Ambassador: U.S. has no reason to bring down Vucic's cabinet

"We have no reason to do such a thing' says the ambassador. The question here is. What, if you had one(reason)??What would happen?

Is the ambassador implying that if he had a good reason he's able to bring down the Vucic government? Who knows?!

Its time to take kosovo back and send all the muslim terorists back to albania kosovo is serbian land thank you;)

Why even permit USA embasy in Serbia?

It is very worrying when hear talk of governments being toppled by the US if they do not tow the line...

But saying that we disagree on certain things and agree on others...

Toppling governments in Europe would be a mistake and especially in Serbia... what happened when saddum hussein was toppled.?. well ISIS flourished...
What happened when Gaddafi was toppled, a failed state, civil war and terrorism. ...
What would happen is the Serbian government were to be toppled? Well we would not like to find out, especially in Europe and especially in this volatile climate where Europe's middle class has just about had enough of their governments. We could start a new European spring of revolution... it takes alot to piss off the middle class, so you have to be doing something wrong to get them on the streets...

Taking down a Serbian government would just backfire, just as in iraq and Libya...

The US and Germany done this do Yugoslavia and look what happened. Foreigners start wars, they become involved in internal affairs of other countries.

Who will topple the American government? No foreigner, there will be a civil war and America will cease to be a union by 2030... 18 trillion dollars of debt and climbing will be the cause because eventually the money runs out and states begin to fight... guaranteed 100%...

Does this ambassador know what Patriark Irenej has been telling last weeks to go to war to Albanians and Serbs for Kosova? Irenej will not change his skin, mister ambassador. You have to support Kosova and bomb again Serbia, because they do not change their habit to humiliate Albanian people.

Using Russian criminal slang I would say that the ambassador ВСЕ РАМСЫ ПОПУТАЛ. Seems that he lives in the past when Russia had other elites, other finance, other military and economic power. Let him even try to bring back the Otpor or Tadic or G17 and we shall see Dveri or Seselj at the power here. And Russia won’t save efforts to show the Yankees their new place in this state now. If they mean to replay all the previous wars OK let them only move a finger. Because the Russian elites seek for an avenge in Serbia more than Serbs can imagine. Because 1999 was a tragedy for the Serbs while it was an insult to the Russians. It is permanently warmed up by the Russian media and politicians. 10-15 years ago average Russian would see no difference between Serbia and Bulgaria or Slovakia but it’s different today. All because the 1999 spit is mentioned always in every debates over the TV or in other media. The Yankees are demoralized for the time being and seems that during this president they won’t find will to resist Russia. So I would prefer that they provoke us as soon as possible to see who is who in Serbia. Only thanks to the Shqiptars Serbs are more or less a consolidated nation. If not them only God knows how would Vucic or Dacic behave now. Because BiH and Croatia do not consolidate enough to withstand the challenges. Only Shqiptars save the situation. Anyway in my country any US ambassador to say this would non grata in 24 hours.

i think Nikola Novakovic and Rote and Jugoslavia DIE because B92 allow me posts

The Serbian nationalism from Serbian websites have to be confrunted

How pround are some here because Serbia don`t listen Usa , EU , Russia like Serbia is a big country that count !
(adrian_bucharest, 13 November 2015 18:11)

I love to read your posts, the problem is they are hard to understand as you seem to have problems with the English language. For now, Serbia does exercise it's own foreign policy unlike Bulgaria, Romania , Albania, Croatia, FYROM, Montenegro and others who are told what to do and how to do it. Even under Nazi occupation in WWII, the Serbs still managed to maintain some control over foreign policy and never declared war on the US unlike o Albania, Croatia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.


12 December 1941 – Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia declare war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

13 December 1941 – United Kingdom, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa declare war on Bulgaria.

14 December 1941 – Croatia declared war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

16 December 1941 – Czechoslovak government in exile declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.

17 December 1941 – Albania declared war on the United States of America.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_War_during_World_War_II

Its time to take kosovo back and send all the muslim terorists back to albania kosovo is serbian land thank you;)
(Nick, 13 November 2015 15:24)

How?

