going to anger many around the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-plane-shot-down-live-russian-defence-minister-confirms-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-latest-a6746256.html

Put a muzzle on the guy.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.
(Nikolle, 24 November 2015 13:33)
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LOL! Wishful thinking. We are not in the 90s anymore. More like S300s in Syria and any Turkish incursion into Syrian airspace means downed Turkish planes, arming of Kurds with an intensification of separatist activity in Turkey and that's probably just the beginning. Turkey's support for IS and other terrorists in unacceptable.

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Ukraine is exactly where Moscow wants it to be, a destabilised region.
If South Stream is dead so is supplying gas to Europe and Russia controls all the energy. Turkey is aptly named since it is heavily reliant on Moscow for energy. I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
Let me put it this way, Europe needs Russian energy more than Russia needs Europe.

rote

pre 8 godina

Since now on we have to talk about the US-Russian conflict only. Because it is the USA who takes the main decisions. No matter who exactly pulls the trigger. The situation is very bad as Russia have to respond the way that Ankara satellite will have no pretext to declare emergency situation when they can close the Bosporus through which we supply our troops in Syria. Otherwise the supply routes will be longer and it will ease our grip over the ISIS throat. That’s what they mean tactically while we all know the US strategy to make everybody in the region fight everybody. Then they can save their overloaded economy. It’s stupid to try to predict Putin but I know for certain that there will be several responses and most of them unexpected. So that next time when some other lackey have to do something for the Master he must shiver of fear but not from cold. Putin already called spade a spade that Turkey supports the terrorists. Everybody knew it without Putin but someone has to unmask the Ihvan ul-Muslimin of Turkey. Wars start different but they end the same way if Russia is involved.

НАШЕ ДЕЛО ПРАВОЕ - МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I see the Turko-Albanians have Putin confused with Obama, Putin in a news conference has already stated that this will have dire consequences for relations between Turkey and Russia. https://www.rt.com/news/323264-turkish-f16-fighter-shot-Su24/

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe."
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Not such a good memory, otherwise you would know it is not about oil, but these were gas pipelines.

I think that this 'Turkish stream' pipeline will be as successful as south stream, i.e. an illusion and dream never realized. With priorities shifting, probably Putin will decide that Gazprom will generously use the Ukrainian pipelines for some more years, or in future bypassing any unreliable eastern countries with some additional lines for the already existing north stream pipeline from Russia straight to Germany.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku ,
Kurd are race of people that live in state, Adana ,Turkey.That state is near the border with Syria and Iraq.
They are fighting for a statehood.
Saddam Hussein gas them in early 90's and killed alot of them.That's how you get the name chemical Ali,his ( Saddam cousin) killed alot of kurd's.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin said the loss of the jet “is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists”.He’s right. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is not the real ISIS leader,Erdogan is.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/

Turkey is trying to drag NATO into war with Russia - What a surprise! Vlad is not likely to telegraph his reprisal. It will just happen without warning.

sj

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.
(lotsoflaugh, 24 November 2015 13:12)

WW3, get real. Do you think that NATO will go to war over some towel heads that pulled the wrong reign? No they will; not. You people overestimate the value of Turkey in the scheme of things.
Russia will not go to war with Turkey, but this is going to cost Mustapha plenty because there is more than one way to skin a cat as they say.

sj

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.
(translation, 24 November 2015 13:23)

Putin is neither stupid nor reckless, but he will wait his time. When will it happen? I don’t know but you don’t do this to a super power and get away with it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!

svabo

pre 8 godina

"Oh well, I wonder if Tsar Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan, like they did in December last year."

