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Thursday, 19.11.2015.

12:30

Macedonia starts building fence along border with Greece

Macedonia has started building a three-tier wire fence along several kilometers of its border with Greece, in the area of Gevgelija.

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Ataman

pre 8 godina

>>>All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian?
>>>And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, >>>Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its
>>>example.

The unique hungaricum is the Arrowcross-Nemzetvezetö-Ösmagyar-Döbrögi-keretlegény mentality. Achieved it's "glorious" peak in 1944-1945, than magically mutated into Rákosi a punk (olv: Rákosi apánk) rock koncert, than became the sleazy slug of Kádár, the war criminal and now finally we are back to Vitéz Nagydöbrögi és Felcsúti Geci.

So yes, there is now fence in Macedonia, Croatia, Austria... it could be in Kosovo, Albania, Greece. But "Geci" is merely a family name in that region. Unlike Country of Hungry where it's a general state of mind and mentality.

That answers Joni's question, too. He asked a while ago what's wrong with Hungary. The simple answer is "geci". It's merely a family name where Joni lives. In Hungary it's much more than that. It will take an other 1000 years to eradicate that "geci" thing in Hungary. God designed Hungary the way other people can see it and vomit.

Don

pre 8 godina

Now I think Albania will be the next one to build a fence on the Greek border, otherwise it will be overflown with thousands of refugees she can't cope with. Ironically enough that fence once existed and it was in a very good shape, curtainig hermetically the country from the outer world. It was the first thing to be torn down once the system changed

GEToutNOW

pre 8 godina

Why is a wall needed - I thought the migrants were going through the border crossing check points? Looks like the governments know something we don't. This is probably for preventive measures.

Why wasn't a wall built between Albania and Kosovo/Montenegro? That is the real question. For that I blame Serbs.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

lol @ "weight of chains". srsly

Milosevic created a police state in it's southern province for 10 years while the west looked away.

once you stop defending the indefensible, you'll have a much clearer view of things.

btw, "Danilo" is a not-uncommon name in Montenegro, northern Serbia and Bosnia. I'm guessing you haven't been to the balkans much. btw, what difference would it make where I'm from?

Hruz

pre 8 godina

Hungarian fence: evil, Austria draws comparison to Holocaust trains, Germany refuses to sell razor wire and criticises Hungary.

Austrian fence: "it is not a fence it is a gate with side wings" (what???? 40 km gate? By the way, inside the Schengen zone!!!)

Slovenian fence: Austria welcomes and understands Slovenia`s right to build a fence. (still no apology to Hungary)

All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian? And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its example.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@joni and danilo...

First joni, viagra... good one joni... Nikola Tesla captured the power of Niagara.... Niagara falls in north America and generated electricity for a large city. Now did this albainian see the work of Nikola Tesla at Niagara, and think that maybe he should compete with Tesla and power the bedroom with viagra?

Danilo, sounds croatian, but I could be wrong... anyway danilo, its funny that during the yugoslav wars all the propaganda was about Serbia and that Serbs were doing the killing... very wrong... this is lies danilo, the propaganda has worked wonders on you, you must have been raised on the BBC... educated people will tell you that croatians and bosnian Muslim's committed atrocities also, but Germany, US and UK wanted a one sided story and they agreed to discredit the Serbs...

Danilo its all their in black and white, its all documented, there is no conspiracy, only truth... watch " Weight of Chains " on you tube, all the evidence is there, all referenced government documents. Im not having a go at your intelligence, but you do need to be educated on this, do not rely purely on the propaganda which you were exposed to during the yugoslav wars...

The Serbs are good people, its just you were taught to hate them through a constructivist poltical theory...

Joni

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

And an Albanian invented viagra - and win the nobel prize for that.
You know : Just in case...
When you shut down the light...

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

It's kind of brutal and politically incorrect comment... but I, too, posted a politically incorrect comment about refugees in Poland and the city of Oœwiêcim.

In any case, everyone who has good character and is ready to live like locals, be assimilated and without demanding something like stay in hotel, free cars and complains about local food is welcome. Others please leave.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(Nikola Novakovic, 19 November 2015 23:53)

It's not a conspiracy. No one *made* Serbs look bad. They have no one but themselves to blame for that.

kent prince

pre 8 godina

Issue them temporary visas with expiration date.
Once Syria and countries they flee are safe to return, send them all back. Dito.

howaboutthat

pre 8 godina

How much would the unemployment be in your failed state, if Macedonians, Albanians or refugees wouldn't do all the low paid jobs that are too good for lazy entitled greeks like you. And we all know you are use to sandzhaks, military juntas and dictatorships, but no one is going to censor freedom of speech just because you tell them to.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@ardian...