So I would forget that which you cannot change and was not committed by any truly living people today, and focus on what to do to protect the future and prevent the mistakes of the past.
(Time to look forward and not backward, 14 November 2015 09:13)

The poet and philosopher George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The US foreign policy is not too far off from the German Nazi policy which allowed them to take Sudetenland and Austria. The US employs the same tactics as it toppled the government in Serbia through the so called OTPOR movement and did the same to crush the democratically elected government in the Ukraine. It does not stop there, although dictatorships, the US broke international law by bombing Iraq and Libya and essentially started the civil war in Syria.

The break up of Yugoslavia is not much different, the CIA worked very closely with Tudjman,Izetbegovic, Thaci, Kucman and Karadzic to break up Yugoslavia. Ribbentrop worked very closely with the German minority in Sudetenland while the France and Britain reneged on the treaty to support Prime Minister Benes and Czechoslovakia.

Try to learn something instead of giving me your reply based on no substance.

I have good song [link] for the two deformed love bird eagles lol enjoy Kapela.
(Lenard, 13 November 2015 19:15)

Hey Ustase,
Wasn't Bob Dylan banned from Croatia? http://forward.com/culture/188725/in-pursuing-bob-dylan-for-hate-speech-croatian-gro/

Sorry, Bob Seger, he probably is banned as well from Croatia for telling the truth about Hitler stooge Pavelic. http://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/ante-paveli%25c4%2587?sort=mostpopular&excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&phrase=ante%20paveli%C4%87

(Jugoslavija, 13 November 2015 19:59)
I guess we could all worry about what happened 75 years ago by people who are all dead or in nursing homes being fed their oatmeal. Whats that going to get us. The two big enemies of the US in WWII are now the two big allies today.
Supposedly Serbia was an ally with the same side, but it became necessary for the US and the other allies to bomb Serbia. The world changes.
The thing is to worry about the future and what you can make of it. Chances are your name will be meaningless in the future, there will be no new Yugoslavia. There are no similarities to hold it together.
So I would forget that which you cannot change and was not committed by any truly living people today, and focus on what to do to protect the future and prevent the mistakes of the past.

A lot of poor people are actually rich tax evaders in Serbia. Vucic should understand that chance to hope on a western gravytrain died with Tito, greek ponzi schemes being exposed in 2009 was the last nail to the coffin. Go with BRIC and forget about high standard of living and low corruption, perhaps Putin will again buy some state own company for peanuts.

Hello,
I will tell you what happens next and why Vucic was picked as leader.
After the justified bombing of the Serbian regime, the Nato had to stabilize Serbia, so there was no chance to put in a pro-western politician.
Imagine: Serbia got bombed by the Nato and the new leader of Serbia is pro Nato and West? What would happen? Since after the war and now, the military and the secret service structure of Serbia are the same, a pro-western politician who would bring those war criminals to court would lose his life in months. So western powers had to place a politician who is or was in a racist Serbian political party and can be manipulated. Now Serbia is stabilized, but the population is poor, the education is low, and the last year’s Serbian politics have done the job for the western power, by promoting EU membership. Now we have people who got told by their fascist politicians that they have to join EU, they are poor have no future. Next step: Serbia will get in deeper financial crisis, won’t be supported by Russia any more, the poor will be poorer, the membership to EU will be harder. Then we open the stage for cedomir jovanovic, Vuk Jeremic. Enjoy the new Serbia with: Anti-Russia, Independence of the Republic of Kosovo. I bet 10 €.

Because BiH and Croatia do not consolidate enough to withstand the challenges. Only Shqiptars save the situation. Anyway in my country any US ambassador to say this would non grata in 24 hours.
(rote, 13 November 2015 18:19) Rote we don't have nothing to do except watch Serbia go down under the weight of its own criminal stupidity's. Poor Russia's "help" to Serbia is just hastening the inevitable. Some old biscuits that poor Russia gives to even poorer Serbia dose not count. While Russia charges a huge price for gas and oil to Serbia then to the EU country's. Buying its few company's for the price of next to nothing. I know it is all part of the wonderful user friendship they enjoy between them who wants to get in the middle of that. I have good song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgOA24hAe60 for the two deformed love bird eagles lol enjoy Kapela.

