Vucic "won't comment on lamentations coming from Pristina"

Vucic and Serbia will pay the price and Serbia will become the pariah state again it was under Milosevic. It can and will not be aloowed to go on acting against its neighbors like it has. Serbia is isolated on the Balkans as well as in Europe and almost the entire free world. looking at the supporting countries like Sudan, Venezuela, Russia, etc, all dictatorships, and I guess that is where Serbia belongs. The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened in the last few weeks, A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.

Negotiate in Brussels for what? Ratify what was signed in Brussels by Kosova & Serbia for what?
To the contrary, The Supreme Court Of The Republic Of Kosova should immediately annul & declare the agreement already signed void, as Serbia has clearly shown she will do everything in her powers to stop Kosova's progress of joining international organizations, a democratic right!
Serbia, has clearly shown that she is not negotiating in good faith and that she is signing agreements that at the end will be fruitless!
Until Serbia is ready to recognize the Republic Of Kosova as a independent state, the Republic Of Kosova should not enter into a negotiating process with Serbia again, as she has proven with her interference in regards to Kosova joining international organizations, what's the point of negotiating? Serbia needs to enter into future negotiations acknowledging that Kosova is a independent country and any agreement signed is in fact being signed by 2 independent country's, with the EU's signature as a guarantor of the document signed by the 2 country's, that's if they want a document that will in fact work!
Enough with the bull....!!!

"Serbia is isolated on the Balkans as well as in Europe and almost the entire free world. looking at the supporting countries like Sudan, Venezuela, Russia, etc, all dictatorships, and I guess that is where Serbia belongs. The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened in the last few weeks"
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)

Yes, and Spain, Slovakia, all dictatorships. Just like you, I hope the EU will not tolerate what happened the last weeks. Which is the permanent obstruction and delay by Kosovo on what they signed in the Brussels agreements. The EU makes itself a laughing stock with their moderation of the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue if it accepts that signed agreements are not worth the paper they are written on, just because a Kosovo government driven by rioting national extremists who think that fireworks and fights in the Kosovo assembly are a way to express their political ideas.

A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)

Kosovo, a territory whose population openly harasses others, threatens war whenever they don't get their way, rewrites history so horribly wrong that one doesn't know whether to laugh or get angry, routinely abuses and undermines international agreements, and whose leaders are war criminals working in plain sight have even less a place in Europe, or the civilized world in general. Albanians have been at the ass-end of modernization and development for more than a century and all you do is threaten and insult whenever the world doesn't hand you what you demand on a plate. I'm no sympathizer for Serbs or Serbia, but you people are mostly regarded as a chronic nuisance throughout Europe who have absolutely no right to decide who is part of Europe and who isn't.

The EU can do nothing beyond keep the Brussels talks going - else be caught by their own web of deceit!

The question is will local institutions representing Albanians in Serbia's UN recognised southern province now tow the EU line they are caught by?

Serbia always stated clearly and openly there can never be any recognition of an illegal US inspired state of "kosova". What's more EU technocrats (Germans especially) vocal stated that no such recognition implied or real is expected from Serbia. They themselves can do nothing beyond continue these talks with next stage enacting evermore Serbian institutions eg such as Serbian electricity distribution in Northern Kosovo - off course in time with market liberalisation (SAA conditions, now enacted across all of UN recognised Serbian sovereign territory) even Strpce residents could switch to this provider.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

Albanians have a tremendous opportunity to sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that works for BOTH sides, something that will avoid our children fightingt again when the international community goes broke or has had enough of games in Kosovo...I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered. The ONLY thing that does NOT change...is GOD! Everything else has a time element to it and WILL change. Betting againt change?...leave that for the idiots!
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Watcher,
Obviously, you know nothing about the demographics of Kosova and Serbia. If you did, you would know that in 50 years Albanians from Kosova will outnumber Serbs of Serbia.

If you are betting on God to save the Serbs, I would then question your intelligence. If God did not save Serbia from NATO bombs and neither did Russia, what makes you think they will help you regain Kosova. It's time for you to grow up and stop believing in myths. I realize it is difficult for you since Serbs believe in so many myths, they can't distinguish between fact and fantasy. However, common sense and past experience should help clear up your confusion.