They suck each others d*ck in the masonic lodge it's all a show for the ignorant masses. Russia is soooo enemy with everybody but secretly and most of the time openly they all work together.
This fake conflict is just a show that this oligarchy in Russia has a justification to stay in power and rally the ignorant masses behind them so they can keep on stealing the wealth of this tremendous rich nation and keep the rest in poverty.
They keep the Russians occupied with paranoia and conspiracy theories that everybody is after them that they are so distracted that they don't realize how their standard of living is going down while everybody in charge of Russia is a multi-billionaire.

a New Day

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.

translation

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.

lotsoflaugh

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.
(translation, 24 November 2015 12:23)

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.

pigeconomicskrajina

pre 8 godina

A New Day, didn't you hear that Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries more because they are 'orthodox brothers'. That stuff might have worked 100 years ago, but never today.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I see Putin's cheerleaders have been wetting their pants already. this will be put down as a misunderstanding, that's it. Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.

rote

pre 8 godina

Mig-24 is a bomber-fighter than every NATO pilot knows very well. They cannot say they had thought it was a Syrian Mig-21 or Mig-23 fighter. So it was a deliberate provocation of the USA. Because without them Turks will never dare to challenge Russia - ЖДИТЕ ОТВЕТА – ВАМ ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ОТВЕТЯТ !

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It just proves to the world,that the Turk's support IS .Kurt's getting stronger is not a interest for Turkey. Just proves who supports IS .Turkey doesn't need Billion's of Euro's with Russian investment's.

translation

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.

sj

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.

Helsingborg

pre 8 godina

This is a big reveal that the Turks are upset about bombing of ISIS and oil infrastructure. Those Turkmen on the border have lost their business. Ha ha.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I find it hard to beleve that the Russian Pilots delibretly ignored those warnings TEN times,
if they where not convinced they where in Syrian Airespace.

Perhaps the Turks believed it was a Syrian Warplane.

This incident could spark a Big Mideast war,
where Russia suported Armenia and The Kurds in a War against Turkey and,
a Conflict Between Russia and NATO as well.

Arn.Sweden.

Helsingborg

pre 8 godina

This is a big reveal that the Turks are upset about bombing of ISIS and oil infrastructure. Those Turkmen on the border have lost their business. Ha ha.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin said the loss of the jet “is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists”.He’s right. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is not the real ISIS leader,Erdogan is.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/

Turkey is trying to drag NATO into war with Russia - What a surprise! Vlad is not likely to telegraph his reprisal. It will just happen without warning.

sj

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It just proves to the world,that the Turk's support IS .Kurt's getting stronger is not a interest for Turkey. Just proves who supports IS .Turkey doesn't need Billion's of Euro's with Russian investment's.

translation

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.

a New Day

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Ukraine is exactly where Moscow wants it to be, a destabilised region.
If South Stream is dead so is supplying gas to Europe and Russia controls all the energy. Turkey is aptly named since it is heavily reliant on Moscow for energy. I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
Let me put it this way, Europe needs Russian energy more than Russia needs Europe.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.
(Nikolle, 24 November 2015 13:33)
--
LOL! Wishful thinking. We are not in the 90s anymore. More like S300s in Syria and any Turkish incursion into Syrian airspace means downed Turkish planes, arming of Kurds with an intensification of separatist activity in Turkey and that's probably just the beginning. Turkey's support for IS and other terrorists in unacceptable.

rote

pre 8 godina

grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Nikolle


You simply don't know this people and it's president if you believe that we can swallow it as Kursk times are over now.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I find it hard to beleve that the Russian Pilots delibretly ignored those warnings TEN times,
if they where not convinced they where in Syrian Airespace.

Perhaps the Turks believed it was a Syrian Warplane.

This incident could spark a Big Mideast war,
where Russia suported Armenia and The Kurds in a War against Turkey and,
a Conflict Between Russia and NATO as well.

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 8 godina

Mig-24 is a bomber-fighter than every NATO pilot knows very well. They cannot say they had thought it was a Syrian Mig-21 or Mig-23 fighter. So it was a deliberate provocation of the USA. Because without them Turks will never dare to challenge Russia - ЖДИТЕ ОТВЕТА – ВАМ ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ОТВЕТЯТ !

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I see the Turko-Albanians have Putin confused with Obama, Putin in a news conference has already stated that this will have dire consequences for relations between Turkey and Russia. https://www.rt.com/news/323264-turkish-f16-fighter-shot-Su24/

sj

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

Navi

pre 8 godina

you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. Kurds continue to kill lots of Turks and that's a great thing.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I see Putin's cheerleaders have been wetting their pants already. this will be put down as a misunderstanding, that's it. Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!

rote

pre 8 godina

New Day : “with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.”