For now, Serbia does exercise it's own foreign policy unlike Bulgaria, Romania , Albania, Croatia, FYROM, Montenegro and others who are told what to do and how to do it. Even under Nazi occupation in WWII, the Serbs still managed to maintain some control over foreign policy and never declared war on the US unlike o Albania, Croatia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.

Yugoslavija 13 november

And at what it helpt Serbia this ? do you live better ? New generation from Serbia have a future ? Usa attacked you in 1999 for defend Albanians who declared war to them in second world war !

Do you think someone care about Serbia foreign policy ?

Do you think Russia will help Serbia ? they need to help their own people .

Our German president have balls it make the budget deficit 4% in 2016 and international monetary found said maximum 1% he give the 13 pension in december + a bonus 25% for medical system 15% for teacher and 10% for all others that at 1 december then in 2016 minimum salary over 300 euro and double the public sector salaries

He is a hero because West wanted 1% budget deficit and he create minimum 4% and 6% in 2017 in condition of record economical grow up 2015,2016

He promised more big minimum salary than in Hungary and Croatia or same as Croatia till 2018.

Why they would bring down the gouvern of Serbia ? who cut pensions with 10% and give back 1,25%

Is good that Serbia is against EU and not put sanctions to Russia ,the foreign investement will come in Romania . We are in the most good position possible because 1) German president ( Arian Superior ) 2) The gouvern wanted the German after riots 3) AMERICAN BASES + NUCLEAR SHIELD . with Germany+Usa is guaranted that we get much better than Serbia !

Serbs LOVE RUSSIA kiss the fet of Russia and year by year the plates at end of month are more empty !

i think Nikola Novakovic and Rote and Jugoslavia DIE because B92 allow me posts

The Serbian nationalism from Serbian websites have to be confrunted

How pround are some here because Serbia don`t listen Usa , EU , Russia like Serbia is a big country that count !

Hey Rote,

Just wanted to let you know that despite all that has been written here, Rasija has been and will always be the mother nation of any true shqiptar orthodhoks, brother.

Obviously, I hope this melts your heart for the rest of your life, you smart idealist ;)

As my father would have said looking into my deep blue eyes: Великий народ, always remember…

skenny... a bit of the pot calling the kettle black?

"I spoke with Vucic and I told him clearly, 'America is not bringing down your government, we have no reason to do such a thing'," Kirby said, when asked "whether he spoke with the prime minister about the claims that some Western countries are working to topple the Serbian government."

Better would have been not to comment at all on these typical Serbian conspiracy theories. Or to say clearly like it is: Serbs choose their government, and only Serbian MPs can bring it down if they don't trust them any more.

"Ribbentrop worked very closely with the German minority in Sudetenland while the France and Britain reneged on the treaty to support Prime Minister Benes and Czechoslovakia.

Try to learn something instead of giving me your reply based on no substance."
(jugoslavija, 14 November 2015 16:41)

Again some older history lessons. Now that you mentioned German minority and Sudentenland annexed from Czechoslovakia, it reminds me of something else happened not so long ago.

P.S: Ribbentrop worked very closely with the Molotov from Russia, maybe not a coincidence

Great song, Lenard, and yesss, i've personally enjoyed Kapela everywhere, including a military car in Đ´Đ¾Đ½ĐµÑ†Đº...It was great, Lenard, me & Rote, he was like 'yes, Illyrians do it better' and I was like 'even better than Nadya Savchenko, admit it!!'. Our favorite song? Severina's Generale moj: To je ljeto kad sam ostavljena bila, pamtit cu te suze 200 godina, generale moj ti pucas u civila, gledaj me u oci kad me ostavljas...ostavljas...