Thank you for your recognition of Nikola Tesla, he had a brilliant mind and done so much for the world with his inventions...

He was also a humanitarian and cared about all people. He represents who the Serbs really are, we are very kind people, we do care about all people, not just our own ethnicity.

There has been a propaganda campaign against the Serbs for decades, maybe to make Germany look good after WWII and make some other people look bad... a lot of the propaganda is not true...

Sure the Serbs made mistakes along the way, we are not perfect and war is terrible, no one wins in war, how could you win war when we all mourn our loved ones together?

We do not have hate for anyone, if anything we have to much love and that makes the Serbs fight to protect the ones we love, the people are our treasure, that is all we have that means anything to us, we don't care about any material objects, our treasure is our people and if they are harmed in any way, we are left with no choice but to defend them by all means possible...

Just remember that Serbs do not hate and Nikola Tesla is the perfect example of who the Serbs really are, we are humanitarian... It is a shame that Germany has done so well to destroy the good humanitarian nature of the Serbs with their propaganda... The Germans are the real killers, they are the wolf in sheeps clothing...

Paul

pre 8 godina

Nikola, don't be a fool. You don't think these illegals are already paying some Turkish gangster/mujahadin money to get as far as they did? Do you think those boat rides are for free? And this will further confound the corrupt officials inside these countries that are shaking down the illegals. All business will be conducted under harsh light at entry points.

These walls will be good for Greece too. No doubt these routes are being used both ways for a lot of rot circulating throughout Europe.

Now, let us all dream about a wall between Kosovo and Albania.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The fence trick.... It boosts the economy!

How does a fence boost the economy...?
Easy, people smugglers... A fence blocks people's entry to a promised land, they have travelled thousands of kilometres or miles and look and behold, a fence prevents us crossing into the promised land...

But Lo and behold, a people smuggler awaits, he offers another way, but you must pay, oh yes, you must pay....

An economy starts to grow, a people smuggling economy where riches are promised on the other side of the fence, but first you must cross, and you must pay...

The fence trick, it's another way of saying to the refugees, you may pass go, but only if you pay 200 dollars as we have blocked your way... Free passage is no longer available...

It's called milking the cow... By the time the refugees get to Germany they will not have one cent left... Germany must give them money, shelter, food and clothing or the refugees will commit crimes to survive...

When you have lost everything, you have nothing to lose and that's what will make these migrants dangerous...!

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

I hope Tsipras impliments economic sanctions against FYROM.
(Leonidas, 19 November 2015 13:28)

Does the Turko-Albanian allahu akbar crowd think that posting comments purporting to be myself is going to stop me from posting my thoughts on this site? They're very mush mistaken but since this happened again in the past i just thought that B92 will have some checks in place to stop or even bar those weird elements from its site.

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

I hope Tsipras impliments economic sanctions against FYROM.
(Leonidas, 19 November 2015 13:28)

Does the Turko-Albanian allahu akbar crowd think that posting comments purporting to be myself is going to stop me from posting my thoughts on this site? They're very mush mistaken but since this happened again in the past i just thought that B92 will have some checks in place to stop or even bar those weird elements from its site.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

And an Albanian invented viagra - and win the nobel prize for that.
You know : Just in case...
When you shut down the light...

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(Nikola Novakovic, 19 November 2015 23:53)

It's not a conspiracy. No one *made* Serbs look bad. They have no one but themselves to blame for that.

Hruz

pre 8 godina

Hungarian fence: evil, Austria draws comparison to Holocaust trains, Germany refuses to sell razor wire and criticises Hungary.

Austrian fence: "it is not a fence it is a gate with side wings" (what???? 40 km gate? By the way, inside the Schengen zone!!!)

Slovenian fence: Austria welcomes and understands Slovenia`s right to build a fence. (still no apology to Hungary)

All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian? And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its example.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The fence trick.... It boosts the economy!

How does a fence boost the economy...?
Easy, people smugglers... A fence blocks people's entry to a promised land, they have travelled thousands of kilometres or miles and look and behold, a fence prevents us crossing into the promised land...

But Lo and behold, a people smuggler awaits, he offers another way, but you must pay, oh yes, you must pay....