What about North Stream-2 ? There will be no cooperation with Turkey until they suck. Russia is to build a world of free nations while the US is to keep their world of suckers. I wish you knew how good is not to suck …


lotsoflaugh : “Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3”

Do you really believe that Chapter-5 will work if the US is not threatened directly ? Then you are a dreamer.


Translation : “lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.”

Just be patient and follow the breaking news. And it’s very good that you finally saw “the link between Russians and Serbs.” - ЛУЧШЕ ПОЗДНО, ЧЕМ НИКОГДА !


Questioner : “Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan

It was their last tea as next time it will be funeral vodka called here as ПОМИНКИ.

pigeconomicskrajina : “Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries”

You don’t need such a long nickname as you first 3 letters were quite enough.

Nikolle : Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it

I don’t think so because it was also a slap at Putin personally. He once said that vindictive but he had a good memory («Я не злопамятный, но память у меня хорошая») and for the last 15 years he’s been proving it.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

TURKEY is one of the most great country from the world , a former big empire . Turks are real people . you cannot compare Russia with OTTOMAN EMPIRE

RESPECT TURKEY

Nobody dare to violate the TURKISH AIR SPACE

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1


I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!



I TAKE YOUR WORDS AS A PERSONAL INSULT - AM I WORKING IN VAIN HERE ?

translation

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.

rote

pre 8 godina

Since now on we have to talk about the US-Russian conflict only. Because it is the USA who takes the main decisions. No matter who exactly pulls the trigger. The situation is very bad as Russia have to respond the way that Ankara satellite will have no pretext to declare emergency situation when they can close the Bosporus through which we supply our troops in Syria. Otherwise the supply routes will be longer and it will ease our grip over the ISIS throat. That’s what they mean tactically while we all know the US strategy to make everybody in the region fight everybody. Then they can save their overloaded economy. It’s stupid to try to predict Putin but I know for certain that there will be several responses and most of them unexpected. So that next time when some other lackey have to do something for the Master he must shiver of fear but not from cold. Putin already called spade a spade that Turkey supports the terrorists. Everybody knew it without Putin but someone has to unmask the Ihvan ul-Muslimin of Turkey. Wars start different but they end the same way if Russia is involved.

НАШЕ ДЕЛО ПРАВОЕ - МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

sj

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.
(lotsoflaugh, 24 November 2015 13:12)

WW3, get real. Do you think that NATO will go to war over some towel heads that pulled the wrong reign? No they will; not. You people overestimate the value of Turkey in the scheme of things.
Russia will not go to war with Turkey, but this is going to cost Mustapha plenty because there is more than one way to skin a cat as they say.

sj

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.
(translation, 24 November 2015 13:23)

Putin is neither stupid nor reckless, but he will wait his time. When will it happen? I don’t know but you don’t do this to a super power and get away with it.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To all the naive Idiot's,
Putin and the Russian gas will travel threw either Romania or back threw Bulgaria once the Bulgarian next elections.President's and governments change ,and Russia is not in a rush/hurry.
It will never travel thru Turkey to middle Europe.
Qatar gas will in the future will travel thru Turkey!.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot
(sj, 24 November 2015 15:30)

Sorry, I had not noticed that the CE of B92 forums sj had already given his/her ruling about what's going to happen. All should be set now :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
(sj, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku ,
Kurd are race of people that live in state, Adana ,Turkey.That state is near the border with Syria and Iraq.
They are fighting for a statehood.
Saddam Hussein gas them in early 90's and killed alot of them.That's how you get the name chemical Ali,his ( Saddam cousin) killed alot of kurd's.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Naim

pre 8 godina

Well - your head is to up. Yes Ofcourse you get shot down and so will be until you understand that crossing in the territory of organisation called NATO you will be smashed.
Watch your planes and mind your territory - they will get smashed.
Same with all NATO members remember if you cross to Albania, Croatia or Poland and all others you will be shot at. I LOVE IT.

sj

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 21:47)

Perhaps you might tell this fact to the Kurds who crap all over the Turks every time the Turks go into Kurdistan. For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.
(translation, 24 November 2015 12:23)

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.

lotsoflaugh

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.

svabo

pre 8 godina

"Oh well, I wonder if Tsar Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan, like they did in December last year."