Hello,
I will tell you what happens next and why Vucic was picked as leader.
After the justified bombing of the Serbian regime, the Nato had to stabilize Serbia, so there was no chance to put in a pro-western politician.
Imagine: Serbia got bombed by the Nato and the new leader of Serbia is pro Nato and West? What would happen? Since after the war and now, the military and the secret service structure of Serbia are the same, a pro-western politician who would bring those war criminals to court would lose his life in months. So western powers had to place a politician who is or was in a racist Serbian political party and can be manipulated. Now Serbia is stabilized, but the population is poor, the education is low, and the last year’s Serbian politics have done the job for the western power, by promoting EU membership. Now we have people who got told by their fascist politicians that they have to join EU, they are poor have no future. Next step: Serbia will get in deeper financial crisis, won’t be supported by Russia any more, the poor will be poorer, the membership to EU will be harder. Then we open the stage for cedomir jovanovic, Vuk Jeremic. Enjoy the new Serbia with: Anti-Russia, Independence of the Republic of Kosovo. I bet 10 €.

Does this ambassador know what Patriark Irenej has been telling last weeks to go to war to Albanians and Serbs for Kosova? Irenej will not change his skin, mister ambassador. You have to support Kosova and bomb again Serbia, because they do not change their habit to humiliate Albanian people.

It is very worrying when hear talk of governments being toppled by the US if they do not tow the line...

But saying that we disagree on certain things and agree on others...

Toppling governments in Europe would be a mistake and especially in Serbia... what happened when saddum hussein was toppled.?. well ISIS flourished...
What happened when Gaddafi was toppled, a failed state, civil war and terrorism. ...
What would happen is the Serbian government were to be toppled? Well we would not like to find out, especially in Europe and especially in this volatile climate where Europe's middle class has just about had enough of their governments. We could start a new European spring of revolution... it takes alot to piss off the middle class, so you have to be doing something wrong to get them on the streets...

Taking down a Serbian government would just backfire, just as in iraq and Libya...

The US and Germany done this do Yugoslavia and look what happened. Foreigners start wars, they become involved in internal affairs of other countries.

Who will topple the American government? No foreigner, there will be a civil war and America will cease to be a union by 2030... 18 trillion dollars of debt and climbing will be the cause because eventually the money runs out and states begin to fight... guaranteed 100%...

Why even permit USA embasy in Serbia?

Its time to take kosovo back and send all the muslim terorists back to albania kosovo is serbian land thank you;)

Because BiH and Croatia do not consolidate enough to withstand the challenges. Only Shqiptars save the situation. Anyway in my country any US ambassador to say this would non grata in 24 hours.
(rote, 13 November 2015 18:19) Rote we don't have nothing to do except watch Serbia go down under the weight of its own criminal stupidity's. Poor Russia's "help" to Serbia is just hastening the inevitable. Some old biscuits that poor Russia gives to even poorer Serbia dose not count. While Russia charges a huge price for gas and oil to Serbia then to the EU country's. Buying its few company's for the price of next to nothing. I know it is all part of the wonderful user friendship they enjoy between them who wants to get in the middle of that. I have good song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgOA24hAe60 for the two deformed love bird eagles lol enjoy Kapela.

Why they would bring down the gouvern of Serbia ? who cut pensions with 10% and give back 1,25%

Is good that Serbia is against EU and not put sanctions to Russia ,the foreign investement will come in Romania . We are in the most good position possible because 1) German president ( Arian Superior ) 2) The gouvern wanted the German after riots 3) AMERICAN BASES + NUCLEAR SHIELD . with Germany+Usa is guaranted that we get much better than Serbia !

Serbs LOVE RUSSIA kiss the fet of Russia and year by year the plates at end of month are more empty !

i think Nikola Novakovic and Rote and Jugoslavia DIE because B92 allow me posts

The Serbian nationalism from Serbian websites have to be confrunted

How pround are some here because Serbia don`t listen Usa , EU , Russia like Serbia is a big country that count !