An economy starts to grow, a people smuggling economy where riches are promised on the other side of the fence, but first you must cross, and you must pay...

The fence trick, it's another way of saying to the refugees, you may pass go, but only if you pay 200 dollars as we have blocked your way... Free passage is no longer available...

It's called milking the cow... By the time the refugees get to Germany they will not have one cent left... Germany must give them money, shelter, food and clothing or the refugees will commit crimes to survive...

When you have lost everything, you have nothing to lose and that's what will make these migrants dangerous...!

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

It's kind of brutal and politically incorrect comment... but I, too, posted a politically incorrect comment about refugees in Poland and the city of Oœwiêcim.

In any case, everyone who has good character and is ready to live like locals, be assimilated and without demanding something like stay in hotel, free cars and complains about local food is welcome. Others please leave.

howaboutthat

pre 8 godina

How much would the unemployment be in your failed state, if Macedonians, Albanians or refugees wouldn't do all the low paid jobs that are too good for lazy entitled greeks like you. And we all know you are use to sandzhaks, military juntas and dictatorships, but no one is going to censor freedom of speech just because you tell them to.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

lol @ "weight of chains". srsly

Milosevic created a police state in it's southern province for 10 years while the west looked away.

once you stop defending the indefensible, you'll have a much clearer view of things.

btw, "Danilo" is a not-uncommon name in Montenegro, northern Serbia and Bosnia. I'm guessing you haven't been to the balkans much. btw, what difference would it make where I'm from?

Paul

pre 8 godina

Nikola, don't be a fool. You don't think these illegals are already paying some Turkish gangster/mujahadin money to get as far as they did? Do you think those boat rides are for free? And this will further confound the corrupt officials inside these countries that are shaking down the illegals. All business will be conducted under harsh light at entry points.

These walls will be good for Greece too. No doubt these routes are being used both ways for a lot of rot circulating throughout Europe.

Now, let us all dream about a wall between Kosovo and Albania.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@ardian...

Thank you for your recognition of Nikola Tesla, he had a brilliant mind and done so much for the world with his inventions...

He was also a humanitarian and cared about all people. He represents who the Serbs really are, we are very kind people, we do care about all people, not just our own ethnicity.

There has been a propaganda campaign against the Serbs for decades, maybe to make Germany look good after WWII and make some other people look bad... a lot of the propaganda is not true...

Sure the Serbs made mistakes along the way, we are not perfect and war is terrible, no one wins in war, how could you win war when we all mourn our loved ones together?

We do not have hate for anyone, if anything we have to much love and that makes the Serbs fight to protect the ones we love, the people are our treasure, that is all we have that means anything to us, we don't care about any material objects, our treasure is our people and if they are harmed in any way, we are left with no choice but to defend them by all means possible...

Just remember that Serbs do not hate and Nikola Tesla is the perfect example of who the Serbs really are, we are humanitarian... It is a shame that Germany has done so well to destroy the good humanitarian nature of the Serbs with their propaganda... The Germans are the real killers, they are the wolf in sheeps clothing...

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@joni and danilo...

First joni, viagra... good one joni... Nikola Tesla captured the power of Niagara.... Niagara falls in north America and generated electricity for a large city. Now did this albainian see the work of Nikola Tesla at Niagara, and think that maybe he should compete with Tesla and power the bedroom with viagra?

Danilo, sounds croatian, but I could be wrong... anyway danilo, its funny that during the yugoslav wars all the propaganda was about Serbia and that Serbs were doing the killing... very wrong... this is lies danilo, the propaganda has worked wonders on you, you must have been raised on the BBC... educated people will tell you that croatians and bosnian Muslim's committed atrocities also, but Germany, US and UK wanted a one sided story and they agreed to discredit the Serbs...

Danilo its all their in black and white, its all documented, there is no conspiracy, only truth... watch " Weight of Chains " on you tube, all the evidence is there, all referenced government documents. Im not having a go at your intelligence, but you do need to be educated on this, do not rely purely on the propaganda which you were exposed to during the yugoslav wars...

The Serbs are good people, its just you were taught to hate them through a constructivist poltical theory...

kent prince

pre 8 godina

Issue them temporary visas with expiration date.
Once Syria and countries they flee are safe to return, send them all back. Dito.

Don

pre 8 godina

Now I think Albania will be the next one to build a fence on the Greek border, otherwise it will be overflown with thousands of refugees she can't cope with. Ironically enough that fence once existed and it was in a very good shape, curtainig hermetically the country from the outer world. It was the first thing to be torn down once the system changed

GEToutNOW

pre 8 godina

Why is a wall needed - I thought the migrants were going through the border crossing check points? Looks like the governments know something we don't. This is probably for preventive measures.