They suck each others d*ck in the masonic lodge it's all a show for the ignorant masses. Russia is soooo enemy with everybody but secretly and most of the time openly they all work together.
This fake conflict is just a show that this oligarchy in Russia has a justification to stay in power and rally the ignorant masses behind them so they can keep on stealing the wealth of this tremendous rich nation and keep the rest in poverty.
They keep the Russians occupied with paranoia and conspiracy theories that everybody is after them that they are so distracted that they don't realize how their standard of living is going down while everybody in charge of Russia is a multi-billionaire.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

This video is going to anger many around the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-plane-shot-down-live-russian-defence-minister-confirms-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-latest-a6746256.html

Put a muzzle on the guy.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To real knowledgeable,
So what,that Romania and Bulgaria are in EU. Greece,Croatia as well is in EU,and have sign for Russian gas.
Even Italy is expressing interest.
Norway gas can't get to the Balkans and will see when Qatar gas work starts.So non EU friendly governments get voted in Romania and Bulgaria, Russian gas will start.Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS

sj

pre 8 godina

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 24 November 2015 16:14)

Our resident crackpot, the AI, strikes again. Me thinks it has swallowed a dictionary using such complex words as implement and comprehend.
Ahh you can always rely on the AI to prove to us what an idiot it really is.

P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

sj

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

I love illiterate people because they make the dumbest remarks. Hey Abudlla try reading some history before opening your big mouth next time.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Like I mentioned in a previous post, Russia will now deploy, not S300s but the more advanced S400 defence missile system. Turkey can forget about flying into Syrian airspace to attack Kurds or for any other reason every again. The Kurds can now be armed and safe knowing that Turkey will not attack so separatist Kurds can now escalate their activities in Turkey.

I've always thought Turkey will be the first NATO member to fall and now I'm more convinced than ever. It will be known as rump Turkey soon enough.

Check -> https://www.rt.com/news/323379-s400-russia-syria-airbase/

sj

pre 8 godina

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)
(icj1, 25 November 2015 02:23)

Spoken like a true buffoon AI.

pigeconomicskrajina

pre 8 godina

A New Day, didn't you hear that Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries more because they are 'orthodox brothers'. That stuff might have worked 100 years ago, but never today.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe."
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Not such a good memory, otherwise you would know it is not about oil, but these were gas pipelines.

I think that this 'Turkish stream' pipeline will be as successful as south stream, i.e. an illusion and dream never realized. With priorities shifting, probably Putin will decide that Gazprom will generously use the Ukrainian pipelines for some more years, or in future bypassing any unreliable eastern countries with some additional lines for the already existing north stream pipeline from Russia straight to Germany.

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Someting for rote and yugolsavija and nikola novakovic that happen at 1 december and that is before the storm from 2017 ! http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/politic/iohannis-promulga-majorarile-promise-de-guvernul-ponta-25-in-plus-pentru-medici-10-in-plus-pentru-toti-bugetarii.html

As for event from today with the plane i had let so many comments because i not been so HAPPY seince a long time

I have one word as a conclusion LOVELY

a New Day

pre 8 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 24 November 2015 14:41)
Thank you for correcting my error in terminology, it makes a world of difference. lol.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. "
(Navi, 24 November 2015 20:08)

Yes, and how crazy in his mind must Mullah Erdogan be when thinks he can recreate a new Ottoman empire? But with this he had something in common with Putin, who thinks Russia can have the influence, power and weight in the world the former Soviet Union once had. These times are all over and gone.

not1914anymore

pre 8 godina

Not going to happen Navi, not without you serbs going along with it. Zoran, I bet your beloved S-300 is realky as lousy as these planes were.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.
(Jugoslavija, 24 November 2015 17:30)

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)

bs runs deep

pre 8 godina

For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.
(sj, 24 November 2015 23:08)
Reminds me of the announcement a couple of weeks ago that Serbia was going to buy some military equipment from Russia, only problem is when you do not have money to buy batteries for the planes you have, not much of a chance of buying a whole plane.

