FM addresses UNSC, says Pristina's move is "unprecedented"

Kosova will implement all agreements as long as they are in line with Kosovos constitution, what she really means is that some agreements will have to be revised, for the purpose of preventing another RS within Kosovo. I am sure EU and U.S. couldn't agree more, because the problems we have seen RS creating in Bosnia are just not acceptable.
Furthermore, Serbia will continue to suffer from EU and U.S. due to their close relationship with Russia, that will not change.
Serbia is in a tough position because they have chosen that path.

Good luck!

(Guest, 20 November 2015 13:08)

True Serbia is with the East and not the West therefore don't expect the west to help you. If you want to be in EU you have to be with the west, it is very simple. Serbian might as well relocate to Russia, Siberia is empty, could swallow the whole Serbian population. We will help if they need it. :)

Ah. So what will happen if this 'constitutional court' will rule that the installation of the ZSO agreed and signed by Kosovo officials is against the 'Kosovo constition'? You will implement it, nevertheless, ignoring the 'Kosovo constitution', or won't implement it, ignoring the international obligations?
(Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2015 13:53)

Simple. Kosovo's constitution will be changed, again, under international pressure, to make what was agreed upon legitimate. No one, except the most die-hard supporters of Self-Determination thinks Kosovo has an independent voice in this. Kosovo is financed, supported, and protected by the very international powers that are telling them to implement the deal made under their sponsorship and in their presence. The constitutional court nonsense is a delaying tactic by Mustafa as a way of placating an unruly opposition that should have been put in its place years ago. Obviously the placating has done nothing to quell the violence in Pristina, and it's doing nothing to help Kosovo's already tarnished reputation as a statelet incapable of handling even the most basic problems. In the end, Kosovo will capitulate as it always has if it wants to maintain international support for what little sovereignty it's been granted. The best they can do is delay the inevitable for an agreement I would have liked to have thought their so-called constitutional court would have ruled on before their delegates signed off on it.

"We promise that we will implement all we have agreed with Serbia, but we expect the same from Serbia," Citaku said, according to Tanjug.

Ah. So what will happen if this 'constitutional court' will rule that the installation of the ZSO agreed and signed by Kosovo officials is against the 'Kosovo constition'? You will implement it, nevertheless, ignoring the 'Kosovo constitution', or won't implement it, ignoring the international obligations?

To sum up: This sentence above makes no sense - unless you are willing to change the constitution in the case of rejection by the court. But this won't happen, because the violent rioters will prevent any decision by the Kosovo parliament that doesn't suit them.

Its amazing no one called him on his lies, that the contitutional court is in reality part of the agreement between Kosovo and Serbia.

The only side evading agreements is Serbia. Today government agreed with the opposition on the border demarcation agreement with Montenegro. They have to do the same when it comes to ZSO.

Com par and Balkan a,

What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians. So there will not be any pressure to change the constitution. Because should they start changing it where would it stop. Quite possibly with a reduction of minority rights and the ability to pass laws without minority approval.
Also the court is made up of international judges and local, to the extent that the locals cannot override the international judges. So should it rule that the agreement is unconstitutional there will be no pressure to ignore the decision.
The action will be to return to the table and create an agreement that is constitutional.
Now with that said the Einsteins of the forum forget all of the Brussels agreement has been drafted after the Ahtisaari Plan, which envisioned the community of Serbs(do you really think Serbia came up with this) also the constitution was written based on the Ahtisaari Plan. So unless powers not envisioned in the Plan are incorporated then there should be no reason it would not pass the test of the court.

What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians.
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

We know that. Unfortunately, said constitution is routinely abused by Albanians.


Now with that said the Einsteins of the forum forget all of the Brussels agreement has been drafted after the Ahtisaari Plan, which envisioned the community of Serbs(do you really think Serbia came up with this) also the constitution was written based on the Ahtisaari Plan. So unless powers not envisioned in the Plan are incorporated then there should be no reason it would not pass the test of the court.
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

The only people who seem to be incapable of remembering that are Kosovo's Albanian population. We'd like for it to pass its constitutional court, but past experience has given us little hope the constitution and the laws of the land designated for Albanians are understood, let alone read, by Albanians.

We're not the ones you should be lecturing since we seem to know more about Kosovo's constitutional commitments than Europe's Youngest Democrats.

For some reason, the actual content of the constitution posed by Pristina as an obstacle continues to fail to be news.

Thanks to the news, it is common knowledge that Serbia's constitution specifically prohibits Serbian recognition of Kosovo as an independent state.