The EU makes itself a laughing stock with their moderation of the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue if it accepts that signed agreements are not worth the paper they are written on, just because a Kosovo government driven by rioting national extremists who think that fireworks and fights in the Kosovo assembly are a way to express their political ideas.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 November 2015 17:23)
Kind of curious as to who will be laughing??? And who does it really matter too? Do you think that a single country is going to change their course of interaction with the EU over policies with Serbia and Kosovo? I mean really just because a Serb says that they will be a laughing stock, what does that mean. It is just like Serbs say that the bombing was illegal, so, the UN then put NATO in charge of security for Kosovo. Serbs say that Kosovo independence is illegal, but yet 110 countries disagree.
Are you really so ignorant that you think EU governments will hang their head for changing course with Serbia and Kosovo?

After all with all the blatant accusations coming from Serbia about violating their territorial integrity, when they sniff a dollar they crawl on their knees to the very source and tell them how much they love them.
There is no way they care if you are laughing at them, because they and the world will know you are crying on the inside.

Kosovo, a territory whose population openly harasses others, threatens war whenever they don't get their way, rewrites history so horribly wrong that one doesn't know whether to laugh or get angry, routinely abuses and undermines international agreements, and whose leaders are war criminals working in plain sight have even less a place in Europe, or the civilized world in general. Albanians have been at the ass-end of modernization and development for more than a century and all you do is threaten and insult whenever the world doesn't hand you what you demand on a plate. I'm no sympathizer for Serbs or Serbia, but you people are mostly regarded as a chronic nuisance throughout Europe
(Europe, 10 November 2015 17:43)

Thx mate for providing a clear example of how things like holocaust start: when a majority of people are brainwashed to think stuff of the type you wrote above. The best hope that an event like holocaust is not repeated is to have people like you write posts similar to the above to remind everybody where brainwashing can lead!

The EU can do nothing beyond keep the Brussels talks going - else be caught by their own web of deceit!

The question is will local institutions representing Albanians in Serbia's UN recognised southern province now tow the EU line they are caught by?

Serbia always stated clearly and openly there can never be any recognition of an illegal US inspired state of "kosova". What's more EU technocrats (Germans especially) vocal stated that no such recognition implied or real is expected from Serbia. They themselves can do nothing beyond continue these talks with next stage enacting evermore Serbian institutions eg such as Serbian electricity distribution in Northern Kosovo - off course in time with market liberalisation (SAA conditions, now enacted across all of UN recognised Serbian sovereign territory) even Strpce residents could switch to this provider.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

Rocky -
Sometimes it's hard to understand where your frame of mind is...everyone knows, except you i think, that Pristina has NO say in what happens and who makes it happen. You cannot do ANYTHING without approval from your western masters who have NO love for you or your people. They will continue to use and abuse you because anything other would showcase their deciet. It's not your fault they're like that...it's your fault you ALLOW it to be like that. Same scenerio with former Jugoslavia...it was the people's fault for ALLOWING outside powers to interfere with their internal politics. Outside exploitation destroyed that country (dream), not Serbs, Croatians, Albanians, Slovenians or Bosnians. Yes, certain power hungry persons from ALL ethnic backgrounds certainly took advantage of the corruption and next thing you know, no more Jugoslavia. Albanians have a tremendous opportunity to sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that works for BOTH sides, something that will avoid our children fightingt again when the international community goes broke or has had enough of games in Kosovo...I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered. The ONLY thing that does NOT change...is GOD! Everything else has a time element to it and WILL change. Betting againt change?...leave that for the idiots!

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
(Principa, Gracanica, Kosovo & Metohija, Serbia, 10 November 2015 17:24)
Or there could be a complete shutdown of the Brussels talks and no advancement of agreements for the next 2 years, and nothing that Serbia can do as when it comes to inside of Kosovo they are impotent.
There is also the possibility of submitting a referendum to the public and change the constitution removing the part of where minorities must support in order to enact new laws.
And remember that the UN mandated security forces are on the border to keep Serbia from doing anything.