Why wasn't a wall built between Albania and Kosovo/Montenegro? That is the real question. For that I blame Serbs.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

>>>All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian?
>>>And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, >>>Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its
>>>example.

The unique hungaricum is the Arrowcross-Nemzetvezetö-Ösmagyar-Döbrögi-keretlegény mentality. Achieved it's "glorious" peak in 1944-1945, than magically mutated into Rákosi a punk (olv: Rákosi apánk) rock koncert, than became the sleazy slug of Kádár, the war criminal and now finally we are back to Vitéz Nagydöbrögi és Felcsúti Geci.

So yes, there is now fence in Macedonia, Croatia, Austria... it could be in Kosovo, Albania, Greece. But "Geci" is merely a family name in that region. Unlike Country of Hungry where it's a general state of mind and mentality.

That answers Joni's question, too. He asked a while ago what's wrong with Hungary. The simple answer is "geci". It's merely a family name where Joni lives. In Hungary it's much more than that. It will take an other 1000 years to eradicate that "geci" thing in Hungary. God designed Hungary the way other people can see it and vomit.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@joni and danilo...

First joni, viagra... good one joni... Nikola Tesla captured the power of Niagara.... Niagara falls in north America and generated electricity for a large city. Now did this albainian see the work of Nikola Tesla at Niagara, and think that maybe he should compete with Tesla and power the bedroom with viagra?

Danilo, sounds croatian, but I could be wrong... anyway danilo, its funny that during the yugoslav wars all the propaganda was about Serbia and that Serbs were doing the killing... very wrong... this is lies danilo, the propaganda has worked wonders on you, you must have been raised on the BBC... educated people will tell you that croatians and bosnian Muslim's committed atrocities also, but Germany, US and UK wanted a one sided story and they agreed to discredit the Serbs...

Danilo its all their in black and white, its all documented, there is no conspiracy, only truth... watch " Weight of Chains " on you tube, all the evidence is there, all referenced government documents. Im not having a go at your intelligence, but you do need to be educated on this, do not rely purely on the propaganda which you were exposed to during the yugoslav wars...

The Serbs are good people, its just you were taught to hate them through a constructivist poltical theory...

Leonidas

pre 8 godina

I hope Tsipras impliments economic sanctions against FYROM.
(Leonidas, 19 November 2015 13:28)

Does the Turko-Albanian allahu akbar crowd think that posting comments purporting to be myself is going to stop me from posting my thoughts on this site? They're very mush mistaken but since this happened again in the past i just thought that B92 will have some checks in place to stop or even bar those weird elements from its site.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The fence trick.... It boosts the economy!

How does a fence boost the economy...?
Easy, people smugglers... A fence blocks people's entry to a promised land, they have travelled thousands of kilometres or miles and look and behold, a fence prevents us crossing into the promised land...

But Lo and behold, a people smuggler awaits, he offers another way, but you must pay, oh yes, you must pay....

An economy starts to grow, a people smuggling economy where riches are promised on the other side of the fence, but first you must cross, and you must pay...

The fence trick, it's another way of saying to the refugees, you may pass go, but only if you pay 200 dollars as we have blocked your way... Free passage is no longer available...

It's called milking the cow... By the time the refugees get to Germany they will not have one cent left... Germany must give them money, shelter, food and clothing or the refugees will commit crimes to survive...

When you have lost everything, you have nothing to lose and that's what will make these migrants dangerous...!

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

@ardian...

Thank you for your recognition of Nikola Tesla, he had a brilliant mind and done so much for the world with his inventions...

He was also a humanitarian and cared about all people. He represents who the Serbs really are, we are very kind people, we do care about all people, not just our own ethnicity.

There has been a propaganda campaign against the Serbs for decades, maybe to make Germany look good after WWII and make some other people look bad... a lot of the propaganda is not true...

Sure the Serbs made mistakes along the way, we are not perfect and war is terrible, no one wins in war, how could you win war when we all mourn our loved ones together?

We do not have hate for anyone, if anything we have to much love and that makes the Serbs fight to protect the ones we love, the people are our treasure, that is all we have that means anything to us, we don't care about any material objects, our treasure is our people and if they are harmed in any way, we are left with no choice but to defend them by all means possible...

