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Patriarch: Church blesses defensive wars

Serbian Orthodox Church (SPC) Patriarch Irinej said on Monday that Kosovo's membership in UNESCO would be a tragedy for culture worldwide.

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Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse,

Uhh, i forgot! But, do you know when the Turkish migration begin in Balkan countries?
After the fall of Balkan resistance. And one of the last countries who fall was ALBANIA, my dear Gotse - and the Turkish colonies, just for your own information were settled in large size just in Greece.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Gotse, is simple! All the people must go "even" to Wikipedia and see the history of Albania ( even so we know that isn't as trustable - but you must have an idea ).
Then you should learn something about the Greek writers ( for not talking to other writers ) what they write about their northern neighbors and how they are mixed to much with their northern neighbors. Do you know any other nation in northern Greece, which aren't Albanians?

That Albanians are native to those lands is a proven fact, for the same reason that is a proven fact that Serbs aren't, no?? Is all documented!! Like it or NOT!
Turko - Albanian wars are very well documented, as much as Serbian one. So, thank you but this hypothesis fall down.
Albanian don't share nothing with Turkic languages and i'm not sure about the slavic language if have similarity with it, in fact.
You must like to believe what you want, you must even be a historian and like to write that Albanians aren't native in Balkan but you should prove it.

So try to find those proves and don’t tell me “stories” – because is funny but while you lose your time a find a hundreds of proofs that Serbs are not native in balkan. Funny no??

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

No world historian has ever writen that albanians are native to balkans.But quite few hisorians-even Turkish-have claimed thatvalbanians are half turks and came to the balkans cos of turkish migrations.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse

~ 7 million Albanians live all around the world and now you are claiming that 5 live just in Turkey?? Wake up!
I have read enough of it but as i see you did not read it.
So regarding to you being muslim - is the same as being Turk?
With your logic all the Orthodox. country like Greece, Bulgaria,etc. should be Russians?
Find your root man ?

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

Joni

pre 8 godina

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.
(gotsefromohrid, 9 November 2015 15:25)

Finally you find your roots Gotse!

Azerbaijani is a is a Turkic - Slavic - Iranian language!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! blessing defensive wars (!) dear oh dear. you sound just like a mad mullah.
(Nikolle, 9 November 2015 13:19)
==============================
When something is being taken away from us by force I know you would rather he tells us to just lie down and die. I think God would not want that either.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Serbian Osama Bin-Irinej LadinOVIC threaten peace and stability

This worm threatens NATO and all Freedom Loving people.
(Azir, 9 November 2015 17:08
================================
How is saying that he will defend what is Serbia a threat? If you don't attack, there won't be a defence. Do you want us to lie down and die while you rob us blind? If we dare try to defend what is ours you accuse us of threatening peace. You people are just vile.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The man speaks of conscience, the key to morality. A good conscience, born of integrity, honesty and experience has the responsibility to meet violent aggression with violence. This is why people lie about being victimized, they use at as a way to falsely justify violence against the innocent. And this is how Serbia is victimized. By peoples lying about being victimized in order to justify violence against the Serbs. The Serbs are innocent and even a global lynch mob cannot change the facts of history.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

UnikKatil

pre 8 godina

"With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history."

Hey gotse from ohrid, tell me something. How can someone from FYROM know anything about history and culture? You come from a country formed by accident 25 years ago, with no national identity and with a name that is not related to you by any means? And you come here and talk about history. Hypocrisy at its best.
If I were you id try friendship and good relations with Albanians, and you know why? Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Hell's representative on Earth continues instigating aggression,death and destruction instead of promoting harmony ,reconciliation and peace like normal church leaders do.

War is possible if enough serb fanatics follow his suicidial doomsday evilness.

NATO must monitor and make space for War Mongers in The Hague where evil resides.

Hate Speach must never be tolerated and EU and US need to imposes sanctions on such filth.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Unikkatil

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.
(UnikKatil, 9 November 2015 15:01)

Sad, but maybe true. But didn't you miss an 'i' in your sentence? I guess you wanted to write 'ruin the country' (i.e. making the place a corrupt pit and poorhouse in Europe), just like you have been successful with Albanian and Kosovo*

oryouforgotten

pre 8 godina

You blessed gangsters like Arkan. It says a lot about Serbia as a country, that a person who was wanted in several European countries for armed robberies and murders is a national hero there. I'm surprised you haven't canonized Arkan.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The church has always blessed war.... You Islamist have never read the holy bible...

Read the Old Testament... King David, king Saul, king Solomon, king hezakiah, Gideon were all blessed by God to go to war against their enemies...

The bible is filled with stories about war and how God blessed wars against evil people and nations...

But most jihadists never read the holy bible to they?