A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)
its about time and it will come the time all those religious leader who were involved on blessing and supporting the killers of innocent people during the war and also threating with war they will need one day to answer on front court of justice like everyone else,here a sentence from :Crisis on the Balkan July 04 1999 from NY times:
This is the(orthodox) church that 10 years ago welcomed Mr. Milosevic's violent nationalist land grab in the collapsing Yugoslavia, the church whose most senior bishops traveled in the war zones of Croatia and Bosnia, blessing Serbian forces shelling towns like Sarajevo."We blame Milosevic not for trying to defend the nation, but for failing",said Bishop Atanasije.
Despite its recent statements about Kosovo, Bishop Atanasije said the church is not rethinking the support that many of its senior priests, including the Patriarch himself, gave in blessing Bosnian Serbian forces whose leaders have now been indicted for war crimes.
One priest, Father Filaret Micovic (u can find him in Wikipedia) photographed in Bosnia atop a tank while brandishing a Kalashnikov rifle, was recently promoted to bishop.
"I don't see anything strange about the presence of a priest among his troops," Bishop Atanasije said.....
So Really! they are some of serbian spiritual leaders who talk in name of GOD? SRAMOTA..

Thanks Rocky - my sentiments exactly. enough of their BULL! My comment: 'You cannot negotiate with a bully - you can only use carrots and sticks. The Belgrade regime has already been granted way too many carrots. It is time to stop all negotiations with these bullies - it only encourages them. Suspend the negotiations NOW!'

When Croatia closed border with Serbia, Serbs called it " a racist move".

Pristina has NO say in what happens and who makes it happen. You cannot do ANYTHING without approval from your western masters
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

well, the point is that it's not Serbia the decision-maker. Between Serbia and the western masters, Kosovo is very happy to be under the control of the latter.
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They will continue to use and abuse
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

That's possible, but for Kosovo that is far less worse than Serbia's use and abuse
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sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that will avoid our children fightingt again
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Kosova has no intention to start any war. Do you or your children and for what purpose?!
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I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered.
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Well, if Serbia could, it would have overpowered Kosovo long ago, regardless of legal agreements. Serbia has shown that the only thing that it respects is force, not legalisms. There is no point for Kosovo to give something to Serbia in exchange for some 'legal protection' from Serbia which is not worth the paper it's going to be written in!
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Betting againt change?
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Nope! It's just that Kosovo is familiar with that old saying: better an egg today than a hen tomorrow :)

think about it : “you think EU governments will hang their head for changing course with Serbia and Kosovo?”

In 1941 the situation was much worse yet it didn’t stop the Serbs of Mihailovic to rebel when everybody else sucked. Most likely your ancestors sucked too if you are not a Brit of course.


The untangler : “UN mandated security forces are on the border”

Time has changed my friend and neither NATO , nor UN, nor anybody else will move a finger. Not only because Russia has changed but also because everybody knows that you Shqiptars do not deserve it.


COMM. : “The EU makes itself a laughing stock”

EU is a castrated sheep whose ass is a free zone to pass to and fro. Didn’t you knew it ? This ass doesn’t even worth of the paper wasted to clean it. See how they voted over an issue evident for any Christian !

Rocky : Kosova should not enter into a negotiating process with Serbia again”

It is exactly what we are dreaming of. We need a time out to let the world change further. Then it will much easier to solve the issue. And something tells me we won’t even have to send Chechen battalions to neutralize the shaitans in KIM.


observer : “The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened”

You don’t know how scared we are now and I won’t fall asleep tonight. Because if “Europe will not tolerate” and launches WW III because of the small bandit nation Russia will have to turn Europe into the ashes.

observer : “The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened”

You don’t know how scared we are now and I won’t fall asleep tonight. Because if “Europe will not tolerate” and launches WW III because of the small bandit nation Russia will have to turn Europe into the ashes.
(rote, 10 November 2015 21:16)

You seem very certain of this. Your arrogance will be your downfall.

Dardania(kosova)learned big lesson dont trust Serbia(Russia). They want negotiations only to look good with EU so they can get same help. Dardania (kosova) shuold change their name first to its original Dardania. Stop any negotiations with Serbia in anything close the borders complitly no tricks no trade nothing let them trade with Russia and Bosnja. Palestine and all those countries that supported them and as far as the unesco we will applie again and we will win it is over for Serbia in Kosova.

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!
(Vanessa Spencer, 11 November 2015 14:10)
You are right, many do not know this, as a matter of fact no one in the country or world know this as it is Serbian fantasy and not reality. It was the necessary removal of savages from the land in order to save lives. It was to solve a problem that numerous attempts at the UN were unable to stop and further talk only meant more deaths. That was what Milosevic was hoping for that they could cleanse Kosovo of all Albanians then reach a peace deal with the west. He did not think they were serious.
The real truth that most Americans do not know though is that Serbs still have the agenda on the table and if the collar is ever removed from their necks they will revert back to the savagery that drove them before. Milosevic was not the problem he was merely a leader. It will be at least 2 generations before Serbia can be trusted again.