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!
(sasa.p, 25 November 2015 01:04)
You uncovered the real reason south stream was shut down. People want to stay warm in the winter, so why would any intelligent person make themselves more dependent on a country that has a history of shutting down the flow of gas if things are not to their liking.
Remember last year Russia threatened to do the same to Serbia until Vucic went to Russia and kissed butt and promised a payment plan for their arrears, which was not significant. And they are "brothers".

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To a different point of view,
Money talk's,you don't pay,then the gas stop's,no brother when money is not paid.Ask yourself if your boss ,doesn't pay you after a honest day work,you will leave!
The Balkans saying,what you pay the musician, is how much music you get at a kafana.

rote

pre 8 godina

Mig-24 is a bomber-fighter than every NATO pilot knows very well. They cannot say they had thought it was a Syrian Mig-21 or Mig-23 fighter. So it was a deliberate provocation of the USA. Because without them Turks will never dare to challenge Russia - ЖДИТЕ ОТВЕТА – ВАМ ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО ОТВЕТЯТ !

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

TURKEY is one of the most great country from the world , a former big empire . Turks are real people . you cannot compare Russia with OTTOMAN EMPIRE

RESPECT TURKEY

Nobody dare to violate the TURKISH AIR SPACE

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people

svabo

pre 8 godina

"Oh well, I wonder if Tsar Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan, like they did in December last year."

They suck each others d*ck in the masonic lodge it's all a show for the ignorant masses. Russia is soooo enemy with everybody but secretly and most of the time openly they all work together.
This fake conflict is just a show that this oligarchy in Russia has a justification to stay in power and rally the ignorant masses behind them so they can keep on stealing the wealth of this tremendous rich nation and keep the rest in poverty.
They keep the Russians occupied with paranoia and conspiracy theories that everybody is after them that they are so distracted that they don't realize how their standard of living is going down while everybody in charge of Russia is a multi-billionaire.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Ukraine is exactly where Moscow wants it to be, a destabilised region.
If South Stream is dead so is supplying gas to Europe and Russia controls all the energy. Turkey is aptly named since it is heavily reliant on Moscow for energy. I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
Let me put it this way, Europe needs Russian energy more than Russia needs Europe.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.

Naim

pre 8 godina

Well - your head is to up. Yes Ofcourse you get shot down and so will be until you understand that crossing in the territory of organisation called NATO you will be smashed.
Watch your planes and mind your territory - they will get smashed.
Same with all NATO members remember if you cross to Albania, Croatia or Poland and all others you will be shot at. I LOVE IT.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I find it hard to beleve that the Russian Pilots delibretly ignored those warnings TEN times,
if they where not convinced they where in Syrian Airespace.

Perhaps the Turks believed it was a Syrian Warplane.

This incident could spark a Big Mideast war,
where Russia suported Armenia and The Kurds in a War against Turkey and,
a Conflict Between Russia and NATO as well.

Arn.Sweden.

translation

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.

rote

pre 8 godina

Since now on we have to talk about the US-Russian conflict only. Because it is the USA who takes the main decisions. No matter who exactly pulls the trigger. The situation is very bad as Russia have to respond the way that Ankara satellite will have no pretext to declare emergency situation when they can close the Bosporus through which we supply our troops in Syria. Otherwise the supply routes will be longer and it will ease our grip over the ISIS throat. That’s what they mean tactically while we all know the US strategy to make everybody in the region fight everybody. Then they can save their overloaded economy. It’s stupid to try to predict Putin but I know for certain that there will be several responses and most of them unexpected. So that next time when some other lackey have to do something for the Master he must shiver of fear but not from cold. Putin already called spade a spade that Turkey supports the terrorists. Everybody knew it without Putin but someone has to unmask the Ihvan ul-Muslimin of Turkey. Wars start different but they end the same way if Russia is involved.