Using Russian criminal slang I would say that the ambassador ВСЕ РАМСЫ ПОПУТАЛ. Seems that he lives in the past when Russia had other elites, other finance, other military and economic power. Let him even try to bring back the Otpor or Tadic or G17 and we shall see Dveri or Seselj at the power here. And Russia won’t save efforts to show the Yankees their new place in this state now. If they mean to replay all the previous wars OK let them only move a finger. Because the Russian elites seek for an avenge in Serbia more than Serbs can imagine. Because 1999 was a tragedy for the Serbs while it was an insult to the Russians. It is permanently warmed up by the Russian media and politicians. 10-15 years ago average Russian would see no difference between Serbia and Bulgaria or Slovakia but it’s different today. All because the 1999 spit is mentioned always in every debates over the TV or in other media. The Yankees are demoralized for the time being and seems that during this president they won’t find will to resist Russia. So I would prefer that they provoke us as soon as possible to see who is who in Serbia. Only thanks to the Shqiptars Serbs are more or less a consolidated nation. If not them only God knows how would Vucic or Dacic behave now. Because BiH and Croatia do not consolidate enough to withstand the challenges. Only Shqiptars save the situation. Anyway in my country any US ambassador to say this would non grata in 24 hours.

So I would forget that which you cannot change and was not committed by any truly living people today, and focus on what to do to protect the future and prevent the mistakes of the past.
(Time to look forward and not backward, 14 November 2015 09:13)

The poet and philosopher George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The US foreign policy is not too far off from the German Nazi policy which allowed them to take Sudetenland and Austria. The US employs the same tactics as it toppled the government in Serbia through the so called OTPOR movement and did the same to crush the democratically elected government in the Ukraine. It does not stop there, although dictatorships, the US broke international law by bombing Iraq and Libya and essentially started the civil war in Syria.

The break up of Yugoslavia is not much different, the CIA worked very closely with Tudjman,Izetbegovic, Thaci, Kucman and Karadzic to break up Yugoslavia. Ribbentrop worked very closely with the German minority in Sudetenland while the France and Britain reneged on the treaty to support Prime Minister Benes and Czechoslovakia.

Try to learn something instead of giving me your reply based on no substance.

A lot of poor people are actually rich tax evaders in Serbia. Vucic should understand that chance to hope on a western gravytrain died with Tito, greek ponzi schemes being exposed in 2009 was the last nail to the coffin. Go with BRIC and forget about high standard of living and low corruption, perhaps Putin will again buy some state own company for peanuts.

(Jugoslavija, 13 November 2015 19:59)
I guess we could all worry about what happened 75 years ago by people who are all dead or in nursing homes being fed their oatmeal. Whats that going to get us. The two big enemies of the US in WWII are now the two big allies today.
Supposedly Serbia was an ally with the same side, but it became necessary for the US and the other allies to bomb Serbia. The world changes.
The thing is to worry about the future and what you can make of it. Chances are your name will be meaningless in the future, there will be no new Yugoslavia. There are no similarities to hold it together.
So I would forget that which you cannot change and was not committed by any truly living people today, and focus on what to do to protect the future and prevent the mistakes of the past.

For now, Serbia does exercise it's own foreign policy unlike Bulgaria, Romania , Albania, Croatia, FYROM, Montenegro and others who are told what to do and how to do it. Even under Nazi occupation in WWII, the Serbs still managed to maintain some control over foreign policy and never declared war on the US unlike o Albania, Croatia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.

Yugoslavija 13 november

And at what it helpt Serbia this ? do you live better ? New generation from Serbia have a future ? Usa attacked you in 1999 for defend Albanians who declared war to them in second world war !

Do you think someone care about Serbia foreign policy ?

Do you think Russia will help Serbia ? they need to help their own people .