Have to love the Serbs trying to hypothesize on what would happen in Texas. it is a fantasy nothing else, and there is currently no danger nor the situations even close.

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!
(Vanessa Spencer, 11 November 2015 14:10)

When the Texas govetnment fires all citizens of Mexican descent from government jobs, bans all citizens of Mexican Descent from all schools and Universities, then cracks down on anything that looks like a recognition of Mexican ancestry, such as wearing or displaying a Mexican flag or even the same colors, then MAYBE you have something to compare. Until then your analogy is faulty.

Rocky: "The Republic Of Kosova should immediately annul & declare the agreement already signed void. Serbia has clearly shown she will do everything in her powers to stop Kosova's progress of joining international organizations, a democratic right!

1. Ummm, last I heard it was a democratic vote. It is not against the law to lobby people to vote a different way. It's like when you lobbied that Serbia be bombed :)

2. If you annul it, your SAA will be annuled because this was an EU sponsored agreement. You are being punished for being naughty little boys and going against the ZSO you formerly agreed to (it's just carefully masked and hidden so you can't figure it out). You are only allowed to do what "they" tell you to do.

"And who does it really matter too? Do you think that a single country is going to change their course of interaction with the EU over policies with Serbia and Kosovo?"
(think about it, 10 November 2015 18:55)

I guess you misunderstood me. I meant that the EU should change the course of interaction with countries (or not-countries, whatever) like Kosovo which do long lasting negotiations and agreements under the supervision and moderation of the EU, and once agreements are reached, they are scrapped them later?


The same goes for Turkey: I cannot understand that the EU still negotiates about membership with a country that goes more and more to a dictatorship (similar to Russia) which suppresses and arrests journalists and opposition, which kills protesters and arrests policemen and judged which investigate in corruption and police violence.

(ari, 11 November 2015 05:02)

LOL now it’s Dardania, yesterday it was Illyria and tomorrow it will be Atlantis LOL. 70,000 years of Albanian/Illyrian occupation and not even a rock painting to their credit, but you may have built some WCs recently which you can try and register in UNESCO, LOL. You do keep me entertained with your claims, perhaps you guys also built the pyramids with the Croatians LOL.
Your time has run out and no more UNESCO.

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!

When the Texas govetnment fires all citizens of Mexican descent from government jobs, bans all citizens of Mexican Descent from all schools and Universities, then cracks down on anything that looks like a recognition of Mexican ancestry, such as wearing or displaying a Mexican flag or even the same colors, then MAYBE you have something to compare. Until then your analogy is faulty.
(Not really, 11 November 2015 20:12)

You better believe it, if Mexicans are stupid enough to fly the Mexican flag without the US flag, open up Mexican schools without parallel US school attendance, act of terrorism and killing Texas US Marshals, burning US churches down, desecrating US grave-sites, forcing US people out of houses, killing US residents livestock, demanding a Mexican autonomy within Texas. The Alamo was defended to the last man including Davey Crockett and every man died to defend freedom in Texas from Mexico invaders!! Long live the Alamo!!

(Serbian fantasies, 11 November 2015 23:50)

Yes, its all a fantasy and yet when asked what the Albos had in Kosovo that should go on the UNESCO register there was deadly silence. What after 80 million years of occupation and not even a cave painting or fountain? How is that possible since our little Albos claim to have been there since the dawn of time. It seems something is rotten in Denmark here.
The vast majority of Americans are stupid while the rest could not point out Europe on a map. If Texas is a problem why don’t we go to California where the majority is either Mexican and Latinos. According to your hypothesis (that’s theory if you don’t have a dictionary) the Mexicans/Latinos can take over California and Washington would not object, pigs’ arse they would not object.
The real question here is what value are the Albos to world society? Have they contributed to advancement of mankind? Well if trading in drugs is advancement then yes otherwise they are a waste of space.

Vucic and Serbia will pay the price and Serbia will become the pariah state again it was under Milosevic. It can and will not be aloowed to go on acting against its neighbors like it has. Serbia is isolated on the Balkans as well as in Europe and almost the entire free world. looking at the supporting countries like Sudan, Venezuela, Russia, etc, all dictatorships, and I guess that is where Serbia belongs. The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened in the last few weeks, A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.