НАШЕ ДЕЛО ПРАВОЕ - МЫ ПОБЕДИМ !

sj

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

@rote

I read Putin's reaction to this, according to him, the worst that will happen is the relationship between Russia & Tureky will suffer grave consequences. That's it. He is not going to go military on Turkey, no matter how much people here claim he will. Now, my definition of grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

adrian_bucharest

pre 8 godina

Someting for rote and yugolsavija and nikola novakovic that happen at 1 december and that is before the storm from 2017 ! http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/politic/iohannis-promulga-majorarile-promise-de-guvernul-ponta-25-in-plus-pentru-medici-10-in-plus-pentru-toti-bugetarii.html

As for event from today with the plane i had let so many comments because i not been so HAPPY seince a long time

I have one word as a conclusion LOVELY

sj

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

It just proves to the world,that the Turk's support IS .Kurt's getting stronger is not a interest for Turkey. Just proves who supports IS .Turkey doesn't need Billion's of Euro's with Russian investment's.

not1914anymore

pre 8 godina

Not going to happen Navi, not without you serbs going along with it. Zoran, I bet your beloved S-300 is realky as lousy as these planes were.

a New Day

pre 8 godina

The last thing NATO needs is a conflict with Russia. If the Turkish dope did this then Turkey could well blow up. So if its true there will be new shipments of arms to Kurds and then watch the fireworks.

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19)
If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I see Putin's cheerleaders have been wetting their pants already. this will be put down as a misunderstanding, that's it. Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.

pigeconomicskrajina

pre 8 godina

A New Day, didn't you hear that Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries more because they are 'orthodox brothers'. That stuff might have worked 100 years ago, but never today.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

I see the Turko-Albanians have Putin confused with Obama, Putin in a news conference has already stated that this will have dire consequences for relations between Turkey and Russia. https://www.rt.com/news/323264-turkish-f16-fighter-shot-Su24/

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"If memory serves me right, with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe."
(a New Day, 24 November 2015 13:28)

Not such a good memory, otherwise you would know it is not about oil, but these were gas pipelines.

I think that this 'Turkish stream' pipeline will be as successful as south stream, i.e. an illusion and dream never realized. With priorities shifting, probably Putin will decide that Gazprom will generously use the Ukrainian pipelines for some more years, or in future bypassing any unreliable eastern countries with some additional lines for the already existing north stream pipeline from Russia straight to Germany.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Well looky here the AI is at it again making babbling noises and thinking it’s being smart. Well there are very few “Russian trolls” but plenty of Albanian wankers. To say that the Albos are waiting for instructions from Tirana would be misleading since there are very few who can read in HQ.
It lives up to its style of being the AI.
P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot
(sj, 24 November 2015 15:30)

Sorry, I had not noticed that the CE of B92 forums sj had already given his/her ruling about what's going to happen. All should be set now :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

I doubt that Putin was serious about transporting gas through Turkey to Europe, it’s more likely that he was jerking the west’s chain.
(sj, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

rote

pre 8 godina

grave consequences is a protest note send to Tukey's ambassador and maybe freeze of some assets. That's it. Within a month, this will be water under the bridge

Nikolle


You simply don't know this people and it's president if you believe that we can swallow it as Kursk times are over now.

icj1

pre 8 godina

I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!
(icj1, 24 November 2015 14:47)

Look at the former alumni of the prestigious school of Albanian Shiptar Law at Pristina University talking about trolls. You should create your own fake diploma program at Pristina University, AI.
(Jugoslavija, 24 November 2015 17:30)

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)

Helsingborg

pre 8 godina

This is a big reveal that the Turks are upset about bombing of ISIS and oil infrastructure. Those Turkmen on the border have lost their business. Ha ha.

sj

pre 8 godina

But Putin prefers his dish of revenge served cold.
(sj, 24 November 2015 11:19
Translation: He is going to use a lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.
(translation, 24 November 2015 12:23)

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.

translation

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.