Kosovo is financed, supported, and protected by the very international powers that are telling them to implement the deal made under their sponsorship and in their presence.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

So, you are saying that it is not Serbia that controls Kosovo?! Oh dear, that is a VERY traitorous statement!
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The constitutional court nonsense
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

Well, that's what Serbia agreed to, that Kosovo's Constitutional Court will review it. If Serbia agrees to nonsense, that is Serbia's fault for not having lawyers able to read what they are signing!
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I would have liked to have thought their so-called constitutional court would have ruled on before their delegates signed off on it.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

Total nonsense! An agreement does not exist until it is signed by both parties. A Court cannot review something that does not exist. Once signed, an agreement goes through the internal ratification process of each of the parties, and only if ratified, enters into force and is implemented.

It's amazing how some people believe blindly what they are told and then suddenly there is a mass amnesia where people forget that, if not ratified by the parties, this won't be neither the first nor the last signed agreement in the world that does not pass the ratification process.

"What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians. .... Also the court is made up of international judges and local, to the extent that the locals cannot override the international judges."
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

In fact what you are saying is that the idea of the Kosovo government to ask the constitutional court about if it is legal what they have signed was only a matter of delaying, as ususal when it comes to implemtn agreements.
Or maybe for calming the violent rioting self-terminators, though this will be in vain, they are throw tear gas and hand grenades anyway.

If fact are like you wrote, it's almost impossible that the court rejects the ZSO.

P.S: As far as I know, the Kosovo constitution was mainly 'inspired' (or should I say, like you, written?) by the US embassy in Pristina.

P.S: As far as I know, the Kosovo constitution was mainly 'inspired' (or should I say, like you, written?) by the US embassy in Pristina.
(Comm. Parrisson, 22 November 2015 15:09)
Was that supposed to be a secret or were you just sleeping during those years?
It was actually put together by experts from several countries.
And no I was not saying it was a delaying tactic, I was saying its constitutional legality was questioned and it was put before the court as agreed in Brussels.
What I was saying is that Kosovo will NOT be forced to accept it if the court rules it unconstitutional. With international judges ruling on it based on a constitution written inspired created by international experts, that a no ruling will mean back to the table not implement it or else.
Balkan,
Do not know of any violations of the Kosovo constitution that were allowed to stand, I do remember however, that the constitutional court of Serbia ruled that the dual payments that the government made to Serbs in Kosovo official capacities did violate your constitution and the government just said they would continue those payments anyway.
So maybe you should have gotten some experts to write your constitution which can be changed with one afternoon session of parliament to suit those in office.

Kosova will implement all agreements as long as they are in line with Kosovos constitution, what she really means is that some agreements will have to be revised, for the purpose of preventing another RS within Kosovo. I am sure EU and U.S. couldn't agree more, because the problems we have seen RS creating in Bosnia are just not acceptable.
Furthermore, Serbia will continue to suffer from EU and U.S. due to their close relationship with Russia, that will not change.
Serbia is in a tough position because they have chosen that path.

Good luck!

Ah. So what will happen if this 'constitutional court' will rule that the installation of the ZSO agreed and signed by Kosovo officials is against the 'Kosovo constition'? You will implement it, nevertheless, ignoring the 'Kosovo constitution', or won't implement it, ignoring the international obligations?
(Comm. Parrisson, 20 November 2015 13:53)

Simple. Kosovo's constitution will be changed, again, under international pressure, to make what was agreed upon legitimate. No one, except the most die-hard supporters of Self-Determination thinks Kosovo has an independent voice in this. Kosovo is financed, supported, and protected by the very international powers that are telling them to implement the deal made under their sponsorship and in their presence. The constitutional court nonsense is a delaying tactic by Mustafa as a way of placating an unruly opposition that should have been put in its place years ago. Obviously the placating has done nothing to quell the violence in Pristina, and it's doing nothing to help Kosovo's already tarnished reputation as a statelet incapable of handling even the most basic problems. In the end, Kosovo will capitulate as it always has if it wants to maintain international support for what little sovereignty it's been granted. The best they can do is delay the inevitable for an agreement I would have liked to have thought their so-called constitutional court would have ruled on before their delegates signed off on it.

"We promise that we will implement all we have agreed with Serbia, but we expect the same from Serbia," Citaku said, according to Tanjug.

Ah. So what will happen if this 'constitutional court' will rule that the installation of the ZSO agreed and signed by Kosovo officials is against the 'Kosovo constition'? You will implement it, nevertheless, ignoring the 'Kosovo constitution', or won't implement it, ignoring the international obligations?

To sum up: This sentence above makes no sense - unless you are willing to change the constitution in the case of rejection by the court. But this won't happen, because the violent rioters will prevent any decision by the Kosovo parliament that doesn't suit them.

What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians.
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

We know that. Unfortunately, said constitution is routinely abused by Albanians.