Negotiate in Brussels for what? Ratify what was signed in Brussels by Kosova & Serbia for what?
To the contrary, The Supreme Court Of The Republic Of Kosova should immediately annul & declare the agreement already signed void, as Serbia has clearly shown she will do everything in her powers to stop Kosova's progress of joining international organizations, a democratic right!
Serbia, has clearly shown that she is not negotiating in good faith and that she is signing agreements that at the end will be fruitless!
Until Serbia is ready to recognize the Republic Of Kosova as a independent state, the Republic Of Kosova should not enter into a negotiating process with Serbia again, as she has proven with her interference in regards to Kosova joining international organizations, what's the point of negotiating? Serbia needs to enter into future negotiations acknowledging that Kosova is a independent country and any agreement signed is in fact being signed by 2 independent country's, with the EU's signature as a guarantor of the document signed by the 2 country's, that's if they want a document that will in fact work!
Enough with the bull....!!!

"Serbia is isolated on the Balkans as well as in Europe and almost the entire free world. looking at the supporting countries like Sudan, Venezuela, Russia, etc, all dictatorships, and I guess that is where Serbia belongs. The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened in the last few weeks"
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)

Yes, and Spain, Slovakia, all dictatorships. Just like you, I hope the EU will not tolerate what happened the last weeks. Which is the permanent obstruction and delay by Kosovo on what they signed in the Brussels agreements. The EU makes itself a laughing stock with their moderation of the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue if it accepts that signed agreements are not worth the paper they are written on, just because a Kosovo government driven by rioting national extremists who think that fireworks and fights in the Kosovo assembly are a way to express their political ideas.

A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)

Kosovo, a territory whose population openly harasses others, threatens war whenever they don't get their way, rewrites history so horribly wrong that one doesn't know whether to laugh or get angry, routinely abuses and undermines international agreements, and whose leaders are war criminals working in plain sight have even less a place in Europe, or the civilized world in general. Albanians have been at the ass-end of modernization and development for more than a century and all you do is threaten and insult whenever the world doesn't hand you what you demand on a plate. I'm no sympathizer for Serbs or Serbia, but you people are mostly regarded as a chronic nuisance throughout Europe who have absolutely no right to decide who is part of Europe and who isn't.

The EU makes itself a laughing stock with their moderation of the Belgrade-Pristina dialogue if it accepts that signed agreements are not worth the paper they are written on, just because a Kosovo government driven by rioting national extremists who think that fireworks and fights in the Kosovo assembly are a way to express their political ideas.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 November 2015 17:23)
Kind of curious as to who will be laughing??? And who does it really matter too? Do you think that a single country is going to change their course of interaction with the EU over policies with Serbia and Kosovo? I mean really just because a Serb says that they will be a laughing stock, what does that mean. It is just like Serbs say that the bombing was illegal, so, the UN then put NATO in charge of security for Kosovo. Serbs say that Kosovo independence is illegal, but yet 110 countries disagree.
Are you really so ignorant that you think EU governments will hang their head for changing course with Serbia and Kosovo?

After all with all the blatant accusations coming from Serbia about violating their territorial integrity, when they sniff a dollar they crawl on their knees to the very source and tell them how much they love them.
There is no way they care if you are laughing at them, because they and the world will know you are crying on the inside.

Rocky -
Sometimes it's hard to understand where your frame of mind is...everyone knows, except you i think, that Pristina has NO say in what happens and who makes it happen. You cannot do ANYTHING without approval from your western masters who have NO love for you or your people. They will continue to use and abuse you because anything other would showcase their deciet. It's not your fault they're like that...it's your fault you ALLOW it to be like that. Same scenerio with former Jugoslavia...it was the people's fault for ALLOWING outside powers to interfere with their internal politics. Outside exploitation destroyed that country (dream), not Serbs, Croatians, Albanians, Slovenians or Bosnians. Yes, certain power hungry persons from ALL ethnic backgrounds certainly took advantage of the corruption and next thing you know, no more Jugoslavia. Albanians have a tremendous opportunity to sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that works for BOTH sides, something that will avoid our children fightingt again when the international community goes broke or has had enough of games in Kosovo...I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered. The ONLY thing that does NOT change...is GOD! Everything else has a time element to it and WILL change. Betting againt change?...leave that for the idiots!