sj

pre 8 godina

Would you like to put your life savings on that one? Let me put it this way. if he does not do a thing then next time it will be worse.
(sj, 24 November 2015 13:11)
Answer: yes! whatever reaction he has will be minimal.
(translation, 24 November 2015 13:23)

Putin is neither stupid nor reckless, but he will wait his time. When will it happen? I don’t know but you don’t do this to a super power and get away with it.

lotsoflaugh

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

Putin said the loss of the jet “is a stab in the back, carried out by the accomplices of terrorists”.He’s right. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is not the real ISIS leader,Erdogan is.

http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/

Turkey is trying to drag NATO into war with Russia - What a surprise! Vlad is not likely to telegraph his reprisal. It will just happen without warning.

sj

pre 8 godina

Keep dreaming serbs. He isn't as dumb as Nicholas II. And he can destroy nationalist opposition as easily as leftist one. Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3, but who cares, git to have that Byzantine back no matter what.
(lotsoflaugh, 24 November 2015 13:12)

WW3, get real. Do you think that NATO will go to war over some towel heads that pulled the wrong reign? No they will; not. You people overestimate the value of Turkey in the scheme of things.
Russia will not go to war with Turkey, but this is going to cost Mustapha plenty because there is more than one way to skin a cat as they say.

rote

pre 8 godina

New Day : “with south stream dead and Ukraine still volatile, Russia is depending heavily on Turkish cooperation to pipe its oil to Europe.”

What about North Stream-2 ? There will be no cooperation with Turkey until they suck. Russia is to build a world of free nations while the US is to keep their world of suckers. I wish you knew how good is not to suck …


lotsoflaugh : “Turkey is a NATO member, any attack against it would eventually lead to WW3”

Do you really believe that Chapter-5 will work if the US is not threatened directly ? Then you are a dreamer.


Translation : “lot of rhetoric, but do nothing! I am beginning to see the link between Russians and Serbs.”

Just be patient and follow the breaking news. And it’s very good that you finally saw “the link between Russians and Serbs.” - ЛУЧШЕ ПОЗДНО, ЧЕМ НИКОГДА !


Questioner : “Putin will drink tea again with his brother in mind Mullah Erdogan

It was their last tea as next time it will be funeral vodka called here as ПОМИНКИ.

pigeconomicskrajina : “Russia needs bankrupt Balkan countries”

You don’t need such a long nickname as you first 3 letters were quite enough.

Nikolle : Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it

I don’t think so because it was also a slap at Putin personally. He once said that vindictive but he had a good memory («Я не злопамятный, но память у меня хорошая») and for the last 15 years he’s been proving it.

rote

pre 8 godina

icj1


I haven't noticed much Russian trolling activity... I guess the Russian trolling crowd is waiting for instructions from the Kremlin on how to spin this!



I TAKE YOUR WORDS AS A PERSONAL INSULT - AM I WORKING IN VAIN HERE ?

Navi

pre 8 godina

you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. Kurds continue to kill lots of Turks and that's a great thing.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"The Ottoman Empire was destroyed 100 years ago and had been dying a slow pathetic death for the previous 100. "
(Navi, 24 November 2015 20:08)

Yes, and how crazy in his mind must Mullah Erdogan be when thinks he can recreate a new Ottoman empire? But with this he had something in common with Putin, who thinks Russia can have the influence, power and weight in the world the former Soviet Union once had. These times are all over and gone.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku ,
Kurd are race of people that live in state, Adana ,Turkey.That state is near the border with Syria and Iraq.
They are fighting for a statehood.
Saddam Hussein gas them in early 90's and killed alot of them.That's how you get the name chemical Ali,his ( Saddam cousin) killed alot of kurd's.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To all the naive Idiot's,
Putin and the Russian gas will travel threw either Romania or back threw Bulgaria once the Bulgarian next elections.President's and governments change ,and Russia is not in a rush/hurry.
It will never travel thru Turkey to middle Europe.
Qatar gas will in the future will travel thru Turkey!.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Turkey will probably issue some half-hearted apology and Russia will accept it.
(Nikolle, 24 November 2015 13:33)
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LOL! Wishful thinking. We are not in the 90s anymore. More like S300s in Syria and any Turkish incursion into Syrian airspace means downed Turkish planes, arming of Kurds with an intensification of separatist activity in Turkey and that's probably just the beginning. Turkey's support for IS and other terrorists in unacceptable.