Now with that said the Einsteins of the forum forget all of the Brussels agreement has been drafted after the Ahtisaari Plan, which envisioned the community of Serbs(do you really think Serbia came up with this) also the constitution was written based on the Ahtisaari Plan. So unless powers not envisioned in the Plan are incorporated then there should be no reason it would not pass the test of the court.
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

The only people who seem to be incapable of remembering that are Kosovo's Albanian population. We'd like for it to pass its constitutional court, but past experience has given us little hope the constitution and the laws of the land designated for Albanians are understood, let alone read, by Albanians.

We're not the ones you should be lecturing since we seem to know more about Kosovo's constitutional commitments than Europe's Youngest Democrats.

(Guest, 20 November 2015 13:08)

True Serbia is with the East and not the West therefore don't expect the west to help you. If you want to be in EU you have to be with the west, it is very simple. Serbian might as well relocate to Russia, Siberia is empty, could swallow the whole Serbian population. We will help if they need it. :)

The only side evading agreements is Serbia. Today government agreed with the opposition on the border demarcation agreement with Montenegro. They have to do the same when it comes to ZSO.

Its amazing no one called him on his lies, that the contitutional court is in reality part of the agreement between Kosovo and Serbia.

Com par and Balkan a,

What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians. So there will not be any pressure to change the constitution. Because should they start changing it where would it stop. Quite possibly with a reduction of minority rights and the ability to pass laws without minority approval.
Also the court is made up of international judges and local, to the extent that the locals cannot override the international judges. So should it rule that the agreement is unconstitutional there will be no pressure to ignore the decision.
The action will be to return to the table and create an agreement that is constitutional.
Now with that said the Einsteins of the forum forget all of the Brussels agreement has been drafted after the Ahtisaari Plan, which envisioned the community of Serbs(do you really think Serbia came up with this) also the constitution was written based on the Ahtisaari Plan. So unless powers not envisioned in the Plan are incorporated then there should be no reason it would not pass the test of the court.

For some reason, the actual content of the constitution posed by Pristina as an obstacle continues to fail to be news.

Thanks to the news, it is common knowledge that Serbia's constitution specifically prohibits Serbian recognition of Kosovo as an independent state.

Kosovo is financed, supported, and protected by the very international powers that are telling them to implement the deal made under their sponsorship and in their presence.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

So, you are saying that it is not Serbia that controls Kosovo?! Oh dear, that is a VERY traitorous statement!
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The constitutional court nonsense
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

Well, that's what Serbia agreed to, that Kosovo's Constitutional Court will review it. If Serbia agrees to nonsense, that is Serbia's fault for not having lawyers able to read what they are signing!
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I would have liked to have thought their so-called constitutional court would have ruled on before their delegates signed off on it.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 20 November 2015 15:57)

Total nonsense! An agreement does not exist until it is signed by both parties. A Court cannot review something that does not exist. Once signed, an agreement goes through the internal ratification process of each of the parties, and only if ratified, enters into force and is implemented.

It's amazing how some people believe blindly what they are told and then suddenly there is a mass amnesia where people forget that, if not ratified by the parties, this won't be neither the first nor the last signed agreement in the world that does not pass the ratification process.

"What some of you yahoos keep forgetting, the constitution was written by experts in the international community to insure fair and equitable treatment of all citizens of Kosovo, it was not written by the Albanians. .... Also the court is made up of international judges and local, to the extent that the locals cannot override the international judges."
(think again, 20 November 2015 23:02)

In fact what you are saying is that the idea of the Kosovo government to ask the constitutional court about if it is legal what they have signed was only a matter of delaying, as ususal when it comes to implemtn agreements.
Or maybe for calming the violent rioting self-terminators, though this will be in vain, they are throw tear gas and hand grenades anyway.

If fact are like you wrote, it's almost impossible that the court rejects the ZSO.

P.S: As far as I know, the Kosovo constitution was mainly 'inspired' (or should I say, like you, written?) by the US embassy in Pristina.

P.S: As far as I know, the Kosovo constitution was mainly 'inspired' (or should I say, like you, written?) by the US embassy in Pristina.
(Comm. Parrisson, 22 November 2015 15:09)
Was that supposed to be a secret or were you just sleeping during those years?
It was actually put together by experts from several countries.
And no I was not saying it was a delaying tactic, I was saying its constitutional legality was questioned and it was put before the court as agreed in Brussels.
What I was saying is that Kosovo will NOT be forced to accept it if the court rules it unconstitutional. With international judges ruling on it based on a constitution written inspired created by international experts, that a no ruling will mean back to the table not implement it or else.
Balkan,
Do not know of any violations of the Kosovo constitution that were allowed to stand, I do remember however, that the constitutional court of Serbia ruled that the dual payments that the government made to Serbs in Kosovo official capacities did violate your constitution and the government just said they would continue those payments anyway.
So maybe you should have gotten some experts to write your constitution which can be changed with one afternoon session of parliament to suit those in office.