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....
(Principa, Gracanica, Kosovo & Metohija, Serbia, 10 November 2015 17:24)
Or there could be a complete shutdown of the Brussels talks and no advancement of agreements for the next 2 years, and nothing that Serbia can do as when it comes to inside of Kosovo they are impotent.
There is also the possibility of submitting a referendum to the public and change the constitution removing the part of where minorities must support in order to enact new laws.
And remember that the UN mandated security forces are on the border to keep Serbia from doing anything.

The EU can do nothing beyond keep the Brussels talks going - else be caught by their own web of deceit!

The question is will local institutions representing Albanians in Serbia's UN recognised southern province now tow the EU line they are caught by?

Serbia always stated clearly and openly there can never be any recognition of an illegal US inspired state of "kosova". What's more EU technocrats (Germans especially) vocal stated that no such recognition implied or real is expected from Serbia. They themselves can do nothing beyond continue these talks with next stage enacting evermore Serbian institutions eg such as Serbian electricity distribution in Northern Kosovo - off course in time with market liberalisation (SAA conditions, now enacted across all of UN recognised Serbian sovereign territory) even Strpce residents could switch to this provider.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

think about it : “you think EU governments will hang their head for changing course with Serbia and Kosovo?”

In 1941 the situation was much worse yet it didn’t stop the Serbs of Mihailovic to rebel when everybody else sucked. Most likely your ancestors sucked too if you are not a Brit of course.


The untangler : “UN mandated security forces are on the border”

Time has changed my friend and neither NATO , nor UN, nor anybody else will move a finger. Not only because Russia has changed but also because everybody knows that you Shqiptars do not deserve it.


COMM. : “The EU makes itself a laughing stock”

EU is a castrated sheep whose ass is a free zone to pass to and fro. Didn’t you knew it ? This ass doesn’t even worth of the paper wasted to clean it. See how they voted over an issue evident for any Christian !

Rocky : Kosova should not enter into a negotiating process with Serbia again”

It is exactly what we are dreaming of. We need a time out to let the world change further. Then it will much easier to solve the issue. And something tells me we won’t even have to send Chechen battalions to neutralize the shaitans in KIM.


observer : “The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened”

You don’t know how scared we are now and I won’t fall asleep tonight. Because if “Europe will not tolerate” and launches WW III because of the small bandit nation Russia will have to turn Europe into the ashes.

The EU can do nothing beyond keep the Brussels talks going - else be caught by their own web of deceit!

The question is will local institutions representing Albanians in Serbia's UN recognised southern province now tow the EU line they are caught by?

Serbia always stated clearly and openly there can never be any recognition of an illegal US inspired state of "kosova". What's more EU technocrats (Germans especially) vocal stated that no such recognition implied or real is expected from Serbia. They themselves can do nothing beyond continue these talks with next stage enacting evermore Serbian institutions eg such as Serbian electricity distribution in Northern Kosovo - off course in time with market liberalisation (SAA conditions, now enacted across all of UN recognised Serbian sovereign territory) even Strpce residents could switch to this provider.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

(ari, 11 November 2015 05:02)

LOL now it’s Dardania, yesterday it was Illyria and tomorrow it will be Atlantis LOL. 70,000 years of Albanian/Illyrian occupation and not even a rock painting to their credit, but you may have built some WCs recently which you can try and register in UNESCO, LOL. You do keep me entertained with your claims, perhaps you guys also built the pyramids with the Croatians LOL.
Your time has run out and no more UNESCO.

Kosovo, a territory whose population openly harasses others, threatens war whenever they don't get their way, rewrites history so horribly wrong that one doesn't know whether to laugh or get angry, routinely abuses and undermines international agreements, and whose leaders are war criminals working in plain sight have even less a place in Europe, or the civilized world in general. Albanians have been at the ass-end of modernization and development for more than a century and all you do is threaten and insult whenever the world doesn't hand you what you demand on a plate. I'm no sympathizer for Serbs or Serbia, but you people are mostly regarded as a chronic nuisance throughout Europe
(Europe, 10 November 2015 17:43)

Thx mate for providing a clear example of how things like holocaust start: when a majority of people are brainwashed to think stuff of the type you wrote above. The best hope that an event like holocaust is not repeated is to have people like you write posts similar to the above to remind everybody where brainwashing can lead!