a New Day

pre 8 godina

(Comm. Parrisson, 24 November 2015 14:41)
Thank you for correcting my error in terminology, it makes a world of difference. lol.

sj

pre 8 godina

the army of Turkey could erase Serbia from the map in under 48 hour

Turkey have a very strong army equipment and so on !

in Turkey would never happened what happened in Serbia in 1990s that showed how primitive are the SLAVS
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 21:47)

Perhaps you might tell this fact to the Kurds who crap all over the Turks every time the Turks go into Kurdistan. For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.

sj

pre 8 godina

i forgot to say that Russians are messing with the wrong one

Turk army is better than Russian army

+ you cannot compare Ottoman Empire with some barbarians primitive people
(adrian_bucharest, 24 November 2015 16:40)

I love illiterate people because they make the dumbest remarks. Hey Abudlla try reading some history before opening your big mouth next time.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

This video is going to anger many around the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-plane-shot-down-live-russian-defence-minister-confirms-jet-shot-down-by-turkey-latest-a6746256.html

Put a muzzle on the guy.

sj

pre 8 godina

Oh, thanks God! I was struggling to comprehend such calamity, but the CE of B92 forums sj, as always, was able to save the day by revealing the truth to the world. I'm sure that Putin will do everything he can to implement the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 24 November 2015 16:14)

Our resident crackpot, the AI, strikes again. Me thinks it has swallowed a dictionary using such complex words as implement and comprehend.
Ahh you can always rely on the AI to prove to us what an idiot it really is.

P.S. AI = Albanian Idiot

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Like I mentioned in a previous post, Russia will now deploy, not S300s but the more advanced S400 defence missile system. Turkey can forget about flying into Syrian airspace to attack Kurds or for any other reason every again. The Kurds can now be armed and safe knowing that Turkey will not attack so separatist Kurds can now escalate their activities in Turkey.

I've always thought Turkey will be the first NATO member to fall and now I'm more convinced than ever. It will be known as rump Turkey soon enough.

Check -> https://www.rt.com/news/323379-s400-russia-syria-airbase/

sj

pre 8 godina

Excellent idea... I'll certainly hire you as a great adviser for that business :)
(icj1, 25 November 2015 02:23)

Spoken like a true buffoon AI.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To real knowledgeable,
So what,that Romania and Bulgaria are in EU. Greece,Croatia as well is in EU,and have sign for Russian gas.
Even Italy is expressing interest.
Norway gas can't get to the Balkans and will see when Qatar gas work starts.So non EU friendly governments get voted in Romania and Bulgaria, Russian gas will start.Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!

a different point of view

pre 8 godina

Population like to keep warn on a cold winter day,with gas not primitive wood/ log's. Population votes not Brussels in Romania, or Bulgaria!
(sasa.p, 25 November 2015 01:04)
You uncovered the real reason south stream was shut down. People want to stay warm in the winter, so why would any intelligent person make themselves more dependent on a country that has a history of shutting down the flow of gas if things are not to their liking.
Remember last year Russia threatened to do the same to Serbia until Vucic went to Russia and kissed butt and promised a payment plan for their arrears, which was not significant. And they are "brothers".

bs runs deep

pre 8 godina

For your information Turkey’s equipment is mostly second hand me downs donated by the west or as we call it scrap metal.
(sj, 24 November 2015 23:08)
Reminds me of the announcement a couple of weeks ago that Serbia was going to buy some military equipment from Russia, only problem is when you do not have money to buy batteries for the planes you have, not much of a chance of buying a whole plane.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To a different point of view,
Money talk's,you don't pay,then the gas stop's,no brother when money is not paid.Ask yourself if your boss ,doesn't pay you after a honest day work,you will leave!
The Balkans saying,what you pay the musician, is how much music you get at a kafana.