Just remember that Serbs do not hate and Nikola Tesla is the perfect example of who the Serbs really are, we are humanitarian... It is a shame that Germany has done so well to destroy the good humanitarian nature of the Serbs with their propaganda... The Germans are the real killers, they are the wolf in sheeps clothing...

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(Nikola Novakovic, 19 November 2015 23:53)

It's not a conspiracy. No one *made* Serbs look bad. They have no one but themselves to blame for that.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

And an Albanian invented viagra - and win the nobel prize for that.
You know : Just in case...
When you shut down the light...

howaboutthat

pre 8 godina

How much would the unemployment be in your failed state, if Macedonians, Albanians or refugees wouldn't do all the low paid jobs that are too good for lazy entitled greeks like you. And we all know you are use to sandzhaks, military juntas and dictatorships, but no one is going to censor freedom of speech just because you tell them to.

kent prince

pre 8 godina

Issue them temporary visas with expiration date.
Once Syria and countries they flee are safe to return, send them all back. Dito.

Hruz

pre 8 godina

Hungarian fence: evil, Austria draws comparison to Holocaust trains, Germany refuses to sell razor wire and criticises Hungary.

Austrian fence: "it is not a fence it is a gate with side wings" (what???? 40 km gate? By the way, inside the Schengen zone!!!)

Slovenian fence: Austria welcomes and understands Slovenia`s right to build a fence. (still no apology to Hungary)

All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian? And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its example.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

lol @ "weight of chains". srsly

Milosevic created a police state in it's southern province for 10 years while the west looked away.

once you stop defending the indefensible, you'll have a much clearer view of things.

btw, "Danilo" is a not-uncommon name in Montenegro, northern Serbia and Bosnia. I'm guessing you haven't been to the balkans much. btw, what difference would it make where I'm from?

GEToutNOW

pre 8 godina

Why is a wall needed - I thought the migrants were going through the border crossing check points? Looks like the governments know something we don't. This is probably for preventive measures.

Why wasn't a wall built between Albania and Kosovo/Montenegro? That is the real question. For that I blame Serbs.

Paul

pre 8 godina

Nikola, don't be a fool. You don't think these illegals are already paying some Turkish gangster/mujahadin money to get as far as they did? Do you think those boat rides are for free? And this will further confound the corrupt officials inside these countries that are shaking down the illegals. All business will be conducted under harsh light at entry points.

These walls will be good for Greece too. No doubt these routes are being used both ways for a lot of rot circulating throughout Europe.

Now, let us all dream about a wall between Kosovo and Albania.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

>>>All other fences in Europe and around the world, were OK, except the Hungarian?
>>>And how about now, everybody is in a fence building fury. So dear EU leaders, >>>Austria, Croatia etc., it is time to apologize to Hungary as Europe follow its
>>>example.

The unique hungaricum is the Arrowcross-Nemzetvezetö-Ösmagyar-Döbrögi-keretlegény mentality. Achieved it's "glorious" peak in 1944-1945, than magically mutated into Rákosi a punk (olv: Rákosi apánk) rock koncert, than became the sleazy slug of Kádár, the war criminal and now finally we are back to Vitéz Nagydöbrögi és Felcsúti Geci.

So yes, there is now fence in Macedonia, Croatia, Austria... it could be in Kosovo, Albania, Greece. But "Geci" is merely a family name in that region. Unlike Country of Hungry where it's a general state of mind and mentality.

That answers Joni's question, too. He asked a while ago what's wrong with Hungary. The simple answer is "geci". It's merely a family name where Joni lives. In Hungary it's much more than that. It will take an other 1000 years to eradicate that "geci" thing in Hungary. God designed Hungary the way other people can see it and vomit.

Ataman

pre 8 godina

Nikola Novakovic at least your Serbs invented the electricity and i thank you for this .
(adrian_bucharest, 19 November 2015 18:40)

It's kind of brutal and politically incorrect comment... but I, too, posted a politically incorrect comment about refugees in Poland and the city of Oœwiêcim.

In any case, everyone who has good character and is ready to live like locals, be assimilated and without demanding something like stay in hotel, free cars and complains about local food is welcome. Others please leave.

Don

pre 8 godina

Now I think Albania will be the next one to build a fence on the Greek border, otherwise it will be overflown with thousands of refugees she can't cope with. Ironically enough that fence once existed and it was in a very good shape, curtainig hermetically the country from the outer world. It was the first thing to be torn down once the system changed