Albanians have a tremendous opportunity to sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that works for BOTH sides, something that will avoid our children fightingt again when the international community goes broke or has had enough of games in Kosovo...I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered. The ONLY thing that does NOT change...is GOD! Everything else has a time element to it and WILL change. Betting againt change?...leave that for the idiots!
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Watcher,
Obviously, you know nothing about the demographics of Kosova and Serbia. If you did, you would know that in 50 years Albanians from Kosova will outnumber Serbs of Serbia.

If you are betting on God to save the Serbs, I would then question your intelligence. If God did not save Serbia from NATO bombs and neither did Russia, what makes you think they will help you regain Kosova. It's time for you to grow up and stop believing in myths. I realize it is difficult for you since Serbs believe in so many myths, they can't distinguish between fact and fantasy. However, common sense and past experience should help clear up your confusion.

"And who does it really matter too? Do you think that a single country is going to change their course of interaction with the EU over policies with Serbia and Kosovo?"
(think about it, 10 November 2015 18:55)

I guess you misunderstood me. I meant that the EU should change the course of interaction with countries (or not-countries, whatever) like Kosovo which do long lasting negotiations and agreements under the supervision and moderation of the EU, and once agreements are reached, they are scrapped them later?


The same goes for Turkey: I cannot understand that the EU still negotiates about membership with a country that goes more and more to a dictatorship (similar to Russia) which suppresses and arrests journalists and opposition, which kills protesters and arrests policemen and judged which investigate in corruption and police violence.

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!

When the Texas govetnment fires all citizens of Mexican descent from government jobs, bans all citizens of Mexican Descent from all schools and Universities, then cracks down on anything that looks like a recognition of Mexican ancestry, such as wearing or displaying a Mexican flag or even the same colors, then MAYBE you have something to compare. Until then your analogy is faulty.
(Not really, 11 November 2015 20:12)

You better believe it, if Mexicans are stupid enough to fly the Mexican flag without the US flag, open up Mexican schools without parallel US school attendance, act of terrorism and killing Texas US Marshals, burning US churches down, desecrating US grave-sites, forcing US people out of houses, killing US residents livestock, demanding a Mexican autonomy within Texas. The Alamo was defended to the last man including Davey Crockett and every man died to defend freedom in Texas from Mexico invaders!! Long live the Alamo!!

Rocky: "The Republic Of Kosova should immediately annul & declare the agreement already signed void. Serbia has clearly shown she will do everything in her powers to stop Kosova's progress of joining international organizations, a democratic right!

1. Ummm, last I heard it was a democratic vote. It is not against the law to lobby people to vote a different way. It's like when you lobbied that Serbia be bombed :)

2. If you annul it, your SAA will be annuled because this was an EU sponsored agreement. You are being punished for being naughty little boys and going against the ZSO you formerly agreed to (it's just carefully masked and hidden so you can't figure it out). You are only allowed to do what "they" tell you to do.

Dardania(kosova)learned big lesson dont trust Serbia(Russia). They want negotiations only to look good with EU so they can get same help. Dardania (kosova) shuold change their name first to its original Dardania. Stop any negotiations with Serbia in anything close the borders complitly no tricks no trade nothing let them trade with Russia and Bosnja. Palestine and all those countries that supported them and as far as the unesco we will applie again and we will win it is over for Serbia in Kosova.

observer : “The price it will have to pay now will be very high. The EU will not tolerate what happened”

You don’t know how scared we are now and I won’t fall asleep tonight. Because if “Europe will not tolerate” and launches WW III because of the small bandit nation Russia will have to turn Europe into the ashes.
(rote, 10 November 2015 21:16)

You seem very certain of this. Your arrogance will be your downfall.

A country who's religious leaders openly call for starting a war twice within 1 week has no place in Europe.
(observer, 10 November 2015 16:43)
its about time and it will come the time all those religious leader who were involved on blessing and supporting the killers of innocent people during the war and also threating with war they will need one day to answer on front court of justice like everyone else,here a sentence from :Crisis on the Balkan July 04 1999 from NY times:
This is the(orthodox) church that 10 years ago welcomed Mr. Milosevic's violent nationalist land grab in the collapsing Yugoslavia, the church whose most senior bishops traveled in the war zones of Croatia and Bosnia, blessing Serbian forces shelling towns like Sarajevo."We blame Milosevic not for trying to defend the nation, but for failing",said Bishop Atanasije.
Despite its recent statements about Kosovo, Bishop Atanasije said the church is not rethinking the support that many of its senior priests, including the Patriarch himself, gave in blessing Bosnian Serbian forces whose leaders have now been indicted for war crimes.
One priest, Father Filaret Micovic (u can find him in Wikipedia) photographed in Bosnia atop a tank while brandishing a Kalashnikov rifle, was recently promoted to bishop.
"I don't see anything strange about the presence of a priest among his troops," Bishop Atanasije said.....
So Really! they are some of serbian spiritual leaders who talk in name of GOD? SRAMOTA..