What does the world think, that the Serbs are just going to sit their twiddling their thumbs while our cultural and historical sites are stolen from us by jihadists... No, we defend ourselves, we fight wars in defence of ourselves and our history and culture... Just like any nation in the United Nations would do...

Would Russia allow america to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Would China allow Japan to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Then why should Serbia allow Albanians to control its culture and history?

Please read the holy bible and become educated on wars which the church allows... The bible is filled with wars which God has allowed... This is not something new!

The jihadist Albanians are SHOCKED to hear a church leader speak about war, but jihadist albanians being jihadist Albanians have never in their life read the BIBLE....

To all albanians, I will give you a free bible lesson if you wish, or just attend any church and they will give you a free bible and you will understand the christian faith more clearly...

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"The Church blesses defensive wars. War is evil, but when somebody is taking something away, we must defend ourselves," the patriarch said, adding that "if something is being taken away" and cannot be defended otherwise, "what other choice is there but to defend ourselves by force."

Is that the same guy speaking that not so long ago blessed Serbian tanks in Belgrade before they went to the oh-so defensive war in Bosnia and Croatia?

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Why can't he be more like Pope Francis admit where the church is wrong, they are people at the end not holy men!!!

Sorry but church people should not bless war on innocence!!!

[http://www.theguardian.com/law/gallery/2011/jul/20/war-crimes-bosnia-and-herzegovina]

peace be on you, may devil find out half hour after you make it to heaven so at least what will you miss.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The church has always blessed war.... You Islamist have never read the holy bible...

Read the Old Testament... King David, king Saul, king Solomon, king hezakiah, Gideon were all blessed by God to go to war against their enemies...

The bible is filled with stories about war and how God blessed wars against evil people and nations...

But most jihadists never read the holy bible to they?

What does the world think, that the Serbs are just going to sit their twiddling their thumbs while our cultural and historical sites are stolen from us by jihadists... No, we defend ourselves, we fight wars in defence of ourselves and our history and culture... Just like any nation in the United Nations would do...

Would Russia allow america to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Would China allow Japan to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Then why should Serbia allow Albanians to control its culture and history?

Please read the holy bible and become educated on wars which the church allows... The bible is filled with wars which God has allowed... This is not something new!

The jihadist Albanians are SHOCKED to hear a church leader speak about war, but jihadist albanians being jihadist Albanians have never in their life read the BIBLE....

To all albanians, I will give you a free bible lesson if you wish, or just attend any church and they will give you a free bible and you will understand the christian faith more clearly...

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"The Church blesses defensive wars. War is evil, but when somebody is taking something away, we must defend ourselves," the patriarch said, adding that "if something is being taken away" and cannot be defended otherwise, "what other choice is there but to defend ourselves by force."

Is that the same guy speaking that not so long ago blessed Serbian tanks in Belgrade before they went to the oh-so defensive war in Bosnia and Croatia?

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Unikkatil

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Why can't he be more like Pope Francis admit where the church is wrong, they are people at the end not holy men!!!

Sorry but church people should not bless war on innocence!!!

[http://www.theguardian.com/law/gallery/2011/jul/20/war-crimes-bosnia-and-herzegovina]

peace be on you, may devil find out half hour after you make it to heaven so at least what will you miss.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

oryouforgotten

pre 8 godina

You blessed gangsters like Arkan. It says a lot about Serbia as a country, that a person who was wanted in several European countries for armed robberies and murders is a national hero there. I'm surprised you haven't canonized Arkan.

UnikKatil

pre 8 godina

"With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history."

Hey gotse from ohrid, tell me something. How can someone from FYROM know anything about history and culture? You come from a country formed by accident 25 years ago, with no national identity and with a name that is not related to you by any means? And you come here and talk about history. Hypocrisy at its best.
If I were you id try friendship and good relations with Albanians, and you know why? Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse

~ 7 million Albanians live all around the world and now you are claiming that 5 live just in Turkey?? Wake up!
I have read enough of it but as i see you did not read it.
So regarding to you being muslim - is the same as being Turk?
With your logic all the Orthodox. country like Greece, Bulgaria,etc. should be Russians?
Find your root man ?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Hell's representative on Earth continues instigating aggression,death and destruction instead of promoting harmony ,reconciliation and peace like normal church leaders do.

War is possible if enough serb fanatics follow his suicidial doomsday evilness.

NATO must monitor and make space for War Mongers in The Hague where evil resides.