Our German president have balls it make the budget deficit 4% in 2016 and international monetary found said maximum 1% he give the 13 pension in december + a bonus 25% for medical system 15% for teacher and 10% for all others that at 1 december then in 2016 minimum salary over 300 euro and double the public sector salaries

He is a hero because West wanted 1% budget deficit and he create minimum 4% and 6% in 2017 in condition of record economical grow up 2015,2016

He promised more big minimum salary than in Hungary and Croatia or same as Croatia till 2018.

i think Nikola Novakovic and Rote and Jugoslavia DIE because B92 allow me posts

The Serbian nationalism from Serbian websites have to be confrunted

How pround are some here because Serbia don`t listen Usa , EU , Russia like Serbia is a big country that count !
(adrian_bucharest, 13 November 2015 18:11)

I love to read your posts, the problem is they are hard to understand as you seem to have problems with the English language. For now, Serbia does exercise it's own foreign policy unlike Bulgaria, Romania , Albania, Croatia, FYROM, Montenegro and others who are told what to do and how to do it. Even under Nazi occupation in WWII, the Serbs still managed to maintain some control over foreign policy and never declared war on the US unlike o Albania, Croatia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria.


12 December 1941 – Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia declare war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

13 December 1941 – United Kingdom, New Zealand and the Union of South Africa declare war on Bulgaria.

14 December 1941 – Croatia declared war on the United States of America and Great Britain.

16 December 1941 – Czechoslovak government in exile declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.

17 December 1941 – Albania declared war on the United States of America.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_War_during_World_War_II

Its time to take kosovo back and send all the muslim terorists back to albania kosovo is serbian land thank you;)
(Nick, 13 November 2015 15:24)

How?

I have good song [link] for the two deformed love bird eagles lol enjoy Kapela.
(Lenard, 13 November 2015 19:15)

Hey Ustase,
Wasn't Bob Dylan banned from Croatia? http://forward.com/culture/188725/in-pursuing-bob-dylan-for-hate-speech-croatian-gro/

Sorry, Bob Seger, he probably is banned as well from Croatia for telling the truth about Hitler stooge Pavelic. http://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/ante-paveli%25c4%2587?sort=mostpopular&excludenudity=true&mediatype=photography&phrase=ante%20paveli%C4%87

"We have no reason to do such a thing' says the ambassador. The question here is. What, if you had one(reason)??What would happen?

Is the ambassador implying that if he had a good reason he's able to bring down the Vucic government? Who knows?!

Hey Rote,

Just wanted to let you know that despite all that has been written here, Rasija has been and will always be the mother nation of any true shqiptar orthodhoks, brother.

Obviously, I hope this melts your heart for the rest of your life, you smart idealist ;)

As my father would have said looking into my deep blue eyes: Великий народ, always remember…

Great song, Lenard, and yesss, i've personally enjoyed Kapela everywhere, including a military car in Đ´Đ¾Đ½ĐµÑ†Đº...It was great, Lenard, me & Rote, he was like 'yes, Illyrians do it better' and I was like 'even better than Nadya Savchenko, admit it!!'. Our favorite song? Severina's Generale moj: To je ljeto kad sam ostavljena bila, pamtit cu te suze 200 godina, generale moj ti pucas u civila, gledaj me u oci kad me ostavljas...ostavljas...

skenny... a bit of the pot calling the kettle black?

"I spoke with Vucic and I told him clearly, 'America is not bringing down your government, we have no reason to do such a thing'," Kirby said, when asked "whether he spoke with the prime minister about the claims that some Western countries are working to topple the Serbian government."

Better would have been not to comment at all on these typical Serbian conspiracy theories. Or to say clearly like it is: Serbs choose their government, and only Serbian MPs can bring it down if they don't trust them any more.

"Ribbentrop worked very closely with the German minority in Sudetenland while the France and Britain reneged on the treaty to support Prime Minister Benes and Czechoslovakia.

Try to learn something instead of giving me your reply based on no substance."
(jugoslavija, 14 November 2015 16:41)

Again some older history lessons. Now that you mentioned German minority and Sudentenland annexed from Czechoslovakia, it reminds me of something else happened not so long ago.

P.S: Ribbentrop worked very closely with the Molotov from Russia, maybe not a coincidence