(Serbian fantasies, 11 November 2015 23:50)

Yes, its all a fantasy and yet when asked what the Albos had in Kosovo that should go on the UNESCO register there was deadly silence. What after 80 million years of occupation and not even a cave painting or fountain? How is that possible since our little Albos claim to have been there since the dawn of time. It seems something is rotten in Denmark here.
The vast majority of Americans are stupid while the rest could not point out Europe on a map. If Texas is a problem why don’t we go to California where the majority is either Mexican and Latinos. According to your hypothesis (that’s theory if you don’t have a dictionary) the Mexicans/Latinos can take over California and Washington would not object, pigs’ arse they would not object.
The real question here is what value are the Albos to world society? Have they contributed to advancement of mankind? Well if trading in drugs is advancement then yes otherwise they are a waste of space.

Pristina has NO say in what happens and who makes it happen. You cannot do ANYTHING without approval from your western masters
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

well, the point is that it's not Serbia the decision-maker. Between Serbia and the western masters, Kosovo is very happy to be under the control of the latter.
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They will continue to use and abuse
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

That's possible, but for Kosovo that is far less worse than Serbia's use and abuse
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sit down with Belgrade and hammer out something that will avoid our children fightingt again
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Kosova has no intention to start any war. Do you or your children and for what purpose?!
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I'm not proposing go under Srb rule, but if you don't come to some kind of aagreement that legaly protects you from that, you eventually will be overpowered.
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Well, if Serbia could, it would have overpowered Kosovo long ago, regardless of legal agreements. Serbia has shown that the only thing that it respects is force, not legalisms. There is no point for Kosovo to give something to Serbia in exchange for some 'legal protection' from Serbia which is not worth the paper it's going to be written in!
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Betting againt change?
(Watcher, 10 November 2015 18:15)

Nope! It's just that Kosovo is familiar with that old saying: better an egg today than a hen tomorrow :)

Thanks Rocky - my sentiments exactly. enough of their BULL! My comment: 'You cannot negotiate with a bully - you can only use carrots and sticks. The Belgrade regime has already been granted way too many carrots. It is time to stop all negotiations with these bullies - it only encourages them. Suspend the negotiations NOW!'

When Croatia closed border with Serbia, Serbs called it " a racist move".

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!
(Vanessa Spencer, 11 November 2015 14:10)

When the Texas govetnment fires all citizens of Mexican descent from government jobs, bans all citizens of Mexican Descent from all schools and Universities, then cracks down on anything that looks like a recognition of Mexican ancestry, such as wearing or displaying a Mexican flag or even the same colors, then MAYBE you have something to compare. Until then your analogy is faulty.

Many Americans honestly do not know about or understand what is happening in Kosovo--especially that it was a NATO led land-grab. To say our leaders are misguided hypocrites would be an understatement. If what happened in Kosovo had happened in Texas, you can bet it would be a completely different outcome!
(Vanessa Spencer, 11 November 2015 14:10)
You are right, many do not know this, as a matter of fact no one in the country or world know this as it is Serbian fantasy and not reality. It was the necessary removal of savages from the land in order to save lives. It was to solve a problem that numerous attempts at the UN were unable to stop and further talk only meant more deaths. That was what Milosevic was hoping for that they could cleanse Kosovo of all Albanians then reach a peace deal with the west. He did not think they were serious.
The real truth that most Americans do not know though is that Serbs still have the agenda on the table and if the collar is ever removed from their necks they will revert back to the savagery that drove them before. Milosevic was not the problem he was merely a leader. It will be at least 2 generations before Serbia can be trusted again.

Have to love the Serbs trying to hypothesize on what would happen in Texas. it is a fantasy nothing else, and there is currently no danger nor the situations even close.