Hate Speach must never be tolerated and EU and US need to imposes sanctions on such filth.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! blessing defensive wars (!) dear oh dear. you sound just like a mad mullah.
(Nikolle, 9 November 2015 13:19)
==============================
When something is being taken away from us by force I know you would rather he tells us to just lie down and die. I think God would not want that either.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Serbian Osama Bin-Irinej LadinOVIC threaten peace and stability

This worm threatens NATO and all Freedom Loving people.
(Azir, 9 November 2015 17:08
================================
How is saying that he will defend what is Serbia a threat? If you don't attack, there won't be a defence. Do you want us to lie down and die while you rob us blind? If we dare try to defend what is ours you accuse us of threatening peace. You people are just vile.

Joni

pre 8 godina

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.
(gotsefromohrid, 9 November 2015 15:25)

Finally you find your roots Gotse!

Azerbaijani is a is a Turkic - Slavic - Iranian language!

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

No world historian has ever writen that albanians are native to balkans.But quite few hisorians-even Turkish-have claimed thatvalbanians are half turks and came to the balkans cos of turkish migrations.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Gotse, is simple! All the people must go "even" to Wikipedia and see the history of Albania ( even so we know that isn't as trustable - but you must have an idea ).
Then you should learn something about the Greek writers ( for not talking to other writers ) what they write about their northern neighbors and how they are mixed to much with their northern neighbors. Do you know any other nation in northern Greece, which aren't Albanians?

That Albanians are native to those lands is a proven fact, for the same reason that is a proven fact that Serbs aren't, no?? Is all documented!! Like it or NOT!
Turko - Albanian wars are very well documented, as much as Serbian one. So, thank you but this hypothesis fall down.
Albanian don't share nothing with Turkic languages and i'm not sure about the slavic language if have similarity with it, in fact.
You must like to believe what you want, you must even be a historian and like to write that Albanians aren't native in Balkan but you should prove it.

So try to find those proves and don’t tell me “stories” – because is funny but while you lose your time a find a hundreds of proofs that Serbs are not native in balkan. Funny no??

Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse,

Uhh, i forgot! But, do you know when the Turkish migration begin in Balkan countries?
After the fall of Balkan resistance. And one of the last countries who fall was ALBANIA, my dear Gotse - and the Turkish colonies, just for your own information were settled in large size just in Greece.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The man speaks of conscience, the key to morality. A good conscience, born of integrity, honesty and experience has the responsibility to meet violent aggression with violence. This is why people lie about being victimized, they use at as a way to falsely justify violence against the innocent. And this is how Serbia is victimized. By peoples lying about being victimized in order to justify violence against the Serbs. The Serbs are innocent and even a global lynch mob cannot change the facts of history.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.
(UnikKatil, 9 November 2015 15:01)

Sad, but maybe true. But didn't you miss an 'i' in your sentence? I guess you wanted to write 'ruin the country' (i.e. making the place a corrupt pit and poorhouse in Europe), just like you have been successful with Albanian and Kosovo*

Questioner

pre 8 godina

"The Church blesses defensive wars. War is evil, but when somebody is taking something away, we must defend ourselves," the patriarch said, adding that "if something is being taken away" and cannot be defended otherwise, "what other choice is there but to defend ourselves by force."

Is that the same guy speaking that not so long ago blessed Serbian tanks in Belgrade before they went to the oh-so defensive war in Bosnia and Croatia?

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

oryouforgotten

pre 8 godina

You blessed gangsters like Arkan. It says a lot about Serbia as a country, that a person who was wanted in several European countries for armed robberies and murders is a national hero there. I'm surprised you haven't canonized Arkan.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Hell's representative on Earth continues instigating aggression,death and destruction instead of promoting harmony ,reconciliation and peace like normal church leaders do.

War is possible if enough serb fanatics follow his suicidial doomsday evilness.

NATO must monitor and make space for War Mongers in The Hague where evil resides.

Hate Speach must never be tolerated and EU and US need to imposes sanctions on such filth.

UnikKatil

pre 8 godina

"With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history."

Hey gotse from ohrid, tell me something. How can someone from FYROM know anything about history and culture? You come from a country formed by accident 25 years ago, with no national identity and with a name that is not related to you by any means? And you come here and talk about history. Hypocrisy at its best.
If I were you id try friendship and good relations with Albanians, and you know why? Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

Why can't he be more like Pope Francis admit where the church is wrong, they are people at the end not holy men!!!

Sorry but church people should not bless war on innocence!!!

[http://www.theguardian.com/law/gallery/2011/jul/20/war-crimes-bosnia-and-herzegovina]

peace be on you, may devil find out half hour after you make it to heaven so at least what will you miss.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 8 godina

The church has always blessed war.... You Islamist have never read the holy bible...

Read the Old Testament... King David, king Saul, king Solomon, king hezakiah, Gideon were all blessed by God to go to war against their enemies...

The bible is filled with stories about war and how God blessed wars against evil people and nations...

But most jihadists never read the holy bible to they?

What does the world think, that the Serbs are just going to sit their twiddling their thumbs while our cultural and historical sites are stolen from us by jihadists... No, we defend ourselves, we fight wars in defence of ourselves and our history and culture... Just like any nation in the United Nations would do...

Would Russia allow america to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Would China allow Japan to control its culture and history, or vis versa...
Then why should Serbia allow Albanians to control its culture and history?

Please read the holy bible and become educated on wars which the church allows... The bible is filled with wars which God has allowed... This is not something new!

The jihadist Albanians are SHOCKED to hear a church leader speak about war, but jihadist albanians being jihadist Albanians have never in their life read the BIBLE....

To all albanians, I will give you a free bible lesson if you wish, or just attend any church and they will give you a free bible and you will understand the christian faith more clearly...

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Unikkatil

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Because they with surpass your likes demographically very soon and run the country. I know deep down you also see that coming.
(UnikKatil, 9 November 2015 15:01)

Sad, but maybe true. But didn't you miss an 'i' in your sentence? I guess you wanted to write 'ruin the country' (i.e. making the place a corrupt pit and poorhouse in Europe), just like you have been successful with Albanian and Kosovo*

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Serbian Osama Bin-Irinej LadinOVIC threaten peace and stability

This worm threatens NATO and all Freedom Loving people.
(Azir, 9 November 2015 17:08
================================
How is saying that he will defend what is Serbia a threat? If you don't attack, there won't be a defence. Do you want us to lie down and die while you rob us blind? If we dare try to defend what is ours you accuse us of threatening peace. You people are just vile.

Joni

pre 8 godina

It's not my history in question here but yours and this is why unesco has given you the middle finger cos you ajerbajani immigrants have no history in the balkans.The land you walk is Serbian let alone the monuments.
(gotsefromohrid, 9 November 2015 15:25)

Finally you find your roots Gotse!

Azerbaijani is a is a Turkic - Slavic - Iranian language!

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

With respect blessed man the albanians don't know what culture means cos they've got no history.No wonder all churches and other monuments are Serbian.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! blessing defensive wars (!) dear oh dear. you sound just like a mad mullah.
(Nikolle, 9 November 2015 13:19)
==============================
When something is being taken away from us by force I know you would rather he tells us to just lie down and die. I think God would not want that either.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse

~ 7 million Albanians live all around the world and now you are claiming that 5 live just in Turkey?? Wake up!
I have read enough of it but as i see you did not read it.
So regarding to you being muslim - is the same as being Turk?
With your logic all the Orthodox. country like Greece, Bulgaria,etc. should be Russians?
Find your root man ?

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

There're 5million albanians in turkey since the days of the ottoman empire.There is a good book writen by Chris deliso called the new balkans caliphate in which he alleges that both albania and kosovo are turkish vassals which will be used by the turks to create a caliphate.Read the book and you'll see where albanians came from.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Gotse, is simple! All the people must go "even" to Wikipedia and see the history of Albania ( even so we know that isn't as trustable - but you must have an idea ).
Then you should learn something about the Greek writers ( for not talking to other writers ) what they write about their northern neighbors and how they are mixed to much with their northern neighbors. Do you know any other nation in northern Greece, which aren't Albanians?

That Albanians are native to those lands is a proven fact, for the same reason that is a proven fact that Serbs aren't, no?? Is all documented!! Like it or NOT!
Turko - Albanian wars are very well documented, as much as Serbian one. So, thank you but this hypothesis fall down.
Albanian don't share nothing with Turkic languages and i'm not sure about the slavic language if have similarity with it, in fact.
You must like to believe what you want, you must even be a historian and like to write that Albanians aren't native in Balkan but you should prove it.

So try to find those proves and don’t tell me “stories” – because is funny but while you lose your time a find a hundreds of proofs that Serbs are not native in balkan. Funny no??

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Joni

No world historian has ever writen that albanians are native to balkans.But quite few hisorians-even Turkish-have claimed thatvalbanians are half turks and came to the balkans cos of turkish migrations.

Joni

pre 8 godina

@ Gotse,

Uhh, i forgot! But, do you know when the Turkish migration begin in Balkan countries?
After the fall of Balkan resistance. And one of the last countries who fall was ALBANIA, my dear Gotse - and the Turkish colonies, just for your own information were settled in large size just in Greece.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The man speaks of conscience, the key to morality. A good conscience, born of integrity, honesty and experience has the responsibility to meet violent aggression with violence. This is why people lie about being victimized, they use at as a way to falsely justify violence against the innocent. And this is how Serbia is victimized. By peoples lying about being victimized in order to justify violence against the Serbs. The Serbs are innocent and even a global lynch mob cannot change the facts of history.